June 17, 2012 
< | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | >
June 17, 2012 [00:08:40] *** orbital_fox_ has quit IRC[00:08:47] *** orbital_fox has quit IRC[00:09:01] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[00:09:07] *** Tallefer has left #haiku[00:10:20] <CIA-64> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1936 /haikuports/trunk/dev-libs/libedit/ (libedit-20120601-3.0.bep patches/libedit-20120601-3.0.patch) http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1936 : Updated libedit tp 20120601-3.0[00:14:34] <CIA-64> HaikuPorts: augiedoggie * r1937 /haikuports/trunk/net-wireless/b43-fwcutter/ (b43-fwcutter-012.bep patches/ patches/b43-fwcutter-012.patch) http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1937 : Fix downloading/building/packaging for b43-fwcutter[00:14:43] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[00:20:36] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[00:20:43] *** jjido has quit IRC[00:21:25] <Anarchos> how to reset the git source to the last one ?[00:22:13] *** Huggy has quit IRC[00:27:01] *** XenoDuck has quit IRC[00:29:56] *** Stephane3 has joined #haiku[00:32:10] *** Stephane3 has quit IRC[00:38:47] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[00:38:52] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[00:39:04] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[00:40:52] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[00:42:22] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[00:57:45] *** KapiX has left #haiku[01:07:28] *** augiedoggie has quit IRC[01:10:16] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[01:20:14] <KapiX> how can I force jam to always build target? ALWAYS target_name; doesn't seem to work[01:21:28] *** el-kyu has joined #haiku[01:22:21] <KapiX> ok, got it[01:29:10] <twock> if I build haiku with an "install" jam target, is it likely to screw up something I already installed with ports on the previously built system?[01:29:37] <twock> I just realized something was missing and I don't want to go through the trouble of reinstalling the ports again[01:29:52] <twock> i guess i could script it though...[01:31:03] *** carter has joined #haiku[01:31:32] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[01:32:05] *** tr-808 has joined #haiku[01:32:20] *** tr-808_ has joined #haiku[01:36:14] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[01:36:19] *** tr-808_ has quit IRC[01:36:58] *** tr-808 has joined #haiku[01:50:43] *** js has quit IRC[01:51:00] *** js has joined #haiku[01:58:07] *** synchris has quit IRC[01:59:38] *** carter has quit IRC[02:21:34] *** el-kyu has quit IRC[02:24:45] *** carter has joined #haiku[02:29:16] *** Barrettt__ has joined #haiku[02:29:38] *** Barrettt__ is now known as Barrett[02:31:30] *** Barrett has quit IRC[02:35:13] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[02:36:10] *** volci has joined #haiku[02:40:56] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[02:50:00] *** oco has quit IRC[02:51:30] *** carter has quit IRC[02:57:05] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[03:08:53] *** el-kyu has joined #haiku[03:10:46] *** el-kyu has quit IRC[03:13:15] *** el-kyu has joined #haiku[03:23:11] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[03:38:51] *** carter has joined #haiku[03:40:26] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[03:43:59] *** Barrett has quit IRC[03:45:11] *** carter has quit IRC[04:03:08] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[04:04:53] *** juaa_ has joined #haiku[04:04:58] *** jua_ has quit IRC[04:05:27] *** tr-808 has joined #haiku[04:09:47] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[04:25:22] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[04:25:28] *** HaikuUser is now known as Microbot[04:26:30] *** Microbot is now known as DudeWithPot[04:26:53] <DudeWithPot> cool[04:27:10] <DudeWithPot> &list[04:28:16] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[04:29:16] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[04:33:30] *** tidux|haiku has joined #haiku[04:33:46] <tidux|haiku> where's the up to date Qt port?[04:34:01] *** augiedoggie has joined #haiku[04:34:06] <tidux|haiku> I don't see anything newer than 2010 on the TiltOS site[04:55:17] *** tidux|haiku has quit IRC[04:59:44] *** tidux|haiku has joined #haiku[05:00:17] <tidux|haiku> wtf did I just do to my Deskbar? The leaf is only half width now and there's a chalkboard icon instead of my list of windows[05:00:20] <tidux|haiku> how do I fix that?[05:16:51] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[05:16:54] <tidux|haiku> arfonzo, where'd you stash libpoppler-qt4.so?[05:17:08] <tidux|haiku> I installed the development version of Qt 4.8 but Texmaker can't find it[05:18:25] <tidux|haiku> oh, and your page's link to the new qupzilla icon gives a 401 error[05:23:12] *** ablyss has left #haiku[05:29:56] *** DudeWithPot has quit IRC[05:31:08] *** yongcong has quit IRC[05:36:35] *** tidux|haiku has quit IRC[05:37:25] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[05:39:02] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[05:39:47] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[05:41:09] *** tidux has joined #haiku[05:41:54] *** mmadia has quit IRC[05:47:11] *** KapiX has left #haiku[05:49:31] <tidux> how do I change the location of the deskbar?[05:49:45] <tidux> I read the section of the bebook about it and it looks like it's just in "contracted" mode[05:49:52] <twock> you just grab the leaf icon and drag it[05:50:00] <tidux> not working[05:50:25] <tidux> it just opens a menu[05:50:43] <twock> hmm..then idk. sorry.[05:50:49] <tidux> stupid fucking trackpad drivers[05:50:55] <tidux> I'll go grab a USB mouse and try it[05:52:44] <tidux> same problem[05:53:03] <tidux> this is weird[05:53:10] <tidux> I know I accidentally did it an hour or so ago[05:53:13] <tidux> but I can't undo it[05:54:25] <kcj> tidux, There's a little grab to the right of the clock if you want to move the deskbar.[05:55:05] <tidux> aha[05:55:15] <tidux> that's glitching out[05:56:10] *** dcase has quit IRC[05:56:18] <tidux> as soon as I drag it it gives me a Debug popup[05:56:48] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[05:58:20] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[05:58:44] <tidux> ok, fixed it[05:58:57] <tidux> something got garbled in /boot/home/config/settings/Deskbar_settings[05:59:05] <tidux> deleting that and restarting Deskbar fixed it[06:06:24] <tidux> hmm, I'm getting that network lag again[06:06:33] <tidux> if I kill net_server will it resurrect on its own?[06:06:57] <tidux> let's find out[06:11:10] <tidux> nope, killing net_server and rerunning it doesn't solve the problem[06:11:17] <tidux> but a reboot does fix it[06:11:50] *** augiedoggie has quit IRC[06:16:36] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[06:25:39] *** Habstinat has joined #haiku[06:25:49] <Habstinat> are atheists allowed on this channel?[06:33:46] <mrsun> you know this is a channel about an operating system right? :)[06:33:48] <mrsun> not the poems :P[06:34:27] <kallisti5> whoo[06:34:31] * kallisti5 is a tired panda[06:34:58] <kallisti5> http://imagebin.org/216738[06:35:22] <kallisti5> http://imagebin.org/216739[06:35:38] <mrsun> yo kallisti5, any progress with the gallium stuff? :)[06:35:51] <kallisti5> I got side tracked :)[06:35:59] <mrsun> rpi ? :P[06:36:19] <kallisti5> kind of jumping around a bit atm[06:36:40] <kallisti5> I finally got sick of the Raspberry Pi MMU kicking my ass[06:37:06] <kallisti5> working on something for a few weeks straight without any progress it a good way to wear one out ;)[06:37:23] <mrsun> hehe =)[06:37:30] <mrsun> story of my life :P[06:37:36] <kallisti5> mrsun: I did get upstream commit access to Mesa / Gallium3d[06:37:43] <mrsun> cool =)[06:38:03] <kallisti5> and pushed one of my Haiku patches upstream. You can build stock mesa with only one patch and use it now[06:38:15] <kallisti5> *under haiku*[06:38:28] <mrsun> nice =)[06:38:43] <kallisti5> the one patch is unlikely to go away due to some policies at Mesa and how we are the strange duckling of it's usage[06:41:11] <mrsun> ough i wonder if the neighbours would be happy if i go out and start building at 06:45 on a sunday :P[06:41:32] <kallisti5> building as in compiling? :D[06:41:50] <helf> mrsun, use a jackhammer[06:41:53] <helf> I hear people lovethat[06:42:10] <mrsun> my guess is that it would start screming "kill the peon!" from every corner of the village and they comming with pitchforks etc chasing me off a ledge[06:42:15] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[06:42:29] <mrsun> kallisti5, building as in using power tools making alot of noise outside :P[06:42:45] <mrsun> hammering etc :P[06:42:47] <kallisti5> ah[06:43:38] <mrsun> god im tired[06:43:45] <mrsun> 4th night in a row with almost no sleep[06:44:03] <kallisti5> mrsun: I know how you feel[06:44:04] <mrsun> the only night with sleep i got from sleeping drops or whatever they are called ... and that made me hungover a whole day ...[06:44:44] *** swarfega|away has quit IRC[06:44:49] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[06:47:17] *** XenoDuck has quit IRC[06:47:40] *** swarfega has joined #haiku[06:49:25] <mrsun> i need to setup the stationary computer to get some relaxation (gaming) in the evenings i think =)[06:53:23] <tidux> not a bad idea[06:54:09] <tidux> I'm just trying to get pulkomandy's texlive port working on my install[06:55:02] <kallisti5> bbl[06:59:18] *** DudeWithPot has joined #haiku[06:59:53] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[07:06:11] *** DudeWithPot has quit IRC[07:08:26] *** el-kyu has quit IRC[07:17:20] *** DudeWithPot has joined #haiku[07:17:32] *** Habstinat has quit IRC[07:27:45] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[07:28:36] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[07:51:46] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[08:06:07] *** KapiX has left #haiku[08:08:12] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[08:22:35] *** diver_ has quit IRC[08:33:21] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[08:33:38] *** carter has joined #haiku[08:37:30] *** DudeWithPot has quit IRC[08:40:08] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[08:41:44] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[08:50:18] *** KapiX has left #haiku[08:54:08] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[08:55:45] *** yongcong has quit IRC[09:00:57] *** carter has quit IRC[09:20:50] *** adb has joined #haiku[09:20:57] *** carter has joined #haiku[09:25:16] *** augiedoggie has joined #haiku[09:26:43] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[09:28:46] *** synchris has joined #haiku[09:28:47] *** synchris has joined #haiku[09:40:53] *** adb has quit IRC[09:58:13] *** fhein has joined #haiku[10:14:29] *** diver_ has joined #haiku[10:18:58] *** jjido has joined #haiku[10:23:57] *** fhein has quit IRC[10:30:49] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[10:46:35] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[10:47:01] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[10:48:21] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[11:10:23] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[11:19:25] *** BitPuffin has left #haiku[11:24:27] *** dcase has joined #haiku[11:27:17] *** Learnin_Arel has joined #haiku[11:28:22] *** Winged_Arel has quit IRC[11:28:47] *** mrsun has quit IRC[11:30:02] *** jjido has quit IRC[11:32:27] *** mrsun has joined #haiku[11:32:42] *** Huggy has joined #haiku[11:59:02] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[12:08:08] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[12:18:22] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[12:28:32] *** yongcong has quit IRC[12:30:23] *** KapiX has left #haiku[12:34:53] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[12:38:08] *** jjido has joined #haiku[12:42:28] *** jjido has quit IRC[13:09:11] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[13:11:31] *** NeonLich1 is now known as NeonLicht[13:11:45] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:12:19] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[13:14:51] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[13:22:15] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[13:24:43] *** KapiX has left #haiku[13:26:43] *** dak has joined #haiku[13:27:27] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[13:35:03] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[13:35:14] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[13:35:15] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[13:38:54] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[13:44:17] *** Luko has joined #haiku[13:45:01] *** Luko has quit IRC[13:47:50] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[13:48:21] *** synchris has quit IRC[13:51:53] *** Stephane3 has joined #haiku[13:52:01] <Stephane3> Hi everybody,[13:56:03] *** carter has quit IRC[14:06:42] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[14:15:09] *** boje has joined #haiku[14:15:52] <boje> Hello, is this the main-channel of yours?[14:17:28] <mmadia> of the Haiku project (www.haiku-os.org), yes.[14:22:38] *** Stephane3 has quit IRC[14:23:06] *** carter has joined #haiku[14:23:06] *** Guest70937 has quit IRC[14:29:11] *** Stephane3 has joined #haiku[14:31:12] <boje> Ok! Was hoping for that! :)[14:31:12] <boje> Can someone tell me WHY this OS is a good choice? I've downloaded it, going to burn it right away.[14:32:00] <PulkoMandy> it's light and fast, and easy to use[14:32:21] <mmadia> i really like stephan's explanation from an ARS Techinca article: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2011/06/hands-on-running-haiku-alpha-3-on-a-netbook.ars?comments=1&start=80#comment-21803035[14:32:23] *** mrsun has quit IRC[14:32:50] <tidux> PulkoMandy: where's the source for those texlive binaries?[14:33:21] <tidux> the prebuilt ones run, but they can't find various TeX-related libraries[14:33:22] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[14:34:18] *** mrsun has joined #haiku[14:34:21] <mmadia> err, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2011/06/hands-on-running-haiku-alpha-3-on-a-netbook/?comments=1&post=21803035#comment-21803035 is the url.[14:35:31] <mmadia> (the last two paragraphs of his comment, actually)[14:35:55] *** Guest70937 has joined #haiku[14:35:58] <tidux> oh, and mktexfmt is missing[14:36:05] <tidux> so `latex` won't even run[14:36:52] *** kcj has quit IRC[14:41:05] *** _marc` has quit IRC[14:41:50] <boje> Ok, thanks. I'll take a look :)[14:42:03] <boje> Are you guys a part of the project?[14:44:21] *** Barrett has quit IRC[14:44:45] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[14:45:11] <mmadia> like any other channel, some people commit directly to the project, others work on 3rd party software, help with translations, bug reports, etc. :)[14:46:48] <boje> I really like guys like you, helping to make the OS free ;)[14:46:48] <boje> Could there be any problem running Haiku along some Linux and Windows OS?[14:47:42] <mmadia> not that i know of.[14:48:36] <luroh> boje: well, if you build from source to a GPT partitioned disk, you may have problems[14:49:09] <luroh> other than that, it should work fine[14:50:20] <boje> I really dont know GPT, i havent even heard of it. Think i'm using NTFS and EXT3 or EXT4?[14:51:57] <luroh> nah, GPT is a partitioning scheme, not a file system[14:52:47] <tidux> GPT is mostly a problem dual-booting with Windows[14:52:59] <tidux> GRUB still writes a classic DOS-format MBR unless you tell it otherwise[14:53:32] <tidux> hell, GRUB will autodetect Haiku and create a menu entry for it if you install Haiku, boot back to Linux and run a grub-update[14:54:13] <boje> :( I'm not that good at things like this! But, i'll try to install it, and try it for a bit. And i'll tell you how i experienced it![14:54:23] <boje> See ya guys[14:54:25] <luroh> boje: unless you're on a Mac, chances are you're on an Intel partitioning scheme, which is supported[14:54:25] *** boje has quit IRC[14:58:37] *** jjido has joined #haiku[14:59:06] *** Stephane3 has quit IRC[15:02:25] *** twock has quit IRC[15:05:06] *** Habstinat has joined #haiku[15:10:52] *** boje has joined #haiku[15:12:28] <boje> Ok, that didn't go as well as expected.. Because there weren't any systempartition "maker" included[15:12:53] <boje> Now, i'm using Kubuntu, how can i make a partition? :)[15:13:18] <mmadia> http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/installing/making_haiku_usb_stick may be a good way to test Haiku, before going through the troubles of (re-)partitioning[15:14:11] <boje> I could try it, because there is a LiveCD[15:14:14] *** Habstinat has quit IRC[15:14:19] <boje> Haha, ttyl![15:14:21] *** boje has quit IRC[15:23:15] *** jjido has quit IRC[15:27:17] *** jjido has joined #haiku[15:27:23] *** vooshy has quit IRC[15:29:51] *** mmadia has quit IRC[15:44:25] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[15:52:45] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[15:54:57] <tidux> so I think I figured out the problem with Haiku's name lookup errors[15:55:27] <tidux> I had a hosts file in /boot/common/settings/network/hosts so I could SSH to my home server by name[15:55:37] <tidux> but once I removed it, things started working quickly again[15:56:52] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[15:57:39] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[16:07:18] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[16:07:49] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[16:12:10] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[16:13:08] *** jjido has quit IRC[16:13:22] *** jjido_ is now known as jjido[16:16:22] *** anupre has joined #haiku[16:20:02] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[16:20:28] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[16:21:43] <stpere> tidux: ah! glad you found it :) those 'bugs' can stick around long before you recall such a thing[16:22:35] *** robert_negro has joined #haiku[16:22:59] *** twock has joined #haiku[16:23:23] *** jjido has quit IRC[16:24:35] <tidux> stpere: as far as I'm concerned it's still a bug[16:24:47] <tidux> even Win95 can handle using DNS and a hosts file simultaneously[16:24:53] <tidux> I'll file a ticket[16:26:58] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[16:27:09] *** twock has quit IRC[16:28:19] <CIA-64> haiku.master: nielx * hrev44245 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=21c0a95 : Update translations from Pootle[16:28:21] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[16:29:03] <PulkoMandy> tidux: mh... I don't know about the sources for texlive, ask Anarchos, I'm just doing the hosting[16:29:32] <PulkoMandy> as for the hosts vs DNS bug, Haiku also can't handle multiple DNS servers on multiple network interfaces, there's a bug for that, maybe related[16:29:40] <PulkoMandy> (rather old bug reported by me)[16:30:38] <tidux> ah, so it's probably treating the hosts file as a DNS server on the loopback interface[16:30:53] *** anupre has quit IRC[16:33:46] *** Barrett has quit IRC[16:36:29] *** synchris has joined #haiku[16:36:29] *** synchris has joined #haiku[16:36:48] *** RQ has joined #haiku[16:48:11] *** tidux has left #haiku[16:54:37] *** anupre has joined #haiku[17:00:17] *** vooshy has quit IRC[17:06:42] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[17:06:42] *** anupre has quit IRC[17:08:24] *** yongcong has quit IRC[17:19:32] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[17:26:07] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:26:34] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[17:26:38] <Cenbe> What's the current state of the art re. wireless networking in Haiku?[17:29:07] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:29:58] *** bbjimmy-at-home has joined #haiku[17:30:41] <humdinger> Cenbe: Works.[17:30:44] *** Learnin_Arel is now known as Winged_Arel[17:30:48] <PulkoMandy> Cenbe: it works, but there is no storage of passwords for WEP/WPA[17:30:55] <humdinger> Cenbe: passwords aren't saved though.[17:31:14] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: hi :)[17:31:27] <PulkoMandy> :)[17:32:15] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[17:33:15] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[17:33:15] *** bbjimmy-at-home is now known as bbjimmy[17:33:19] <Cenbe> Thanks, I'll try a build.[17:33:52] <humdinger> don't forget the wpa<-supplicant optional package if you do a custom build.[17:33:59] *** jjido has joined #haiku[17:34:02] <humdinger> *wpa-supplicant[17:38:32] *** jjido has quit IRC[17:41:48] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[17:44:10] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[17:44:21] <Lelldorin1> there i can get mathlib.h??[17:47:45] <Cenbe> I'm downloading dev build 44242 as we speak. Do I need to install wpa_supplicant separately?[17:48:05] <humdinger> Cenbe: nope. its included.[17:48:12] <humdinger> and working again... :)[17:48:13] <PulkoMandy> is the corruption problem fixed ?[17:48:16] <PulkoMandy> ok, good :)[17:48:21] <humdinger> yes. finally.[17:48:42] <humdinger> mmadia eventually found the error.[17:48:57] <PulkoMandy> yes, stripping debug infos from the packages as we do for the alphas[17:49:00] <humdinger> some stripped symbols? Can't remember...[17:49:04] <humdinger> that[17:49:11] <PulkoMandy> it means we will not fit alpha 4 on a CD[17:49:16] <PulkoMandy> or remove some apps...[17:50:22] <PulkoMandy> maybe we should fix strip to not kill attrs/resources, as well :)[17:51:01] <humdinger> not fitting on a CD sucks a bit...[17:53:13] *** bbjimmy-at-home has joined #haiku[17:53:36] <humdinger> BTW, I've been doing the screenshooting for the screenshot tour with Haiku in VirtualBox.[17:53:47] <humdinger> the nightlies totally suck there![17:53:53] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[17:54:04] <humdinger> It's quite unusable. Alpha3 was sooo much faster.[17:54:12] <PulkoMandy> running r44204, seems ok[17:54:41] <humdinger> Not sure what revision I used, I think newer.[17:54:57] <humdinger> But I doubt there were changes...[17:55:19] <humdinger> I'd have blamed that scheduler priority issue or what.[17:55:34] <humdinger> VirtualBox -> one CPU[17:55:50] <humdinger> Otherwise I don't feel the issue too much with my dualcore[17:55:55] *** Thad has joined #haiku[17:55:58] <PulkoMandy> well, this problem was already there in alpha 3 and forever before ?[17:56:04] <PulkoMandy> but yes it's annoying :)[17:56:29] <humdinger> I think it became worse with some of bonefish's changes last year.[17:56:38] *** vooshy has quit IRC[17:56:39] <humdinger> Unfortunatley I have no details...[17:57:39] <humdinger> Can't be that my upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 with cinnamon has any impact on it?[17:57:39] <CIA-64> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1938 /haikuports/trunk/net-misc/openssh/openssh-6.0p1.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1938 : Updated openssh 6.0p1 bep to use the final released version of the source code[17:57:45] *** bbjimmy-at-home has quit IRC[17:58:06] <PulkoMandy> unlikely[17:58:54] <humdinger> can't stand unity, and cinnamon is acting up, freezing the system for a minute every other hour.[17:59:14] <humdinger> Soon I'm back 100% Haiku, thank doG.[17:59:25] <Thad> Just downloaded Haiku, trying to boot CD and going through debug screen now... looks like last line before no more CD activity is module: Search for network/protocols/ipv6/v1 failed. (previous up in debug screen shows etherpci: init_driver init_driver: etherpci not found)[17:59:41] <PulkoMandy> on linux I use iceWM. It works, but it has a windows-95 like interface[18:00:04] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: Uh. I'm not that masochistic.[18:00:32] <PulkoMandy> well, I got used to it when my main computer was a first generation iBook where every byte of spared ram was valuable[18:00:38] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:00:43] <PulkoMandy> now everything else in linux feels slow and bulky to me[18:00:44] <PulkoMandy> :)[18:01:08] <Lelldorin1> ANYONE HAVE libmath.h? > mail me lelldorin at gmx dot de please[18:01:25] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[18:01:35] <humdinger> Thad: Sorry, no idea.... Safe-boot options?[18:01:49] <Thad> any suggestions of WHICH safe-boot options ?[18:01:54] <CIA-64> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1939 /haikuports/trunk/packs/optionalpackages/optionalpackages-0.7-gcc2.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1939 :[18:01:54] <CIA-64> Updated optionalpackages bep for gcc2 to build updated versions of[18:01:54] <CIA-64> libedit, yasm, libxml2, p7zip and tar.[18:03:01] <PulkoMandy> Thad: try all of them: fail safe video mode, disable acpi, disable SMP[18:03:30] <PulkoMandy> also try booting from USB stick instead of CD[18:04:14] <humdinger> Thad: There's this: http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/7784[18:04:15] <Thad> Ok, going to go through each one, and adding them iteratively until I get a little further... I did try booting from USB, but didn't get any graphic loading ... only System Starting...and then blank screen.[18:06:46] <Thad> No, my ethernet is not recognized at all... no driver is even attempted to load.... it's a Realtek based one... PCMCIA NetGear MA512[18:08:06] <humdinger> ah[18:08:15] <humdinger> no PCMCIA in Haiku[18:08:21] <humdinger> AFAIK[18:08:23] <luroh> well, even if there was a driver for that chipset, i don't think PCMCIA devices are supported yet[18:09:07] <Thad> that's fine actually... just trying to get past it... I took out PCMCIA card just now...trying further...[18:09:23] *** humdinger is now known as humdinger_afk[18:09:38] <luroh> by the way, google says it's not ethernet at all, it's a wifi card[18:09:56] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[18:10:01] *** yourpalal has joined #haiku[18:10:15] <luroh> perhaps i misunderstood something[18:11:05] <HaikuUser> Hello. Is it possible to process several received messages concurrently?[18:12:52] <yourpalal> HaikuUser: A BLooper only handles one message at a time[18:12:58] <yourpalal> but you can have multiple BLoopers[18:15:31] <yourpalal> or you could farm the message out to multiple threads[18:17:07] <Thad> BINGO ! - looks like the option for fail-safe video mode is the only one I needed to get to the blue screen with a working mouse and the Welcome to Haiku language dialog.[18:17:29] <Thad> will I need to write a PCMCIA driver ?[18:20:12] *** DudeWithPot has joined #haiku[18:21:03] <luroh> Thad: there's some info in https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/5195[18:24:29] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[18:27:07] <DudeWithPot> hey guys anyone know a reason why spacebar etc. not working in dosbox in haiku for me..?[18:29:57] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[18:39:54] <diver_> Thad: is it a laptop? which graphic card?[18:40:36] <DudeWithPot> no its workstation. graphic card is a quadro fx[18:40:38] <Thad> yeah... Toshiba Satellite 1805-S207[18:40:49] <DudeWithPot> hmm[18:41:04] <DudeWithPot> sry thought u asked me lol[18:42:24] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[18:43:51] <diver_> Thad: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/2337 does it sound like your issue?[18:45:25] <Thad> NO, there are no error codes in debug screen... during the vesa init[18:45:27] <Cenbe> re. wireless and wpa_supplicant: thanks, it worked out-of-box with my WPA network on a ThinkPad T410.[18:45:42] <Cenbe> Gorgeous.[18:46:31] <diver_> Thad: does it hang?[18:47:21] <Thad> yes it hangs[18:47:52] <Thad> here's the specs on laptop: http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/satellite_18001805s207.pdf[18:48:53] <diver_> Thad: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/2337#comment:17[18:50:19] <diver_> I can give you modified vesa accelerant if you want[18:51:31] <diver_> is it A3 or a nightly build?[18:51:33] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[18:53:15] *** js has quit IRC[18:53:21] <Thad> A3[18:54:04] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:54:08] <diver_> Thad: I'd recommend you to try something newer http://haiku-files.org/haiku/development[18:54:31] <Thad> My suspicion is that the CYBER Aladdin's are a bit different during VESA init perhaps from the rest of the Trident family ?[18:54:51] <Thad> sure...I'll try that and report back...[18:55:48] <diver_> Thad: http://haiku-files.org/haiku/development/haiku-nightly-hrev44242-x86gcc2hybrid-anyboot.zip[18:56:11] <Thad> yeah, I know...downloading[18:57:02] <diver_> try usb boot, maybe this version will work[18:57:15] <Thad> ah, good idea... also...[18:57:38] <Thad> is this the right area for PCMCIA or CardBus detection ? http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/system/kernel/device_manager[18:58:07] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[18:58:39] <diver_> make sure that you are writing this image to a device an not to a partition[18:58:49] <diver_> I'm not sure, maybe here? http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/add-ons/kernel/bus_managers[18:59:31] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[19:00:59] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[19:01:24] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[19:01:30] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[19:04:26] *** siarzhuk has joined #haiku[19:06:25] <Thad> diver_: ah yes, and found the cardbus testing in pci.cpp Thanks![19:07:02] <diver_> np[19:09:40] *** humdinger_afk has quit IRC[19:14:28] *** ChanServ has joined #haiku[19:14:28] *** kornbluth.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[19:20:33] *** robert_negro has left #haiku[19:23:03] <Thad> diver_: with newest nightly... USB loading does the same thing... System Loading... and then black screen.[19:23:33] <diver_> oh :-/[19:24:02] <Thad> diver_: I'll burn image to CD, I guess.[19:24:29] <Thad> laptop doesn't support USB boot anyways...and I've been using PLOP Boot CD to fudge it[19:24:39] <diver_> Thad: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8575[19:25:00] <diver_> ah, that explains it[19:26:28] <diver_> the other day someone reported that Haiku hangs at System Loading... using PLOP[19:28:33] <Thad> no worries... yeah, it's a fudge... if your system doesn't natively support booting from USB, then you need to get another system anyways :)[19:28:45] <PulkoMandy> yes, did not have very good results with plop either here[19:29:07] <Thad> no worries, burning nightly to CD and trying that way to get further...[19:31:47] *** stpere_ has joined #haiku[19:36:23] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[19:36:24] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[19:39:04] *** yourpalal has left #haiku[19:41:29] <Thad> diver_: nightly burned cd, exhibits same behavior with rocket icon and then CD stops spinning and no blue screen Welcome to Haiku.[19:43:00] <diver_> that's kinda expected as the bug I linked is still not fixed[19:43:13] *** KapiX has left #haiku[19:43:42] <diver_> probably because it only reproducible on trident cards which are not very widespread[19:44:43] <Thad> diver_: yeah[19:45:19] <Thad> diver_: at any rate, now you know that's a slight bug that needs to be fixed for trident users[19:45:43] <Thad> diver_: I gotta take off now.... ttyl.[19:45:57] *** Thad has quit IRC[19:58:37] *** robert_negro has joined #haiku[20:02:16] *** XenoDuck has quit IRC[20:02:32] *** Barrett has quit IRC[20:04:59] <CIA-64> haiku.master: axeld * hrev44246 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=7b2ba07 : (log message trimmed)[20:04:59] <CIA-64> The size control now actually sets the size instead of the offset. [2 commits][20:04:59] <CIA-64> * SizeSlider::MaxPartitionSize() also now returns the size instead of the end[20:04:59] <CIA-64> offset.[20:04:59] <CIA-64> * Renamed CreateParamsPanel::_UpdateTextControl() to _UpdateSizeTextControl().[20:04:59] <CIA-64> * Removed code duplication, and instead just call _UpdateSizeTextControl()[20:04:59] <CIA-64> twice.[20:06:24] <CIA-64> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1940 /haikuports/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs) http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1940 : Updated fastdep-0.16 to pull source from the haikuports server.[20:11:25] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[20:17:06] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[20:18:55] *** vezhlys_ has joined #haiku[20:19:23] *** vooshy has quit IRC[20:20:45] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[20:21:04] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[20:21:50] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[20:22:45] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[20:26:06] *** robert_negro has left #haiku[20:26:24] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[20:26:32] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[20:29:51] *** KapiX has left #haiku[20:30:06] *** Per_Vers has joined #haiku[20:30:21] <Per_Vers> Hello.[20:30:30] <[JJ]Albert> hi[20:30:31] <Per_Vers> How is html5 for WebPositive coming along?[20:30:51] <[JJ]Albert> Good question. Anyone know?[20:31:18] <Per_Vers> I would like to use Haiku. But YouTube is important to mee.[20:32:18] <[JJ]Albert> Yeh, I think you are out of luck there.[20:32:30] <[JJ]Albert> Unless there's some way to download the videos.[20:32:37] *** DudeWithPot has quit IRC[20:32:53] <[JJ]Albert> Maybe clipnabber classic.[20:33:31] <Per_Vers> I could always use UberTuber, of course. But it is impractical. HTML5 is really important.[20:36:11] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[20:41:22] *** twock_ has joined #haiku[20:41:25] <PulkoMandy> aldeck is working on it[20:41:32] <PulkoMandy> he posts weekly reports on the website[20:43:04] <[JJ]Albert> ah, I see. What's his url?[20:45:50] <PulkoMandy> http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/aldeck[20:47:47] *** MatthewH12` has joined #haiku[20:49:16] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[20:50:16] <Per_Vers> He is working on HTML5, as in YouTube?[20:53:55] *** synchris has quit IRC[20:54:45] <PulkoMandy> he is getting an up to date webkit running first, and I don't know what he will do next[20:55:03] <PulkoMandy> likely replacing the network backend to add support for caching webpages and increasing performance[20:55:17] <PulkoMandy> video support would be somewhere in the todo list as well[20:55:33] *** KapiX has left #haiku[20:58:59] <Per_Vers> When is next release, then? A3 is getting old...[21:00:01] <Per_Vers> I heard it would be this summer. A4 or R1.[21:02:54] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[21:07:34] <PulkoMandy> we try to do an alpha4 yes[21:07:47] <PulkoMandy> no beta 1 as we're still waiting for package manager[21:08:10] <PulkoMandy> but there are some critical issues we would like to fix before releasing[21:08:38] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[21:12:44] <Per_Vers> what are the critical issues? An example?[21:18:26] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[21:22:08] <NeonLicht> I'm trying to install hrev44242 on a HD partition from qemu (I've done it many times before) and three times the installer gets stuck at file 'exception' (5965 of 12677). I son't think there is any problem with the image, sinze I downloaded as xz and decopressed w/o problems. Any idea, please?[21:23:20] <PulkoMandy> Per_Vers: http://dev.haiku-os.org/query?status=assigned&status=in-progress&status=reopened&status=new&group=status&milestone=R1%2Falpha4[21:24:20] <NeonLicht> So, PulkoMandy, package manager is targeted for B1?[21:24:45] <PulkoMandy> yes, it is part of R1, and beta means we have all the features of R1, but more bugs[21:25:05] <NeonLicht> Oh, cool, thanks! :)[21:25:51] <NeonLicht> I wonder how many more bugs. Have you guys decided already? LOL[21:26:55] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[21:33:29] *** slubman has quit IRC[21:34:15] *** slubman has joined #haiku[21:35:21] *** Tzibu has joined #haiku[21:37:51] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[21:37:52] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[21:41:52] <Per_Vers> bye[21:42:13] *** Per_Vers has quit IRC[21:48:34] <NeonLicht> Does the installer create a swap file during installation or is it Haiku once it's run for the first time the one which does it, please? It'd be nice to be able to prevent it from being created when you install Haiku into a USB datastick, for example.[21:48:52] <mmadia> it's the first boot.[21:49:13] <mmadia> there may even be a bug where the preflet will mistakenly report it as disabled, meanwhile it isn't.[21:49:34] <PulkoMandy> it's only created when there is enough free space[21:49:44] <PulkoMandy> and only used when you are out of physical memory[21:49:50] <PulkoMandy> so it's safe to have it anyway[21:49:52] <NeonLicht> Thanks, mmadia, PulkoMandy.[21:50:35] <NeonLicht> I'm using a 1GB datastick and it usually creates a swap file which fills up the whole space.[21:50:57] *** jjido has joined #haiku[21:51:14] <NeonLicht> Perhaps I whould get a 2GB one :)[21:54:09] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[21:55:06] <NeonLicht> I'm trying to install hrev44242 to that datastick (well, it's actually a MicroSD card) and has passed the file 'exception' (5965 of 12677). I wonder if there must be any problem with the HD partition I was trying to install to before?[21:55:47] *** jjido has quit IRC[21:55:56] <NeonLicht> s/must/might/[22:02:42] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[22:10:03] *** KapiX has left #haiku[22:25:35] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:31:16] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[22:32:59] *** KapiX has left #haiku[22:34:51] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[22:35:01] *** siarzhuk has left #haiku[22:37:11] *** Habstinat has joined #haiku[22:39:04] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[22:39:08] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[22:42:39] *** oco has quit IRC[22:50:31] *** wishthank has joined #haiku[22:50:37] <wishthank> hello[22:50:47] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[22:51:34] <wishthank> well, installoptionalpackage doesn't work on the latest night build?..[22:52:01] <Anarchos> wishthank no idea[22:52:02] <wishthank> try to download some packages, but it hangs on download..[22:54:13] <wishthank> how do I check my internet speed?[22:54:18] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[22:54:25] <wishthank> :~][22:56:00] <wishthank> walking into space, spacewalker? :)[22:56:13] <Spacewalker> heh, yeah.[22:57:35] *** KapiX has left #haiku[22:59:40] *** wishthank has left #haiku[23:00:30] *** volci has quit IRC[23:01:50] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[23:02:36] *** synchris has joined #haiku[23:02:36] *** synchris has joined #haiku[23:05:37] *** orbital_fox_ has joined #haiku[23:06:45] *** orbital_fox has joined #haiku[23:09:03] <Anarchos> salut orbital_fox[23:09:06] *** oco has joined #haiku[23:13:08] *** dcase has quit IRC[23:13:29] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[23:16:00] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[23:16:25] *** oco_ has joined #haiku[23:17:48] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[23:18:13] *** oco has quit IRC[23:18:20] *** oco_ is now known as oco[23:18:37] *** RQ has quit IRC[23:21:32] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:23:51] *** KapiX has left #haiku[23:24:33] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[23:27:26] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[23:37:28] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[23:37:35] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[23:38:56] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[23:40:58] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[23:41:30] *** dak has quit IRC[23:41:59] *** KapiX has left #haiku[23:43:55] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[23:49:03] <CIA-64> xyzzy-github.x86_64: xyzzy-github * 6296722bc0d7b1cbe76111937ad147c850f9bfdc : Fixed incorrect link address in kernel linker script. [18 commits][23:51:39] <CIA-64> haiku.master: mmadia * hrev44247 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=2c28c98 : Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.haiku-os.org/haiku [4 commits][23:55:05] *** js has joined #haiku[23:57:10] *** Huggy has quit IRC