July 1, 2012 
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July 1, 2012 [00:02:39] *** kcj has joined #haiku[00:10:32] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[00:20:08] *** Huggy has quit IRC[00:20:31] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[00:27:09] *** Ingenu_ has quit IRC[00:28:43] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:28:43] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:29:55] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[00:41:19] *** jjido has joined #haiku[00:41:22] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[00:48:40] <CIA-63> haiku.master: mmadia * hrev44274 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=191b137 : Updated VL-Gothic fonts to version 20120629. Fixes #8662.[00:51:33] *** volci has joined #haiku[01:07:16] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #585 of powerpc-any-host is complete: Failure [failed [ppc] haiku-image [ppc] @nightly-raw] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/powerpc-any-host/builds/585 blamelist: Matt Madia <mattmadia at gmail dot com>[01:14:10] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #500 of x86-debug-any-host is complete: Failure [failed [x86gcc2]-debug [x86gcc4]-debug] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-debug-any-host/builds/500 blamelist: Matt Madia <mattmadia at gmail dot com>[01:39:04] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:01:16] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[02:05:01] *** jjido has quit IRC[02:08:48] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[02:08:50] *** sepp has quit IRC[02:10:48] *** sepp has joined #haiku[02:20:52] *** _marc` has quit IRC[02:21:11] *** oco2 has quit IRC[02:48:30] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[02:48:40] *** sepp has quit IRC[02:51:52] *** orealis has joined #haiku[02:58:28] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:59:36] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega|away[03:20:15] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[03:30:08] *** abhiin1947 has joined #haiku[03:42:13] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[03:44:31] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[03:46:55] *** Gareth has quit IRC[03:47:43] *** Gareth has joined #haiku[04:09:29] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[04:13:59] *** synchris has quit IRC[04:16:53] *** XenoDuck has quit IRC[04:20:55] *** carter has joined #haiku[04:30:28] *** JsobCloud has joined #haiku[04:36:21] *** Jessica_Lily has quit IRC[04:40:19] *** Disreali has quit IRC[04:41:55] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[05:25:02] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[05:41:53] *** abhiin1947 has quit IRC[05:50:02] *** Disreali has quit IRC[05:50:20] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[05:52:18] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[05:57:16] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[06:03:57] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[06:19:07] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[06:19:51] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[06:33:08] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[06:35:06] *** carter has quit IRC[06:35:22] *** carter has joined #haiku[06:35:52] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[06:36:53] *** Hubert^^_ has joined #haiku[06:39:07] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[06:40:18] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[06:40:33] *** Hubert^^_ is now known as Hubert^^[06:41:02] <CIA-63> haiku.master: mmlr * hrev44275 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=c95456a : Add qrencode kernel debugger add-on to the image. [7 commits][06:43:45] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[06:48:31] *** mmadia has quit IRC[06:48:43] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[06:48:43] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[06:49:59] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[06:51:24] <DHowett> qrencode.[06:51:48] <DHowett> Like, generate a QR code from what's on the screen so that people can more easily get text out of it? Or is this some sort of hilarious failed interpretation.[06:54:46] <CIA-63> haiku.master: mmlr * hrev44276 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=db744fc : Add libqrencode credits to AboutSystem.[06:55:56] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[06:56:35] *** Flos has joined #haiku[06:57:09] *** Flos has quit IRC[06:58:04] <mmadia> DHowett http://imagebin.org/219028[06:58:28] <DHowett> mmadia: that is the coolest thing.[06:58:37] <mmadia> Yeah![06:59:22] <mattlacey> huh?[06:59:26] <mattlacey> is that the machine config or something?[07:00:59] <mmadia> It the output of a kdl command, encoded as a qr image.[07:01:52] <mmadia> Here's the text, from running that image through a decoder http://pastebin.com/8X59MnfB[07:01:55] <mattlacey> hah[07:01:57] <mattlacey> crazy :)[07:02:52] <mattlacey> that's possibly the best use for QR codes I've seen yet[07:03:08] <DHowett> s/best/only/[07:04:57] <mattlacey> that's freaking genius[07:05:11] <mattlacey> being able to get editable text from photographs of dumps etc.[07:05:27] <mattlacey> plus I assume you could get more info than would fit on the displayed terminal screen?[07:06:54] <mmadia> Im not sure how much text can be encoded in one image. By reading the commit message, it looks like the image is similar to ascii art.[07:08:40] <mattlacey> love it though[07:08:59] <mmadia> Yeah![07:18:08] *** mmadia has quit IRC[07:18:27] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[07:18:28] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[07:20:25] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #586 of powerpc-any-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/powerpc-any-host/builds/586[07:21:40] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[07:22:24] <Premislaus> hi[07:22:26] <Premislaus> Could someone explain how it is working?[07:22:34] <augiedoggie> magic[07:22:35] <Premislaus> kdl - qr code[07:23:08] <Premislaus> I do not have smartphone...[07:23:33] <augiedoggie> then it's probably of little use to you[07:23:50] <mmadia> a normal camera would be useful too.[07:24:23] <mmadia> e.g., take a photo of the qr code, de-code it, and then paste the text in a bug report (instead of uploading an image)[07:24:27] <augiedoggie> meh, about the same as taking a picture of the text[07:25:26] <mmadia> for the user reporting the ticket, sure. but it's more useful to everyone else.[07:25:36] <Premislaus> It's better\faster to copy the syslog[07:25:56] <mmadia> the developers looking at the ticket, other endusers who search trac for similar problems.[07:26:37] <Premislaus> ok :)[07:30:02] <Premislaus> In the Haiku is a program that will decode it?[07:30:15] <Premislaus> jpg photo with qr code?[07:30:32] <augiedoggie> there are websites that will do it[07:36:29] *** markos_ has quit IRC[07:56:09] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #501 of x86-debug-any-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-debug-any-host/builds/501[08:15:39] *** eriaranth000 has quit IRC[08:23:24] *** DebianTUX has quit IRC[08:25:17] <Premislaus> There is one problem. QR codes are hard to scan on CRT monitors.[08:26:00] <DHowett> o_O[08:26:12] <DHowett> Only at low resolutions.[08:26:39] <Premislaus> 1024x768[08:26:57] <Premislaus> screen flickers[08:27:28] <augiedoggie> use better decoding software[08:27:46] <augiedoggie> my phone never had a problem with my old monitor[08:28:15] *** stargater has joined #haiku[08:28:31] <Premislaus> Can write the QR code in the directory where is the syslog?[08:28:57] <augiedoggie> uh, KDL pauses the system[08:29:14] <DHowett> Premislaus: the whole point of the QR code is for when you fall into Kernel Debug Lang. You're not going to get a syslog on-disk from that, and you're definitely not going to get a QR code there either.[08:29:22] <DHowett> Land*[08:29:32] <DHowett> also, what if you're in KDL because of a filesystem driver failure?[08:29:35] <DHowett> ;)[08:29:47] <stargater> moin family ;-)[08:30:45] <stargater> who uses everything at his computer haiku?[08:31:55] <mmadia> DHowett -- the recent commit is for generating a QR code from within KDL.[08:32:05] *** rimio has joined #haiku[08:33:10] <Premislaus> It would be nice if it had been an application for Andorid. Program, which will decode the QR Code and send reports on Trac. Automatically create a ticket.[08:33:40] <augiedoggie> right, because there aren't enough duplicate tickets already[08:36:40] <stargater> Premislaus a Adnroid app? can you give me mor details?[08:38:45] *** XenoDuck has quit IRC[08:40:33] *** mmadia has quit IRC[08:42:31] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[08:43:05] <Premislaus> stargater: 1. Displays the KDL![08:43:07] <Premislaus> 2. Scan with the smartphone.[08:43:09] <Premislaus> 3. Program decodes the QR code.[08:43:11] <Premislaus> 4. Asks whether to send automatic bug report.[08:43:13] <Premislaus> 5. Program stores the username and password for Trac.[08:43:15] <Premislaus> 6. If possible, it searches the buglist, it checks if it is a duplicate. Adds a syslog to a similar error.[08:43:30] <Premislaus> sorry for my english[08:43:46] <Premislaus> *if is[08:44:25] <stargater> my english is badly too :-)[08:44:27] <Premislaus> app for android, ios, windows mobile, etc.[08:44:47] <Premislaus> Haiku Mobile :P[08:45:29] <stargater> too point 2. Haiku KDL puts a qr code ? or mean you make a photo with the android phone?[08:45:43] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[08:46:04] <Premislaus> yes[08:46:22] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[08:46:28] <stargater> need haiku this ? are you a developer ?[08:46:42] <Premislaus> i am not a developer[08:47:29] <Premislaus> A friend said, that it would be cool.[08:48:28] <stargater> but you can make photo and open the website of trac and add a new report[08:49:00] <stargater> and former look other bug report[08:49:20] *** carter_ has joined #haiku[08:49:36] *** carter has quit IRC[08:49:39] <stargater> Premislaus have you a runnig haiku at time?[08:50:40] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[09:00:09] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:01:57] <Premislaus> currently not[09:06:25] <stargater> is the local kit final ?[09:10:37] <PulkoMandy> no, a lot of things are not finished[09:10:53] <PulkoMandy> the APIs that already work should not move to much, but we need to add a lot more[09:19:32] <stargater> PulkoMandy: ahh the father of LocalKit :-) hi[09:20:14] <stargater> PulkoMandy: "add a lot more" have you a list what is need too[09:31:17] <PulkoMandy> not really[09:31:29] <PulkoMandy> I remember a big part of the API has no implementation at all[09:31:40] <PulkoMandy> in the area of number formatting for example[09:32:02] <PulkoMandy> even the string stuff likely still have problems with complex plural rules[09:32:31] <PulkoMandy> for example in polish I think there are different plurals for 2, "multiple-of-five", and others[09:32:35] <PulkoMandy> or something like that[09:32:52] <PulkoMandy> or maybe it was for "some" and "many"[09:33:05] <PulkoMandy> and we have no way to do that with the current system[09:33:28] <PulkoMandy> the font overlay is not working properly as well, so you have to switch fonts by hand to use chinese[09:33:40] <PulkoMandy> (they use the same chars as japanese, but write them in a different wayà[09:34:18] <PulkoMandy> parsing API needs to be done as well[09:34:43] <PulkoMandy> (we have a ParseDate function for the find panel that works only for english dates)[09:34:52] <PulkoMandy> this one is a big project on its own[09:35:09] <PulkoMandy> the current version can recognize things such as "yesterday" or "two month ago"[09:35:21] <PulkoMandy> which is not easy to do in a localized way[09:35:38] <PulkoMandy> right-to-left text is also missing[09:39:31] *** orbital_fox has joined #haiku[09:44:11] <stargater> uha but localkit is using in haiku?[09:47:25] <stargater> zetas local kit whas a minimal lical kit but its work and can easy add[09:49:47] <PulkoMandy> yes, you can use the minimal part like this[09:50:09] <PulkoMandy> but it is not enough for some advanced uses[09:53:45] <stargater> yes we have add onto yab but some problems with haiku rev version.[09:54:02] <stargater> some user have alpha3 and some rev xyz[09:54:26] <stargater> and haiku have verry long time part to release versions[09:55:29] *** jjido has joined #haiku[09:56:13] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[09:57:42] <PulkoMandy> yes, we are trying to get alpha 4 out[09:58:06] <PulkoMandy> well, one year is not that much, Windows XP stayed for almost 10 years and no one complains :)[09:58:16] <PulkoMandy> the problem is Haiku is changing too fast :)[09:59:39] <PulkoMandy> but, Locale Kit is an experimental feature, so yes, we may change the API if we thing it's needed[10:06:24] <stargater> i hate windows[10:06:38] <stargater> i love haiku[10:07:05] <stargater> i hate my lenovo why he cant boot haiku[10:20:35] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[10:29:12] *** kcj has quit IRC[10:37:30] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[10:37:32] *** jjido has quit IRC[10:41:12] *** kcj has joined #haiku[10:53:29] *** jpfn has joined #haiku[10:56:30] *** joppefan has quit IRC[10:56:30] *** jpfn is now known as joppefan[10:57:35] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[10:59:30] *** rimio_ has joined #haiku[10:59:36] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[11:01:02] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[11:02:53] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[11:03:17] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[11:03:46] *** Jessica_Lily has joined #haiku[11:03:46] *** Jessica_Lily has joined #haiku[11:05:32] *** _marc` has quit IRC[11:07:06] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[11:09:02] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[11:11:20] *** rimio has quit IRC[11:11:31] *** rimio has joined #haiku[11:17:10] <arfunzu> ahoy mateys, happy Canada day! :)[11:20:00] *** stargater has quit IRC[11:23:07] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[11:26:29] *** jjido has joined #haiku[11:31:10] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[11:50:11] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[11:56:05] *** jjido has quit IRC[11:56:08] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[12:15:45] *** carter_ has quit IRC[12:16:05] *** carter_ has joined #haiku[12:22:00] *** leszek has joined #haiku[12:43:41] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[12:51:31] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[12:59:39] *** hagor has joined #haiku[13:01:11] *** leszek has quit IRC[13:01:25] <hagor> I discovered bug. When copying from FAT32 to haiku native partition, action slows down very much[13:01:55] <hagor> It displays speed at about 60 kB/s[13:06:37] *** jjido has joined #haiku[13:10:58] *** jjido has quit IRC[13:11:36] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[13:11:43] *** _marc` has quit IRC[13:15:29] *** jimage has quit IRC[13:18:12] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:18:12] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:18:59] <arfunzu> hagor: is this similar? http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8022[13:19:14] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:19:14] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:19:17] <arfunzu> check humdinger's comment #3.[13:19:30] *** synchris has quit IRC[13:19:54] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:19:54] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:20:58] *** synchris has quit IRC[13:21:26] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:21:55] *** synchris has quit IRC[13:22:22] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:22:23] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:23:20] <diver_> http://haikuware.ru/files/office/TFO4.0.zip ThinkFree Office, unpack to /boot[13:23:29] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:23:29] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:28:27] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:32:28] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[13:46:51] *** _marc` has quit IRC[13:49:58] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[13:50:53] *** hagor has quit IRC[13:52:09] *** XenoDuck has quit IRC[14:03:17] *** jimage has joined #haiku[14:06:41] *** Barrett has quit IRC[14:07:38] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[14:15:59] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[14:31:07] *** Cobi has quit IRC[14:31:25] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[14:33:20] *** orbital_fox has quit IRC[14:33:43] *** jjido has joined #haiku[14:38:03] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:39:10] *** Huggy has joined #haiku[14:40:18] *** markos_ has quit IRC[14:41:10] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[14:49:17] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[14:54:11] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[14:58:21] <johnny_b> hello[15:03:07] *** Hubert^^_ has joined #haiku[15:03:16] *** jjido has quit IRC[15:05:33] *** Hubert^^ 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corrupted text when writing[16:29:39] <diver_> very well could be[16:31:37] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[16:33:14] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[16:33:37] *** mrsun_ has joined #haiku[16:35:59] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[16:37:39] *** mrsun_ has quit IRC[16:43:18] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[16:48:19] *** carter__ has joined #haiku[16:48:23] *** carter_ has quit IRC[16:49:25] *** hagor has quit IRC[16:50:00] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[16:58:44] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[17:05:09] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[17:11:24] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[17:11:38] *** PasNox has quit IRC[17:12:01] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[17:18:03] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[17:27:11] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[17:27:41] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[17:29:49] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:30:30] *** orbital_fox has joined #haiku[17:37:49] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[17:38:00] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[17:47:38] *** Hubert^^ has quit 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commits][18:49:12] <CIA-63> StreamInRange checks if a file stream is inside a range[18:49:12] <CIA-63> MoveStream moves blocks as necessary for the stream to fit in a range[18:51:40] *** robert_negro has joined #haiku[18:52:50] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[19:04:31] *** Stephane3 has joined #haiku[19:04:40] <Stephane3> Hi everybody,[19:05:23] <CIA-63> haiku.master: mmlr * hrev44277 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=e0ef5b2 : Allow aborting the command while QR codes are generated. [2 commits][19:07:05] *** Hubert^^_ has joined #haiku[19:07:33] *** Hubert^^_ has quit IRC[19:07:49] <CIA-63> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev44278 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=f437c10 :[19:07:49] <CIA-63> Small visual changes to left scroll view. Fixes #8659. [2 commits][19:07:49] <CIA-63> Fixed width of left scroll view.[19:07:49] <CIA-63> Added padding to list items.[19:07:49] <CIA-63> Thanks yourpalal for your hints.[19:09:45] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[19:09:56] <Stephane3> Keep on the good work guys. Good bye...[19:10:22] *** Stephane3 has quit IRC[19:10:40] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[19:13:24] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has quit IRC[19:20:11] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[19:28:59] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[19:36:36] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[19:37:21] <CIA-63> haiku.master: mmlr * hrev44279 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=2a80aba : Use a shorter URL and query to maximize payload space.[19:39:19] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[19:43:26] *** robert_negro has quit IRC[19:47:55] *** jjido has joined #haiku[19:48:04] *** mrsun_ has joined #haiku[19:52:34] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[19:53:58] *** Barrett has quit IRC[19:54:23] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[19:55:44] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[19:56:03] *** stef__ has joined #haiku[19:56:10] *** orbital_fox has quit IRC[19:58:03] *** stef has quit IRC[20:01:47] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[20:04:13] *** mrsun_ has quit IRC[20:07:40] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[20:13:01] *** Barrett has quit IRC[20:15:47] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[20:23:39] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has joined #haiku[20:29:09] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has quit IRC[20:29:18] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[20:30:58] *** jjido has quit IRC[20:33:10] <CIA-63> haiku.master: mmlr * hrev44280 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=5dc5dbb :[20:33:10] <CIA-63> Allow more chars to be sent unencoded and encode space as '+'. [2 commits][20:33:10] <CIA-63> While this produces not strictly valid query strings, it reduces the[20:33:10] <CIA-63> encoding overhead significantly.[20:39:11] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[20:43:57] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[20:47:09] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[20:47:47] *** jjido has joined #haiku[20:49:43] <mmadia> aw, come on humdinger -- it's a great song. :P[20:51:33] <humdinger> ...-saredws backei eyptI g nthiyreveles ipmoc aikuh eilhw[20:53:37] <humdinger> I have short freezes pegging the CPU when building :)[20:54:10] <augiedoggie> use a real OS :P[20:54:22] <humdinger> mmadia: the better the song the higher your fine.[20:54:28] *** cps1966 has joined #haiku[20:54:36] <johnny_b> augiedoggie: like?[20:54:43] <humdinger> augiedoggie: I hope it's the scheduler and will be fixed smeday[20:55:02] <humdinger> I could cross-compile from Linux.[20:55:27] <humdinger> But there the responsiveness is a constant annoyance :)[20:55:31] <augiedoggie> I was kidding(hence the :P), but I never do full builds in Haiku[20:56:03] <humdinger> doesn't take that long. maybe 20 minutes.[20:56:11] <augiedoggie> 6 in linux :P[20:56:15] <humdinger> on my machine...[20:56:34] <humdinger> I doubt it. (on my machine)[20:56:47] <augiedoggie> yeah, I'm on a quad-core with 8 gig of ram[20:56:58] <humdinger> arse! :P[20:57:02] <augiedoggie> I need an SSD though, then I could get it down to ~2[20:57:38] <humdinger> doesn't building stress an SSD too much over time?[20:57:51] <humdinger> Or maybe just to read the source, but generate on a HD?[20:58:26] <augiedoggie> I think modern ones have more read/write cycles in them[20:58:32] <mmadia> ramdisk ;)[20:58:38] <augiedoggie> and if the os supports TRIM and stuff[20:59:20] <humdinger> still... writing a billion files...[21:00:10] <augiedoggie> I know several devs who use them to build, like Rene[21:00:47] <augiedoggie> iirc, he can build from scratch in like 1.5 minutes[21:03:12] <humdinger> I doubt it... maybe I should ask the Yak itself...[21:03:53] *** jjido has quit IRC[21:03:59] <geist> what good is an SSD if you dont use em?[21:04:44] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[21:04:48] <humdinger> sure, but since I dunno how much it shortens its lifetime, I would not do it if it means a new SSD every 2 years[21:05:15] <geist> *shrug*[21:05:16] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[21:05:21] <cps1966> y they are cheap now[21:05:28] <geist> like i said, what good is it if you dont use it. it's fast, and you use it because it's fast[21:05:30] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[21:05:49] <geist> but to be fair, for source it probably doens't help too much. usually that sits in cache[21:07:28] <humdinger> maybe a question of attitude[21:08:54] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[21:09:30] *** dobroerlanger has joined #haiku[21:10:25] <PlkMndy> I have an SSD and I use it for my sources, so far it's working[21:10:41] <PlkMndy> they're likely to last longer than rotating hard disks anyway now[21:10:50] <PlkMndy> mechanical stuff wears out faster than you think[21:11:47] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[21:12:22] <humdinger> PlkMndy: If yours is still running at BeGeistert next year, I'll consider it for my next machine. :)[21:12:36] <humdinger> Which will come with Haiku R1 I promised myself.[21:13:09] <humdinger> So get cracking everyone, Daddy wants a new notebook.[21:13:10] <humdinger> .)[21:16:35] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[21:16:52] <mmadia> speaking of new machines, i'm dying to know how Haiku runs on the amd hudson based systems[21:18:16] <augiedoggie> I almost bought one[21:18:26] *** jjido has joined #haiku[21:19:11] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[21:21:33] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[21:23:03] *** jjido has quit IRC[21:29:22] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[21:33:39] *** Barrett has quit IRC[21:37:08] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[21:37:08] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[21:38:07] *** humdinger has quit IRC[21:43:47] *** jjido_ has quit IRC[21:46:22] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[21:52:54] *** markos_ has quit IRC[21:53:37] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[21:55:02] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[22:06:22] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[22:10:51] *** Gareth has quit IRC[22:11:17] *** Gareth has joined #haiku[22:23:49] *** stef__ is now known as stef[22:24:14] *** PlkMndy has quit IRC[22:34:21] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[22:34:23] <Premislaus> hi[22:39:27] <johnny_b> hello[22:41:04] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[22:43:22] <arfunzu> hey all[22:45:01] *** stpere has joined #haiku[22:45:32] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[22:48:07] *** XenoDuck has quit IRC[22:50:20] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[22:50:28] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[22:52:47] *** cps1966 has left #haiku[22:52:49] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[22:53:55] <stpere> heh.. I'm technically "contract-less" for a few weeks, but still working[22:54:13] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[22:54:21] <stpere> my contract ended today, I'm applying for a position, but working on that position meanwhile[23:00:47] *** Barrett has quit IRC[23:04:03] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[23:06:10] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[23:06:50] *** leszek has joined #haiku[23:09:49] *** jua_ has quit IRC[23:11:34] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[23:12:16] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[23:18:46] *** kcj has joined #haiku[23:19:25] <Premislaus> jua_ You working on an scheduler?[23:20:09] *** mrsun is now known as MrSunshine[23:25:37] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[23:32:52] *** leszek has quit IRC[23:38:18] *** petterhj has quit IRC[23:41:15] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[23:47:04] *** kcj has quit IRC[23:47:05] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[23:47:06] *** kcj_ has joined #haiku[23:48:33] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[23:49:12] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[23:55:35] *** orbital_fox has joined #haiku[23:57:21] *** vezhlys has quit IRC