April 22, 2012 
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April 22, 2012 [00:01:48] *** bryan_w has quit IRC[00:05:27] *** MindChild has joined #haiku[00:07:46] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega|away[00:09:30] *** Huggy has quit IRC[00:11:54] *** dr_evil_ is now known as dos4[00:12:01] *** dos4 is now known as dr_evil[00:13:12] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[00:15:06] *** synchris has quit IRC[00:20:50] *** zhangkaizhao has quit IRC[00:23:44] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[00:25:50] *** GridCube has joined #haiku[00:29:00] <GridCube> evening, im trying haiku on a virtual machine, i wonder how to change the screen resolution[00:29:45] <jayrulez> What is your screen resolution?[00:30:06] <GridCube> my netbook has 1024x600[00:30:07] <jayrulez> good evening :)[00:30:12] <GridCube> :D[00:30:24] <jayrulez> are you using virtualbox?[00:30:28] <Skipp__OSX> GridCube: Leaf Menu -> Preferences -> Sceen[00:30:29] <GridCube> yes[00:30:38] <Skipp__OSX> Screen I mean[00:30:58] <GridCube> oooo, theres a menu on the leaf! o:[00:31:21] <Premislaus> lol xD[00:32:00] <jayrulez> lol good one :)[00:32:10] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[00:32:14] <jayrulez> I don't think 1024x600 is in the list[00:32:53] <Skipp__OSX> it depends on the list of resolutions video card provides + standard VESA resolutions[00:32:53] <GridCube> no[00:33:13] <GridCube> but i can do with 800x600 :) i can see the whole screen[00:33:38] <jayrulez> there is a way to get your native resolution[00:34:16] <Skipp__OSX> if you are using the Vesa driver, which I imagine is so, you probably won't get that resolution[00:34:53] <jayrulez> VBoxManage setextradata "VM name" "CustomVideoMode1" "1024x600x32"[00:34:57] <Skipp__OSX> since you are using VBox, you almost definitely are using Vesa, although maybe if you were on real hardware you'l get it.[00:35:06] <Skipp__OSX> ahhh, that is a good solution too[00:35:51] <arfonzo> yeah, I use the setextradata also here. Works fine with Haiku[00:35:51] <Skipp__OSX> if you can tell the VBox video driver to provide that resolution is should show up in Screen.[00:36:17] <Skipp__OSX> I would imagine that should work, yes[00:36:50] *** mmu has quit IRC[00:40:17] <jayrulez> Skipp_OSX do you know how package manager is coming on?[00:43:14] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[00:45:36] <Skipp__OSX> jayrulez: I wish I did[00:47:58] <arfonzo> hey guys, with paladin, how do i get git to show up as an option for source control?[00:49:17] <Skipp__OSX> Ingo's package-management branch on Github hasn't been updated in over a year, but that is probably because when we switched to git he now can use his own repository, which may or may not be available publicly.[00:49:56] <Skipp__OSX> arfonzo: I think you just have to install git with installoptionalpackage -a git[00:50:02] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[00:50:36] <arfonzo> Skipp__OSX: I already have git installed[00:51:02] <Skipp__OSX> arfonzo: idk then, I thought Paladin should pick up on that and provide it as an option[00:51:44] <arfonzo> ok, let me try to uninstall this and install the paladin from optional packages then[00:51:53] <Skipp__OSX> jayrulez: you could try watching the video on the subject from last BeGeistert in October 2011, although the audio is so poor I couldn't understand any of it.[00:52:10] <Skipp__OSX> jayrulez: the slides might help though to figure out what is planned, what is done, what remains to be done.[00:52:28] <Skipp__OSX> arfonzo: that could be, perhaps you need an updated Paladin[00:55:10] <arfonzo> hm, just tried from installoptionalupdate, still the git option shows as unavailable[00:59:01] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[00:59:42] <mmadia> `which git`[00:59:53] <mmadia> ... even on the nightly images, git is installed by default.[00:59:58] <jayrulez> Skipp_OSX: I tried watching it a few nights ago. Couldn't make heads or tail of the audio een using earphones[01:00:36] <Skipp__OSX> donate some external Mic's :)[01:00:45] <jayrulez> Can you give me a link to the slides please[01:00:57] <Skipp__OSX> jayrulez: no, but if you find one, let me know[01:00:58] <jayrulez> lol maybe in a year or so[01:01:31] <jayrulez> You mentioned the slides so... I am not aware of the slides you were referring to[01:02:10] <mmadia> https://github.com/weinhold/Haiku/tree/package-management[01:03:13] <arfonzo> mmadia: yeah, I've got git 1.7.7.2[01:04:14] <jayrulez> found this https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/zooey/2011-01-08_package_management_first_draft[01:04:49] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[01:11:51] <GridCube> jayrulez, :P[01:11:56] <GridCube> that didnt work[01:13:36] <GridCube> the vboxmanage setextradata "haiku" "CustomVideoMode1" "1024x600x32"[01:17:47] <arfonzo> did you run this while the VM was running?[01:18:10] <GridCube> oh... right[01:19:15] <GridCube> that wasnt a very good idea[01:19:25] <jayrulez> ha :) u need to restart vm after[01:19:50] <arfonzo> can anyone confirm for me that their paladin lets them use git as source control?[01:25:41] <Skipp__OSX> arfonzo: I've never actually done it, no[01:27:14] <Skipp__OSX> well, party is over for the 8.0GB disk image and Haiku :([01:27:22] <GridCube> mmm no[01:27:29] <GridCube> no 1024x600 :([01:28:48] <jayrulez> GridCube: it is not done automatically, you need to select it from preferences->screen[01:29:17] <GridCube> theres no such option[01:29:19] <Skipp__OSX> maybe Vesa doesn't support the resolution[01:29:33] <GridCube> lemme screenshot it[01:29:36] <Skipp__OSX> GridCube: do you know what video card is in the machine?[01:29:47] <arfonzo> hm, interesting, I'm using 1920x1080 in vesa with this method and vboxvideo is not loaded[01:30:04] <GridCube> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller[01:30:16] <Skipp__OSX> GridCube: that... might work native...[01:30:19] <Skipp__OSX> might[01:30:35] <jayrulez> maybe on hardware, not in vm[01:30:42] <GridCube> how much space i need to do a live install?[01:30:46] <Skipp__OSX> that's what I meant by native.[01:31:06] <Skipp__OSX> GridCube: you know what, you could boot from a live CD/USB image to check[01:31:15] <jayrulez> 700 mb cd should work[01:31:22] <GridCube> mmhm i could :)[01:31:26] <Skipp__OSX> without changing anything[01:31:52] <GridCube> this is a netbook, no cdrom at all[01:32:05] <Skipp__OSX> GridCube: USB stick would work though[01:32:09] <Skipp__OSX> if you got one of those handy[01:32:13] <GridCube> yep[01:32:13] <GridCube> i do[01:32:22] <GridCube> thats how i install stuff[01:32:28] <Skipp__OSX> :)[01:32:45] <GridCube> welp this vbox aint being nice[01:33:04] <GridCube> it doestn recognize the virtual network card[01:33:16] <Skipp__OSX> GridCube: alpha3 or nightly[01:33:17] <Skipp__OSX> ?[01:33:55] <GridCube> alpha3 if im not mistaked[01:33:59] <Skipp__OSX> If alpha3 you have to switch to e1000 nic[01:34:12] <Skipp__OSX> later nightly support the default card though[01:34:23] <GridCube> oops! it apparently works with that[01:34:25] <GridCube> :D[01:34:43] <GridCube> i was trying different ones to see if one worked[01:35:13] <Skipp__OSX> GridCube: also, you might have more luck with a nightly for the resolution too[01:35:37] <Skipp__OSX> Since support for non-VESA resolutions via EDID has been added since then.[01:35:49] <GridCube> Skipp__OSX, :) thanks i might try[01:35:57] <GridCube> i just found about haiku today[01:36:15] <GridCube> so im trying it out to see how is it :)[01:36:21] <GridCube> im a xubuntu user[01:36:56] <Skipp__OSX> Well Alpha3 is quite old at this point, over a year, and that is a long time for an OS in heavy development.[01:37:56] <GridCube> indeed[01:38:31] <Skipp__OSX> Alpha4 should be coming RSN :)[01:40:15] <GridCube> if i install it would it see my ext partitions?[01:43:44] <mmadia> haiku does support ext. though, i've never personally tested writing to them.[01:49:02] *** synchris has joined #haiku[01:49:02] *** synchris has joined #haiku[01:51:29] *** GridCube has quit IRC[01:57:28] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[02:00:15] *** Barrett has quit IRC[02:10:35] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[02:14:54] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[02:31:59] *** kag_anil has joined #haiku[02:34:11] *** Skipp__OSX has quit IRC[03:07:00] *** synchris has quit IRC[03:08:00] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[03:16:22] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[03:17:36] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[03:21:06] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[03:21:45] *** Cian has joined #haiku[03:30:00] *** dr_evil_ has joined #haiku[03:33:33] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[03:42:39] *** Cian has quit IRC[03:58:45] *** MindChild has quit IRC[03:59:33] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[04:04:42] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:23:01] *** Barrett has quit IRC[04:26:59] *** mmadia has quit IRC[04:46:30] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[04:47:06] *** hamishm has quit IRC[05:19:30] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[05:23:37] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[05:36:09] *** Bryanstein has quit IRC[05:44:12] *** Bryanstein has joined #haiku[05:54:36] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[05:57:59] *** wry has joined #haiku[06:01:34] <mr-rich> How does one move the tracker thingy from the top right corner?[06:03:10] <Xeon3D> you drag it from the leftmost bit of the 2nd row counting from the top[06:03:16] <Xeon3D> it should have 3 dots if memory serves right[06:03:23] <Xeon3D> but then again I'm half-drunk[06:03:33] <mr-rich> Only half?[06:04:03] <Xeon3D> Yeah[06:04:06] <Xeon3D> it's starting to pass[06:04:08] <Xeon3D> did you get it[06:04:09] <Xeon3D> ?[06:04:16] <Xeon3D> luckily I can touch type[06:04:26] <Xeon3D> else I'd be misspelling as f"#$[06:05:52] <mr-rich> no three dots ...[06:07:40] <Xeon3D> you see the clock?[06:07:48] <mr-rich> Yup[06:07:49] <Xeon3D> drag the bit to the left of it[06:08:43] *** wry has quit IRC[06:09:22] <mr-rich> nada ... Maybe because I'm running in a vm?[06:10:24] <mr-rich> I want to drag it to the bottom of the screen like I saw in a video ...[06:11:04] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[06:14:08] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[06:14:40] <Xeon3D> mr-rich, well it's fairly easy to do[06:15:55] <mr-rich> so I'm told ... not happening here ... heard it was a Shift-Click deal ...[06:16:42] <Xeon3D> http://cl.ly/2U2r083s1E1Q2v2E1315[06:16:53] <Xeon3D> see the dotted line next to the clock?[06:18:05] <mr-rich> to the RIGHT of the clock?[06:18:12] <Xeon3D> yes sorry[06:18:19] <Xeon3D> I told you I was half drunk[06:18:28] <Xeon3D> and I also confuse directions when I'm sober[06:18:30] <Xeon3D> :/[06:18:57] <mr-rich> Which half is dunk? :)[06:19:00] <mr-rich> got it ...[06:19:30] <Xeon3D> mr-rich dunno to be honest.[06:20:01] <Xeon3D> yay!!![06:20:14] <Xeon3D> don't tell me you use it à lá win98 style?[07:01:27] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[07:04:56] *** duvjones has quit IRC[07:06:13] *** ec has quit IRC[07:06:49] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[07:20:41] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[07:24:12] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[07:45:22] *** yongcong has quit IRC[07:48:27] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[07:59:20] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[08:07:26] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[08:07:31] *** bryan_w has quit IRC[08:08:54] *** duvjones has quit IRC[08:53:45] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[09:00:01] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[09:01:18] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[09:02:48] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[09:05:45] *** lorglas has quit IRC[09:26:18] *** fhein has joined #haiku[09:34:37] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[09:42:42] *** swarfega|away is now known as swarfega[09:57:42] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[10:09:58] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[10:12:14] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[10:16:10] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[10:19:04] *** synchris has joined #haiku[10:19:04] *** synchris has joined #haiku[10:27:36] *** humdinger has quit IRC[10:39:30] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[11:01:01] *** orbital_fox has joined #haiku[11:13:37] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[11:14:11] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[11:14:28] *** sarcas has joined #haiku[11:15:20] *** PasNox has quit IRC[11:15:21] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[11:15:31] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[11:21:07] *** tqh has joined #haiku[11:22:21] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[11:23:02] <Premislaus> hi[11:34:24] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[11:44:27] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[11:45:48] *** tqh has quit IRC[11:45:56] *** lorglas has quit IRC[11:46:59] *** tqh has joined #haiku[11:47:58] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[11:52:10] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[11:57:33] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[12:06:08] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[12:07:26] *** PasNox has quit IRC[12:07:40] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[12:14:55] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[12:15:43] *** PasNox has quit IRC[12:15:50] *** PasNox_ has quit IRC[12:51:39] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[13:06:35] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[13:08:38] *** yongcong has quit IRC[13:13:10] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[13:15:43] *** martinhpedersen has quit IRC[13:16:14] *** martinhpedersen has joined #haiku[13:16:35] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[13:17:00] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[13:21:54] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[13:22:03] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[13:25:01] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[13:25:53] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[13:27:22] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[13:28:28] *** Senryu-User has joined #haiku[13:29:02] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:41:28] *** sarcas has quit IRC[13:42:23] <Senryu-User> hello[13:42:45] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[13:42:51] <Senryu-User> can anybody help me, I want to enlarge my Haiku partition[13:43:05] <Senryu-User> I'm using 2Gb USB drive[13:45:15] <luroh> Senryu-User: can't be done, you'd need to reinstall[13:51:53] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[13:52:01] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[13:54:18] *** Senryu-User has quit IRC[14:01:01] *** yongcong1 has joined #haiku[14:01:23] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[14:01:36] *** yongcong has quit IRC[14:02:40] *** PasNox has quit IRC[14:03:40] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[14:06:34] *** c-cc has joined #haiku[14:08:25] <c-cc> Hello #haiku. I installed me some Haiku OS on my laptop and I am having some issues building wpasupplicant. It tells me some headers (WPASupplicant.h net_notifications.h ieee802111_ioctl.h) are missing when I try "haikuporter wpa_supplicant". Anyone know what I am doing wrong here? / complete haiku-n00b[14:10:01] *** luko has joined #haiku[14:11:47] <luroh> c-cc: are you sure you want to compile wpa_supplicant and not just 'installoptionalpackage wpa_supplicant'?[14:12:20] <c-cc> luroh: I think I want to do that second thing. I had no idea it was even possible to do that. Thanks a bunch :)[14:13:25] * c-cc will try that on the next reboot.[14:14:02] <c-cc> Also the webbrowser that is preinstalled.. I forget the name. When I start it I get a dialog saying it did something bad and asks if I want to Debug or OK. Is this normal? ;)[14:14:35] <scgtrp> webpositive; also, no, that should not happen[14:14:54] <OmniMancer> c-cc: where did you get haiku to install it?[14:15:06] <c-cc> Oh ya. that is the name of it. I tried debug but my gdb-fu is weak.[14:15:43] <c-cc> OmniMancer: I'm not sure I understand your q :( I downloaded an iso, burnt on a CD and installed it all on my laptop.[14:15:57] <luroh> c-cc: i take it you're using alpha 3, which is about a year old now.[14:16:07] <OmniMancer> where did you download the iso from?[14:16:46] <c-cc> OmniMancer: haiku-os.org/get-haiku . then the anyboot torrent[14:16:59] <c-cc> luroh: r1a3, yes[14:17:07] *** vooshy has quit IRC[14:17:07] <luroh> you might have more luck with a nightly build, http://haiku-files.org/[14:17:26] <c-cc> Thanks :) I'll give it a try.[14:18:38] *** negusnyul_ has joined #haiku[14:18:47] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[14:19:05] <luroh> c-cc: note however that the nightlies don't come with the same software bundled, e.g. you need to 'installoptionalpackage webpositive'[14:19:34] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:20:15] <c-cc> luroh: oh that's fine. See I didn't even know there was an installoptionalpackage . :) As long as I can play WPA I'll be very happy. rebooting in linux now after having seen the speedy haiku boot time is just... a pain.[14:20:22] <OmniMancer> also because they are nightly builds they do occasionally break[14:20:47] * c-cc nods.[14:21:48] <luroh> 'installoptionalpackage -l' should give you a list of available packages, i think[14:22:18] *** yongcong1 has quit IRC[14:22:26] *** luko has quit IRC[14:33:32] *** Malmis has joined #haiku[14:38:10] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[14:40:35] *** c-cc has quit IRC[14:40:59] *** GridCube has joined #haiku[14:41:20] *** GridCube has joined #haiku[14:58:03] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[15:03:39] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[15:04:45] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[15:04:46] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[15:08:38] *** yongcong has quit IRC[15:11:58] *** Barrett has quit IRC[15:12:19] *** PasNox has quit IRC[15:12:49] *** Barrett|Haiku has joined #haiku[15:13:33] *** tqh has quit IRC[15:13:36] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[15:14:18] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[15:16:32] *** Huggy has joined #haiku[15:18:52] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[15:20:51] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[15:24:16] *** yongcong1 has joined #haiku[15:26:14] *** yongcong has quit IRC[15:27:20] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[15:39:26] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[15:40:39] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[15:42:32] *** yongcong1 has quit IRC[15:44:58] *** Cian has joined #haiku[15:47:14] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[15:47:49] *** kolibri has joined #haiku[15:48:00] <kolibri> qt haiku site is down[15:48:03] <kolibri> damn[15:51:21] <vooshy> kolibri: google cache for time being http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QotBXs52Rg8J:qt-haiku.ru/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&[15:55:20] *** GridCube has quit IRC[15:58:28] *** yongcong has quit IRC[15:58:42] *** vooshy has quit IRC[16:00:53] <arfonzo> hi all, apart from Darkwyrm's two intros to programming with Haiku, are there any others out there? Particularly anything like a gentle intro to the Be API would be most useful :)[16:06:53] *** kcj has quit IRC[16:08:15] *** Barrett|Haiku has quit IRC[16:12:04] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[16:12:14] *** Cian has quit IRC[16:13:52] *** cryptovariable has joined #haiku[16:15:34] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[16:22:03] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[16:24:36] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[16:25:47] *** tqh has joined #haiku[16:37:44] *** sarcas has joined #haiku[16:39:37] *** sarcas has quit IRC[16:41:19] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[16:41:25] *** sarcas has joined #haiku[16:46:33] <arfonzo> how do you edit a "time" attribute? I'm trying 24/04/2012, for example and it's going to 1jan1970[16:47:49] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[16:48:07] *** Luko has joined #haiku[16:48:10] <arfonzo> i've used mkindex -t string on this time attr[16:49:16] *** Luko has quit IRC[16:55:24] *** tqh has quit IRC[16:59:19] <arfonzo> ok, I've figured out the date attribute, and I've created a new folder with attribute layout in DefaultQueryTemplates, however Find doesn't seem to show the new MIME type, do I need to reindex or something to get Find to show this?[16:59:31] <arfonzo> I'm following the instructions in https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/workshop-filetypes+attributes.html[17:02:11] <arfonzo> hm, it shows on restarting haiku.[17:10:53] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[17:11:31] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[17:13:06] *** cryptovariable has quit IRC[17:15:29] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[17:17:04] *** Cian has joined #haiku[17:19:19] *** kolibri has quit IRC[17:26:18] *** Luko has joined #haiku[17:43:10] *** dcase has quit IRC[17:48:11] *** Barrett has quit IRC[17:56:21] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:01:25] *** Cian has quit IRC[18:02:10] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[18:04:18] *** Cian has joined #haiku[18:10:50] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[18:37:42] *** sarcas has quit IRC[18:41:48] *** markos_ has quit IRC[18:54:03] *** Cian has quit IRC[18:57:23] *** Cian has joined #haiku[19:04:53] *** synchris has quit IRC[19:09:10] *** Cian has quit IRC[19:14:11] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[19:23:44] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[19:26:46] *** PasNox has quit IRC[19:28:28] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[19:30:40] *** juaa_ has joined #haiku[19:30:45] *** jua_ has quit IRC[19:35:42] *** mitknil has joined #haiku[19:35:42] *** mitknil has joined #haiku[19:39:49] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[19:42:50] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[19:44:06] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[19:45:52] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[19:45:54] <Premislaus> hi[19:46:08] <humdinger> hu[19:47:14] *** jimage has quit IRC[19:49:04] *** tqh has joined #haiku[19:50:16] <Premislaus> I reported some bugs...[19:51:20] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[20:00:11] *** jimage has joined #haiku[20:00:50] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[20:02:09] <Luko> hi[20:03:53] <Premislaus> hello[20:04:31] <arfonzo> hey guys[20:04:36] <Luko> Premislaus: pls, can you test a qt-haiku.ru i have problem to load this page[20:04:36] <luroh> Premislaus: i noticed your report and was wondering what the following means: "during installation on Windows, I chose K551"?[20:04:47] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[20:05:07] <arfonzo> Luko: I'm getting error 500.[20:05:09] <Premislaus> page does not load[20:05:42] <Premislaus> luroh because in the driver name is longer[20:05:59] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[20:06:41] <luroh> is K551 the name of your graphics chip or something?[20:07:32] <Premislaus> SIE-MCM17P1="MCM17P1 (-K551-)"[20:07:39] <Premislaus> monitor crt[20:07:59] <luroh> ah[20:09:23] <luroh> well, you should attach a syslog to that bug[20:11:20] <Premislaus> i attached video file[20:12:18] <Premislaus> I can not upload syslog - dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8484[20:12:36] <Premislaus> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8484[20:13:24] <luroh> hm, how about booting a linux live cd to copy the syslog?[20:13:29] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[20:14:02] <luroh> linux comes with a read-only BFS driver[20:14:24] <Premislaus> bbl[20:15:13] <Premislaus> luroh i have syslogs in other tickets[20:15:16] *** humdinger has quit IRC[20:15:23] *** dcase has joined #haiku[20:15:35] <luroh> good, perhaps you can just link to them then[20:15:50] <luroh> the syslog will contain useful information such as the mode list[20:16:12] <luroh> (if EDID works properly, that is)[20:16:24] *** Luko has quit IRC[20:17:45] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[20:22:09] *** Hubert__ has joined #haiku[20:23:58] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[20:24:05] *** Hubert__ is now known as Hubert_[20:26:40] *** Barrett has quit IRC[20:27:21] *** wry has joined #haiku[20:30:41] *** farhaven_ has joined #haiku[20:31:04] *** farhaven has quit IRC[20:31:58] *** farhaven_ is now known as farhaven[20:33:11] *** tr-808_ has joined #haiku[20:33:14] *** nighty has joined #haiku[20:37:53] *** diver_ has quit IRC[20:37:53] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[20:37:53] *** nighty_ has quit IRC[20:46:49] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[20:54:48] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[20:57:23] *** diver_ has joined #haiku[21:18:36] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[21:24:35] <Premislaus> re[21:27:58] *** Shact has joined #haiku[21:30:19] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:30:29] *** dcase has quit IRC[21:33:11] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[21:33:33] *** wry has quit IRC[21:33:39] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:40:31] <Premislaus> luroh http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8487#comment:1[21:40:34] *** synchris has joined #haiku[21:40:34] *** synchris has joined #haiku[21:41:02] *** mitknil has quit IRC[21:45:53] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[21:46:34] <diver_> Premislaus: this syslog is pretty old now[21:48:27] <Premislaus> diver_ but the problem always occurred[21:49:23] <diver_> I understand. If it possible please attach a new one[21:49:29] <Premislaus> ok[21:50:58] <diver_> Premislaus: re https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8296 can you try to use static ip?[21:52:15] <diver_> It looks like there is a problem with dhcp client[21:52:45] *** Shact has quit IRC[21:53:25] <Premislaus> diver_ Maybe my monitor does not has edid? Year of production is 1994/95?[21:53:35] <Premislaus> diver I must to use static ip[21:54:15] <diver_> very possible[21:54:25] <diver_> you can initialize your usb with bfs and copy syslog to it[21:54:44] <diver_> just to avoid using ntfs driver[21:55:41] <Premislaus> diver_ When I restart my computer DNS was set corectly[21:55:52] <Premislaus> I do not know why[21:57:16] <diver_> because there is a bug somewhere in net_server/Network preflet[21:57:59] <Premislaus> 1. You run the Haiku.[21:58:01] <Premislaus> 2. Set the internet preferences.[21:58:02] <Premislaus> 3. DNS is wrong, Haiku enforces 0.0.0.0.[21:58:04] <Premislaus> 4. When I restart Haiku, DNS is 10.10.0.1 :)[21:58:27] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[21:58:31] <Premislaus> just do not know, if this is a random[21:58:52] <diver_> does it mean that this ticket can be closed now?[21:59:33] <Premislaus> not, the internet does not work for me on Haiku, can not see my network, and the driver has bugs[21:59:38] <Premislaus> *netowrks[21:59:43] <Premislaus> **networks[22:00:21] <Premislaus> *no, the internet[22:00:26] <Premislaus> sory for mistakes[22:00:30] <Premislaus> *sorry[22:01:10] <diver_> but it sees some networks now, right?[22:02:12] <Premislaus> so, once saw one without a name, now he sees another two... and I do not switch off ACPI, the Haiku hangs by a driver, after boot[22:02:28] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[22:02:43] <diver_> btw, you can safely ignore "not implemented" string in Devices. It is still a pretty basic app[22:03:03] <diver_> by which driver?[22:03:33] <Premislaus> I wrote it in two tickets[22:03:44] <diver_> ok[22:04:04] <Premislaus> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8295 and http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8296[22:04:28] <Premislaus> ralwifi / ralinkwifi[22:05:03] <diver_> so it now sees less networks then there are available?[22:05:24] <Premislaus> yes http://dev.haiku-os.org/attachment/ticket/8296/my%20networks%20on%20Windows.PNG[22:06:00] <Premislaus> only one without name, AP East and Panel 2[22:06:13] <diver_> BTW, there are two unnamed networks in that screenshot[22:06:32] <Premislaus> uhum[22:07:12] <Premislaus> My have in names Perfect[22:07:44] <diver_> but if you delete ralinkwifi driver haw can you see any of them? Or I'm missing something?[22:07:51] <Premislaus> Is the name of the company, with which I have internet[22:08:02] <Premislaus> no, i dont see[22:08:18] <Premislaus> one minute[22:09:01] <diver_> Huh? You've said that you can see 3 networks now, haven't you?[22:09:11] <Premislaus> Currently I have no pendrive, I lent to someone. You told me to rip.[22:09:51] <diver_> ok[22:10:11] <Premislaus> When I run Haiku with ACPI off, I see three networks[22:10:30] <Premislaus> I once saw only one[22:11:18] <Premislaus> When I remove the driver, I run Haiku with ACPI, but I do not see any networks[22:11:34] <Premislaus> driver + acpi = hangs, freezes[22:12:45] <diver_> I see[22:14:57] <diver_> can you enter KDL when it freezes?[22:15:30] <diver_> using Alt-SysRq-d[22:15:50] *** Luko has joined #haiku[22:15:58] <diver_> also how did you get that syslog if Haiku freezes?[22:16:49] <diver_> if you can enter KDL (driver + acpi) type "ints" and take a picture[22:18:20] <Premislaus> I do not remember. I guess I chose not to save the new syslog.[22:19:05] <diver_> where?[22:19:32] <Premislaus> When then runningHaiku with disabled ACPI[22:20:06] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[22:20:35] <Premislaus> When Haiku boot, press SHIFT[22:20:57] <Premislaus> I chose some options there.[22:21:21] <Premislaus> The problem is that there is no KDL, the computer freezes[22:21:26] <Premislaus> hard reset[22:22:17] <diver_> yes, when it freezes try to press Alt-SysRq-d and wait a couple of minutes.[22:23:08] <Premislaus> ok[22:23:51] <diver_> If possible use ps2 keyboard[22:24:33] <Premislaus> Where is this key?[22:24:42] <Premislaus> i have ps2 keyboard ;)[22:24:56] <Premislaus> mouse on usb[22:25:20] <Premislaus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KeyboardWithPrintScreenRinged.svg only print screen[22:25:23] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[22:25:38] <luroh> Premislaus: that's the one[22:31:20] <Premislaus> one minute[22:35:45] <Luko> heh. i know how to acess to my linux fileserver[22:35:57] <Luko> in bezillabrowser i write ftp adress[22:36:06] <Luko> and i can browse and after download file to haiku box[22:36:23] <Luko> its faster than ftp command line[22:38:40] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:40:16] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[22:41:29] *** duvjones has quit IRC[22:42:00] *** tqh has joined #haiku[22:42:53] <CIA-37> haiku.master: tqh * hrev44064 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=45cf329 :[22:42:53] <CIA-37> x86: add cpuid feature 6 flags[22:42:53] <CIA-37> Signed-off-by: Fredrik Holmqvist <fredrik.holmqvist at gmail dot com>[22:43:57] *** synchris has quit IRC[22:45:31] <Premislaus> diver_ ok, I'm going to try[22:45:40] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[22:46:33] *** adamk_` has joined #haiku[22:49:04] *** plankton1zer has joined #haiku[22:49:26] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:49:38] *** geist__ has joined #haiku[22:49:42] *** nighty_ has joined #haiku[22:49:51] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[22:49:52] *** arfonzo_ has joined #haiku[22:49:55] *** adamk_` is now known as adamk_[22:50:03] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[22:50:03] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[22:50:29] *** synchris has joined #haiku[22:50:29] *** synchris has joined #haiku[22:52:06] *** orbital_fox has quit IRC[22:54:41] *** nighty has quit IRC[22:54:41] *** redblue has quit IRC[22:54:41] *** arfonzo has quit IRC[22:54:41] *** geist has quit IRC[22:54:41] *** planktonizer has quit IRC[23:06:36] *** kcj has joined #haiku[23:13:44] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[23:14:54] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[23:15:02] <Premislaus> diver_ 5 minutes :)[23:15:41] *** negusnyul_ has quit IRC[23:16:02] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[23:18:33] <mmu_man> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URI_scheme#beshare: :)[23:18:45] <mmu_man> not sure it'll stick around[23:19:10] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[23:19:27] <Premislaus> diver_ https://dev.haiku-os.org/attachment/ticket/8295/after%20freezes%2C%20alt%20%2B%20sysrq%20%2B%20d%2C%20ints.jpg and https://dev.haiku-os.org/attachment/ticket/8295/after%20freezes%2C%20alt%20%2B%20sysrq%20%2B%20d%2C%20backtrace.jpg[23:21:17] *** Luko has quit IRC[23:26:05] <Premislaus> diver_: Are you still? 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