April 21, 2011 
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remember see such an option, but maybe I wasn't in the right place?[03:34:18] <jrabbit> I don't know :([03:34:42] <IIsi50MHz> I don't often boot Haiku because most of my apps are in BeOS...and other reasons.[03:35:29] <IIsi50MHz> Never liked how Windows sorts folders before files and doesn't let you tell it not to.[03:35:51] <jrabbit> IIsi50MHz: you could in theory run any file manager you want I think...[03:35:58] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[03:36:22] <jrabbit> if tracker doesn't let you configure this you could file a ticket on it... seems simple if its not there[03:36:41] <jrabbit> IIsi50MHz: GTK does that too I think[03:36:45] <jrabbit> out of the box[03:36:52] <IIsi50MHz> Apps that get called "file managers" tend to be Yet Another Norton Commander Clone.[03:37:21] <jrabbit> I mean like Thundar and such[03:37:56] <jrabbit> *thunar[03:38:37] <jrabbit> IIsi50MHz: theres alwyas mc :P[03:40:22] <IIsi50MHz> Mac? *hugs his System 7.1* (^:[03:41:58] <jrabbit> no mc[03:42:19] <jrabbit> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Midnight_Commander[03:42:20] <jrabbit> :P[03:42:27] <jrabbit> " a clone of Norton Commander "[03:43:22] * jrabbit kicks the tires on his server[03:59:16] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:02:45] * IIsi50MHz shines said tires[04:13:50] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[04:15:45] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[04:22:23] *** duvjones has joined #haiku[04:28:59] * JonathanThompson poits helfujitsu in greetings[04:35:41] <IIsi50MHz> Hate it when I forget to use Cmd + [FN-key] instead of Alt-Tab.[04:36:09] <IIsi50MHz> Makes my client dump the list of nicks in the channel as tab-completion options when I really want to switch workspaces.[04:47:25] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[05:46:36] *** IIsi50MHz has quit IRC[05:53:12] *** bryan_w has quit IRC[07:00:44] *** augiedoggie has quit IRC[07:10:12] *** MasterStarman has joined #haiku[08:00:43] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[08:04:32] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[08:04:40] *** Nozy has quit IRC[08:25:06] *** 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joined #haiku[12:26:14] *** js has quit IRC[12:28:56] *** js has joined #haiku[12:32:16] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[12:34:12] *** Nozy has quit IRC[12:56:30] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[13:01:43] *** PasNox has quit IRC[13:07:46] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[13:32:29] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[13:41:00] *** diver has left #haiku[13:48:59] *** diver has joined #haiku[13:50:38] *** lukove has quit IRC[14:25:49] *** GedMurphy has quit IRC[14:39:30] *** tqh has joined #haiku[14:43:09] *** tqh has quit IRC[14:53:02] *** brennanos has joined #haiku[15:04:49] *** singingBird has joined #haiku[15:07:27] <singingBird> hi i could login with vision into this channel. i could successfully installed Haiku into my ibm laptop; thanks for the community for bringing up a great OS[15:07:32] *** Frek has joined #haiku[15:09:08] <Frek> What's the best way to contribute to Haiku?[15:12:00] *** singingBird has quit IRC[15:16:16] *** GedMurphy has joined #haiku[15:16:16] *** GedMurphy has joined #haiku[15:18:38] <johnny_b> Frek: there are many ways, it depends on your skills[15:21:33] *** brennanos has quit IRC[15:22:08] <Frek> johnny_b, Assume professional programming skills but amatuer BeOS/Haiku knowledge[15:24:45] <johnny_b> Frek: that's cool, man :)[15:25:08] <Teknomancer> best way is to write bullet proof code that is required and works :P[15:25:09] <Teknomancer> what else[15:25:17] <johnny_b> yep :)[15:26:05] <johnny_b> you can checks tickets and fix bugs[15:26:27] <Frek> What's cool is HaikuOS, I used to run BeOS back in 1998 or so, Decided to try the HaikuOS Alpha 2 (and now the nightly) a few days ago, And to my surprise I found a system that was way ahead of my expectations.[15:26:32] <Frek> johnny_b, good idea.[15:27:08] <johnny_b> you can reach devs on haiku-dev list (iirc)[15:27:33] <Frek> I think you got me started, Thank you.[15:27:48] <johnny_b> with pleasure :)[15:28:39] <johnny_b> feel free to ask here or on the mailing lists if you're stuck[15:28:47] <helf> morning[15:29:02] <johnny_b> hi[15:30:02] <Teknomancer> hey helf[15:30:05] <Frek> johnny_b, sure. I'll start with researching some. The tickets didn't cross my mind, but now when you mention it it's probably the absolutely best way to get to know the system, and at the sametime not put an overwhelming task on your shoulders. like everyone else my sparetime is finite.[15:32:10] <johnny_b> totally agree[15:33:19] <johnny_b> there's Haiku Book about the API and you should check the newsletters too[15:33:43] <johnny_b> or the original Be materual (which can be outdated in some parts) to get the idea[15:33:57] <Frek> I've already familarized me somewhat with the APIs (but mostly on the GUI side so far)[15:34:10] <johnny_b> that sounds good[15:38:33] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[15:38:33] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[15:48:46] <helf> hiya Teknomancer[15:49:11] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[16:03:14] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[16:06:16] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[16:07:52] *** negusnyul_laptop has joined #haiku[16:14:11] *** oxoocoffee_ has joined #haiku[16:15:35] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[16:15:35] *** oxoocoffee_ is now known as oxoocoffee[16:19:26] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[16:24:35] *** aphedox_ has joined #haiku[16:27:13] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[16:27:48] *** aphedox has quit IRC[16:28:02] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[16:28:03] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[16:28:59] *** elliottcable is now known as ec|detached[16:30:05] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[16:32:03] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[16:38:37] *** impy has quit IRC[16:39:00] *** impy has joined #haiku[16:40:02] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[16:40:41] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[16:43:33] *** tqh has joined #haiku[16:46:58] *** GedMurphy has quit IRC[17:12:43] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[17:13:09] *** tqh has quit IRC[17:13:37] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:23:24] *** negusnyul_laptop has quit IRC[17:29:27] *** Stellar has quit IRC[17:37:24] *** Will07c5 has joined #haiku[17:40:37] *** Barrett has quit IRC[17:55:31] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[17:57:13] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[18:03:30] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[18:04:18] *** aladds has joined #haiku[18:06:30] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[18:19:01] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[18:21:15] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[18:26:19] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:27:17] *** mmadia has quit IRC[18:29:47] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[18:30:05] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[18:30:34] *** netpositive has joined #haiku[18:32:20] <netpositive> woowww[18:32:35] <mmu_man> plop[18:32:46] <netpositive> haiku is simply C.O.O.L[18:33:02] *** The123king has left #haiku[18:33:06] <netpositive> sweet[18:34:10] <netpositive> MediaPlayer: The file could not be opened. Error: General system error :)[18:35:56] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[18:36:51] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[18:37:44] <netpositive> does haiku have user interface guidelines?[18:42:05] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[18:43:03] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[18:45:46] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[18:51:55] *** Stellar has joined #haiku[18:53:45] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[19:00:05] *** netpositive has quit IRC[19:00:38] *** mmu has joined #haiku[19:02:41] *** aladds has quit IRC[19:02:51] *** GeekShadow has quit IRC[19:05:05] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[19:07:53] *** FrekHaiku has joined #haiku[19:19:23] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[19:19:39] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[19:21:06] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[19:25:10] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[19:31:34] *** _marc` has quit IRC[19:50:06] *** geoid has joined #haiku[19:50:15] <geoid> greetz[19:50:43] <geoid> I've been watching BeOS progress since it was first announced.[19:50:54] <geoid> It always sounded fantastic, looked good too.[19:50:59] <geoid> Was sad when it died.[19:51:06] <geoid> Found Haiku.[19:51:11] <geoid> Got excited again.[19:51:27] <geoid> Downloaded the alpha2 and created a USB boot disk from linux.[19:51:41] <geoid> It bombs with superblock errors :([19:51:47] <geoid> Dream end.[19:55:32] *** biesi has quit IRC[19:55:43] <Anarchos> geoid it workds fine here[19:57:02] <johnny_b> haiku flies on my old ThinkCentre S51[19:57:25] *** impy has quit IRC[19:57:32] <johnny_b> it's fast as hell :)[19:58:57] <geoid> so what me doing wrong?[19:59:20] <geoid> I've seen this superblock error on google.. didn't really understand what I was reading, but it sounded like a hardware conflict[19:59:40] <geoid> is there some way I can verify that my USB boot disk is valid?[20:00:02] <geoid> johnny_b is hell fast? :p[20:00:31] <geoid> Anarchos how can I troubleshoot this?[20:00:55] <Anarchos> geoid try with a more recent revision[20:01:39] <geoid> Anarchos more recent than r1 alpha2? Thought that was the latest.[20:02:07] *** phoudoin has joined #haiku[20:02:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phoudoin[20:02:28] <Anarchos> geoid no just ask for a recent build (yesterday)[20:03:07] <geoid> Anarchos I'm a n00b.. how would I do that? Lemme see... "pls can I have a recent build!"[20:03:38] <Anarchos> geoid someone will answer for sure[20:03:52] <humdinger> geoid: get a nightly anyboot from http://www.haiku-files.org/[20:04:40] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[20:04:41] <geoid> ok.. and if I want to make a USB boot disk from linux, what should I download?[20:04:47] <geoid> Anyboot, Raw, or what?[20:04:53] <humdinger> Anybot[20:04:56] <humdinger> anyboot[20:05:24] <humdinger> the just do a "dd if=image of=/dev/to/your/stick bs=1M[20:05:46] <geoid> k.. that's what I did first time round... will try again with new image... fingers knotted.[20:05:59] <humdinger> good luck[20:06:01] <phoudoin> raw image will works fine too, most of the time.[20:06:15] <geoid> any chance of a php ide on haiku?[20:06:36] <phoudoin> nope ;-)[20:06:39] <geoid> or ruby for that matter, or even python?[20:06:49] <geoid> would be wickiiid![20:06:51] <phoudoin> well, we do have all these languages ported[20:06:59] <phoudoin> but no IDE.[20:07:01] <Anarchos> geoid let us begin with java and eclipse :/[20:07:08] <phoudoin> No dedicated IDE.[20:07:15] <geoid> objective C?[20:07:34] <phoudoin> We must have also a web server supporting PHP[20:07:41] <humdinger> pulkomandy: Thanks BTW, for your mail on the national flags recently. I just didn't get to try it once more since...[20:07:42] <phoudoin> hum, no.[20:08:08] <geoid> *sigh* so what do you use to code with if there's no IDE? or do you code for it on another OS?[20:08:12] <pulkomandy> humdinger: ok :) may very well be a bug in the locale kit...[20:08:32] <pulkomandy> geoid: I use vim; a lot of other devs use Pe or Paladin[20:08:38] <pulkomandy> Paladin is quite near to an IDE :)[20:08:48] <geoid> vim *choke gasp*[20:09:15] <humdinger> pulkomandy: I'm going over the flags now, "optimizing" them and adding a frame to all. I'll try again this weekend probably.[20:09:22] <geoid> anyone used Coda? That would make an awsome port.. although it's probably written in Objective C[20:09:34] <phoudoin> Pe, a graphical programmer editor + Terminal.[20:09:44] <pulkomandy> humdinger: ok. I must admit I'm not a good graphist and didn't tweak them too much[20:09:58] <geoid> Any of those have PHP syntax highlighting and variable completion?[20:10:07] <phoudoin> Pe does, yes.[20:10:13] <humdinger> me neither, but flags are mostly easy to deal with :)[20:10:20] <pulkomandy> I'll try to find back my export script (hvif to resource) ifthat can help you[20:10:27] <pulkomandy> not sure if I've kept it somewhere[20:10:31] <phoudoin> well, the syntax higlighting part. No variable completion, it's an editor, not an IDE.[20:10:59] <geoid> so there's also no webserver... probably no mysql either?[20:11:41] <phoudoin> sqlite, postgresql i think[20:11:50] <geoid> If you're going to port a webserver, it should be this one: http://www.lighttpd.net/[20:12:29] <geoid> Rather than a patchy webserver[20:13:06] <geoid> so haiku is all what.. C++ code? Wondering how to get involved.[20:13:14] <geoid> I suppose a good start would be getting it booted :D[20:14:04] <phoudoin> geoid: http://haikuware.com/directory/internet-network/servers/[20:14:19] <phoudoin> yes, it's a prerequisite :-)[20:14:50] <phoudoin> see, the lack of PHP IDE is not yet the main roadblock ;-)[20:15:02] <humdinger> pulkomandy: A script would be much appreciated.[20:15:05] *** impy has joined #haiku[20:16:50] <geoid> is the webmaster in here?[20:19:11] *** phoudoin has quit IRC[20:19:38] <geoid> damn.. I hope this works... I've been waiting to see this OS for like I dunno.. 15 yrs?[20:20:01] <humdinger> geoid: We're only about 10 years old. :)[20:21:30] <geoid> well... you see my point!? Like forever. I'm sure BeOS was around before 10yrs... lemme see, yup, wikipedia says 1991.. that's when I got my first intel 386[20:22:09] <humdinger> well... BeOS != Haiku.[20:22:23] <humdinger> And I think the first BeOS DR releases were around 1996[20:22:31] <humdinger> anyway.[20:22:35] <humdinger> Surely a long time![20:35:46] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[20:35:53] <Anarchos> humdinger i bought my BeOS 4 :)[20:36:12] <humdinger> I up you a R3.1[20:36:34] <Ingenu> bought BeOS R5[20:36:50] <Ingenu> used it for a couple years as my main system[20:36:51] <geoid> moment of truth[20:37:39] <geoid> doesn't look promising... bad superblock[20:37:50] <geoid> let me just check this process with you...[20:38:08] <geoid> 1. I start out with a FAT-32 formatted USB stick (4GB) in size.[20:38:22] <geoid> 2. Download the nightly Anyboot image[20:38:44] <geoid> 3. Confirm the name of the USB disk and do the dd jive[20:39:05] <geoid> 4. I can see the USB disk's light come on as the image gets written to it.[20:39:25] <geoid> 5. Once done I reboot from the USB and I get "bad superblock"[20:39:54] <geoid> 6. If I reboot into Linux, the USB stick is now unmountable, so I have to reformat it.[20:40:16] <humdinger> hmmm. Dunno...[20:40:26] <humdinger> The dd line under Haiku would be "dd if=haiku-nightly-anyboot.image of=/dev/disk/usb/0/0/raw bs=1M"[20:40:56] <geoid> on linux it's different, but I followed the instructions on the get-haiku page.[20:40:56] *** Pinaraf has joined #haiku[20:40:57] <humdinger> Maybe try another USB stick.[20:41:45] <geoid> should I be addressing the disk or the partition with the dd command?[20:41:53] <humdinger> Under Ubuntu I use "dd if=haiku-anyboot.image of=/dev/sdb bs=1M"[20:41:58] <pulkomandy> the disk[20:42:26] <geoid> humdinger... I forgot the bs=1M this time I think[20:42:28] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[20:42:33] <geoid> what is that bit for anyhow?[20:42:40] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[20:42:41] <humdinger> blocksize[20:42:52] <humdinger> not bullshit :)[20:43:08] <geoid> heh :)[20:43:48] <geoid> Ok.. this is my last attempt in the Haiku olympic heats...[20:44:03] <humdinger> There's always VirtualBox...[20:44:17] <humdinger> though it doesn't hold a candle to a natively running system[20:44:25] *** dru_ has quit IRC[20:44:27] <geoid> noooooo... me wantz nativez or me throw toyz![20:45:09] <humdinger> Apparently some USB-sticks just refuse to work... You could still try another one.[20:45:20] <humdinger> Or even burn a CD from the Anyboot image.[20:45:33] *** augiedoggie has joined #haiku[20:45:47] <geoid> will do when I get home. Does size matter?[20:46:14] <humdinger> They say it's mostly technique, but I don't buy it...[20:46:17] <humdinger> :)[20:46:42] <humdinger> You need at least 800mb I think.[20:47:34] <geoid> bad superblock bad bloody superblock.. i'm going to knock that super's block off![20:48:05] <geoid> oh well, I'll try another stick l8rz... thx for the help and encouragement! :D[20:48:21] <johnny_b> geoid: why don't you burn a cd/dvd for it?[20:48:58] <geoid> wassat? I've heard of bluray disks... are those like betamax or summing??[20:48:59] <pulkomandy> the block size isn't important, it only makes the copy faster[20:49:09] <humdinger> geoid: If you do succeed, try "installoptionalpackage -l" from Terminal to install more software like webpositive.[20:49:48] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[20:51:26] <johnny_b> a whole GUI OS + webkit based browser needs only 128MB memory ... unbelievable[20:52:22] *** geoid has quit IRC[20:53:12] *** Jessica_lily has quit IRC[20:53:28] <mmu_man> johnny_b: and if you don't need javascript you can use NetSurf instead :D[21:01:10] <johnny_b> i know[21:01:12] <johnny_b> :)[21:02:32] <johnny_b> does intel gma900 have support in haiku?[21:04:22] *** lukove has joined #haiku[21:04:33] *** lukove has joined #haiku[21:07:01] *** humdinger has quit IRC[21:08:35] *** Perlsenspiel has joined #haiku[21:09:52] *** Perlsenspiel has left #haiku[21:12:45] *** Jessica_lily has joined #haiku[21:17:22] *** _marc` has quit IRC[21:24:40] *** ec|detached is now known as elliottcable[21:26:04] *** lukove has quit IRC[21:33:34] <FrekHaiku> A question for GUI development in Haiku, Assume a simple application like the "click me" app in the "Learning to program with Haiku" example, now assume I would want to change the text on the button instead, Whats the recommended way to expose the button to the message handler, add a reference to it in the message or having it globally accessable from the class?[21:35:36] <FrekHaiku> (Or did I miss something about the message origin in the BMessage?)[21:35:48] *** IIsi50MHz has joined #haiku[21:35:57] *** Barrett has quit IRC[21:36:11] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[21:36:31] <IIsi50MHz> Hejsan, Barrett[21:36:40] <Barrett> ?[21:36:49] <IIsi50MHz> Hey[21:36:55] <Barrett> hey[21:38:02] <IIsi50MHz> Sorry, I've Swedish people on IRC.[21:38:07] <IIsi50MHz> It rubs off on me.[21:38:44] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[21:40:11] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[21:46:39] *** keenblade has joined #haiku[21:46:55] <AlienSoldier> wow, the snow is starting again after getting 30 cm yesterday :)[21:47:40] <IIsi50MHz> Ehhhhh? Doko[21:47:44] <IIsi50MHz> Or...where.[21:47:55] *** Barrett has quit IRC[21:49:16] <jstressman> IIsi50MHz: clearly Japanese rubs off on you as well? (or are you Japanese?)[21:49:25] *** keenblade has left #haiku[21:49:31] <IIsi50MHz> Dad is.[21:49:52] <jstressman> gotcha. :)[21:50:02] <IIsi50MHz> also: gah! family requires me[21:50:07] * IIsi50MHz is away: family [15:55][21:50:39] <AlienSoldier> east quebec[21:54:49] <johnny_b> FrekHaiku: i'm not familiar with Be/Haiku API but maybe it's worth to check this: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/beosprog/book/ or http://www.haiku-os.org/files/downloads/programmingbeos.zip[21:54:56] <johnny_b> it's the same book[22:01:59] *** Pinaraf has quit IRC[22:02:22] *** Pinaraf has joined #haiku[22:02:31] <FrekHaiku> johnny_b, thank you, found the answer when I read more about the message handling, a source pointer is transparently added in the Invoke of controls.[22:03:17] <johnny_b> FrekHaiku: fabulous :)[22:03:36] *** Stellar has quit IRC[22:04:08] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[22:11:19] *** FrekHaiku has quit IRC[22:14:35] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[22:17:10] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[22:19:47] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:23:00] *** tqh2 has quit IRC[22:25:49] *** tqh has joined #haiku[22:39:34] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[22:40:22] *** PasNox has quit IRC[22:45:35] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:46:09] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[22:49:33] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[22:56:29] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[22:57:00] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[23:01:22] *** dru_ has quit IRC[23:03:11] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[23:13:05] *** mrsunshine has quit IRC[23:16:43] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[23:24:11] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[23:27:01] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[23:31:52] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[23:32:50] *** Pinaraf has quit IRC[23:32:53] *** Pinaraf_ has joined #haiku[23:34:08] *** genkie has joined #haiku[23:37:20] *** yourpalal has joined #haiku[23:38:35] *** genkie has quit IRC[23:39:08] *** Pinaraf_ is now known as Pinaraf[23:46:03] *** phoudoin has joined #haiku[23:46:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phoudoin[23:56:18] *** TomMan81 has quit IRC[23:56:32] *** TomManAway has joined #haiku[23:56:59] *** TomManAway is now known as TomMan81[23:58:45] * IIsi50MHz is away: not /more/ food! damn [18:03]