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[01:44:08] <mmu_man> mmadia: please do
[01:44:25] <mmadia> done.
[01:44:44] <mmu_man> thx
[01:45:24] <[JJ]Albert> Heyo guys.
[01:45:33] <mmadia> 'lo
[01:46:18] <[JJ]Albert> hows it been goin w/ Haiku?
[01:48:25] <mmadia> good. aldeck's work has gotten web+ running on a much newer version of webkit.
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[01:50:41] <mmu_man> I should probably propose finishing all the stuff I started :p
[01:51:23] <[JJ]Albert> BTW, wasn't there a move to develop video drivers/
[01:51:37] <[JJ]Albert> Er, project to develop video drivers for Haiku.
[01:52:03] <mmadia> kallisti5 had been working on radeon_hd and even some mesa/opengl work too.
[01:52:24] <[JJ]Albert> Kewl.
[01:52:39] <[JJ]Albert> What happened to him?
[01:52:41] <mmadia> and i've been hoping that someone would request a (less expensive) macbook or another machine that has issues with the intel_extreme driver.
[01:52:56] <[JJ]Albert> :p
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[17:16:00] <leszek> hi
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[17:37:47] <DebianTUX> hi
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[19:50:07] <robert_negro> How to open image file and load it into BPicture and then save it to file?
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[19:53:34] <PulkoMandy> robert_negro: BPicture is not for image files, you need to use BBitmap instead
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[19:54:05] <PulkoMandy> http://haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/BTranslationUtils.html
[19:54:11] <PulkoMandy> and use these to load and save
[19:54:44] <robert_negro> These are only for loading
[19:55:35] <PulkoMandy> yes
[19:55:40] <PulkoMandy> you need Translate() to save
[19:55:42] <PulkoMandy> http://haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/BTranslator.html
[19:56:09] <PulkoMandy> http://haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/TheTranslationKit_Introduction.html
[19:56:20] <PulkoMandy> there are likely some examples of this somewhere ...
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[20:33:08] <CIA-64> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1932 /haikuports/trunk/dev-db/sqlite/sqlite-3.7.13.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1932  : Updated sqlite to 3.7.13
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[21:26:06] * Anarchos is porting a X11 app to  the native Haiku API
[21:27:14] <[JJ]Albert> Kewl
[21:30:29] <[JJ]Albert> What app, BTW?
[21:30:53] <Anarchos> [JJ]Albert alliance, a complete CAD VLSI toolchain
[21:31:03] <[JJ]Albert> kewl
[21:31:19] <Anarchos> [JJ]Albert in their tutorial they simulate Mips assembly program to their generated transistor layout :)
[21:31:29] <Anarchos> [JJ]Albert so it is not a toy app...
[21:31:37] <[JJ]Albert> Right.
[21:31:59] <[JJ]Albert> So tech development, you say?
[21:32:03] <[JJ]Albert> CAD, yeh
[21:32:45] <Anarchos> [JJ]Albert i intend to use it to develop a MMIX cpu, and why not port Haiku to it...
[21:33:03] <[JJ]Albert> Oh yeah, awesome!
[21:33:34] <[JJ]Albert> You'll need to have those plans processed in a factory someplace though, am I right
[21:33:35] <[JJ]Albert> ?
[21:34:31] <Anarchos> [JJ]Albert well you can 1) diffuse them 2) simulate them (spice ?) 3) implant it in FPGA 4) sell them to intel ;)
[21:34:41] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, right.
[21:35:08] <[JJ]Albert> I admittedly have devoted my brainpower in the last 6 months to finishing my academic stuff.
[21:35:23] <[JJ]Albert> Thank goodness I'm done, now I can get back to the real world. :p
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[21:36:33] <Anarchos> [JJ]Albert what was yoru academic ?
[21:36:42] <[JJ]Albert> HS. :(
[21:36:50] <[JJ]Albert> Depressing stuff.
[21:37:13] <[JJ]Albert> I shall never look back on it.
[21:37:16] <[JJ]Albert> Never.
[21:38:49] <Anarchos> [JJ]Albert don't be shy !
[21:39:18] <[JJ]Albert> Well I'm not. Just bitter.
[21:39:20] <[JJ]Albert> :p
[21:39:49] <jua_> Anarchos, that's great. Do you mean by Haiku native API that you can replace the GUI with an interface-kit one?
[21:40:28] <[JJ]Albert> If so, then that's awesome progress.
[21:40:34] <Anarchos> jua_ i try yes, i just began a few weeks ago
[21:40:40] <jua_> nice :)
[21:40:49] <robert_negro> I am thinking of making manual for qt development with haiku. Anyone interested?
[21:40:53] * Anarchos is too lazy to correct bugs in Xlibs port dating BeOS or do a new port
[21:41:08] <jua_> I need to find some time in the future to get some verilog-stuff working on Haiku..
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[21:45:32] <Anarchos> jua_ wam
[21:46:13] <Anarchos> jua_ the asimut vhdl simulator of alliance is already compiled :)
[21:46:27] <jua_> too bad I can't stand VHDL xD
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[21:58:49] * PulkoMandy votes for a Kicad port
[21:59:00] <PulkoMandy> one of the few apps that make me keep another OS around ...
[21:59:11] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy what is Kicad ?
[22:00:24] <PulkoMandy> electronics CAD as well, but at the schematic and PCB level
[22:00:28] <PulkoMandy> no VHDL stuff
[22:01:18] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy ok
[22:01:41] <jua_> I need to keep Windows or Linux around anyway to use Quartus for any FPGA stuff :\
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[22:49:18] <mmadia> humdinger -- the second gradient version does look better, IMO.
[22:49:41] <humdinger> yeah, me too.
[22:49:52] <humdinger> I'll redo it all RSN.
[22:50:28] <humdinger> I wonder if I should create transparent background wonderbrush versions r if that'll be overkill.
[22:52:14] <mmadia> eh. like someone said, that would mess up the anti-aliasing of the fonts and other bits.
[22:52:49] <humdinger> Since Haiku's windows are rects, that's only a problem for Icons on the Desktop.
[22:53:14] <humdinger> THose could be faked with manually set icons directly on the transparent bg in WB
[22:54:15] <mmadia> btw, i never knew about viewing HVIF icons in DiskProbe.  :)
[22:54:21] <humdinger> Would be a cool feature to let the user upload his own background and have it server side blended under the transparent PNG.
[22:54:55] <humdinger> Yes. I think it's the only way to show a really big icon... .)
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[22:57:16] <mmadia> hey hamishm, did you get OpenJDK commit access recently?
[22:58:24] <hamishm> as far as I know that's still getting processed
[22:58:28] <hamishm> but effectively, yeah
[22:58:36] <mmadia> congrats!
[22:58:40] <hamishm> thanks :)
[22:58:44] <humdinger> cool hamishm!
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[22:59:09] <humdinger> now you're the head of the juge Haiku Java Team. :)
[22:59:15] <humdinger> *huge
[22:59:33] <mmadia> crap! i missed telling everyone about the 1/4 term milestone.
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[22:59:42] <hamishm> hah. Well Andrew Bachmann is the head
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[22:59:52] <hamishm> but it's a team of two at least
[23:00:16] <humdinger> Maybe if you GSOC is done more will come out of the woodwork
[23:00:47] <hamishm> yep. At least looking in the archives of the haiku-port mailing list there were a few interested people
[23:01:49] <humdinger> mmadia: Thanks for the sidebar increase. I guess having date sorted posts when clicking on "more" isn't that easy...
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[23:02:09] <mmadia> no, it seems to be a standard sideblock for the forums.
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[23:02:33] <mmadia> ... i haven't looked at the nightly-images tab anymore either.
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[23:02:44] <humdinger> hamishm: Everyone waits for you to finish the hard work..
[23:02:58] <humdinger> mmadia: slacker :)
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[23:04:48] <humdinger> mmadia: you sure you didn't increase the Blog-O-Sphere to 10 items?
[23:05:07] <mmadia> that was already 10 items.
[23:05:25] <humdinger> maybe needs time to refresh
[23:05:34] <mmadia> are you logged in?
[23:05:42] <humdinger> yep
[23:07:41] <humdinger> I'll hit the bunk, guys!
[23:07:56] <humdinger> nighty night!
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[23:52:10] <tidux|haiku> has anyone else been having problems with Transmission?
[23:53:18] <tidux|haiku> it doesn't seem to be actually downloading anything
[23:53:31] <mmadia> I haven't tried it weeks.
[23:53:47] <tidux|haiku> like every time it says "downloading from 17 of 17 peers" on this torrent it disconnects
[23:53:54] <tidux|haiku> and then says it's downloading from 0 of 17
[23:53:58] <tidux|haiku> :/
[23:54:32] <tidux|haiku> on the plus side I finally reinstalled the latest nightly and didn't install opensound, so now my speakers work
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