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[00:08:49] <CIA-91> haiku.master: korli * hrev44272 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=342e3b2 :
[00:08:49] <CIA-91> Updated optional package for Freetype ppc.
[00:08:49] <CIA-91> * Fix the PPC build.
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[00:36:24] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #583 of powerpc-any-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/powerpc-any-host/builds/583
[00:40:52] <mmu_man> :)
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[02:02:14] <Archlyric> does that ppc build support imacs?
[02:02:25] <augiedoggie> it supports nothing
[02:02:46] <Archlyric> boot to crash? lol
[02:03:06] <augiedoggie> not even sure you can call it "boot"
[02:03:19] <augiedoggie> I don't recall where it fails, but it's not usable
[02:03:25] <Archlyric> hard to find any os that will boot on my imac g4 or my emac g4
[02:03:35] <Archlyric> imac g3*
[02:03:42] <Archlyric> just linux and i guess morphos
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[02:06:19] <Archlyric> you guys try zevenos?
[02:07:45] <Phosphenes> zevenos?
[02:08:02] <augiedoggie> a linux desktop with a beos theme
[02:08:07] <augiedoggie> (basically)
[02:08:12] <Phosphenes> :o
[02:08:27] <Archlyric> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zevenos
[02:08:42] <Archlyric> original creators of zeta i think
[02:08:48] <Archlyric> erm creator
[02:09:34] <Xeon3D> lol
[02:09:41] <Xeon3D> ZevenOS has nothing to with Zeta IIRC.
[02:11:11] <Archlyric> it used to say something about it on distrowatch a loong time ago
[02:11:40] <Phosphenes> Are you sure it was on Distrowatch?
[02:11:46] <Phosphenes> Are you sure it wasn't... nothing?
[02:11:56] <Archlyric> oh yes im sure
[02:12:06] <Phosphenes> jokes lol
[02:13:01] <Archlyric> ;)
[02:13:14] <Archlyric> it even has the old zeta logo lol
[02:13:15] <Phosphenes> <3
[02:14:15] <Archlyric> http://www.osnews.com/story/19359/Zebuntu_Debuts/
[02:14:20] <Archlyric> bernd
[02:14:48] <augiedoggie> they aren't the same thing
[02:14:58] <Phosphenes> :o
[02:15:36] <Phosphenes> influences it says, but not necessarily the same creators
[02:15:45] <Phosphenes> Not that I don't believe, I've never heard of it before :o
[02:15:55] <Phosphenes> don't believe you**
[02:16:06] <Archlyric> Bernd Korz is the zeta creator
[02:16:28] <Archlyric> people used to bash him on beshare all the time
[02:16:31] <Archlyric> haha
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[02:18:15] <Archlyric> im gunna try it just cause, maybe this blueEyedOS as well
[02:18:44] <augiedoggie> because you're on a mission to see the worst os'es of all time?
[02:19:21] <Phosphenes> lol
[02:27:37] <Archlyric> yep, and document it
[02:27:41] <Archlyric> lol
[02:32:10] <Xeon3D> InfernoOS
[02:32:11] <Xeon3D> Plan 9
[02:32:17] <Xeon3D> shall I name a few more?
[02:32:44] <augiedoggie> at least those were trying to innovate
[02:32:55] <Xeon3D> still crap in my book
[02:33:01] <Phosphenes> Why?
[02:33:20] <Phosphenes> Those were experimental OSs weren't they?
[02:33:40] <Phosphenes> Not really meant for regular desktop use as far as I know...
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[02:34:09] <Xeon3D> meh
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[05:05:36] <tidux> I noticed a small, silly bug in transmission-cli
[05:05:50] <tidux> the upload and download speeds are switched from what they're supposed to be
[05:06:04] <tidux> because there's no way I'm uploading at 150kbps to a seeder
[05:06:19] <helf> why?
[05:06:24] <helf> your upload isnt that fast?
[05:06:46] <tidux> no, because I only have 10% of the torrent, and my listed download speed is zero
[05:06:50] <helf> 150kbps is just ~19kb/s
[05:07:04] <tidux> but the torrent progress meter keeps increasing
[05:07:09] <helf> ah
[05:07:15] <helf> yeah, sounds wrong :p
[05:07:16] <tidux> so to all appearances it's downloading, not uploading
[05:07:17] <tidux> yes
[05:07:34] <tidux> I looked on dev.haiku-os.org but didn't see a component for Transmission
[05:07:38] <tidux> thought I'd mention it here
[05:07:38] <Phosphenes> or maybe you have initial seeding enabled?
[05:07:52] <tidux> nope
[05:07:52] <augiedoggie> ports have their own site
[05:07:56] <Phosphenes> ic
[05:07:58] <helf> hey augiedoggie
[05:08:06] <augiedoggie> howdy helf
[05:08:11] <helf> Phosphenes, it would still show a download speed higher than "0"
[05:08:17] <Phosphenes> :o
[05:08:19] <Phosphenes> that's true.
[05:08:36] <tidux> 0.00 KiB/s at that
[05:09:07] <tidux> not even a rounding error - I get more download speed than that just trying to talk DHT to the peers
[05:10:30] <augiedoggie> i see a couple bugs in the transmission trac that could be related
[05:10:40] <augiedoggie> might just need an update to a newer version
[05:10:55] <tidux> I'm on hrev44242
[05:10:59] <tidux> newer than that?
[05:11:09] <augiedoggie> transmission
[05:11:13] <augiedoggie> not haiku
[05:11:23] <tidux> ah
[05:11:41] <tidux> will Transmission from upstream build cleanly, or are there Haiku patches I need to apply?
[05:12:41] <augiedoggie> looking...
[05:13:22] <augiedoggie> there are patches in the ports repo
[05:13:35] <augiedoggie> http://ports.haiku-files.org/browser/haikuports/trunk/net-p2p/transmission
[05:13:57] <augiedoggie> they look pretty trivial
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[05:15:02] <tidux> I'm already on the newest version of Transmission with patches available
[05:15:38] <augiedoggie> newest in the ports repo, not newest version
[05:15:51] <augiedoggie> I'm saying a new version should be ported
[05:16:31] <tidux> ah
[05:18:04] <tidux> looking at the patches, what's <sys/select.h> do?
[05:18:08] <Archlyric> was reading that today actually
[05:19:37] <Archlyric> im trying to get quake 3 for beos to run on haiku
[05:20:05] <tidux> oh, just looks like file descriptor selection
[05:20:37] <tidux> hmm, maybe that would make certain other things work properly on Haiku
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[05:50:01] <Archlyric> think alot of the beos source went into these products? http://www.access-company.com/products/products_list.html
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[06:31:40] <Archlyric> anyone here know who used to run the domain name zelect.org ?
[06:32:36] <helf> ive never heard of that url..
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[06:35:51] <Archlyric> does mmadia hang out in here still?
[06:36:34] <helf> yes
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[06:37:54] <Archlyric> cool cause i think im looking for a guy named chaos, he hosted mmadia's old beos boot image site
[06:39:22] <Archlyric> http://web.archive.org/web/20070106145243/http://mmadia.zelect.org/files/boot_archive/
[06:39:30] <Archlyric> files still download lol
[06:39:57] <helf> its amazing how much of the web archive.org actually has archived
[06:40:04] <helf> i constantly use it to nab old files from dead sites
[06:42:37] <Archlyric> good find eh?
[06:42:52] <helf> its my favorite website on the internet
[06:43:06] <Archlyric> i wouldnt of found that if i didnt already remember it being talked about on beshare years ago
[06:43:14] <Archlyric> i found chaos's email too
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[06:44:49] <Archlyric> hopefully chaosdna at shaw dot ca still works
[06:45:36] <Archlyric> and for the life of me i cant remember looncraz's website
[06:45:46] <Archlyric> or else id throw it in the wayback machine
[06:46:22] <Archlyric> beoseh.neo-programmers.net/ :)
[06:46:33] <helf> looncraz is still around
[06:51:31] <Archlyric> phos was great lol
[06:53:18] <Archlyric> do you remember some kid named mr.x or beosmr x
[06:55:04] <helf> god
[06:55:06] <helf> I try not to
[06:56:14] <Archlyric> haha
[06:56:54] <Archlyric> quickfox? lol
[06:57:02] <helf> He was a giantdouchebag
[06:57:19] <helf> and quickfox was probably the only instance of beos "malware"
[06:57:25] <augiedoggie> heh
[06:58:26] <Archlyric> http://www.bebits.com/app/4450http://www.bebits.com/app/4450
[06:59:06] <Archlyric> http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/4909488/BeOS_r5.05_BONE <--- dont tell me this is his creation too
[07:00:35] <helf> its not
[07:00:53] <helf> I'm fairly positive he didnt know enough to rig up something like r5.05
[07:00:59] <helf> I actually ran 5.05 for a long time
[07:01:10] <helf> it had the feel of proper r5 with all the extra drivers and what not of zeta
[07:02:03] <Archlyric> i rmember hacking together something similar to run on my amd64 (similar to the athlonxp patch)
[07:03:09] <helf> I was lucky and had pretty much fully supported hardware all the time
[07:03:57] <helf> my dell GX1 sff seemed purpose built for BeOS. maxed out with a 1.4ghz tualatin p3, supported 768mb of ram which is the max unmodified r5 could handle, rage pro onboard gpu and SB audio
[07:04:04] <helf> and the nic was something r5 supported
[07:04:16] <helf> id probably still use that box some if it hadnt up and died one day
[07:05:32] <Archlyric> running r5 on an original p4, 768mb ram, and rage pro, cmedia audio. so it runs pretty good without patches :)
[07:06:00] <Archlyric> omg i just found a copy of the zeta 1.21 live cd
[07:07:32] <Archlyric> and phosb1 lol
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[11:49:02] <CIA-91> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 3f017e90611b6b53186f72bd9f6aa837d15e588a : Also need to fix the kernel_args_range addresses.
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[16:48:57] <CIA-91> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * c9f6d2271fc105de01b1359d66c5304c75bd396d : x86_64: Implemented exception handling. [5 commits]
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[17:34:42] <Luko> hi
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[17:36:10] <arfonzo> hi, Luko
[17:36:18] <Luko> hi arfonzo
[17:36:35] <Luko> i want buy sound card but i dont know ehat is good for haiku
[17:36:37] <Luko> ASUS XONAR DGX
[17:36:45] <Luko> or Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme
[17:36:55] <arfonzo> I'm not help there unfortunately. I only run it from a VM.
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[17:38:05] <arfonzo> Has anyone installed over a gcc4h environment with gcc2h? Does this work?
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[17:48:55] <CIA-91> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 0705884ac415022fb9c734da089fe3dd5a06873a : Style fixes.
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[18:28:55] <Luko> its posible to use in Haiku external USB dvdrw/cdrom ?
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[19:01:35] <tidux> if anyone's looking for more TTFs for Haiku
[19:01:46] <tidux> ftp://dorsal.ath.cx/pub/debian-ttfs.tar.gz
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[20:52:20] <Archlyric|> Lo
[20:52:35] <Archlyric|> Android irc apps are great :)
[20:53:03] <tidux> yeah
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[20:53:07] <tidux> I like yaaic myself
[20:53:12] <tidux> since it's open source
[20:53:21] <tidux> aicia is great if you have a physical keyboard
[20:55:07] <Archlyric|> I'm using andchat its not bad, I got the physical keyboard and touch
[20:55:30] <Archlyric|> Gunna try yaaic soon I think
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[20:57:54] * augiedoggie prefers androirc for the tablet interface
[20:58:36] <tidux> never had an Android tablet
[20:59:02] <Archlyric|> Speaking of tablets, wasn't the ever a be tablet?
[20:59:10] <Archlyric|> There*
[21:00:25] <tidux> no
[21:00:39] <tidux> tablet PCs didn't really exist until 2002
[21:00:46] <tidux> at which point BeOS was pretty dead
[21:00:53] <augiedoggie> technically mine isn't an android tablet, it just happens to also run android :P
[21:02:03] <tidux> touchpad?
[21:02:15] <augiedoggie> 2 of them ;)
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[21:05:06] <tidux> nice augiedoggie
[21:05:19] <tidux> you excited for open webos in september?
[21:05:34] <augiedoggie> mixed feelings
[21:05:48] <tidux> what's the downside?
[21:06:00] <augiedoggie> I like the way webos works, but it has a tough road ahead attracting app devs
[21:06:39] <Negr0_VoP2P> Archlyric|: http://www.geek.com/images/geeknews/aug00/beia_webpad.jpg there was :)
[21:07:11] <tidux> that looks so tacky and 90s
[21:07:20] <tidux> (although that may be redundant)
[21:09:50] <PulkoMandy> in the 90s it looked 2010s :)
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[21:12:04] <tidux> lol PulkoMandy
[21:13:02] <Archlyric|> Wow that looks so modern!
[21:13:30] <Negr0_VoP2P> knows some one if there is somewhere an BeShare vector grafic icon? I can't see this pixel icon in my deskbar anymore :P
[21:13:31] <Archlyric|> I want one
[21:14:09] <Archlyric|> Isn't there some on bebits? Maybe check deviantart
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[21:15:35] <Negr0_VoP2P> Archlyric| found it, thx
[21:17:54] <augiedoggie> zumi has several to choose from
[21:18:08] <augiedoggie> http://zumi.xoom.it/myhaiku/3rd%20party%20apps/index.html
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[22:59:14] <tidux> I've noticed that Terminal and FonzoTerm tend to cut off certain unicode characters
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[22:59:20] <tidux> and blank out the entire rest of the line
[22:59:26] <tidux> I can't figure out a pattern, though
[22:59:53] <tidux> I imported unifont.ttf from my Debian install so it's not a glyph coverage issue
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[23:01:54] <augiedoggie> I have trouble with bold
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[23:02:55] <tidux> testing
[23:03:09] <tidux> bold shows up as bright in FonzoTerm, just like on console
[23:03:14] <tidux> let me check Terminal
[23:03:27] <augiedoggie> I mean with the glyph being chopped off
[23:03:32] <tidux> oh, yeah
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