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[00:00:42] <johnny_b> something in binary format which can run on haiku
[00:01:25] <OmniMancer1> but what in binary format?
[00:01:57] <AmineKhaldi> llvm-gcc ? dragonegg ? clang ?
[00:02:04] <johnny_b> llvm+clang
[00:02:16] <OmniMancer1> okay
[00:02:26] <OmniMancer1> do you want all the libraries?
[00:02:58] <johnny_b> everything what's needed
[00:03:12] <OmniMancer1> needed for what
[00:04:11] <johnny_b> for compiling my stuff w/ clang+llvm on haiku
[00:04:19] <OmniMancer1> okay
[00:04:39] <OmniMancer1> then my original assumption is correct, you want clang binaries
[00:05:13] <johnny_b> phew :)
[00:05:53] <OmniMancer1> I can compile it for you if you like
[00:06:45] <johnny_b> that'd be great, thank you
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[00:08:55] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1518 /haikuports/trunk/ (119 files in 73 dirs): Updated several .bep files to use finddir.
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[00:15:27] <johnny_b> night guys
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[00:35:21] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1519 /haikuports/trunk/ (133 files in 77 dirs): Should have been finddir B_COMMON_DIRECTORY, not findir B_COMMON_BIN_DIRECTORY... this should fix those typos.
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[01:36:11] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1520 /haikuports/trunk/dev-util/ctags/ctags-5.8.bep: Cleaned up directories for ctags.
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[01:52:19] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1521 /haikuports/trunk/ (142 files in 88 dirs): Updated several more .bep files to use finddir to locate the prefix directory.
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[02:18:34] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1522 /haikuports/trunk/ (28 files in 14 dirs): Changed several calls for /boot/common/bin to use finddir.
[02:20:43] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1523 /haikuports/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Initial addition of bullet library.
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[02:48:54] <amdusbpatch> is mmlr around ? or can someone help me with applying a patch ?
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[03:28:24] <AMDUSB> Could use some help I think I biffed the patch
[03:28:48] <AMDUSB> http://pastebin.com/CaLW9VSa
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[03:43:14] <{V}> AMDUSB, is that in your 'working' copy or is that an checkout without modifications?
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[03:45:19] <{V}> if the first, where can we see your modifications ?
[03:59:23] <AMDUSB> Sorry thats in my working copy, How do I do a check out on the diff ?
[03:59:33] <AMDUSB> http://pastebin.com/CaLW9VSa
[04:03:22] <AMDUSB> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/5551#comment:16
[04:03:27] <AMDUSB> thats the link to the patch
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[08:19:26] <johnny_b> hi
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[08:26:50] <DelphiWorld> hi guys !
[08:26:57] <DelphiWorld> is Haiku linux based?
[08:27:13] <kPb_in> DelphiWorld: No.
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[08:27:33] <DelphiWorld> kPb_in: they do there own kernel?
[08:27:41] <kPb_in> Yes
[08:28:02] <DelphiWorld> kPb_in: ok, a silly question :P
[08:28:09] <DelphiWorld> any thinking about blind users to try out Haiku ?
[08:31:01] * DelphiWorld is blind and would be glad to support accessibility testing
[08:35:35] <DelphiWorld> Haiku developers please contact me in PM.
[08:36:03] <johnny_b> DelphiWorld: it's very nice of you
[08:36:24] <DelphiWorld> thank you johnny_b
[08:36:30] <johnny_b> unfortunately i can't help you in your accessibility question
[08:36:44] <DelphiWorld> johnny_b: why?
[08:36:54] <DelphiWorld> johnny_b: let make kPb_in ready to use for blind users
[08:37:12] <johnny_b> because i'm a newbie haiku user
[08:37:27] <DelphiWorld> lol johnny_b :D
[08:37:31] <DelphiWorld> johnny_b: so both we are
[08:37:37] <johnny_b> yep :)
[08:37:52] <johnny_b> maybe you should write on the haiku-dev mailing list
[08:39:27] <DelphiWorld> johnny_b: good suggestion
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[08:43:37] <DelphiWorld> Alam_Squeeze: ping
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[08:49:11] <Alam_Squeeze> DelphiWorld: no route to person
[08:49:22] <DelphiWorld> Alam_Squeeze: lol :P
[08:49:35] <DelphiWorld> Alam_Squeeze: but that's not your reply... should be your router :-)
[08:49:57] <DelphiWorld> Alam_Squeeze: freeswitch didn't use it allready?
[08:50:05] <DelphiWorld> Alam_Squeeze: i saw you in #freeswitch if i remember
[08:50:18] <Alam_Squeeze> freeswitch?
[08:50:59] <DelphiWorld> Alam_Squeeze: yeah but i don't remember what channel i saw you in...
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[08:51:06] <DelphiWorld> Alam_Squeeze: your nickname is knowne in my brain
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[09:14:08] <nataraj> Hi
[09:14:17] <nataraj> is there a stable Arm Port?
[09:14:26] <humdinger> Hi.
[09:14:28] <humdinger> No.
[09:14:29] <humdinger> :)
[09:14:48] <humdinger> It's been quite quiet about ARM lately.
[09:14:57] <nataraj> why?
[09:15:06] <humdinger> Ithamar was the last guy working on it.
[09:15:14] <humdinger> Probably time issues, as usual.
[09:15:40] <nataraj> humdinger, may i ask an elementary question?
[09:15:49] <humdinger> ask away
[09:15:51] <nataraj> why haiku at all?
[09:16:04] <humdinger> Because we can :)
[09:16:27] <nataraj> why not good ol' linux?
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[09:17:08] <nataraj> i am coding on at91sam9263 on Arm-linux ,Apps using Qt-4.6.3 or framebuffer
[09:17:48] <humdinger> whatever floats your code^w boat...
[09:19:20] <nataraj> bloat?
[09:19:38] <humdinger> that too. "Whaever bloats your code" :)
[09:20:08] <nataraj> seem like haiku is much more compact
[09:20:47] <humdinger> can't comment on the code, but it sure feels much more consistent and nimble.
[09:21:08] <nataraj> is BeOS dead?
[09:21:19] <surrounder> lol
[09:21:22] <nataraj> is the API posix?
[09:21:29] <humdinger> 10th deadiversary is due soon...
[09:22:31] <humdinger> Haiku is supposed to be quite POSIX complient.
[09:22:49] <humdinger> Though there is of course the "native" Haiku API inherited from BeOS
[09:22:52] <nataraj> ok, tell me how to get started on Arm port
[09:23:04] <humdinger> I guess POSIX is only interesting for ports
[09:23:12] <nataraj> where is a repo?
[09:23:44] <humdinger> Best ask on the development mailing list... I'm not sure
[09:24:54] <nataraj> There is a guy called 'Juha Manninen' in the fpc list who patches fpc for haiku
[09:25:34] <humdinger> never heard that name...
[09:27:09] <humdinger> BTW, I think the ARM related stuff is all directly in trunk, i.e. under "arm" subfolders.
[09:27:22] <humdinger> At least that's what the commit messages suggest.
[09:27:31] <humdinger> not much of a coder myself
[09:27:48] <johnny_b> nataraj: check http://www.haiku-os.org/development
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[09:28:18] <johnny_b> for arm port : http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/testing-the-ARM-port-was-Re-Haikucommits-r32408-haikutrunksrcsystembootplatformuboot
[09:33:05] <nataraj> ok, starting off with a patch to u-boot
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[11:58:15] <phoudoin> hi
[11:59:19] <johnny_b> hi
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[12:00:09] <surrounder> heya phoudoin
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[12:38:14] <jrabbit> oh neat
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[13:09:50] <phoudoin> jrabbit: uh? what's neat?
[13:10:06] <jrabbit> work on ARM
[13:10:19] * jrabbit is watching Sakrozy squirm in front of Burlesconi
[13:11:30] <phoudoin> jrabbit: you better would stop doing that ;-)
[13:11:47] <phoudoin> what do work on ARM?
[13:12:13] <jrabbit> oh i guess you just joined after I have joins off in here
[13:12:17] <jrabbit> 8.975 < johnny_b> for arm port : http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/testing-the-ARM-port-was-Re-Haikucommits-r32408-haikutrunksrcsystembootplatformuboot
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[16:13:51] <Senryu_user> anybody home?
[16:14:52] <phoudoin> not yet
[16:15:03] <phoudoin> not until... 5 hours
[16:15:09] <Senryu_user> lol
[16:15:10] <phoudoin> :-\
[16:16:37] <Senryu_user> I got 10 hours to go just got in
[16:23:34] <phoudoin> 10 hours day job?!
[16:23:37] <phoudoin> woa.
[16:23:40] <phoudoin> wait...
[16:23:47] <phoudoin> Yeah, same here.
[16:23:57] <Teknomancer> that's normal
[16:24:49] <phoudoin> when your paid for 10h per day, sure.
[16:25:07] <phoudoin> you're (sorry)
[16:25:39] <phoudoin> (funny, I start to make the same error with your/you're than native speakers...)
[16:27:38] <AlienSoldier> phoudoin got to try an audigy card at a friend house, the emuki driver indeed work well. I now need to find one of those card.
[16:27:44] <AlienSoldier> *audigy 2
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[16:29:12] <AlienSoldier> he don't have one to give to me that said, like me he is stocked to the roof with SB128 :)
[16:29:47] <Teknomancer> hey AlienSoldier
[16:29:59] <AlienSoldier> Hi Teknomancer
[16:31:31] <AlienSoldier> humm, Bill gate now is the major shareholder of the CN (canada railways)
[16:31:58] <AlienSoldier> guess i will see train full of microsoft logo soon
[16:32:24] <Teknomancer> haha
[16:32:37] <Teknomancer> hope they don't "upgrade" the systems to use Microsoft too
[16:35:54] <AlienSoldier> windows 8, codename trainwreck
[16:36:23] <AlienSoldier> they just need to buy Valve Steam now
[16:38:28] <Teknomancer> yeah running the train with longhorns won't save it
[16:38:54] <phoudoin> AlienSoldier: I guess the next Microsoft Train Simulator will be way bigger ;-)
[16:39:38] <AlienSoldier> Nintendo's chief executive, Satoru Iwata suggested that his company was preparing a fresh innovation.
[16:39:39] <AlienSoldier>
[16:39:39] <AlienSoldier> "It will offer a new way of playing games within the home," he said.
[16:39:43] <phoudoin> "Take control of an real-life railways company"
[16:40:00] <AlienSoldier> i guess they will include voice recognition this time
[16:40:48] <Teknomancer> screaming passangers in front of BSOD?
[16:41:02] <Teknomancer> *passengers
[16:42:26] <jalopeura> Hey, anyone know of any time-tracking software for Haiku?
[16:44:15] <AlienSoldier> jalopeura i use TheSheduler in R5, not sure if it work in haiku and if it's what you look for
[16:44:36] <AlienSoldier> *TheScheduler
[16:45:22] <jalopeura> Just checked it out, but it's not what I'm looking for.
[16:45:26] <phoudoin> jalopeura: alas, the old TimeTrack shareware from BeOS era is 404 now...
[16:46:07] <jalopeura> I'm looking for something where I can hit a button when I start working and hit it again when I stop, so I know how long I worked.
[16:46:26] <AlienSoldier> jalopeura there is timetrack that does this
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[16:47:21] <AlienSoldier> *timetracker
[16:48:11] <AlienSoldier> i still have it and the associated source
[16:48:31] <jalopeura> And it compiles on Haiku?
[16:48:35] <AlienSoldier> no idea
[16:48:46] <AlienSoldier> i guess so, it's fairly simple app
[16:50:50] <AlienSoldier> i got to go, bug me later for it if you want it.
[16:56:20] <jalopeura> Okay, thanks.
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[19:14:09] <CIA-81> Haiku: axeld * r41282 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/cdda/kernel_interface.cpp:
[19:14:09] <CIA-81> * Write the new Media:Length attribute instead of the old Audio:Length one.
[19:14:09] <CIA-81> * Use uint64 instead of off_t for the frame numbers.
[19:14:09] <CIA-81> * Shuffled Volume methods around to match the declaration order.
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[20:13:41] <CIA-81> Haiku: axeld * r41283 /haiku/trunk/src/data/beos_mime/audio.super: * Make Audio:Track right aligned.
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[21:45:49] <Minox> ....
[21:47:56] <AlienSoldier> ,,,,
[21:48:31] <AlienSoldier> How is the stainless steel man is going?
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[21:58:09] <Minox> good
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[21:58:22] <Minox> sold vin6067 for 20k and bought vin7009 or 19k :-)
[21:58:39] <Minox> are people still checking out beshare?
[21:58:46] <Minox> or is IRC taking over for Haiku?
[22:00:23] * IIsi50MHz does a little dance for having fixed his MIME types
[22:00:40] <IIsi50MHz> Folders in Haiku were showing generic /file/ icons instead of folder icons.
[22:01:19] <IIsi50MHz> Copied the foo.something.directory type form a Senryu install and rebooted.
[22:08:10] <pulkomandy> Minox: IRC seems to be more widely used... but I don't go on BeShare so how can I know ?
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[22:21:43] <Minox> I was replying to aliensoldier
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[22:28:01] <vooshy> hello
[22:29:57] <Minox> hello
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[22:35:01] <IIsi50MHz> hey
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[22:36:31] <vooshy> anyone heard any news on alpha3?
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[22:41:48] <IIsi50MHz> none for me
[22:41:56] <IIsi50MHz> but then, I don't look often.
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[22:50:02] <vooshy> oh well we live in hope...
[22:50:27] <IIsi50MHz> indeed
[22:51:10] <IIsi50MHz> Man, I just wasted the afternoon on IRC after I intended to update three software packages (sadly, not Haiku).
[22:52:15] <vooshy> its been a bit quiet on here recently - which three packages did you want to update?
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[22:54:47] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1524 /haikuports/trunk/media-gfx/graphviz/ (graphviz-2.24.bep graphviz-2.26.3.bep): Cleaned up directories for graphviz.
[22:54:49] <Minox> think we can run haiku on a macbook pro yet?
[22:56:04] <vooshy> Minox: intel cpu?
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[22:57:35] <vooshy> Minox: cant say ive tried it but could be possible - i know some that run it virtually on macosx happily.
[22:57:49] <Minox> hmmm
[22:57:52] <Minox> I miss 2001
[22:58:34] <IIsi50MHz> ?
[23:00:23] <IIsi50MHz> For BeOS 5.0.3, or the hope of Dano?
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[23:03:16] <Minox> the hope everyone had
[23:03:25] <Minox> the commercial devs
[23:03:28] <helf> oh hey, its minox
[23:03:38] * vooshy waves at DaaT
[23:03:39] <helf> havent talked to you in awhile :p
[23:03:46] <Minox> the relationship with the original be devs
[23:03:48] <Minox> hey guys
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[23:04:17] <Minox> I was remembering the Be auction at the end... sad
[23:04:22] * DaaT waves back at vooshy
[23:04:25] <helf> heh
[23:04:26] <helf> that was sad
[23:04:27] <DaaT> hey, how's it going? :)
[23:04:32] <Minox> hey Daat
[23:04:42] <helf> bbl
[23:04:44] <DaaT> howdy Minox
[23:04:44] <Minox> still rockin' the Delorean
[23:04:50] <helf> oh nice
[23:04:55] <helf> i still want one eventually
[23:05:00] <Minox> awesome car
[23:05:04] <Minox> on my second one
[23:05:08] <Minox> sold one to a guy in Italy
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[23:05:12] <helf> nice
[23:05:18] <Minox> going to the original factory in ireland next month
[23:05:19] <helf> im driving a vehicross
[23:05:22] <Minox> 30th anniversary
[23:05:25] <helf> i couldnt afford a DMC, sadly
[23:05:28] * IIsi50MHz tools along next to it in a Honda Fit, second gen.
[23:05:30] <Minox> 19k
[23:05:33] <helf> yeah
[23:05:38] <helf> i couldnt afford that :p
[23:05:38] <vooshy> DaaT: still enjoying the UK?
[23:05:38] * IIsi50MHz eats the Delorean's dust
[23:05:47] <Minox> heh
[23:05:47] <helf> my vx was 7.5k
[23:05:53] <Minox> nice
[23:06:02] <helf> I love it. but would kill for a dmc
[23:06:05] * IIsi50MHz sticks two families and a surfboard in the Fit
[23:06:08] <helf> wanna trade? :p
[23:06:25] <Minox> I got enganged, sold the delorean got a house got rid of the finace and bought another delorean
[23:06:27] <helf> IIsi50MHz, cool. not many hatches i like, tho
[23:06:36] <IIsi50MHz> (Ok, I've swallowed the marketing.)
[23:06:42] <helf> Minox, fiance?
[23:06:51] <Minox> gave her a ring but never maried her
[23:06:54] <IIsi50MHz> I never even looked at hatches before this year.
[23:06:56] <helf> heh
[23:07:09] <Minox> she kept wanting to wait
[23:07:22] <helf> IIsi50MHz, they are nifty
[23:07:26] <Minox> pushed it out 3 years then I said enough... you don'ty want to be married, just like a big ring to show people... bye bye
[23:07:28] <DaaT> vooshy: indeed. What have you been up to?
[23:07:30] <helf> IIsi50MHz, for people that refuse to drive vans but need room ;)
[23:07:30] <IIsi50MHz> They used to be the cheapest crappiest cars, all shaped to look fast, and all falling apart
[23:07:40] <helf> i use my astro when i need space, lol.
[23:08:03] <helf> now they are the cheapest crappiest cars with horrible wedge shapes that fall apart and dont go fast
[23:08:04] <helf> ;)
[23:08:28] <helf> says the man hoping he wins this nissan leaf contest..
[23:08:31] <helf> anyway,s gotta run. later
[23:08:34] <IIsi50MHz> Yeah, the Fit especially is like a... an un-van.
[23:08:45] <vooshy> DaaT: still the same old stuff - playing with haiku mainly
[23:09:12] <vooshy> DaaT: attempting to compile zsnes as we speak.
[23:09:22] <IIsi50MHz> Actually, there are cheaper crappiers cars. Nissan Versa, for spewstance
[23:09:22] <DaaT> znes? Cool
[23:09:23] <Minox> ttyl helf
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[23:09:58] <IIsi50MHz> Nice marketing, normal sedan outside...and shoddy feel.
[23:10:48] <IIsi50MHz> Or...no, the Yaris is the one that has a sedan version. But the Versa feels terribly cheap.
[23:10:50] * JonathanThompson poits helf in greetings
[23:11:14] * JonathanThompson lobs a sheep at DaaT in greetings
[23:11:25] * DaaT takes the sheep and thanks JonathanThompson
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[23:11:33] <Minox> free wool
[23:11:50] <DaaT> just another plus of sheep :)
[23:11:52] <JonathanThompson> I suppose saying you're shagging a sheep is redundant, as they're typically quite the shag unless freshly-shaved :p
[23:12:05] <DaaT> JonathanThompson :)
[23:12:19] <JonathanThompson> (These things must be carefully thought out :p )
[23:12:29] <Minox> zoinks
[23:13:07] <IIsi50MHz> ROFL
[23:13:51] <JonathanThompson> IIsi50MHz: I'm approaching the warpness of DaaT: I say approaching, but it will never get to the same level ;)
[23:14:09] <JonathanThompson> (Only, I don't do sheep)
[23:14:22] <DaaT> and yet, envious as always
[23:14:23] <DaaT> :P
[23:14:34] <JonathanThompson> Baaah! :D
[23:14:39] * JonathanThompson runs
[23:14:51] <DaaT> nah, you're safe
[23:15:02] <JonathanThompson> Do proctologists have detailed rear-view mirrors on their cars?
[23:15:10] <JonathanThompson> (They look up their own tailpipe :p )
[23:15:58] <JonathanThompson> Then they can get that warm-fuzzy feeling, that, like it says "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear" that the end is near :p
[23:17:18] <IIsi50MHz> Your sheepishness is awaiting moderation. http://bash.org/?941320
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[23:18:06] <IIsi50MHz> Sadly, the way they update in recent months, it could be months before it gets approved or removed.
[23:18:10] <JonathanThompson> Grr, what did you quote? I can't see it :(
[23:18:46] <IIsi50MHz> * JonathanThompson lobs a sheep at DaaT in greetings
[23:18:47] <IIsi50MHz> * DaaT takes the sheep and thanks JonathanThompson
[23:18:47] <IIsi50MHz> <Minox> free wool
[23:18:48] <IIsi50MHz> <DaaT> just another plus of sheep :)
[23:18:48] <IIsi50MHz> <JonathanThompson> I suppose saying you're shagging a sheep is redundant, as they're typically quite the shag unless freshly-shaved :p
[23:18:49] <IIsi50MHz> <JonathanThompson> (These things must be carefully thought out :p )
[23:18:58] <JonathanThompson> Ok :p
[23:20:39] <DaaT> lol
[23:21:12] <DaaT> for anyone playing (and enjoying) Portal 2: http://vimeo.com/22804972
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[23:28:57] <Minox> Daat - not yet but I LOVE portal
[23:29:11] <DaaT> *nod*
[23:29:14] <Minox> gotta jet though... ttyl
[23:29:21] <Minox> Portal forever!
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[23:29:29] <DaaT> i'm in chapter 8 atm (portal 2)
[23:29:32] <DaaT> c ya
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[23:32:03] <CIA-81> Caya GPL Protocols: barrett * r24 /trunk/protocols/msn/ (5 files): Added a first core of the avatars cache. Solved a regression with personal message.
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[23:58:19] <{V}> DaaT, aww what a cute turret :)
[23:58:33] <DaaT> {V}: awesome isn't it? :)
[23:59:55] <{V}> sure is
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