May 1, 2012 
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May 1, 2012 [00:07:56] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[00:08:01] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega|away[00:15:57] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[00:24:08] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:25:19] *** luko has joined #haiku[00:26:32] *** TheLemonMan has left #haiku[00:28:40] *** dcase has quit IRC[00:43:36] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[00:44:23] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[00:45:00] *** sarcas has quit IRC[00:45:25] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #394 of x86-FreeBSD-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-FreeBSD-host/builds/394[00:59:26] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[01:04:01] <CIA-37> haiku.master: czeidler * hrev44085 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=a937ffd :[01:04:02] <CIA-37> Make the menu window not resizable.[01:04:02] <CIA-37> Right clicking the menu border showed the resize arrow and sometimes even made it possible to resize the menu.[01:04:10] *** synchris has quit IRC[01:06:34] *** synchris has joined #haiku[01:06:35] *** synchris has joined #haiku[01:07:45] *** synchris has quit IRC[01:08:51] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:08:51] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:09:12] <CIA-37> haiku.master: anevilyak * hrev44086 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=119c90f :[01:09:13] <CIA-37> Fix remaining part of #8094.[01:09:13] <CIA-37> Set an explicit minimum size on the source path view, in order to prevent it[01:09:13] <CIA-37> from unduly influencing the initial size constraints of the window. (Belatedly)[01:09:13] <CIA-37> fixes the remaining part of #8094.[01:16:58] *** GridCube has quit IRC[01:17:35] *** synchris has joined #haiku[01:25:04] *** synchris has joined #haiku[01:25:04] *** synchris has joined #haiku[01:55:29] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[01:56:49] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[02:17:59] * SMCollins kicks Haiku irc channel[02:24:59] * dreamed frowns[02:25:22] <dreamed> don't force me to link you to a video of a band I found last night[02:25:55] * SMCollins is not affraid of videos[02:26:12] <dreamed> you say that[02:26:22] <dreamed> but this is a norwegian hiphop group that uses a piano accordion[02:27:09] <SMCollins> link it, I ain't scared, I might like it, you never to know, could be worth a laugh ?[02:30:05] <dreamed> http://www.hoodoo.co.nz/post/22115186663/i-kind-of-want-to-buy-this-to-prank-passengers-in[02:30:12] <dreamed> can't find other youtube links atm[02:31:12] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[02:33:19] *** oco2 has quit IRC[02:35:05] <SMCollins> I got no way to grab that video booted into haiku[02:35:53] <dreamed> clearly you're just afraid of norwegian hip hop that uses a piano accordion, or you'd find a way.[02:35:54] *** abbie has joined #haiku[02:36:36] <SMCollins> I could likely find allot of way, I don't want to invest that much effort[02:36:54] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[02:37:01] <dreamed> ah, so you admit it![02:41:46] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[02:43:31] *** synchris has quit IRC[02:47:03] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[02:52:49] *** kcj has joined #haiku[02:54:09] *** Per_Vers has joined #haiku[02:54:47] <Per_Vers> Hello. I just installed the latest Haiku nightly in VirtualBox on my laptop. I have a few problems.[02:55:34] <Per_Vers> I try to install Ubertuber. But when I run it, it says it has encountered an error which prevents it from running.[02:55:57] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[02:57:55] *** unthdarr has joined #haiku[02:58:48] *** abbie has quit IRC[03:00:36] *** Advant has joined #haiku[03:00:36] *** Advant has joined #haiku[03:02:33] *** Advant has left #haiku[03:03:43] <Premislaus> Per_Vers: Python installed? http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/entertainment/internet-network/ubertuber#comment-8816[03:04:39] <Per_Vers> My laptop has widescreen. I run Haiku in VirtualBox, and it works. But it is black on the sides. Haiku´s settings for screen resolution don´t go any higher than 1600x1200, but my laptop is 1920x1080[03:05:13] <Per_Vers> yes, I installed python using installoptionalpackage -i python[03:06:56] * dreamed is fairly sure he was running Haiku with vmware fusion at 1920x1200 on his mac[03:07:46] *** Barrett has quit IRC[03:08:36] <Skipp_OSX> yeah, I definitely ran at 1920x1080 using VMWare Fushion... not sure about VBox[03:08:42] <Skipp_OSX> err Fusion[03:08:52] <Premislaus> Per_Vers http://db.tt/Jsfxk2oZ[03:09:08] <Premislaus> from - http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/entertainment/internet-network/ubertuber#comment-8703[03:10:01] *** kjamc has joined #haiku[03:10:09] <Premislaus> works?[03:11:27] *** paul0 has quit IRC[03:11:32] <SMCollins> ubertuber works, you just need to instal python[03:12:01] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[03:12:44] *** markos_ has quit IRC[03:13:00] *** GridCube has joined #haiku[03:13:31] <Per_Vers> Yes, that file worked .[03:14:24] <Premislaus> ok :)[03:14:26] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[03:14:44] <Per_Vers> But why did it work? The one I downloaded from Haikuware did not.[03:15:17] <Premislaus> Haiku API changes[03:15:34] <Premislaus> still alpha period[03:15:48] <Per_Vers> So, this was a newer version of Ubertuber than the one on Haikuware?[03:16:13] <Premislaus> nightly and alpha3 are not compatible[03:16:37] <Premislaus> after the release of alpha4 there will be updated[03:17:28] <Per_Vers> Sounds nice.[03:18:22] <Per_Vers> But what cabn I do with screen resolution? I have a widescreen monitor in my laptop.[03:19:27] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[03:19:42] <SMCollins> did installing python work ?[03:19:45] <Premislaus> You can report a bug[03:19:49] <Per_Vers> Is there a setting in Virtualbox for this? Haiku does not give the option that I need, which is 1920x1080[03:20:01] <dreamed> I think I ran Fusion full screen[03:20:04] <dreamed> is there a fullscreen option?[03:20:22] <Premislaus> http://dev.haiku-os.org/[03:20:39] <Per_Vers> Python was already installed. First thing I did. But Ubertuber runs fine now.[03:20:46] <Premislaus> SMCollins no[03:21:04] <Premislaus> in the commentary was a version for the nightly[03:21:21] <SMCollins> nightly don't come with Python anymore iirc[03:21:26] <Per_Vers> In VirtualBox I pressed right ctrl and F[03:21:54] <Per_Vers> Haiku is "fullscreen" with black on the sides.[03:22:41] <Skipp_OSX> Per_Vers: there is nothing you can do, filing a bug report won't help[03:23:26] <Skipp_OSX> VBox uses the VESA video which doesn't support the resolution you are looking for, either run VMWare which uses a slightly better video driver or run on bare metal.[03:23:54] <Premislaus> Skipp_OSX http://jscipione.tumblr.com/ - you site don't work[03:23:57] * SMCollins chants bare metal, bare metal, bare metal, bare metal[03:24:10] <Skipp_OSX> Premislaus: I changed it to http://insightfactory.tumblr.com/[03:24:17] <Premislaus> ok[03:24:28] <Skipp_OSX> update your bookmarks :) Sorry, I didn't like the URL[03:24:38] <saivert> so VESA is only a fixed set of resolutions?[03:24:51] <saivert> it doesn't query the graphics hardware for whatever resolutions it supports?[03:24:59] <Per_Vers> I would run Haiku on bare metal. Believe me. But Haiku lacks drivers for my laptops.[03:25:08] <saivert> and again the graphics hardware would have to query the display connected to it[03:25:26] <Skipp_OSX> saivert: basically, it does some work to try to detect your display and add more resolutions, but, it isn't perfect.[03:25:38] <SMCollins> Per_vers, what drivers are you missing ?[03:25:50] <saivert> unless Haiku graphics subsystem supports manually setting the resolution[03:25:52] <Skipp_OSX> Per_Vers: well, I'm sorry about that, but, VMWare is your other choice[03:25:55] *** abbie has joined #haiku[03:25:59] <Per_Vers> sound and networking.[03:26:16] <Per_Vers> OK, I will try WMWare.[03:26:47] <SMCollins> wireless ?[03:26:57] <Per_Vers> Running Haiku with wrong resolution is so annoying :-([03:27:27] <Per_Vers> Yes, wired networking works fine on all my laptops.[03:27:31] <saivert> and on laptop screens you can't change the scaling options usually[03:27:58] <Premislaus> You know if someone is working on bugs with wi-fi?[03:28:07] <Per_Vers> One laptop recently got wireless support in Haiku :-)[03:28:21] <saivert> wifi is ported from FreeBSD which has fewer drivers than Linux has[03:28:29] <Per_Vers> But the same laptop has severe issues with sound.[03:28:44] <SMCollins> hda ?[03:29:16] <Per_Vers> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-bugs/Haiku-8227-Haiku-makes-scraping-or-chopping-noises[03:30:29] <SMCollins> your not likely to get audio support unless nvidia release specs for the chipset or alsa has a driver to use for refrence.[03:31:50] <Premislaus> producers...[03:32:24] <SMCollins> in your bios, can you set the audio chipset to HDA ?[03:33:22] <Per_Vers> rebooting the laptop...[03:34:03] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[03:35:03] <Per_Vers> Cant´t find an option for that. Any ideas where to search?[03:35:27] <SMCollins> hmmm, usually in advanced options[03:35:36] <SMCollins> I don't have a asus g73w to look at here[03:36:22] <Per_Vers> Nothing about audio chipset in the advanced section. :-([03:37:09] <Premislaus> Skipp_OSX You work on the interface, may you be interested in my idea - http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8304[03:37:40] <Per_Vers> What is Intel (VMX) Virtualization Technology? Is it relevant for Haiku?[03:38:42] <Per_Vers> When enabled, a VMM can utilize the additional hardware capabilities provided by Vanderpool Technology.[03:38:48] <Skipp_OSX> Premislaus: I am interested in working on the interface, but my plate is full[03:39:09] <Premislaus> ok[03:40:04] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[03:41:45] <Per_Vers> I will try VMware. Can I use VMWware View Open Client from Ubuntu repos?[03:42:14] <Per_Vers> Or is that something completely different?[03:42:45] <dreamed> view is a vdi[03:42:48] <dreamed> you want vmware player[03:43:09] <Per_Vers> Must be downloaded from website?[03:43:21] <dreamed> I think so, last time I installed it on my kubuntu box[03:43:55] <SMCollins> the guy from nerds-central seemed to really dig haiku os, on bare metal "with supported hardware" he would have had a much easier go of it[03:44:49] <Per_Vers> I must register to download it?[03:45:02] <SMCollins> to download what ? vmware ?[03:45:08] <Per_Vers> yes[03:45:19] <SMCollins> there are torrents out there[03:45:35] <MindChild> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvF7YS0Y7jU[03:45:46] <Skipp_OSX> VMWare Player is free btw[03:46:14] <SMCollins> I know that vmware is free, I just hate the data mining[03:47:20] <dreamed> do you use google?[03:47:21] <dreamed> just saying[03:48:12] <Per_Vers> I can try VMware some other day. I must go now. Thank you for all your help :-)[03:49:18] *** Per_Vers has left #haiku[03:49:56] *** abbie has quit IRC[03:52:09] *** dauoalagio has joined #haiku[03:52:43] <dauoalagio> Has anyone attempted installing Haiku onto a Chromebook (particularly the cr-48)? You can't access the bios so I'm not sure how it would be done[03:53:37] <SMCollins> you would have to reflash the bios[03:55:03] <dauoalagio> ah, and then I could just boot from usb?[03:55:41] <SMCollins> if, you could reflash the bios, then yes, and if there is a bios that would work for what you want[03:56:22] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[03:57:04] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:57:55] <CIA-37> haiku.master: anevilyak * hrev44087 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=aa19448 :[03:57:55] <CIA-37> Make memory menu items 64-bit safe.[03:57:55] <CIA-37> Redo the precision levels of various calculations in the memory bar items[03:57:55] <CIA-37> so they don't overflow on systems with > 4GB of RAM. Previously one could[03:57:55] <CIA-37> see fun results like the kernel using negative amounts of memory on such[03:57:56] <CIA-37> systems.[03:58:03] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[03:58:16] *** HaikuUser is now known as techhaiku[04:01:41] *** techhaiku has quit IRC[04:02:24] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[04:03:51] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[04:08:02] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[04:13:41] *** unthdarr has quit IRC[04:14:44] *** sparc-kly has joined #haiku[04:21:13] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[04:23:05] *** scanty has quit IRC[04:23:28] *** scanty has joined #haiku[04:24:06] *** scanty has quit IRC[04:25:09] *** scanty has joined #haiku[04:26:54] *** scanty has joined #haiku[04:27:20] *** scanty has quit IRC[04:30:13] *** scanty has joined #haiku[04:41:06] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[04:42:07] <SMCollins> wow, yongcong, welcome[04:43:10] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[04:44:34] <SMCollins> hello janrulez[04:46:03] *** [aspirin] has quit IRC[04:46:32] *** [aspirin] has joined #haiku[04:48:13] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[04:48:33] <yongcong> SMCollins: hiya[04:49:37] <SMCollins> How goes the GSOC prep work ?[04:52:02] <yongcong> hmm, I'm reading the related documents[04:52:12] <yongcong> no coding these days[04:52:40] <SMCollins> I wish you much sucess, even though haiku doesn't seem to kill my laptop battery, more battery life is always better ![04:53:23] <yongcong> thanks[04:53:58] <yongcong> have you compared the battery life under haiku with the one under Linux/windows?[04:54:45] <yongcong> especially when most time the system is idle[04:54:58] <yongcong> for example, reading documents[04:55:17] <yongcong> or just keep the system idle there while do nothing[04:56:13] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[04:58:57] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[05:05:26] *** hamishm has quit IRC[05:05:45] <SMCollins> yeah, my laptop usually lasts about 6-7 hours depending on workload[05:05:57] <SMCollins> it'll go about 8.5 hours in stand by[05:06:09] <SMCollins> but its a old 1.3ghz pentium m laptop cpu[05:06:35] <SMCollins> no noticeable difference between haiku/linux/windows xp[05:07:31] *** dauoalagio has quit IRC[05:09:21] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[05:09:37] <yongcong> hmm[05:09:41] <yongcong> interesting[05:10:25] <yongcong> per my test, the power efficiency is: haiku < linux < win7[05:10:51] *** dobroerlanger has quit IRC[05:11:03] <yongcong> the power efficiency is a global system issue[05:11:26] <yongcong> my project focus on cpu deep idle stage[05:11:43] <yongcong> FWICT, haiku only makes use of c1 idle state[05:11:59] <yongcong> even the platform/cpu supports more deeper idle state[05:12:29] <yongcong> the later cpus, the more power difference is[05:15:42] <SMCollins> yeah, and that could be the reality of it, the newer cpu's offer more power saving[05:21:49] *** abbie has joined #haiku[05:24:31] *** abbie has quit IRC[05:24:37] *** abbie has joined #haiku[05:32:15] *** zerothis has left #haiku[05:32:39] <SMCollins> off to sleep[05:32:42] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[05:47:47] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[05:48:03] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[05:49:48] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[05:56:21] *** GridCube has left #haiku[05:58:25] *** abbie has quit IRC[06:23:02] <dreamed> hmm.. 2 cameras now[06:23:03] <dreamed> such a bad[06:33:33] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[06:34:52] <HaikuUser> hi, does anyone know where i can download a copy of the 3dmov demo that[06:35:13] <HaikuUser> will run on haiku? I've been searching and can't find it, yet there is a video on[06:35:31] <HaikuUser> youtube showing 3dmov working under haiku. thanks[06:40:37] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[06:53:34] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[06:54:21] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[07:05:08] *** yongcong has quit IRC[07:33:42] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[07:36:18] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[07:38:50] <arfonzo> morning all--has anyone tried using SWIG to provide wrappers to the Haiku API?[07:39:49] <arfonzo> I have had some kind of success compiling an object for ruby, however can't seem to use it within ruby, just wondering if SWIG is known to work, or for example we should use libcharlemange or there is something else.[07:40:18] <arfonzo> ^ I managed to use swig to get a .so of "Be.h". I'm pretty sure this is the wrong thing to do.[07:48:37] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[07:48:43] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[07:58:47] *** fhein has joined #haiku[08:06:47] <Skipp_OSX> ummm...[08:29:58] *** sparc-kly has quit IRC[08:49:35] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:05:53] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[09:06:16] <arfonzo> hi PulkoMandy[09:10:07] *** swarfega|away is now known as swarfega[09:13:17] <PulkoMandy> hi[09:18:01] *** [r4] has quit IRC[09:31:23] <kcj> Hello.[09:42:06] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[09:42:22] <arfonzo> hm, I've had more luck using SWIG on BeBuild.h...[09:42:32] <arfonzo> irb(main):002:0> BeBuild::B_HAIKU_VERSION[09:42:32] <arfonzo> => 769[09:44:14] *** tqh has joined #haiku[09:58:19] *** wry has joined #haiku[09:59:26] *** SmoothSage has joined #haiku[10:03:08] *** SmoothSage has left #haiku[10:23:34] *** wry has quit IRC[10:25:00] *** wry has joined #haiku[10:29:34] *** klonk has joined #haiku[10:34:16] *** klonk has left #haiku[10:38:13] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[10:48:23] *** adb_ has quit IRC[10:51:15] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[10:53:12] *** adb_ has joined #haiku[11:01:12] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega|away[11:03:56] *** adb_ has quit IRC[11:05:38] *** TMM has joined #haiku[11:18:46] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[11:28:17] *** synchris has joined #haiku[11:28:17] *** synchris has joined #haiku[11:29:48] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[11:30:05] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[11:52:35] *** stef has quit IRC[11:52:48] *** stef has joined #haiku[11:52:50] *** korli has joined #haiku[11:52:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[12:04:18] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[12:21:05] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[12:25:36] *** wry has quit IRC[12:31:52] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[12:45:39] *** luko has joined #haiku[12:51:08] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[12:58:30] *** xplt has joined #haiku[13:01:34] *** Advant has joined #haiku[13:01:35] *** Advant has joined #haiku[13:02:05] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[13:02:49] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[13:07:21] *** duvjones has quit IRC[13:13:35] *** yongcong1 has joined #haiku[13:14:38] *** yongcong has quit IRC[13:16:43] *** xplt has quit IRC[13:16:58] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[13:18:15] *** Advant has left #haiku[13:29:50] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[13:29:52] <Premislaus> hi[13:31:57] *** xplt has joined #haiku[13:32:01] <johnny_b> hi[13:32:38] *** yongcong1 has quit IRC[13:34:57] *** jayrulez_ has joined #haiku[13:34:57] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[13:36:54] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[13:39:38] *** xplt has quit IRC[13:44:07] *** luko has quit IRC[13:48:28] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[13:54:46] *** dobroerlanger has joined #haiku[13:55:54] *** synchris has quit IRC[13:57:36] *** xplt has joined #haiku[14:00:50] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[14:05:36] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[14:17:56] *** dobroerlanger has quit IRC[14:21:43] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[14:24:55] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[14:41:55] <johnny_b> wth[14:42:14] <johnny_b> no space availanle for installing the bootloader???[14:42:34] <johnny_b> available[14:43:42] <johnny_b> quite interesting ...[14:50:27] *** kcj has quit IRC[14:53:46] *** pvalue is now known as pvalue|aw[14:54:16] <johnny_b> any idea why i can't login into the trac? :s[15:01:24] *** synchris has joined #haiku[15:01:24] *** synchris has joined #haiku[15:04:24] <Premislaus> johnny_b maybe wrong password? upper and lower case...[15:08:48] <johnny_b> nay, i requested a new pass and the same result[15:11:34] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[15:12:18] *** XenoDuck has joined #haiku[15:12:22] *** JuniperJaxx has quit IRC[15:17:21] <Premislaus> Login also need to properly type[15:24:27] <johnny_b> copy-paste rocks :)[15:26:38] *** PasNox has quit IRC[15:26:55] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[15:27:55] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[15:27:55] *** Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D|Zzz[15:36:35] <Premislaus> BTW, the copy-paste often space is added at the end[15:40:59] <johnny_b> typed in, copied, the same result :|[15:44:17] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[15:47:39] *** luko has joined #haiku[15:48:38] <luko> hi folks[15:58:37] <johnny_b> hey luko[15:58:39] <Premislaus> hi[15:59:44] *** swarfega|away is now known as swarfega[16:00:09] *** LucasCampos has joined #haiku[16:01:58] *** spaso has joined #haiku[16:02:12] <spaso> diver_[16:02:18] <spaso> are you here?[16:03:20] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[16:03:29] <luko> yesterday i must reinstall haiku because when i after 4 days run haiku i get white debug death screen after load all icons, but desktop not start.. some errors with vnode, be fs[16:04:22] <luko> the true is that i test on real hw Fedora linux distro, and after back to ubuntu[16:05:03] *** LucasCampos has quit IRC[16:07:33] <spaso> While command 'make' is running for qt 4.8.x source, I get after some time error: cannot find -llocale[16:07:53] <spaso> I used instructions for compiling qt from here: http://pastebin.com/xs259HHN[16:11:27] *** tidux has joined #haiku[16:11:36] <tidux> hi guys[16:12:07] <tidux> http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/the-dawn-of-haiku-os/0[16:12:12] <tidux> anyone we know in that picture?[16:13:10] <Premislaus> tidux: http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/humdinger/2012-04-06_short_begeistert_025_report[16:18:19] *** Forca has joined #haiku[16:18:46] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[16:20:51] <luko> spaso, i find this page[16:20:59] <luko> with qt, but not tested[16:21:00] <luko> http://poorcoding.com/art/haiku.html[16:22:25] <tidux> oooh, a better terminal[16:22:26] <tidux> nice[16:22:32] *** yongcong has quit IRC[16:22:37] <tidux> although that may be less necessary now[16:22:56] <tidux> I haven't had as many ANSI glitches on recent builds with GNU Screen and they're almost nonexistent with tmux[16:23:31] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[16:24:28] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[16:24:54] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[16:26:20] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[16:26:21] *** Constant_J-C has joined #haiku[16:33:54] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[16:38:49] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[16:46:44] *** david0xffea has joined #haiku[16:46:50] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[16:48:08] *** HaikuUser2 has quit IRC[16:48:31] *** dobroerlanger has joined #haiku[16:52:44] *** Huggy has joined #haiku[16:56:07] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[16:57:17] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[17:02:38] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[17:09:45] *** luko has quit IRC[17:11:12] *** zymoticb has joined #haiku[17:13:10] <zymoticb> Hey guys I'm trying to install Haiku to my second partition and I am having some problems. I let GRUB2 auto-detect Haiku but when it trys to boot it I get a message telling me there is a bad superblock. I am trying to install from source by just using jam -q @profile where the profile is defined as DefineBuildProfile profile : disk : "/dev/sda2". Any clear things I am doing wrong?[17:14:51] *** xplt has quit IRC[17:18:39] <luroh> zymoticb: sounds like it should work to me[17:21:22] <zymoticb> That is what all the information I have been reading seems to indicate as well. I assumed jam overwrote the partition but I was previously formatted to ext3 or 4. Should I zero it out?[17:22:25] <luroh> perhaps just recreate it as an empty partition, without any file system[17:23:07] <luroh> oh wait...you're not on a GPT partitioning scheme, by any chance?[17:23:24] <zymoticb> yea I am. I should have mentioned it sorry![17:23:33] <luroh> those don't work[17:23:52] <zymoticb> right. Its in the befs kernel as a module but not in the boot. I remember[17:24:15] <zymoticb> Any idea if the boot code floating around in the bug tracker works?[17:24:42] <luroh> no idea, you may want to cc yourself to https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8434[17:25:17] *** backb0ne_ has quit IRC[17:28:23] <zymoticb> Okay thanks luroh.[17:28:43] <luroh> np[17:30:04] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[17:30:27] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[17:32:08] *** markos_ has quit IRC[17:34:39] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[17:37:36] *** backb0ne_ has joined #haiku[17:39:13] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[17:39:27] *** luko has joined #haiku[17:45:40] *** backb0ne_ has quit IRC[17:46:00] *** synchris has quit IRC[17:47:21] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[17:49:07] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[17:57:45] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[18:01:58] *** zymoticb has quit IRC[18:06:22] *** synchris has joined #haiku[18:06:22] *** synchris has joined #haiku[18:10:11] *** luko has quit IRC[18:10:47] *** zymoticb has joined #haiku[18:11:54] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[18:13:10] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[18:13:48] *** TMM has left #haiku[18:14:05] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[18:19:38] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[18:19:44] <tidux> zymoticb: I've noticed that GRUB2 autodetect sometimes messes up Haiku by pointing to the wrong partition[18:19:49] <tidux> at least on Debian[18:22:03] <saivert> does Haiku require its partition to be marked as active in order to boot?[18:22:40] <tidux> it can't hurt[18:22:45] <saivert> I had problems with dual boot, Windows 7 and Haiku. I'm using grub as bootloader and had to mark the partition active in order to successfully boot Haiku. otherwise it only showed the boot logo and stalled before the desktop appeared[18:23:22] <saivert> Windows and Linux have no such requirement. they know which partition they are on regardless of any active flags in the partition table[18:23:46] * tidux shrugs[18:24:10] <saivert> so I guess I should make a bug ticket then..[18:24:21] <saivert> after gathering enough evidence[18:24:22] <zymoticb> tidux: I was getting the same result writing the GRUB2 script into grub.cfg myself but thanks for the heads up![18:24:33] <tidux> np[18:24:54] <zymoticb> By any chance could you help me with something else? It is regarding error codes[18:25:14] <tidux> GRUB error 15?[18:25:38] <zymoticb> no within Haiku[18:26:03] <tidux> oh[18:26:28] <zymoticb> I wrote a simple patch to PartitionMapParser and I am unsure the error code to return to be consistient with the code base[18:26:31] <tidux> I actually haven't booted in to Haiku in a while since the lack of cpuidle and soundcard support made it rather unpleasant to use on my laptop[18:26:40] <tidux> heh, that one's over my head[18:26:45] <zymoticb> Okay thanks[18:26:50] <tidux> I actually know more about Linux than Haiku[18:26:56] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[18:27:09] <zymoticb> To the source![18:27:44] *** tr-808 has joined #haiku[18:28:00] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[18:28:26] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[18:37:54] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[18:38:46] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[18:42:55] *** luko has joined #haiku[18:52:38] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[18:53:53] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:55:18] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[18:58:03] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[19:00:35] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[19:00:51] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[19:06:12] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[19:06:19] *** zymoticb has quit IRC[19:06:46] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[19:08:11] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[19:09:08] *** zymoticb has joined #haiku[19:14:19] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[19:15:21] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[19:23:05] *** juaa_ has joined #haiku[19:23:07] *** jua_ has quit IRC[19:27:40] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[19:28:07] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[19:35:37] <bitkid> Hi again[19:35:55] <bitkid> does anyone have time to help me get the mouse working?[19:36:05] <BitPuffin> Because I don't wanna use gtk vim[19:36:07] <bitkid> For anyone who wasn't here yesterday[19:36:10] <BitPuffin> wops[19:36:12] <tidux> what kind of mouse do you have?[19:36:13] <BitPuffin> wrong channel[19:36:15] <BitPuffin> hey everyone[19:36:20] <tidux> hi[19:36:23] <bitkid> hi[19:36:24] <tidux> oh[19:36:47] <bitkid> I have an old computer, that boots Haiku from the live cd[19:36:53] <bitkid> but the mouse does not work[19:37:05] <bitkid> it is an optical usb mouse[19:37:18] <tidux> does it work on other OSes?[19:37:23] <tidux> or other USB ports?[19:37:36] <bitkid> the built in harddrive has ubuntu on it, and the mouse works perfectly in there[19:37:47] <bitkid> so it is not hardware problem[19:37:51] <luroh> hi bitkid, i forgot to ask you yesterday what laptop model you had[19:40:15] <bitkid> luroh: It is not a laptop[19:40:25] <bitkid> it is an old all-in-one computer[19:40:37] <luroh> oh, i see[19:40:47] <bitkid> an attempt to make an iMac competitor :-)[19:41:10] <bitkid> it is a 1Ghz celeron[19:41:18] *** dcase has joined #haiku[19:41:18] *** pvalue|aw is now known as pvalue[19:41:27] *** rennj has quit IRC[19:41:35] <bitkid> luroh: so, do you know a way to debug this, so we can find the problem?[19:41:45] <luroh> i guess you haven't had any luck getting into the BIOS settings?[19:41:58] <bitkid> nope[19:42:28] <luroh> right. did we find out whether usb works at all or not?[19:42:36] <luroh> under Haiku, i mean[19:43:02] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[19:43:27] *** korli has quit IRC[19:43:31] <luroh> i remember you said the keyboard was working fine but i don't remember if it was usb or ps/2[19:43:33] <bitkid> I don't know how to check that[19:43:38] <bitkid> oh yes[19:43:43] <bitkid> the keyboard is ps2[19:44:33] <luroh> ah ok. if you have a usb stick handy, you could try booting up without the mouse connected and then insert the stick[19:44:40] <bitkid> if I add a usb keyboard it does not react[19:44:49] <luroh> ah[19:45:12] <luroh> do you have an usb hub lying around, per chance?[19:45:31] <bitkid> yes[19:45:47] <luroh> you could try connecting the mouse through that one[19:46:22] <bitkid> does it need to have external power?[19:46:36] <luroh> depends on the usb hub, i guess[19:46:54] <luroh> most of the ones i've seen do[19:47:29] <bitkid> it can do both, but I don't think I have a psu for it[19:47:31] *** dobroerlanger has quit IRC[19:48:06] <luroh> i see, perhaps just try without power then[19:48:10] <bitkid> there is no change[19:48:26] <luroh> ok, either it doesn't help or it needs power[19:48:28] <bitkid> the light in the hub goes on, but still no mouse movement[19:48:49] <luroh> have you tried rebooting it?[19:49:04] <luroh> with the mouse connected via the hub, that is[19:49:46] <bitkid> I'll try that[19:50:13] *** Barrett has quit IRC[19:51:11] *** Barrett|Haiku has joined #haiku[19:52:58] <bitkid> luroh: no change[19:53:30] <luroh> bitkid: ok, time to try safe mode - keep <shift> pressed during early boot to access the boot menu[19:54:13] <luroh> navigate to safe mode options, enable safe mode and continue booting[19:55:41] <luroh> as you can see, there are a bunch of other options in there that you can try as well[19:55:55] <luroh> for now, i need to go grab some grub, be back later :)[19:56:50] <bitkid> grub?[20:05:56] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[20:06:23] <saivert> grub some grab?[20:07:51] *** tqh has joined #haiku[20:12:14] <bitkid> none of it changes anything[20:16:26] <bitkid> I have now opened a shell[20:17:08] <bitkid> is there anything I can type that will give me any indication of anything? (mouse related of course ;-))[20:20:26] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[20:21:56] *** pvalue has quit IRC[20:25:40] *** spaso has quit IRC[20:26:32] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[20:28:26] *** pvalue has joined #haiku[20:32:00] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[20:32:57] *** bitkid has quit IRC[20:34:10] *** bitkid has joined #haiku[20:34:24] <bitkid> damnit... computer chrased[20:35:50] *** markos_ has quit IRC[20:42:16] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[20:43:33] <luroh> bitkid: if you're able to type into a terminal window, what does 'listusb' say?[20:44:08] <bitkid> luroh: USBKit: usb_raw not published[20:44:41] <luroh> ok, that means Haiku hasn't identified any usb controller[20:45:38] <luroh> i think you may have to file a bug ticket[20:45:58] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, did you ever get into the BIOS?[20:46:08] <bitkid> Skipp_OSX: no :-([20:46:21] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, so it could be that USB is disabled in the BIOS[20:46:29] <Skipp_OSX> for all we know[20:46:35] <bitkid> Skipp_OSX: no, because the mouse works in ubuntu[20:47:06] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, so much for that idea...[20:47:13] <bitkid> :-)[20:47:41] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, I find it a little hard to believe that Haiku can't recognize your USB unless you've got something really weird going on.[20:47:53] *** Transformer has joined #haiku[20:49:12] <bitkid> Skipp_OSX: yeah, me too[20:49:21] <bitkid> Skipp_OSX: do you have any other ideas?[20:49:22] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, go ahead and file a bug report, make sure to include a syslog though[20:50:09] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, um, no, not really. Other than getting into the BIOS to see if there is some weird setting going on, I have no clue[20:50:26] *** Transformer has quit IRC[20:50:33] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, it is possible that we simply don't support your USB controller, and the syslog should tell us that if that is the case.[20:50:48] <Skipp_OSX> although, like I said, I doubt it.[20:51:10] <luroh> bitkid: the output of 'lspci -nn' from ubuntu can't hurt either[20:52:05] <bitkid> I can get into the bios, I just can't save new settings[20:53:27] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, right, can you tell me what the USB settings look like there?[20:54:04] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[20:54:14] *** GeekShadow has quit IRC[20:55:03] <bitkid> just a sec[20:55:11] <bitkid> looking at the syslog[20:55:44] <bitkid> the syslog says that the vendor of the usb controller is SiS[20:56:12] <Skipp_OSX> Do you have an AMI or Phoenix BIOS?[20:56:13] *** Barrett|Haiku has quit IRC[20:57:14] *** geist__ has joined #haiku[20:57:20] <bitkid> the syslog says a bunch of things about the usb controller ending with "Capabilities: (not supported)"[20:57:40] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, can you pastebin it?[20:59:03] <bitkid> I just rebootet to get into the bios[20:59:22] <bitkid> I think I can actually pastebin it, because I think I do have network working[20:59:43] <bitkid> so I can just save it to a file and copy that file to another computer[20:59:52] <bitkid> and pastebin it from that[21:00:05] <bitkid> the BIOS is by Insyde Software SCU[21:00:28] *** geist has quit IRC[21:01:09] *** GeekShadow has joined #haiku[21:01:22] <bitkid> so what do you want to know from the bios?[21:03:40] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[21:03:46] *** Stellar has joined #haiku[21:06:15] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[21:08:39] *** GeekShadow has quit IRC[21:09:23] <Skipp_OSX> USB Legacy Support, off or on?[21:09:35] <bitkid> on[21:12:49] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, you are gonna want to turn that off for sure[21:13:02] <bitkid> damnit[21:13:06] <Skipp_OSX> I'm not sure if that is your problem, but should definitely be off.[21:15:52] <CIA-37> haiku.master: siarzhuk * hrev44088 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=9930418 :[21:15:52] <CIA-37> Fix the device lookup algorithm[21:15:52] <CIA-37> * Fix the device lookup algorithm - sync with correct version used in usb_asix;[21:15:52] <CIA-37> * Small code style fix.[21:17:47] <bitkid> Skipp_OSX: nice, I have the syslog file now[21:18:19] *** Barrett|Haiku has joined #haiku[21:20:32] <bitkid> Skipp_OSX: http://pastebin.com/AcD4DfSZ[21:22:04] *** Stellar|2 has joined #haiku[21:22:37] <bitkid> it actually says "usb ohci: found device with invalid IRQ - check IRQ assignement" multiple times[21:23:06] *** sambarino has joined #haiku[21:23:44] *** david0xffea has quit IRC[21:24:24] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[21:25:19] *** Stellar|2 has joined #haiku[21:25:25] *** Stellar has quit IRC[21:25:50] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[21:26:11] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, sounds like it is having trouble assigning IRQs[21:26:30] <tidux> in b4 ISA USB card[21:26:31] <Skipp_OSX> probably a bunch of times for your root hubs and devices.[21:28:19] <bitkid> is there anything we can do about that?[21:29:22] *** geist__ is now known as geist[21:29:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o geist[21:29:34] <Skipp_OSX> bitkid, i don't know, turn off legacy USB support[21:29:55] <Skipp_OSX> maybe[21:30:36] <bitkid> heh[21:31:07] <Skipp_OSX> It looks like a standard SiS OHCI USB 1.1 controller to me, should work.[21:32:01] *** GeekShadow has joined #haiku[21:42:12] <Skipp_OSX> get a screwdriver unplug that battery get into your BIOS turn off Legacy support[21:44:24] <luroh> bitkid: have you found any BIOS updates for your system floating around?[21:44:55] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[21:45:28] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[21:48:32] *** yourpalal has joined #haiku[21:51:29] *** dcase has quit IRC[21:52:24] <CIA-37> Caya: barrett * r262 /trunk/application/ (ContactLinker.cpp ContactLinker.h views/RosterItem.cpp) : Added a little bitmap at the left of the avatar in the contact list, that show the icon of the contact's protocol. Added a needed little method in the ContactLinker to get the contact protocol's bitmap as well.[21:53:19] *** abbie has joined #haiku[21:56:18] *** fhein has quit IRC[21:59:26] *** Forca has quit IRC[21:59:36] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[22:03:09] *** {V} has quit IRC[22:03:14] *** {V} has joined #haiku[22:04:05] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[22:04:22] <bitkid> luroh: I haven't looked for one[22:05:42] <luroh> i guess that would be your best bet[22:06:48] *** DHowett has quit IRC[22:08:25] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[22:09:28] *** DHowett has joined #haiku[22:09:28] *** DHowett has joined #haiku[22:10:14] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[22:14:24] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[22:15:23] <CIA-37> haiku.master: korli * hrev44089 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=2b31b4a : (log message trimmed)[22:15:24] <CIA-37> Work in progress on xHCI bus driver. [3 commits][22:15:24] <CIA-37> * added more traces, coding style[22:15:24] <CIA-37> * added xhci_td, xhci_endpoint structs.[22:15:24] <CIA-37> * SubmitRequest: this links a 3-stage TD control request into[22:15:24] <CIA-37> the endpoint ring.[22:15:25] <CIA-37> * _InsertEndpointForPipe: when a pipe is created, configure the[22:19:32] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[22:19:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aldeck[22:23:12] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[22:26:35] <bitkid> I think I'll try taking the darn thing apart again tomorrow[22:26:54] <bitkid> but now ... bed[22:32:07] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[22:33:21] *** aldeck_ has joined #haiku[22:33:31] *** abbie has quit IRC[22:33:43] *** oco2 has quit IRC[22:34:15] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[22:35:57] *** orbital_fox has joined #haiku[22:36:38] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[22:40:38] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[22:40:53] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[22:42:17] *** korli has joined #haiku[22:42:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[22:47:54] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[22:49:17] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[22:49:26] *** GeekShadow has quit IRC[22:50:24] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[22:51:46] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[22:54:10] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[22:55:22] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:10:47] *** rennj has joined #haiku[23:13:06] *** GeekShadow has joined #haiku[23:14:08] <CIA-37> Caya: barrett * r263 /trunk/application/ (5 files) : Setted the Person icon from haiku artwork as default contact icon.[23:18:12] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:18:34] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[23:26:18] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[23:31:18] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[23:34:26] <CIA-37> haiku-webkit: aldeck * r587 /webkit/trunk/WebKit/haiku/WebPositive/ (SettingsWindow.cpp support/FontSelectionView.cpp) : * B_TRANSLATE_CONTEXT is now B_TRANSLATION_CONTEXT as per the recent change in Haiku, cf. hrev44041[23:35:20] <arfonzo> evening all[23:38:28] *** kcj has joined #haiku[23:38:56] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[23:42:09] <tidux> hi[23:43:10] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[23:44:38] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[23:51:13] *** luroh has quit IRC[23:56:37] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[23:59:31] <CIA-37> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev44090 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=5426ff9 :[23:59:31] <CIA-37> system loader: Initial work on new rasberrypi_arm loader[23:59:31] <CIA-37> * Used routerboard loader as a base skel[23:59:31] <CIA-37> * May just be temporary if u-boot ever gets Raspberry Pi[23:59:31] <CIA-37> support