April 21, 2012 
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April 21, 2012 [00:07:41] <Premislaus> http://twojepc.pl/news26628.html maja rację, znam historie tej korporacji,a le od dawna wydaje mi sie skostniala[00:08:11] <Premislaus> sorry wrong window[00:10:23] *** diver_ has quit IRC[00:17:38] *** Spelln has joined #haiku[00:19:19] *** jimage has quit IRC[00:27:18] *** Spelln has quit IRC[00:29:43] *** SanketP has left #haiku[00:33:55] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has quit IRC[00:35:15] <Premislaus> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_catalyst_legacy2&num=1 - AMD To Drop Radeon HD 2000/3000/4000 Catalyst Support[00:36:32] <Premislaus> it is not surprising, it's old architecture. vliw 5 - vliw 4 - gcn[00:38:47] *** PasNox has quit IRC[00:40:02] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[00:43:33] *** SMCollins1 has joined #haiku[00:46:47] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[00:46:58] *** SMCollins1 has quit IRC[00:47:31] *** jimage has joined #haiku[00:49:17] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[00:52:41] *** SMCollins1 has joined #haiku[01:02:22] *** sl__ has quit IRC[01:02:44] *** sl__ has joined #haiku[01:05:54] *** adamk has quit IRC[01:05:54] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[01:11:14] *** adamk has joined #haiku[01:11:14] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[01:11:34] <mmu_man> oh we should have a port of this http://linux.die.net/man/1/convmv[01:14:34] *** LjL has quit IRC[01:26:04] *** SMCollins1 has quit IRC[01:28:52] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[01:30:06] *** LjL has joined #haiku[01:31:02] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[01:32:41] *** SMCollins1 has joined #haiku[01:32:59] <SMCollins1> hello[01:34:11] <jayrulez> hello SMCollins1[01:35:23] <SMCollins1> kallisti5 is the man[01:35:26] <SMCollins1> woooot[01:35:51] <jayrulez> what did he do now?[01:36:07] <SMCollins1> he fixed the radeon hd driver[01:36:09] <SMCollins1> woot[01:36:35] <jayrulez> oh. I don't av radeon :|. But great news[01:37:00] <SMCollins1> yeah, looks good 1920x1080[01:37:09] <jayrulez> screenshot :)[01:38:33] <SMCollins1> http://www.filedump.net/dumped/screenshot11334965100.png[01:39:32] <AlienSoldier> my god, that GUI is dated and so 90's :P[01:39:45] <SMCollins1> http://www.filedump.net/dumped/screenshot21334965174.png[01:40:34] <jayrulez> looks great[01:40:37] <SMCollins1> the dock looks good though[01:40:54] <jayrulez> never seen that dock before[01:40:59] <jayrulez> where is it from?[01:41:55] <jayrulez> hidock i see[01:42:12] <jayrulez> is radeon the only supported card?[01:43:09] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[01:43:33] * AlienSoldier still await for a solution to this before using haiku http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8007[01:47:00] <jayrulez> I will install haiku on hardware when the OS can update itself or when I get a spare machine[01:52:54] *** Huggy has quit IRC[01:53:32] <Skipp_OSX> I wish he would use Haiku HVIF icons in that Dock thing, Mac icons look out of place on Haiku, why would you want them anyway?[01:53:52] <Skipp_OSX> other than that, looks good[01:53:56] <Skipp_OSX> I'll bbiab[01:54:03] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[01:54:14] <AlienSoldier> for a second i was expecting a new game :( http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/chris-huelsbeck/turrican-soundtrack-anthology-by-chris-huelsbeck[01:59:08] <jayrulez> Skipp_OSX have you guys ever tried a kickstarter for haiku?[02:00:14] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[02:01:28] <SMCollins1> AlienSoldier: the priority inversion isn't that big of a issue most of the time[02:01:52] <AlienSoldier> for me it's just unusable[02:01:59] <SMCollins1> that bad ?[02:02:02] <AlienSoldier> yep[02:02:09] <SMCollins1> wow, what kind of hardware ?[02:02:15] <AlienSoldier> no was to use sound while working on other things[02:02:19] <AlienSoldier> *way[02:02:28] * dreamed looks at the dock screenshot[02:02:41] * dreamed wonders why you'd use a dock if you can orient deskbar like that[02:02:49] <AlienSoldier> and sound notification can go unnoticed[02:02:52] <dreamed> well.. need sto be able to pin/ luanch as well[02:02:57] <SMCollins1> Skipp doesn't like the Icon, I think the haiku icons need some work looking at these icons[02:03:13] <dreamed> I love the haiku icons[02:03:26] <AlienSoldier> time haiku icon are timeless[02:03:36] <AlienSoldier> *the[02:03:40] <SMCollins1> the defualt haiku icons are a bit plain, and sort of look unfinished compared to others, some of it is the details[02:03:42] <dreamed> they suit the chrome anyway[02:03:57] <dreamed> the haiku window decor by default has the same sort of feel[02:03:57] <dreamed> smooth gradients, sharp lines[02:04:05] <SMCollins1> likes the icon showing zipped files, looks great[02:04:26] <SMCollins1> but the disk drive icon, it could use a bit of love[02:04:36] <AlienSoldier> they are my favorite icon ever with magic workbench close second[02:05:14] <SMCollins1> magic workbench ?[02:06:00] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:06:34] <SMCollins1> dreamed: I was just trying out the dock[02:07:35] <jayrulez> it looks out of place on haiku[02:08:08] <SMCollins1> it does look a bit alien due to the icons imho[02:08:37] <jayrulez> also the background[02:08:54] <AlienSoldier> SMCollins1 http://pages.infinit.net/kosh/os/amiga-mw.gif[02:08:58] <SMCollins1> could be brought more to the haiku system colors[02:09:36] <SMCollins1> AlienSoldier: I'll be real honest here, I don't miss the appreance of those late 80's early 90's icons[02:10:02] <dreamed> SMCollins1: I agree[02:10:18] <SMCollins1> they were hard to look at for hours on end[02:10:41] <dreamed> I miss Tiger's dock[02:10:47] <dreamed> the plain translucent rectangle[02:10:48] <dreamed> it was nice[02:10:52] <SMCollins1> ???[02:10:54] <AlienSoldier> i sure don't miss the marble background fad, but those icon desing was really good[02:11:52] <dreamed> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fe/TigerDesk.png that dock[02:13:05] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[02:13:11] <jayrulez> that one looks good[02:13:40] *** synchris has quit IRC[02:25:41] <CIA-37> HaikuPorts: mmu_man * r1869 /haikuports/trunk/app-text/convmv/ (. convmv-1.15.bep patches/ patches/convmv-1.15.patch) http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1869 :[02:25:41] <CIA-37> Add a .bep and patch for convmv.[02:25:41] <CIA-37> A perl utility to rename files and folders while fixing the encoding.[02:31:06] <SMCollins1> mp4 playback is still broken ?[02:36:47] *** Barrettt__ has joined #haiku[02:40:25] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[02:51:33] <Xeon3D> EWWWW Amiga OS :X[02:53:26] <Skipp_OSX> cool checkered ball though[02:54:19] <SMCollins1> yes the old checkered ball.[02:54:32] <SMCollins1> Hi Skipp[02:55:06] <SMCollins1> brings back memories of liesure suit larry[03:00:12] <Xeon3D> http://amikit.amiga.sk/image/screenshot/amikit_8.jpg <- I don't like it even it if looks like this.[03:01:25] <Xeon3D> there is another similar project but I can't remember the name :X[03:01:38] *** mmu has joined #haiku[03:02:17] <SMCollins1> why does that look like a amiga skin on windows xp ?[03:05:22] <Xeon3D> It's not[03:05:29] <Xeon3D> It's a XP skin for AmigaOS :)[03:05:49] <Xeon3D> There's also this SMCollins1 : http://www.amigasys.com/[03:07:34] <SMCollins1> I never really got all that into the Amiga I was stuck usings Macs at school or Win2/3 on the computer lab machines.[03:07:40] <rennj> amikit and amigainabox aiab[03:09:15] <Xeon3D> there's Classic Workbench too[03:09:19] <Xeon3D> http://classicwb.abime.net/[03:11:40] <rennj> http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2q3zonc&s=3 olpc e-uae/amiga os3.9[03:11:50] <rennj> me running amiga os3.9 on my olpc xo-1[03:11:59] <rennj> 400mhz 256MB of ram..oh the power[03:12:46] <Xeon3D> lol[03:12:55] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[03:13:01] <rennj> http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=80m5z49&s=1 olpc fvwm2/rox/mplayer/xv/xpdf[03:13:11] <rennj> that was slackware on olpc xo-1[03:13:24] <rennj> it was pretty quick for low resource box[03:13:40] <Skipp_OSX> I don't understand Amiga...[03:13:47] <rennj> its dead jim[03:13:50] <rennj> AROS[03:14:05] <Xeon3D> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAdBGMOT9-8 <- My PC / OS X[03:14:14] * SMCollins1 runs and gets paddle for Amig and screams "we need more voltage"[03:15:15] *** synchris has joined #haiku[03:15:47] <Skipp_OSX> Xeon3D: how dare you pirate Mac OS X[03:15:56] <Xeon3D> Pirate?[03:16:01] <Xeon3D> I paid for it fair and square[03:16:55] <dreamed> lots of people with older macs hackintosh them after they break[03:17:01] <dreamed> particularly G4 Cube owners[03:17:05] <dreamed> they can't bear to part with them[03:17:19] <Skipp_OSX> Xeon3D: you read the EULA?[03:17:20] <Xeon3D> And on top, I used the retail media to install it too :)[03:17:21] <SMCollins1> Its just a old computer, they make better ones nowadays[03:17:23] <Skipp_OSX> pirate[03:17:39] <Xeon3D> It says it has to be installed on an Apple Labeled Computer.[03:18:00] <Xeon3D> I found good use for the Apple stickers that came with it. :)[03:18:06] <SMCollins1> So, put a apple label on the computer[03:18:36] <Xeon3D> Even my windows 7 licenses (all 8 of them) are legal[03:18:49] <Xeon3D> and i just paid $20 for 'em[03:19:47] <Xeon3D> Skipp_OSX if Apple made durable material, I'd still be a real mac user up to this day[03:19:47] <Skipp_OSX> I am just messing with you.[03:20:01] <Skipp_OSX> Xeon3D: Aluminum isn't durable?[03:20:05] <Xeon3D> Since the Intel transition it feels like their hardware is crap[03:20:14] <Xeon3D> I had a mid 2010 mbp[03:20:20] <Xeon3D> lasted 6 months[03:20:26] <Xeon3D> dead logic board[03:20:41] <Xeon3D> got mah money back, bought this pc[03:20:41] <Skipp_OSX> well, that is under warranty still[03:20:47] <Skipp_OSX> ah, okay[03:20:54] <Xeon3D> been running up till this day[03:21:03] <Skipp_OSX> well, that is quite anecdotal[03:21:27] <Skipp_OSX> but fine, makes sense.[03:21:41] <Xeon3D> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uruzmlM2ZS0[03:22:25] <Xeon3D> I liked it so farking much[03:23:13] <Xeon3D> I'll try an Air next time I get my hands on some moneh[03:25:10] <Skipp_OSX> downvote video for no Haiku[03:26:28] <SMCollins1> Linux Trolls, evern RHEL and Ubuntu are trolls http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2168086/canonical-linux-kernel really makes you wonder, wtf is wrong with these people[03:26:58] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[03:30:57] *** dr_evil_ has joined #haiku[03:31:15] *** Barrettt__ has quit IRC[03:34:16] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[03:37:54] <SMCollins1> funniest cat videos ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IytNBm8WA1c&feature=related[03:40:21] <jayrulez> This is madness[03:40:52] * SMCollins1 mwahahahahaha[03:41:15] *** wry has quit IRC[03:42:49] <SMCollins1> jayrulez: This is Sparta ?[03:46:53] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[03:48:23] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[03:49:51] <jayrulez> haha[03:49:59] <jayrulez> wth did I just watch :|[03:52:27] <dreamed> I haven't seen this video in years[04:01:58] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[04:14:59] *** hamishm has quit IRC[04:23:07] *** wry has joined #haiku[04:28:26] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[04:37:10] *** synchris has quit IRC[04:43:31] *** SMCollins1 has quit IRC[04:50:02] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[04:50:15] *** kag_anil has joined #haiku[04:55:03] <CIA-37> HaikuPorts: mmu_man * r1870 /haikuports/trunk/dev-lang/tcl/tcl-8.5.9.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1870 : Make sure tclsh8.5 is also available as 'tclsh', thing like fossil need this.[05:01:18] *** zid has joined #haiku[05:01:52] *** Smartnow has quit IRC[05:02:38] <zid> I managed to install Haiku on a Toshiba Satellite 660 a year ago.[05:02:55] <CIA-37> HaikuPorts: mmu_man * r1871 /haikuports/trunk/dev-vcs/fossil/ (. fossil-1.22.bep) http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1871 :[05:02:56] <CIA-37> Add a .bep for the fossil SCM, used by Tcl.Tk.[05:02:56] <CIA-37> Most tests work: 8 errors out of 11151 tests.[05:02:59] <zid> Any major changes / improvements since then? (it was just a test back then)[05:03:21] <zid> since a year back I mean[05:05:44] <mmu> fixes I guess[05:05:59] *** mmu has quit IRC[05:06:34] <Skipp_OSX> wifi maybe[05:09:19] <zid> so wifi is working now? Thats cool. Good news.[05:10:04] *** papasmurf has joined #haiku[05:10:47] <wry> Depends on your definition of working.[05:12:18] <zid> :)[05:33:19] <Skipp_OSX> well, depends on your card and if we have the driver and firmware.[05:39:11] *** Smartnow has joined #haiku[05:40:55] <CIA-37> HaikuPorts: mmu_man * r1872 /haikuports/trunk/dev-vcs/fossil/patches/ (. fossil-1.22.patch) http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1872 : Let 'fossil ui' open urls with 'open' on Haiku as well.[05:41:25] *** mdleblanc has joined #haiku[05:41:41] *** zid has left #haiku[05:51:29] *** papasmurf has quit IRC[06:14:36] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[06:40:46] *** wry has quit IRC[06:41:56] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[07:08:41] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[07:27:57] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[07:46:19] *** Smartnow has quit IRC[08:02:51] *** Smartnow has joined #haiku[08:08:31] <arfonzo> good morning guys[08:16:23] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[08:22:45] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[08:27:16] *** fhein has joined #haiku[09:00:28] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[09:31:03] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[09:49:58] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[10:11:57] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[10:32:26] <CIA-37> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev44062 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=fce97ba :[10:32:26] <CIA-37> Add support for the fossil scm[10:32:26] <CIA-37> Rework scm tests.[10:32:26] <CIA-37> Add a test for fossil checkouts.[10:35:48] *** tqh has joined #haiku[10:39:33] *** diver_ has joined #haiku[10:41:14] *** swarfega|away is now known as swarfega[10:54:20] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[11:00:32] *** Huggy has joined #haiku[11:18:01] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[11:19:06] <Anarchos> I have a strange behaviour with shared libs : nm says that there is no symbol, but readelf -s find them. And i cannot launch programs using them (error message : load error : symbol not found).[11:19:23] <Anarchos> any idea ?[11:21:21] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[11:30:28] *** tqh has quit IRC[11:45:21] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[11:50:59] *** mdleblanc has quit IRC[11:56:05] *** bjw has quit IRC[11:56:26] *** bjw has joined #haiku[12:04:51] *** tqh has joined #haiku[12:13:30] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[12:17:30] *** Gareth has quit IRC[12:19:34] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[12:22:59] *** Gareth has joined #haiku[12:25:23] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[12:25:34] <Anarchos> what ar the easy tasks that are still opened ?[12:28:54] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[12:31:11] *** tqh has quit IRC[12:39:15] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[12:42:07] *** PasNox has quit IRC[12:42:43] *** jimage has quit IRC[12:43:07] *** jimage has joined #haiku[12:45:36] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[12:56:56] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[13:00:23] *** lgtyp has joined #haiku[13:00:43] <lgtyp> what Haiku is different from ,let say linux ?[13:00:52] <lgtyp> that is the change in mentality here?[13:02:13] *** Barrett|Haiku has joined #haiku[13:19:21] <mmu_man> lgtyp: we try to do things consistently[13:19:32] <mmu_man> we control everything from kernel to the GUI[13:21:59] *** Barrett|Haiku has quit IRC[13:21:59] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[13:21:59] *** adamk has quit IRC[13:21:59] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[13:25:13] *** mdleblanc has joined #haiku[13:28:33] *** Barrett|Haiku has joined #haiku[13:28:33] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[13:28:33] *** adamk has joined #haiku[13:28:33] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[13:30:05] <lgtyp> mmu_man: is it the only main difference ?[13:35:37] <mmu_man> no but it influences much of everything[13:35:51] <mmu_man> we try to do one thing (desktop) and do it well[13:35:56] <mmu_man> KISS[13:36:21] <mmu_man> and we still have some features others want :p[13:36:52] <lgtyp> mmu_man: some time back you guys didnt have wpa_supplicant do you have it now?[13:37:17] <lgtyp> how is porting going on? it is easy or require a lot of coding?[13:40:11] *** mmu has joined #haiku[13:54:14] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:54:15] *** synchris has joined #haiku[13:54:26] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[13:56:26] <mmu_man> lgtyp: yes but it's not much tested[13:56:32] <mmu_man> there is even an alpha3 backport[13:58:35] *** fhein has quit IRC[14:03:10] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[14:10:02] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[14:11:36] *** fhein has joined #haiku[14:20:27] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[14:20:31] *** PasNox has quit IRC[14:35:36] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[14:36:22] *** LjL has quit IRC[14:42:49] <lgtyp> mmu_man: i like the ideia of developing everything together but that does not require a lot of men power in one project?[14:44:01] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[14:44:46] *** LjL has joined #haiku[14:45:38] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[14:49:13] *** kag_anil has joined #haiku[14:49:51] <mmu_man> ouch, my sources partition got corrupted[14:50:08] <mmu_man> lgtyp: yes but that doesn't mean we don't reuse other projects[14:50:16] <mmu_man> we just integrate them into our native framework[14:50:23] <mmu_man> like AGG, ffmpeg, FreeType...[14:51:01] <lgtyp> mmu_man: is there any companie giving money to haiku development?[14:52:11] <mmu_man> there used to be one employing core devs but they ran out of money at some point[14:53:42] <lgtyp> yeh that sucks it delays a bit the project if there is not money on it[14:54:55] *** martinhpedersen has quit IRC[14:55:16] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[14:56:32] <mmu_man> hmm seems the issue disapeared[14:56:39] <mmu_man> I should make backups :)[14:57:52] *** lgtyp has quit IRC[15:00:18] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[15:02:18] *** PasNox has quit IRC[15:02:18] *** luko has joined #haiku[15:02:18] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[15:02:36] <luko> hi[15:04:03] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[15:07:25] *** luko has quit IRC[15:09:38] *** kcj has quit IRC[15:10:21] *** orbital_fox has joined #haiku[15:19:42] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[15:29:25] <CIA-37> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev44063 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=b8c19d3 : Fix fossil checkout filename.[15:36:00] *** luko has joined #haiku[15:46:27] *** luko has quit IRC[15:51:22] <mmu_man> hmm ports.haiku-files down ?[15:52:24] <mmu_man> still pings but that's it[15:57:20] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[15:58:54] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[16:01:00] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[16:06:06] *** martinhpedersen has joined #haiku[16:10:45] *** yongcong has quit IRC[16:10:51] *** yongcong1 has joined #haiku[16:11:48] *** jjido has joined #haiku[16:12:03] *** PasNox has quit IRC[16:12:22] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[16:12:26] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[16:13:24] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[16:13:34] <Premislaus> hi[16:15:41] <mmu> plop[16:16:42] <Premislaus> mmu plunk plank flump plonk plunk :P[16:16:57] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[16:18:09] <Anarchos> mmu still can't launch an X server stable enough to display the app i compiled[16:24:40] *** jjido has quit IRC[16:27:41] *** mdleblanc has quit IRC[16:36:59] <Anarchos> would it be very difficult to port an X11/Motif app to native Haiku one ?[16:37:35] <arfonzo> hey all, does anyone know how to set background colours for terminal, I'm looking at TermParse.cpp.... I can't seem to use fAttr, BACKCOLOR, BACKCOLORED, and BACKSET to set the background colour properly...[16:38:35] <Anarchos> arfonzo preferences>colors in the application window.... ?[16:39:06] <arfonzo> er, sorry, I meant via parsing encoded text from terminal[16:39:18] <pulkomandy> arfonzo: they should just work[16:39:28] <pulkomandy> fAttr |= BACKCOLORED(5) or so[16:39:33] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: could I show you what I've got?[16:39:36] <pulkomandy> sure[16:39:51] <arfonzo> it all looks right to me, but it's not making the background colours... it's pickiong up all the right cases, etc... sec.[16:41:12] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[16:41:23] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: http://pastebin.com/6ZL1bb30[16:42:16] <arfonzo> could you look at cases 40-47, for example, I have split these out into separate cases, just to check the colours... it enters "case 46" for cyan, it jsut doesn't set BG to cyan with this code[16:42:30] *** yongcong1 has quit IRC[16:42:31] <arfonzo> hope I'm making sense... you can drop this into your Terminal src tree to test, etc.[16:42:54] <pulkomandy> well I don't see anything wrong with the code here...[16:43:15] <arfonzo> right... but... erm, it just doesn't seem to set it! something dodgy is going on[16:44:14] <arfonzo> http://fatcatsbbs.com/pub/test.ans <-- simple test ansi with background colours.[16:44:21] <pulkomandy> http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/apps/terminal/TermView.cpp[16:44:34] <pulkomandy> try to look at what's getting in _DrawLinePart here[16:44:41] <pulkomandy> can you check the colors are right at that point ?[16:45:09] <arfonzo> line 1123?[16:45:26] <pulkomandy> yes[16:45:39] <pulkomandy> rgb_back should be your color when drawing the right character[16:45:45] <arfonzo> ok... let me put in a few debug lines to output rgb_back[16:47:31] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[16:48:22] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[16:48:23] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[16:49:33] <arfonzo> hm, how would i use printf to output rgb_back? I.e., using %'s or something like this? :) :([16:49:52] <arfonzo> I can use %d for int backcolor, which seems to always be 0.[16:52:39] <pulkomandy> mh,weird[16:52:56] <pulkomandy> "something" must be removing the back color somewhere...[16:53:46] <pulkomandy> mh[16:53:48] <pulkomandy> case 37[16:53:56] <pulkomandy> fAttr &= FORECOLORED(8); should be fAttr &= ~FORECOLORED(8);[16:54:27] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[16:54:42] <pulkomandy> mh...[16:54:58] <pulkomandy> actually, should be fAttr &= ~FORECOLORED(7);[16:55:52] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: just a few minutes...[16:56:02] <pulkomandy> same for the other similar places, but I see they're all commented for now :)[16:57:36] *** yongcong1 has joined #haiku[16:57:37] <pulkomandy> mh... to keep the 256 color mode working it should even be ~FORECOLORED(255 - 8);[17:00:15] *** yongcong has quit IRC[17:06:39] *** yongcong1 has quit IRC[17:10:10] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:13:29] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: where should this line for the 256 color mode be? you mean case 38?[17:15:33] <arfonzo> i think, case 37 was messing things up, it looks correct now, I think! :) Let me do some more tests...[17:17:25] *** RQ has joined #haiku[17:24:32] <arfonzo> yippee, yes, I think it's working now, great! Thanks pulkomandy, don't know what I would have done without your help :)[17:25:26] *** Cian has joined #haiku[17:26:39] <pulkomandy> :)[17:27:07] <pulkomandy> arfonzo: not sure how to handle 256color mode at the same time as this actually[17:27:30] <pulkomandy> the problem is you can't know if you're in color 12 or color 4 + bold/bright mode[17:27:43] <pulkomandy> so, when doing "remove bold", what do you do ?[17:27:56] <pulkomandy> but, I guess that's ok for your use :)[17:31:31] <arfonzo> hm, yes, I have been aiming mostly to get the ANSI 16 colours working[17:31:51] <arfonzo> however if I can do some work to ensure 256 is not broken/working better, I'd be also happy to try...[17:32:09] <Cian> anyone seen scottmc around recently?[17:32:13] <arfonzo> the "big issue" now is how to handle the arrows in a way both ANSI friendly and that Haiku recognises[17:33:35] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:42:12] <pulkomandy> arfonzo: did you read the mailing list thread ?[17:42:33] <pulkomandy> apparently, you just need to update termcap/terminfo stuff in Haiku to change the key definitionsthere[17:43:39] <arfonzo> I did join it recently and I saw that. I don't quite understand the process yet tho.[17:43:52] <arfonzo> I'm quite a beginner, it's a wonder I've got so far.[17:43:55] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[17:44:13] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[17:44:32] <pulkomandy> termcap is a file somewhere (/etc/termcap or something similar) defining the codes to expect from the terminal[17:44:46] <pulkomandy> so we'd need to update it and change terminal to match[17:47:04] <arfonzo> ok, I shall take a look if I have a chance over this weekend. I didn't expect to be able to solve this BG colour mystery so quickly today ;)[17:50:12] *** RQ has quit IRC[17:50:35] *** RQ has joined #haiku[17:53:08] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[18:01:05] *** mr-rich has joined #haiku[18:01:33] <mr-rich> Does Alpha 3 have any known issues with vbox 4.1.x?[18:01:54] <arfonzo> mr-rich: I'm running it in the latest vbox without many issues.[18:02:09] <arfonzo> you can get some vbox additions[18:02:30] <arfonzo> also, I'm running the nightlies rather than A3[18:03:02] <mr-rich> arfonzo: I can't even get it to boot ... lights up all the icons and freezes ... I have to power off ...[18:03:37] <arfonzo> can you try the latest nightly image?[18:03:58] <mr-rich> tried it form both iso & vmdk ... same issue[18:04:41] <mr-rich> not time now ... have to go to work ... but I will try ...[18:05:01] <arfonzo> sure, a bunch of stuff is fixed in nightly. I would try that.[18:05:23] <mr-rich> btw. what's next? A4 or r3/4/5 ... ?[18:07:57] <Anarchos> mr-rich i think it will be alpha4 or beta1[18:09:07] *** zhangkaizhao has joined #haiku[18:09:26] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: I see in /etc/termcap: ansi+arrows:\ :kb=^H:kd=\E[B:kh=\E[H:kl=\E[D:kr=\E[C:ku=\E[A:[18:09:40] <arfonzo> this looks ok? or am i not looking in the correct area...[18:10:02] <pulkomandy> termcap has definitions for a lot of terminal types[18:10:21] <pulkomandy> look for the "xterm" one, it should have the same \EOA stuff as in the sourcecode[18:12:31] <arfonzo> hm, i'm using xterm-color, so i'm looking here, and I see both:[18:12:43] <arfonzo> ku=\EOA: and up=\E[A:[18:13:35] <arfonzo> can i just add onto this a new "ku" statement to define the [A?[18:24:15] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[18:26:33] <pulkomandy> arfonzo: that should do it, yes[18:27:39] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: so there can be two values for "ku" defined within the "xterm" section?[18:27:53] <arfonzo> also, if i define in "xterm" will that get overridden by "xterm-color"?[18:28:00] <pulkomandy> no, replace the other one[18:28:20] <pulkomandy> or, make your terminal be "fonzoterm" instead of "xterm-color" and add that to termcap[18:28:31] <pulkomandy> or use another one of the existing definitions that matches what you need[18:28:34] <arfonzo> aha, great idea :)[18:31:50] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: have you any idea what two char abbreviation for insert key code?[18:35:39] *** RQ has quit IRC[18:36:51] <arfonzo> hm, seems to be kI, which is defined the same as I've done in VTkeymap, but doesn't seem to work \E[2~[18:37:48] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[18:40:05] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[18:40:49] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[18:41:22] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[18:42:05] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[18:42:55] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[18:48:15] *** bjw has quit IRC[18:49:20] *** bjw__ has joined #haiku[18:49:20] *** bjw__ has joined #haiku[18:56:08] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[19:02:52] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[19:16:39] <Anarchos> how can i launch all the tests while jamming haiku ?[19:25:58] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[19:28:36] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[19:30:00] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[19:30:25] *** juaa_ has quit IRC[19:35:44] *** MYOB has joined #haiku[19:36:59] *** Cian has quit IRC[19:37:15] *** Hubert^^ has joined #haiku[19:40:06] *** Barrett|Haiku has quit IRC[19:42:37] *** wry has joined #haiku[20:06:49] *** jjido has joined #haiku[20:07:09] *** jua_ has quit IRC[20:09:33] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[20:12:14] *** jjido has quit IRC[20:15:47] *** jjido has joined #haiku[20:17:30] *** jjido has quit IRC[20:17:42] *** jjido has joined #haiku[20:20:55] *** Hubert^^ has quit IRC[20:21:59] *** synchris has quit IRC[20:32:11] *** tqh has quit IRC[20:37:41] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[20:47:27] <jua_> Is it possible to change the hostname in Haiku?[20:48:29] *** tqh has joined #haiku[20:48:30] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[20:49:45] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[20:50:59] <arfonzo> cool, I just submitted my first app to haikuware, that was surprisingly easy.[20:52:55] *** wry has quit IRC[20:55:29] <mmu> VBoxManage setextradata "Haiku work gcc4" CustomVideoMode2 1920x1200x32[20:55:30] <mmu> :)[20:56:29] <arfonzo> always handy to remember :)[20:56:55] <arfonzo> jua_: you can if you build from source and modify the build files.[20:58:18] <jua_> aah, ok[20:58:35] <jua_> weird that it's hardcoded like that...[21:01:29] <Anarchos> arfonzo which one ?[21:03:10] *** synchris has joined #haiku[21:03:10] *** synchris has joined #haiku[21:03:54] *** jjido has quit IRC[21:07:30] <arfonzo> Anarchos: you must modify /disk1/src/haiku-git/haiku/build/jam/ReleaseBuildProfiles[21:09:32] <Anarchos> arfonzo was it really intented for me ?[21:09:34] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:11:03] <arfonzo> Anarchos: sorry, I misunderstood you. I uploaded to Haikuware, FonzoTerm.[21:11:22] *** Skipp__OSX has joined #haiku[21:12:10] <Anarchos> arfonzo ok :)[21:12:14] *** luko has joined #haiku[21:12:22] *** luko has quit IRC[21:12:23] <Anarchos> arfonzo i must polish my TeXLive port :)[21:12:46] <arfonzo> I see a few things I have compiled for haiku, which were fairly easy to compile, such as powder. Are these worth uploading?[21:12:52] *** luko has joined #haiku[21:13:12] <arfonzo> also, newer versions of arora, cmake, qupzilla, some others.[21:13:44] <arfonzo> the problem is I've not tested them much and I wouldn't want to do any damage to anyone.[21:14:01] <jayrulez> arfonzo wouldn't Haiku devs accept patches to the native terminal?[21:14:09] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:14:36] <arfonzo> jayrulez: I am not sure, and I am fairly certain this is not what "most people" want.[21:15:02] <jayrulez> does your changes take away any features from the native terminal?[21:15:06] <arfonzo> I'm trying to build everything in nicely as a set of options, which would make a patch much more logical.[21:15:18] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[21:15:23] <jayrulez> I'm fairly certain accept it if it improves it and doesn't break anything[21:15:37] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[21:15:42] <arfonzo> jayrulez: I do believe there are still some issues with it, also such changes to /etc/termcap.[21:15:56] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[21:16:02] <arfonzo> I can't guarantee it doesn't break anything ;) sorry... I'm new to this.[21:16:12] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[21:16:12] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[21:16:13] <jayrulez> would rather see things improved rather than forked, else haiku will start looking like the linux landscape if everyone does that[21:16:43] <jayrulez> 100 different apps to do the same thing and yet nothing comparable to photoshop[21:16:44] <arfonzo> so would i jayrulez. But, I am hesitant to submit code. You can understand, I'm not a developer.[21:16:57] <jayrulez> I understand[21:17:19] <jayrulez> Not saying you shouldn't do this work[21:17:21] <arfonzo> I am more than happy to tho, and I hope once I get a bit better at all this, I can submit a patch :)[21:17:59] <mmadia> btw arfonzo -- /boot/common/settings/network/hostname[21:18:09] <arfonzo> but at the moment, I don't trust my skill enough, especially not to have others rely on as their main terminal :) :([21:18:16] <mmadia> err, i mean jua_[21:18:56] <jua_> mmadia, aah great, thanks. I only looked in home/config/settings and didn't find it :)[21:19:02] <arfonzo> thanks mmadia, I've forgot this file as well. jua_ this file is the better way to change hostname. building if you want to change username and hostname, sorry.[21:20:11] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[21:22:47] <arfonzo> jayrulez: the sources are also up, if any dev wants to integrate/look at what I have done.[21:24:48] *** luko has quit IRC[21:33:38] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[21:34:57] *** luko has joined #haiku[21:43:15] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[21:54:10] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[22:07:56] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[22:18:39] *** duvjones has quit IRC[22:42:47] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[22:48:11] *** sl_ has joined #haiku[22:48:12] *** sl__ has quit IRC[22:52:38] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[22:59:11] *** fhein has quit IRC[23:10:16] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[23:12:17] *** PasNox has quit IRC[23:12:18] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[23:14:33] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[23:21:52] *** PasNox has quit IRC[23:21:58] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[23:23:44] *** duvjones has quit IRC[23:25:08] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[23:31:17] *** luko has quit IRC[23:33:43] *** orbital_fox has quit IRC[23:42:39] *** MYOB has quit IRC[23:42:42] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:44:52] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[23:46:39] *** kcj has joined #haiku[23:49:31] *** Anarchos has quit IRC