March 21, 2013 
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March 21, 2013 [00:01:58] <Premislaus> hi jstressman[00:03:46] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[00:04:22] <Premislaus> I've been better.[00:04:46] <jstressman> :/[00:05:30] <jstressman> just had a friend in Lithuania disappear for a few weeks.... came back to say he'd been in the hospital to have some of his intestines removed because he was bleeding internally and suffering from anemia as a result. :([00:05:48] <jstressman> makes me feel fortunate.[00:08:44] <Premislaus> Too bad... I have too many problems lately, which I do not know how to solve.[00:15:55] <Premislaus> jstressman: What are you doing recently on Haiku?[00:17:31] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[00:17:45] <jstressman> I had to take a break for a bit to focus on paying work. :/ have to make sure to pay the rent. ;)[00:19:08] <Premislaus> ahhh[00:19:30] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[00:30:53] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[00:34:26] *** dru_ has quit IRC[00:35:18] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[00:41:49] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[00:44:38] *** _marc` has quit IRC[00:48:21] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:49:28] <irker-716> haiku.master: pdziepak * hrev45390 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3d06479+%5Edf4d35e[00:49:29] <irker-716> 1ca8178: nfs4: Fix #9555: wrong relational operator used[00:49:30] <irker-716> 3d06479: nfs4: Allow customization of DirectoryCache expiration time[00:52:26] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[00:53:05] *** Postumus has quit IRC[00:58:04] *** BitPuffin has quit 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haiku.master: pdziepak * hrev45392 [4 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b6868c6+%5E18d2a36[03:41:07] <irker-716> 65389e2: nfs4: Fix CID 991755: break the loop after finding required element[03:41:08] <irker-716> ce6f81f: nfs4: Fix CID 991503: memory leak in handling callback requests[03:41:09] <irker-716> edb1255: nfs4: Fix CID 991494: memory leak if acquiring a lock fails[03:41:09] <irker-716> b6868c6: nfs4: Fix CID 991756: do not delete RPC::Request if (re)sending fails[04:10:50] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[04:27:30] *** swpd has joined #haiku[04:39:28] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[04:57:00] *** rennj has joined #haiku[05:06:01] *** kcj has joined #haiku[05:12:54] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[05:20:11] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[05:20:33] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[05:50:12] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[05:52:19] *** kcj has quit IRC[05:57:58] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[06:10:08] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[06:26:45] *** Pods has joined #haiku[06:27:34] <Pods> Hi, any ups for applicants for gsoc2013 with haiku??[06:54:40] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[06:58:26] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[07:30:51] *** Postumus has quit IRC[07:37:20] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[07:55:09] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[08:10:03] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[08:18:08] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku[08:19:07] *** johndrinkwater has quit IRC[08:47:08] *** smallove has joined #haiku[08:47:29] *** planktonizer has joined #haiku[08:49:06] *** smallove has quit IRC[08:56:41] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[08:58:46] *** _marc` has quit IRC[09:07:05] *** Poca has quit IRC[09:18:20] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[09:25:51] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[09:26:14] *** axeld has joined #haiku[09:26:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[09:30:57] *** hey68you has joined #haiku[09:52:18] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[10:04:39] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[10:11:03] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:14:55] *** kcj has joined #haiku[10:38:24] *** 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<Skipp_OSX> Paradoxon: setgcc gcc4[13:36:50] <jstressman> doh! I misread the question[13:36:53] <jstressman> my apologies. :([13:36:56] <jstressman> thanks Skipp_OSX[13:37:12] <jstressman> somehow I missed the "how" :/[13:37:34] <Skipp_OSX> hi jstressman[13:38:05] <Skipp_OSX> I need to mount a network share to test http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/9554[13:40:45] <jstressman> http://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=330[13:40:55] <jstressman> "GCC and C vs C++ Speed, Measured."[13:41:34] <jstressman> Skipp_OSX: yeah, I saw that ticket yesterday and you were the first person I thought of. ;)[13:47:57] <OmniMancer> jstressman: interesting, though that is just showing that g++ has matured as a compiler[13:48:33] <jstressman> right.[13:49:07] <OmniMancer> and its only showing the g++ works just as well as a C compiler as gcc[13:57:17] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[14:09:38] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[14:12:10] <dru_> yay, have FreeTDS working fully on Haiku[14:12:26] * dru_ does a little happy dance over in the corner[14:12:39] *** subcritical has quit IRC[14:12:47] <Pods> Hi, any ups for applicants for gsoc2013 with haiku??[14:14:10] *** rennj has quit IRC[14:18:17] *** adri__ is now known as adri[14:18:22] *** adri has quit IRC[14:18:22] *** adri has joined #haiku[14:20:41] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[14:28:33] *** rennj has joined #haiku[14:32:27] <munchausen> I'm loving that the terminal now works properly with irssi. Whoever's responsible for the terminal updates - thankyou![14:34:00] *** rennj has quit IRC[14:35:30] *** Penix has quit IRC[14:38:08] *** rennj has joined #haiku[14:38:23] *** flos has joined #haiku[14:40:13] <mmu_man> munchausen: oh cool :)[14:40:31] <mmu_man> didn't try to build irssi yet[14:41:20] *** Penix has joined #haiku[14:41:21] <mmu_man> he'll be happy to know[14:41:44] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[14:43:50] *** subcritical has quit IRC[14:46:06] <munchausen> mmu_man - I didn't build irssi, last time I looked in ports it's broken I think? But I'm using it via ssh and it displays properly now, I used to use arfonzos fonzoterm exclusively for irssi (unfortunately fonzoterm doesn't work with vim, so I had to use two terminal apps depending on what I am doing... somewhat annoying). This is great![14:47:36] <munchausen> What's quite funny is that my vim colors were all set up to work nicely with the old terminal, and when it was updated they went all screwy because they were suddenly displaying properly, so I had to change them again![14:49:33] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[14:56:53] <mmu_man> munchausen: ah ok[14:57:12] <mmu_man> I thought someone ported it, would have removed one item from my TODO list :P[15:00:12] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[15:02:01] *** _paul0 has joined #haiku[15:03:31] *** paul0 has quit IRC[15:03:32] *** _paul0 is now known as paul0[15:06:37] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[15:07:50] <munchausen> mmu_man - if I get a chance I'll look at it at some time.. it would be nice, but it's not really a priority mostly since I can use it over ssh and prefer that anyway, as that way I'm permanently signed in and don't have to connect/reconnect all the time[15:08:13] <munchausen> BTW, I've got a couple of questions about stuff in ports[15:08:55] <munchausen> A bunch of stuff I built recently I had to change a configure.ac macro to get it to build (AC_CONFIG_HEADER to AM_CONFIG_HEADERS, IIRC)[15:09:26] <munchausen> This is due to an update of automake[15:10:20] <munchausen> Now, I don't think we should patch, as this should come from upstream, but that might not happen for a while (it seems to break a lot of things). And I also hear that the next verison of automake this will be fixed.[15:10:39] <munchausen> So I guess the short term solution is just to manually patch things as you build them?[15:11:19] <munchausen> It's annoying because there's a lot of stuff now broken in ports because of this very minor bug[15:11:31] *** subcritical has quit IRC[15:11:55] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[15:12:39] <munchausen> But there's a wider issue here - could we not make an effort to get upstream people to update their automake junk? Then we wouldn't need to run libtoolize, automake etc for just about every port, we could just use the distributed configure script[15:12:53] *** subcritical has quit IRC[15:14:07] <munchausen> I looked at a couple of ports and some of them are using like 10 year old config.guess files from really old versions of automake that don't know about haiku. If they would just update it would save haiku porters a lot of pain[15:25:40] <munchausen> I don't mind doing the leg work of actually contacting upstream project mailing lists, but I wanted to get someone elses opinion on whether it's worth it and check if I haven't misunderstood some technical issue?[15:29:09] *** mty has joined #haiku[15:33:20] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[15:36:42] <mmu_man> munchausen: yes we can keep these transcient patches in haikuports[15:37:11] <mmu_man> for antique config.guess indeed it's better to ask them to fix upstream[15:49:17] <munchausen> cool. I might make some patches for some of those things over the weekend (it was the ffmpeg dependencies I got caught on, libogg, libvorbis, speex etc)[15:51:46] *** jan__64 has joined #haiku[15:52:34] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[16:02:03] *** stef__ has joined #haiku[16:02:11] *** Postumus has quit IRC[16:03:12] *** stef has quit IRC[16:03:59] <Dane_> greetings[16:04:07] <Dane_> Hey kinda big news for me today[16:04:17] <Dane_> http://lebuzzin.wordpress.com second story down[16:05:55] * jstressman reads[16:09:47] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[16:21:08] *** HardlySeen has joined #haiku[16:22:58] *** Pods has quit IRC[16:28:45] <Dane_> mmu_man We have a final hardware profile for Haiku machines now. Coming together nicely...hope to have packages ready to release offically in a month.[16:36:09] <mmu_man> cool :)[16:45:52] <dru_> good news Dane.[16:45:58] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[16:46:22] <dru_> always nice to Tune Tracker living on. It was such a killer app in the early wild BeOS days[16:55:28] *** [paladin] has quit IRC[16:55:39] *** hey68you has quit IRC[17:07:32] *** axeld1 has joined #haiku[17:08:45] *** axeld has quit IRC[17:14:15] *** subcritical has quit IRC[17:17:44] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[17:18:02] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[17:25:46] *** prkc has joined #haiku[17:27:09] *** axeld1 has quit IRC[17:27:26] *** axeld has joined #haiku[17:27:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[17:38:41] *** _marc` has quit IRC[18:08:03] *** flos has quit IRC[18:15:01] *** fhein has joined #haiku[18:15:22] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[18:17:08] <munchausen> I remember on someones site there was a list of beos abandonware needing a maintainer/porter/new home, but I can't find it. Can anyone point me in the right direction?[18:25:50] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[18:29:00] <munchausen> ah, founbd it on pulkomandys site[18:32:03] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[18:41:33] *** axeld has quit IRC[18:43:39] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[18:54:05] *** _marc` has quit IRC[18:55:27] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[18:57:23] *** swpd has quit IRC[18:59:27] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[19:18:39] *** HardlySeen has quit IRC[19:20:16] *** HardlySeen has joined #haiku[19:21:26] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[19:22:21] *** swpd has joined #haiku[19:24:43] *** adev has quit IRC[19:26:04] *** Blub\w has joined #haiku[19:27:30] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[19:30:46] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[19:33:24] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[19:35:46] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[19:36:02] *** Postumus has joined #haiku[19:38:48] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[19:39:56] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[19:40:26] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[19:40:37] *** dsjonny has joined #haiku[19:59:33] <dru_> is there any interest in having the old Sum-It application brought current on Haiku ?[20:05:53] *** Hubert__ has joined #haiku[20:08:50] *** dru_ has quit IRC[20:09:38] *** dsjonny has quit IRC[20:12:26] *** dsjonny has joined #haiku[20:16:29] <AlienSoldier> dru_ if it is stable i don't see why not[20:17:07] <AlienSoldier> i like the idea of having a small spreadsheet app available[20:18:27] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[20:18:28] <AlienSoldier> This is the kind of app i could see myself use a lot with stack and tile if we can eventually save the bunch of windows as project.[20:20:00] *** ex-parrot has quit IRC[20:23:28] <Paradoxon> Thanks Skipp_OSX .. sorry was away... at work[20:23:34] <Paradoxon> i need to test it now..[20:24:47] <Paradoxon> jstressman it looks like CLucene need gcc4... http://lists.ports.haiku-files.org/htdig.cgi/haikuports-devs-ports.haiku-files.org/2009-August/000581.html[20:25:49] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[20:26:08] *** slubman has quit IRC[20:26:39] <Paradoxon> Hi jan__64[20:28:31] *** slubman has joined #haiku[20:39:30] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[20:42:13] *** dsjonny has quit IRC[20:43:41] *** kcj has joined #haiku[20:46:29] *** juser has joined #haiku[20:48:10] *** tqh has joined #haiku[20:49:43] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[20:57:00] <Paradoxon> Is osdrawer still maintained???[21:02:15] <Paradoxon> is there any admin from osdrawer around??[21:03:19] *** kcj has quit IRC[21:07:20] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[21:07:40] <Paradoxon> args i cant access my projects from osdrawer :([21:07:57] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[21:10:24] <jstressman> :([21:10:48] <jstressman> I think all the stuff should be pulled off there and migrated so something more stable and well maintained. but maybe that's just me.[21:11:12] <Paradoxon> the problem is..[21:11:23] <Paradoxon> i have had a hidden project there...[21:11:41] <Paradoxon> http://dev.osdrawer.net/projects/immersivevideo/[21:11:43] <Paradoxon> ...[21:12:00] <jstressman> can't login?[21:12:07] <Paradoxon> Nope[21:12:11] <jstressman> ah :([21:12:20] <Paradoxon> and i am pretty shure... that i dont lost my password..[21:12:31] <Paradoxon> had to use it thousend times to commit..[21:13:26] <Paradoxon> hmm ohhh.. annonymus checout worked... LOL not verry secure..[21:14:17] <Paradoxon> ok if i fire back on my haiku maschine.... i guess i try to port this stuff to haiku too :-D[21:15:13] <Paradoxon> Just need to make shure that i have the rights to publish it ..[21:19:07] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[21:22:30] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[21:25:49] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[21:26:07] *** HardlySeen has quit IRC[21:27:15] <Paradoxon> ok i need to go... long day tomorrow... cu[21:27:34] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[21:35:08] *** stef__ is now known as stef[21:36:52] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[21:40:27] *** mty has quit IRC[21:44:17] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:48:18] *** ex-parrot has joined #haiku[21:54:39] *** prkc has quit IRC[22:07:54] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[22:16:26] *** Tanami has quit IRC[22:16:26] *** Tanami has joined #haiku[22:21:15] *** dru_ has quit IRC[22:23:33] *** Hubert__ has quit IRC[22:44:47] *** Blub\w has quit IRC[22:47:42] *** jjido has joined #haiku[22:50:25] *** rennj has quit IRC[22:53:36] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[22:54:48] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[22:57:21] *** stef has left #haiku[23:07:58] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[23:14:58] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[23:17:02] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[23:22:45] *** valeriusN has left #haiku[23:23:00] *** valerius2k has joined #haiku[23:26:30] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[23:39:11] *** PasNox has quit IRC[23:45:37] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[23:45:56] *** HardlySeen has joined #haiku[23:47:27] *** valerius2k is now known as valeriusN[23:48:58] *** jjido has quit IRC[23:52:06] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[23:54:42] *** fhein has quit IRC