April 2, 2012 
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April 2, 2012 [00:02:14] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[00:03:54] *** Zevs_ has joined #haiku[00:05:49] *** mihaineacsu has joined #haiku[00:10:06] *** mihaineacsu has quit IRC[00:10:26] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[00:19:22] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[00:19:58] *** bosii has quit IRC[00:21:35] *** mihaineacsu has joined #haiku[00:21:43] *** Zevs_ has left #haiku[00:21:44] <Franxico> bye all![00:22:33] *** Huggy has quit IRC[00:24:46] *** Franxico has quit IRC[00:37:33] *** arjen has quit IRC[00:40:48] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[00:41:34] *** sty has joined #haiku[00:41:55] *** swarfega is now known as swarfega|away[00:43:51] *** PeteG has left #haiku[00:44:55] *** VNA9216 has quit IRC[00:49:56] <CIA-37> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev43938 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=e1b41a1 :[00:49:57] <CIA-37> Add base64 decoding helpers to read ints [2 commits][00:49:57] <CIA-37> Some helper functions to read uint8, uint16 and uint32 (actually int32 it seems...).[00:49:57] <CIA-37> Note the value is effectively read as big-endian.[00:50:43] *** rmp has quit IRC[00:55:40] *** Barrett|Haiku has joined #haiku[01:04:49] <bbjimmy> The product of being flooded in all week-end http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/utilities/screensavers/screensaver-randomizer[01:05:37] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:07:51] *** markos_ has quit IRC[01:08:16] *** synchris has quit IRC[01:29:54] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[01:30:04] *** minox has quit IRC[01:31:16] *** hamishm has quit IRC[01:31:46] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[01:42:17] <Skipp_OSX> bbjimmy: hard to see from that link what the app looks like though, I can imagine it, but, a screenshot would be nice.[01:45:48] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[01:54:06] *** Disreali has quit IRC[01:55:54] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:57:11] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[01:58:28] *** Disreali_away has joined #haiku[01:59:45] *** Disreali2 has joined #haiku[02:00:20] *** Disreali has quit IRC[02:01:38] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[02:02:56] *** Disreali_away has quit IRC[02:04:28] *** luroh has quit IRC[02:06:21] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[02:08:04] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[02:08:27] <bbjimmy> Skipp_OSX Now there is a screenshot[02:08:42] <bbjimmy> http://haikuware.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=100122&func=savethumb[02:09:28] *** Disreali_away has joined #haiku[02:09:50] <bbjimmy> http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/utilities/screensavers/screensaver-randomizer[02:09:56] <bbjimmy> wrong link[02:10:51] *** Disreali2 has joined #haiku[02:10:54] *** Disreali has quit IRC[02:10:57] *** Disreali2 is now known as Disreali[02:12:39] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[02:14:08] <bbjimmy> Skipp_OSX I have been using the included script to change screensavers since BeOS r4[02:14:24] *** Disreali_away has quit IRC[02:14:30] <bbjimmy> I just made the program so that others can use the script.[02:16:04] <bbjimmy> Every time my screen blanks, I get another screensaver.[02:17:29] *** jua_ has quit IRC[02:18:40] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[02:29:16] <SMCollins> was up jua[02:30:01] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[02:49:36] *** mihaineacsu has quit IRC[02:53:50] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[02:55:00] *** stpere has joined #haiku[03:00:18] *** per has joined #haiku[03:00:25] *** cb88 has joined #haiku[03:00:44] *** per is now known as Guest9[03:01:05] *** Guest9 is now known as PerVers[03:02:20] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[03:02:30] *** PerVers has quit IRC[03:03:16] *** Barrett|Haiku has quit IRC[03:08:48] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[03:17:15] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[03:21:07] *** cb88 has quit IRC[03:29:32] *** P4R4N01D has joined #haiku[03:34:57] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[03:36:17] *** dr_evil_ has quit IRC[03:53:49] *** stpere has quit IRC[03:57:09] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[03:58:42] *** oco2 has quit IRC[04:02:23] *** sdsk8 has joined #haiku[04:03:14] *** sdsk8 has joined #haiku[04:09:54] *** Per_Vers has joined #haiku[04:10:26] <Per_Vers> Hello. I have some wifi problems.[04:11:17] <Per_Vers> Haiku boots on my machine. It lists all available wifi networks just fine. I have installed wpa_supplicant.[04:11:59] <Per_Vers> When I click on the network I want to connect to, it gives me a dialog box where I fill in the password.[04:12:32] <Per_Vers> I click OK.[04:12:52] <Per_Vers> But Haiku DOES NOT connect to it.[04:14:05] <Per_Vers> /dev/net/atheroswifi/0: No link[04:15:00] <Per_Vers> Any idea why it fails to connect to wifi?[04:16:16] *** sparc-kly has joined #haiku[04:21:56] <Disreali> Per_Vers: It might be better to ask on the mail list. you'll get more exposure to the people that can help[04:23:01] <Per_Vers> just wanted to know if you are aware of this bug or a possible solution.[04:24:19] *** vivek_h has joined #haiku[04:28:39] *** Per_Vers has left #haiku[04:35:30] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[04:47:17] *** vivek_h has quit IRC[05:01:42] *** [Katisu] has joined #haiku[05:06:09] *** mmadia has quit IRC[05:18:49] *** Disreali has quit IRC[05:47:52] *** Winged_Arel has joined #haiku[06:24:26] *** hamishm has quit IRC[06:24:29] *** yourpalal has joined #haiku[06:33:39] *** mek8630 has joined #haiku[06:33:40] *** mek8630 has left #haiku[06:42:49] *** Winged_Arel has quit IRC[06:44:20] *** Winged_Arel has joined #haiku[06:45:57] *** bryan_w has quit IRC[06:53:45] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[06:57:22] *** vivek_h has joined #haiku[07:06:04] <CIA-37> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1862 /haikuports/trunk/net-misc/curl/patches/curl-7.25.0.patch http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1862 : Added patch to allow curl to correctly detect and use openssl-1.0.0g[07:06:04] *** Alam_Lenny has quit IRC[07:14:50] *** yourpalal has left #haiku[07:15:08] *** yourpalal has joined #haiku[07:19:18] *** mihaineacsu has joined #haiku[07:20:00] *** SMCollins1 has joined #haiku[07:25:16] *** bosii has joined #haiku[07:32:24] *** P4R4N01D has quit IRC[07:33:11] *** SMCollins1 has quit IRC[07:39:59] *** FrStm has joined #haiku[07:53:54] *** bosii has quit IRC[08:11:17] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[08:15:33] *** orealis has quit IRC[08:33:22] *** yourpalal has left #haiku[08:37:03] *** orealis has joined #haiku[08:48:45] *** adev has joined #haiku[08:49:54] *** mihaineacsu has quit IRC[09:11:59] <CIA-37> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1863 /haikuports/trunk/packs/optionalpackages/optionalpackages-0.7-gcc2.bep http://ports.haiku-files.org/changeset/1863 :[09:12:00] <CIA-37> Added gitdoc, updated clockwerk and curl, and removed gcc4 depend for[09:12:00] <CIA-37> gcc2 optionalpackages.[09:24:37] *** Luko has joined #haiku[09:30:58] *** Luko has quit IRC[09:37:41] *** synchris has joined #haiku[09:40:10] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[09:42:34] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[09:42:37] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[09:42:37] *** Spacewalker has joined #haiku[09:44:47] *** swarfega|away is now known as swarfega[09:45:15] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[09:56:17] *** adev has quit IRC[10:11:16] *** sty has quit IRC[10:19:29] *** kieselsteini has joined #haiku[10:21:21] *** mihaineacsu has joined #haiku[10:28:48] *** KeP has quit IRC[10:30:43] *** VNA9216 has joined #haiku[10:36:19] *** Franxico has joined #haiku[10:43:56] *** Luko has joined #haiku[10:57:03] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[11:07:37] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[11:27:45] *** mihaineacsu has quit IRC[11:28:09] *** mihaineacsu has joined #haiku[11:32:52] *** adev has joined #haiku[11:39:46] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[11:39:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aldeck[11:47:15] *** mihaineacsu has quit IRC[11:55:53] *** mitknil has joined #haiku[12:04:29] *** mitknil has quit IRC[12:15:37] *** Spelln has joined #haiku[12:17:31] *** CommanderSpleen has quit IRC[12:23:40] *** Huggy has joined #haiku[12:24:13] *** tic has quit IRC[12:24:18] *** tic has joined #haiku[12:26:56] *** Barrett|Haiku has joined #haiku[12:28:16] *** falktx has joined #haiku[12:29:49] *** Luko has quit IRC[12:40:18] *** budrys has quit IRC[12:44:31] *** sdsk8 has quit IRC[12:48:19] *** budrys has joined #haiku[12:50:52] *** anu_GSOC has joined #haiku[13:10:21] *** Barrett|Haiku has quit IRC[13:12:51] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:13:05] *** Barrett has quit IRC[13:14:05] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:14:24] *** Barrett has quit IRC[13:14:44] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:19:27] *** aldeck1 has joined #haiku[13:20:03] *** aldeck has quit IRC[13:20:08] *** Per_Vers has joined #haiku[13:21:49] <Per_Vers> Hello. I have some wifi problems. Haiku boots on my machine. It lists all available wifi networks just fine. I have installed wpa_supplicant.[13:22:13] <Per_Vers> When I click on the network I want to connect to, it gives me a dialog box where I fill in the password.[13:22:49] <Per_Vers> I click OK, but Haiku DOES NOT connect to it.[13:23:38] *** anu_GSOC has quit IRC[13:25:17] <diver_> Per_Vers which haiku revision?[13:26:23] <Per_Vers> latest nightly. But I have tried several nightlies ever since it got driver support for my wifi card.[13:27:07] <Per_Vers> My lspci is here in another, unrelated bug report for the same laptop: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8227[13:27:52] <Per_Vers> /dev/net/atheroswifi/0: No link[13:28:06] <diver_> so it's Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)[13:29:27] <diver_> http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?showmsg=1&qt=grep&q=wpa[13:29:49] <diver_> wpa might be broken on current nightlies[13:30:50] <Per_Vers> Does your link lead to an older version of wpa_supplicant, that works better?[13:31:22] <diver_> I'm not sure, but you can try gcc4 image and see if it works there[13:31:42] <Per_Vers> I installed wpa_supplicant using command: installoptionalpackage -i wpa_supplicant[13:32:32] <Per_Vers> What are the downsides of using gcc4 rather than the recommended gcc2?[13:33:11] <diver_> it's not officially supported and it have a few gcc4 only issues[13:35:00] <Per_Vers> such as..? Does all the software still work, like webpositive browser?[13:35:12] <diver_> Per_Vers: maybe you also need to install atheros firmware?[13:36:13] <Per_Vers> I did install wifi firmwares. install-wifi-firmwares.sh[13:37:16] <diver_> can you pastebin your syslog?[13:38:59] <Per_Vers> That will take a short while... DD*ing Haiku Image to memory stick now. GCC2 version.[13:39:16] <Per_Vers> Or should I try GCC4 right now?[13:40:04] <diver_> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8380[13:44:27] <Per_Vers> Booting latest GCC2 nightly now from USB drive. What do you recommend I do to help the Haiku project?[13:45:10] <diver_> post your syslog in the above ticket[13:45:42] <diver_> and another one from hrev43728 or earlier[13:46:07] <Per_Vers> Before I do anything? I just DD*ed Haiku nightly to the memory stick. Have not played with wifi yet.[13:48:33] <Per_Vers> Or should I try to install wifi-firmwares or wpa_supplicant first?[13:49:26] <diver_> I can't see anything related to atheros in install-wifi-firmwares script, so maybe it's not really needed for this chipset[13:50:01] <diver_> but yeah, installing wpa_supplicant won't hurt[13:50:12] <Per_Vers> true... It lists available networks in my neighbourhood without installing wifi-firmwares.sh.[13:50:46] <diver_> then you don't need it[13:51:25] <Per_Vers> ok. Then I proceed with installing wpa_supplicant right now.[13:53:06] <Per_Vers> done. now what? where*s syslog?[13:53:16] *** anu_GSOC has joined #haiku[13:54:49] <diver_> Per_Vers: Alt+f on the Desktop and search for "syslog"[13:56:00] <Per_Vers> found several. Is it /boot/common/var/log?[13:56:25] <diver_> yep[13:57:22] <Per_Vers> anythhing else of interest, apart from syslog?[13:57:32] <diver_> but wifi drivers spam a lot in syslog, so it usually contain useful information right after boot[13:57:37] *** aldeck1 has quit IRC[13:57:46] <diver_> Per_Vers: pastebin it first[13:58:02] <Per_Vers> I have copied it to a memory stick. No browser in nightlies.[14:00:55] *** Franxico has quit IRC[14:01:00] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[14:05:56] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[14:05:56] <Xeon3D> Per_Vers Nightlies don't have browsers integrated[14:06:19] <Xeon3D> Per_Vers you can install one if you can connect to the internet by means of the installoptionalpackage terminal command.[14:06:23] <Per_Vers> http://pastebin.com/J2PDCHaq[14:07:25] <diver_> Per_Vers: it doesn't contain usefull data, you will need to delete syslog, reboot and copy new once right after boot[14:08:08] <Per_Vers> I know that. But the image for booting Haiku gets full. Not enough room for browser, files and wpa_supplicant. it*s a 16 GB memory stick, but DD makes only a small partition which is nearly full already.[14:09:26] <diver_> Per_Vers: I think you can create another another partition using DriveSetup on your mem stick and Install Haiku there[14:10:16] <Per_Vers> drivesetup?[14:11:05] <diver_> http://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/applications/drivesetup.html[14:12:47] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[14:18:52] *** Forca has joined #haiku[14:20:23] <Per_Vers> http://pastebin.com/Ad9YVmeG[14:21:10] *** anu_GSOC has quit IRC[14:22:26] <diver_> Per_Vers: ok, this one is good. do you have anything in your syslog when you try to connect to you network? tail -F /var/log/syslog[14:23:16] <Per_Vers> I don*t understand your question.[14:23:56] <diver_> do you see anything new in your syslog when you try to connect to your network using wpa_supplicant?[14:24:09] <diver_> to watch new messages use tail -F /var/log/syslog[14:24:22] <diver_> sorry meeting[14:24:28] * diver_ is now away[14:25:43] <Per_Vers> I typed tail -F /var/log/syslog in Terminal on the Haiku machine.[14:26:01] <Per_Vers> It keeps writing something new every second.[14:26:35] <Per_Vers> Much of it seems to be about atheroswifi[14:35:35] *** kcj has quit IRC[14:37:29] <Per_Vers> Here is the output from tail -F /var/log/syslog[14:37:34] <Per_Vers> http://pastebin.com/1Va2jrTL[14:38:44] <Per_Vers> A few lines of text came along when I tried to select my wifi network, but it drowned in spam. That log writes itself really fast.[14:41:37] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:43:11] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[14:46:49] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[14:52:23] *** Carbamide has joined #haiku[15:01:04] *** Per_Vers has left #haiku[15:02:58] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[15:07:52] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[15:10:00] *** anu_GSOC has joined #haiku[15:23:05] *** Franxico has joined #haiku[15:26:53] *** Tzibu has quit IRC[15:46:22] *** sparc-kly__ has joined #haiku[15:48:50] *** sparc-kly has quit IRC[15:54:18] *** nsuperbus has joined #haiku[16:07:07] *** Chat7840 has joined #haiku[16:07:16] *** Chat7840 has quit IRC[16:12:42] *** arjen has joined #haiku[16:15:04] *** arjen has quit IRC[16:17:42] *** arjen has joined #haiku[16:29:22] *** anu_GSOC has quit IRC[16:29:41] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[16:32:46] *** VNA9216 has quit IRC[16:33:12] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[16:34:08] *** Disreali has quit IRC[16:35:21] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[16:37:10] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[16:45:24] *** VNA9216 has joined #haiku[16:47:23] *** tc_me has joined #haiku[16:59:42] *** tc_me has left #haiku[17:02:00] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[17:02:28] <[JJ]Albert> *Ahem* How do you say: Yoyo, wassup![17:02:53] <[JJ]Albert> Or whatever jive-speak the youngins command these days.[17:03:58] *** anu_GSOC has joined #haiku[17:04:16] <[JJ]Albert> Hi, everyone, is what I was trying to say.[17:04:20] <[JJ]Albert> :po[17:07:39] *** falktx has quit IRC[17:08:10] *** dcase has joined #haiku[17:09:35] <[JJ]Albert> So, Haiku is in the GSoC this year. That's great![17:10:02] <[JJ]Albert> It's chugging along, I see.[17:11:19] <[JJ]Albert> Gee, and it looks like there was a little collab. with the ReactOS group.[17:13:20] <[JJ]Albert> That's cool.[17:24:23] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[17:25:51] *** Spacewalker has quit IRC[17:35:40] *** SMCollins1 has joined #haiku[17:57:02] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[17:57:12] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[17:57:23] <[JJ]Albert> Meh, later. :\[17:57:27] *** [JJ]Albert has left #haiku[18:03:44] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:10:16] *** PerVers has joined #haiku[18:12:41] *** kag_anil has joined #haiku[18:15:23] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[18:21:44] *** Anil has joined #haiku[18:21:49] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[18:22:01] *** fhein has joined #haiku[18:22:19] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[18:23:36] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[18:25:15] *** Anil is now known as kag_anil[18:26:34] *** jshade has quit IRC[18:26:34] *** PerVers has quit IRC[18:26:53] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[18:27:55] *** adev has quit IRC[18:32:53] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[18:33:02] <Premislaus> hi[18:36:16] *** SMCollins1 has quit IRC[18:51:54] *** anu_GSOC has quit IRC[18:55:21] *** vezhlys_ has joined #haiku[19:00:45] *** kieselsteini has quit IRC[19:06:53] *** abhiin1947 has joined #haiku[19:11:59] *** {V} has quit IRC[19:12:08] *** Per_Vers has joined #haiku[19:13:48] <abhiin1947> hi[19:14:01] <Per_Vers> Hi. I have a sound related bug. https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8227 Haiku makes scraping or chopping noises.[19:14:34] <abhiin1947> i'm interested in doing tortoisegit like addon for haiku[19:14:44] <abhiin1947> as a part of gsoc[19:14:55] <Per_Vers> I wrote that bug report 4 months ago, and it has not yet given a reply.[19:15:10] <abhiin1947> who should i talk to regarding the idea?[19:15:25] <Per_Vers> Any idea what this is? The latest nightly has the same bug.[19:16:45] <diver_> Per_Vers: you can try is to delete HDA driver and install OSS instead[19:17:16] <diver_> Per_Vers: open Media preflet and verify that you're currently using HDA[19:18:23] <adamk_> Per_Vers: Yeah, I've had a bug report on HDA for well over a year now... Maybe two or more. My workaround was to use the opensound package.[19:18:57] <Per_Vers> how do I do that?[19:19:19] <diver_> Per_Vers: do you see HDA in Media preflet?[19:19:50] <Per_Vers> what is media preflet?[19:20:37] <adamk_> The Media preferences utility[19:21:04] <diver_> http://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/preferences/media.html[19:23:06] <diver_> or if you prefer Terminal you can type: listimage | grep hda[19:23:38] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[19:27:54] <Per_Vers> 1694 /boot/system/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev/audio/hmulti/hda 0xcd7df00 0xcd7e9000 0 0[19:28:22] <Per_Vers> TEAM 2510 (/bin/grep hda):[19:28:34] <Per_Vers> No idea what that means :-([19:28:47] <arfonzo> hey guys, finally finished work, and re-partitioned, now i've split my system and "home" drives as suggested[19:29:07] <diver_> ok, that means that HDA driver is loaded, but doesn't work correctly on your hardware[19:30:03] <Per_Vers> how do I load a better driver?[19:30:55] <diver_> Per_Vers fo to /system/add-ons/kernel/drivers and rename hda to hda.disabled[19:31:36] <diver_> err, now*[19:32:09] <diver_> Per_Vers: then type: installoptionalpackage opensound[19:32:23] *** alexixor has quit IRC[19:32:45] <diver_> this will download and unpack OSS drivers[19:33:02] <diver_> then cross your fingers and reboot ;-)[19:33:50] <Per_Vers> In the drivers folder, there is only:[19:33:57] <Per_Vers> bin dev disk power[19:34:04] <diver_> it's in bin[19:38:14] <Per_Vers> any negative side effects of opensound, rather than hda?[19:38:41] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has joined #haiku[19:39:00] <adamk_> Not really. You'll have to remove the native driver after any updates that put the driver back, and reinstall opensound if you install from scratch.[19:39:34] <bbjimmy-atwork-> always keep a Haiku CD around.[19:39:55] <diver_> Per_Vers: if it will work at all[19:40:01] <Per_Vers> Playing a song now. No error message. But it*s completely silent.[19:40:14] <bbjimmy-atwork-> the system wouldn't boot ... bad node ... ran checkfs and fixed it[19:40:41] <Per_Vers> The volume control says "Could not find the mixer"[19:40:41] <diver_> Per_Vers: have you rebooted?[19:40:45] <Per_Vers> yes[19:41:04] <diver_> check Media preflet[19:41:32] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[19:42:43] <Per_Vers> what should I do there?[19:43:17] <tqh> abhiin1947, I think the haiku-development mailing list is best to start.[19:44:28] <Per_Vers> Audio mixer, Gain control Master output says "Not connected"[19:44:33] <abhiin1947> tqh, thanks will try :)[19:44:53] *** korli has joined #haiku[19:44:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[19:44:54] <tqh> Actually the haiku mailing list is recommended on our gsoc page.[19:45:30] <diver_> Per_Vers: do you see any OSS signs?[19:45:40] <Per_Vers> Audio settings, Defaults Audio Input and Audio Output[19:45:48] <Per_Vers> All I can choose is None[19:46:13] <diver_> Per_Vers: then OSS doesn't support your sound card either :-([19:46:57] <diver_> Per_Vers: btw, regarding your wifi problem - try to do it in terminal. type: ifconfig <device> join net name password[19:47:09] <Per_Vers> This bug: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8227[19:47:20] <Per_Vers> it just got a owner, korli.[19:47:39] <Per_Vers> Does this mean a developer named korli will work on it now?[19:48:23] <adamk_> It means he will likely look at it.[19:48:54] <Per_Vers> what do I put for device?[19:49:00] <diver_> no, I've just changed component and he is a default owner of it[19:49:08] <adamk_> Ahhh, nevermind then :-)[19:49:35] <diver_> Per_Vers: /dev/net/atheroswifi/0[19:50:09] *** dcase has quit IRC[19:50:18] <adamk_> diver_: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/3794 For what it's worth, I no longer have the hardware, but I don't see an option to close it. Feel free, if you can.[19:50:36] <adamk_> Oh, someone else is having the same problem, it seems.[19:51:03] <diver_> no, the problem is still there, so it's better to leave it[19:52:35] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[19:55:22] <diver_> adamk: if it was some obscure device then we would likely close it if no one else has it, but hda is widely used, so the chances that someone has the same hw are high[19:56:44] <Per_Vers> No, not working.[19:58:31] <diver_> no luck[19:58:53] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[19:58:59] *** SMCollins1 has joined #haiku[19:59:46] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[20:00:09] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[20:02:41] <Per_Vers> Kinda wish I hadn*t sold my old Acer Aspire. Haiku worked perfectly on it. Now I have a few laptops, but they don*t run Haiku.[20:03:54] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku[20:06:02] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[20:09:21] *** korli has quit IRC[20:10:36] <diver_> Per_Vers: what was the error message when you tried to connect using ifconfig?[20:11:31] *** kag_anil has quit IRC[20:12:35] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[20:12:45] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[20:13:04] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[20:13:25] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[20:14:41] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[20:14:52] *** Beretta021 has quit IRC[20:15:02] <diver_> Per_Vers: also don't post pastebin links in trac. it's better to attach files as pastebin data is not going to stay forever[20:15:46] *** Beretta021 has joined #haiku[20:16:03] <Per_Vers> ok[20:20:42] <BitPuffin> Do you need it to stay forever though?[20:22:26] <diver_> yeah, who wants to live forever anyway?[20:23:03] <BitPuffin> I mean how often do you go: "Ah, damn; remember that bug Haiku had 4 years ago? I wanted to look at the code fix that someone sent via pastebin, but pastebin doesn't exist anymore. SHOOT!"[20:23:07] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[20:23:09] <tqh> no, but if you report a bug the info should be in the bug. The devs have very little spare time, so they shouldn't need to jump to and from other places and figure out how to get the data on each one.[20:24:13] <tqh> the easier you make it for the devs the more time they have to work on stuff that matters.[20:24:40] <BitPuffin> Fair enough, but you access trac via a browser, so isn't it easier to click a link in the browser than having to download a file and open it in some text editor?[20:25:58] <tqh> yes, but the UI of trac is one ui the ui of every pastebin is different, then you have dropbox, and friends and then you have ... Remember there a lot of bugs not just one.[20:27:10] <BitPuffin> Sure[20:27:34] <tqh> trac is were you report bugs and add data of that bug. Not git, not subversion, not pastebin, not gopher...[20:30:24] <BitPuffin> Yeah and I get that. But I'm not sure why anyone would make a big deal out of following a pastebin link. And that the developers wouldn't be able to understand the UI of pastebin is kind of insulting. But yeah. Just typing in Trac is definitely the best way, but I have a hard time figuring out why anyone would be grumpy over a pastebin link[20:34:34] *** _marc` has quit IRC[20:34:56] <tqh> I don't think anyone is grumpy. Just trying to explain that it should be avoided because it makes a mess of things. It's better to work on code than dealing with a mess.[20:37:54] <BitPuffin> Fair enough :)[20:39:19] <BitPuffin> Btw I've seen some work going on with compositing and stuff on the mailing list. Has there been developments in the graphics area of Haiku? I'm part of the Drafter team but Duggan isn't really around anymore so not much is happening. Anyways, any advencements with hardware acceleration?[20:40:22] <tqh> hardware accelereation depends on gallium drivers, and so kind of uncertain when we have that.[20:40:55] <BitPuffin> I see[20:41:05] <tqh> There is work done there and mesa has been updated to enable more work, so just have to wait and see.[20:41:07] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[20:41:23] <BitPuffin> Yeah[20:41:35] <BitPuffin> Unfortunately Mesa only supports up to 2.1 :/[20:41:42] <BitPuffin> (OpenGL)[20:42:06] <tqh> wasn't that changing with gallium?[20:42:15] <BitPuffin> It hasn't yet at least[20:42:20] <BitPuffin> unless I've missed something[20:42:38] <tqh> Mesa 8.0 is released. This is the first version of Mesa to support OpenGL 3.0 and GLSL 1.30[20:43:50] <BitPuffin> Ah[20:43:51] <BitPuffin> that's awesome[20:43:59] <BitPuffin> Just saw that on their website[20:44:04] <BitPuffin> Frickin fantastic[20:44:37] <BitPuffin> Hopefully it will be up to OpenGL 3.3 soon then :)[20:45:52] <jstressman> spam coming through for anyone else from freelists.org ?[20:46:02] <jstressman> I just got 2 from Michael Oliviera I think it was.[20:46:12] <jstressman> and Haiku is the only thing I'm on freelists for.[20:47:29] <jua_> Yup, same here.[20:47:51] <jua_> Seems he got some malware into his system that sent it to his address book.[20:49:22] <BitPuffin> Sounds like someone is on Windows[20:50:02] <BitPuffin> Anyways, has anyone tried to contact AMD or nvidia to make drivers for Haiku?[20:50:58] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[20:51:05] <scgtrp> BitPuffin: kallisti5 has been in contact with some amd people while working on the radeon drivers, afaik[20:51:38] <BitPuffin> Ah, yeah that's not surprising[20:52:10] <BitPuffin> But companies like that usually like to keep their code closed in order to not reveal any details[20:52:45] <scgtrp> from what i've heard they've been pretty good about it (with technical details, at least, i don't know if they've provided any code)[20:53:14] <BitPuffin> kallisti5: I love the fact that you wrote drivers :). Unfortunately, they do not work with mobility radeon hd 3400 for me. Otherwise, top class![20:53:39] <BitPuffin> scgtrp. That's pretty cool. I like AMD. Although their drivers usually aren't the greatest[20:58:58] *** luroh has joined #haiku[20:59:42] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[21:03:35] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[21:04:49] * DaaT pokes Franxico[21:10:13] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[21:15:59] <Per_Vers> diver_ OK. I was supposed to give the output from ifconfig <device> join net name password.[21:16:21] <diver_> yep[21:16:23] <Per_Vers> Sorry about the delay. Actually there is no output.[21:16:38] <diver_> ah[21:16:49] <Per_Vers> I hit enter, and I*m back on the prompt to type a new command. No message.[21:17:22] <diver_> maybe you can see something in syslog when you hit enter?[21:17:52] <diver_> you will have to filter out some data to reduce flood[21:19:39] <Per_Vers> how[21:20:39] <diver_> something like this should calm it down a bit: tail -F /var/log/syslog | grep -ve scan_task -ve ieee80211_ref_node -ve probe_resp -ve bintval[21:25:14] <Per_Vers> can*t do it. Can*t find the pipe symbol on my keyboard. Where is it on US keyboard?[21:25:14] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[21:25:33] <PulkoMandy> shift + some key near backspace I think ?[21:25:52] *** luroh has quit IRC[21:26:08] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[21:26:32] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[21:28:39] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[21:29:39] *** Barrett has quit IRC[21:30:49] *** luroh has joined #haiku[21:33:33] <Per_Vers> OK, it took a while to type all that, as I*m not on IRC with the same computer.[21:33:51] <Per_Vers> Screen filled with info. What do I look for?[21:34:12] <diver_> Per_Vers: the syslog you've just posted here https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8227#comment:3 is useless, it on;y contains wifi data[21:34:51] <diver_> does it still fills fast?[21:35:16] <Per_Vers> every ten second or something.[21:36:13] <diver_> ok, now try to ifconfig <device> join net name password in the second terminal and see is something new appears in the first one[21:36:22] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[21:36:23] <diver_> if*[21:39:08] <Per_Vers> Yes, it writes something. But it*s hard to distinguish as it writes so many things.[21:39:45] <Per_Vers> KERN: wlan_control: 9235, 76[21:40:14] <diver_> then try to filter some more first[21:40:19] <Per_Vers> KERN: ieee80211_notify_scan_done[21:40:32] <Per_Vers> that sort of thing.[21:41:10] <diver_> just add "-ve eee80211_notify_scan_done" to get rid of it[21:42:18] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[21:42:45] <diver_> Per_Vers: https://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/atheroswifi_wpa2[21:46:59] <Per_Vers> what should I add that line to? It*s hard to keep typing all these commands on the Haiku box. It is not the one on IRC.[21:48:13] <diver_> you don't need to retype it all the time, you can just hit up arrow[21:48:44] <diver_> tail -F /var/log/syslog | grep -ve scan_task -ve ieee80211_ref_node -ve probe_resp -ve bintval -ve eee80211_notify_scan_done[21:49:42] *** hamishm_ has joined #haiku[21:50:48] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[21:51:16] *** hamishm has quit IRC[21:52:08] *** abhiin1947 has quit IRC[21:52:31] *** DaaT has quit IRC[21:52:42] <Per_Vers> typing it the first time is hard enough... Wow, where did everyting go?[21:54:20] <diver_> you could have copied repeatable lines from syslog to avoid typing everything[21:54:29] <Per_Vers> I see lots of KERN... What are we looking for again?[21:55:03] <diver_> I don't know as I've never used wifi in Haiku ;-P[21:56:07] <Per_Vers> even the arrow keys don*t work. They write ABCD.[21:56:49] <diver_> erm... you have to interrupt tail with Ctrl+C before using arrow[21:57:39] <diver_> but If wpa_supplicant writes anything to syslog when it tries to connect to your network this could be a starting point of further investigation[21:58:48] <Per_Vers> Shall I just copy the syslog?[21:59:36] <diver_> but aren't we already have it?[22:00:20] <Per_Vers> Then what?[22:01:07] <diver_> we are looking for what wpa_supplicant writes to syslog[22:01:11] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:01:35] *** Forca has quit IRC[22:01:38] <diver_> but first we need to calm down wifi driver a bit[22:02:55] <diver_> after that you can execute ifconfig <device> join net name password in the second terminal and see if something relevant appears in tail -F output[22:04:37] <Per_Vers> Right. I have 2 terminal windows; Terminal 1 and Terminal 2. What do I do with each?[22:05:25] <diver_> 1. tail -F /var/log/syslog | grep -ve scan_task -ve ieee80211_ref_node -ve probe_resp -ve bintval -ve eee80211_notify_scan_done[22:05:25] <diver_> 2. ifconfig <device> join net name password[22:05:55] <Per_Vers> Should i Control+C in both of them first?[22:06:12] <Per_Vers> theyre flooding now.[22:06:17] <diver_> indeed[22:06:52] *** jayrulez has quit IRC[22:09:13] *** hamishm_ is now known as hamishm[22:10:33] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[22:10:54] <Per_Vers> done. 2 did not give any message, it just gave me a new prompt.[22:11:01] <Per_Vers> 1 is still flooding.[22:11:58] <diver_> sorry, I have to go now[22:12:06] * diver_ is now away[22:12:27] *** Per_Vers has left #haiku[22:15:09] *** vivek_h has quit IRC[22:18:45] *** alexixor has joined #haiku[22:19:21] *** MatthewH12 has joined #haiku[22:24:02] *** HeTo_ has joined #haiku[22:24:35] *** HeTo has quit IRC[22:24:46] *** HeTo_ is now known as HeTo[22:27:38] *** stef__ has joined #haiku[22:27:40] *** GeekShad1w has joined #haiku[22:27:42] *** cnuke_ has joined #haiku[22:28:05] *** Cenbe_ has joined #haiku[22:28:33] *** Negr0_VoP2P has quit IRC[22:31:00] *** stef has quit IRC[22:31:01] *** GeekShadow has quit IRC[22:31:01] *** cnuke has quit IRC[22:31:02] *** _marc` has quit IRC[22:31:04] *** FrStm has quit IRC[22:31:05] *** jljusten has quit IRC[22:31:05] *** Cenbe has quit IRC[22:31:06] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[22:31:09] *** nathanhi has quit IRC[22:31:25] *** __marc` has joined #haiku[22:31:35] *** FrStm has joined #haiku[22:31:45] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[22:32:15] *** Guest88519 has joined #haiku[22:32:37] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:33:04] *** Negr0_VoP2P has joined #haiku[22:33:08] *** Ingenu has left #haiku[22:33:13] *** jljusten has joined #haiku[22:33:25] *** brobosti1on has joined #haiku[22:33:46] *** budrys has quit IRC[22:34:34] *** brobosti1on has quit IRC[22:34:34] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[22:34:47] *** LjL has quit IRC[22:34:54] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[22:35:56] <CIA-37> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev43939 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=4185aa0 :[22:35:56] <CIA-37> common header: Add work in progress DisplayPort header[22:35:56] <CIA-37> * Obtained via DportV1.1.pdf[22:35:56] <CIA-37> * Written based on my Xorg membership[22:36:11] *** LjL has joined #haiku[22:37:36] *** Guest88519 has quit IRC[22:37:36] *** Guest88519 has joined #haiku[22:37:37] <CIA-37> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev43940 http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=30d5507 : dp_raw common: Style fix, no change.[22:37:57] *** Guest88519 is now known as nathanhi[22:40:22] *** kcj has joined #haiku[22:43:20] *** budrys has joined #haiku[22:44:33] *** jstressman has quit IRC[22:47:25] *** Zevs_ has joined #haiku[22:52:42] *** arjen has quit IRC[22:52:49] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[22:56:25] *** rkbm has quit IRC[22:56:58] *** __marc` has quit IRC[23:03:06] *** rkbm has joined #haiku[23:03:19] *** __marc` has joined #haiku[23:07:05] *** Zevs_ has left #haiku[23:10:34] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[23:13:13] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[23:22:48] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[23:23:00] *** HaikuUser is now known as Icer_[23:24:07] *** Icer_ has quit IRC[23:37:00] *** luko has joined #haiku[23:37:26] *** luko has quit IRC[23:37:32] *** luko has joined #haiku[23:48:10] *** luko has quit IRC[23:48:50] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[23:50:28] *** Carbamide has quit IRC[23:52:35] *** jayrulez has joined #haiku