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[00:01:07] <CIA-68> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev44230 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=581f28e :
[00:01:07] <CIA-68> ahci: Add pretty name to AHCI devices
[00:01:07] <CIA-68> * Naming is a little rough, but I can't think of
[00:01:07] <CIA-68> anything better.
[00:01:07] <CIA-68> * Two less "Unknown Devices" in Device application
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[00:04:27] <BeOSLand> mailerdaemon is it usable actually ? (xxx at gmail dot com Connection error: Network is unreachable [Fri Jun 8 00:03:49 2012])
[00:05:13] <BeOSLand> luroh: Webpositive is running now ! thanks
[00:05:30] <luroh> ah, good
[00:05:51] <BeOSLand> speeder than bezilla 2.02
[00:07:08] <luroh> regarding mail_daemon, people were discussing problems with it earlier today - http://echelog.com/logs/browse/haiku/1339020000
[00:07:25] <luroh> personally i don't know, it's not something i use
[00:07:43] <luroh> anyhow, good night
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[00:09:07] <BeOSLand> bye gn
[00:17:45] <BeOSLand> R5 libnet is replaced by somethink else under haiku ?
[00:18:17] <BeOSLand> libnetwork ?
[00:24:14] <CIA-68> haiku-webkit: aldeck * r589 /webkit/trunk/ (8 files in 6 dirs) :
[00:24:14] <CIA-68> * Remove WebCore/platform/text/CString.h/cpp as should have been in r423.
[00:24:14] <CIA-68> WebKit r56825 moved CString to JavaScriptCore/wtf
[00:24:14] <CIA-68> * Remove unneeded includes
[00:24:15] <CIA-68> * Jamfile: Put back local include path JavaScriptCore/wtf
[00:24:15] <CIA-68> * Jamfile: Fix icu lib names
[00:24:16] <CIA-68> Fixes build
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[00:46:55] <CIA-68> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1915 /haikuports/trunk/dev-libs/libzip/libzip-0.10.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1915 :
[00:46:55] <CIA-68> Fixed libzip by using CMake to build instead of the autotools. Had to use sed to correct the man dir, there is probably a
[00:46:55] <CIA-68> cleaner way to do that.
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[02:17:50] <HaikuUser> Hello. How can I use usb midi keyboard in haiku?
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[07:06:03] <carter> what is the default API for gui development in beos?
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[07:47:47] <carter> where can you find the source code for BeAPI?
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[07:50:54] <scgtrp> i don't think the original is open source. haiku's implementation is in kits/ in the source tree
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[08:12:50] <carter> ic thanks. Can the source code be found in the beos R5?
[08:14:22] <scgtrp> that would be the 'original' i mentioned
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[10:22:07] <anxiety> hey hey, i thought i'd try this out coz it looks pretty cool, im currently running from a live cd and would like to get wireless networking up. How does one find out what wireless card is in the system? I would prefer not to open it up to have a look xP
[10:24:31] <anxiety> i'd actually like to see all hardware in the system is there some sort of 'device manager' or lspci, lsusb etc?
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[10:28:55] <diver_> anxiety: listdev
[10:29:00] <anxiety> thanks :)
[10:29:12] <diver_> np
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[10:30:23] <anxiety> i think it might've broke xP
[10:30:35] <anxiety> i was running the system install
[10:31:21] <anxiety> i wasnt really paying attention, but it seems i somehow ended up in something looking sort of like a terminal that said kdebug>
[10:31:38] <diver_> that would be KDL
[10:32:17] <diver_> sometimes you can exit it using "es" command
[10:32:26] <anxiety> hmm kk
[10:32:47] <diver_> most likely Haiku paniced at some point
[10:33:47] <anxiety> starting install again :D
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[10:38:47] <anxiety> im very impressed with how fast this loads up from cd
[10:39:52] <diver_> cd load time are still not optimal
[10:40:12] <diver_> usb boot usually way faster
[10:40:45] <Anarchos> diver_: not mentioning native boot ;)
[10:40:46] <diver_> iso images are not recommended as they are very limited
[10:40:55] <diver_> yeah
[10:40:56] <anxiety> haha it beats every live linux distro i've tried easily
[10:41:30] <diver_> yes, but Haiku starts a lot less apps/services
[10:41:59] <Anarchos> and as a desktop OS, i should try to implement a simple idea : after first boot, just remove drivers which were not used, so next boots only uses files really needed
[10:42:45] <anxiety> hmm i think haiku installed the bootloader to the partition rather than the drive? I'm being told disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter xP
[10:43:17] <anxiety> what would be the best way to remedy this? Im using the entire drive for haiku
[10:43:55] <Anarchos> anxiety: makebootable or Bootman should be the solution
[10:44:02] <anxiety> ok cool
[10:44:16] <Anarchos> anxiety: but be careful on what you do with those tools !
[10:44:44] <diver_> anxiety: both of then are available from Installers' "Tools" menubar
[10:45:57] <anxiety> this is my second pc older pc for mucking round with things on, theres nothing on it so i'm not particularly worried about screwing up partitions :D
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[11:10:07] <anxiety> it seems i have an intersil isl3890 wireless network card
[11:10:37] <anxiety> from what i see listed on the haiku site there are firmwares for intel, broadcom and marvell cards
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[11:11:25] <anxiety> the only device that i see listed in network is the wired network controller
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[11:11:40] <anxiety> does this mean there is nothing available to make this wireless controller work?
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[11:12:58] <humdinger> anxiety: looks like it. Haiku uses a compatibility layer with FreeBSD networking.
[11:13:04] <humdinger> can't see it here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html#WLAN
[11:14:18] <humdinger> only "Prism"
[11:15:30] <anxiety> hmm yea, haiku suggests the card could be a prismgt but the only driver for that seems to be USB only, this one is PCI
[11:15:42] <anxiety> i suppose i'll have to organise a network cable at some point then xP
[11:17:52] <c00kiemon5ter> i remember seeing a haiku presentation where it was suggested that wireless had problems
[11:18:08] <c00kiemon5ter> is the wireless networking state in good shape now ?
[11:18:42] <anxiety> from looking at the haiku and haikuware websites it seems quite a few wireless controllers are working
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[11:18:49] <humdinger> c00kiemon5ter: kinda...
[11:18:58] <humdinger> WPA is working
[11:19:08] <humdinger> only passwords aren't saved yet.
[11:19:20] <humdinger> it's bit of a hassle, but scripting to the rescue.
[11:19:32] <c00kiemon5ter> that's the talk I'm talking about http://blip.tv/linuxconfau/haiku-4747185
[11:19:43] <c00kiemon5ter> seems to be 2011
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[11:21:34] <humdinger> can't see anything on networking there c00kiemon5ter
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[11:21:58] <humdinger> I only see 4 comments.
[11:22:09] <humdinger> maybe a web+ shortcomming ? :)
[11:22:27] <c00kiemon5ter> on the talk ? ^ he goes into it on the middle of the talk somewhere, and then at the end, when someone asks about wireless
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[11:23:43] <humdinger> can't watch in Haiku....
[11:24:09] <c00kiemon5ter> hmm, yeah, he also says flash is not supported
[11:24:12] <c00kiemon5ter> no worries
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[11:24:15] <humdinger> You'll have to get a nightly image for encrypted wireless.
[11:24:52] <humdinger> alpha3 is getting old.
[11:24:53] <c00kiemon5ter> well atm, I have a 15m eth cable, going out the window and one floor down into the router
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[11:25:14] <c00kiemon5ter> cause linux atheros drivers are broken (will be fixed on linux-3.4)
[11:25:23] <humdinger> Fair Weather Networking
[11:25:51] <humdinger> brb
[11:25:52] <anxiety> it seems flash videos are awkwardly going? theres a post on haikuware which shows gnash playing some stuff from youtube :D
[11:25:54] <c00kiemon5ter> I'll be trying haiku, maybe boot it today, after I get some work done (already sitting on a usb)
[11:26:33] <anxiety> what happened to the atheros drivers?
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[11:28:33] <c00kiemon5ter> a patch broke both ath5 and ath9, and they now stop traffic and start doing calibration tests (which should only be done in the beggining)
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[11:29:54] <humdinger> for youtube an some other sites there's of course the excellent UberTuber.... :)
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[11:30:58] <c00kiemon5ter> that's nice humdinger
[11:31:44] <humdinger> let's hope that HTML5 and an improved Web+ make those stopgaps obsolete soon.
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[11:39:25] <anxiety> how do i get haiku to shutdown the system when is panics?
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[11:40:13] <humdinger> in KDL?
[11:40:20] <anxiety> yea
[11:40:29] <humdinger> if it's recoverable "continue"
[11:40:35] <humdinger> if not there's only "reboot"
[11:40:52] <anxiety> ah yup
[11:40:54] <anxiety> that worked
[11:41:24] <anxiety> seems im having some scsi troubles
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[11:42:52] <humdinger> few people use scsi any more, so bugs in there might be difficult to spot/fix if there isn't a dev hit by it.
[11:44:35] <anxiety> yea if it happens again i'll probably file a bug
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[11:45:01] <humdinger> good idea. check the bug reporting hints from the Welcome page.
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[11:45:30] <anxiety> as far as i know though i don't actually use any scsi devices so im unsure why its causing issues.
[11:46:10] <humdinger> I'm not sure. It may be that scsi is the sub-system for ide(?)
[11:46:18] <humdinger> I think I might remember something like this
[11:46:24] <anxiety> oh ok
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[18:31:09] <kopf> I'm trying to install the alpha3 ISO on a virtualbox VM. It boots off the CD, the haiku initialisation icons light up ( http://fae.ro/ss/1ed4f1.png ) and then nothing happens. What should I do?
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[18:32:18] <Skipp_OSX> kopf: It appears that you are using VBox. Turn off any extra CPUs or 3d acceleration
[18:32:32] <Skipp_OSX> It should boot fine
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[18:33:59] <kopf> It's got 1 CPU and 3D Accelleration is turned off :/
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[18:34:49] <Skipp_OSX> You need at least 256 MB of virtual RAM, but you most likely have that
[18:35:02] <kopf> ah ok
[18:35:04] <kopf> was set to 192
[18:36:00] <kopf> still nothing :s
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[18:39:20] <kopf> ah, works with 512, not with 256 tho
[18:40:17] <kopf> Mouse cursor disappeared though
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[19:07:02] <leszek> hi
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[21:42:19] <Hilarly> hi
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[21:42:51] <humdinger> hullo
[21:43:10] <Hilarly> I have a big problem! I have buyed a USB wifi pen and it isn't recognized by haiku!!! I can't find it in /dev/net
[21:43:28] <Hilarly> Doesn't haiku supports wifi?
[21:43:42] <humdinger> not for USB dongles yet
[21:43:50] <humdinger> sorry...
[21:44:44] <Hilarly> hey, do you know when it will be available? It will be great to have WIFI support :)
[21:45:18] <humdinger> no idea. I don't think it'll be here soon.
[21:45:41] <humdinger> nobody is actively developing it AFAIK.
[21:46:04] <humdinger> wifi pci cards etc. are working well right now.
[21:48:42] <Hilarly> waiting for USB support :) I would love to see it working in my old laptop :) it only supports USB dongles:)
[21:51:01] <humdinger> until then it's tethered via LAN cable...
[21:51:54] <Hilarly> it doesn't have LAN :P
[21:52:09] <humdinger> getting better and better.
[21:52:18] <humdinger> reminds me of my old sony vaio.
[21:52:35] <humdinger> had to use a PCMCIA lan card...
[21:52:43] <diver_> some USB-to-Ethernet adapters work
[21:52:46] <humdinger> that was under BeOS. no pcmcia under Haiku yet.
[21:54:07] <diver_> I had this one http://www.cpexol.com/images/caa029.jpg and it works in Haiku thanks to usb_davicom driver
[21:55:35] <humdinger> nice, diver_, didn't know that worked...
[21:55:58] <Hilarly> nice:)
[21:56:06] <Hilarly> cool:)
[21:56:14] <diver_> a bit buggy though
[21:57:27] <Hilarly> can't wait to make haiku run asp.net with portable.net :)
[21:57:59] <Hilarly> haiku server :P lol
[21:59:23] <Hilarly> wifi is a must have in today's world... someday we will see wireless power :) does haiku will support it? :)
[22:03:24] <humdinger> A Tesla power unit will probably be quite OS agnostic.
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