April 6, 2012 
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April 6, 2012 [00:04:41] *** vooshy has quit IRC[00:08:29] *** Barrett has quit IRC[00:20:38] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[00:20:42] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[00:24:18] *** kcj has quit IRC[00:35:06] *** falktx_ has joined #haiku[00:35:15] *** falktx has quit IRC[00:35:24] *** VNA9216 has quit IRC[00:38:28] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:41:56] *** TimKack has quit IRC[00:52:37] *** dak has joined #haiku[00:54:22] *** b0nes65_ has joined #haiku[01:04:51] *** Huggy has quit IRC[01:07:34] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:07:34] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:08:52] *** b0nes65_ has quit IRC[01:09:02] *** arjen has quit IRC[01:11:03] *** b0nes65_ has joined #haiku[01:13:08] *** hapie has quit IRC[01:18:00] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[01:18:07] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[01:19:26] *** b0nes65_ has quit IRC[01:22:05] *** b0nes65 has joined #haiku[01:27:32] *** kcj has joined #haiku[01:31:05] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega|away[01:31:48] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[01:32:25] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[01:35:09] *** luko has quit IRC[01:37:01] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[01:39:55] *** mmadia has quit IRC[01:50:50] *** bjw has joined #haiku[01:50:50] *** bjw has joined #haiku[01:52:37] *** dak has quit IRC[02:03:10] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[02:07:03] *** SMCollins1 has quit IRC[02:17:12] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[02:18:36] *** luko has joined #haiku[02:21:13] *** bjw has quit IRC[02:21:14] *** jua_ has quit IRC[02:21:24] *** juaa_ has joined #haiku[02:28:10] *** alexixor_ has joined #haiku[02:28:39] *** alexixor has quit IRC[02:33:52] *** luko has quit IRC[02:34:17] *** luko has joined #haiku[02:39:42] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[02:40:38] *** luko has quit IRC[02:51:03] *** alexixor_ has quit IRC[02:56:55] *** kcj has quit IRC[02:58:22] *** unthdarr has joined #haiku[02:59:22] *** b0nes65 has quit IRC[02:59:31] *** falktx_ has quit IRC[03:02:20] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[03:07:32] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[03:11:46] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[03:16:36] *** alexixor has quit IRC[03:18:25] *** bjw has joined #haiku[03:18:26] *** bjw has joined #haiku[03:18:38] *** [Katisu] has quit IRC[03:20:00] *** oco2 has quit IRC[03:21:31] *** Per_Vers has joined #haiku[03:22:32] <Per_Vers> Hello. I was wondering... What is Haiku´s financial state?[03:23:45] <Per_Vers> Anyone alive out there?@[03:23:51] <SMCollins> they have some money, information can be found on the haiku inc website[03:24:58] <Per_Vers> Where, excactly?[03:28:47] <SMCollins> http://www.haiku-inc.org/[03:29:20] <SMCollins> I need help with a git bisect, the instructions I got don't make any sense or they do not work with haiku's git implementation[03:30:20] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[03:30:29] <Per_Vers> One contract developer is injured. How is he doing?[03:30:55] <SMCollins> I don't have corespondce so I don't know to be truthful[03:32:56] <Per_Vers> ok. I hope he is doing well. I was hurt myself a while ago. I know how bad injuries can be, suffering a year without a drivers licence.[03:33:54] <SMCollins> I spent 3 months in a sling after severly impacting/dislocating my shoulder[03:33:56] *** dr_evil_ has quit IRC[03:33:58] <SMCollins> it sucks[03:34:15] <Per_Vers> not nice at all.[03:34:39] <SMCollins> been 10 years and it still ain't right, needs surgery[03:34:45] <SMCollins> done 5 rounds of PT[03:34:58] <Per_Vers> are u US?[03:35:04] <SMCollins> US ?[03:35:10] <SMCollins> USA citizen ? yeah[03:35:18] <SMCollins> healthcare is great, if you can afford it[03:35:27] <Per_Vers> Hope you are insured.[03:35:38] <SMCollins> not for pre-existing[03:35:52] <Per_Vers> What you mean?[03:36:00] <SMCollins> and they denied the claim "sport related injury with no coverage" apprently BMX racing is a reason to dsipute the claim[03:36:44] <SMCollins> I'd take a voulentary single payer system, I am not to big on the government Mandating it[03:37:01] <Per_Vers> wow. Glad my country is socialist.[03:37:47] <Per_Vers> Norway. You´re never really screwed.[03:43:19] <Per_Vers> How many people work on Haiku?[03:44:51] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[03:48:55] <SMCollins> dialy or total ? depending on the prevailing winds lately anywhere from 5-30, mostly 5-7 or so seem to be busy as of late. Its in the home stretch[03:49:10] <SMCollins> what really needs to get moving is application developement.[03:50:04] <Per_Vers> yes. webpositive is not great. And the os itself reminds me of the nineties.[03:50:26] <SMCollins> its a OS, with a windowing system, its just flashy glitter[03:50:33] <SMCollins> what matters is the stuff under the hood[03:50:39] <SMCollins> the flashy part can come later[03:52:23] <SMCollins> someone is working on a compisiting gui however[03:52:37] <Per_Vers> no. It must be practical. It has serious flaws in drivers for example.[03:52:49] <SMCollins> umm, some drivers are buggy[03:52:56] <SMCollins> thats why its a alpha[03:53:13] <Per_Vers> If you have a modern computer, u can´t use Haiku.[03:53:17] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[03:53:20] <SMCollins> rofl[03:53:39] <SMCollins> I have a 6 month old hexacore machine with radeon_hd 5xxx series card[03:53:49] <SMCollins> works fine, with sata 3 drives etc[03:54:33] <SMCollins> actually, most of the generic drivers work pretty good, with the exception of edge case hardware, wireless is a sorespot, but its a sorespot on every non windows OS[03:54:38] <Per_Vers> Haiku recently got drivers for my networking card. Still does not support my sound card. It is a Asus G73sw laptop, less than a year old.[03:54:50] <SMCollins> what sound card do you have ?[03:55:07] <SMCollins> G73sw is a gaming laptop is it not ?[03:56:43] <Per_Vers> yes it is a hardcore gaming laptop.[03:56:46] <Per_Vers> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8227[03:57:01] <Per_Vers> This is the sound bug eport I made.[03:58:55] <SMCollins> thats a not so common audio chipset, why they chose nvidia audio vrs intel or the more common ich or hda supported chipsets ?[03:59:29] <SMCollins> in the bios, can you look in the advanced setting and see if the hda or ich codecs are avilable ?[04:00:57] <Per_Vers> I am 160 miles away from my dear G73 now. :-([04:01:50] <Per_Vers> No Haiku for me. I am on a Macbook Pro.[04:02:54] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[04:03:38] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[04:03:43] *** SMCollins2 has joined #haiku[04:03:54] <SMCollins2> damn app_server[04:04:10] <Per_Vers> What happened? You changed nick.[04:04:18] <SMCollins2> app server crashed had to reboot[04:04:44] <SMCollins2> I was just looking, thats some goofy 5.0 suround deal, I didn;t see a linux driver either[04:06:02] <Per_Vers> My G73 laptop is ridicoulous. I only bought it for its i7 processor and huge LCD. But Ubuntu runs fine on it.[04:06:39] <Per_Vers> When I´m not booting Haiku, it´s working on World Community Grid.[04:06:40] <SMCollins2> can you see which driver Linux is using to support the audio ?[04:07:07] <Per_Vers> Not now, I´m not home with my laptop.[04:08:10] <Skipp_OSX> any German speakers here?[04:08:42] <Per_Vers> I speak very little German.[04:09:03] <Skipp_OSX> Per_Vers: what is key as in computer keyboard key in German?[04:09:30] <Skipp_OSX> my best Google Translate guess is Taste[04:09:51] <Per_Vers> Can you rephrase that? I don´t understand.[04:10:14] *** orealis has quit IRC[04:10:53] <Per_Vers> Taste might be correct... Norwegian is related to German, and a keyboard key is "tast" in Norwegian.[04:11:24] <SMCollins2> no, that completely boggles me mind[04:12:50] <Skipp_OSX> It is just a hint for translators, maybe they'll just laugh at me[04:14:46] <SMCollins2> Skipp, so outside of the package manager is there any other big milestone for the beta or is that it ?[04:14:55] <SMCollins2> got cut short the other day[04:16:07] <Per_Vers> I tried an example "trykk en tast" (Press any key) from Norwegian to German. German translation is "Drücken Sie eine beliebige Taste"[04:16:23] *** jonongjs has joined #haiku[04:16:31] <SMCollins2> lanugages are strange things.[04:16:44] <Per_Vers> Key=Taste, I think.[04:16:49] <Skipp_OSX> Per_Vers: the specific example I'm reaching for is Ctrl key which I've naively translated to Strg taste[04:17:54] <Skipp_OSX> The Strg part I'm sure of, it is an abbreviation for Steuerung which means "Control" in german[04:18:05] <Skipp_OSX> as in Control key, not other kinds of control[04:18:36] <Per_Vers> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuerung_(Taste)[04:18:48] <Per_Vers> Steuring means Control.[04:26:34] <AlienSoldier> huh? 90's? and i guess the ipad wood library is not atari 2600 70's style?[04:27:56] <SMCollins2> lol, I had always looked at the apple wood look and said to myself, looks like the griswald mobile super green ultra huge station wagon simulated wood paneling[04:28:10] <SMCollins2> apple goes disco ![04:28:15] <SMCollins2> do the hustle[04:29:02] <AlienSoldier> some things are just fas, like brushed aluminium look and marbled texture MUI or RiscOS style[04:29:05] <SMCollins2> AlienSoldier: I dunno about you, but the 90's was a pretty good time, far better then the 2000's.[04:29:06] <AlienSoldier> *fad[04:29:16] <AlienSoldier> i agree[04:29:36] <SMCollins2> we had way more fun, thats for sure, but then I wasn't in my mid 30's then either[04:29:44] <SMCollins2> ahh, the fresh smell of nostalgia[04:29:52] *** jonongjs has quit IRC[04:30:06] <SMCollins2> definately this new group of up and comer, they seem like such sticks in the mud[04:30:22] <Skipp_OSX> I wonder if the - is canonical[04:30:47] <SMCollins2> canonical ?[04:30:51] <AlienSoldier> i think the computer "hobby" scene got corrupted. It's now full of divertion that lure any progress away[04:31:34] <SMCollins2> No, I think allot of the hobby scene was taken over by the pirates, who just want free shit. They don't care about quality or principal, The napster heads[04:32:08] <AlienSoldier> well, that existed a lot in the C64 amiga days, and it did not stop anything[04:32:14] <SMCollins2> They also seemingly have little regard for privacy, mines,yours,thier own. They blissfully sell their personal interests for free shit[04:32:23] <SMCollins2> what a useless lots of turds they are[04:33:03] <SMCollins2> and you can't employ them, any little bit of criticism and they literally break down in tears and stomp off[04:33:24] <SMCollins2> my number one problem as a business owner, finding qualified help[04:33:32] <SMCollins2> that would work for a living[04:33:46] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins2: as in, is that something that German people actually use, or is it acceptable but kind of awkward.[04:34:15] <Skipp_OSX> like, I wouldn't write Ctrl-key, I'd write Ctrl key[04:34:24] <SMCollins2> German people, globally awkward, its a whole nation of engineers and scientist, people who take pride in being smart[04:34:34] <SMCollins2> I would skip the dash, its fiarly "self evident"[04:34:37] <AlienSoldier> most animal turned pet can't be returned in the wild. Most human are liek that now, weak.[04:34:42] <AlienSoldier> *like[04:34:53] <SMCollins2> you could Ctrl&key[04:35:14] <SMCollins2> everyone understands the &[04:35:34] <SMCollins2> the dash could imply a tranfers like Ctrl->key[04:36:58] <Skipp_OSX> SMCollins2: why would anybody say that?[04:37:29] *** kcj has joined #haiku[04:38:52] <SMCollins2> your asking me what I think, don't expect it to make sense[04:38:56] <SMCollins2> hehe[04:45:52] <Per_Vers> v I must go. Have a nice day.[04:46:23] *** Per_Vers has left #haiku[04:57:16] *** jonongjs has joined #haiku[05:08:06] *** jonongjs has quit IRC[05:15:11] *** xplt has joined #haiku[05:43:09] *** orealis has joined #haiku[06:23:45] *** sty_ has joined #haiku[06:42:20] *** SMCollins2 has quit IRC[06:42:51] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[06:44:54] *** SMCollins2 has joined #haiku[06:57:39] <JuniperJaxx> hi[06:59:56] <Skipp_OSX> hello[07:00:46] <SMCollins2> Hi JuniperJaxx[07:00:50] <SMCollins2> hi skipp[07:00:58] <Xeon3D> yo all three of you :P[07:01:05] <SMCollins2> Hey Zeon3D[07:01:07] <JuniperJaxx> i think i might try the latest haiku nbuild[07:01:14] <JuniperJaxx> and see if iwreles sworks on my laptop[07:01:20] <Xeon3D> *Xeon3D[07:01:21] <SMCollins2> they've gotten much better the last few days[07:01:38] <JuniperJaxx> i really liked BeOS[07:01:39] <JuniperJaxx> lol[07:01:52] <SMCollins2> no, bunch of bfs corruption issues got sorted[07:01:52] <JuniperJaxx> i hope one day Haiku becomes as usable as linux[07:02:07] <SMCollins2> I think it already surpass's linux in many ways in regard to useability[07:02:19] <JuniperJaxx> i mean hardware support[07:02:32] <SMCollins2> that would be nice, what hardware of your is not supported ?[07:02:50] <JuniperJaxx> wireless but maybe not[07:03:05] <SMCollins2> don't know, saw some commit[07:03:19] <SMCollins2> I gotta test this video driver be back in a bit[07:03:22] *** SMCollins2 has quit IRC[07:03:32] <JuniperJaxx> i should buy a usb key and install haiku on it[07:03:39] <JuniperJaxx> surprisingly i do not have any usb keys[07:03:55] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[07:04:50] <JuniperJaxx> i could switch my work laptop to it[07:05:03] <JuniperJaxx> i just need nmap and the usb serial adapter to work[07:05:06] <JuniperJaxx> :P[07:06:52] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[07:07:05] <SMCollins> got it I know what hrev broke the 5xxx cards[07:07:52] <JuniperJaxx> i was goign to wipe my macbook but apparently i have 80 GB of stuff on here[07:07:53] <JuniperJaxx> haha[07:07:59] <JuniperJaxx> i need to buy a comptuer just for haiku[07:10:10] *** hamishm has quit IRC[07:10:30] <SMCollins> nah, buy a usb harddrive[07:11:18] *** tqh has joined #haiku[07:14:01] <SMCollins> was up tqh[07:14:16] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[07:17:03] *** bryan_w has quit IRC[07:21:02] <JuniperJaxx> SMCollins: hey is the upgrade path still install from a newer iso?[07:21:11] <JuniperJaxx> for existing installs[07:21:15] <SMCollins> Maybe[07:21:20] <SMCollins> how old ?[07:21:51] <JuniperJaxx> alpha 3[07:22:03] <SMCollins> I'd wipe the drive[07:22:19][07:23:35] <JuniperJaxx> ok[07:24:29] <SMCollins> if it was like, from feburary I'd have said role with it "f it didn't have b+tree errors"[07:24:37] <SMCollins> be back in a few[07:24:39] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[07:25:19] <JuniperJaxx> ok[07:31:19] *** SMCollinxyz has joined #haiku[07:32:16] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[07:33:46] *** SMCollinxyz has quit IRC[07:39:22] *** tqh has quit IRC[07:49:32] *** Xeon3D is now known as zz_Xeon3D[07:51:49] *** zz_Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D[07:59:11] <JuniperJaxx> well that sucks kernel panic[07:59:12] <JuniperJaxx> haha[08:00:06] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[08:03:17] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[08:04:57] <Skipp_OSX> :([08:06:27] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[08:08:41] <JuniperJaxx> it panics everytime i try to install to this usbkey[08:12:39] <diver_> JuniperJaxx: what's the error message?[08:13:03] <JuniperJaxx> not sure[08:13:10] <JuniperJaxx> i just switched back to alpha 3[08:13:14] *** abhiin1947 has joined #haiku[08:13:33] <abhiin1947> hi all[08:13:47] <JuniperJaxx> hi[08:13:49] <abhiin1947> i have made a small mockup for my proposal that i'm gonna submit[08:14:05] <abhiin1947> i would appreciate feedbacks[08:14:22] <abhiin1947> http://gitmockup.appspot.com/[08:14:36] <abhiin1947> to start right-click the haiku folder[08:15:00] <abhiin1947> btw, my proposal is to implement tortoiseGIT on haiku[08:15:16] <abhiin1947> so i thought it'll be cool if i tried something new[08:16:39] <abhiin1947> any comments?[08:18:14] *** Xeon3D is now known as zz_Xeon3D[08:19:02] *** yongcong has joined #haiku[08:22:29] *** zz_Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D[08:31:05] *** arjen has joined #haiku[08:31:15] *** Xeon3D is now known as zz_Xeon3D[08:31:38] *** zz_Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D[08:33:10] *** Xeon3D is now known as zz_Xeon3D[08:34:54] *** mpartipilo has joined #haiku[08:35:38] *** zz_Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D[08:39:37] *** Xeon3D is now known as zz_Xeon3D[08:41:24] *** [r4] has quit IRC[08:43:04] *** abhiin1947 has quit IRC[08:43:05] *** zz_Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D[08:46:23] <JuniperJaxx> well that sucks[08:46:27] <JuniperJaxx> haha[08:46:42] *** abhiin1947 has joined #haiku[08:46:54] <JuniperJaxx> this macbook will not boot recognize the Haiku usbkey as a bootable drive[08:48:05][08:48:11] <Skipp_OSX> it could be, idk[08:48:19] <Skipp_OSX> here it comes...[08:48:40] <CIA-37> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev43956 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=3cee15a : (log message trimmed)[08:48:41] <CIA-37> Keymap changes from recent activity. No AltGr yet.[08:48:41] <CIA-37> Below is a mostly complete summary of the changes in this commit.[08:48:41] <CIA-37> * Set the DeadKeys for the US-International Keymap to use the Option map.[08:48:41] <CIA-37> * Rename American keymap to US[08:48:41] <CIA-37> * Update the US, US-International, and United-Kingdom keymaps to take[08:48:42] <CIA-37> out unneeded spaces in the option layer. Also updated the dead keys[08:49:47] <JuniperJaxx> Skipp_OSX: you can[08:50:03] <JuniperJaxx> any bootable devices show up on the boot manager when you hold down option[08:52:16] *** kag_anil has joined #haiku[08:52:44] <Skipp_OSX> JuniperJaxx: I knew that, but I thought it had to be firewire[08:53:56] *** VNA9216 has joined #haiku[08:55:32] <kag_anil> i have submitted my proposal for IMAP as local FS on GSOC's site... can some one give me feedback on it...[08:55:50] <Skipp_OSX> kag_anil: I saw that, but everybody is asleep right now...[08:56:04] <kag_anil> kk...[08:56:52] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[09:03:32] *** Xeon3D is now known as zz_Xeon3D[09:04:11] *** zz_Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D[09:08:38] <JuniperJaxx> luroh:[09:08:41] <JuniperJaxx> are you around?[09:12:37] *** Xeon3D is now known as zz_Xeon3D[09:14:18] *** zz_Xeon3D is now known as Xeon3D[09:19:16] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[09:27:57] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[09:36:21] *** swarfega|away is now known as swarfega[09:43:19] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[09:51:56] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[09:54:56] <luroh> JuniperJaxx: now i am[09:55:12] <JuniperJaxx> what was that development package you had to install[09:55:40] <JuniperJaxx> i am going to pastbin the output i am getting tommrrow[09:55:52] <JuniperJaxx> basically the thing was failing because bzip2 is not installed on hiaku[09:55:55] <luroh> well, i build my own images and i had forgotten to add the Development package at build time[09:56:21] <JuniperJaxx> i bunzipd the b43 cutter to just a tar[09:56:25] <JuniperJaxx> but it is failing to compile[09:56:28] <JuniperJaxx> oh ok[09:56:37] <luroh> hm, are you still on alpha 3?[09:56:40] <JuniperJaxx> no[09:56:43] <JuniperJaxx> this is the latest nightly[09:56:49] <JuniperJaxx> which was a pain in the ass to get booted[09:57:24] <JuniperJaxx> but i will bbl[09:57:27] <JuniperJaxx> sleep time[09:57:28] <JuniperJaxx> :)[09:57:35] <JuniperJaxx> running haiku in a vm works[09:57:41] <JuniperJaxx> but it would be fun on a real computer[09:57:55] <luroh> ah, interesting... perhaps you check that it does come with the dev package[09:58:17] <luroh> gcc --version[09:59:51] <luroh> (i lost a 'can' there in the previous sentence)[10:01:46] *** KlapauciusHaiku has joined #haiku[10:03:20] *** PasNox has quit IRC[10:07:27] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[10:09:57] *** synchris has joined #haiku[10:09:57] *** synchris has joined #haiku[10:14:57] *** fhein has joined #haiku[10:15:33] *** nielx has joined #haiku[10:20:37] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[10:20:54] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[10:23:13] *** abhiin1947 has quit IRC[10:28:14] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[10:44:54] *** alexixor_ has joined #haiku[10:45:18] *** alexixor has quit IRC[10:53:38] *** sreeraj has joined #haiku[10:54:19] <sreeraj> Hi, I am Sreeraj Krishnan, a graduate student from India.[10:55:38] <sreeraj> I was going through the projects in haiku web page and I am interested in doing the project named "Modular edit view"[11:02:40] *** Huggy has joined #haiku[11:03:43] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[11:06:17] *** alexixor_ has quit IRC[11:07:47] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[11:07:59] *** nielx has quit IRC[11:15:16] *** sreeraj has quit IRC[11:15:30] *** sty_ has quit IRC[11:23:09] *** orbital_fox has joined #haiku[11:31:54] <diver_> Skipp_OSX: have you forgot to close #8148?[11:32:55] <Skipp_OSX> no, waiting for confirmation[11:35:04] <diver_> ah ok[11:37:54] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[11:38:36] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[11:41:26] *** alexixor has quit IRC[11:54:39] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[12:00:46] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[12:02:25] *** taxman01 has joined #haiku[12:05:37] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[12:17:35] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[12:27:49] *** orbital_fox has quit IRC[12:32:38] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[12:34:11] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[12:44:20] *** luroh has quit IRC[12:45:49] *** luko has joined #haiku[12:47:22] *** taxman01 has left 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quit IRC[16:03:59] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[16:04:25] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[16:05:37] *** kag_anil has joined #haiku[16:16:04] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[16:17:40] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[16:18:11] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[16:18:48] <kag_anil> i have submitted my proposal for IMAP as local FS on GSOC's site... can some one give me feedback on it..[16:20:39] <luroh> kag_anil: did you manage to work around the http proxy problem?[16:20:53] <luroh> with git, i mean[16:21:08] <kag_anil> not exactly..[16:21:37] <kag_anil> i set up http_proxy variable[16:21:58] <luroh> right, and that didn't work?[16:21:58] <kag_anil> n use "git config --global http.proxy $http_proxy"[16:22:09] <luroh> ah[16:22:17] <kag_anil> but it is not working[16:22:24] <luroh> hm[16:23:13] <kag_anil> n is it possible to access a git repository via http proxy[16:23:14] <kag_anil> ??[16:24:00] <luroh> not the main haiku repo, from what i understand, but it should be possible with the github mirror[16:24:34] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[16:25:06] <kag_anil> is this the problem with git or something else is this??[16:26:45] <luroh> i don't know tbh[16:27:33] <kag_anil> there is one more problem with my proxy server... it does not allow more than 150MB stanalone download... so we need to break it into parts[16:27:36] <kag_anil> :P[16:28:04] <luroh> ouch[16:34:43] <kag_anil> is it possible to submit patches via the github mirror...??[16:35:29] <luroh> no, i think it's read-only[16:35:42] <OmniMancer> well you don't submit patches that way[16:36:29] <kag_anil> kk.. so i need to go via haiku's git repo..[16:36:57] <hamishm> you submit the patches via trac[16:37:04] <OmniMancer> to submit patches you submit diffs generated by git[16:37:54] <kag_anil> kk... sorry i'm new to git world...[16:38:09] <OmniMancer> kag_anil: do you have no other place you could clone the git repo from?[16:38:50] <kag_anil> i have downloaded the whole repo from the http mirror of giuthub.. i.e. i now have the source code of haiku...[16:39:12] <kag_anil> but it's static one.. obviously.. :)[16:39:45] <OmniMancer> kag_anil: yes but if you download a .zip from github it doesn't give you the .git directory its just the files from that revision of the repo I believe[16:40:08] <kag_anil> yups...[16:40:38] <OmniMancer> do you have nowhere with less restricted internet?[16:41:28] <kag_anil> our lan speed is good enough to provide downloads in MBs... which i may not be having with any other 3g provider...[16:42:15] <kag_anil> or may be i'll be buying a new 3g device or other option i'll be fixing this proxy problem forever... in this summer if i get a chance to...[16:42:21] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[16:42:41] <OmniMancer> have you tried what it says here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/783811/getting-git-to-work-with-a-proxy-server[16:43:47] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[16:44:03] *** unthdarr has quit IRC[16:44:32] <kag_anil> i've tried the http_proxy option ...[16:45:29] <kag_anil> it clones the http repo with size less than 150MB(proxy server restriction)[16:45:47] <OmniMancer> ah[16:46:08] <OmniMancer> yes the 150MB restriction is bad since I don't think git can resume a clone[16:46:59] <hamishm> are you tied to using only that proxy server?[16:47:51] <kag_anil> i live in hostel at IIT Guwhati and we are provided this proxy server for accessing internet...[16:48:18] <kag_anil> but actually we have come with a work around with this problem via gproxy..[16:48:59] <OmniMancer> alternatively[16:49:12] <OmniMancer> someone may be able to clone the repo for you[16:49:17] <OmniMancer> zip it up[16:49:22] <OmniMancer> and send you that[16:49:41] <OmniMancer> after that any updates should be < 150MB unless you wait too long[16:49:45] <kag_anil> is the mirror at github updated...[16:50:50] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[16:50:56] <OmniMancer> I don't know how often[16:51:13] <kag_anil> kk...[16:51:57] <luroh> zooey said a while ago that it's kept in sync. should just be a matter of minutes, iirc[16:52:51] <kag_anil> n i can always download that zip...[16:53:51] <OmniMancer> well you can download the zip[16:53:57] <OmniMancer> but you can't make patches from it[16:54:02] <OmniMancer> not easily[16:54:04] <kag_anil> hmm...[16:58:23] <kag_anil> for submitting a patch i need to use the diff utility.. (only thing is that it may create more work...) is that right??[16:59:15] *** Cian has joined #haiku[17:01:05] <hamishm> hmm have you thought about using another proxy via your http proxy?[17:01:32] <hamishm> like tor or something[17:02:39] <kag_anil> i have not tried it...[17:03:30] <hamishm> if you go through the tor socks proxy which then goes through your normal http proxy,[17:03:48] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[17:03:52] <hamishm> it might have the effect of breaking up the http connection into multiple chunks[17:03:58] <hamishm> and avoiding the download limit problem[17:04:20] <kag_anil> kk...[17:12:18] <OmniMancer> kag_anil: the problem is if you don't make patches with git it makes more work for the person who applies them[17:13:12] <kag_anil> kk.. i understood the problem....[17:13:22] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:15:38] *** nielx has joined #haiku[17:21:52] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[17:27:48] *** Anuruddha_ has quit IRC[17:30:29] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[17:34:50] *** arun_ub has joined #haiku[17:36:32] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[17:42:46] *** arun_ub has left #haiku[17:52:12] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[17:54:47] <CIA-37> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev43958 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=33629ff : radeon_hd: Add some missing PCIID's. FireStream / HD 7800[17:57:18] <luroh> kag_anil: i can .tar.xz the full git repos and put them on a web server[17:57:35] <luroh> then you can 'wget -c' them[17:57:45] <luroh> perhaps that can get things going[17:57:47] *** anu_GSOC has joined #haiku[17:58:08] <kag_anil> luroh: very much thanks for the help...[17:58:26] <Cian> there goes my hope that a BIOS/CPU microcode update might fix the APIC issues with my machine here[17:58:34] <Cian> installed Windows and all to do said update[18:00:00] <luroh> kag_anil: i guess it's getting late in your part of the world, i'll post the links here when it's done[18:00:32] <kag_anil> kk.. no problem...[18:00:55] <luroh> if you're not around at the time, you can find them in the irc logs here: http://echelog.matzon.dk/logs/browse/haiku/[18:01:07] <kag_anil> kk...[18:03:51] <kag_anil> i have submitted my proposal for GSOC... but i know changes are always required in such kind of scenarios.. how should i go about it??[18:04:02] *** unthdarr has joined #haiku[18:05:09] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[18:07:27] *** luko has joined #haiku[18:10:03] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[18:11:01] *** humdinger has quit IRC[18:12:52] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[18:15:31] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[18:16:11] <xyzzy> kag_anil: one of the mentors will probably look at it and comment if they have any questions or suggestions, though the application deadline is in a couple of hours[18:16:55] <kag_anil> kk .... no problem...[18:19:32] <kag_anil> xyzzy: i did submitted the proposal late, sorry about that n i will not be able to change any specifics in it after 3 hrs(deadline)...[18:19:59] <kag_anil> will it be possible to reply to those comments when the deadline is over...??[18:20:22] *** luko has quit IRC[18:20:32] *** newbie has joined #haiku[18:20:56] <hamishm> yes[18:20:57] *** newbie is now known as Guest10779[18:24:09] *** _marc` has quit IRC[18:30:47] <HAIKU-Buildbot_> build #309 of x86-Linux-host is complete: Exception [exception interrupted] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-Linux-host/builds/309 blamelist: kallisti5 at unixzen dot com[18:30:53] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[18:31:44] <Cian> I can't get the boot menu to see the CD its booting off now that I have an installed partition[18:31:48] <Cian> something's gone very odd here[18:32:10] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[18:35:13] <luroh> Cian: not sure what you mean by that...are you holding down <Shift> while booting?[18:36:02] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[18:36:09] *** aldeck has quit IRC[18:36:15] <Cian> luroh yeah, and when I get the boot menu it doesn't offer CD, just the existing partition[18:36:24] <Cian> trying now with the lead to that disk disconnected[18:37:48] <luroh> hm, i see[18:39:28] *** alexixor has quit IRC[18:40:01] <Cian> with that port out it seems OK[18:40:51] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:41:08] <Cian> that disk went funny anyway I think, or at least BFS did. Haiku would boot but there were VFS KDLs if you tried doing pretty much anything[18:41:51] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[18:43:04] <Cian> wanted to use a bigger disk anyway so that's now in (along with a sound card) and installing a newer nightly to it.[18:43:38] <luroh> perhaps you can nuke the partition by some other means than from a Haiku CD, if you want to use it again[18:45:39] <Cian> hopefully won't need to, 1TB should be enough. I hope![18:45:59] <luroh> :)[18:46:33] <Cian> I still can't get over the fact that a Quad 3Ghz Xeon with 4GB RAM and now 2TB of disks in it, isn't worth using for anything more serious anymore...[18:47:06] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[18:47:31] <luroh> heh, i'm relegated to a T42 laptop here[18:48:23] <Cian> if I could get a laptop that'd work well I'd use that instead[18:48:45] <luroh> upside is, i get a whole lot of other things done while compiling :)[18:49:46] <luroh> but yeah, something like an i5 laptop would be nice[18:50:09] *** orbital_fox has quit IRC[18:50:38] <Cian> an extremely limited set of laptops ever even get sold in this country which makes finding a compatible one hard[18:51:38] <Cian> won't find Lenovo non-consumer grade anywhere; if you want something with a Core of any description you have two choices - Samsung and Toshiba[18:52:15] <luroh> oh, not even the thinkpads, you mean?[18:52:32] <Cian> an online retailer MIGHT have some but no shops will[18:53:16] <luroh> ah, yeah, not many shops around here either that have them in stock[18:53:48] <Cian> it appears that after installing fine, its not going to boot.[18:53:56] <luroh> online purchases are always somewhat of a gamble when it comes to compatibility[18:54:30] <Cian> I want to be able to feel the laptop before buying it also[18:55:28] <luroh> yeah, especialy since the number of models and hw combinations seems to be infinite with thinkpads nowadays[18:55:49] <Cian> right, it installed to the 1TB disk, wrote the boot sector and... no go. boots to the boot menu with no bootable drives showing[18:56:41] <luroh> "missing operating system"?[18:57:05] <Cian> no, the Haiku boot loader comes up[18:57:15] <luroh> oh ok[18:57:50] <luroh> even the boot splash?[18:58:12] <Cian> I'm thinking the partition isn't set up quite right, I initialised the entire disk in DriveSetup[18:58:28] <Cian> no boot splash, direct to the debug options / select bootable partition menu[18:58:34] <luroh> ok[18:59:40] <Cian> time to download gparted live...[18:59:52] <luroh> i don't think i've seen anything similar myself, just booting into the boot menu like that[19:00:53] <Cian> or in to windows to do it, forgot I'd got it installed[19:01:17] <Cian> BIOS lets you boot different drives individually itself which is about its only good feature[19:03:00] <luroh> sound useful indeed, although i wouldn't bet it works if you have more than two disks with haiku on them[19:03:32] <luroh> haiku tends to forget which disk it booted from when bios hands over the control to the OS[19:04:30] <Cian> Windows thinks the drive is 1.5TB. Which it, erm, isn't[19:09:48] *** anu_GSOC has quit IRC[19:10:57] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[19:14:50] *** _marc` has quit IRC[19:15:14] *** tic is now known as tic|mikaelj[19:16:54] *** tic|mikaelj is now known as coderformerlykno[19:16:57] *** coderformerlykno is now known as mikaelj[19:17:05] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[19:17:33] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[19:17:45] <Guest10779> Cian: did you create a partition table, or just format the whole disk as BFS ? in the latter case, installing the boot menu will kill the filesystem so that might be the problem ?[19:19:57] <luroh> kag_anil: http://deathstar.knuttinatoll.net/hammer/buildtools.tar.xz (214 MB, "http cloned" from github as of hrev43957)[19:19:59] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[19:20:02] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[19:20:11] <luroh> the haiku sources will take another 1.5 hours to upload, i'll let you know when it's done[19:20:22] <Cian> whole disk. because as far as I know, drivesetup can't parititon yet? I've since done a paritition map from Windows 2K3[19:20:23] <HaikuUser> hi[19:20:24] <kag_anil> kk...[19:20:42] <HaikuUser> hi[19:21:31] *** HaikuUser is now known as TronMan[19:21:39] *** zortness_ has joined #haiku[19:21:43] <TronMan> hello[19:21:43] *** zortness_ has left #haiku[19:21:55] <TronMan> where do you all come from[19:22:59] <Cian> is there a kernel seettings file option to disable Local APIC? Only see one for IO-APIC[19:24:40] <Guest10779> Cian: creating partition from drivesetup works fine[19:24:40] *** TronMan has quit IRC[19:24:55] *** Guest10779 is now known as PulkoMandy[19:25:33] <PulkoMandy> anyway, either create a partition and install bootman, OR format whole drive and don't install bootman[19:28:04] <Cian> all sorted now, except the LAPIC setting that needs to be selected each time[19:28:58] <PulkoMandy> likely a setting somewhere in home/config/settings/kernel ?[19:29:20] <Cian> it appears to be the only safemode option that isn't in there[19:35:51] *** yongcong has quit IRC[19:38:59] *** alexixor has quit IRC[19:40:09] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[19:41:45] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[19:46:43] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[19:49:29] *** alexixor has quit IRC[19:59:55] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[20:00:00] *** RQ has joined #haiku[20:02:38] *** RQ has left #haiku[20:21:02] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[20:27:35] *** martin_qc has joined #haiku[20:27:42] *** martin_qc has left #haiku[20:29:47] *** dcase has joined #haiku[20:34:01] *** RQ has joined #haiku[20:34:04] *** falktx has quit IRC[20:34:10] *** falktx has joined #haiku[20:39:41] *** falktx_ has joined #haiku[20:40:03] *** falktx has quit IRC[20:45:07] *** falktx_ has quit IRC[20:47:29] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[20:51:11] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[20:51:49] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[20:52:15] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[20:53:34] *** alexixor has quit IRC[20:53:46] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[20:54:05] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[20:56:31] <CIA-37> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev43959 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=0de9d6c :[20:56:31] <CIA-37> radeon_hd: Move out some DisplayPort common code[20:56:31] <CIA-37> * General DisplayPort functions in common dp.cpp[20:56:31] <CIA-37> * DP port information struct in common header[20:56:31] <CIA-37> * Please don't use this private accelerant common DP[20:56:31] <CIA-37> code just yet as it is very early.[21:00:15] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[21:01:10] <luroh> kag_anil: http://deathstar.knuttinatoll.net/hammer/haiku.tar.xz (354 MB, "http cloned" from github at hrev43957)[21:04:11] *** falktx_ has joined #haiku[21:05:20] *** tim_ has joined #haiku[21:05:38] <tim_> hello[21:12:31] *** _marc` has quit IRC[21:13:08] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[21:13:51] *** Cian has quit IRC[21:14:01] *** Cian has joined #haiku[21:15:04] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[21:15:04] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[21:15:38] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[21:17:57] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[21:17:58] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[21:19:43] <tim_> people join but no one talking[21:19:55] <JuniperJaxx> maybe they are sleep[21:20:02] <tim_> finally :)[21:20:18] <tim_> how easy is it to install haiku?[21:20:29] <JuniperJaxx> on what?[21:20:38] <tim_> general PC[21:20:41] <JuniperJaxx> virtual box? a real pc?[21:20:59] *** humdinger has quit IRC[21:21:18] <JuniperJaxx> it is easy to install you justhave to hope your hardware is supported[21:21:28] <mmadia> Guides: http://haiku-os.org/guides[21:21:50] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[21:22:15] <tim_> stable enough for everyday use?[21:28:51] *** tim_ has quit IRC[21:28:56] *** KlapauciusHaiku has quit IRC[21:32:22] *** mrsun has quit IRC[21:35:02] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[21:35:21] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[21:35:31] *** mrsun has joined #haiku[21:38:17] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[21:42:25] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[21:52:19] *** escoloader has joined #haiku[21:52:26] *** escoloader has left #haiku[21:53:02] *** adb has quit IRC[22:01:32] <Cian> how are the differences between gcc4 and gcc2 libraries handled on the /boot/common side of things?[22:02:01] <mmadia> this is for all directories ....[22:02:25] <mmadia> on both gcc2, gcc4, the bits go directly into libs/ ...[22:02:52] <mmadia> on a gcc2hybrid, the gcc2 bits go into libs/ and the gcc4 bits should go into libs/gcc4.[22:03:12] <mmadia> a gcc4hybrid is reversed -- gcc4 bits into libs/ and the gcc2 into libs/gcc2.[22:04:03] <mmadia> though, iirc, if the runtime_loader is looking for a bit in libs/<subdir> and it can't find the bit, it'll look in libs/[22:04:31] <Cian> so if I'm building a lib that needs specific versions for each I should make sure it goes to the right place?[22:06:29] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[22:07:03] <mmadia> yeah.[22:07:46] <Cian> knocking together .bep's for the VLC dependencies could prove fun then![22:09:38] *** synchris has quit IRC[22:10:08] *** arjen has quit IRC[22:10:11] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:10:16] *** adb has joined #haiku[22:13:13] <CIA-37> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev43960 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=9e4967a :[22:13:13] <CIA-37> dp common: Build Fix, use get_pixel_size_for. [2 commits][22:13:13] <CIA-37> * Thanks DeadYak for the tip[22:13:43] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[22:27:28] *** synchris has joined #haiku[22:27:28] *** synchris has joined #haiku[22:29:43] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[22:31:07] <HAIKU-Buildbot_> build #305 of x86-FreeBSD-host is complete: Failure [failed [x86gcc2] haiku-image [x86gcc2] haiku-vmware-image [x86gcc2] @alpha-anyboot [x86gcc2] @alpha-vmware [x86gcc2] @alpha-raw [x86gcc2] @alpha-cd [x86gcc2] @nightly-anyboot [x86gcc2] @nightly-vmware [x86gcc2] @nightly-raw [x86gcc2] @nightly-cd [x86gcc2hybrid] haiku-image [x86gcc2hybrid] haiku-vmware-image[22:31:08] <HAIKU-Buildbot_> [x86gcc2hybrid] @alpha-anyboot [x86gcc2hybrid] @alpha-vmware [x86gcc2hybrid] @alpha-raw [x86gcc2hybrid] @alpha-cd [x86gcc2hybrid] @nightly-anyboot [x86gcc2hybrid] @nightly-vmware [x86gcc2hybrid] @nightly-raw [x86gcc2hybrid] @nightly-cd] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-FreeBSD-host/builds/305 blamelist: kallisti5 at unixzen dot com[22:39:16] *** kcj has joined #haiku[22:45:29] *** PasNox has quit IRC[22:55:19] <CIA-37> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev43961 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=f7b9606 :[22:55:19] <CIA-37> Patch by ahenriksson to fix a computation bug in Deskcalc[22:55:19] <CIA-37> Ticket #8389 Signed off by John Scipione[22:55:19] <CIA-37> When trimming trailing 0's to make the number fit in the window,[22:55:19] <CIA-37> make sure to only trim trailing 0's AFTER the decimal point, not before.[22:55:27] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[23:00:10] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[23:00:38] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[23:00:58] <CIA-37> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev43962 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=6c09d41 :[23:00:58] <CIA-37> Clean up comment a bit, meant to do this in last push[23:00:58] <CIA-37> There was a trailing space at the end of the line.[23:11:35] *** Cian has quit IRC[23:14:53] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:20:21] *** Cian has joined #haiku[23:20:35] <Cian> is BELIBRARIES meant to have /boot/common/lib defined?[23:21:44] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[23:23:53] *** synchris has quit IRC[23:24:20] *** dcase has quit IRC[23:26:25] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[23:27:53] *** synchris has joined #haiku[23:27:58] *** synchris has quit IRC[23:27:59] *** synchris has joined #haiku[23:30:49] * DaaT borks mmu_man[23:31:26] <Cian> DaaT what, no sheep?[23:31:49] * DaaT is keeping the sheep all to himself[23:31:50] <DaaT> :P[23:31:53] <mmu_man> plop[23:31:54] <SMCollins> baaaaaa[23:31:56] <DaaT> howdy Cian, how goes?[23:32:17] * DaaT shields his sheep from SMCollins[23:32:18] <Cian> DaaT OK generally. Managing to confuse myself horribly though[23:32:42] * SMCollins lets wolf out of cage[23:33:09] * DaaT shoots wolf[23:33:15] <DaaT> Cian, the belibraries?[23:33:50] * SMCollins release lions,tiger and bears, Ohh my[23:34:07] <Cian> DaaT that amongst others[23:34:15] <Cian> trying to get the VLC deps to build for the first time in maybe 5 years[23:34:21] * SMCollins mwhaaa haha ha , watchs Daat's sheep and Daat get eaten[23:34:57] <DaaT> Cian, was going to ask that[23:35:04] * SMCollins ears perk VLC you say ?[23:35:18] * DaaT releases stinger missiles and other similar weapons[23:35:29] <DaaT> SMCollins, Cian used to mantain the old VLC prot[23:35:33] <DaaT> port[23:35:38] * SMCollins rejoices ![23:35:57] <Cian> SMCollins once upon a time I maintained VLC, after titer (late of this parish) stopped. But I've not got anything to built since 0.8.6i I think[23:36:01] <SMCollins> Cian, ar eyou going to revive the native BeOS gui or use the QT gui ???[23:36:06] <Cian> which I eventually managed to make play DVDs on Haiku[23:36:19] <SMCollins> yeah, I've use 8.6i allot[23:36:25] <Cian> SMCollins more possibly going to build something new on top of libvlc but I'm not 100% sure yet[23:36:29] *** synchris has quit IRC[23:36:34] <SMCollins> be nice to have update dvcss etc[23:36:55] <SMCollins> what'd be even cooler, would be to hook that functionality into media player[23:37:29] *** RQ has quit IRC[23:38:39] <Cian> that's another possibility. However I was never very good at C++ and I'm 5 years out of practice[23:39:03] <CIA-37> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev43963 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=ece8e7a : radeon_hd: Fix pll DisplayPort endian bug.[23:39:32] <Cian> it definitely looks as if my system definition of BELIBRARIES has been eaten[23:41:34] <SMCollins> Cian, what version of vlc are you thinking of bringing to haiku ?[23:42:22] *** synchris has joined #haiku[23:42:23] *** synchris has joined #haiku[23:42:31] <Cian> SMCollins its 2.0.1 I'm poking at[23:43:23] <Cian> pkg-config needs glib to build; glib needs pkg-config to build[23:43:46] <SMCollins> what ?[23:43:56] <DaaT> how far have you got? if at all atm[23:43:56] <DaaT> oh fun[23:44:02] <SMCollins> 2 things, both depending on each other[23:44:15] <SMCollins> how did that sort of preverse logic occur ?[23:44:17] <Cian> DaaT not hugely[23:44:28] <Cian> SMCollins pkg-config used to include its own copy of an ancient glib. now it doesn't[23:44:37] <SMCollins> wonderful[23:45:53] <DaaT> *nod*[23:47:14] *** luroh has quit IRC[23:49:16] <Cian> DaaT I've not even got a full set of dependencies built let alone tackled the serious stuff[23:49:18] *** Megaf has quit IRC[23:49:34] <Cian> dependency building used to take 8+ hours on my old BeOS box for instance[23:50:28] <hamishm> fwiw, BELIBRARIES is /boot/develop/abi/current/library-paths/common:/boot/develop/lib/x86 for me[23:51:04] <DaaT> 8+? damn...[23:51:11] <SMCollins> Cian, thats a long time to build. What type of hardware do you have acess to now ?[23:51:52] <Cian> SMCollins one core of a 3.2Ghz Xeon (other 3 being unused due to an APIC problem)[23:52:03] <Cian> that 8 hours was on 2 cores of a 2.8 Pentium D[23:52:29] <SMCollins> If there is anyway for me to remote you in, I'd let you have acess to my haiku machine remotely native 6 core at 3.6ghz[23:52:59] <DaaT> nice specs[23:53:22] <Cian> SMCollins if I manage to get anywhere I'll look at setting up a cross compile, use this box running at full whack in Linux and use my desktop (2x2.53 Core 2) to test on. the desktop gets a bit too hot compiling though[23:53:33] * DaaT is on 4 cores at 2.26ghz[23:54:48] <Cian> there's less deps required now than on BeOS; I think[23:55:03] <Cian> on BeOS you had to build Perl, newer autotools, iconv, gettext etc that Haiku provides