June 22, 2012 
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June 22, 2012 [00:00:41] *** dcase has quit IRC[00:03:09] *** Barrett has quit IRC[00:03:57] *** drshafiee has left #haiku[00:08:12] *** sambagirl has quit IRC[00:12:25] *** drshafiee has joined #haiku[00:12:30] *** orbital_fox has quit IRC[00:13:22] *** orbital_fox_ has quit IRC[00:22:07] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[00:27:33] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[00:27:59] *** tr-808 has joined #haiku[00:28:16] *** tr-808_ has joined #haiku[00:28:23] *** KapiX has left #haiku[00:31:32] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[00:32:13] *** [r4] has quit IRC[00:33:31] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[00:33:52] *** tr-808 has joined #haiku[00:37:06] *** dak has quit IRC[00:48:48] *** oco2 has quit IRC[00:53:54] *** redblue has quit IRC[00:57:23] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:06:48] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[01:11:38] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[01:14:54] *** drshafiee has left #haiku[01:20:38] *** Huggy has quit IRC[01:25:54] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[01:27:17] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[01:27:55] *** synchris has quit IRC[01:28:16] *** Nozy has quit IRC[01:35:43] *** redblue has joined #haiku[01:54:40] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[01:55:38] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[01:58:12] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[02:13:14] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[02:19:40] <Archlyric> how come nobody is on beshare anymore?[02:22:49] <[JJ]Albert> Not sure.[02:32:32] <CIA-64> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1947 /haikuports/trunk/dev-vcs/bzr/bzr-2.5.1.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1947 : Updated bzr to released version 2.5.1[02:41:41] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[02:45:26] *** tr-808_ has quit IRC[02:46:28] *** rimio_ has joined #haiku[02:46:35] *** rimio has quit IRC[02:49:56] *** bitkid_ has quit IRC[02:51:16] *** tr-808 has joined #haiku[02:52:46] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[02:53:19] <paul0> trying haiku again, it have wifi support now?[02:56:19] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[02:57:11] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[03:01:15] <hdanak> Archlyric: probably because nobody is on BeShare[03:05:32] <mmu_man> paul0: yes, though WPA2 is not much tested and requires an optional package[03:05:53] <paul0> cool, I've downloaded alpha 3 here, going to try now[03:06:38] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[03:11:19] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[03:22:45] <paul0> oh[03:23:18] <paul0> hm, looks like haiku installer is trying to boot on my HD[03:27:10] *** cb88 has joined #haiku[03:43:45] <paul0> downloading the nightly build to see if things work[03:43:57] <[JJ]Albert> kk[03:58:07] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[04:03:19] <CIA-64> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1948 /haikuports/trunk/packs/optionalpackages/optionalpackages-0.7-gcc2.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1948 : Updated the bzr and subversion versions in the gcc2 optionalpackages bep file.[04:04:05] <paul0> cool! The nightly build worked[04:05:07] <cb88> what was wrong with the regular build? just wouldn't boot?[04:06:01] <paul0> trying to boot from usb stick, but it couldn't find a bootable usb partition[04:06:10] <paul0> something related to my old bios, I guess[04:06:22] <paul0> fixed on the latest build, or earlier[04:06:44] <paul0> cb88: are you a developer?[04:07:08] <paul0> Found some other bug tickets about this, but couldn't login in the TRAC system to reply[04:07:12] <cb88> no just interested... I have an amd laptop that doesn't boot on recent builds[04:07:34] <paul0> why it doesn't build?[04:07:56] <cb88> the boot hangs... something with the usb controller IIRC[04:09:03] *** juaa_ has quit IRC[04:10:03] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[04:11:59] *** Animal-X has joined #haiku[04:14:43] <paul0> cb88: did you reported this to the bug tracker?[04:15:44] <cb88> I did quite awhile ago.. probably I need to update the ticket with the current status[04:15:47] <paul0> cool, haiku installed, now I need to install the wifi support[04:16:13] <cb88> which wifi card?[04:58:09] *** hamishm_ has quit IRC[05:02:35] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[05:04:58] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[05:06:53] *** Bryanstein has quit IRC[05:07:55] *** cb88 has quit IRC[05:09:15] *** Bryanstein has joined #haiku[05:10:12] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[05:12:23] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[05:13:21] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[05:18:12] *** Animal-X has quit IRC[05:21:58] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[05:23:26] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[05:41:14] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[06:05:00] *** paul0 has quit IRC[06:08:19] *** raining_ has joined #haiku[06:11:20] *** raining_ has left #haiku[06:13:30] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[06:36:35] <helf> hola[06:36:47] <augiedoggie> shazoo[06:37:37] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[06:47:38] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[06:49:16] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[06:49:16] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[06:49:46] <geist> shazbot[06:54:20] <helf> sup GeekShadow[06:54:23] <helf> geist even[06:58:58] <kcj> Hello helf.[06:59:02] <helf> yo[06:59:11] <kcj> Anything to report?[06:59:45] <[JJ]Albert> I am alive.[07:00:08] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, y'mean about Haiku. NVM...[07:00:14] <[JJ]Albert> >_<[07:01:02] <helf> ha[07:01:05] <helf> no, not really :p[07:02:18] <kcj> Aw.[07:03:10] <[JJ]Albert> :([07:07:34] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[07:08:41] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[07:10:06] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[07:11:03] <helf> kcj, how about you?[07:11:19] <helf> anything interesting in the country with some of the most gorgeous scenery known to man[07:11:21] <helf> ?[07:11:40] <kcj> Well, it's been pretty cold.[07:11:52] <[JJ]Albert> Where?[07:12:02] <kcj> Not much to report otherwise. :/[07:12:14] <kcj> [JJ]Albert, NZ.[07:12:15] <[JJ]Albert> Every country has beautiful scenery, if you look hard enough.[07:12:17] <[JJ]Albert> Oh.[07:12:18] <[JJ]Albert> KK[07:14:09] <helf> [JJ]Albert, i know[07:14:16] <helf> i said it has some of the most gorgeous[07:14:26] <helf> NZ is freaking beautiful[07:14:31] <[JJ]Albert> Er, yeh.[07:14:55] <[JJ]Albert> I watched that movie called Braindead from NZ.[07:15:08] <[JJ]Albert> Does that count as beautiful scenery?[07:15:09] <helf> hahahah that is awesome[07:15:12] <helf> i love that movie[07:15:15] <helf> and no it doesnt[07:15:28] <[JJ]Albert> xD[07:15:38] <[JJ]Albert> "I kick ass for the lord!"[07:17:35] <[JJ]Albert> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MfkHkdu5IEI#t=22s[07:18:26] <[JJ]Albert> xD[07:18:32] <[JJ]Albert> You can[07:18:45] <[JJ]Albert> 't tell me that isn't the loveliest choreography ever?[07:19:25] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[07:20:35] <helf> i love that movie[07:20:39] <helf> havent seen it in years thouh[07:22:21] <[JJ]Albert> Yeh, it was pretty twisted.[07:24:00] <[JJ]Albert> Peter Jackson definitely made a name for himself.[07:24:36] <[JJ]Albert> First as an awesome splatstick director, then as an epic film director.[07:25:03] <[JJ]Albert> Although to be fair, I never watched LOTR all the way through to remember it all that well.[07:26:18] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[07:30:09] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[07:30:45] <helf> they are pretty good[07:30:55] <helf> i was "blown away" when i first saw them[07:31:04] <[JJ]Albert> Yeh, from what I remember they were.[07:31:10] <helf> but... the CGI hasnt aged well AT ALL and a lot of hte acting is awful[07:31:18] <[JJ]Albert> Lol[07:31:36] <helf> the guy that played strider is fucking terrible and whats his name[07:31:41] <helf> the guy that plays frodo[07:31:43] <[JJ]Albert> The Frighteners.[07:31:44] <helf> i want to punch[07:31:47] <[JJ]Albert> Lol[07:31:49] <[JJ]Albert> The Frighteners.[07:31:50] <helf> frighteners is awesome[07:31:59] <[JJ]Albert> That had, uh, michael j fox.[07:32:05] <[JJ]Albert> The parkinsons marty guy.[07:34:10] <helf> yeah[07:35:17] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[08:01:22] *** Habstinat has quit IRC[08:10:10] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[08:29:27] *** jjido has joined #haiku[08:30:59] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[08:35:05] *** Xcyish has joined #haiku[08:40:43] *** redblue has quit IRC[08:49:20] *** aldeck has joined 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[2 commits][13:50:04] *** TimKack has joined #haiku[13:50:58] *** ddewbofh has joined #haiku[13:51:10] <ddewbofh> Ave[13:51:36] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[13:52:32] <ddewbofh> Any Webkit or Python gurus around?[13:55:18] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[13:58:56] *** jjido has quit IRC[14:02:14] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[14:04:03] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:04:19] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[14:04:31] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[14:05:19] *** kcj has quit IRC[14:09:03] *** swarfega|away is now known as swarfega[14:10:05] *** robert_negro has left #haiku[14:11:58] *** aldeck has quit IRC[14:14:19] *** Spelln is now known as jimage[14:18:48] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[14:26:28] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[14:32:00] *** Xeon3D|Zzz is now known as Xeon3D[14:36:22] *** OmniMancer1 has joined #haiku[14:38:09] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[14:39:34] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[14:40:49] *** KapiX has left #haiku[14:41:40] *** ddewbofh has quit IRC[14:48:55] <CIA-64> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 474aa3b76e4c661c259e2200db895712ded3f9d6 : Added ELF64 headers, common ELF32 and ELF64 definitions moved to elf_common.h.[14:51:59] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[14:55:02] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[15:04:12] *** adev has quit IRC[15:06:37] <kallisti5> Hmm. Porting a beos app, it's creating some static memory that seems to be causing issues on Haiku[15:06:47] <kallisti5> http://pastebin.com/hXAGdKAw << pretty much that[15:07:13] <kallisti5> seems like a strange location "DR_EMULATOR_BASE"[15:09:44] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[15:14:50] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[15:18:54] *** [aspirin] has quit IRC[15:19:36] *** HaikuUser has left #haiku[15:19:50] *** [aspirin] has joined #haiku[15:21:37] *** Megaf has quit IRC[15:24:03] *** rimio_ has quit IRC[15:24:10] *** rimio_ has joined #haiku[15:32:25] *** robert_negro has joined #haiku[15:35:36] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[15:40:43] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[15:42:13] *** Megaf has quit IRC[16:00:35] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[16:01:42] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[16:08:32] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[16:19:44] *** kag_anil_ has quit IRC[16:19:45] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[16:36:24] *** _marc` has quit IRC[16:38:07] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[16:47:47] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[16:55:08] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[16:58:13] *** TimKack has quit IRC[17:12:33] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[17:14:35] *** Negr0_VoP2P_LMin has quit IRC[17:15:07] *** Barrett has quit IRC[17:26:20] *** rimio_ has quit IRC[17:36:03] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[17:43:36] *** dcase has quit IRC[17:49:13] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[17:55:41] *** dcase has joined #haiku[18:01:19] *** lorglas has quit IRC[18:04:50] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[18:09:22] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[18:14:47] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[18:15:57] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:19:54] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[18:20:32] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[18:23:47] *** _marc` has quit IRC[18:29:37] *** yongcong has quit IRC[18:32:29] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[18:38:10] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[18:39:21] *** Xcyish has quit IRC[18:40:21] *** hdanak has quit IRC[18:47:33] *** Bryanstein has quit IRC[18:49:17] *** Bryanstein has joined #haiku[18:52:42] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[18:53:47] *** Bryanstein has quit IRC[18:55:02] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[18:57:21] *** humdinger has quit IRC[18:58:07] *** Habstinat has joined #haiku[19:01:17] *** Bryanstein has joined #haiku[19:06:04] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[19:07:46] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[19:16:05] *** Bryanstein has quit IRC[19:17:47] *** Bryanstein has joined #haiku[19:17:48] *** Hiryu has quit IRC[19:20:18] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[19:29:33] *** tqh has joined #haiku[19:32:05] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:46:29] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[19:49:42] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[20:01:30] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[20:11:12] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[20:18:49] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[20:19:19] *** OmniMancer1 has quit IRC[20:19:26] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[20:26:55] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[20:42:50] *** robert_negro has quit IRC[20:48:59] <CIA-64> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * f1244978152350f9cc010e766d09c2e9ad34dfce : (log message trimmed)[20:48:59] <CIA-64> Added an ELF64 version of preloaded_image. [2 commits][20:48:59] <CIA-64> * There is now 2 structures, preloaded_elf32_image and preloaded_elf64_image,[20:48:59] <CIA-64> which both inherit from preloaded_image.[20:48:59] <CIA-64> * For now I've just hardcoded in use of preloaded_elf32_image, but the[20:48:59] <CIA-64> bootloader ELF code will shortly be converted to use templates which use[20:49:00] <CIA-64> the appropriate structure. The kernel will be changed later when I add[20:51:27] *** DebianTUX has joined #haiku[20:52:43] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[20:53:01] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[20:58:19] *** DebianTUX has quit IRC[21:05:16] *** DebianTUX has joined #haiku[21:08:34] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[21:15:00] *** KapiX has left #haiku[21:18:42] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[21:19:04] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[21:23:52] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[21:25:27] *** carter has quit IRC[21:25:32] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[21:25:46] *** carter has joined #haiku[21:26:54] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[21:27:16] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[21:38:51] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[21:47:26] *** leszek has joined #haiku[21:47:48] <leszek> hi[21:48:00] <[JJ]Albert> hi[21:48:56] <CIA-64> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 3a2a3367dc9bec2a5fbcd4ac849da6ac65e74e79 : Support static_cast on FixedWidthPointer.[21:56:01] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[22:11:06] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[22:14:18] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[22:24:30] *** Barrett has quit IRC[22:26:50] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[22:27:33] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[22:32:12] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[22:33:12] *** datadigger has quit IRC[22:34:01] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[22:36:02] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[22:36:24] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[22:41:29] *** andrecurvello has joined #haiku[22:43:30] *** datadigger has joined #haiku[22:51:17] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[23:00:58] *** jimage has quit IRC[23:01:32] *** jimage has joined #haiku[23:04:08] *** tidux has joined #haiku[23:04:17] <tidux> I just saw the quarter term reports[23:04:29] <tidux> very impressive stuff, especially the OpenJDK port![23:06:11] <[JJ]Albert> Kewl.[23:06:26] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega|away[23:06:56] <[JJ]Albert> OpenJDK will push haiku right along.[23:07:31] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[23:12:36] <tidux> indeed it will[23:13:10] <[JJ]Albert> Even if I personally believe Java sucks. It has tremendous amounts of software made for it.[23:13:30] <[JJ]Albert> Therefore, even if you hate something, you support it until it becomes obsolete.[23:13:44] <[JJ]Albert> Or redundant.[23:13:46] <tidux> it's incredibly relevant for me[23:13:54] <tidux> since I have another semester of Java for my CS course work[23:13:59] <[JJ]Albert> Yep, and that's why it's still useful.[23:14:07] <[JJ]Albert> It has such a foothold.[23:14:28] <tidux> it would kick so much butt if I could just waltz in to class on September 1 with a Haiku laptop and hack right along with the Linux and OS X users[23:14:38] <[JJ]Albert> Totally.[23:14:55] <[JJ]Albert> Take in an older laptop w/ haiku. ;)[23:15:00] <tidux> of course, I might want to put it on a slightly more powerful machine than the netbook I've got running it now[23:15:09] <[JJ]Albert> Oh.[23:15:10] <[JJ]Albert> :p[23:15:18] <tidux> codec wise, the OS is capable of playing 720p x264 video just fine[23:15:22] <tidux> but the GPU can't keep up[23:15:47] <tidux> and then of course there's the periodic attempts by the routing table and/or DNS system to curl up into a ball and die[23:15:48] <tidux> :/[23:15:56] <[JJ]Albert> hardware rendering still needs some work, I see,[23:16:08] <tidux> nah, that thing can't play 720p under Debian either[23:16:26] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, kk.[23:16:33] <[JJ]Albert> So is opengl working yet?[23:17:18] <tidux> I can get >60FPS in glteapot with one teapot :P[23:17:33] <[JJ]Albert> Well, that[23:17:37] <[JJ]Albert> is not bad[23:17:40] <[JJ]Albert> not great[23:17:43] <[JJ]Albert> but not bad.[23:17:44] <tidux> and there's no corresponding spike on the CPU load applet, so I'm pretty sure it's on the GPU[23:17:49] <tidux> this is a GMA3150[23:17:56] <[JJ]Albert> Yeh.[23:18:03] <tidux> one of the worst GPUs of the past five years for performance, but among the best for driver support[23:18:09] <[JJ]Albert> GMA 3150 is a surprisingly bad GPU.[23:18:23] <[JJ]Albert> Even worse than it's older bro, the 3100.[23:18:38] <[JJ]Albert> Which is what my 1525 has.[23:18:44] <[JJ]Albert> Inspiron 1525.[23:18:53] <tidux> my Haiku machine is an Eee PC 1005PE[23:19:04] <tidux> Atheros wifi and ethernet, which is always a plus on open source systems[23:19:08] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, well I'm not running Haiku yet.[23:19:11] <tidux> lol[23:19:19] <[JJ]Albert> Regardless of what ppl tell me, I just like to wait.[23:19:26] <tidux> this is my main system right now[23:19:27] <[JJ]Albert> I prefer to wait.[23:19:46] <tidux> http://dorsal.ath.cx:81/img/kde-wheezy.png[23:19:57] <tidux> ^ that's my main system, not the Haiku netbook[23:20:00] <[JJ]Albert> Xubuntu works fine on my 1525. I can play some fps games and such.[23:20:02] *** humdinger has quit IRC[23:20:12] <tidux> that netbook has always been a screw-around-with-obscure-operating-systems machine[23:20:22] <tidux> so having one that works as well as Haiku is a welcome change[23:20:43] <[JJ]Albert> Kewl, you used irssi.[23:20:55] <tidux> yep[23:20:58] <tidux> still using it now[23:21:02] <tidux> on ARM, actually[23:21:03] <tidux> Hostname: plug - OS: Linux 2.6.38-bpo.2-kirkwood/armv5tel - CPU: - Processes: 71 - Uptime: 48d 6h 19m - Load Average: 0.02 - Memory Usage: 100.60MB/503.23MB (19.99%) - Disk Usage: 2.89GB/4.20GB (68.75%)[23:21:10] <[JJ]Albert> Kewl.[23:21:13] <tidux> this is my sheevaplug server[23:21:18] <tidux> I keep irssi in a screen session on this thing[23:21:31] <tidux> as well as a couple of muttrc files to check my gmail and student email[23:21:41] <[JJ]Albert> So your main system is an arm board?[23:21:46] <tidux> and it hosts that screenshot I just posted[23:21:49] <tidux> lol pretty much[23:21:53] <[JJ]Albert> Panda?[23:21:58] <tidux> Sheevaplug[23:22:01] <[JJ]Albert> Oh. :p[23:22:03] <tidux> 1.2GHz ARMv5te[23:22:06] <tidux> 512MB RAM[23:22:08] <tidux> gigabit ethernet[23:22:16] <tidux> 4GB SDHC for storage/swap[23:22:42] <[JJ]Albert> The OS is again?[23:22:48] <tidux> once I get a printer with decent drivers I'm going to hook it up to this thing and make it a print server in addition to web, ftp, ssh[23:22:50] <tidux> Debian Squeeze[23:22:54] <tidux> with a kernel from backports[23:23:00] <tidux> Linux plug 2.6.38-bpo.2-kirkwood #1 Tue May 3 17:55:57 UTC 2011 armv5tel GNU/Linux[23:23:03] <[JJ]Albert> Kewl.[23:23:05] <tidux> yeah[23:23:21] <[JJ]Albert> I won't lie, I am jelly.[23:23:27] <[JJ]Albert> So jelly.[23:23:29] <tidux> don't be, they're only $99 plus shipping[23:23:30] <[JJ]Albert> :([23:23:33] <tidux> you can get one yourself[23:23:33] <[JJ]Albert> Oh.[23:23:34] <[JJ]Albert> Kk[23:23:43] <tidux> but thanks :D[23:23:44] <[JJ]Albert> I just bought parts for my new computer.[23:24:00] <[JJ]Albert> I got an AMD APU Llano 2.66 GHz[23:24:12] <tidux> I remember, you showed me the newegg link[23:24:15] <[JJ]Albert> And some gigabyte mobo[23:24:18] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, right.[23:24:32] <[JJ]Albert> Forgive me, I'm like 10 second tom from 20 first dates.[23:24:39] <tidux> it's ok[23:24:46] <[JJ]Albert> Hi, I'm tom.[23:24:47] <[JJ]Albert> :p[23:24:50] <tidux> I only remembered once you said Llano[23:24:54] <[JJ]Albert> Right[23:25:03] <[JJ]Albert> But yeh, I hope it'll do well.[23:25:13] <[JJ]Albert> Right now though, I've got a dilemma.[23:25:27] <tidux> oh noes[23:25:33] <[JJ]Albert> I want an OS that has decent up-to-date drivers; is fast enough for gaming.[23:25:33] *** bitkid has joined #haiku[23:25:48] <[JJ]Albert> And uses XFCE.[23:25:52] <[JJ]Albert> So, linux mint?[23:26:32] <tidux> Mint Xfce is great[23:26:49] <tidux> it's based on Debian Testing these days, because Debian Testing gets new Xfce releases much faster than Ubuntu[23:26:53] <[JJ]Albert> Yeh, I've been thinking so too.[23:27:05] <[JJ]Albert> How is the update system, you think?[23:27:05] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:27:06] <tidux> it's the same OS underneath as that screenshot I posted - Debian Testing[23:27:12] <tidux> how's the update system?[23:27:13] <tidux> dude[23:27:16] <tidux> it's Debian[23:27:21] <[JJ]Albert> Lol. :p[23:27:23] <tidux> plus, it's rolling release[23:27:27] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, kk.[23:27:31] <tidux> since it tracks Testing instead of a release name[23:27:40] <[JJ]Albert> Righto.[23:27:51] *** KapiX has left #haiku[23:27:59] <[JJ]Albert> Also, I think I'll go AMD64.[23:28:08] <[JJ]Albert> Which is prolly the best.[23:28:20] <[JJ]Albert> Especially since I got more than 2 gigs of ram.[23:28:31] <tidux> yes[23:28:37] <[JJ]Albert> 4 gigs. I wasn't willing to get the slower 8 gigs max.[23:28:51] <[JJ]Albert> And[23:28:58] <[JJ]Albert> I like to use little ram.[23:29:04] <tidux> unlike Windows, the slight RAM overhead from larger pointers and the incompatibility of int and pointer are the only downsides to 64-bit[23:29:09] <[JJ]Albert> I will kill any ram suckers when I need to.[23:31:27] <[JJ]Albert> Er, where's this rolling release xfce mint of which you speak?[23:32:26] <[JJ]Albert> http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1979[23:32:32] <[JJ]Albert> Is that it?[23:32:40] *** andrecurvello has quit IRC[23:37:11] <tidux> [JJ]Albert: it's just Mint Xfce[23:37:54] <[JJ]Albert> Right, but I'm noticing a couple versions.[23:38:06] <[JJ]Albert> One based off ubuntu, then the rolling release one.[23:38:17] <[JJ]Albert> I wanna make sure I get the right one.[23:40:56] <[JJ]Albert> Oh wait, nvm.[23:41:00] <[JJ]Albert> I figured it out.[23:42:52] <[JJ]Albert> I am getting the 64bit lmde xfce 201204 iso via torrent.[23:42:57] <[JJ]Albert> Thanks, tidux.[23:43:20] <[JJ]Albert> I will probably enjoy mint. I used the gnome version a while back on usb.[23:43:26] <[JJ]Albert> It was nice.[23:44:39] <[JJ]Albert> Woah, my connection is doing very well today. The download will be done in a little bit. :)[23:45:09] <[JJ]Albert> I'll be around. Gonna go do some annoying chores. :[23:45:11] <[JJ]Albert> p:p[23:45:13] <[JJ]Albert> :p[23:45:15] <[JJ]Albert> lol[23:45:54] <[JJ]Albert> Oh yeah. I forgot. My DVD-R's are at home. :p[23:46:01] <[JJ]Albert> Oh well, at least I got the iso.[23:51:29] *** leszek has quit IRC[23:53:12] *** bbjimmy-at-home has joined #haiku[23:55:35] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[23:55:36] *** bbjimmy-at-home is now known as bbjimmy[23:56:58] <[JJ]Albert> Ah good, the iso is done.[23:57:17] <[JJ]Albert> Now, it'll just sit and take up space while I wait for my parts to arrive.[23:57:43] <[JJ]Albert> I should also motivate myself to get my old case ready for the new mobo. The old mobo in it is dead so I'll just throw that puppy out.[23:58:54] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[23:58:54] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku