April 7, 2012 
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April 7, 2012 [00:03:30] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has joined #haiku[00:05:18] *** luroh has joined #haiku[00:10:22] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[00:20:30] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has quit IRC[00:25:35] <SMCollins> Cian: I think most of those are available as optional packages iir[00:25:36] <SMCollins> iirc[00:28:30] <Cian> SMCollins those I listed there are all in the default install[00:28:52] <Cian> a small number of deps are available as optional packages and another small number of current ones are on haikuports. Ideally I'll update all of those[00:29:08] <SMCollins> I looked at the vlc port a while ago, way over my head, and there was a issue with a missing kernel signal that ingo implemented last year so it might work now[00:29:12] * mmu_man just updated his gopher branch for NetSurf[00:30:01] * SMCollins ponder the amazingly deep nostalgic love mmu_man has for netsurf[00:30:15] <Cian> the advantage here is that I "know" how to build VLC, albeit from many years ago[00:30:19] <Cian> gives me a tiny headstart[00:30:39] <SMCollins> I'd love a modern vlc port, would be nice to have libblueray etc[00:31:34] <Cian> libbluray builds. libaacs currently doesn't[00:31:53] <SMCollins> does libbluray decode yet ?[00:32:29] <Cian> I've not tested that yet. I do have a BD-RE drive in this machine[00:32:42] <SMCollins> I meant for any platform[00:32:57] <SMCollins> will libbluray decode a blueray[00:33:06] <SMCollins> like say transformers dark of the moon[00:33:28] <Cian> it needs libaacs to crack it[00:33:39] <SMCollins> libaacs is the advanaced content lib isn't it ?[00:33:42] <Cian> libaacs + keys, but the keys are easily 'found'...[00:33:45] <Cian> encryption lib[00:34:13] <SMCollins> I was wondering[00:34:20] <SMCollins> the whole drm thing just pisses me off[00:34:34] <SMCollins> its my media, I bought it, I should be able to view it anyway I please[00:35:03] <mmu_man> SMCollins: Videolan just asked the HADOPI if they are allowed to break the DRM :D[00:35:15] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[00:35:33] <SMCollins> heres my take on it, better to beg forgiveness then ask permission for most things in life[00:36:18] <SMCollins> If I had the crack, I'd find a way to simultaneously dump it to ever server in the world in one shot[00:36:25] <SMCollins> to bad, its in the public commons[00:37:57] *** VNA9216 has quit IRC[00:39:51] <Cian> well, that happened with the master key, more or less[00:41:23] <SMCollins> I'm just saying, copyright protect the lsicnse of material owenrship and distrobution, it has no business effecting the playback mechanism, thats just vendor lock in which is BS[00:43:41] <Cian> same shit different era - this happened with CSS also[00:43:46] <Cian> it was just comically easy to break[00:45:36] <mmu_man> it's merely to see how they will cope with clueless laws[00:45:52] <mmu_man> DADVSI gives legal protection over DRM[00:46:09] <mmu_man> yet it also makes it an obligation to provide interop[00:46:22] <mmu_man> while the very goal of DRM is to avoid interop :D[00:48:55] <SMCollins> get a phone, place it in the sudan[00:48:58] <SMCollins> hook a modem to it[00:49:02] <SMCollins> call it a server[00:49:06] <SMCollins> problem solved[00:52:47] <Cian> working folder for code+deps is nearly a gigabyte already. and yet VLC binaries are probably still 30MB max[00:53:32] <SMCollins> thats rediculous[00:54:35] *** DaaT has quit IRC[00:55:40] <SMCollins> I don't think the haiku source code repo is that big is it ?[00:57:12] <Cian> well, after building it would be[00:57:27] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[00:58:10] <SMCollins> nightlys are like 500mb alpha are 750mb[00:58:26] <SMCollins> I think the code repo i around 1gb iirc[00:59:47] *** nielx has quit IRC[01:01:24] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[01:03:37] <HAIKU-Buildbot_> build #306 of x86-FreeBSD-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-FreeBSD-host/builds/306[01:06:37] *** Huggy has quit IRC[01:13:55] *** budrys has left #haiku[01:14:13] <Cian> speex just does not want to build for me[01:20:27] *** luko has joined #haiku[01:21:32] *** mpartipilo has quit IRC[01:31:00] <CIA-37> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev43964 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=2ce9bab : (log message trimmed)[01:31:01] <CIA-37> Fisher Price Deskbar icon support[01:31:01] <CIA-37> Implements the feature described in #7132[01:31:01] <CIA-37> Also fixes #2387 (menu items too big in horizontal mode when font size > 12)[01:31:01] <CIA-37> Adds a slider to Deskbar preferences which allows you to resize your Deskbar[01:31:01] <CIA-37> team icons from 16x16 to 96x96. The default is 16x16. This works both in vertical[01:31:02] <CIA-37> and horizontal mode.[01:41:48] *** luko has quit IRC[01:44:13] *** txtsd has quit IRC[01:47:30] *** Barrettt__ has joined #haiku[02:02:08] <CIA-37> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev43965 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=3ea5972 : Style fix. Take out 3 sets of unneeded curly braces. [2 commits][02:16:07] *** alexixor_ has joined #haiku[02:16:39] *** alexixor has quit IRC[02:17:44] *** Barrettt__ has quit IRC[02:18:39] *** Cian has quit IRC[02:21:27] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[02:22:03] *** juaa_ has quit IRC[02:25:23] *** synchris has quit IRC[02:25:44] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega|away[02:26:15] *** falktx__ has joined #haiku[02:26:27] *** falktx_ has quit IRC[02:28:02] *** DaaT has quit IRC[02:39:45] *** alexixor_ has quit IRC[02:41:28] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[02:41:42] *** Luko has joined #haiku[02:43:53] *** bjw has quit IRC[02:44:15] *** bjw has joined #haiku[02:44:52] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[02:50:03] *** Luko18 has joined #haiku[02:50:03] *** Luko has quit IRC[02:54:43] *** falktx has joined #haiku[02:54:48] *** falktx__ has quit IRC[02:55:11] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[03:13:15] <CIA-37> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev43966 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=7d0f6bd : Merge branch 'glife' [6 commits][03:15:09] *** Luko18 has quit IRC[03:15:45] *** BlankBruno has joined #haiku[03:23:47] *** BlankBruno has left #haiku[03:29:06] *** dr_evil_ has joined #haiku[03:32:33] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[03:33:05] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[03:54:53] *** Luko has joined #haiku[03:57:28] *** Luko has quit IRC[04:09:36] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[04:18:48] *** markos_ has quit IRC[04:31:04] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:48:00] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[05:10:36] *** kag_anil has joined #haiku[05:11:27] <kag_anil> luroh: thanks a ton for the tar.xz files...[05:23:30] *** SMCollins1 has joined #haiku[05:24:53] <SMCollins1> Skipp_OSX: fisher price Icon support, lol[05:25:13] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins: I think DeadYak called it that, I like it.[05:25:23] <SMCollins1> Its fucking hilarious[05:25:43] <SMCollins1> thats how I feel when I use windows 7 and allot of the new touchscreen iphones and andriods[05:26:08] *** falktx has quit IRC[05:26:15] * SMCollins1 in three year old voie, can I touch the button[05:26:37] <Skipp_OSX> You should try it out, works pretty well[05:26:55] <Skipp_OSX> I've been working on that feature for over a year, lots of tweaking to make it just right[05:27:41] <SMCollins1> I plan to do a build here in the next hour or two, once I figure out how to reset to the master[05:28:07] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins: meaning you have made local commits or not?[05:28:26] <SMCollins1> no local commits, just bisecting to find the problem with radeon hd[05:28:37] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins: but you did that on master branch?[05:28:40] <SMCollins1> I think my repo is at 43503 right now[05:28:45] <SMCollins1> I belive so yes[05:28:51] <SMCollins1> I just did git revert hrev[05:28:59] <SMCollins1> hrevxxxxx[05:29:07] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins: well, if you don't care about your changes you can do a 'git reset --hard HEAD'[05:29:13] <SMCollins1> thats it[05:29:35] <Skipp_OSX> if you do care, I would git stash, create a new branch and git stash pop to get them back[05:30:01] <SMCollins1> nah, I don't care[05:30:07] <SMCollins1> Its just a git clone anyways[05:30:37] <SMCollins1> I just did git reset master, according to a quick google thats how I should be reseting to the git repo that Haiku is on[05:30:49] <Skipp_OSX> just 'git reset --hard HEAD' then, that will take you to where you started[05:31:16] <SMCollins1> when I do that is states I am at hrev43503[05:31:30] <Skipp_OSX> sure, if that is where you started[05:31:49] <SMCollins1> I need to tell it to bring the repo to the current head master[05:32:05] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins: you mean that you want to go to the latest[05:32:11] <SMCollins1> if I am to try the "Fishe Prices Icons"[05:32:31] <SMCollins1> yes, to the latest and to make sure it goes back to being that way[05:32:37] <Skipp_OSX> okay, well, after you've gotten back to hreve43503, then just do a git pull origin master"[05:33:21] <Skipp_OSX> A piece of advice though, don't make changes in the master branch, create a new branch and work there, that way you can always just switch back to master to get back[05:33:28] <SMCollins1> The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by merge:[05:33:39] <SMCollins1> I just follow along , I don;t do any work at all right now[05:33:44] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins1: see, I thought you said you didn't have local changes...[05:33:46] <Skipp_OSX> don't merge[05:33:48] <SMCollins1> I just build and test[05:33:51] <Skipp_OSX> git merge abort[05:34:03] <Skipp_OSX> then git reset --hard HEAD[05:34:27] <SMCollins1> HEAD is now at d3e3195 Small unknown table minor check, no real functional change <--- hrev43503[05:34:44] <SMCollins1> the repo is at 43966[05:34:46] <Skipp_OSX> ok, now do a git status to see what files are changed[05:35:07] <SMCollins1> allot of them[05:35:14] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins: yes, HEAD is hreve43503 in your case[05:35:31] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins1: do a `git cleanup` and if it bitches `git cleanup -f `[05:35:34] <SMCollins1> yes, I'd like to make HEAd the current head and to make it autoupdate like it did before[05:35:53] <Skipp_OSX> we're getting there, first you need to cleanup the mess you've made[05:36:01] <SMCollins1> ~/haiku> git cleanup[05:36:01] <SMCollins1> git: 'cleanup' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.[05:36:11] <Skipp_OSX> it might be just `git clean`[05:36:29] <SMCollins1> git clean[05:37:00] <Skipp_OSX> yes :)[05:37:04] <SMCollins1> ok , its clean now, btw its git clean, not cleanup and you have to use the -f option, or it complains[05:37:33] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins: well, it may or may not complain depending on if your changes are recoverable[05:37:41] <SMCollins1> akkk[05:37:43] <Skipp_OSX> anyway, so now git status to see the changes[05:37:58] <Skipp_OSX> you should have no changed files[05:38:04] <SMCollins1> I have changed files[05:38:13] <Skipp_OSX> hmmmm[05:38:18] <SMCollins1> probobaly from abusing revert since bisect was a royal pain in the ass[05:38:35] <Skipp_OSX> yeah maybe, are the files under the "untracked" list?[05:38:45] <SMCollins1> yes untracked[05:38:52] <Skipp_OSX> oh okay, just delete them[05:38:56] <SMCollins1> how ?[05:39:18] <Skipp_OSX> one by one I guess, how many files are we talking about?[05:39:27] <SMCollins1> about 30 or 40[05:39:57] <Skipp_OSX> try a git clean -f -X[05:40:17] <Skipp_OSX> to remove ignore files[05:40:47] <SMCollins1> no, these files seem persistent[05:40:59] <Skipp_OSX> or git clean -f -d for directories[05:41:15] <Skipp_OSX> some sort of git clean will get rid of those untracked files[05:41:20] <SMCollins1> that seemed to work[05:41:30] <Skipp_OSX> okay, so nothing in git status now right?[05:41:41] <SMCollins1> # On branch master # Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 753 commits, and can be fast-forwarded. #[05:41:55] <Skipp_OSX> yeah, there you go, now git pull origin master[05:41:58] <SMCollins1> git clean -f -d did the trick[05:42:10] <Skipp_OSX> that will fast forward you[05:42:19] <SMCollins1> wow, this seems overly complex[05:42:33] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins1: well, like I said, you did a bad thing, so you had to clean up[05:42:46] <Skipp_OSX> you confused git[05:42:47] <SMCollins1> yes, but I found what I was looking for, so it was worth it[05:43:03] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins1: sure but you could have done it in a branch to avoid this mess[05:43:23] <SMCollins1> I suppose your correct, how hard is branching ?[05:43:32] <Skipp_OSX> git checkout -b branchname[05:43:46] <SMCollins1> wow, thats not to bad[05:44:05] <Skipp_OSX> yeah, that is the whole point, of course if you start actually committing you'll have to learn about rebasing[05:44:50] <SMCollins1> we are a long way from me commiting anything[05:45:08] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins1: well, I just mean locally[05:45:14] <SMCollins1> yeah[05:45:42] <SMCollins1> I am still struggling with getting my head around the damn syntax, its seems to just get jumbled up[05:46:27] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins1: well, okay then. so next time you do something like this, do it in a branch, then when you are done, git stash, to stash your changes, git checkout master, then you can git branch -D branchname to delete the local branch[05:46:38] <SMCollins1> gotcha[05:47:14] <Skipp_OSX> It's complicated and difficult, but powerful[05:47:29] <SMCollins1> I prefer top fuel dragster versus porsches[05:47:58] <Skipp_OSX> I'm not going to lie, it is much more difficult to learn than say svn, but once you learn it you won't want to go back.[05:48:29] <geist> i second that[05:48:31] <Skipp_OSX> I used svn a long long time before switching to git, and svn is a baby toy[05:48:43] <geist> exactly. everything else seems like kiddie stuff[05:48:50] <SMCollins1> I just learned svn, then you guys changed to git, and then omg the jargon, its like worse then anything in auto racing[05:49:08] <geist> it's just different. some of the concepts dont line up[05:49:12] <Skipp_OSX> I switched to git before Haiku did :)[05:49:14] <SMCollins1> so its the SVN FisherPrice Edition ?[05:49:26] <Skipp_OSX> well, SVN is git FisherPrice[05:49:28] <geist> revert for example is nothing at all like svn's[05:49:41] <geist> right. git is crazy powerful[05:49:51] <Skipp_OSX> revert means a different thing on git[05:49:57] <geist> right, and add, and some others[05:50:00] <SMCollins1> I am learning this today[05:50:06] <geist> and branching is free and something you do all the time, etc[05:50:12] <Skipp_OSX> geist: thanks for introducing me to git rebase -i although it got me into trouble[05:50:14] <geist> there are different strategies to solve things[05:50:23] <geist> yes, rebase -i is the shit[05:50:42] <Skipp_OSX> geist: I have to learn to rebase interactively into more commits...[05:50:49] <SMCollins1> has anyone seen and motion to use opencl with a compiler to actually build code ?[05:50:54] <geist> Skipp_OSX: what do you mean?[05:50:55] <SMCollins1> and= any[05:51:03] <geist> you mean split commits?[05:51:18] <geist> you should get familiar with 'git add -p'[05:51:25] <geist> crazy powerful[05:51:27] <SMCollins1> I'd be curious to see if you could build big projects faster with a opencl gpgpu/cpu implementation[05:51:36] <Skipp_OSX> geist: meaning I git rebase -i a whole bunch of commits into just 1 and pushed it, and I got yelled at for reminding them of the SVN days[05:51:50] <Skipp_OSX> with a huge commit with 10,000 changes[05:51:53] <geist> oh, well that's not rebases fault[05:51:55] <geist> dont do that[05:52:03] <Skipp_OSX> geist: yeah, no, it is not[05:52:08] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[05:52:31] <geist> but what you can do is have a pile of 'WIP' or 'DEBUG - remove this later' changes that you can flatten, rearrange, remove later[05:52:38] <geist> that's very handy. frees up the development process a lot[05:52:46] <Skipp_OSX> geist: see the problem is, I branched, made changes, branched again and reverted half of them, and when I wanted to go back to master I had a mess[05:53:15] <geist> revert doesn't do what you think[05:53:23] <SMCollins1> Skipp_OSX: the Fisher Price edition deskbar, will that be in the build I am making now ?[05:53:42] <geist> if you're on your own branch, revert is easy to wipe out a debugging change temporarily, but you should be able to rebase -i and nuke the original change if you want it reverted[05:53:45] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins: if it is >= hrev43964 then yes[05:53:50] <geist> since revert just applies a reverse change[05:53:51] <SMCollins1> even my wife thought it was funny once I explained what it was, she was like WTF is so funny[05:54:35] <Skipp_OSX> geist: right, although git could have been a little more helpful to SVN people by switching revert and reset...[05:54:55] <geist> why? they dont mean the same thing at all[05:55:08] <Skipp_OSX> I guess you are right[05:55:08] <geist> reset has no equivalent on svn[05:55:26] <Skipp_OSX> I mean an equivalent of 'svn revert'[05:55:48] <geist> the closest to that is 'git clean' or 'git reset --hard'[05:56:21] <Skipp_OSX> geist: yeah, I guess there is no real equivalent[05:56:22] <geist> so one useage model of reset is equivalent to svn revert, but it has much more powerful uses[05:56:25] <SMCollins1> I think some of the problem with git, is that some of the choice of terminology, is a bit ambigous[05:56:35] <SMCollins1> at least I find it to be so[05:56:52] <geist> i guess, i've been using it exclusively for the last few years so i honestly dont remember what's wonky about it[05:57:09] <Skipp_OSX> geist: there are a few thing, fetch vs pull for instance[05:57:26] <Skipp_OSX> I mean, if you know the difference, great, but if you are starting out the terms don't help you[05:57:29] <geist> pull is a wrapper around fetch + some other ops[05:57:49] <geist> what i generally dislike are the handier wrapper like commands that try to do things for you[05:57:53] <Skipp_OSX> and you pull a single branch, but you push them all, that is a bit confusing[05:57:56] <geist> when most of them are just wrappers around more basic things[05:58:13] <geist> no, that's not true. you can pull an entire repo[05:58:21] <geist> it just then tries to do something automatic to the local branch[05:58:25] <geist> which i actually almostn ever use[05:58:32] <Skipp_OSX> geist: yeah but not by just 'git pull'[05:58:41] <geist> sure it does. it fetches the entire repo[05:58:57] <Skipp_OSX> geist: and then merges only onto the current branch[05:59:14] <geist> oh you want it to merge onto the other, non checked out local branches?[05:59:20] <geist> that'd be hard, since the files aren't mapped[05:59:42] <Skipp_OSX> geist: no, but I think push should just push the branch you are on to be the opposite conceptually from pull[05:59:52] <geist> anyay, like i said i dislike that. i never use git pull unless it's a pure, just track the remote thing[05:59:53] <Skipp_OSX> geist: you could do a git push -a to push all branches[06:00:08] <geist> fair enough. i rarely ever do a naked git push[06:00:19] <geist> i almost always git push exactly what i'm working on[06:00:27] <geist> or i at least 'git push -n' to see what it's going to do[06:00:36] <SMCollins1> I think the ideas are great, its the communication of them thats confusing[06:00:46] <Skipp_OSX> geist: I understand what is happening so it isn't a big deal for me, but I could see how it could be confusing for some.[06:00:53] <geist> basically git pull and default git push work only int he simple case, and their defaults are too dangerous for larger projects[06:00:56] <SMCollins1> was git written, created by a non english speaker by chance ?[06:00:56] <geist> which i dislike[06:01:21] <geist> probably[06:01:23] <Skipp_OSX> geist: yes, git pull can be bad, I learned that the hard way[06:01:37] <SMCollins1> its got all the hallmarks of "all your base are belong to us"[06:01:39] <geist> yep. i have a macro 'gru' that does 'git remote update --prune'[06:01:51] <geist> and then based on that i decide what to do with the local branch. should i rebase? should i merge? etc[06:01:59] <Skipp_OSX> God, I don't know that[06:02:04] <Skipp_OSX> git remote update --prune ?[06:02:25] <SMCollins1> wouldn't a better choice be trim ?[06:02:30] <geist> it fetchs all of the remotes, synchronizes your local view of the remotes and removes any branches that were delted there[06:03:02] <geist> 'git remote update' is basically a synonym for 'for all repos: git fetch $repo'[06:03:16] <Skipp_OSX> ahh okay[06:03:29] <geist> here's a piece of educational trick: export GIT_TRACE=1[06:03:34] <Skipp_OSX> I usually fetch 1 at a time[06:03:34] <geist> it'll show you the internal commands it's running[06:03:44] <SMCollins1> says started by linus torvalds, a non native english speaker iirc, which would make sense, its got that finish/eastern eurpean english to it[06:03:56] <Skipp_OSX> then again, I only have 2 remotes, so it's not so bad[06:04:00] <geist> yah[06:04:22] <SMCollins1> hows bout a beer eh ?[06:04:23] <geist> anyway, off to hack a bit. i'm going to try to implement Notch's dcpu-16 in verilog this weekend[06:04:26] <SMCollins1> if your from canada[06:04:27] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins: Linus speaks better English than me no matter what that says :)[06:04:50] <Skipp_OSX> geist: okay, have fun, I am remote update --pruning here[06:05:02] <SMCollins1> he speaks well, but his construction of sentences has that flavor to it, its not bad if you work with allot of eastern europeans[06:05:07] <Skipp_OSX> just wanted to say thanks for the interactive rebase thing[06:05:26] <SMCollins1> take care geist, stay around[06:05:42] <Skipp_OSX> shoot...[06:05:54] <Skipp_OSX> geist: is there a version of that without tags?[06:06:07] <geist> dunno, good question[06:06:18] <geist> does the haiku repo still have a shitton of tags?[06:06:28] <Skipp_OSX> geist: yes, a shit ton[06:06:40] <geist> yeah, that drives me nuts[06:06:40] <Skipp_OSX> I always do git fetch --no-tags origin[06:06:42] <SMCollins1> haiku likes it tags iirc[06:06:50] <Skipp_OSX> geist: same here[06:06:57] *** unthdarr has quit IRC[06:07:20] <Skipp_OSX> geist: well, so much for git remote --prune'ing :)[06:07:38] <geist> there's a git-config option[06:07:43] <geist> git help config[06:07:49] <geist> and search for --no-tags[06:08:01] <geist> seems that ou can essentially hard disable tags on a 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NULL in this[12:22:47] <CIA-37> instance is correctly converted to 0 since it is illegal to assign[12:22:47] <CIA-37> ((void*)0) to a pointer to a member function. 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If i wanted to use qt, i would have linux... This is unserious proposal. R2 will be released, probably for 10 years.[15:51:39] <Premislaus> Probably will fork, with Haiku API.[15:51:42] <PulkoMandy> the project is only about evaluating Qt, and see if it could fit[15:52:04] <PulkoMandy> I think it will not do the work, but, we can stil ltry to make sure[15:52:31] <PulkoMandy> anyway, we're going to keep running with the BeAPI for some time[15:54:30] *** BGA_ has joined #haiku[15:55:10] <Premislaus> As for attracting developers?[15:56:32] *** BGA_ has quit IRC[15:58:15] <CIA-37> haiku.master: bonefish * hrev43968 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=96944cb : (log message trimmed)[15:58:15] <CIA-37> Fix #4125: NULL device is translated to '//'[15:58:15] <CIA-37> The problem appeared to be on the request creating side (i.e. in the[15:58:15] <CIA-37> kernel add-on) which did not support NULL pointers properly.[15:58:15] <CIA-37> Relocation of addresses in request when it is received translates[15:58:15] <CIA-37> offset = 0, size = 0 to pointer NULL so that no change in that part[15:58:16] <CIA-37> of code was required.[15:59:18] <Premislaus> What will be different? Another kernel?[15:59:55] <Premislaus> With what QT is better than BeAPI?[16:01:51] <Premislaus> Linux distribution with Haiku kernel, instead of Linux, or FreeBSD.[16:05:25] <Premislaus> The main argument for Haiku, is a stable API. R1 = gcc2 and gcc4 api, R2 = gcc2, gcc4 and QT...[16:17:00] *** abhiin1947 has quit IRC[16:18:29] *** abhiin1947 has joined #haiku[16:18:39] *** BGA has joined #haiku[16:18:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[16:18:57] *** BGA has left #haiku[16:22:59] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[16:27:52] *** BGA has joined #haiku[16:27:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[16:28:45] *** Premislaus_ has joined #haiku[16:30:40] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[16:31:47] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[16:33:37] *** Premislaus_ has quit IRC[16:35:59] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[16:38:36] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[16:38:47] *** PasNox has quit IRC[16:39:46] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[16:39:48] <CIA-37> haiku.master: nielx * hrev43969 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=0c38373 : Update translations from Pootle[16:44:41] <Hubert_> Premislaus +1[16:44:45] *** alexixor_ has joined #haiku[16:45:21] *** alexixor has quit IRC[16:50:08] *** alexixor_ has quit IRC[16:51:50] *** yongcong has quit IRC[16:51:54] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[16:52:35] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[17:03:22] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[17:03:22] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[17:05:03] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[17:10:34] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[17:18:00] *** Colin_Finck has left #haiku[17:24:40] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[17:27:31] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[17:28:06] *** Xeon3D is now known as zz_Xeon3D[17:28:58] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[17:35:47] *** dak has joined #haiku[17:37:20] *** dcase has quit IRC[17:40:51] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[17:41:32] *** BGA has left #haiku[17:44:19] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[17:44:49] *** korli has quit IRC[17:49:30] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[17:51:30] *** Megaf has quit IRC[17:58:15] *** Luko has joined #haiku[18:19:06] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[18:21:36] *** KlapauciusHaiku has quit IRC[18:25:15] <abhiin1947> PulkoMandy, hi..this is abhinandan[18:27:09] <abhiin1947> PulkoMandy, I want to talk to you about using PonpokoDiff as a diff view[18:27:37] <mmadia> it's possible that he isn't at the keyboard.[18:28:46] <abhiin1947> np..i'll wait :)[18:29:41] <mmadia> you could also continue the discussion on the comments section, which would allow additional mentors the opportunity to participate.[18:30:40] <abhiin1947> mmadia, yeah..i have made a few comments...[18:31:02] *** zz_Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D[18:31:32] <abhiin1947> i wanted to talk to him in perticular because he made a comment suggesting me to use PonpokoDiff...i just wanted to know more about it[18:31:52] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[18:32:04] *** Xeon3D is now known as zz_Xeon3D[18:32:49] *** zz_Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D[18:39:08] <PulkoMandy> here I am[18:39:32] <PulkoMandy> well, I'm just trying to avoid you some useless work, so suggesting a possible solution[18:39:44] <PulkoMandy> if you think it is not suitable and everything needs to be redone, just do so[18:40:10] <abhiin1947> PulkoMandy, well..not everything...but certainly its a good base to begin with[18:40:30] <PulkoMandy> ok, that's fine[18:41:23] <abhiin1947> is there any software that does something similar in other operating systems?[18:41:49] <abhiin1947> i would like to have a look of their UI...might spark new ideas[18:41:52] <PulkoMandy> similar to ?[18:42:04] <abhiin1947> a patch reader/editor[18:42:09] <PulkoMandy> oh[18:42:30] <PulkoMandy> mh... I use vim in diff mode, but there's nothing much to say about it ui wise[18:42:43] <PulkoMandy> maybe meld ?[18:42:50] <PulkoMandy> (it's a gtk app)[18:43:14] <abhiin1947> i'll check it out[18:43:50] *** alexixor has quit IRC[18:43:56] <PulkoMandy> tortoiseGIT also has a diff view of course, and there's also winmerge[18:44:50] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[18:45:19] <abhiin1947> meld is good..[18:49:13] *** PasNox has quit IRC[18:49:14] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[18:49:26] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[18:50:09] *** nielx has quit IRC[18:53:11] <abhiin1947> thanks for the suggestions :)[19:04:39] *** nielx has joined #haiku[19:07:55] *** alexixor has quit IRC[19:08:36] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[19:11:14] <CIA-37> haiku.master: bonefish * hrev43970 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=3c1afd3 : (log message trimmed)[19:11:14] <CIA-37> Fix #8420: NetFS does not compile with DEBUG[19:11:14] <CIA-37> Debug macros like PRINT, ERROR, etc. are defined differently in NetFS[19:11:14] <CIA-37> and UserlandFS. In NetFS they use single parentheses while in UserlandFS[19:11:14] <CIA-37> double parentheses are required. Somehow this got mixed up in NetFS and[19:11:15] <CIA-37> there were both styles of calling these macros what caused the incorrect[19:11:16] <CIA-37> one to produce compilation errors.[19:20:03] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:21:09] *** nielx has quit IRC[19:34:10] *** falktx has quit IRC[19:37:57] *** Pinaraf has quit IRC[19:40:40] *** dcase has joined #haiku[19:51:56] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[19:53:01] *** Luko has quit IRC[19:53:44] *** Premislaus_ has joined #haiku[19:55:27] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[19:55:40] *** Premislaus_ is now known as Premislaus[19:56:10] *** bosii has joined #haiku[19:56:44] *** dak has quit IRC[19:58:47] *** PasNox has quit IRC[19:59:02] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[20:00:49] *** ubuntu-test has quit IRC[20:05:42] *** bosii has quit IRC[20:21:52] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[20:30:14] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[20:30:58] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[20:30:59] *** kag_anil has joined #haiku[20:36:24] *** Luko has joined #haiku[20:44:27] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[20:45:30] <kag_anil> what is the convention used for identifier's name in haiku??[20:45:54] *** Luko has quit IRC[20:46:33] *** bosii has joined #haiku[20:46:58] <kag_anil> for eg.. if i want to declare an identifier with the intention that it will store the value pointing whether some file can be opened or not.... should i use rd_only_device or rdOnlyDevice ??[20:47:57] <mmadia> http://www.haiku-os.org/development/coding-guidelines has a section on identifiers.[20:48:55] *** colin_ has joined #haiku[20:49:25] <kag_anil> yups it has... it says about the interCapsFormatting...[20:51:18] <kag_anil> but if in some existing code interCapsFormatting is not used... then i should follow the convention used there... is it true...??[20:52:07] <mmadia> if it's Haiku's own code, then ideally the file would be updated to conform to the guidelines. otherwise, follow what's used.[20:52:08] *** bosii has quit IRC[20:53:20] <kag_anil> kk..[20:54:00] <CIA-37> haiku.master: zooey * hrev43971 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=eb78be9 : (log message trimmed)[20:54:00] <CIA-37> Fix 8172: Time preflet being too slow to start. [2 commits][20:54:00] <CIA-37> * looking at the profile info kindly supplied by diver hinted at[20:54:00] <CIA-37> getting the timezones for each country individually being part of the[20:54:01] <CIA-37> problem, using BLocaleRoster::GetAvailableTimeZonesWithRegionInfo()[20:54:01] <CIA-37> helps considerably[20:54:02] <CIA-37> * further improve the situation by only requesting the localized display[21:02:41] <kag_anil> making diff with "git diff" is fine or i'll have to do something more than this...??[21:03:53] *** Luko has joined #haiku[21:05:00] <Skipp_OSX> kag_anil: git diff --no-prefix from the root dir to get a level 0 patch[21:06:46] <mmadia> though, git format-patch is ideal, as it'll give proper attribution.[21:07:02] <kag_anil> Skipp_OSX: does it not give the same solution as "git diff" ??[21:08:00] *** windie7 has joined #haiku[21:08:27] <kag_anil> for --> git format-patch how to set a revision, i mean i get a "bad default revision HEAD"[21:08:30] <Skipp_OSX> kag_anil: if you just do a `git diff` you have to apply with `patch -p1 < patchfile.diff`, --no-prefix allows you to patch with `patch -p0 < patchfile.diff`. It is not a big deal but just a little more standard[21:09:06] <Skipp_OSX> kag_anil: I'm not sure on the second question[21:09:25] <kag_anil> kk... i'm doing patch with git diff --no-prefix...[21:11:57] <kag_anil> but bonefish asked me to do via "git format-patch" & as i said i do not have a clone of haiku's src (thanks to luroh for giving me a static one)... i'm not able to use the git format-patch option?? may be i've not done correct setting for revision[21:12:29] <kag_anil> can any one tell me how can i set my revision Head for local directory(which i set as a git repository)[21:12:55] *** windie7 has left #haiku[21:13:11] *** Luko has quit IRC[21:13:47] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[21:15:37] <luroh> kag_anil: unless i'm mistaken, you should be able to extract the contents of those archives, cd into the directories and just 'git pull'[21:16:03] <luroh> they are snaphots of the full archives, git files and all[21:16:14] <kag_anil> kk...[21:26:19] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[21:26:37] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[21:28:05] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[21:35:57] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[21:41:02] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[21:41:47] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[21:44:39] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[21:46:28] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[21:52:49] *** abhiin1947 has quit IRC[22:01:52] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[22:06:53] <ddavid123> Hello[22:07:11] <mmadia> hi.[22:07:29] <ddavid123> How are you doing mmadia?[22:07:57] <mmadia> doing well. about to head out soon, too.[22:08:13] <ddavid123> ok, cya later![22:10:03] *** rouji has joined #haiku[22:12:08] <scgtrp> hmm, what do i have to hit repeatedly with a hammer to get ctrl-left/right to work in a ssh session?[22:12:17] <scgtrp> (ssh'd from linux into haiku, that is)[22:13:11] <PulkoMandy> likely some terminfo behaving wrong again ?[22:14:47] <scgtrp> possibly[22:14:59] <scgtrp> i just get ";5D" inserted[22:17:17] *** rouji has left #haiku[22:19:15] *** mmadia has quit IRC[22:21:55] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[22:22:58] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[22:28:41] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[22:29:26] <HaikuUser> http://www.revision-party.net/popup?s=mainhall360p[22:30:33] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[22:32:18] <Premislaus> HaikuUser: thanks, nice music[22:34:38] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[22:34:49] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[22:35:33] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[22:40:19] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[22:40:24] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:40:33] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[22:40:38] <Premislaus> what happened with mmlr contract?[22:46:35] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[22:47:33] <Skipp_OSX> Premislaus: it is suspended for now[22:47:49] *** arjen has quit IRC[22:49:40] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[22:52:09] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[22:52:31] <Premislaus> There will be new contracts in this year?[23:00:34] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:02:55] *** derpmcherp has joined #haiku[23:03:10] *** derpmcherp has quit IRC[23:08:36] <luroh> Premislaus: as usual, if there are attractive proposals from developers and haiku inc. has the money, i don't see why not[23:11:50] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[23:12:20] <Premislaus> WebPositive, TRIM command, networks, bug hunting[23:14:01] <Premislaus> hardware acceleration[23:14:30] <Premislaus> Package Management[23:14:31] <Premislaus> :)[23:23:09] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[23:39:11] *** PasNox has quit IRC[23:39:14] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[23:40:19] *** PasNox_ is now known as PasNox[23:45:25] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[23:46:45] *** synchris has quit IRC[23:49:28] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[23:49:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[23:50:13] *** sl_ has joined #haiku[23:53:29] *** sl__ has quit IRC[23:57:22] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC