April 29, 2011 
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April 29, 2011 [00:05:36] *** peaceZ has joined #haiku[00:05:41] <peaceZ> hello all[00:06:22] <CIA-81> Haiku: anevilyak * r41291 /haiku/trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs):[00:06:22] <CIA-81> Patch by Atis Elsts from GSoC 2010 that was overlooked.[00:07:12] <peaceZ> i downloaded firefox from haikuware i unzipped in a folder, but when i try to launch the bin i just get a message as all the .so files are missing, anyway they are in the same folder , how and where to install it then ?[00:07:28] <peaceZ> i use the latest nightly build of haiku[00:07:36] <DaaT> peaceZ: have you tried webpositive?[00:07:52] <peaceZ> can download from haikuware too ?[00:07:58] *** Jessica_lily has joined #haiku[00:08:10] <peaceZ> i will chexk it then[00:08:15] <DaaT> open a terminal and type ... (i think) installoptionalpackage -l[00:10:45] <AlienSoldier> peaceZ be sure to get one of the hybrid or webpositive won't work as it's compiled with GCC4[00:10:49] *** elliottcable is now known as ec|detached[00:11:05] <DaaT> thx AlienSoldier :)[00:11:48] <peaceZ> yes it is an hybrid[00:12:06] <peaceZ> after install the optional package what does it change ?[00:12:19] <peaceZ> i still don't see webpositive in the menu[00:13:32] <DaaT> try looking in /boot/apps[00:13:49] <DaaT> (sorry, unable to use Haiku atm)[00:14:31] <AlienSoldier> it should appear in the app menu[00:15:35] <AlienSoldier> check what appeared in the terminal to know if it installed properly[00:25:10] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[00:25:40] <peaceZ> looks like no error in the terminal , but no mention about webpositive[00:26:20] <Frek> and you did installoptionalpackage -i webpositive ?[00:26:25] <peaceZ> sorry i just saw in the messages i will search for it now[00:26:39] <peaceZ> no[00:26:50] <peaceZ> ha ok i understand now[00:26:53] <peaceZ> thanks[00:27:10] <Frek> np[00:27:59] <Frek> the -i isn't necessary btw[00:28:57] <peaceZ> enable to resolve host address, looks like i have a networking problem[00:29:21] <AlienSoldier> possible, try to wget a file to see if it work[00:30:57] <peaceZ> when i try to open the network settings it is not working , it hang up with an error message[00:31:44] <peaceZ> the error message is not clear about the real problem[00:33:07] <AlienSoldier> no idea about this[00:34:37] <peaceZ> normally it is working yet ?[00:37:10] <peaceZ> i am running haiku in vbox[00:37:26] <peaceZ> the network setting i set on LAN[00:39:58] <peaceZ> NAT sorry :s[00:41:46] <peaceZ> thanks all for your help, time to sleep now, i will come back tomorrow[00:41:55] <peaceZ> bye[00:41:58] *** peaceZ has quit IRC[00:46:24] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:47:14] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[00:48:16] <DaaT> hey mmadia, how goes?[00:48:29] <mmadia> decent, just got in. yourself?[00:50:05] <DaaT> good thanks[00:50:14] <DaaT> no work tomorrow, so better :)[00:50:55] <mmadia> \o/[00:51:08] <DaaT> yay[00:51:13] <DaaT> :)[00:53:33] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[01:00:52] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[01:02:52] *** impy has quit IRC[01:05:09] *** heroid has joined #haiku[01:05:49] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[01:11:55] *** GeekShadow has quit IRC[01:16:00] *** helf has quit IRC[01:18:21] *** GeekShadow has joined #haiku[01:19:35] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[01:22:32] *** ec|detached is now known as elliottcable[01:24:50] *** heroid has quit IRC[01:30:34] *** looncraz has joined #haiku[01:35:42] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[01:35:50] *** _marc` has quit IRC[01:36:02] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[01:39:51] *** ukev has quit IRC[01:45:39] *** impy has joined #haiku[01:49:47] *** looncraz has quit IRC[01:51:43] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[01:52:12] *** shanxS has quit IRC[01:52:19] *** Pinaraf has quit IRC[01:54:08] *** amjith_ has joined #haiku[01:54:30] *** ziomatto 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has quit IRC[10:25:14] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[10:31:09] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[10:52:39] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[10:56:20] *** TomManAway is now known as TomMan81[11:00:10] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[11:04:13] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[11:07:45] *** The123king has joined #haiku[11:15:44] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[11:19:33] <The123king> I'm looking for some form of standalone USB drivers/libraries. Any hints? I know it's off-topic :S[11:20:52] *** phoudoin has quit IRC[11:21:11] <vooshy> The123king: lol no-one's spoke for 10 hours and you think its off-topic :D[11:21:56] <The123king> O_o Is it that dead in here?[11:22:17] <vooshy> The123king: what kind of thing you looking for?[11:22:49] <vooshy> The123king: not that dead - but there is a kind of point when lots of people are sleeping across the world[11:24:04] <The123king> A friend is trying to intergrate USB HID into a bootloader[11:24:30] <The123king> XOSL to be exact[11:26:50] <vooshy> The123king: no expert but maybe looking at http://www.diolan.com/pic/bootloader.html might help[11:28:25] <vooshy> i used to use XOSL as my bootloader - but these days i use Plop[11:45:28] *** techno19 has joined #haiku[11:55:59] *** varta has quit IRC[12:04:26] *** techno19 has left #haiku[12:11:37] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[12:23:24] *** Barrett has quit IRC[12:23:26] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[12:28:50] *** GeekShadow has joined #haiku[12:28:59] *** ereslibre_laptop has joined #haiku[12:29:00] *** ereslibre_laptop has joined #haiku[12:31:46] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[12:38:27] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[12:45:13] *** Ingenu_ has joined #haiku[12:47:28] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[12:47:35] *** Ingenu_ is now known as Ingenu[12:49:40] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[12:56:49] <DaaT> bork mmu_man[12:56:50] <DaaT> how goes?[13:18:04] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[13:25:39] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[13:28:19] <mmu_man> tired[13:28:55] <DaaT> too much kung-fu?[13:34:54] *** MAX2 has joined #haiku[13:39:19] *** DaaT has quit IRC[13:54:15] *** dimonov has quit IRC[14:07:24] *** Minox has joined #haiku[14:11:30] *** Minox has quit IRC[14:12:49] *** Nozy has left #haiku[14:27:56] *** kieselsteini has quit IRC[14:45:05] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[14:47:44] *** marshan has joined #haiku[14:51:58] *** marshan has quit IRC[14:56:00] *** negusnyul_ has joined #haiku[14:56:31] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[15:01:16] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[15:05:14] *** adominguez has quit IRC[15:08:27] *** PasNox_ has quit IRC[15:19:14] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[18:19:45] *** echelog has joined #haiku[18:20:00] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[18:20:07] *** Mazon has joined #haiku[18:21:23] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[18:21:49] *** mmadia has quit IRC[18:47:17] *** auronandace has quit IRC[18:52:13] *** phoudoin has joined #haiku[18:52:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phoudoin[18:56:51] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[18:59:16] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:59:16] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[18:59:24] <vooshy> hi - any dev's about?[18:59:25] *** jalopeura has joined #haiku[19:01:15] <jalopeura> Does Vision have audio alerts?[19:01:15] <vooshy> need someone to explain what the BMediaRoster is/does[19:01:15] <humdinger> jalopeura: Look into Sounds preferences.[19:01:15] <jalopeura> Thanks[19:01:15] <humdinger> jalopeura: Only Nick mention, I think[19:03:58] <jalopeura> vooshy: Have you looked at the BeBook?[19:04:12] <jalopeura> vooshy: I just did, but it's not very clear at a glance.[19:04:23] <jalopeura> vooshy: Perhaps a more thorough reading...[19:05:12] *** Jessica_lily has joined #haiku[19:05:40] <vooshy> jalopeura: i was looking for a brief overview but guess i will be reading the bebook instead[19:06:21] <vooshy> jalopeura: hard to report a bug on something you dont understand.[19:06:30] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[19:06:38] <phoudoin> BMediaRoster ?[19:06:40] <jalopeura> vooshy: Sorry, I've nver used it. I just checked quickly, but like I said, it's not immediately obvious.[19:07:28] <phoudoin> basicly, it's a manger of media *nodes*, either published by running apps or dormant in add-ons[19:07:34] <phoudoin> manager, sorry[19:09:00] <phoudoin> it does not connect them or even synchronize them, eah media nodes *talk* together via BMessage (for control command) and BBuffer (for dataflow)[19:09:28] <vooshy> phoudoin: so for like an emulator running through sdl would i be expecting just sound as a node or both sound and video?[19:10:13] <phoudoin> But it's the object with which you can find media nodes (system mixer, default input audio, video, default output audio, video, a default time source too)[19:10:18] <jalopeura> Hm, I seem to have lost audio when I updated to r41256[19:11:01] <phoudoin> for sdl mixer (it's about that, right?), I would indeed user BMediaRoster to get access to default system mixer node.[19:11:21] <phoudoin> wait... no.[19:11:52] <phoudoin> well, it depends of what sdl mixer can and have to do.[19:12:28] <vooshy> phoudoin: ok i lay out my problem - spent last few days compiling zsnes for haiku - it works but kills itself after 2 minutes with an error[19:12:53] <jalopeura> Wait, I think I muted the sound from XP, and my computer has no physical controls. (It's an Asus Eee.)[19:13:07] <jalopeura> So I may have to reboot into Windows to turn the volume back on.[19:13:07] <vooshy> phoudoin: BMediaRoster::ReleaseNode, trying to release reference counting disabled timesource, node 3, port 520329, team 29970 Segmentation violation[19:13:32] <phoudoin> if it's only audio flow mix and routing, it can try to reuse Haiku system mixer media node, control it via the BParameterWeb stuff, and connect sdl out and input via sdl<->media kit nodes to write.[19:15:10] <phoudoin> vooshy: my best guess is that one node was already released in your back and you still try to access it to... release it ? ;-)[19:15:22] *** jalopeura has quit IRC[19:16:42] <phoudoin> i'm sorry vooshy, I was thinking you had some overview question about Media Kit. For actual issue, it will take me far more time, and I'm not that fluent in media kit. Try to catch stippi (stephan assmus) or ask on haiku-development[19:16:56] <phoudoin> I should run back home now.[19:16:58] <phoudoin> bye[19:17:04] *** phoudoin has quit IRC[19:17:23] <CIA-81> Haiku: humdinger * r41292 /haiku/trunk/ (243 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)[19:17:23] <CIA-81> * Added all yet missing flags (245 all in all) plus some more optimizations.[19:17:23] <CIA-81> * GS, KY and PN all share the same flag, because I'm too lazy to add their[19:17:23] <CIA-81> specific code of arms, which one wouldn't recognize in the small flag[19:17:23] <CIA-81> anyway... At least every country is now listed in CountryFlags.rdef, so[19:17:24] <CIA-81> anyone can improve flags and simply replace the rdef data there.[19:17:25] <CIA-81> * Added newly generated CountryFlags.rdef[19:21:15] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[19:22:13] *** jalopeura has joined #haiku[19:23:10] <jalopeura> Hooray, sound again![19:23:18] <humdinger> beep![19:27:30] *** duvjones has quit IRC[19:31:34] *** TomManAway is now known as TomMan81[19:32:07] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[19:33:21] *** [r4] has quit IRC[19:34:38] *** elliottcable is now known as ec|detached[19:37:05] *** vikash_anand has joined #haiku[19:37:49] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[19:40:03] <vikash_anand> hi i am a 2nd year computer science student............enthusiastic about open source technologies[19:40:50] <vikash_anand> i have fair knowledge of c,c++ and java....can anybody guide me , how can i contribute towards the haiku project[19:41:34] <pulkomandy> first step is to install Haiku and try it out :)[19:41:38] <humdinger> vikash_anand: Welcome![19:41:45] <humdinger> and have a look at http://www.haiku-os.org/development/getting-started[19:41:59] <pulkomandy> humdinger: thanks for the work on flags btw :)[19:42:21] <humdinger> pulkomandy: that was quite some work :)[19:42:56] <vikash_anand> ya...i hav already looked at that page....so can u tell me how much knowledge is required to contribute to the project[19:42:58] <pulkomandy> yes, the conversion I did was quite long and boring too, that's why I didn't finish cleaning them up[19:43:09] <GeneralMaximus> hey vikash_anand[19:43:09] <pulkomandy> vikash_anand: depends on what you want to do[19:43:14] <humdinger> pulkomandy: I was wondering... Does it make sense to show more languages in the first tab of Locale prefs than there are translations available?[19:43:27] <GeneralMaximus> vikash_anand: if i may ask, do you happen to use Linux?[19:43:50] <vikash_anand> ya presently i am using ubuntu 10.10[19:43:54] <pulkomandy> for example you can translate haiku in your own language, this doesn't need skills besides knowing how to use a keyboard[19:44:19] <pulkomandy> or you can do more complicated stuff like writing drivers for some devices[19:44:25] <pulkomandy> and a whole lot of things in between[19:44:27] <vikash_anand> ok.[19:44:42] <GeneralMaximus> vikash_anand: cool. i'm guessing you use GCC to write code?[19:44:47] <GeneralMaximus> err, compile.[19:44:56] <vikash_anand> yes[19:44:58] <pulkomandy> humdinger: there is no way to know the list of languages that may be available for any app, including 3rd party ones[19:45:15] <humdinger> vikash_anand: Best install Haiku, set up a working development environment and see what you would like to fix.[19:45:17] <pulkomandy> so I went for all of them[19:45:22] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[19:46:25] <humdinger> pulkomandy: I see... It's just a bit overwhelming to have all these languages to choose from when there are only a dozen or so available for the system...[19:46:39] <vikash_anand> ya... i have plans to install haiku[19:46:54] <pulkomandy> humdinger: yes... maybe a query for catkey files then ?[19:47:19] <humdinger> right. even 3rd party apps would supply those.[19:47:59] <humdinger> but that may delay the Locale window to build the list.[19:48:34] <GeneralMaximus> vikash_anand: cool. does your college use GCC to teach you? or do they use that ancient Turbo C++ thing?[19:49:28] <vikash_anand> actually our college still uses turbo c++.....but i have been using gcc[19:50:00] <GeneralMaximus> vikash_anand: hehe, i've suffered through that crap[19:50:27] *** ereslibre_desk has quit IRC[19:50:47] <vikash_anand> GeneralMaximus : me too....[19:51:32] <GeneralMaximus> vikash_anand: i was just curious because most Indian college guys i see online know only about Turbo C++ :p[19:51:33] <pulkomandy> there are compilers much worse than Turbo C++...[19:51:50] <GeneralMaximus> pulkomandy: yeah, but we're talking Turbo C++ 2 here. from 1992 :p[19:51:56] <GeneralMaximus> or was it 3?[19:52:07] <pulkomandy> I had to use a compiler for some DSP from TI, not even handling #include properly[19:52:14] <GeneralMaximus> ouch[19:52:35] <pulkomandy> fortunately it was a small project :)[19:54:12] <vikash_anand> GeneralMaximus: we have a linux users group in our college.....a small group of people enthusiastic about open source.[19:54:24] <GeneralMaximus> vikash_anand: where are you from?[19:54:43] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[19:55:02] <vikash_anand> GeneralMaximus: In my first year my seniors advised me to go for gcc. It was through them i came to know about gcc[19:55:15] <humdinger> AboutSystem gets some info from .OptionalPackageDescription of packages, right?[19:55:38] <vikash_anand> I am studying computer science at manipal institute of technology, manipal india[19:56:04] * GeneralMaximus was lucky he started with Bloodshed C++ back when it was actively developed[19:56:36] <GeneralMaximus> vikash_anand: ah, cool.[19:56:47] * GeneralMaximus feels old now[19:57:10] <humdinger> you mean wise and experienced :)[19:57:33] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[19:57:52] <GeneralMaximus> wise? i wish :p[19:58:03] *** shanxS has quit IRC[19:58:14] <humdinger> Anyway, ABoutSystem: Localising these OptionalPackage entries is not possible currently, right?[19:59:46] *** nielx has joined #haiku[19:59:50] <nielx> hola[20:00:01] <humdinger> oi nielx[20:00:45] <Minox> yay DS9[20:07:54] <jrabbit> I forget do we have ruby yet?[20:08:04] <jrabbit> maybe I'll look at that today[20:10:36] *** ec|detached is now known as elliottcable[20:10:58] <jrabbit> oh we do nifty[20:11:47] *** JonathanThompson has joined #haiku[20:12:08] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[20:17:38] <jrabbit> is there a haiku equivalent to pbpaste?[20:22:03] *** vikash_anand has quit IRC[20:22:14] <vooshy> pbpaste is?[20:24:52] <GeneralMaximus> vooshy: commandline tool to paste clipboard contents to stdout[20:24:58] <GeneralMaximus> vooshy: or pipe it somewhere else[20:25:01] <GeneralMaximus> vooshy: on OS X[20:25:09] <GeneralMaximus> you use pbcopy to copy[20:31:38] <jrabbit> this is something I can probably do with my shitty c knowlege :3[20:38:02] *** humdinger has quit IRC[20:39:52] *** impy has quit IRC[20:41:13] *** xliebex has joined #haiku[20:41:28] *** Jessica_lily has quit IRC[20:51:40] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[20:52:03] <DaaT> howdy[20:53:55] <pulkomandy> jrabbit: I'd expect this to be doable from the hey command maybe[20:54:08] <pulkomandy> but not sure how[20:58:33] *** vikash_anand has joined #haiku[20:59:44] *** vikash_anand has quit IRC[21:03:27] <jrabbit> where is hey documented?[21:05:23] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1529 /haikuports/trunk/haiku-apps/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Initial bep files for caya.[21:06:09] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1530 /haikuports/trunk/packs/optionalpackages/optionalpackages-0.6-gcc2.bep: Moved cmake build up in the list, as it is required to build some of the optional packages.[21:09:04] <jrabbit> http://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/BClipboard_Overview.html#BClipboard_Overview_Writing_To_The_Clipboard[21:09:07] <jrabbit> hm[21:11:16] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[21:11:31] *** [r4] has quit IRC[21:19:34] *** impy has joined #haiku[21:21:48] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[21:23:52] *** nielx has quit IRC[21:26:33] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[21:28:56] *** jalopeura has quit IRC[21:31:18] <jrabbit> Awesome got a git daemon running to push hacks into[21:38:42] *** mmadia has quit IRC[21:41:35] *** TomMan81 is now known as TomManAway[22:02:19] *** TMM has joined #haiku[22:04:26] *** elliottcable is now known as ec|detached[22:11:33] *** zz_Kaimei is now known as Kaimei[22:12:57] *** ec|detached is now known as elliottcable[22:30:57] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[22:33:17] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[22:35:17] *** Cobi has quit IRC[22:38:14] *** DaaT has quit IRC[22:38:58] *** Cobi has joined #haiku[22:46:31] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[22:53:08] *** xliebex has quit IRC[22:56:10] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[22:57:10] *** jstressman has left #haiku[22:59:23] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[22:59:46] *** heroid has quit IRC[23:00:32] <CIA-81> Haiku: humdinger * r41293 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/aboutsystem/AboutSystem.cpp: User taos made the copyrights entries a bit more consistent, e.g. endings with full stops, using single spaces, removing unneeded spaces, shortening year ranges. 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