February 14, 2014 
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February 14, 2014 [00:01:27] *** poxip has quit IRC[00:02:02] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[00:02:33] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[00:03:33] *** Turingi has quit IRC[00:05:40] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[00:09:43] *** jua_ has quit IRC[00:15:17] *** Negr0_ has quit IRC[00:17:41] *** Not-003 has joined #haiku[00:17:41] <Not-003> [haikuports] scottmc pushed 4 commits to master [+23/-5/±10] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[00:17:44] <Not-003> [haikuports] humdinger 75ab1b9 - Updated youtube_dl version to 2014.01.23[00:17:47] <Not-003> [haikuports] humdinger 8b75cbb - Merged haikuports/haikuports into master[00:17:50] <Not-003> [haikuports] humdinger db7dc72 - Updated youtube-dl to newest version.[00:17:53] <Not-003> [haikuports] scottmc d09519c - Merged in humdinger/haikuports (pull request #149) Update youtube-dl recipe.[00:18:53] <HaikuUser> haiku os need crypto wallet for btc, ltc....[00:20:05] <gordonjcp> HaikuUser: Patches Are Welcome[00:20:31] <gordonjcp> HaikuUser: I don't really know how those work, have you tried building one under Haiku?[00:24:13] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[00:27:07] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[00:35:06] *** Negr0_ has joined #haiku[00:40:13] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[00:42:25] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[00:43:52] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[00:53:34] *** iMe_away is now known as iMe[01:01:15] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[01:02:35] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[01:04:46] *** puckipedia|away has quit IRC[01:20:22] *** luroh has quit IRC[01:24:39] <irker-912> haiku.master: js * hrev46870 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=be3f404+%5E3e2e0e6[01:24:39] <irker-912> be3f404: Terminal: Add option to use bright instead of bold text[01:24:40] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[01:27:25] <irker-912> haiku.master: js * hrev46871 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=97ab2b9+%5Ebe3f404[01:27:25] <irker-912> 97ab2b9: AboutSystem: Add myself to current maintainers[01:54:42] *** 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#haiku[18:22:06] <Anarchos> what is the haiku equivalent of the «control buffer» of a linux «sk_buff» ? Is it «ancillary data » ?[18:23:18] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[18:31:18] <Anarchos> hey PulkoMandy, do you know what is the haiku equivalent of the «control buffer» of a linux «sk_buff» ? Is it «ancillary data » ?[18:31:31] <PulkoMandy> I do't know[18:32:16] <Anarchos> ok[18:36:04] <mmu_man> is there any mention of OOB ?[18:36:07] <mmu_man> Out of band data[18:36:19] <mmu_man> I'm not entirely sure those are exactly the same[18:37:00] *** stippi has quit IRC[18:37:19] <Anarchos> mmu_man i mentioned a "sk_buff->cb " line i saw in a linux driver[18:51:27] *** freedomrun has quit IRC[18:57:08] <Anarchos> mmu_man do you want a link to the linux documenation ?[19:11:11] *** tgkokk has joined #haiku[19:12:21] *** tqh has joined #haiku[19:12:57] *** Barrett has quit IRC[19:16:38] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[19:21:24] <waddlesplash> ooh, Plan 9 sources made public under GPL2! https://github.com/brho/plan9[19:21:56] <PulkoMandy> they weren't ?[19:22:50] <waddlesplash> oh, my bad[19:22:57] <waddlesplash> they were under a different license[19:23:04] <waddlesplash> they just got relicensed under GPL2 tho[19:26:14] <tidux> it was an odd license that wasn't clear on how much freedom the users had to mess with it[19:26:20] <tidux> everyone understands GPL2 though[19:26:21] <gordonjcp> yup[19:26:32] <tidux> imagine the butthurt if it had been GPL3[19:26:33] <gordonjcp> the plan 9 filesystem stuff might be nice to get going[19:26:36] <tidux> or AGPLv3+[19:26:46] <gordonjcp> I love the idea of it gradually moving older and older stuff to slower media, transparently[19:27:02] <gordonjcp> that said, that's how a lot of really big tape libraries work[19:27:06] <gordonjcp> the one at CERN is like that[19:27:32] <gordonjcp> want a file? "oh it's on X tape, I'll send the robot for it... mount it... copy it across to nearline... there"[19:27:41] <gordonjcp> better hope your app has nice long timeouts though[19:29:54] *** FreeFull has joined #haiku[19:30:57] <Anarchos> gordonjcp same for the mainframe of bank ; i had to wait minutes for my data to appear :)[19:31:06] <gordonjcp> Anarchos: yup[19:31:20] <gordonjcp> oh that's a point, I should try and find some LTO3 tapes to try out this drive[19:38:54] *** Negr0_ has joined #haiku[19:43:01] <puckipedia> LTO-3? I've only got one LTO-2 tape...[19:43:07] <puckipedia> (With fitting drive, of course)[19:45:18] <gordonjcp> I've got an LTO-2 external drive, and I picked up on old Proliant ML370 with an LTO-3 the other day[19:45:51] <puckipedia> Just use a better compression algorithm ;)[19:46:01] <puckipedia> 200GB native for LTO-2[19:47:34] <puckipedia> Still, that's a lot for a thing the size of a high diskette / floppy[19:49:15] <gordonjcp> ye[19:49:26] * gordonjcp is currently hacking on 440kB floppies[19:49:28] <puckipedia> Although it is very very slow[19:49:41] <gordonjcp> actually, how does Haiku deal with talking to the floppy controller?[19:50:15] <puckipedia> You reminded me, I should hack some way to read this 720kb floppy while the bios has no choice... Probably going to create a linux cd[19:50:26] <puckipedia> I think Haiku doesn't have floppy support...[19:50:42] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[19:51:12] <puckipedia> Well, nvm[19:51:24] <puckipedia> https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/79a2f0c70c6a13c5454b9b7699c14559f5739396/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/disk/floppy/pc_floppy/floppy.c[19:51:44] <puckipedia> It supports 1.44M and 720K[19:52:20] <gordonjcp> okay, so I need to look at how to poke the FDC directly[19:52:36] <gordonjcp> there's no interface like the FDRAWCMD ioctl?[19:54:38] <puckipedia> Not quite, but you can change the driver: https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/79a2f0c70c6a13c5454b9b7699c14559f5739396/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/disk/floppy/pc_floppy/floppy_ctrl.c[19:55:03] <puckipedia> See send_command(floppy_t *flp, const uint8 *data, int len), I guess[19:55:12] <gordonjcp> seems reasonable[19:55:29] <gordonjcp> I'll just pile mad-ass niche stuff on mad-ass niche stuff ;-)[19:56:06] <puckipedia> TBH, you should be able to hack flo_write(floppy_cookie *cookie, off_t position, const void *data, size_t *numbytes) to just pass it into send_command[19:56:36] <puckipedia> also, read_result[19:57:14] <gordonjcp> I need to read single-sized mixed-sector-size floppies, and write them[19:57:30] <gordonjcp> five sectors of 1024 bytes followed by one sector of 512 bytes[19:57:37] <gordonjcp> ... yes, really[19:57:43] <puckipedia> What system is that?[19:57:48] <gordonjcp> Ensoniq Mirage[19:58:08] <puckipedia> Lol, it's keyboard[19:58:11] <puckipedia> it's a*[19:58:13] <gordonjcp> yup[19:58:21] <gordonjcp> there are keyboard and rack versions[19:58:29] <puckipedia> lol[19:58:55] <puckipedia> I know someone with a organ, which can save files (in a proprietary file format) onto a floppy, luckily just ms-dos format[19:59:01] <gordonjcp> 128K of sample RAM, 16K of OS RAM, 6809, bit of ROM sufficient to boot from, and a bunch of other stuff[19:59:13] <gordonjcp> I have Forth running on it[19:59:26] <puckipedia> lol, "My keyboard runs Forth"[19:59:35] <puckipedia> Can you run SMB 1 on it?[19:59:49] <puckipedia> You have the audio capabilities[20:00:00] <gordonjcp> no graphics though[20:00:01] <gordonjcp> hm[20:00:53] <gordonjcp> wonder if I can graft on something like a NES PPU[20:00:57] <puckipedia> Although, if you can hack the app yourself, you might be able to hack the sector size based on how much bytes you read[20:01:10] *** wadlspl has joined #haiku[20:01:22] <puckipedia> (read 1024 bytes, get a 1024 bytes sector, read 512bytes, get a 512 bytes sector)[20:01:29] <gordonjcp> yup[20:01:40] <gordonjcp> you do need to tell the FDC what to expect to read though[20:01:59] <puckipedia> "I expect to read 1024 bytes"[20:02:15] <gordonjcp> right, but if it's a 512 byte sector it will error out[20:03:02] *** fhein has joined #haiku[20:03:02] <puckipedia> Try reading the sectors as 1024 bytes, then read them as 512, combine the result[20:03:20] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[20:03:24] <gordonjcp> well, it's not that complicated really[20:03:35] <gordonjcp> I know that sectors 0-4 are 1024 bytes and sector 5 is 512 bytes[20:03:37] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[20:03:39] <puckipedia> Can you read 1024 byte sectors as 2 512 byte sectors?[20:03:47] <gordonjcp> I just need to tell the fdc driver to do what it's told[20:04:11] <puckipedia> You can read it by just pushing bytes into the fdc?[20:04:16] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[20:04:22] *** wadlspl is now known as waddlesplash[20:04:31] <gordonjcp> puckipedia: pretty much, that's what sendcommand looks like it does[20:04:33] *** wadlspl has joined #haiku[20:04:42] <puckipedia> I might be able to hack something up[20:05:27] <puckipedia> Give me a second[20:08:33] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[20:09:28] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[20:09:28] <Anarchos> who is a bit used to the linux kernel networking code ?[20:11:05] <puckipedia> gordonjcp: Are you used to compiling Haiku from scratch?[20:11:53] <mmu_man> js: you still really expect Microsoft to do anything right?[20:12:34] <tidux> I have a question about the build system[20:12:53] <tidux> how do I mark a file as do-not-overwrite in git, while following the rest of the tree from master?[20:14:24] <puckipedia> gordonjcp: replace /src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/disk/floppy/pc_floppy/floppy.c with http://pastebin.com/Vew2ZAyp[20:14:59] <gordonjcp> puckipedia: I will later on, once I've eaten ;-)[20:15:01] <gordonjcp> thanks[20:15:04] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[20:15:54] <puckipedia> (Explanation: Just write to the file /dev/disk/fdc/raw to write a command, read to read the result from the fdc)[20:16:09] <gordonjcp> sweet[20:16:36] <gordonjcp> actually[20:16:39] <gordonjcp> let me just quickly reinstall[20:16:49] <puckipedia> At least, follow send_command and read_result in floppy_ctrl.c[20:16:58] <puckipedia> Didn't test, actually, I presume it will work[20:16:59] <gordonjcp> yup, I see how that works, kind of[20:21:50] *** bedouin has quit IRC[20:22:15] <puckipedia> The send_command waits for the fdc, then writes a byte of data into register 5[20:22:36] <puckipedia> read_result does the opposite[20:22:59] *** bigbluehat has quit IRC[20:24:08] *** bedouin has joined #haiku[20:26:17] *** bigbluehat has joined #haiku[20:26:47] <waddlesplash> Anarchos: why do you ask?[20:28:37] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[20:32:25] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[20:32:34] *** kyzh has quit IRC[20:33:11] *** comrad has joined #haiku[20:33:12] *** comrad has joined #haiku[20:33:45] *** kyzh has joined #haiku[20:35:08] *** umccullough has joined #haiku[20:35:58] <gordonjcp> hm[20:36:10] <puckipedia> hm?[20:36:33] <gordonjcp> I'm just trying to work out what that code does[20:36:49] <puckipedia> It defines a device[20:37:17] <puckipedia> The cnages I made were in top, where "disk/fdc/raw" is, and in flp_read and flp_write[20:37:45] <puckipedia> Also, in flp_$somewhere_in_the_bottom_of_the_file, I modified it so nothing will interrupt it[20:38:42] <gordonjcp> yes, I think what I do now is treat that the same as I would the FDRAWCMD ioctl()[20:39:17] <puckipedia> Maybe, just write the data and it will write it into the register, byte by byte[20:39:19] <gordonjcp> although I'm not sure how I set flags[20:39:27] <puckipedia> Set flags?[20:39:37] <puckipedia> If you do that with a fdc command, just write that command[20:39:44] *** luroh has joined #haiku[20:40:09] <Anarchos> re[20:49:16] *** wadlspl has quit IRC[20:49:52] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[20:50:13] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[20:50:37] <Dane_> 127 users, most I've ever seen in here I think![20:51:00] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[20:51:06] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[20:51:10] <Dane_> I'm going to toss this out and hopefully somebody will take me up on it. I'm getting an intemittant KDL on bootup and am offering a reward to resolve it.[20:51:18] <Dane_> I have KDL photos[20:51:34] <Dane_> It only happens right as the desktop first appears, when it happens at all.[20:51:47] <Dane_> And I'm using HREV 46104[20:52:10] <Dane_> So if anybody's interested in a hundred bucks and can solve this for me, it's yours.[20:52:40] <tidux> upgrade to a newer nightly and give me $10[20:52:43] <tidux> *$100[20:52:48] <Dane_> :-)[20:53:17] <Dane_> 46104 is kind of the "glass ceiling" for us...we can't go to pkg mgt version until some other things happen in it.[20:53:18] <umccullough> Dane_, did you already open a ticket?[20:53:27] <Dane_> umccullough I don't think so, not for this.[20:53:45] <umccullough> i once sponsored a ticket for $25 if someone fixed it, and they did, so I sent them the money :D[20:54:08] <Dane_> umccullough What did it turn out to be?[20:54:18] <umccullough> it was actually ticket #5 i think...[20:54:48] <umccullough> yep: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/5[20:54:52] <Dane_> looking[20:55:26] *** jjholt has joined #haiku[20:55:26] <umccullough> anyhow, i expected more people to pitch in, but they didn't :([20:55:44] <umccullough> although, humdinger also sent mmlr some money[20:55:45] <Dane_> I'm still deciphering what the conclusion was[20:56:03] <umccullough> it was a missing feature, mmlr finished it[20:56:18] <gordonjcp> Dane_: can you tie the KDLs to anything specific?[20:56:19] <umccullough> it was open for ~8 years ;)[20:56:35] <Dane_> gordonjcp There is a mention of IRC panic I thinik, in the KDL[20:56:53] <Dane_> umccullough Any idea what version of Haiku the fix appeared in?[20:56:56] <gordonjcp> can you post a screenshot, or serial dump?[20:57:02] <Dane_> sure can...gimme a sec...[20:57:06] <Dane_> or two.. :-)[20:57:20] <umccullough> Dane_, this was a while back[20:57:26] <umccullough> totally unrelated to what you are experiencing anyway[20:57:42] <umccullough> i just wanted to point out that offering $ in a ticket is an interesting option :)[20:58:42] <Dane_> umccullough oic, ok good point[20:58:48] <Dane_> gordonjcp Still getting it[20:59:08] <puckipedia> Dane_: Tried running a newer nightly, and telling if the problem has been fixed? It might help[21:00:39] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[21:01:01] <jjholt> well that was worth a try, adding vid and pid for the ISDv4 wacom tablet to the driver[21:03:46] <Dane_> puckipedia Good suggestion...I'll try that.[21:04:04] <puckipedia> If that works, go back 100 hrevs, or so[21:04:11] <puckipedia> or even 1000[21:04:28] <puckipedia> It might be that the fix needed is before pm[21:04:48] <Dane_> puckipedia I have the last version prior to pm, that's what I'm using presently.[21:04:58] <Dane_> So I assume I'd have to swim into packageland[21:05:40] <puckipedia> Ah[21:05:48] <tidux> non-packagemanaged Haiku is a dead end, though[21:05:51] <puckipedia> Is there a reason you can't use pm[21:05:53] <puckipedia> ?[21:06:46] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[21:08:22] <jjholt> I can say it does work if I modify usb_hid to not blacklist wacom devices and don't build the wacom driver but I have no wat to click but pointer does move[21:09:19] <Dane_> puckipedia Sorry, switching back and forth among screens. I think there were a couple development impedements...I'd have to check with my main guru dude.[21:09:25] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[21:14:21] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[21:16:18] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[21:16:59] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[21:17:29] <Dane_> gordonjcp Still there?[21:17:36] <Dane_> http://www.tunetrackersystems.com/kdl.jpg[21:18:20] <Not-003> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[21:18:23] <Not-003> [haikuports] korli 69e9e74 - freetype: add bzip2 dependency[21:22:37] <umccullough> may be scheduler related[21:22:46] <umccullough> pdziepak?[21:23:03] <gordonjcp> Dane_: ooooh, that's your lot?[21:23:14] <gordonjcp> Dane_: are you using MIDI interfaces?[21:23:41] <gordonjcp> actually disregard, that's moaning about something to do with disks[21:23:54] *** tgkokk has quit IRC[21:24:29] <umccullough> yeah, looks like ahci controller trying to read and pagefaulted?[21:25:08] <gordonjcp> Dane_: in the BIOS do you have any other SATA emulation modes?[21:25:10] <umccullough> but the thread_get_io_priority() is suspicious[21:25:23] <Dane_> re[21:25:26] <Dane_> reading the above...[21:25:36] <Dane_> btw, better image up there now...[21:25:46] <umccullough> actually is it trying to read a CD?[21:25:51] <Dane_> http://www.tunetrackersystems.com/kdl.jpg[21:25:58] <gordonjcp> fwiw I can make Haiku KDL on boot every single time, by having a USB MIDI interface plugged in with some traffic running ;-)[21:26:32] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[21:26:33] <Dane_> gordonjcp not using midi interface as far as I know, unless it's part of the chipset on the motherboard[21:26:46] <Dane_> hey, let me try the sata emulation thing though...brb[21:26:58] <gordonjcp> Dane_: it's not a cure but it might provide some clues[21:28:40] <tidux> gordonjcp: does this happen when you're extracting a huge archive, or recursively deleting a massive folder?[21:28:58] <tidux> because I've seen similar things all the way back to R1A4.0[21:29:05] <gordonjcp> tidux: it's Dane_'s KDL, not mine[21:29:22] <tidux> ah[21:32:14] <pdziepak> umccullough: i'm not sure, it is, indeed, quite near my changes but i don't see anything obviously wrong in a diff[21:32:21] <pdziepak> Dane_: which hrev is it?[21:32:44] <Dane_> pdziepak 461045[21:32:45] <Dane_> oops[21:32:48] <Dane_> 46104[21:32:59] <Dane_> ahci mode seems to work better[21:33:05] <Dane_> It's survived a number of reboots[21:33:10] <Dane_> Continuing to try[21:33:17] <pdziepak> have you checked whether this happens on something more recent?[21:33:48] <Dane_> pdziepak No, for now we're kind of stuck at 46104 for a number of reasons that are beyond my pay grade...[21:34:04] <Dane_> We're working toward PM version but not ready quite yet to make the leap.[21:34:35] <Dane_> back in a bit[21:34:40] <umccullough> would be valuable to know if at least the issue has been fixed since then ;)[21:35:19] <pdziepak> well, i didn't say "use latest hrev instead", it would be just nice to know whether the fix is already somewhere in the history or the bug is still present[21:35:37] * umccullough forgets when the last rev before PM was[21:36:12] <umccullough> actually, weren't the scheduler changes merged after PM?[21:37:13] *** subcritical has quit IRC[21:38:17] <Skipp_OSX> yes[21:38:39] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[21:39:12] <Anarchos> nobody know what is the haiku equivalent of the «control buffer» of a linux «sk_buff» ? Is it «ancillary data » ?[21:39:57] <pdziepak> umccullough: scheduler was merged in hrev46690, it appears that this problem is much older[21:40:13] <umccullough> yes, i figured[21:40:14] <umccullough> ok[21:54:36] <Dane_> re[21:54:40] <Dane_> reading[21:55:24] <Dane_> umccullough I THINK the last one before PM was 46104, or if not, it was very close to that.[21:55:33] <Dane_> We call that the "glass ceiling" version right now. :-)[21:59:58] *** kkux has joined #haiku[22:00:43] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:02:21] <puckipedia> Dane_: Time to break that glass :)[22:02:22] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[22:04:52] <Dane_> puckipedia It's an ASAP thing with us, believe me.[22:06:48] <umccullough> it's probably a bit hard given that TT is commercial software being used in production[22:07:20] <umccullough> the PM features in Haiku are still a bit unfinished[22:07:51] <gordonjcp> Dane_: it's a shame you're so far away, I'd send in my CV ;-)[22:08:10] * umccullough finds it amazing that Haiku is being used in production at all[22:08:22] <gordonjcp> umccullough: yeah[22:08:44] <gordonjcp> it obviously gets the job done[22:09:31] <gordonjcp> Dane_: where's your UK office?[22:12:52] *** kcj has joined #haiku[22:19:08] *** Turingi has quit IRC[22:25:24] *** nighty-_ has quit IRC[22:31:14] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[22:35:45] <Dane_> re[22:35:48] <Dane_> reading the above[22:36:04] <Dane_> umccullough Agreed about the PM features[22:37:22] <Dane_> gordonjcp UK office is in Basildon Sussex[22:37:32] <gordonjcp> Dane_: ah, wrong end of the island[22:37:38] <Dane_> sorry :-)[22:37:48] * Dane_ isn't sure what a CV is[22:37:52] <gordonjcp> Dane_: that bit's under water, you should think about relocating to the north[22:38:02] *** jjholt has quit IRC[22:38:03] <gordonjcp> oh, you might call it a resume?[22:38:04] <Dane_> gordonjcp We've issued waterwings to the staff[22:38:06] <Dane_> ah oh[22:38:08] <Dane_> ok[22:38:27] * gordonjcp is well above the River Kelvin, albeit on the wrong side of the flood defences[22:38:56] <gordonjcp> unless you count roughly 20m rise I suppose[22:39:56] <gordonjcp> if the headwaters of the Kelvin flood by 20m then there are all sorts of other things likely to be wrong ;-)[22:43:42] *** rdmr has joined #haiku[22:48:06] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[22:50:12] *** ravens has joined #haiku[22:50:34] <ravens> hi everyone[22:53:24] <gordonjcp> ravens: hello[22:56:42] *** arselinux has joined #haiku[22:58:38] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:00:22] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[23:01:21] <ravens> hello[23:01:49] <ravens> somebody here use opensound:>[23:02:57] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[23:14:24] <irker-111> haiku.master: korli * hrev46873 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=480a333+%5Eea81f96[23:14:24] <irker-111> 480a333: Update freetype package for x86, x86_gcc2 and x86_64.[23:17:14] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[23:21:13] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[23:24:39] *** nighty^ has quit IRC[23:27:03] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[23:31:48] *** comrad has quit IRC[23:33:52] <tidux> ravens: no and neither should you[23:33:56] <tidux> it's old and shitty[23:34:50] <mmu_man> tidux: well you can send patches if it's buggy :p[23:35:00] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[23:35:48] <umccullough> i think it will need a proper package soon - someone is distributing repackaged hpkg versions of it[23:36:05] <umccullough> also, it still doesn't handle situations where another driver is already loaded[23:38:08] <mmu_man> umccullough: actually it should now, it just bails out when it finds a native driver is loaded[23:39:40] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[23:42:55] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[23:45:23] <umccullough> ah[23:45:32] <umccullough> mmu_man, is there an updated recipe for opensound?[23:45:42] <umccullough> we should probably get an official hpkg built[23:46:14] <waddlesplash> and stuck in all repos?[23:46:25] <umccullough> all repos?[23:46:46] <waddlesplash> x86_gcc2, x86, x86_64...[23:47:21] <umccullough> i think it's one repo with multiple arch's isn't it?[23:47:23] *** iMe has joined #haiku[23:47:32] <umccullough> i haven't really looked[23:47:43] <tidux> IIRC it's one "depot" with multiple arches[23:47:54] <tidux> sort of like Debian - you only see the packages for the architectures on your install[23:48:41] <mmu_man> umccullough: no, I had a look at it but didn't get far[23:48:44] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[23:48:52] <umccullough> they are listed as separate repos i guess[23:49:22] <umccullough> but... each repo has packages for multiple arch's so that's confusing as hell[23:49:24] <umccullough> http://packages.haiku-os.org/haikuports/master/repo/x86_gcc2/current/packages/[23:49:36] <umccullough> guessing they're just symlinks to the same repo[23:50:07] <waddlesplash> ik[23:50:10] <umccullough> vs http://packages.haiku-os.org/haikuports/master/repo/x86/current/packages/[23:50:37] <umccullough> the current packages.haiku-os.org stuff is sort of unfinished anyway[23:52:46] <mmu_man> I haven't yet looked at how to upload stuff there yet[23:55:19] <ravens> hi guys[23:55:35] <ravens> its crazy my adapter intel series 7 c200[23:55:45] <ravens> i cant do run[23:56:13] <ravens> i have the mixer and the hda driver[23:56:36] <umccullough> if hda is already loaded, then opensound probably won't help[23:56:52] <ravens> i can play files in the media player[23:57:01] <ravens> but i have just silence[23:57:18] <ravens> so... its crazy[23:57:27] *** Miyu has joined #haiku[23:57:35] <mmu_man> ravens: it's possible the default output is wrong[23:57:41] <mmu_man> try changing the output in the media prefs[23:57:42] <ravens> in some boots the sound 'work'[23:58:12] <umccullough> yeah, that sounds like flaky HDA driver - possibly bad init code[23:58:18] <umccullough> does it work after rebooting from another OS?[23:58:23] <umccullough> or, rather, not work?[23:58:35] <umccullough> cold boot vs warm boot?[23:58:48] <ravens> i am not sure[23:59:04] <umccullough> do some more testing :)[23:59:04] <ravens> but yesterday works after the first boot[23:59:16] <umccullough> file a ticket, provide syslog[23:59:59] *** hackkitten has quit IRC