April 19, 2012 
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April 19, 2012 [00:00:11] <rennj> amiga forever suppose to be pretty good[00:01:02] <rennj> http://i53.tinypic.com/10y3ynk.jpg[00:07:43] *** Madd_the_Sane has quit IRC[00:11:10] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[00:15:13] *** Madd_the_Sane has joined #haiku[00:15:38] <Madd_the_Sane> What is the best emulated sound card to use for Haiku?[00:18:09] <rennj> es1371 i use in vmware[00:20:57] *** arti has quit IRC[00:22:23] *** sambagirl has quit IRC[00:23:50] <Madd_the_Sane> The reason I asked is because one of the nightly builds had a buggy AC97 driver.[00:23:57] <Madd_the_Sane> It seems to be fixed now.[00:24:23] <Madd_the_Sane> Does Haiku's top list threads instead of processes?[00:28:54] <Madd_the_Sane> Ooh, I got it to print from my Mac's printer.[00:29:00] <Madd_the_Sane> Didn't print the colors, though[00:29:03] <Madd_the_Sane> Hmm...[00:36:22] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[00:40:31] *** Huggy has quit IRC[00:45:45] *** romain__ has joined #haiku[00:47:43] *** luroh has quit IRC[00:54:44] <Madd_the_Sane> huh...[00:55:11] <Madd_the_Sane> Apparently Tracker doesn't like nfs "volumes"[00:57:24] <Madd_the_Sane> Haiku's printing framework supports color, right?[01:07:05] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[01:09:35] *** Bryanstein has quit IRC[01:11:27] *** Bryanstein has joined #haiku[01:11:57] *** Luigi021 has quit IRC[01:13:01] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[01:13:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[01:14:54] *** Bryanstein has quit IRC[01:19:35] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[01:21:01] *** TimKack` has quit IRC[01:23:37] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[01:24:33] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[01:25:14] *** markos_ has quit IRC[01:40:53] *** DHowett has quit IRC[01:42:16] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[01:42:26] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[01:48:07] *** romain__ has quit IRC[01:48:09] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[01:51:52] *** DHowett has joined #haiku[02:04:23] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:04:39] *** _marc` has quit IRC[02:15:26] *** oco2 has quit IRC[02:21:18] *** Bryanstein has joined #haiku[02:36:06] *** shevy has quit IRC[02:47:06] *** hamishm has quit IRC[02:48:33] *** shevy has joined #haiku[02:50:16] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[03:02:58] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[03:14:04] *** Barrett has quit IRC[03:30:50] *** dr_evil_ has joined #haiku[03:34:13] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[03:37:39] *** Premislaus_ has joined #haiku[03:39:36] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[03:39:50] *** Premislaus_ is now known as Premislaus[03:42:27] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[03:52:11] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[04:00:54] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[04:12:11] <CIA-37> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev44058 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=9ac6fee : (log message trimmed)[04:12:11] <CIA-37> Rename "deskbar_rt_" back to "Status".[04:12:11] <CIA-37> Siarzhuk Zharski informed me that KeymapSwitcher depends on this[04:12:11] <CIA-37> view being named "Status" to work, so, renamed it back to that.[04:12:11] <CIA-37> Instead of sending the message by name to the replicant tray view,[04:12:12] <CIA-37> since the view name "Status" is not very unique and I fear that[04:12:13] <CIA-37> there could be collisions, resend the message to BarView which[04:13:15] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[04:19:19] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:21:29] *** papasmurf has quit IRC[04:21:55] *** papasmurf has joined #haiku[04:22:56] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[04:33:41] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[04:47:34] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[04:49:11] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[05:03:13] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has quit IRC[05:13:09] *** Madd_the_Sane has quit IRC[05:22:06] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[05:29:50] *** andrewbachmann has joined #haiku[05:33:54] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[05:43:11] *** jprostko has quit IRC[05:49:37] *** Xeon3D has quit IRC[05:50:46] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[05:57:05] *** volci has joined #haiku[06:00:39] *** papasmurf has quit IRC[06:07:19] *** Xeon3D has joined #haiku[06:34:16] *** volci has quit IRC[06:35:10] *** Guest91141 has joined 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showing in the Terminal font selection preferences drop down... does anyone know why this is?[09:06:20] *** Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D|Zzz[09:07:25] *** ashish__ has quit IRC[09:10:54] *** Xeon3D|Zzz is now known as Xeon3D[09:15:30] *** MindChild has quit IRC[09:19:02] *** fhein has quit IRC[09:19:05] *** MindChild has joined #haiku[09:19:40] <HaikuUser> maybe only mono fonts will appear in terminal window font selector?[09:20:27] *** Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D|Zzz[09:22:34] <arfonzo> HaikuUser: this is a monospace font I'm trying[09:22:49] <arfonzo> I did think that somehow haiku is not picking up on this, tho...[09:25:30] <HaikuUser> when i open the Settings>settings> panel in the terminal only 5 fonts show up[09:25:44] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[09:25:53] <HaikuUser> four deja vu sans mono fonts and Vl Gothic regular[09:26:17] <arfonzo> yeah, the thing is, I've also installed droid sans mono, and DOSEGA ttf fonts, which are monospace, and these show up in that list also[09:26:50] *** adev_ has joined #haiku[09:26:51] *** adev has joined #haiku[09:26:54] <arfonzo> but another one, fsex300 (fixedsysexcelsior) isn't showing here. It does show in "Appearances" preflet, for example[09:27:01] *** Xeon3D|Zzz is now known as Xeon3D[09:27:03] <HaikuUser> so you're only getting mono fonts to appear in the terminal?[09:27:26] <arfonzo> (and fsex300 is a monospace font)[09:27:30] <arfonzo> yes HaikuUser[09:27:58] <HaikuUser> hmmm...i would have thought fsex300 would have shown up then, i don't know[09:28:50] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[09:28:54] <arfonzo> yar, it's odd[09:29:21] *** Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D|Zzz[09:29:32] <HaikuUser> fsex300 is for sure mono?[09:30:13] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[09:31:18] <arfonzo> I believe so, I've been using it as such on other OSes... the website is here: http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/[09:32:18] <HaikuUser> hmm, i don't know i've just started using haiku myself, but i bet it has something to do with the system not recognizing it as a "legit" mono font[09:33:08] <arfonzo> aye, I agree... unfortunately I'm not that knowledgeable on fonts.[09:33:24] <HaikuUser> me either, but good luck :-)[09:34:27] *** adev has quit IRC[09:34:56] *** duvjones has quit IRC[09:34:59] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[09:48:51] *** Xeon3D|Zzz is now known as Xeon3D[09:48:54] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[09:49:05] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[09:56:45] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:02:57] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:03:44] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:04:16] *** kieselsteini has joined #haiku[10:05:08] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:05:51] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[10:06:05] *** _marc` has quit IRC[10:09:40] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:11:28] *** TimKack has joined #haiku[10:16:45] *** synchris has quit IRC[10:29:48] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:33:03] *** _marc` has quit IRC[10:33:36] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:45:23] *** missPapaya has joined #haiku[10:58:48] *** swarfega|away is now known as swarfega[11:10:42] *** missPapaya has left #haiku[11:25:56] <arfonzo> how would I check what the current font family is, in Terminal? I see the default font family settings, but don't really understand how to check what the current font family's name is.[11:36:02] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[11:55:20] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[12:12:22] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[12:22:00] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[12:25:44] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[12:29:32] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[12:30:34] *** HaikuUser is now known as Zc456[12:37:50] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[12:37:52] *** Zc456 has quit IRC[12:48:29] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[12:48:41] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[12:48:44] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[13:03:17] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[13:03:18] *** Barrett has quit IRC[13:05:47] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[13:06:06] <Premislaus> Hello :)[13:07:26] <arfonzo> hi Premislaus[13:08:36] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[13:08:42] <Premislaus> arfonzo: How are you?[13:09:55] <Premislaus> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.3R/announce.html - new FreeBSD. Maybe there will be new drivers in Haiku and solve some problems?[13:11:53] <arfonzo> Premislaus: well, thanks. Just trying to make it through the work day here--and you?[13:12:00] <arfonzo> What do FreeBSD and Haiku share?[13:13:00] <Premislaus> I'm fine. I just found a free moment at work :).[13:13:48] <Premislaus> network drivers - compatibility layer[13:14:40] <Premislaus> Kallisti5: When do you think you can expect to llvmpipe in Haiku?[13:16:13] *** Moiman has left #haiku[13:17:16] *** Forca has joined #haiku[13:19:54] <arfonzo> cool Premislaus, didn't know this.[13:29:40] <Dane__> mmu_man[13:36:31] <Dane__> The following works from Terminal...[13:36:41] <Dane__> grep "somestring" /boot/TextFiles/* > /boot/home/Desktop/Resultfile.txt[13:37:14] <Dane__> Any reason it wouldn't work if saved as a script? I get an error saying Haiku couldn't find a file to open it with.[13:49:35] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[13:52:52] <mmu_man> plop[13:53:08] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:53:53] <mmu_man> Dane__: odd, it should work[13:54:15] <mmu_man> wait you mean you can't open the script ?[13:54:19] <mmu_man> chmod +x[13:54:35] <Dane__> mmu_man It almost seems like this version of Haiku has a problem running scripts that have their executable bit written by this version[13:54:48] <Dane__> If the executable was there from before, the script is OK[13:55:13] <mmu_man> ?[13:55:33] <Dane__> Previous scripts (from earlier Haiku) work[13:55:34] <mmu_man> are you sure you have the hashbang first ?[13:55:36] <mmu_man> #!/bin/sh[13:55:51] <Dane__> I'll try that again though I think I tried that already.[13:55:53] <Dane__> sec[13:57:01] <Dane__> Ah, maybe that was it.[13:57:11] <Dane__> Trying a newly created script with that, and the chmod[13:57:12] <Dane__> sec[13:58:02] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[13:58:07] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[13:58:38] <Dane__> mmu_man "You saved my again"[13:58:55] <Dane__> thanks[13:59:07] <mmu_man> :p[14:05:25] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[14:10:16] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[14:10:29] *** kcj has quit IRC[14:11:00] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[14:15:53] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[14:22:46] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[14:29:24] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[14:29:43] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[14:30:03] *** Megaf has quit IRC[14:33:35] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[14:33:45] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[14:51:23] *** duvjones has quit IRC[14:52:22] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[14:54:52] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[15:16:03] *** Huggy has joined #haiku[15:24:32] *** DraX_ has joined #haiku[15:27:32] *** DraX has quit IRC[15:28:23] *** Barrett has quit IRC[15:28:32] *** DraX_ is now known as DraX[15:36:16] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[15:39:49] *** mrsun has quit IRC[15:40:34] *** mrsun has joined #haiku[15:40:36] *** J-Ho has left #haiku[15:44:26] *** Constant_J-C has joined #haiku[15:48:09] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[15:48:34] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[15:49:47] <Dane__> Can someone tell me who is the main coder who worked (works) on the HDA driver?[15:53:11] <arfonzo> Dane__: I don't know, but does this help? http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=grep&q=HDA+driver[15:53:31] <Premislaus> Dane__ maybe korli or axeld http://dev.haiku-os.org/query?status=assigned&status=in-progress&status=new&status=reopened&component=^Drivers%2FAudio%2FHDA&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&order=priority[15:53:51] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[15:54:06] <Dane__> ah, thanks much for that[15:55:24] <Premislaus> Does anyone else have this computer - http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/CFL-003-B[15:55:26] <Premislaus> ??[15:56:23] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[15:56:49] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[16:11:48] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[16:20:42] <Dane__> dr_evil_[16:31:26] *** yongcong1 has joined #haiku[16:32:32] *** yongcong has quit IRC[16:34:05] <mmu_man> Premislaus: RMS has one but he's not Haiku coder :D[16:36:50] <Premislaus> mmu_man: Saint IGNUcius :>??[16:38:27] <Premislaus> Maybe I send him an e-mail to abandon the "GNU \ Linux";) for Haiku.[16:38:30] <Premislaus> :)[16:39:15] <Premislaus> http://stallman.org/saintignucius.jpg[16:39:53] <Premislaus> http://stallman.org/saint.html lol[16:40:18] <Premislaus> "Stallman is a saint in the Church of Emacs---Saint IGNUcius.[16:40:20] <Premislaus> I bless your computer, my child! (jpeg 31k, photo by Wouter van Oortmerssen) " xD[16:40:41] *** Feint has joined #haiku[16:46:10] <Dane__> looks like Mail for Haiku is a little ambitious when retrieving e-mails from GMail...it returns lots of "too many simultaneous connections" errors.[16:47:13] <Dane__> Failed to login: NO [ALERT] Too many simultaneous connections. (Failure) [Thu Apr 19 14:46:57 2012][16:47:16] <Dane__> over and over[16:51:02] <mmu_man> Premislaus: he knows about Haiku[16:51:09] <mmu_man> I met him at RMLL[16:51:31] <mmu_man> he suggested we name our kernel Limerick so we can call the OS GNU/Limerick :)[16:53:07] <Premislaus> And what did he say?[16:53:31] *** yongcong1 has quit IRC[16:53:32] <Premislaus> hmm[16:54:05] <OmniMancer> why should our OS be called GNU/anything?[16:54:16] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[16:54:22] <Premislaus> BSD/NewOS ;)[16:54:33] <helf|laptop> hi[16:54:40] *** dcase has joined #haiku[16:54:49] *** Feint has left #haiku[16:55:38] *** johndrinkwater has quit IRC[16:55:46] <Premislaus> BTW, I saw somewhere a page with a description of operating systems. Haiku complained that it is not entirely free, and has binary blobs.[16:56:42] <Premislaus> *complained Haiku[16:58:18] <Premislaus> mmu_man: And he was using Haiku?[16:58:49] <mmu_man> no[16:59:15] <mmu_man> Premislaus: well it's not less Free than Ubuntu :p[16:59:20] <mmu_man> or FreeBSD[16:59:31] <Premislaus> Even for a moment?[16:59:37] <mmu_man> we use some binary firmwares just like others (yeah that sux)[17:00:00] <mmu_man> and Wonderbrush is a demo version (not FLOSS)[17:00:07] <mmu_man> (though maybe you can convince stippi)[17:00:24] <helf|laptop> ha, I somehow doubt you could convince him :p[17:00:34] <Premislaus> I'm not a open source Zealot.[17:00:37] <mmu_man> did you try? :p[17:01:25] <helf|laptop> I think i did ages ago[17:01:35] <mmu_man> well I'm not on a crusade, but nevertheless I tend to trust things I can compile and read for myself[17:02:56] <Premislaus> of course, open hardware interested me more[17:03:57] <helf|laptop> mmu_man, i let you nuts tell me if its secure[17:04:03] <mmu_man> well at least I expect to get specs when I buy something[17:04:10] <mmu_man> still waiting for those from lenovo...[17:06:15] <Premislaus> I'd like to see in Haiku also commercial software. The worst part is that the drivers are closed. Even basic hardware support.[17:11:22] <Premislaus> Haiku is slow to develop, through the closed driver.[17:14:23] *** synchris has joined #haiku[17:14:24] *** synchris has joined #haiku[17:14:37] *** [aspirin] has quit IRC[17:14:43] *** [aspirin] has joined #haiku[17:17:35] <Premislaus> mmu_man you will do port Haiku for Sam 460ex?[17:27:55] * Dane__ would love to see all talk of ports put aside until after R1 is done[17:28:20] <mmu_man> Premislaus: seems so[17:28:28] <mmu_man> I meet Elwood quite often anyway[17:28:50] <mmu_man> I thought he had someone else to do it but seems none followed[17:29:12] * mmu_man throws a pile of Atari Falcons over Dane__[17:29:25] <mmu_man> beware, rare precious stuff, be careful :p[17:29:43] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:29:50] *** johndrinkwater has joined #haiku[17:30:23] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[17:32:26] <Premislaus> I do not think would Amigans have used Haiku.[17:32:42] * Dane__ still has Amiga here[17:33:08] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[17:33:23] <Premislaus> They have their "religion." And this is a very expensive computer.[17:33:39] <Premislaus> underpowered[17:35:54] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[17:36:03] <Premislaus> Probably have some business agreement, because he did not sell computers without the Amiga OS.[17:43:58] <Skipp_OSX> Premislaus: kallisti5 is the dev working on Radeon HD[17:44:57] <Skipp_OSX> gtg[17:45:01] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[17:45:05] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[17:48:28] <arfonzo> hi pulkomandy, i was able to do a lot of what I wanted with Terminal after our chat yesterday, thanks. :)[17:48:42] <pulkomandy> nice :)[17:48:49] <pulkomandy> do you plan to submit a patch back ?[17:49:24] <arfonzo> If that's what the devs want, sure, however from the comments I Was told, the colours are a cosmetic change and it is already considered "ansi compatible"...[17:50:04] <arfonzo> so i don't think either would end up being used... in any event there is more I would like to do... which perhaps you could help with[17:51:16] <arfonzo> I notice arrow keys are not working properly over ANSI: for example, if I telnet into a BBS, use the message editor, arrow keys spit out "OA" for up, "OB" for down, instead of moving cursor... I know ESC A is up, ESC B is down.. but what could be causing this to happen?[17:51:26] *** alexandros_c has quit IRC[17:52:39] <arfonzo> I also tried to "catch" instances of up/down being pressed, I tried the "case CASE_CUU:" in TermParse.cpp, and this didn't really seem to do it[17:53:49] <pulkomandy> well, I just said that the terminal is technically ANSI compliant on this aspect[17:54:07] <pulkomandy> that doesn't mean it's perfect, and I'm all for getting it to work better with apps around[17:55:35] <pulkomandy> if you see OA or weird stuff like that, it means Terminal is not doing the parsing anymore[17:55:44] <pulkomandy> either telnet or the BBS server is doing it[17:55:51] <pulkomandy> they get the raw keycodes directly[17:56:22] <arfonzo> hm... ok[17:56:38] <arfonzo> why is it, that the keys sometimes work on the bbs server, and sometimes not?[17:56:44] <pulkomandy> likely you entered the case CASE_IGNORE_ESC and now use the gIesTable[17:57:59] <pulkomandy> mh... that sounds like a bug :)[17:58:02] <arfonzo> ok, thanks for this info as always, let me take a look at this after work tonight :)[17:58:22] <pulkomandy> maybe the BBS sets the ignore escape mode on and off depending on what it wants to do[17:58:34] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: whether it's a bbs/editor side bug or not, it seems to do this on all ANSI BBSes[17:58:38] <pulkomandy> sometmes using the terminal in "smart mode" and sometimes getting the raw codes directly[17:59:04] <arfonzo> and other terminals don't seem to have this problem... so I'm thinking there must be a way to achieve this on the terminal side (whichever side is to blame :) )[17:59:09] <pulkomandy> mh[17:59:25] <pulkomandy> maybe we use the 8 bit escape code ?[17:59:26] <arfonzo> hm, yes it could be something like this mode you're describing...[17:59:43] <pulkomandy> CSI A, CSI B, ... instead of ESC [ A, ESC [ B, ...[18:00:14] <pulkomandy> the CSI is a controL CHAR > 127, which is a synonym of ESC [ I think[18:03:28] <pulkomandy> 0x9B[18:03:43] <Dane__> Anybody know of a Haiku driver for the Realtek RTL8111E chip ?[18:04:18] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: I've just tested, it does not seem to enter the CASE_IGNORE_ESC case[18:04:58] <pulkomandy> ok, so try to have a look at which control codes are sent by the arrow keys[18:05:20] <arfonzo> how would I do this?[18:05:47] <humdinger> Dane__: Isn't that one supported out of the box?[18:05:48] <pulkomandy> mh... trying to think of a way...[18:05:57] *** alexandros_c has joined #haiku[18:05:58] <pulkomandy> or just look in the code[18:06:10] <Dane__> humdinger It'd be great if it was...didn't happen with our mobo here, but maybe we missed something[18:06:22] <arfonzo> I've looked briefly at: VTparse.h:#define CASE_CUU 24[18:06:22] <arfonzo> VTPrsTbl.c:CASE_CUU,[18:06:30] <Dane__> humdinger http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3894[18:06:37] *** PasNox has quit IRC[18:07:02] <arfonzo> sorry, wish i was better at this[18:07:24] <humdinger> Dane__: At least { RL_HWREV_8168E, RL_8169, "8168E/8111E", RL_JUMBO_MTU_9K}, is listed in src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/rtl81xx/dev/re/if_re.c[18:07:38] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[18:07:39] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[18:07:50] <pulkomandy> arfonzo: #define LEFT_ARROW_KEY_CODE "\033OD"[18:07:58] <pulkomandy> in vtkeymap.h[18:08:14] <pulkomandy> this doesn't look like the ANSI escape sequence to me...[18:08:40] <arfonzo> a ha, great.... hm[18:09:41] <Dane__> humdinger Is that one of those "optional packages" you get via terminal?[18:09:46] <Premislaus> Dane__ my wi-fi card (Realtek) is on the list, but does not work...[18:09:54] <Dane__> Premislaus k[18:10:02] <pulkomandy> arfonzo: to me it looks like the O there should be a [ instead[18:10:24] <arfonzo> that is moreso what an ansi esc code would look to me as wel...[18:10:34] <arfonzo> ok, well, one way to find out is to try, give me a moment. :)[18:10:44] <humdinger> Dane__: No, it should be included in every image as rtl81xx driver[18:11:11] <Dane__> Ah yes I see it there[18:11:51] <Dane__> Thanks[18:12:01] <Dane__> I'll make another whack at trying to get it to work.[18:12:18] <humdinger> Dane__: is it listed with "listimage | grep rtl81"[18:13:17] <humdinger> That'd mean that the driver is at least loaded, even if it doesn't seem to work with your hardware.[18:13:58] <Dane__> ah, trying that![18:14:06] <Dane__> humdinger[18:14:09] <Dane__> /> listimage | grep rtl81[18:14:09] <Dane__> TEAM 88217 (/bin/grep rtl81):[18:14:10] <Dane__> />[18:14:12] *** adev_ has quit IRC[18:14:15] <Dane__> Does that mean it is seen?[18:14:19] <humdinger> Nope.[18:14:26] <humdinger> that's just the grep team...[18:14:35] <Dane__> It might be disabled in BIOS though.[18:14:44] <Dane__> From when we were setting things up[18:14:58] <Dane__> I think the guy who made this for me tried the built-in first and failed with it[18:15:55] * Dane__ will try a reboot and see what happens with it enabled[18:15:57] <Dane__> bbiab[18:16:00] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[18:16:07] <humdinger> Maybe someone can help if you open a bugreport with the entry listed with "listdev".[18:17:58] *** jimage has quit IRC[18:18:49] *** Dane__ has joined #haiku[18:19:16] *** jimage has joined #haiku[18:19:22] <Dane__> humdinger[18:19:25] <Dane__> /> listimage | grep rtl81[18:19:26] <Dane__> 1006 /boot/system/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev/net/rtl81xx 0x81139000 0x81153000 0 0[18:19:27] <Dane__> TEAM 296 (/bin/grep rtl81):[18:19:32] <humdinger> there it is![18:19:40] <Dane__> Seems to find it now, but doesn't show up in Net Prefs[18:19:41] <humdinger> and, does it work?[18:19:46] <Dane__> Not available in list[18:19:50] <Dane__> In Network Prefs[18:19:54] <Dane__> Just my 3com card[18:20:23] <Dane__> Well, it was worth a shot![18:20:30] <Dane__> Thanks for the info humdinger[18:21:08] <humdinger> Others are better with drivers and hw etc...[18:21:14] <humdinger> does ifconfig show it?[18:22:07] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: guess what?[18:22:20] <pulkomandy> it works ?[18:22:22] <arfonzo> arrows work now. :)[18:22:26] <pulkomandy> great :)[18:22:37] <pulkomandy> I have no idea how this O sneaked in there ?[18:22:42] <arfonzo> the thing is, I'm not sure the implications of this[18:23:10] <arfonzo> this is part of the problem with submitting patches... I'm just not a good coder, and I wouldn't want anyone to rely on my code modifications...[18:23:45] <pulkomandy> http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/src/apps/terminal/VTkeymap.h?id=a71fd7987b6eda68698e0b342afcd7890d2f4d86[18:24:03] <pulkomandy> arfonzo: attach it to a ticket and don't worry[18:24:14] <pulkomandy> we will have a very close look at it before commiting it[18:24:37] <arfonzo> so while i'm more than happy to share the src mods, i am kind of uneasy about submitting it as a patch for haiku[18:24:38] <Dane__> OmniMancer No, not in ifconfig[18:24:46] <arfonzo> ok pulkomandy! I'll do that. :)[18:25:36] <arfonzo> hm... I am looking at this commit pulkomandy ... "* Changed generated key sequences to be more ANSI/xterm."[18:25:48] <pulkomandy> looks like an error to me[18:25:48] <diver_> Dane__: try to remove /boot/common/settings/interfaces and reboot[18:25:51] <arfonzo> doesn't this commit make it LESS ansi?[18:25:56] <Dane__> diver_ will do[18:26:07] <pulkomandy> I'm sending an email to the development mailing list to ask and will check xterm sourcecode[18:26:16] <arfonzo> ok, thanks pulkomandy[18:26:34] *** kieselsteini has quit IRC[18:26:40] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[18:26:42] <humdinger> diver: I once had a /boot/common/settings/interfaces but it doesn't seem to be created any longer...[18:27:23] <humdinger> or maybe it's created by the Network prefs?[18:27:57] <humdinger> Haven't opened that in a while and don't want to jinx it, now that finally my wireless WPA network works...[18:28:18] <diver_> humdinger: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/7475 looks similar[18:28:45] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[18:28:49] <diver_> probably when you set an interface to static[18:28:52] *** Dane_ is now known as Dane__[18:29:04] <humdinger> ah[18:29:42] <Dane__> It MIGHT be using it![18:29:46] <Dane__> Appears to be[18:29:49] <humdinger> Ii knew in the past when activating my wireless card, it'd kick out the LAN entry in there.... might have tried static back then.[18:30:02] <humdinger> diver_ to the rescue! :)[18:30:05] <Dane__> It's listed in ifconfig now[18:30:08] <Dane__> hehe[18:30:09] <Dane__> :-)[18:30:11] *** fhein has joined #haiku[18:30:27] * Dane__ is going to shut down, remove the NIC card and reboot just to be sure[18:30:31] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[18:32:03] *** rennj has quit IRC[18:32:33] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[18:33:51] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[18:33:51] *** Dane_ is now known as Dane__[18:33:57] <Dane__> woo hoo[18:34:08] <Dane__> diver_ and humdinger You're amazing[18:34:18] <Dane__> One more free slot[18:34:20] <humdinger> well... at least diver_ is...[18:34:29] <diver_> hehe :-)[18:34:30] <Dane__> hehe don't be modest[18:34:34] <Dane__> ok thanks guys[18:34:36] <Dane__> lunch![18:34:42] <humdinger> dinner![18:34:48] *** humdinger is now known as humdinner[18:36:35] <arfonzo> pulkomandy: ok, i have created this ticket for the arrows issue - https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8482[18:38:35] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[18:38:37] <arfonzo> diver_: thanks ;)[18:38:42] <diver_> arfonzo: np[18:39:22] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[18:39:25] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[18:39:26] <diver_> arfonzo: it's better to create patches with git format-patch[18:42:22] <diver_> arfonzo: git commit VTkeymap.h and then git format-patch origin VTkeymap.h[18:43:21] *** Dane__ is now known as FastLunch[18:43:32] * FastLunch marvels at having his onboard NIC recognized[18:43:55] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[18:45:34] <arfonzo> diver_: i'll have to try this out next time[18:50:25] *** FastLunch has quit IRC[18:53:23] *** TimKack has quit IRC[18:53:52] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[18:53:53] *** luko has joined #haiku[18:54:32] <luko> hi[19:01:30] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[19:01:33] *** Dane_ is now known as Dane__[19:02:02] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[19:02:26] <Dane__> OK! Next question, has anyone been successful getting the C-Media cards such as the 8738 to work in Haiku? The only driver I am finding for it is legacy BeOS and doesn't result in the card being shown in Media Prefs.[19:03:20] <Dane__> It shows up in listdev...[19:03:23] <Dane__> device Multimedia controller (Multimedia audio controller) [4|1|0][19:03:23] <Dane__> vendor 13f6: C-Media Electronics Inc[19:03:24] <Dane__> device 0111: CM8738[19:03:43] <Dane__> And it's listed as "compatible" in Haikuware's site[19:05:40] <diver_> Dane__: how did you install this driver?[19:07:50] <Dane__> diver_ I downloaded it, unzipped it, ran the Install file[19:08:42] <Dane__> it is located in /boot/home/config/add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin[19:08:44] <diver_> could you give me a link?[19:08:55] <Dane__> Sometimes these drivers have to have an extra link to another folder, don't they?[19:09:06] <diver_> always[19:09:12] *** luroh has joined #haiku[19:09:12] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[19:09:12] <Dane__> that could be it then[19:10:04] *** luko has quit IRC[19:10:37] <Dane__> diver_ There's a /boot/home/config/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev folder -- could that be the location where the link should go?[19:11:57] <humdinner> Dane__: I think /boot/home/config/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev/audio[19:12:10] <Dane__> ah, I'll need to create a subfolder[19:12:19] <humdinner> FWIW, a cmedia driver is in Haiku's trunk, but not in the image.[19:12:22] <humdinner> Dunno why...[19:12:30] <humdinner> It does at leat compile[19:13:24] <Dane__> reset media prefs, no change[19:13:25] *** luko has joined #haiku[19:13:33] <Dane__> Wonder if a reboot will be necessary[19:13:38] *** luko has quit IRC[19:13:50] <humdinner> comparing to /boot/system/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev/audio all other drivers seem to be linked in another subfolder "hmulti"[19:14:10] <Dane__> humdinner Is that beneath the audio folder?[19:14:16] <humdinner> See if the driver is used, just as with your rtl before[19:14:21] <humdinner> yes.[19:14:31] <humdinner> listimage | grep cmedia[19:14:38] <diver_> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/CMedia-driver[19:14:53] <Dane__> /> listimage | grep cmedia[19:14:54] <Dane__> TEAM 578 (/bin/grep cmedia):[19:14:54] <Dane__> />[19:15:17] <humdinner> so no.[19:15:24] <humdinner> bad news from diver_...[19:15:31] <Dane__> shows up in listdev[19:15:55] *** luko has joined #haiku[19:16:02] <diver_> http://dev.haiku-os.org/search?q=C-Media[19:16:25] <Dane__> reading[19:16:30] <humdinner> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/CMedia-driver,2 says it might work with OSS.[19:17:05] <Dane__> yeah looks like it's sketchy at best[19:17:10] <Dane__> OSS scares me :-)[19:17:23] * Dane__ is afraid he'll really mess up his system if he installs OSS[19:17:32] <Dane__> have read horror stories[19:17:37] <Dane__> Maybe they're the exception?[19:17:47] *** abhiin1947 has joined #haiku[19:18:04] <Dane__> Well, meanwhile, I'll shut down and try a SB LIve[19:18:08] <Dane__> back shortly[19:18:11] <humdinner> I never had to use OSS[19:18:27] <Dane__> I tried once and had a hard time coming back from it[19:18:30] <Dane__> back in a bit[19:18:30] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[19:23:18] *** grafZeppelin has joined #haiku[19:24:37] *** Barrett has quit IRC[19:26:51] *** jua_ has quit IRC[19:28:11] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[19:28:17] *** Megaf has quit IRC[19:31:37] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[19:31:42] *** Dane_ is now known as Dane__[19:32:28] <grafZeppelin> Does anybody ever actually do anything here?[19:32:30] <Dane__> Well that's an interesting twist. An SB Live card in the PCI slot causes the OS to never finish booting...just a grey screen and mouse pointer! Not a fluke...tried two different cards. Very strange[19:32:49] <grafZeppelin> good heavens![19:32:56] <Dane__> grafZeppelin Mostly we sit and take potshots at busy people[19:33:06] <grafZeppelin> like me then[19:33:06] <humdinner> grafZeppelin: look into the log.[19:33:17] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[19:33:44] <humdinner> Dane__: Guess you'd have to try getting the syslog for mor einfo...[19:34:35] <Dane__> humdinner join me in neonplasma for a moment?[19:40:23] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[19:41:05] *** humdinner has quit IRC[19:42:01] *** tqh has joined #haiku[19:45:48] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[19:48:30] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[19:54:59] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[20:07:18] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[20:13:31] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[20:25:33] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[20:25:44] *** Dane_ is now known as Dane__[20:26:12] <Dane__> Is there a way to convert an address book from, say, a Mac, into People files for Haiku? Or does Haiku still take the People files approach?[20:27:17] <Skipp_OSX> Dane__, good question, idk[20:27:23] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[20:27:40] <Skipp_OSX> I vaguely remember a GSOC project to add VCard support to People[20:28:00] <Dane__> And, importantly, does Mail look at people files for auto-completing e-mail addresses when composing e-mails?[20:28:32] <Skipp_OSX> Dane__, um... probably looks at the FS attributes for the mail message[20:32:11] *** petterhj has quit IRC[20:32:55] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[20:44:37] <mmu_man> Caya doesn't use people files, but there is still People and Mail using them[20:44:54] <mmu_man> and yes there are vcard to people files converter on bebits IIRC[20:47:09] <Premislaus> http://www.desura.com - I wonder whether they someday will be for Haiku.[20:48:25] <Premislaus> There are some cool games.[20:51:28] *** abhiin1947 has quit IRC[20:53:27] <mmu_man> ask them[20:53:36] <mmu_man> :p[20:53:43] <mmu_man> better have working OpenGL first[20:54:33] *** Barrett has quit IRC[20:59:00] <Premislaus> mmu_man: Probably after beta will be more cool things in Haiku. First must be stable API, package management, hardware acceleration, etc.[21:06:31] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[21:08:16] *** luko has quit IRC[21:09:06] <Skipp_OSX> Premislaus, I don't know if hardware accel will make it in by beta[21:09:25] <Skipp_OSX> stable API and PM are required though[21:09:31] <Skipp_OSX> AFAIK[21:11:46] <Premislaus> Skipp_OSX: Why? And when beta come out that will not have time? :>[21:12:01] <Premislaus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6z2zfoi16g&feature=related xD[21:12:53] <Skipp_OSX> Premislaus, you gotta cutoff somewhere...[21:13:50] *** shevy has left #haiku[21:13:54] <Skipp_OSX> hardware accel is a big task and is in it's infancy right now, in order for it to make it into beta a lot of work would need to be done in a relatively short time.[21:14:18] <Skipp_OSX> package management, wifi support, mode setting drivers, stable ABI are all big tasks already.[21:14:19] <Premislaus> I understand.[21:14:36] <Skipp_OSX> in various stages of completion[21:15:07] <jua_> out of those I personally find packages and stable ABI most important[21:15:10] <Skipp_OSX> If 3d accell were ready to go by then, fine, but if not it shouldn't hold up the release.[21:16:30] <Skipp_OSX> well, stable ABI is a must, since we won't be able to make binary incompatible changes to the new stuff we've added come R1 until R2.[21:17:08] <Skipp_OSX> and package management, at least for the system is a must IMO, so that you can update to R1.1 R1.2 etc.[21:17:40] <Skipp_OSX> not being able to update a running system without reinstalling is not going to fly forever.[21:18:40] <Skipp_OSX> as far as a more general package management solution for apps, I think it can wait if need be, although it would be nice to have.[21:23:59] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[21:47:16] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega|away[21:52:03] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[21:52:13] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[21:52:27] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[21:53:58] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[21:54:44] *** Barrett has quit IRC[21:55:04] *** Guest91141 is now known as volci[21:56:26] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[21:59:13] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[21:59:31] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[22:06:52] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[22:07:15] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[22:10:35] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[22:19:19] *** RoySpalding has joined #haiku[22:22:53] *** RoySpalding is now known as AdolF_H[22:27:39] *** AdolF_H has quit IRC[22:28:02] *** RoySpalding has joined #haiku[22:28:35] *** RoySpalding is now known as AdolF_HisteR[22:33:52] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:36:34] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[22:37:38] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[22:38:12] *** dimonov has quit IRC[22:38:40] *** dimonov has joined #haiku[22:40:53] *** tqh has joined #haiku[22:42:18] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[22:44:32] *** luko has joined #haiku[22:44:48] <Anarchos> i know how to build haiku, but how to run all the tests in src/tests ?[22:49:17] *** AdolF_HisteR has quit IRC[22:50:06] *** luko has quit IRC[22:51:05] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[22:52:09] *** synchris has quit IRC[22:52:19] *** luko has joined #haiku[22:59:24] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[23:00:33] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[23:03:51] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[23:04:13] *** PasNox has quit IRC[23:06:25] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[23:11:30] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[23:13:17] *** adb has joined #haiku[23:14:20] *** fhein has quit IRC[23:16:51] *** kcj has joined #haiku[23:23:26] *** synchris has joined #haiku[23:23:38] *** luko has quit IRC[23:31:34] *** petterhj has quit IRC[23:36:51] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[23:37:35] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:42:56] *** Forca has quit IRC[23:45:06] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[23:47:34] *** volci has quit IRC