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[03:21:34] <It9001> Hey
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[06:56:44] <ddavid123> Hello!
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[07:02:50] <ddavid123> Has wpa_supplicant been added to the nightly builds yet? I am planning on upgrading my Haiku usb stick install tomorrow.
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[07:43:14] <Premislaus> Hi folks! Is there any tutorials for Wonderbrush?
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[11:31:42] <leszek> hi
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[11:47:16] <Premislaus> hi leszek :)
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[16:22:44] <alvdav> hello! i have vim73 from haikuware installed and i found out that it missbehave with TERM=xterm
[16:22:50] <alvdav> it shows no colors
[16:22:59] <alvdav> but with TERM=screen it dose
[16:23:33] <alvdav> so, just for your knowlege :P
[16:24:32] <alvdav> and well i wanna ask where i should look to try to fix this
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[17:26:09] <dorothy> Hi there, I'm trying Haiku for the first time and by playing with options, have been able to get the first three icons to light up, if I disable the IO-APIC, but haven't been able to get the fourth icon to light up, the platform is an AMD A8-3870K with mobo A75-UD4H 8GB RAM, 120GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD and I'm using a 16GB USB drive to do the install
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[17:31:30] <leszek> hi
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[17:34:23] <dorothy> Will I have better luck with emulation as described on this page?
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[17:34:46] <dorothy> I've haven't done anything like this before, so advice would be appreciated
[17:35:27] <dorothy> In general computing, my experience level is that of a user, not a developer or something like that
[17:35:49] <humdinger> dorothy: running in VirtualBox is always an option.
[17:35:59] <dorothy> ok
[17:36:03] <humdinger> bound to work, but everything's much slower.
[17:36:21] <tqh> Does it just halt at the third icon?
[17:36:32] <dorothy> ah, i see virtual box on the emulation list
[17:36:36] <dorothy> yes, it just halts
[17:37:34] <tqh> onscreen serial debug would be interesting then.
[17:38:05] <humdinger> you may be able to get a syslog.
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[17:39:00] <humdinger> tqh: that's also on that page :)
[17:39:06] <dorothy> syslog? i'm a windows user, but trying mint linux for the first time, and that's what my machine is running right now.... oh, ok
[17:39:25] <tqh> humdinger, I know, I just linked directly to it.
[17:39:42] <humdinger> you dog! :)
[17:40:53] <tqh> dorothy, while booting you can get a lot of info that is printed, and that info could be a clue to why it doesn't work with you computer.
[17:41:08] <dorothy> i see, just reading through it .... i decided to go cold turkey off of windows, so no more win32 partitions left
[17:41:17] <hoelzro> dorothy: good for you =)
[17:45:00] <dorothy> ok, so that means i won't be able to save the syslog, since i don't have a win32 partition.... is it possible to save the syslog on the same usb drive as the one i'm booting off of to install haiku? cuz then i could boot back into mint linux and join the chat here again and then you could see it
[17:45:19] <dorothy> thanks hoelzro .... hope i can stay off of it though :-)
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[17:49:35] <humdinger> dorothy: you could use a FAT32 usb stick.
[17:50:35] <dorothy> humdinger: i only have one usb stick, and it's the one with the haiku installation on it
[17:51:35] <dorothy> hmmm.... and i don't think there's a computer store close by to where i'm at right now
[17:51:36] <humdinger> oh. I was judging by situation: they seem to multiply ober the weeks... :)
[17:52:09] <humdinger> then do just the on screen debugging. Maybe it stopps with a useful output.
[17:52:23] <humdinger> you could take a photo.
[17:52:34] <dorothy> ok, will do brb :-)
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[17:56:07] <humdinger> good luck
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[18:09:15] <dorothy> reverted to my backup computer (pen and paper) and wrote down the last few lines of about 50 lines in total, the last few lines all start with "PCI: " with the last being "PCI: find_pci_capability ERROR 0:0:0 capability 0x5 not supported"
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[18:11:33] <dorothy> the line before that is "PCI: dom 0, bus0, dev21, func 2, changed PCI bridge control from 0x0000 to 0x0003"
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[20:27:50] <HaikuUser> I have posted this on the forum but no one replied and now that I have updated to 44221 still I find that the issue to manually config the settings in Vision remains. Sad that the builds does not incorporate the corrections
[20:28:56] <HaikuUser> I had to manually get settings for Vision as advised in the alpha3 addendum
[20:29:37] <HaikuUser> even at this stage in the development when alpha4 or what ever should be out :(
[20:32:22] <tidux> link to the ticket?
[20:32:55] <HaikuUser> how is that done?
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[20:36:41] <bbjimmy> what attributes do I have to set on an email to have it send the next time I check mail?
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[20:42:45] <KapiX> hi
[20:42:51] <bbjimmy> I want to generate the text, add the email attributes and have the mail-daimon send an email using my email account without using the mail app.
[20:43:15] <bbjimmy> I want to send the mail using a bash script.
[20:43:39] <KapiX> and when I am trying to run
[20:43:42] <bbjimmy> any ideas?
[20:44:02] <KapiX> I get an error message about missing _Unwind_GetRegionStart
[20:45:19] <KapiX> all I found in google is IRC log from this channel
[20:45:19] <bbjimmy> that's mail_daemon
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[20:47:34] <KapiX> game is SDL based
[20:47:59] <KapiX> I downloaded SDLlibs package from OptionalPackages
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[20:57:01] <KapiX> okay, solved it, but now it complains about missing __tiQ23icu8ByteSink
[21:01:48] <PulkoMandy> mh
[21:01:56] <PulkoMandy> looks like you're mixing gcc4 and gcc2 code ...
[21:02:25] <KapiX> I'm compiling it with gcc4
[21:02:31] <PulkoMandy> which version of Haiku are you running ?
[21:02:31] <KapiX> sdllibs is compiled with gcc2?
[21:02:35] <KapiX> gcc2h
[21:02:50] <PulkoMandy> the optional package is compiled for your main gcc, so yes, gcc2 for you
[21:03:14] <PulkoMandy> you need to get the other libs (the gcc4 ones), put them in /boot/common/libs/gcc4/ folder
[21:03:23] <PulkoMandy> then fix sdl-config to look there
[21:04:04] <KapiX> hmm
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[21:04:07] <KapiX> changed compiler
[21:04:10] <PulkoMandy> looking up the files ...
[21:04:18] <KapiX> and now got A LOT of linking errors
[21:04:55] <PulkoMandy> you need to make clean then
[21:05:12] <KapiX> xD
[21:05:14] <tidux> either that or you don't have the gcc4 versions of everything
[21:05:15] <KapiX> thanks :D
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[21:06:30] <PulkoMandy> (get this one anyway, and put it in /boot/common/bin, so it will give more useful errors next time)
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[22:31:53] <KapiX> is it just me or cmake is crashing on gcc4h?
[22:34:19] <PulkoMandy> I only use gcc2, never went into problems
[22:34:28] <PulkoMandy> but I didn't build too big projects
[22:35:44] <KapiX> gcc2 complained about \ strays in 7z SDK
[22:36:22] <PulkoMandy> you need to convert these files to unix line endings
[22:36:23] <KapiX> but after cmake crashed I thought it would be easier to make those multiline macros singleline :P
[22:36:50] <PulkoMandy> gcc2 is puzzled by windows line ending (\r\n) in macros
[22:36:58] <DHowett> gcc2 is puzzled by a lot of things
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[22:37:11] <PulkoMandy> well, not that much usually
[22:37:16] <DHowett> too bad we can't keep gcc2 mangled symbols around that point to the gcc4 counterparts ;)
[22:37:22] <DHowett> (and build all gcc4)
[22:37:27] <DHowett> I realize the API is way too huge for that
[22:37:28] <KapiX> I've figured that out, though I didn't see an option to convert the files in Pe
[22:37:34] <PulkoMandy> symbol mangling isn't the only problem
[22:37:37] <KapiX> maybe I'm just bling
[22:37:39] <KapiX> blind*
[22:37:43] <DHowett> PulkoMandy: i know - structure sizing, alignment, packing
[22:37:44] <PulkoMandy> mh... there's one but I don't remember where
[22:38:14] <PulkoMandy> here
[22:38:23] <PulkoMandy> pe > window > file options
[22:38:46] <KapiX> ok, thanks
[22:38:57] <PulkoMandy> DHowett: yes, and it wouldn't solve the out of date libc and stdc++, and some others ...
[22:39:08] <DHowett> PulkoMandy: indeed.
[22:39:12] <DHowett> i was not being overly serious ;)
[22:39:51] <KapiX> ok, something blinked and my res went from 1280x1024 to 1024x768
[22:39:58] <KapiX> I guess it's VMs fault
[22:40:13] <KapiX> thanks for your help
[22:40:58] <KapiX> it works :D
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[22:48:00] <PulkoMandy> DHowett: still... we need to get R1 out and move on :)
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[23:04:25] <KapiX> ok
[23:04:29] <KapiX> one last question
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[23:04:48] <KapiX> when I run my app from Tracker it closes right away
[23:04:57] <KapiX> and when I run it using Terminal
[23:05:01] <KapiX> everything is fine
[23:05:12] <KapiX> SDL problem or I did something wrong?
[23:05:16] <PulkoMandy> it needs some files in the current dir ?
[23:05:23] <KapiX> yes
[23:05:29] <PulkoMandy> when running from tracker the current dir is boot/home
[23:05:33] <PulkoMandy> so it won't find them
[23:05:36] <KapiX> ok
[23:05:48] <KapiX> is there any way to change it?
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[23:06:26] <PulkoMandy> one trick to detect this is look at getenv("TERM"), if it returns null or "dumb" you are running from tracker and need to chdir to the right place
[23:06:41] <PulkoMandy> (you can get the full path to the app in argv[0] I think)
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[23:07:06] <KapiX> ok, I will try that another time
[23:07:54] <KapiX> chdir using system or there is a special C++ function?
[23:08:01] <KapiX> system()*
[23:08:25] <PulkoMandy> chdir is a C function
[23:08:35] <KapiX> ok
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[23:18:08] <jjido> Is it a good time to try installing Haiku natively on my Mac?
[23:19:04] <DHowett> jjido: depends on the mac
[23:19:32] <DHowett> Newer ones make it somewhat displeased (like, my air 3,1 causes instant KDL that doesn't even display the text on the screen, possibly due to the keyboard/trackpad)
[23:19:39] <DHowett> works alright on my iMac11,1
[23:21:07] <jjido> MacBook Air 11" 3,1
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[23:36:55] <DHowett> jjido: i'd say - unlikely to work well. :P
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[23:37:21] <jjido> DHowett: all right, thanks for telling me
[23:37:37] <jjido> will have to use a VM for now
[23:37:52] <DHowett> aye
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