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[00:50:09] <CIA-37> HaikuPorts: mmu_man * r1874 /haikuporter/trunk/haikuporter http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1874  : Add support for fossil SCM URIs in .bep files.
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[01:14:28] <CIA-37> HaikuPorts: mmu_man * r1875 /haikuports/trunk/dev-vcs/fossil/fossil-1.22-fossil.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1875  : Add a .bep to build fossil from its own repo.
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[03:18:59] <CIA-37> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev44067 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=f73d1f4 :
[03:19:00] <CIA-37> Cache the lastMousedOverItem before showing tooltip.
[03:19:00] <CIA-37> Optimization, only update the tooltip if not the same as the cached
[03:19:00] <CIA-37> last moused over item. That way the same application name won't
[03:19:00] <CIA-37> keep getting set over and over again.
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[03:38:20] <SMCollins> hello
[03:41:17] <jayrulez> Hello SMCollins
[03:41:41] <SMCollins> jayrulez: hey
[03:42:07] <SMCollins> I saw the post about Micheal Lotz, that was sad to see
[03:48:37] <CIA-37> looncraz-github.compositing: looncraz-github * 4dfc535ea074e07a920b504c33f2415509e801b3 :
[03:48:37] <CIA-37> CompositeOverlay server-side comms
[03:48:37] <CIA-37> And supporting features in CompositeEngine & CompositeScreenStates. Not certain blocking updates by region will be the way to go without disabling updates for any window which
[03:48:37] <CIA-37> intersects with the blocked region. Blocking is generallly very quick, and is to be performed when double-buffering is not in place for CompositeOverlays or WindowBuffers (which
[03:48:38] <CIA-37> will be the initial state).
[03:54:55] <AlienSoldier> SMCollins a new post?
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[03:55:58] <AlienSoldier> i see it.. going to read it
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[04:20:40] <MindChild> Is Haiku binary comatible with apps anymore? or only source compatible?
[04:29:57] <Skipp_OSX> MindChild: it is as binary compatable as it can be with BeOS R5
[04:30:06] <Skipp_OSX> and source compatable too naturally
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[04:33:52] <MindChild> What isn't compatible? Netserver?
[04:33:58] <MindChild> what else/other?
[04:37:06] <Skipp_OSX> MindChild: well, some apps don't work, some do...
[04:37:18] <Skipp_OSX> The important ones do
[04:37:55] <MindChild> I just want to know where the known incompatibilities lie
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[04:48:54] <SMCollins> MindChild: it depends on if the apps ued private non documented APi's or not. The apps that did do not work
[04:49:48] <SMCollins> does anyone know where I can download a copy of the Hirens boot cd ?
[04:54:33] <MindChild> demonoid.me
[05:00:20] <jayrulez> SMCollins: Whre is the post about Michael?
[05:00:24] <jayrulez> where*
[05:06:10] <SMCollins> http://www.haiku-os.org/news/2012-04-22_reallifetm
[05:06:53] <SMCollins> off to bed ttyl
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[05:28:22] <Skipp_OSX> MindChild: well, I know SoundPlay 4.9.x doesn't run due to using some private headers we didn't bother to reproduce.
[05:28:38] <Skipp_OSX> of course PPC doesn't work
[05:28:59] <Skipp_OSX> maybe that isn't an of course PPC binaries are not supported.
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[06:54:18] <AlienSoldier> well... at least he mention he want to contribute agai in the future.  Of course now i have that painfull curiosity to know the "real story" :P
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[07:13:50] <arfonzo> morning all
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[07:32:35] <arfonzo> morning everyone
[07:32:46] <arfonzo> is there a way to mount FTP as part of filesystem?
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[07:43:34] <AlienSoldier> arfonzo there was an app for this in r5, i don't know if haiku have it's own native solution for this
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[07:48:28] <CIA-37> looncraz-github.compositing: looncraz-github * b116ed34dedcb58109c04a168b73fe29c7e5035f :
[07:48:28] <CIA-37> End BCompositeOverlay BBitmap inheritence.
[07:48:28] <CIA-37> Inheriting from BBitmap presented more issues at run-time than expected. Examining the situation, it became clear that having BCompositeOverlay manage a separate BBitmap would be
[07:48:28] <CIA-37> more appropriate. This way BCompositeOverlay can be properly re-initialized if compositing is disabled, then re-enabled (perhaps to free memory due to a bug somewhere, or
[07:48:29] <CIA-37> what-have-ya).
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[08:04:24] <arfonzo> AlienSoldier: thanks for this info. I'll take a look. I know diver has shown me some fuse based sshfs stuff
[08:04:35] <arfonzo> so there may be something in testing for ftp as well, not sure
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[08:43:00] <e64i> hey(:
[08:46:50] <jayrulez> hello
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[08:50:40] <e64i> :)
[08:51:15] <jayrulez> :|
[08:54:28] <arfonzo> morning, guys.
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[09:25:34] <arfonzo> Is it possible to add another user to haiku that can SSH into the system?
[09:26:07] <arfonzo> I know multiuser isn't properly supported at yet, however I do see all the foundations of this capability with username and groups, etc.
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[09:53:03] <diver_> arfonzo: adduser
[09:53:22] <arfonzo> ok, so this will actually work, then?
[09:53:34] <arfonzo> in terms of user.group permissions
[09:53:37] <arfonzo> and home dir
[09:55:41] <diver_> should work
[09:56:06] <diver_> there are shadow/passwd files somewhere in /boot/common
[09:56:11] <arfonzo> excellent, thanks matey. I'll try later today
[09:57:00] <diver_> np
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[11:32:29] <arfonzo> guys, where would the socket send() and recv() functions be found, which librar?
[11:34:21] <diver_> arfonzo: http://haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/NetworkSockets.html
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[11:42:03] <arfonzo> thanks diver_
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[13:10:01] <arfonzo> I've ported something that uses 'make' to compile, is there a way to wrap up this process, so that I can use jam, and it'd add on an icon, .rdef things, etc?
[13:14:51] <diver_> dunno if that's what you need, but you can take a look at https://www.haiku-os.org/documents/dev/the_art_of_jamming_all_parts
[13:18:01] <arfonzo> Cool, I've looked at this article before, but not for the same thing. I'll check it out again, thanks.
[13:18:37] <arfonzo> If, it'll take me more time to setup a jamming system than manually attaching an icon and version info, etc... I'll leave it, but it'd be nice to use this as a chance to learn more about the building system for haiku.
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[13:23:15] <CIA-37> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev44068 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=d0b8e45 :
[13:23:15] <CIA-37> rpi: Fix remaining raspberry_pi firmwares
[13:23:15] <CIA-37> * I missed these on my HTML sweep
[13:23:15] <CIA-37> * Were HTML documents vs real firmware
[13:23:15] <CIA-37> * Sorry for the spam.
[13:23:16] <CIA-37> * Firmware: Apr 18, 2012
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[13:46:23] <diver_> arfonzo: http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/data?id=hrev30771
[13:48:01] <arfonzo> cool thanks matey. So it looks possible, I just need to work out how.
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[14:12:57] <yongcong2> how can I rename yongcong2 to yongcong in irc?
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[14:13:46] <yongcong> it works
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[14:21:10] <arfonzo> diver_: the art of jamming article, it says something like "it would be better if your src already uses makefile-engine", but doesn't mention why or what to do if it's just a normal makefile, any ideas?
[14:21:30] <arfonzo> it seems to presume that it's in makefile-engine form, but I'm not sure about this
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[14:25:37] <arfonzo> hi pulkomandy... do you know anything about the jamming process and makefiles?
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[15:12:17] <kurain> hello all
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[16:26:27] <spaso> does anybody know what's happening with http://qt-haiku.ru/  ?
[16:26:38] <spaso> it's down so I can't download anything
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[17:01:04] <arfonzo> spaso: what are you looking to download?
[17:01:54] <spaso> I want to download entire qt source from qt-haiku.ru and compile it
[17:02:12] <arfonzo> ah, ok. Can't help you there, sorry. :( It has been down for a while now.
[17:04:26] <diver_> spaso: http://pastebin.com/xs259HHN
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[17:06:19] <spaso> diver_n: thx, will try this one
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[19:15:47] <CIA-37> haiku.master: tqh * hrev44069 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=e5b4a16 : Since we are patching strncpy.c change it over to strncpy.cpp. [2 commits]
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[21:13:49] <minox> ...
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[22:12:38] <MYOB> anyone seen scottmc recently?
[22:12:45] <MYOB> having problems getting a haikuports website account to work
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[22:18:02] <helf> hey Cian
[22:18:30] <Cian> hey helf
[22:18:38] <Cian> not on here on a RiscPC by any chance? ;)
[22:19:07] <helf> nope :p I havent had a rpc in a long time
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[22:23:31] <Cian> trying to get about ten updated/new haikuports in to the repo but I haven't been able to contact Scott for about a week
[22:24:53] <helf> I havent seen him
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[22:24:57] <helf> but I havent been idling in here regularly
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[22:42:45] <mmu_man> Cian: commits still work here on haikuports
[22:42:57] <mmu_man> though they don't seem to be followed by trac
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[22:53:28] <Cian> mmu_man I don't have svn write access
[22:53:35] <Cian> mmu_man or even trac write access to create tickets
[22:54:13] <minox> hey mmu_man
[22:54:22] <minox> question
[22:54:31] <minox> I think you might be the person whho can asnwer
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[23:14:22] <bvarner> clear
[23:14:25] <bvarner> gah
[23:14:30] <bvarner> wrong window. Sorry guys
[23:14:49] <saivert> forgot the /
[23:14:56] <dreamed> not good enough! I demand ritual suicide as punishment.
[23:14:57] <mmu_man> plop
[23:14:57] <dreamed> j/k
[23:14:59] <saivert> then it might work in select irc clients
[23:15:03] <mmu_man> mmadia: don't ask to ask
[23:15:16] * mmadia raises an eyebrow
[23:15:20] * bvarner executes himself with the Sword Of Destiny
[23:15:22] <mmadia> hi bvarner!
[23:15:31] <dreamed> what have I done?!
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[23:15:43] <jayrulez> escalibur :|
[23:15:45] <bvarner> howdy mmadia
[23:15:54] <mmadia> how's life been?
[23:15:57] <bvarner> BUSY
[23:16:25] <bvarner> I suppose three kids in that many years will do that
[23:16:25] <helf> hi
[23:16:31] <bvarner> helf!
[23:16:43] <helf> you have 3 kids now?!
[23:16:48] <bvarner> holy crap! Yeah. I have three.
[23:16:50] <mmadia> good :)   got any interest in helping out with the hamishm's gsoc openjdk project?  (e.g., as part of the mentor pool or co-mentor with andrew)
[23:16:56] <helf> lol
[23:16:59] <helf> definitely been busy
[23:17:17] <bvarner> helf - if you uh, know what I mean.
[23:17:21] <helf> :p
[23:17:28] <bvarner> mmadia, I could co-mentor with andrew.
[23:17:28] <helf> everyone i know is getting married or having kids
[23:17:32] <helf> and i dont even have a steady GF.
[23:17:35] <helf> its fantastic
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[23:17:44] <bvarner> I can probably handle doing some of that now (at work, even!)
[23:17:57] <bvarner> helf - that was the position I was in.
[23:18:06] <dreamed> apparently shame is easier to deal with than reading change plans
[23:18:39] <bvarner> Met Kylene, 3 months later got engaged, about two years later had our first.
[23:18:47] <bvarner> (got married in there somewhere)
[23:18:57] <helf> awesome
[23:19:02] <helf> glad thats working out for you:)
[23:19:11] <dreamed> :)
[23:19:23] <bvarner> I'm just saying that it can happy way faster than you think.
[23:19:23] <helf> my sister just got remarried
[23:19:34] <helf> and... they already have one on the way
[23:19:38] <bvarner> yeah but you're from alabama, isn't that like required down there? :-p
[23:19:42] <helf> as far as they can tell, it happened ON their honeymoon
[23:19:46] <bvarner> j/k
[23:19:48] <helf> LOL
[23:20:01] <helf> last time i talked to you i think you had just met kylene
[23:20:17] <helf> or had just got engaged
[23:20:22] <helf> thats been awhile :o
[23:21:01] <helf> bvarner,im not at the library anymore!
[23:21:54] <bvarner> About 5 years...
[23:22:09] <bvarner> wow yeah.
[23:22:30] <bvarner> I was hanging around in #hibernate-dev the last few days and figured I'd lurk here for the afternoon.
[23:24:06] <helf> :)
[23:25:37] <bvarner> Yeah, that would have been around the time we went out to CA and met up with Andrew & a few others.
[23:26:25] <helf> time flies
[23:26:38] <helf> It definitely speeds up as you age. I don't like that bit
[23:28:49] <dreamed> agreed
[23:29:03] <helf> I turn 25 this year
[23:29:11] <helf> I think I met half the people here when I was ~12
[23:29:47] <dreamed> gosh
[23:29:57] <dreamed> there's only one channel I'm still in where I've known people for that long
[23:29:58] * dreamed thinks
[23:30:00] <dreamed> ~97
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[23:30:46] <helf> well, i havent been in this channel for that long. it hasnt existed that long :p but everyone moved from beshare
[23:30:56] <dreamed> right
[23:31:43] <dreamed> right
[23:31:48] <dreamed> time to go get the silvia's exhaust looked at
[23:31:49] <dreamed> bbl
[23:31:58] <helf> oooo, what model?
[23:32:02] <dreamed> S15 Spec R
[23:32:10] <helf> cool
[23:32:14] <dreamed> which so far, is nowhere near as fun as my S15 Spec S was
[23:32:19] <helf> heh
[23:32:25] <helf> I downgraded in the name of fuel economy
[23:32:28] <dreamed> but it's only got 21000kms on the clock after six months of me owning it
[23:32:31] <helf> 1984 turbo diesel jetta :p
[23:32:33] <dreamed> fuel economy with the turbo is better
[23:32:39] <dreamed> the spec s had an iron block too
[23:32:42] <dreamed> anyway, later ;)
[23:32:45] <helf> cya
[23:32:51] * helf misses his vehicross
[23:33:14] <helf> ugly, expensive to fix, and fun as hell :p
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[23:37:29] <bvarner> helf - I turned 30 this year. I recall more than a decade ago sitting in my dorm room and you were on beshare.
[23:37:45] <bvarner> then I moved to MS and you had your NeXT machine
[23:40:08] * helf tears up
[23:40:10] <helf> I miss my NeXT
[23:40:35] <helf> yeah, i remember you moving to MS
[23:40:39] <helf> are you still there?
[23:40:48] <bvarner> oh heck no
[23:40:51] <helf> lol
[23:41:00] <bvarner> I moved to Indianapolis about 6 years ago.
[23:41:04] <helf> oh
[23:41:46] <helf> I'm starting college, finally, this year.
[23:41:48] <bvarner> That move took about 3 months to complete (all my stuff was still in MS when Katrina blew through - I moved four weeks before then).
[23:41:49] <helf> this fall semester
[23:42:12] <helf> It only took me 7 years to get off my ass
[23:42:15] <bvarner> LOL
[23:42:33] <bvarner> where are you going?
[23:42:44] <helf> local one then ill transfer somewhere
[23:42:49] <bvarner> smart move
[23:43:13] <helf> figure id get my cores out of the way and get into the groove of it instead of immediately going to a big one
[23:43:43] <helf> and feeling like a country hick gone to town
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[23:45:25] <bvarner> Welp I'm outta here.
[23:45:40] <helf> cya :)
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[23:59:17] <Skipp_OSX> hey, just noticed this program: http://www.makehuman.org
[23:59:49] <Skipp_OSX> It is a FOSS 3D modelling software written in Python utilizing SDL

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