February 2, 2014 
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IRC[06:06:18] *** ec has quit IRC[06:07:04] *** nataraj has joined #haiku[06:07:44] <nataraj> Hi[06:07:46] <nataraj> http://blog.cochard.me/2012/10/using-bcm4313-wireless-chip-under.html[06:08:03] <nataraj> does something like this work for Haiku, for bcm4313 wifi?[06:08:47] *** hmstrmn has quit IRC[06:09:17] *** Tzibu has quit IRC[06:09:24] <nataraj> the only thing bugging me as of now is wifi on my Acer netbook aspire one 722[06:10:15] <nataraj> OTT flash and skype! ;p[06:10:31] *** hmstrmn has joined #haiku[06:12:31] <nataraj> is there a concept of ndis in Haiku?[06:20:58] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[06:23:38] <nataraj> .mov files aint working as expected on an EeePC, on haiku of cours[06:24:48] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[06:26:27] *** freedomrun has quit IRC[06:26:28] *** juser has joined #haiku[06:33:18] *** johndrinkwater has quit IRC[06:33:25] *** johndrinkwater has joined #haiku[06:37:13] *** SonicX has quit IRC[06:42:38] *** freedomrun has joined #haiku[06:42:53] *** 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#haiku[16:09:51] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[16:09:53] <Premislaus> hello[16:20:05] *** narendraj9 has quit IRC[16:20:28] *** fhein has joined #haiku[16:37:41] *** stargater has quit IRC[16:44:13] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[17:00:57] *** hmstrmn has quit IRC[17:00:57] *** jua_ has quit IRC[17:08:21] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[17:08:32] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[17:09:03] <DaaT> PulkoMandy, managed to backup all the data?[17:09:52] <PulkoMandy> some corrupted files, it seems[17:10:02] <PulkoMandy> but yes, system running again at leas[17:10:02] <PulkoMandy> t[17:10:20] <DaaT> nice, good to know[17:16:26] <mmu_man> cool[17:16:34] <mmu_man> you didn't have a backup?[17:16:52] <mmu_man> says who has 3month old backup somewhere[17:17:29] <PulkoMandy> most of the stuff is on github or my howeserver or elsewhere[17:17:41] <PulkoMandy> so, I have a backup, but no restoration procedure to use it[17:18:00] <PulkoMandy> would take as much time to redownload and reconfigure everything[17:18:18] <DaaT> *nod*[17:21:09] *** frkazoid0223 has joined #haiku[17:22:47] *** poxip1 has joined #haiku[17:23:57] *** poxip has quit IRC[17:24:16] *** poxip1 is now known as poxip[17:25:48] *** frkazoid0223 has left #haiku[17:26:07] *** frkazoid0223 has joined #haiku[17:26:19] *** frkazoid0223 has left #haiku[17:27:01] *** xaxes` has left #haiku[17:32:57] *** SonicX has joined #haiku[17:40:33] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[17:50:33] *** NumberNoid has joined #haiku[17:51:09] *** hmstrmn has joined #haiku[17:54:59] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[17:59:07] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[18:08:29] *** bosii has quit IRC[18:10:25] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[18:15:18] *** epigraph has quit IRC[18:19:42] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[18:20:13] *** cucujoidea has joined #haiku[18:20:31] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[18:23:50] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:25:24] <DaaT> hey humdinger[18:25:36] <humdinger> hullo DaaT![18:26:09] <DaaT> how goes?[18:26:33] <humdinger> myself, I'm OK.The notebook has died... ;[[18:27:12] <humdinger> Finding a replacement isn't easy.[18:27:21] <DaaT> sorry to hear, did you kill it?[18:27:43] <humdinger> I guess so.[18:28:02] <humdinger> The cooler was very loud over the past weeks.[18:28:18] <humdinger> I wanted to have a look, to maybe get a replacement.[18:28:28] <DaaT> maybe the cpu or gpu fried[18:28:55] <humdinger> After I opened it up, it turns out the cooler isn't easilyreplaced...[18:29:02] <DaaT> that sucks[18:29:23] <humdinger> no no. it was still working, but at times the cooler got very loud.[18:29:38] <DaaT> ah[18:29:45] <DaaT> that happens with mine, I'll have to clean it again[18:29:46] <humdinger> anyway. after putting it all together, it won't start anymore.[18:29:52] <DaaT> did it before and helped.. for a while[18:30:07] <DaaT> no leftover parts? :)[18:30:27] <humdinger> I'll have a friend look at the comatose...[18:30:44] <humdinger> no,all three screws are back in. :)[18:31:12] <DaaT> :D[18:32:40] <humdinger> Can't complain. The bugger was over 7 years old.[18:32:51] <humdinger> Now I'm oggling a ThinkPad S540...[18:33:26] <DaaT> 7 years old? Wow, that's ancient[18:33:52] <humdinger> I aimed for 10 years...[18:34:05] <DaaT> had my previous laptop for 5, 10 is way too long[18:34:23] <humdinger> It's still fast enough.[18:34:41] <DaaT> depends on your needs[18:34:41] <humdinger> If anything were to be replaced, I'd go for SSD instead of HD[18:35:00] <DaaT> did that with my 4 y.o. laptop a couple of months ago[18:35:16] <humdinger> was the majorbottleneck, right?[18:35:25] <DaaT> aye[18:35:33] <DaaT> ram's already maxed at 8gb[18:35:38] * humdinger 's space key hangs sometimes...[18:35:49] <humdinger> 2 gb here...[18:35:56] <humdinger> (or there... dead on the table)[18:36:23] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[18:36:30] <DaaT> when you took out the cooler then put it back in, did you apply some thermal paste?[18:36:47] <humdinger> I grabed the wrong word.[18:36:52] <humdinger> I went for the fan really.[18:36:58] <humdinger> I couldn't remove it...[18:37:05] <DaaT> oh ok[18:37:42] <humdinger> Or better,I didn't dare,because I would have to remove to much.[18:38:12] <DaaT> *nod*[18:38:50] <humdinger> And frankly...after looking at a fewnew notebooks,I'm a bit eager to get one. :)[18:39:06] <DaaT> I know the feeling...[18:39:31] <DaaT> a friend is looking for a new one as well, I always get an "itch" of buying one for myself :P[18:40:04] <humdinger> You know if Haiku can deal with two graphics cards?[18:40:13] <DaaT> no idea, sorry[18:40:22] <DaaT> but I suspect it can, but only see one[18:40:26] <humdinger> one the i7 on-board thingy, one the AMD Radeon[18:40:29] <DaaT> kallisti5 would be the person to ask[18:40:50] <DaaT> or maybe it'll even see both, but switching maybe not supported?[18:40:59] * humdinger holler ! kallisti5 !...[18:41:40] <humdinger> The thing is, even ifthere won't be a driver, will I get 16:9 resolution (using VESA)?[18:42:05] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: the problem with these dual-card systems is the BIOS decides which one is active[18:42:16] <humdinger> oh[18:42:26] <humdinger> that might be problematic.[18:42:31] <PulkoMandy> on the nvidia+intel ones, this is a bit annoying, because we don't have a driver for the nvidia part, and it uses more power[18:42:34] <DaaT> humdinger, yes, though you might need to set it first through safe boot[18:44:14] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: so what happens when the BIOS switches cards?[18:44:17] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:46:12] <PulkoMandy> well, I guess the Thinkpad BIOS may allow a bit more control on this[18:46:12] <PulkoMandy> (so you can disable the more power-hungry card and keep the other one)[18:47:02] <gordonjcp> the intel one should be okay[18:48:16] *** linzst has joined #haiku[18:48:16] *** linzst has joined #haiku[18:50:20] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[18:50:30] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[18:51:57] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[18:52:40] *** linzst has quit IRC[18:53:07] *** poxip has quit IRC[18:54:29] <Skipp_OSX> even Linux has trouble dealing with 2 video cards...[18:55:30] <Skipp_OSX> wait, do you mean 2 video cards as in one is onboard and one is an add-on, say, in a Desktop, or do you mean that there are two video cards in a laptop, one used for low power situations and one used for high performance situations?[18:56:47] <DaaT> the latter[18:57:09] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:57:31] <DaaT> wb tqh[19:00:41] <humdinger> Skipp_OSX: yep, the latter, i.e. i7 with HD graphics 4400 and a big AMD Radeon add-on.[19:01:14] <humdinger> Personally, I wouldn't need the Radeon...[19:01:48] *** humdinger is now known as humdinner[19:01:49] <DaaT> humdinger, mine some litecoins with it :)[19:02:06] <puckipedia> mine some dogecoin[19:02:19] <DaaT> or that[19:02:22] <DaaT> doing both atm[19:02:26] <DaaT> for fun[19:08:56] *** jua_ has quit IRC[19:10:40] <umccullough> i need to do litecoin[19:11:08] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[19:11:09] * umccullough has a spare radeon 6950 sitting in the box on the shelf[19:12:52] <DaaT> yep, put it to use :)[19:13:01] <puckipedia> Or just play stupid games like Minecraft[19:13:03] *** GutsAndGloy has quit IRC[19:13:13] <waddlesplash> lol[19:13:20] * waddlesplash isn't a gamer at all[19:13:25] <waddlesplash> ok, with a few exceptions[19:13:41] <waddlesplash> I play Railroad Tycoon 3 a few times a year[19:13:49] <waddlesplash> but that's about it[19:14:16] *** vongrippen_ is now known as vongrippen[19:14:32] <waddlesplash> puckipedia: just curious, do you have a favorite widget toolkit?[19:14:52] <puckipedia> waddlesplash: no special one[19:15:04] <puckipedia> But I like how XAML works (on Windows Phone and Windows in general)[19:15:08] <puckipedia> Never really made one[19:15:20] <puckipedia> made an app for one of (gtk, qt, tk, etc)[19:15:27] <waddlesplash> XAML!?[19:15:31] <puckipedia> Yes, I know[19:15:32] <waddlesplash> ick[19:15:34] <puckipedia> I like it![19:15:52] <waddlesplash> Well, I'm a Qt guy myself[19:15:55] <waddlesplash> MOC FTW![19:15:58] <puckipedia> It´s easy to write manually, it has built in databinding![19:16:39] <puckipedia> I could make one xaml file that takes in calendar data and makes different tabs with a list of tasks for that day[19:16:45] <waddlesplash> Does anyone here think me crazy for writing an IDE from complete scratch?[19:16:54] <waddlesplash> I'm totally serious about doing this[19:17:03] <waddlesplash> puckipedia: huh, sounds interesting[19:17:03] <puckipedia> Some hints: Make everything modular[19:17:24] <waddlesplash> puckipedia: you mean for my IDE?[19:17:28] <waddlesplash> well, duh[19:17:31] <puckipedia> waddlesplash: yep[19:17:40] <waddlesplash> what other way is there to do it nowadays? ;)[19:17:41] <puckipedia> And make live-add add-ons[19:17:55] <waddlesplash> well, see, I'm designing it to be portable[19:18:10] <waddlesplash> so all you need is a compiler, the Standard C++ library, and CTags (ick, I know)[19:18:32] <puckipedia> but, make it so you can replace ctags with your own file parser[19:18:42] <waddlesplash> and the widget toolkit should take you a few days to port (yes, I'm writing a widget toolkit too)[19:18:45] <puckipedia> waddlesplash: And a display server ;)[19:19:13] <puckipedia> I mean, I try to make a school system (grades, calendar) every month or so[19:19:14] <waddlesplash> puckipedia: that's a long term goal that I may not get to, as CTags is a mess and there aren't other options, I'd be writing one from scratch[19:19:43] <waddlesplash> I personally like code reuse, it's just... if something's a mess, you fix it. Even if it works.[19:19:48] <puckipedia> waddlesplash: Just make a type of add-on that parses the solution and makes functions/variables and their locations[19:19:58] <waddlesplash> solution?[19:20:08] <puckipedia> whole lot of code files + ways to compile them[19:20:09] *** humdinner is now known as humdinger[19:20:10] <waddlesplash> what's this, VS?[19:20:18] <waddlesplash> oh[19:20:29] *** DaaT has quit IRC[19:20:43] <waddlesplash> I was going to write plugins, e.g. MakefileEnginePlugin, JamPlugin, CMakePlugin etc.[19:21:01] <waddlesplash> but 10,000 times less complex than Qt Creator plugins :)[19:21:10] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[19:21:29] <puckipedia> The JamPlugin must be able to build Haiku, btw[19:22:24] <waddlesplash> puckipedia: the whole reason I'm writing this IDE is so I can have an IDE with all the features I want on Haiku[19:22:43] <waddlesplash> so yes, JamPlugin has to understand Haiku Jam as well as Perforce Jam[19:23:38] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[19:30:37] <Skipp_OSX> what does JamPlugin do?[19:31:13] <Skipp_OSX> and what IDE does it plug in to?[19:32:31] <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: 1. nothing, I didn't write it yet 2. the IDE i'm writing that does literally nothing yet[19:33:00] <waddlesplash> So in other words: I'm writing an IDE with Haiku in mind :)[19:33:27] <Skipp_OSX> okay, I have to ask, why not work on Paladin instead?[19:33:52] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[19:34:28] <waddlesplash> A number of reasons, one of them being I want this IDE to be portable[19:34:36] <waddlesplash> so I'm writing a widget toolkit at the same time[19:34:48] <waddlesplash> it's a really, really basic widget toolkit[19:35:12] <waddlesplash> doesn't even have a drawing API, relies on the window manager to draw everything[19:35:27] <Skipp_OSX> I see, so it's not just an IDE for Haiku, it's a multi-platform IDE?[19:35:52] <waddlesplash> Yep, so you can have an IDE on all the strange places you never thought you could[19:36:00] <waddlesplash> maybe even Windows 95![19:36:19] <Skipp_OSX> um, okay then[19:36:23] <waddlesplash> But it'll have a bunch of Haiku-specific stuff like the Jam support and whatnot[19:36:33] <waddlesplash> At any rate, it'll be better than Pe[19:37:10] <Skipp_OSX> well, Pe isn't really an IDE, it's only a text editor[19:37:32] *** Sir_Designer has quit IRC[19:38:02] *** Sir_Designer_ has joined #haiku[19:39:27] <waddlesplash> it has its quirks tho[19:40:37] <Skipp_OSX> oh, it certainly does[19:42:47] <humdinger> waddlesplash: where can I download the hpkg? :)[19:42:58] <waddlesplash> hpkg for what? the IDE?[19:43:04] <waddlesplash> we're talking about how I'm going to write it[19:43:09] <waddlesplash> haven't written it yet :)[19:43:17] <waddlesplash> wait a month or so...[19:44:18] <humdinger> that's quick![19:45:50] <waddlesplash> well, i've been busy lately, could take longer[19:46:10] <waddlesplash> once I get it to open Makefile Engine projects, I'll post the source[19:46:32] <puckipedia> waddlesplash: Just put it on Github[19:46:47] <waddlesplash> puckipedia: obviously![19:47:07] <puckipedia> At the beginning, with the widget toolkit in another repo![19:47:27] <waddlesplash> well, the widget toolkit will appear a lot sooner[19:47:48] <waddlesplash> as soon as I get windows, trees, and tabs working with the qt backend, it'll post that[19:48:14] <waddlesplash> The hardest part of the widget toolkit will be the event handler, though.[19:48:27] <puckipedia> Is it going to be plain C or C++?[19:49:50] <Skipp_OSX> well, if Qt I'm guessing it must be C++[19:50:33] <puckipedia> I did some weird stuff with Obj-C and JS interoperability, and I set up a generic ¨Function¨ class, which can call an obj-c funciton, obj-c with callback, and also js with callback[19:50:34] <Skipp_OSX> waddlesplash: have you played with QML at all, might be a good way to rapid prototype a GUI[19:51:00] <waddlesplash> puckipedia: C++. Skipp_OSX: nope, just widgets[19:51:34] <waddlesplash> I dislike C a lot, everything I write is C++. And I'm writing a minimalist widget toolkit so it's easily portable, the Qt backend is just what I'm writing initially[19:51:49] <waddlesplash> I mean the Qt backend to the widget toolkit[19:52:54] <hamishm> why do you dislike C?[19:52:57] *** comrad has joined #haiku[19:53:19] *** GutsAndGloy has joined #haiku[19:53:35] <waddlesplash> hamishm: I dislike throwing malloc and pointers everywhere[19:53:48] <waddlesplash> If I had to write C to save my life, I probably could[19:53:51] <waddlesplash> Just a preference[19:54:09] <waddlesplash> And C++ is supported by every compiler worth its bytes, so there's no reason not to[19:54:17] *** GutsAndGloy has quit IRC[19:57:25] *** humdinger has quit IRC[19:57:26] <hamishm> fair enough[19:57:44] <hamishm> for me if you're writing in C then you probably want manual memory allocation and pointers[19:57:53] <hamishm> so it does what it does well[19:59:10] <PulkoMandy> well, some people tend to use C for much more things[19:59:15] * PulkoMandy looks at Linux and GTK[19:59:47] <PulkoMandy> or tend to go "C++? no, I heard that's crap, let's make our own language!"[19:59:50] * PulkoMandy looks at Vala[20:00:19] <puckipedia> Tcl/tk?[20:01:17] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: you forgot Qt and KDE :)[20:01:40] <PulkoMandy> I don't know the KDE world enough[20:01:53] <Skipp_OSX> I think GTK is a good example of why C really is not powerful enough to build GUIs out of...[20:02:15] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX: IUP gets it right[20:02:21] <PulkoMandy> or as right as possible, maybe[20:02:35] <PulkoMandy> but, no one uses that, I guess it feels too much object oriented to C coders[20:03:09] <Skipp_OSX> :) okay then[20:04:44] <waddlesplash> Hmm[20:05:00] <waddlesplash> Should I allow people to connect more than one even handler to one event?[20:05:06] <waddlesplash> in other words[20:05:25] <waddlesplash> std::map handlersForEvents; or std::multimap handlersForEvents; ?[20:06:00] *** Sue has quit IRC[20:06:01] <puckipedia> Yes, but let it stop propagating[20:06:11] <puckipedia> but make it so a handler can let it*[20:06:40] <waddlesplash> puckipedia: you mean deregisterEventHandler(event, handler)?[20:06:55] <puckipedia> like e.preventDefault() or return false;[20:09:02] <waddlesplash> gotcha[20:21:10] <waddlesplash> Anyone here know when the # and ## thing was introduced in preprocessors?[20:21:57] <waddlesplash> I mean "#define X(a) name#a (test)[20:22:11] <PulkoMandy> I'd say that's part of K&R C or C89, but I may be wrong[20:22:36] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: thnx![20:24:26] *** kcj has joined #haiku[20:31:52] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[20:38:45] *** neoman_ has joined #haiku[20:40:24] *** neoman has quit IRC[20:46:12] *** stargater has joined #haiku[20:47:39] *** hmstrmn has quit IRC[20:50:56] *** juser has quit IRC[20:51:51] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[20:52:03] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[20:52:51] *** kcj has quit IRC[20:59:11] *** SonicX has quit IRC[21:03:54] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[21:04:09] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[21:08:45] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[21:10:15] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[21:12:35] *** Sir_Designer_ has quit IRC[21:12:52] *** Sir_Designer_ has joined #haiku[21:14:54] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[21:17:39] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[21:19:56] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[21:20:26] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[21:26:10] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[21:26:21] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[21:27:37] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[21:28:02] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[21:31:59] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[21:32:55] *** SonicX has joined #haiku[21:41:25] *** kkux has joined #haiku[21:44:15] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[21:45:22] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[21:55:40] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:01:54] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[22:06:16] *** wadlspl has joined #haiku[22:06:58] *** juser has joined #haiku[22:08:03] *** juser has quit IRC[22:10:24] <wadlspl> so, what Americans here are watching the big game today?[22:10:38] <wadlspl> I'll probably see until halftime show at least[22:10:45] *** Sue has joined #haiku[22:10:45] *** Sue has joined #haiku[22:10:56] <DaaT> I'm not american and I'll watch it :)[22:11:29] *** juser has joined #haiku[22:11:38] * gordonjcp has very little interest in sports that don't contain cars, horses or extreme violence, in some varying proportion[22:12:20] <wadlspl> DaaT: really? an american football fan who'[22:12:25] <wadlspl> s not american?[22:12:37] <wadlspl> what nationality are you, DaaT?[22:12:41] *** Xenmen has joined #haiku[22:12:48] <gordonjcp> I don't understand American "football"[22:13:04] <gordonjcp> it's a bunch of guys in fat suits waddling around carrying a rugby ball really slowly[22:13:13] <gordonjcp> then a couple of them fall over so they take a break for 15 minutes[22:13:14] <DaaT> wadlspl, not a big fan, I don't watch games during regular season nor playoffs, but I do like to watch the superbowl[22:13:14] <gordonjcp> wat[22:13:20] <DaaT> I'm in Portuguese[22:13:26] <DaaT> I prefer rugby[22:13:39] <DaaT> but the SB is fun[22:13:50] *** comrad has quit IRC[22:14:25] <wadlspl> Interesting[22:14:27] * gordonjcp prefers shinty[22:14:27] <luroh> oh, i love bowling[22:14:48] <DaaT> bowling is fun :)[22:15:08] <DaaT> even on the Wii[22:25:04] <puckipedia> DaaT: Just turn away from the screen (and sensor), I can throw 99% accuracy strikes in Wii Sports[22:25:19] <Anarchos> DaaT i never understood how it works on the wii, to curve the throw of a ball[22:25:30] <DaaT> puckipedia :)[22:25:41] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[22:25:49] <DaaT> Anarchos, just turn your wrist as you release the ball[22:25:57] <DaaT> turn is on the horizontal axis[22:25:58] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[22:26:37] <DaaT> as in, left or right[22:29:16] <Anarchos> DaaT ok[22:29:33] *** cucujoidea has quit IRC[22:32:21] <DaaT> hahahahaha http://deadspin.com/cbs-broadcasts-wi-fi-password-for-secret-super-bowl-sec-1514436573[22:33:32] <wadlspl> XD[22:33:34] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[22:33:43] <puckipedia> Irony, it´s about the security[22:33:58] <wadlspl> I heard there will be 50 snipers hidden in the stadium too[22:38:21] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[22:38:33] <DaaT> only 50? :)[22:38:54] <wadlspl> lol[22:39:06] <wadlspl> some friends say they heard 60 snipers total, but IDK now[22:39:15] <DaaT> not one per person in the stadium?[22:39:31] <luroh> oh dear, i hope security finds them before they shoot someone[22:39:40] <DaaT> :)[22:40:08] <wadlspl> luroh: they're US Army snipers[22:40:12] <wadlspl> on purpose[22:40:17] <luroh> bowling is not about violence[22:40:34] <wadlspl> football isn't either, really[22:40:48] <DaaT> especially with all that padding[22:40:48] <wadlspl> our government is addicted to the false sense of security power provides[22:40:51] <DaaT> bunch of babies[22:40:53] <luroh> oh, footbowl :|[22:41:06] <DaaT> no, american football, not REAL football[22:41:07] *** freedomrun has quit IRC[22:42:36] <geist> commercialbowl[22:43:20] <DaaT> that too[22:43:29] <DaaT> 4mill per 30 secs.... ridiculous[22:44:23] <wadlspl> and all the good ones already would up on YouTube[22:48:57] *** SonicX has quit IRC[22:51:57] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[22:52:31] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[22:56:58] *** freedomrun has joined #haiku[23:04:30] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:11:46] *** wadlspl has quit IRC[23:13:06] *** mikedld has quit IRC[23:16:08] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:16:11] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[23:22:50] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[23:45:39] *** neoman_ has quit IRC[23:45:56] *** jua_ has quit IRC[23:55:19] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[23:56:43] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[23:58:09] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[23:59:06] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[23:59:11] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC