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[06:03:45] <sotrud_nik> I've found a workaround for bug, when kbd and mouse don't work at HP530 laptop. You should disable active multiplexing in ps2 driver;)
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[13:39:25] <netpositive> hmm
[13:40:02] <netpositive> trying to build a haiku iso but i got an error: Archive actions too long (max 40960)
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[13:47:54] <netpositive> the buildtoolsare at newest revision
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[15:36:49] <PulkoMandy> netpositive : check jam -v, you are likely using another jam, not the one from haiku
[15:39:29] <netpositive> PulkoMandy: i build on haiku r41270
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[15:39:59] <netpositive> but the included jam is old
[15:40:24] <netpositive> i had to install from sources
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[15:48:06] <PulkoMandy> the vanilla jam from perforce is unmaintained for years
[15:48:19] <PulkoMandy> there are various forks of it, most notably from boost, freetype, and haiku
[15:48:32] <PulkoMandy> and only the haiku jam can work with haiku build system
[15:48:47] <netpositive> i made the whole process on haiku
[15:48:55] <PulkoMandy> there is an hardcoded limit in command size we have to increase from time to time
[15:49:20] <netpositive> i saw that
[15:49:50] <PulkoMandy> so if you want to update jam, take the one from the build tools svn repository
[15:50:11] <netpositive> i understood that
[15:51:08] <netpositive> my problem is why the nightly iso does contain a jam version with lower command size limit?
[15:51:23] <helf> morning
[15:51:30] <netpositive> bonjour
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[18:06:37] <Cian> I take it the VESA driver doesn't do widescreen resolutions?
[18:11:11] <Cian> looks like nvidia decided not to expose the modes in the video BIOS then, great
[18:13:02] <Cian> the onboard card on this board is supported but the board BIOS turns it off if the PCIX16 slot is used
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[19:10:23] <Senryu_user> Hello
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[19:21:38] <humdinger> hullo
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[19:45:48] <Senryu_user> heh
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[19:48:57] <humdinger> ehe
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[20:00:21] <leszek> re
[20:01:03] <humdinger> ho
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[20:15:21] <Senryu_user> hehe haha hoho, there comming to take me away hahah,hehe,hoho to the funny farm where life is gay and all the men dress in little white suits haha,hehe,hoho
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[20:23:02] <wesbluemarine> :(
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[20:31:25] <brechtm> hey
[20:32:39] <Barrett> hi brechtm
[20:32:42] <humdinger> hello
[20:33:12] <humdinger> what are you guys doing?
[20:33:15] <brechtm> anything I can do if checkfs can't fix my files?
[20:33:34] <brechtm> humdinger: trying to clean up the mess that are my Haiku partitions :)
[20:33:36] <humdinger> duplicate and delete the originals?
[20:33:42] <Barrett> hahaha pidgin on linux is unable to display japanese characters....caya yes
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[20:33:56] <Barrett> as default on my installation
[20:34:00] <humdinger> good idea, brechtm
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[20:34:21] <humdinger> I should initialize the partition and make a clean installation some day.
[20:34:32] <humdinger> Maybe then the localization works 100%...
[20:34:43] <brechtm> I'm afraid running my Haiku partition in VMWare messed up the filesystem
[20:35:18] <humdinger> insanity gets punished... :)
[20:35:31] <brechtm> handy though :)
[20:36:03] <brechtm> need to find a way to disable VM state saving in VMWare player... should be safer
[20:38:12] <humdinger> I was busy the last couple of days with creating flag icons...
[20:38:24] <brechtm> for?
[20:38:29] <humdinger> Optimized about 90 and did 70 new...
[20:38:30] <brechtm> countries?
[20:38:33] <humdinger> Locale prefs
[20:38:39] <humdinger> yes.
[20:38:50] <humdinger> I'm about to have anough of that now :)
[20:38:56] <humdinger> *enough
[20:39:05] <brechtm> can image :)
[20:39:23] <humdinger> There are some pretty nice flags out there.
[20:39:33] <brechtm> haven't been following progress lately, but looks like much was made in the localization department
[20:39:55] <humdinger> yep. kirilla was doing loads
[20:40:11] <brechtm> don't remember seeing him this active
[20:40:12] <humdinger> to show localized apps and folder names in Tracker and Deskbar
[20:40:17] <brechtm> but that might be just me :)
[20:40:27] <humdinger> was a few weeks back already
[20:40:33] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1515 /haikuports/trunk/net-misc/curl/ (11 files): Changed curl's bep files to use finddir, updated curl to 7.21.6.
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[20:41:05] <brechtm> nice
[20:41:30] <humdinger> I don't go into that much detail, of course...
[20:41:56] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1516 /haikuports/trunk/net-misc/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Updated neon, wput and rsync .bep files to use finddir.
[20:41:59] <brechtm> wow
[20:42:35] <Cian> urgh, there doesn't seem to be a way I can add myself to my other MSN account without logging in to it on Windows :/
[20:42:42] <brechtm> ah, only 2 files checkfs can't seem to fix.. ain't too bad, I guess
[20:42:46] <Cian> trying to see if I can figure out some things in Caya I'd like to fix
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[20:42:59] <brechtm> I hope I can trust checkfs fixed the others?
[20:43:09] <brechtm> of might they still be corrupted?
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[20:43:50] <humdinger> no idea. what kind of files were they?
[20:44:13] <brechtm> not crucially important
[20:44:16] <brechtm> but loads
[20:44:24] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1517 /haikuports/trunk/packs/optionalpackages/optionalpackages-0.6-gcc4.bep: updated optionalpackages-0.6-gcc4 bep file.
[20:44:29] <brechtm> files in the Haiku source tree mostly, I think
[20:45:01] <humdinger> You'll know with the next compile.
[20:45:04] <humdinger> hopefully.
[20:45:13] <humdinger> Or just check them out again.
[20:45:30] <Cian> oh great, its not even doing the thing that was annoying me now :/
[20:45:43] <humdinger> fixed! Cian
[20:46:20] <Cian> humdinger I wouldn't really call it fixed, just broken to my advantage ;)
[20:46:33] <humdinger> close enough :)
[20:46:42] <Cian> it was showing what the MSN protocol calls the "friendly name" and not letting you see their passport address
[20:46:53] <Cian> problem for me in that I have at least three "Chris"s on my MSN
[20:49:38] <brechtm> does scottmc ever visit #haiku?
[20:50:10] <humdinger> I'm rarely here myself...
[20:50:26] <jrabbit> brechtm: no :(
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[20:50:31] <brechtm> mm, duplicated and deleted a corrupt file... doesn't show up with checkfs anymore, but another now does show up
[20:50:57] <brechtm> oh, hi jrabbit
[20:51:27] <brechtm> you're Jack, right?
[20:53:59] <Cian> my brain really isn't a code-able mode right now anyway, so its just as wellk
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[20:56:59] <Cian> I've a gcc4 app that isn't seeing symbols in libbe or libmidi when linked
[20:57:08] <Cian> but is resolving symbols in everything else
[20:57:12] <Cian> on a gcc2hybrid
[20:59:41] <Cian> ah, its from having -L/boot/system/lib in it
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[21:04:07] <Cian> however the runtime loader doesn't seem to be realising its a gcc4 app...
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[21:07:14] <CIA-81> Haiku: humdinger * r41281 /haiku/trunk/data/artwork/icons/flags/ (232 files): (log message trimmed)
[21:07:14] <CIA-81> * Optimized svg-inported flags where possible or recreated from scratch.
[21:07:14] <CIA-81> * Added around 75 new flags. I didn't go into too much detail (some flags are
[21:07:14] <CIA-81> insane!), since they are currently only used in 16px size in Locale prefs.
[21:07:15] <CIA-81> Faster loading and rendering seems more important.
[21:07:15] <CIA-81> * All flags now have an aspect ratio of 16:14, which may not always be the
[21:07:16] <CIA-81> official proportions, but looks more consistent.
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[21:13:15] <humdinger> Good evening everyone!
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[21:18:22] <judgen> nice computer
[21:18:38] <judgen> i think i am going to bid on it =D
[21:18:59] <judgen> never had an ROMP
[21:19:15] <judgen> i think that is the 24bit RISC model, but i cant tell from the picture.
[21:20:51] <HeTo> what's that? what does it run?
[21:20:53] <judgen> Darn.. it was pick up only =(
[21:21:03] <judgen> It runs CP/m ofcourse
[21:21:11] <judgen> 24bit CPU
[21:21:33] <HeTo> hmm, okay
[21:21:38] <judgen> mighty 10mhz
[21:21:43] <judgen> 25kg
[21:22:19] <judgen> The first chips were ready in early 1981. Thus, ROMP was possibly the first working commercial RISC
[21:22:28] <judgen> pretty awsome
[21:23:16] <judgen> you can run RT/OS and unix on it as well
[21:23:20] <judgen> depending on model
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[21:36:30] <johnny_b> 8 positions, nice
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[21:39:34] <mmadia> indeed :)
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[21:46:48] <tqh> nice
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[22:06:51] <johnny_b> why is zfs important for haiku?
[22:07:31] <mmadia> we focus more on the students who impress us, rather than "l33t project".
[22:07:52] <jrabbit> johnny_b: ZFS is the future </oracle>
[22:07:55] <mmadia> but, in general, the more file systems that Haiku can read and work with, the easier it'll be for people to use haiku.
[22:09:59] <johnny_b> how do you want to keep talented students after gsoc?
[22:11:09] <mmadia> i guess, chained to a radiator in the basement ;)
[22:11:32] <brechtm> we have a basement? wow
[22:11:34] <johnny_b> hehe, axeld is good in this basement stuff ;)
[22:11:47] <scgtrp> do we at least get cookies?
[22:12:18] <mmadia> seriously though, ideally, the students will get commit access during the course of GSoC or sometime afterwards.
[22:12:19] <johnny_b> only if you work at min. 110% rate ;)
[22:12:34] <mmadia> ask gsocbot about the cookies, scgtrp :P
[22:12:52] <scgtrp> mmadia: it ate my cookie :(
[22:14:01] <johnny_b> bad luck, scgtrp ;)
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[22:20:22] <brechtm> nighty night
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[23:47:43] <dilbert> Hello. I just tried the latest nightly. WiFi encryption still does not work. Any progress?
[23:48:01] <mmadia> which type of encryption?
[23:48:09] <dilbert> wpa2
[23:48:27] <OmniMancer> AFAIK no progress
[23:48:31] <mmadia> nothing that can be committed to the source tree.
[23:48:40] <dilbert> i know wep works, but it is not secure enough.
[23:49:12] <mmadia> iirc, axel had most of wpa ported, but there was some hidden bug that he couldn't figure out.
[23:49:36] <dilbert> This is what's keeping people from using Haiku. It's really sad.
[23:49:48] <mmadia> there's lots of things.
[23:50:06] <mmadia> for some, it's USB issues, others its IRQ issues,
[23:50:16] <OmniMancer> also wpa-supplicant was ported before axels contract but some bug in the wifi stack stopped it working
[23:50:26] <mmadia> video issues, vesa not supporting wide screen monitors, ...
[23:51:18] <dilbert> None as crucial as WPA2. A computer with no connection is useless. I can live without accelerated graphics or limited usb. but a computer with no internet is basically a brick...
[23:51:42] <johnny_b> what happened with llvm port?
[23:51:47] <mmadia> what about a computer that doesn't boot due to irq/usb issues?
[23:52:05] <dilbert> I have tried it. It does boot.
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[23:53:02] <mmadia> ok, then the lack wpa(2) is what keeps *you* from using Haiku. i'm just clarifying that there's lots of other issues why people may not use Haiku.
[23:53:25] <dilbert> I would donate to the wpa2 bounty, but they removed all bounties except gallium. So I donated 70 eoros to Haiku instead.
[23:53:46] <DaaT> mmadia: port Portal 2 to Haiku and screw wpa!
[23:53:48] <DaaT> :)
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[23:53:58] <dilbert> There was a public vote for most wanted features. wpa2 topped it.
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[23:54:22] <johnny_b> funny
[23:54:45] <mmadia> thanks for the article DaaT :)
[23:55:02] <OmniMancer> johnny_b: unless something strange has happened llvm works on haiku
[23:55:12] <DaaT> mmadia: thanks for the haiku update :)
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[23:55:43] <johnny_b> OmniMancer: bueno
[23:55:56] <johnny_b> where can i find it for download?
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[23:56:41] <johnny_b> OmniMancer1: is it available for download?
[23:57:13] <OmniMancer1> johnny_b: firstly clarify what you mean by llvm
[23:57:49] <AmineKhaldi> OmniMancer1: TechnoMancer ?
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[23:58:07] <OmniMancer1> you likely have the strange and horribly inaccurate view that llvm == clang
[23:59:07] <johnny_b> nay, i'm just tired
[23:59:34] <johnny_b> clang is c compiler for llvm iirc
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[23:59:44] <OmniMancer1> what do you want available for download?
[23:59:47] <OmniMancer1> and yes