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[01:31:38] <mmadia> 'evening
[01:32:14] <looncraz> yup
[01:32:25] <looncraz> ;-)
[01:32:45] <looncraz> Who's leg do I have to hump to get a patch applied around here?
[01:33:29] <mmadia> ... depends on what the patch is.
[01:33:37] <mmadia> *for
[01:34:18] <looncraz> app_server, aleady made a ticket, already made changes for code style, already received feedback from Stippi and AxelD.. then nothing...
[01:34:31] <looncraz> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/7445
[01:35:32] <looncraz> Probably have to ping'em on the mailing list, Axel was around just this morning...
[01:35:47] <mmadia> on IRC or ..?
[01:36:26] <looncraz> freelists
[01:37:02] <looncraz> not sure I've seen him on a chat in recent memory...
[01:37:07] <stpere> mmadia: ?
[01:37:34] <stpere> is there someone of my ignore list or..? :)
[01:37:37] <stpere> on*
[01:38:06] <mmadia> stpere?
[01:38:30] <looncraz> am I being ignored??  That would be funny...
[01:38:41] <mmadia> no, i went to grab a beer ;)
[01:38:59] <mmadia> ... i am human, after all :P
[01:39:04] <stpere> lol
[01:39:15] <looncraz> mmadia I was referring to stpere's comment, seems he no see me...
[01:39:28] <looncraz> stpere u c me?
[01:40:43] <mmadia> yeah, i was gonna say that axel rarely comes onto IRC.
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[01:41:13] <looncraz> stippi used to come around often though, but I 'spose no more...
[01:44:16] <mmadia> once in a while, he'll pop on.
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[01:50:44] <AlienSoldier> they have less time
[01:51:01] <AlienSoldier> i prefer to see them cut time in communication than in coding
[01:54:36] <looncraz> yup, just hoping the patch will be in alpha 3 / next official build
[01:54:45] <OmniMancer> i prefer to see them have more time :P
[01:55:04] <looncraz> important for testing of new decorators
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[01:56:56] <mmadia> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/7482
[02:06:14] <mmadia> IMO, that's a huge help.
[02:08:13] <looncraz> hmm.. any way to get a random number at compile time?
[02:08:25] <looncraz> it can be static for that build, but random vs other ubilds
[02:09:36] <mmadia> time since epoc in seconds / current second   ?
[02:10:04] <looncraz> how to do that during compilation?
[02:10:29] <looncraz> #define SOME_RANDOM ---
[02:11:25] <looncraz> n'er mind, I'll google it..  Gotta run!
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[02:31:10] <OmniMancer> I am more worried about why he needs it...
[02:31:30] <OmniMancer> also he could have that passed on the command line as a -D
[02:32:22] * mmadia shrugs
[02:45:09] <jrabbit> woot
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[03:29:29] <IIsi50MHz> Man, PaperPlane-game.com needs a Haiku version :-D
[03:29:58] <IIsi50MHz> It's great if you have a gamepad that is or can emulate an xbox360 controller.
[03:30:08] <IIsi50MHz> Much harder with keyboard.
[03:31:23] <jrabbit> finished portal 2 coop
[03:33:07] <IIsi50MHz> Wish PaperPlane multiplayer were enabled. Wonder what it'd be like...
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[04:30:45] <vision2> anybody seen barret around ?
[04:30:59] * vision2 looks around
[04:31:19] <augiedoggie> he's on almost every day
[04:31:33] <vision2> must have missed him
[04:31:39] * vision2 shakes head
[04:32:10] <vision2> GSOC has what looks to be a strong group
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[04:38:21] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1531 /haikuports/trunk/dev-vcs/subversion/subversion-1.6.15.bep: Cleaned up directories for subversion.
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[05:07:20] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1532 /haikuports/trunk/dev-vcs/subversion/subversion-1.6.15.bep: Added a test section for subversion.
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[12:33:28] <techno19> i hadn't applied in GSoC, can i still contribute?
[12:35:29] <techno19> any mentors here for projects requiring python?
[12:35:32] <techno19> ??
[12:36:43] <tqh> no you need to apply before the deadlines
[12:37:35] <techno19> if the proj has not been given to any stud..
[12:37:35] <Ingenu> well you can contribute to Haiku even outside of GSoC
[12:37:51] <Ingenu> that would be for free though
[12:38:17] <techno19> free is nt a prob.. :)
[12:38:37] <techno19> just needed a grasp of wat the proj is abt..!!
[12:39:02] <tqh> anyone can contribute if they do it for free. But for the OS and included apps it's almost only C++
[12:39:03] <techno19> nthing much understandable frm the link:  http://www.haiku-os.org/community/gsoc/2011/ideas
[12:39:08] <Ingenu> mmh as I'm mostly lurking around here, I can't help much, there should be more people live in the channel later
[12:40:04] <techno19> anyones name u knw?? so i dnt disturb ppl again and again..
[12:40:27] <tqh> easiest way to start working on Haiku is trying to build Haiku yourself and then start fixing things you find can be improved.
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[17:22:57] <MuteClown> hey
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[17:25:09] <humdinger> hi
[17:27:06] <mmadia> 'lo.
[17:28:43] <MuteClown> After seeing how great haiku feels, and the real drive behind it to develop i was hoping to get programming on it. What are some recommended IDE/Text Editors to use with haiku?
[17:29:09] <humdinger> MuteClown: That would be pretty much Pe as editor.
[17:29:17] <humdinger> And Paladin as IDE.
[17:29:37] <MuteClown> i saw Pe, id paladin instealled in the release?
[17:29:47] <humdinger> It's an optional package.
[17:29:58] <humdinger> it uses it's own Pe-based editor.
[17:30:32] <mmadia> if you're using R1/A2, it's better to use a nightly image.
[17:31:00] <humdinger> go to Terminal and enter "installoptionalpackage Paladin"
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[17:31:20] <threecreepio> You can get gvim.. it, mostly works..
[17:31:39] <MuteClown> emacs?
[17:31:56] <threecreepio> not sure.
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[17:32:56] <MuteClown> anyone used FPC/Lazarus, i do sometimes use Pascal; wondering how well it works on haiku
[17:34:57] <humdinger> At least there's some Pascal thing at haikuware: http://haikuware.com/directory/view-details/development/language/free-pascal
[17:35:42] <MuteClown> cheers
[17:35:50] <humdinger> Then I see this: http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_Haiku
[17:36:09] <humdinger> needs Qt it seems
[17:39:30] <MuteClown> i normally just use FPC without lazarus, since i dod a lot of OpenGL stuff. No real need for the RAD stuff.
[17:43:57] <Barrett> just an idea...would be cool to have pascal language bindings for the Haiku's api : )
[17:44:45] <umccullough> object pascale
[17:44:47] <umccullough> pascal
[17:44:54] <umccullough> that's one of the few things i did actually learn :)
[17:45:08] <umccullough> and forgot
[17:45:15] <MuteClown> lol
[17:45:25] <umccullough> highschool was a long time ago :P
[17:45:58] <MuteClown> object pascal is my language of choice, even though i learned C++ first. I just work faster in Object Pascal compared.
[17:46:25] <umccullough> now, if we had c#/mono bindings... i'd be in good shape ;)
[17:46:40] <MuteClown> once i'm more comfortable using haiku it will be something ill looking into making some bindings for the API
[17:46:41] <umccullough> we need BeAPI#
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[17:46:54] <MuteClown> i dislike mono
[17:46:58] <MuteClown> just me
[17:46:59] <umccullough> ditto
[17:47:04] <umccullough> but c# isn't horrible
[17:47:09] <umccullough> as a language
[17:48:51] <MuteClown> how well documented is the haiku API, haven't looked at it much
[17:49:05] <threecreepio> i have mixed feelings about c#, but sure would prefer it to pascal.. :)
[17:49:19] <MuteClown> lol
[17:50:04] <umccullough> MuteClown, there's the bebook
[17:50:27] <umccullough> and then there's our partial haikubook
[17:50:29] <umccullough> http://api.haiku-os.org/
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[17:50:44] <umccullough> fallback to bebook whenever necessary :P
[17:50:53] <MuteClown> cheers
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[17:59:23] <mmadia> yes, that would be a nice TODO task
[18:17:07] <tqh> umccullough, bah, we just need llvm and then create Haiku language ;)
[18:17:27] <umccullough> what would haiku's language look like? :)
[18:17:32] <umccullough> probably c++ :D
[18:18:08] <tqh> D maybe :)
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[18:22:57] <zizban> BASIC! oh wait, never mind.
[18:23:12] <umccullough> YaB already exists? :)
[18:23:41] <zizban> Ah, true.
[18:25:44] <tqh> llvm, could probably compile code from different languages to native, which would be awesome.
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[18:51:37] <tqh> Interesting that ArcLinux wiki has a good guide to getting Haiku from git. Seems like nice guys.
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[19:42:54] <humdinger> Anyone else experiencing that some avi lose their audio after 15 minutes under MediaPlayer.
[19:43:05] <humdinger> Works fine with VLC and under ubuntu
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[19:45:40] <matthias19> moin
[19:45:50] <humdinger> hullo
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[20:02:01] <ARM_> hiho, wtf? http://pastebin.com/yA4up5nA
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[20:20:41] <humdinger> ARM_: Does doing a LC_ALL=C before work?
[20:21:07] <ARM_> mmadia already help me
[20:21:22] <ARM_> (0:07:08) mmadia:   export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"
[20:21:23] <humdinger> oh, cool. what's the answer then?
[20:21:25] <humdinger> ah
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[21:43:34] <MuteClown> is there a place i can just download the haiku API headers?? And after some google searches looked like at one point some of the classes have been done for FreePascal, any chance there is a download for these?
[21:44:17] <|PulkoMandy|> you can likely checkout the headers only from svn
[21:44:24] <|PulkoMandy|> I don't think we have another way
[21:44:47] <|PulkoMandy|> as for freepascal, you'd have to ask oco, not sure if he's around however
[21:46:44] <MuteClown> ok cheers
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[22:39:58] <MuteClown> arg haiku freezes on loading
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[23:04:07] <IIsi50MHz> Try safe mode?
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[23:42:48] <matthias19> good night
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