February 9, 2014 
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February 9, 2014 [00:06:37] <Skipp_OSX> better bug report: http://pastebin.com/DgwgN6iP[00:06:40] *** idefix_xifedi has quit IRC[00:07:28] <Skipp_OSX> it's clearly crashing trying to free memory... so that means that it must have already been free or was never allocated[00:09:54] <bbjimmy> why the race condition? it works soometimes and sometimes it doesn't.[00:11:45] <Skipp_OSX> idk[00:11:47] <bbjimmy> once the program launches, there is no problem.[00:12:32] *** Sir_Designer_ is now known as Sir_Designer[00:13:11] <Skipp_OSX> bbjimmy: I wasn't talking about your ticket there... sorry[00:15:50] <Skipp_OSX> but to me, it seems like it could be a question of accessing freed memory[00:16:34] *** kkux has joined #haiku[00:16:50] <Skipp_OSX> its crashing in YabList::AddView either the char*, or the BView* could be invalid pointers[00:17:23] <Skipp_OSX> if they are, that would explain why the crash happens intermittently, the pointer is invalid, but, the memory might still be there, or it might not[00:17:58] <Skipp_OSX> just a guess[00:21:52] <bbjimmy> only on bound or compiled programs, the script works as advertised woth no launch errors.[00:23:06] <Skipp_OSX> I'm not familiar enough with YAB to know what that means[00:25:29] <bbjimmy> the script runs by calling the yab binary. the bound program has the yab binary and the script in the same file, the compiled version uses the yab source and the script to compile a binary.[00:28:28] <bbjimmy> I know how to use yab, and make scripts into binarys. I know vewry little about the internals of yab, though I have been brave enough to fix some buggs that were affecting my code.[00:30:39] *** NumberNoid has quit IRC[00:32:15] *** utente has joined #haiku[00:32:40] *** DKnoto_ has quit IRC[00:32:55] <utente> are you under attack? it is some day that bugtrack get a lot of new ticket with spam messages.[00:33:23] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[00:34:45] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[00:36:18] *** LjL is now known as LjL-BetaMale[00:42:59] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[00:43:53] <Skipp_OSX> utente: it's the price of success i guess[00:44:53] <utente> Skipp_OSX, i think is just the result or a brute a massive scan of attacket to million of websites :)[00:45:31] <tidux> anyone know why USB audio isn't enabled by default in the nightlies?[00:46:44] <utente> and haiku-os.org falled under it[00:48:50] *** poxip has quit IRC[00:52:25] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[00:58:33] <Skipp_OSX> utente: yeah, and because of our success we've been added to the massive scan of millions of websites[00:59:35] <Skipp_OSX> tidux: idk, probably too buggy?[01:00:08] <Skipp_OSX> we've got a GSoC project to improve libUSB[01:00:12] <utente> Skipp_OSX, i had website "home made" visited by few dozens every months, but i was victim of tons of spam. To be spammed doens meas to be famous, imo.[01:00:51] <utente> the scan using range of IP, who is in, is in.[01:00:53] <Skipp_OSX> utente: when we get targetted attacks we know we've made it:[01:01:01] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[01:02:02] <tidux> Skipp_OSX: libusb shouldn't matter to a kernel mode USB audio driver[01:02:20] <utente> if you thinks haiku website it targettet because is "famous", ok, i respect your viewpoint but i dont share it.[01:02:22] <tidux> IIRC it's a standard, so it either works with the standard or it doesn't, no need for runtime detection voodoo[01:02:45] <tidux> I'm gonna build Haiku with it enabled now that I have a fast PC, rather than just guessing[01:04:57] <Skipp_OSX> utente: I'm not saying that... spammers are everywhere[01:05:10] <utente> ok, i af[01:05:13] <utente> gree[01:05:19] <utente> ok, i agree[01:06:09] <utente> the point is to do all the best to avoid they go on to target the bugtracking system.[01:06:22] <Skipp_OSX> although, you do have to sign up for an account to post a bug report so they are doing a bit more than port scanning[01:06:57] <Skipp_OSX> We might think about validating email addresses on trac[01:07:26] <bbjimmy> or just a capacha[01:07:33] <tidux> captchas can be broken[01:08:05] <bbjimmy> yes, but this looks like a simple script.[01:08:10] <Skipp_OSX> I think validating email before allowing a post is better, I wonder if trac has built in supports[01:09:02] <bbjimmy> I thought thei was already part of track, I had to click an email link to register.[01:09:21] <bbjimmy> was it removed?[01:10:07] <Skipp_OSX> I can't remember it was so long ago when I registered[01:10:11] *** egrath has quit IRC[01:10:52] *** Tzibu_ has joined #haiku[01:10:56] <bbjimmy> mee too[01:11:33] <Skipp_OSX> It appears that trac does not support such a feature[01:11:36] *** Tzibu has quit IRC[01:11:56] <Skipp_OSX> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/Proposals/EmailValidation[01:12:18] <bbjimmy> bad memory[01:12:34] <Skipp_OSX> well, that proposal is 3 years old too, so who knows[01:13:36] <bbjimmy> I have been a member since it started.[01:13:47] <bbjimmy> :?[01:22:30] *** puckipedia|away is now known as puckipedia[01:27:41] <tidux> so I'm trying to configure Haiku to cross compile it[01:28:33] *** arselinux has quit IRC[01:28:36] <tidux> I'm getting an invalid argument error from ./configure --use-xattr --cross-tools-prefix=$HOME/src/HaikuDev/haiku/generated/cross-tools-x86/bin/i586-pc-haiku-[01:28:42] <tidux> is that syntax wrong?[01:29:33] <Skipp_OSX> tidux: look in the ReadMe[01:29:53] <Skipp_OSX> ../configure --target-arch x86_gcc2 --target-arch x86[01:30:08] *** arselinux has joined #haiku[01:30:14] <Skipp_OSX> tidux: from within your generated dir[01:30:33] <Skipp_OSX> I think --use-xattr will work as well, but isn't needed on BFS[01:30:42] <tidux> oh for fuck's sake[01:30:44] <tidux> this is on Debian[01:30:47] <tidux> I need xattr for XFS[01:31:04] <Skipp_OSX> hehe... okay well, use the configure line for non-Haiku[01:31:21] <tidux> I already built the tools[01:31:29] <Skipp_OSX> ../configure --use-xattr --build-cross-tools x86_gcc2 ../../buildtools/ --build-cross-tools x86[01:31:47] <tidux> half the documentation is out of date and contradictory[01:31:55] <tidux> the ReadMe suggests invalid configure flags[01:32:05] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[01:32:40] <Skipp_OSX> tidux: well... not invalid, see, --use-xattr-ref will work on file systems that don't have xattr support like ext3[01:33:27] <tidux> this is XFS, which has xattr[01:33:27] <Skipp_OSX> so it's a safer option... but if your fs does have xattr then you can specify --use-xattr instead[01:34:14] *** Muzer has quit IRC[01:34:52] <Skipp_OSX> I do --use-xattr on OS X here and it works great[01:36:50] <tidux> yeah, I have a nicely set up XFS mdadm RAID array, so I'm going to take advantage of it :P[01:37:05] <tidux> and passing -j8 to the buildtools process makes it fly[01:37:13] <tidux> the joys of an FX-8350[01:37:19] <Skipp_OSX> tidux: lucky[01:37:35] *** Muzer has joined #haiku[01:37:57] <tidux> I don't have a girlfriend, wife, kids, or car to worry about so I can afford to spend a few bucks on a nice computer :P[01:38:43] <Skipp_OSX> well, then the re-configure should go pretty fast[01:39:22] <tidux> wow, binutils is already done[01:39:24] <tidux> vroom vroom[01:39:48] <Skipp_OSX> I've been building here for the last half our[01:39:50] <Skipp_OSX> hour[01:40:01] <Skipp_OSX> it's still going... I need a faster computer[01:40:27] <tidux> C2D macbook?[01:40:47] <Skipp_OSX> this is a Core 2 Duo Mac Mini, so, similar in performance[01:41:08] <tidux> heh[01:41:14] <tidux> the new minis are pretty nice[01:41:19] <tidux> you can get one with an i7[01:41:41] <Skipp_OSX> I'm waiting for Haswell ones[01:41:57] <tidux> they still aren't on Haswell!?[01:42:04] <Skipp_OSX> no, not yet unfortunately[01:42:09] <tidux> good grief, used to be you bought an apple for superior CPU stuff[01:42:14] <tidux> I remember my G4 well[01:42:21] <Skipp_OSX> well, the Mini lags behind[01:42:43] <gordonjcp> right, I have some more Core 2 Duos here[01:42:50] <gordonjcp> time to boot Haiku and see what happens[01:43:10] <Skipp_OSX> Haiku runs nicely on a Core 2 Duo, but, it compiles at least as slow[01:43:12] <gordonjcp> I never did get netbooting working[01:43:38] *** soakbot has quit IRC[01:43:46] <tidux> wow, buildtools are done[01:43:52] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[01:45:55] <tidux> Skipp_OSX: so the jam command to generate a gcc2h nightly image is?[01:46:29] *** Guest18510 has joined #haiku[01:47:01] <Guest18510> hi anyone here?[01:47:03] <Skipp_OSX> tidux: idk[01:47:21] <Skipp_OSX> jam -q @anyboot-image will get you an anyboot image[01:47:27] <Skipp_OSX> but, it won't be a nightly which has options[01:48:23] <tidux> found it[01:48:25] <Skipp_OSX> looks like jam -q @nightly-anyboot or -raw or -vmware or -cd[01:48:27] <tidux> am -q @nightly-anyboot[01:48:42] <Skipp_OSX> yeah :)[01:48:47] <tidux> well, jam -q @nightly-anyboot -j8[01:48:48] <tidux> :P[01:48:56] <Skipp_OSX> but of course[01:49:07] <tidux> >don't know how to make nightly anyboot[01:49:09] <tidux> godfuckingdammit[01:49:23] <Skipp_OSX> try without the @[01:50:12] <tidux> nope[01:50:16] <Skipp_OSX> :([01:50:42] <tidux> all this build documentation predates PM so it's all crap[01:51:24] *** HubertX4 has quit IRC[01:51:32] <Skipp_OSX> there has got to be a command though[01:51:43] <Skipp_OSX> try haiku-nightly-image[01:52:29] <Skipp_OSX> where's buildbot when you need him?[01:53:36] <vooshy> tidux: website is a bit more up to date http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/jam[01:53:52] *** HubertX4 has joined #haiku[01:55:11] <tidux> still doesn't work[01:55:37] <Skipp_OSX> @release-anyboot doesn't work?[01:56:01] <tidux> nope[01:57:01] <tidux> jon@sharlin:~/src/HaikuDev/haiku$ jam -q @release-anyboot -j8[01:57:01] <tidux> No `BuildConfig' found in generated/build![01:57:01] <tidux> Run ./configure in the source tree's root directory first![01:57:11] <Skipp_OSX> wait[01:57:18] <Skipp_OSX> are you in the generated dir?[01:57:34] <tidux> I get different errors there[01:57:41] <Skipp_OSX> what do you get there?[01:57:47] <tidux> jon at sharlin:~/src/HaikuDev/haiku/generated dot x86gcc2$ jam -q @release-anyboot -j8[01:57:47] <tidux> Building Haiku R1/development preview[01:57:48] <tidux> WebKit build feature not available for x86_gcc2[01:57:48] <tidux> don't know how to make @release-anyboot[01:57:48] <tidux> ...patience...[01:57:48] <tidux> don't know how to make -j8[01:57:48] <tidux> ...found 2 target(s)...[01:57:49] <tidux> ...can't find 2 target(s)...[01:57:50] <Skipp_OSX> cause you should be building from your genearte dir[01:58:08] <gordonjcp> tidux: -j8 needs to go beside -q[01:58:31] <tidux> ok now it's working[01:58:41] <Skipp_OSX> okay... now that gets you release[01:58:51] <Skipp_OSX> you might want to cancel and do nightly instead if that's what you want[01:59:00] <tidux> I did do nightly :P[01:59:06] <Skipp_OSX> oh okay, then carry on[01:59:25] <tidux> and it's running inside tmux, which is neat because I started the build process over SSH from Haiku[01:59:28] <gordonjcp> what's the practical difference between nightly- and release- ?[01:59:43] <Guest18510> hi guy where you from?[01:59:51] <tidux> well my primary motivation was to see if enabling the usb_audio driver broke the nightly builds[01:59:59] <tidux> so testing on nightly made the most sense[02:00:14] <Skipp_OSX> gordonjcp: release contains extra stuff like assets, Haiku theming basically, also, I think there might be a difference in debug levels[02:00:37] <gordonjcp> Skipp_OSX: so, MOAR SHINEY?[02:00:49] <gordonjcp> I should have a crack at building one[02:01:32] <gordonjcp> weird, these HP dc7900s won't work off my current build but this other one I have here does[02:02:49] *** HubertX4 has quit IRC[02:05:19] <tidux> well this is just peachy[02:05:30] <tidux> I spend all night building Transmission on Haiku and it throws a library error[02:05:38] <tidux> ~/haikuports/packages> transmission-cli-x86[02:05:38] <tidux> runtime_loader: /boot/system/lib/x86/libiconv.so.2.5.0: Troubles reading ELF header[02:08:13] <tidux> well this is interesting[02:08:19] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[02:08:29] <tidux> jam -j8 actually fails because of a race condition[02:08:36] <tidux> tries to link telnet before telnet is compiled[02:11:27] <tidux> oh wow, build's done[02:11:32] <tidux> that was ridiculously fast[02:15:20] <Skipp_OSX> okay, I gtg, good luck[02:19:06] *** vooshy has quit IRC[02:21:46] *** hamishm__ has joined #haiku[02:22:05] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[02:28:52] *** iMe_away is now known as iMe[02:29:14] *** Guest18510 has quit IRC[02:30:03] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[02:30:06] *** paul0 has quit IRC[02:30:08] *** dr_evil_ has quit IRC[02:30:13] *** JoFo has quit IRC[02:30:16] *** hamishm has quit IRC[02:30:56] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[02:34:07] <gordonjcp> okay, so what would cause boot to fail, sticking at "load kernel kernel_x86"? locally-compiled nightly-anyboot[02:35:45] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[02:39:16] *** JoFo has joined #haiku[02:39:56] *** Negr0_ has joined #haiku[02:41:20] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:42:57] *** nighty-_ has joined #haiku[02:50:40] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[02:50:52] *** oco2 has quit IRC[03:03:24] *** kcj has quit IRC[03:16:41] *** fhein has quit IRC[03:18:28] *** mmadia has joined 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has joined #haiku[09:28:14] *** Coyo is now known as Guest97992[09:39:26] *** arselinux has quit IRC[09:48:17] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[09:58:57] *** puckipedia|away is now known as puckipedia[10:04:39] *** tqh has quit IRC[10:06:50] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[10:09:59] <irker-237> haiku.master: korli * hrev46845 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b3ece90+%5Eaa0797a[10:09:59] <irker-237> b3ece90: configure: --use-gcc-pipe now affects build_cross_tools_gcc4.[10:15:40] *** tqh has joined #haiku[10:20:36] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[10:28:47] *** iMe is now known as iMe_away[10:40:50] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[10:43:47] *** wee9 has joined #haiku[10:45:44] *** utente has quit IRC[10:47:31] *** tidux has joined #haiku[10:48:49] *** wee9 has quit IRC[10:50:34] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[10:57:58] *** fhein has joined #haiku[10:58:38] <gordonjcp> why would Haiku hang on boot in vesa_set_mode(), line 828 of src/system/boot/platform/bios_ia32/video.cpp?[10:58:48] *** humdinger has quit IRC[10:59:21] <gordonjcp> it actually crashes when it calls the BIOS in vesa_set_mode()[10:59:43] <gordonjcp> ... only for resolutions above 1024x768, it seems[11:03:03] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[11:03:55] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[11:05:22] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[11:07:45] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[11:08:45] *** iMe_away is now known as iMe[11:31:10] *** kcj has quit IRC[11:32:16] *** poxip has joined #haiku[11:32:53] *** epigraph has quit IRC[11:34:08] <poxip> hi[11:34:59] <humdinger> hullo[11:36:01] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[11:36:03] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[11:37:34] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[11:41:14] *** NumberNoid has joined #haiku[11:41:49] *** NumberNoid has quit IRC[11:42:12] *** alvin__ has quit IRC[11:42:15] *** NumberNoid has joined #haiku[11:42:33] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[11:43:57] *** alvin__ has joined #haiku[11:45:10] <Anarchos> hi humdinger[11:45:12] <Anarchos> hi poxip[11:45:21] <humdinger> ho Anarchos[11:45:26] * Anarchos is reinstalling TexLive, without tricks this time !![11:48:13] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[11:48:35] *** humdinger has quit IRC[11:50:45] *** luroh has quit IRC[12:00:28] <gordonjcp> morning[12:02:30] *** iMe is now known as iMe_away[12:02:30] <brobostigon> morning[12:03:41] *** luroh has joined #haiku[12:04:03] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[12:04:51] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[12:04:51] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[12:14:03] <Anarchos> h brobostigon[12:14:21] <brobostigon> hi Anarchos[12:54:46] *** poxip has quit IRC[13:01:58] *** iMe_away is now known as iMe[13:03:30] <Anarchos> brobostigon i am reinstalling LaTeX :)[13:03:44] <brobostigon> ok,[13:09:13] *** jua_ has quit IRC[13:09:57] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[13:12:23] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[13:13:35] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[13:26:17] *** tqh has quit IRC[13:26:35] *** poxip has joined #haiku[13:26:50] *** 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<munchausen> You're using the old method where you download the binaries seperately?[14:40:59] *** tqh has joined #haiku[14:42:50] <FreeFull> Sawteeth is pretty killer[14:44:29] <PulkoMandy> :)[14:49:30] <FreeFull> PulkoMandy: Say, where would I be able to download Web+ nightlies from?[14:49:49] <FreeFull> Unless the way to get them is to just get the nightly Haiku image[14:49:52] <PulkoMandy> yes[14:51:15] <Anarchos> munchausen yes :)[14:51:26] <Anarchos> munchausen i rebuilt it myself[14:52:21] *** tqh has quit IRC[14:57:22] <munchausen> Anarchos - awesome :) Will you make a recipe?[14:57:30] *** PlkMdy has joined #haiku[14:57:47] <Anarchos> munchausen i will try[14:57:58] <Anarchos> munchausen the binaries are available on my website anyway[14:58:48] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[14:58:48] *** PlkMdy is now known as PulkoMandy[14:59:52] <Anarchos> munchausen anyway i still have troubles with luatex so no "ps->pdf" conversion[15:00:04] <munchausen> Anarchos - great, thanks. It's one of the things I've always found painful with haiku, but am not brave enough to try building myself[15:00:21] <munchausen> so no pdflatex?[15:00:32] <Anarchos> yes pdflatex is there :)[15:00:53] <munchausen> then not bothered about ps->pdf conversion :)[15:00:55] <Anarchos> munchausen as a proof :[15:00:56] <Anarchos> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.14 (TeX Live 2014/dev/Haiku) (preloaded format=pdflatex)[15:01:06] <munchausen> Mostly just pdflatex and bibtex are what concern me :)[15:01:15] <Anarchos> note the Haiku in the comment ;)[15:04:13] *** alvin__ has quit IRC[15:04:40] <Anarchos> munchausen what do you need latex for ?[15:10:45] *** kcj has quit IRC[15:11:31] *** poxip has quit IRC[15:11:55] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[15:11:55] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[15:14:30] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[15:21:16] * gordonjcp returns and begins swearing at the bootloader[15:29:28] *** Negr0_ has joined #haiku[15:29:49] <munchausen> Anaasdasdasd[15:30:08] <munchausen> Argh, sorry my ssh went down[15:30:18] <munchausen> Well, the sending end didn't apparently[15:30:37] <munchausen> Anarchos I use it for writing papers[15:31:21] <Anarchos> munchausen ok[15:35:58] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[15:36:00] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[15:43:08] <gordonjcp> munchausen: ~.[15:43:27] <gordonjcp> hit return first just to ensure it's not got something buffered[15:43:32] <gordonjcp> haiku really needs mosh ;-)[15:45:22] <Anarchos> munchausen which kind of papers ?[15:45:31] <puckipedia> Well, try building it yourself[15:46:37] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[15:48:21] *** vostro has joined #haiku[15:48:50] <Anarchos> gordonjcp what is mosh ?[15:51:37] <Anarchos> I got a whole X documentation :)[15:56:15] *** kcj has joined #haiku[16:00:11] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[16:00:45] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[16:03:20] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[16:07:54] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[16:08:02] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[16:09:31] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[16:23:14] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[16:23:16] *** HaikuUser is now known as stam[16:25:19] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[16:26:03] *** iMe is now known as iMe_away[16:37:35] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[16:38:28] <munchausen> Anarchos CS papers :)[16:38:33] <gordonjcp> Anarchos: it's a remote shell, that works particularly well on ropey connections[16:48:04] *** stippi has quit IRC[16:48:42] <munchausen> gordonjcp - yes I used ~.[16:48:59] <munchausen> but not before id already typed some garbage unfortunately[16:49:49] <gordonjcp> heh[16:55:12] *** iMe_away is now known as iMe[16:57:35] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[16:58:29] *** stippi has joined #haiku[16:58:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[16:59:21] *** subcritical has quit IRC[16:59:38] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[16:59:48] *** _marc` has quit IRC[17:00:03] *** Muzer has quit IRC[17:00:36] *** myrkraverk has joined #haiku[17:00:37] *** myrkraverk has joined #haiku[17:00:39] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[17:05:07] *** Muzer has joined #haiku[17:05:09] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[17:16:12] <Skipp_OSX> whoo, okay, I got it working again[17:16:29] <Skipp_OSX> turns out I just had to set the length of the filename string[17:22:24] *** ackcontrols has joined #haiku[17:23:31] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[17:23:32] <Anarchos> munchausen more precisely ?[17:25:57] <Anarchos> got that :[17:25:58] <Anarchos> Can't exec "/bin/less -R": No such file or directory at /packages/perl-5.18.1-1/.self/lib/perl5/5.18.1/Pod/Usage.pm line 155.[17:30:12] <Skipp_OSX> or, so now the question is, what do I do with the filename that is too large to fit?[17:31:09] *** HubertX4 has joined #haiku[17:31:37] <Skipp_OSX> right now, it is just ignored... that's probably not a great option[17:32:01] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[17:38:38] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[17:38:38] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[17:39:16] *** luko has joined #haiku[17:40:07] *** kkux has quit IRC[17:42:24] *** stam has quit IRC[17:42:50] *** stam has joined #haiku[17:43:14] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[17:43:18] <munchausen> Anarchos, I work on binary reverse engineering[17:46:19] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[17:47:24] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[17:47:34] *** luko has quit IRC[17:50:54] <FreeFull> Anarchos: The -R is taken to be part of the executable's name[17:51:01] <FreeFull> I'm guessing so anyway[17:51:06] <FreeFull> Maybe not[17:51:30] <FreeFull> Maybe getting rid of the /bin/ will make it work[17:57:09] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:00:04] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[18:03:06] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:06:01] *** HubertX4 has quit IRC[18:08:11] *** stam has quit IRC[18:13:32] <Anarchos> FreeFull i did'nt write the perl package :)[18:13:45] <FreeFull> I know[18:19:18] *** stippi has quit IRC[18:21:35] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[18:22:06] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[18:23:00] <humdinger> Oi PulkoMandy. Should I file a ticket for Web+ downloading the odd little file (mostly 1px jpgs/gifs or html snippets) on certain websites?[18:23:19] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: or a re you aware of it? Maybe already fixed?[18:23:20] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[18:24:28] *** Marqin has quit IRC[18:24:28] *** Marqin has joined #haiku[18:24:55] <luroh> humdinger: web bugs?[18:25:42] <humdinger> luroh: probably the tracking pest... I dunno.[18:25:56] *** luko has joined #haiku[18:25:58] <luroh> right[18:27:56] *** luko has quit IRC[18:28:24] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[18:33:49] *** kkux has joined #haiku[18:36:09] *** iMe is now known as iMe_away[18:38:17] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[18:44:04] *** dsar has joined #haiku[18:44:20] <dsar> hola[18:44:36] *** irker-237 has quit IRC[18:45:02] <humdinger> hullo[18:45:43] <Anarchos> hi humdinger[18:45:57] <dsar> I would like to install haiku on an eeepc 701[18:46:06] <dsar> just to read pdf and some browsing[18:46:11] <scanty> i'm having trouble booting haiku, it gets to the folder icon (after the IC) and it seems to just hang[18:46:19] <scanty> booting off CD[18:46:44] <scanty> was working last night, then formatted a disk for haiku, and all went south afterwards[18:48:07] <humdinger> scanty: I've had those issues when booting from USB stick sometimes.[18:48:16] <humdinger> Tried it a few times and then it worked...[18:48:30] <scanty> i can't boot from USB since it KDLs instantly[18:48:34] <scanty> otherwise I would[18:48:34] <humdinger> After installing to HD, it seems to keep working.[18:48:54] <scanty> i had a lot of trouble partitioning the disk[18:48:59] <scanty> i still can't get it right[18:49:02] <humdinger> scanty: had those too. "Didn't find boot partition" or something.[18:49:22] <scanty> I init to BFS, then format then it says it can't mount volume ""[18:49:25] <scanty> but then it mounts it[18:49:36] <scanty> but it doesn't say that it's Be File System in the installer[18:49:38] <scanty> so it can't boot it[18:49:50] <scanty> still thinks it's ext2 for some reason[18:50:39] <humdinger> never had those issues...[18:51:11] <humdinger> but I have my partitions done under Linux for quite some time... only ever initialize it from time to time when updating Haiku.[18:51:13] <Skipp_OSX> scanty: it should have 1 (or more) partition(s) and then you format one BFS[18:51:30] <scanty> i created a partition[18:51:40] * humdinger is idle: dinnering[18:51:47] <Anarchos> humdinger i have that 1/3 boot attemps. It seems an ahci controller isn't initialized and won't find the sata disk, thus complaining about "no boot partition"[18:53:32] *** dsar has left #haiku[18:54:13] *** Ravens has quit IRC[18:54:25] *** vostro has quit IRC[18:58:26] *** NegrO_ has joined #haiku[18:59:08] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[18:59:47] *** Negr0_ has quit IRC[19:06:05] *** DaaT has quit IRC[19:24:48] * humdinger has returned[19:29:15] *** puckipedia|away is now known as puckipedia[19:30:42] *** Ravens has joined #haiku[19:32:54] *** oco2 has quit IRC[19:33:06] *** humdinger has quit IRC[19:34:04] *** umccullough has joined #haiku[19:34:58] <umccullough> i'm keeping the haiku website offline as it's producing too much disk access for the raid rebuild to complete effectively[19:35:44] <umccullough> in case anyone was curious :/[19:41:54] *** comrad has joined #haiku[19:41:55] *** comrad has joined #haiku[19:43:06] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[19:45:45] *** arselinux has joined #haiku[19:46:36] *** DaQatz_ has quit IRC[19:46:44] *** tqh has joined #haiku[19:47:13] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[19:49:16] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[19:50:08] *** DaQatz has joined #haiku[19:50:39] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[20:00:34] *** iMe_away is now known as iMe[20:04:25] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[20:08:11] <Anarchos> umccullough how long will it last ?[20:08:48] <umccullough> i may start it up again[20:09:01] <umccullough> best scenario would be that i could keep it offline for 2 more hours[20:11:05] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[20:11:33] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[20:13:08] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[20:21:57] *** iMe is now known as iMe_away[20:22:41] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[20:22:42] *** DaQatz has quit IRC[20:22:45] <umccullough> Anarchos, mdstat says it's 90% done, and ~60 mins left[20:24:51] <umccullough> I'll feel a lot better once the rebuild is complete, knowing that we can survive another disk failure :/[20:33:51] <Anarchos> umccullough thanks for the feedback[20:35:19] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[20:35:27] <DaaT> umccullough, I know the feeling :)[20:36:21] <umccullough> 92% and 45 mins...[20:36:32] <DaaT> tic toc...[20:36:52] <umccullough> problem is, the throughput keeps jumping around because two of the virtual machines are running and keep reading/writing the disk regularly[20:37:12] <umccullough> the 3rd VM (with the haiku website) was the worst though[20:37:37] *** tqh has quit IRC[20:37:47] <DaaT> dell server? hp?[20:37:53] <umccullough> good question[20:38:44] <DaaT> :)[20:38:56] <umccullough> easy way to find out from linux?[20:39:05] <umccullough> maybe something in /proc ?[20:39:35] <puckipedia> dmidecode -t 1?[20:41:32] <umccullough> Base Board Information[20:41:32] <umccullough> Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.[20:41:33] <umccullough> Product Name: P8H77-M PRO[20:41:43] <umccullough> no chassis mfgr[20:42:22] <puckipedia> dmidecode should have all info available[20:42:31] <DaaT> no worries, was just wondering[20:42:54] <umccullough> puckipedia, yeah, that's what i ran[20:43:18] <umccullough> must be some generic chassis[20:44:04] *** tqh has joined #haiku[20:44:44] <puckipedia> Try another flag[20:44:53] <umccullough> lots of "To be filled by O.E.M." output too[20:45:33] <umccullough> bios is AMI[20:45:47] <umccullough> other than bios and mainboard, i didn't see any relevant mfgr info[20:46:01] *** rdmr has joined #haiku[20:47:57] *** axeld has joined #haiku[20:47:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[20:48:03] <umccullough> 94% and 35 mins :)[20:48:52] <DaaT> fingers crossed![20:50:23] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[20:51:04] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[20:52:43] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[20:55:12] *** tidux has left #haiku[20:55:17] *** mkf has quit IRC[20:57:05] *** DaaT has quit IRC[21:07:18] *** mkf has joined #haiku[21:14:21] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[21:25:54] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[21:26:34] <umccullough> ok, it's > 99% now, and i gotta leave shortly, so i'll startup vmweb to get it online again[21:26:47] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[21:27:46] <umccullough> jeez, that really trashed the performance again[21:27:48] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:29:42] *** juser has quit IRC[21:34:21] *** bosii has joined #haiku[21:34:51] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:34:58] <luroh> sounds like we at some point ought to find out what the heck it's doing[21:37:14] <umccullough> it's just serving up web pages[21:38:38] <luroh> sure, but thrashing the disk like that?[21:38:45] <puckipedia> With mysql and stuff, so[21:38:47] <umccullough> mysql[21:39:03] <puckipedia> Is it mysql, or mariadb?[21:39:10] <umccullough> for the website, it's mysql[21:39:20] <umccullough> for dev.haiku-os.org it's postgres[21:39:27] <puckipedia> mariadb is an open source fork of mysql, which is slowly becoming less open source[21:39:30] <umccullough> i know[21:40:00] <umccullough> luroh, i suspect the real issue is that our drupal configuration has a bunch of modules installed that do who-knows-what[21:40:07] <umccullough> we probably need to start trimming them back[21:40:17] <luroh> something's up alright[21:40:33] <luroh> haiku-os.org has been the slowest loading page in FLOSS for years :)[21:40:39] <umccullough> heh[21:41:05] <umccullough> well, running it on a VM with ~2gb ram allocated is probably unfair[21:41:35] <umccullough> we get something like 2k-3k hits/day[21:41:57] <umccullough> on average - upwards of 50k hits during a thorough slashdotting :P[21:42:25] <umccullough> yay, rebuild complete[21:42:29] <umccullough> i can breathe easier now[21:42:31] <luroh> ![21:42:56] <puckipedia> Error: Event `´ not found[21:43:04] *** Bernte has joined #haiku[21:43:05] <umccullough> so, if something fails while i'm gone, sorry about that[21:43:46] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[21:44:06] * umccullough sees no such error here[21:44:28] *** juser has joined #haiku[21:46:12] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:50:53] *** poxip has joined #haiku[21:56:25] *** fhein has quit IRC[21:57:13] *** bosii has quit IRC[22:00:03] *** Megaf has quit IRC[22:00:28] *** comrad has quit IRC[22:03:41] *** jua_ has quit IRC[22:11:02] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[22:11:02] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[22:12:03] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[22:14:59] *** Ravens has quit IRC[22:18:13] *** Tzibu_ has quit IRC[22:21:23] <mmadia> PulkoMandy ..?[22:22:10] <PulkoMandy> ?[22:22:20] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[22:22:52] <PulkoMandy> mmadia?[22:22:53] <mmadia> just to check, did you get the email for the payment?[22:23:24] <PulkoMandy> "World First - Payment Notification" ?[22:23:30] * mmadia nods[22:23:42] <PulkoMandy> yes, I got it :)[22:25:04] * mmadia taps fingertips together, "Excellent."[22:26:15] <mmadia> btw, do you know that paypal and some other sites cannot properly download files?[22:26:51] *** Tzibu has joined #haiku[22:32:09] *** axeld has quit IRC[22:32:42] *** axeld has joined #haiku[22:32:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[22:54:51] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[22:56:32] *** axeld has quit IRC[22:58:59] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[23:04:02] *** Bernte has quit IRC[23:13:09] *** ackcontrols has quit IRC[23:27:43] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:32:43] *** NumberNoid has quit IRC[23:54:40] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has joined #haiku[23:57:47] *** Anarchos has quit IRC