April 12, 2011 
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April 12, 2011 [00:12:01] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[00:17:56] *** Geoz has quit IRC[00:17:56] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[00:20:59] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[00:21:32] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[00:28:19] <CIA-81> Haiku: korli * r41238 /haiku/trunk/data/system/data/firmware/ (6 files in 2 dirs): adding iprowifi4965 and iprowifi3945 firmwares[00:29:35] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[00:29:37] <CIA-81> Haiku: korli * r41239 /haiku/trunk/headers/os/drivers/ (USB_spec.h usb/USB_hid.h): some cosmetics[00:34:18] *** nopper has quit IRC[00:36:06] *** Tilduke has quit IRC[00:38:35] *** nopper has joined #haiku[00:43:14] *** AlonzoTG has quit IRC[00:47:05] *** yourpalal has quit IRC[00:48:07] <CIA-81> Haiku: korli * r41240 /haiku/trunk/src/ (64 files in 14 dirs):[00:48:07] <CIA-81> merged changes from 8.2 FreeBSD release for most wlan drivers and net80211.[00:48:07] <CIA-81> updated several firmwares for iprowifi4965 and iprowifi3945. Tested on iprowifi4965 only.[00:48:49] *** Geoz|lap has joined #haiku[00:48:49] *** Geoz|lap has joined #haiku[00:49:18] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[00:49:27] *** Geoz has quit IRC[00:50:27] *** AlonzoTG has joined #haiku[01:04:02] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[01:18:16] *** amo3 has joined #haiku[01:24:47] *** heroid has joined #haiku[01:30:12] *** Senryu_user has joined #haiku[01:39:51] *** Disreali has quit IRC[01:40:04] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[01:46:20] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:48:30] *** Disreali has quit IRC[01:49:53] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[01:54:19] <CIA-81> Haiku: mmadia * r41241 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/aboutsystem/AboutSystem.cpp: Another update relating to the USPTO registration of the HAIKU logo.[01:57:31] *** elliottcable is now known as ec|detached[01:58:16] *** ec|detached is now known as elliottcable[02:01:30] *** Senryu_user has quit IRC[02:08:03] *** amo3 has quit IRC[02:11:32] *** Pinaraf has quit IRC[02:19:05] *** bryan_w has joined #haiku[02:19:47] <mmadia> Disreali : i've started to get back into homebrewing.[02:20:38] <Disreali> sweet![02:20:58] <Disreali> unfortunately, I've sold most of my equipment[02:21:17] <mmadia> i've a hefe-cider fermenting and i'm hoping to do a hefeweizen this weekeng.[02:21:43] <Disreali> I have been know to barrow a friends for a split of the product[02:22:01] <Disreali> hefe-cider?? that sounds interesting[02:22:43] <Disreali> is that a malted cider, or something else?[02:22:44] <mmadia> http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3319[02:23:12] <mmadia> a regular cider, fermented with wyeast 3068 (hefeweizen yeast)[02:24:45] <Disreali> interesting...[02:25:02] <Disreali> let me know how it comes out[02:26:17] <tiffany352> I thought you were talking about games at first[02:26:27] <tiffany352> and then I was like, fermenting, what[02:27:54] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[02:28:21] <Disreali> "This is grain, which any fool can eat, but for which the Lord intended a more divine means of consumption. Let us give praise to our maker and glory to his bounty by learning about... BEER." best movie line ever![02:29:15] <tiffany352> ^o.o^[02:29:33] <tiffany352> I'm never going to drink alchohol :|[02:29:42] <Disreali> though, I like whikey better. pecifically Scotch[02:29:58] <augiedoggie> stickey s key?[02:30:05] <Disreali> tiffany352: allergic?[02:30:17] <Disreali> augiedoggie: yes[02:30:25] <tiffany352> no[02:30:44] *** amo3 has joined #haiku[02:32:19] <Disreali> augiedoggie; I just got this keyboard cleaned up after 'someone' spilled a cappuccino[02:33:03] <augiedoggie> my old one was beyond cleaning, ended up getting a new one[02:33:19] <mmadia> an HHH keyboard?[02:34:39] <Disreali> what is an HHH keyboard?[02:36:03] <mmadia> http://www.freelists.org/archive/haiku/2009-08 "Shortcut keys in menus etc" -- but the server is 500'ing at the moment.[02:40:48] *** Will07c5 has joined #haiku[02:58:45] *** heroid has quit IRC[03:00:39] *** tiffany352 has quit IRC[03:11:42] *** bryan_w has quit IRC[03:24:06] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[03:26:19] *** Disreali has quit IRC[03:28:39] *** trn has joined #haiku[03:38:11] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[03:52:13] *** Geoz|lap has quit IRC[03:53:58] *** looncraz has joined #haiku[03:57:15] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[04:00:54] *** Nozy has quit IRC[04:01:58] *** Barrett has quit IRC[04:03:34] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[04:12:00] *** mmadia has quit IRC[04:20:11] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[04:24:47] *** looncraz has quit IRC[04:39:32] *** MAX2 has quit IRC[04:43:10] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[04:43:21] *** Barrett has quit IRC[04:46:54] *** rakshasa_ has joined #haiku[04:50:02] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[04:59:33] *** Stellar has joined #haiku[05:10:44] *** rakshasa_ has quit IRC[05:13:50] *** rakshasa_ has joined #haiku[05:24:13] *** asb has quit IRC[05:27:59] *** asb has joined #haiku[05:31:22] *** rakshasa_ has quit IRC[05:42:46] *** sotrud_nik has joined #haiku[05:45:33] <sotrud_nik> hi[05:45:56] *** ianj has quit IRC[05:53:10] *** sotrud_nik has left #haiku[05:56:17] *** Nozy has quit IRC[06:01:31] *** Jessica_lily has quit IRC[06:11:33] *** escoloader has joined #haiku[06:21:52] *** sotrud_nik has joined #haiku[06:25:01] *** rakshasa_ has joined #haiku[06:41:11] *** kurain has joined #haiku[06:44:06] *** brianb_ has quit IRC[06:47:15] *** xplt has joined #haiku[06:57:05] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[06:59:05] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[06:59:45] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[07:17:17] *** brianb has joined #haiku[07:22:30] <escoloader> i mounted the haiku iso, then burned it, but i keep getting a "fatal error: no bootable media found" in virtual box[07:23:08] <escoloader> what's the deal?[07:23:30] <OmniMancer> why are you burning things for virtual box?[07:28:04] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[07:29:15] <kurain> escoloader: you can just use this iso image for virtual box[07:29:33] <OmniMancer> indeed[07:29:35] <kurain> don't have to burn it to CD[07:29:42] <OmniMancer> also what did you download escoloader?[07:29:53] <escoloader> yeah, but i like having it on cd, and out of my main hd space :)[07:30:02] <escoloader> r1a2[07:30:09] <kurain> if you true burn it to CD, you should mount this cd for virtual box[07:30:24] <escoloader> i did[07:30:38] <escoloader> ive done the same thing for dozens of OSs before[07:30:40] <kurain> oh[07:30:55] <kurain> hmmm.[07:31:11] <escoloader> sometimes i just have to reset the vm, but this time to no avail[07:31:20] <augiedoggie> what software did you burn with?[07:31:41] <augiedoggie> nvm, that problem is with the anyboot images only[07:32:14] <OmniMancer> augiedoggie: you can have problems burning ISOs too[07:32:22] <escoloader> i used disk utility[07:32:24] <OmniMancer> escoloader: what did you burn it with and did you verify it?[07:32:26] <escoloader> but with a test burn as well[07:32:31] <escoloader> yep[07:32:34] <OmniMancer> "disc utility"[07:32:39] <OmniMancer> what is that?[07:32:40] <augiedoggie> yeah, but I meant the particular one with cdburnerxp and others burning anyboots[07:32:48] <augiedoggie> on a mac?[07:32:52] <escoloader> built in burn from finder in osx[07:32:53] <escoloader> yea[07:32:56] <OmniMancer> ah[07:33:02] <OmniMancer> yes never EVER EVER do that[07:33:06] <escoloader> ...[07:33:11] <OmniMancer> not with OS ISOs[07:33:22] <OmniMancer> mac thinks its smarter than you[07:33:29] <escoloader> it's not fancy, but its more efficient than toast[07:33:47] <escoloader> wait, this is news to me, why not?[07:33:49] <OmniMancer> use something that will burn the image verbatum[07:34:12] <OmniMancer> not sure exactly what software it is[07:34:46] <OmniMancer> mac tries to be clever about burning stuff and ends up breaking some things[07:35:17] <augiedoggie> I haven't used it in a while but "Burn" used to be pretty good[07:35:39] <OmniMancer> it does especially bad things to the anyboot images[07:35:42] <escoloader> yeah, ill just use toast for this[07:35:42] <augiedoggie> I've never tried it with a Haiku ISO though[07:35:57] <OmniMancer> but I think people have had issues with normal ISOs with it too[07:36:13] <escoloader> huh, i've never had problems before[07:36:19] <augiedoggie> if you're going to burn another one, you might want something newer[07:36:27] <OmniMancer> escoloader: before you do what happens if you md5sum the first imagesize bytes of the CD and compare it to the image?[07:37:51] <escoloader> im already burning another....[07:38:34] <augiedoggie> ok, have you read the Release Addendum? there are issues with installing A2 from CD[07:39:25] <escoloader> hey, just another question, whats the best system to select Haiku as in VBox, any better option that "other"?[07:39:30] <escoloader> oh, is there?[07:39:53] <augiedoggie> other is fine, but use the intel network adapter emulation[07:40:38] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[07:41:02] <augiedoggie> http://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/R1/Alpha2/ReleaseAddendum[07:42:31] *** fengshaun_ has joined #haiku[07:42:33] *** fengshaun has quit IRC[07:42:33] *** fengshaun_ has quit IRC[07:42:39] *** fengshaun has joined #haiku[07:44:04] <escoloader> oh sweet jesus![07:44:09] <escoloader> its loading up[07:44:37] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[07:46:20] <escoloader> hey, on making a partition...[07:46:31] <escoloader> ...while i've got you guys here...[07:46:54] <escoloader> should i make the vdrive a bfs or intel parition map?[07:47:30] <OmniMancer> I usually just use multiple virtual drives each with just bfs[07:48:59] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[07:49:10] <escoloader> yeah, i've only got one vd set up atm[07:49:32] <escoloader> so far, this seems like a pretty fast install[07:49:40] <escoloader> :)[07:49:52] *** trn has quit IRC[07:50:30] <escoloader> will i get internet connection automatically through vbox's network access?[07:51:38] <OmniMancer> yes as long as you use an intel card for the network adapter in vbox[07:52:05] <escoloader> cool beans[07:53:01] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[07:58:37] *** Nozy has quit IRC[08:01:40] *** DrHouse|Kerrigan has joined #haiku[08:05:26] *** asb has quit IRC[08:06:22] 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get the latest nightly booting off a hdd. i have an old laptop i want to install to. i have an anyboot inage and am about to put it onto a usb stick but does it include an installer? or is it just the equiv to a live linux disk/iso[13:00:45] <OmniMancer> it includes an installer[13:02:58] <damian-j> ahh thank you. awesme. i have checkedmy hardware compatibility and surprisingly EVERYTHING is supported so imhappy enough to use it :)[13:03:29] <damian-j> installing to an oldish core2 1.6ghz[13:05:01] <NeonLicht> Oldish? Dude, that's newer than any box I own. :D[13:06:01] <OmniMancer> :P[13:06:16] *** b0nes65 has joined #haiku[13:07:36] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[13:08:14] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[13:09:54] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[13:10:03] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[13:10:20] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[13:11:00] *** Nozy has quit IRC[13:11:04] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[13:11:42] <damian-j> ahh this laptops been mistrated my its previous owner, looks much older lol[13:12:43] *** damian-j has quit IRC[13:14:19] *** damian-j has joined #haiku[13:15:27] <damian-j> hmm im trying to download the win32diskimager and the file is corrupted. tried many times & all i get is "unexpected ent of archive. anyone got a copy they can send to me[13:18:26] <sotrud_nik> i got another trouble - Haiku doesn't work on Atom N450 CPU[13:18:43] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[13:19:17] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[13:19:17] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[13:19:21] <OmniMancer> sotrud_nik: define "doesn't work"[13:19:25] *** lollo64it has quit IRC[13:19:53] <sotrud_nik> Only vesa mode works.[13:20:01] <sotrud_nik> I've reported a bugreport[13:20:05] <sotrud_nik> yesterday[13:20:06] *** TomMan81 is now known as TomManAway[13:20:19] <OmniMancer> sotrud_nik: that does not qualify as doesn't work[13:20:32] <surrounder> + it has nothing to do with the CPU[13:21:00] <sotrud_nik> surrounder, actually, Atom has VC integrated in CPU[13:21:08] <sotrud_nik> OmniMancer, sorry, my mistake[13:22:03] <surrounder> "Integrated graphics with N45o Atom is Intel GMA 3150 which is 45 nm version of the GMA 3100."[13:22:05] <OmniMancer> sotrud_nik: still nothing to do with the CPU[13:23:37] *** Hubert_ has joined #haiku[13:24:35] *** ereslibre_laptop has joined #haiku[13:26:07] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[13:26:09] <sotrud_nik> whatever[13:26:15] <phoudoin> sotrud_nik: Haiku doesn't support N450's integrated GMA 3150 natively, that right. But you still can run Haiku in Vesa mode[13:26:54] <phoudoin> What you will lost is native resolution, which may or may not an issue, depending on your display resolution.[13:27:16] <OmniMancer> also depending how much it annoys you[13:27:38] <sotrud_nik> there is no hardware accelereration, right?[13:28:48] <phoudoin> nope, but as Haiku don't use that much 2D hardware acceleration anyway...[13:29:14] <phoudoin> even when we do have a native driver, it's more for display mode settings than anything else.[13:29:38] <HeTo> is that one of those controllers Intel bought from outside and didn't write an open-source driver for X, either?[13:29:57] <surrounder> that's poulsbo iirc[13:30:02] <phoudoin> dunno[13:30:09] <surrounder> gma 3500[13:30:19] <sotrud_nik> someone reported about N450's video issue about 9 months ago, but it was closed with 'should work' reason[13:30:26] <surrounder> HeTo: ah, gma500[13:30:39] <surrounder> HeTo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#GMA_500_on_Linux[13:30:41] <phoudoin> I doubt Intel don't provide some open source for Linux world for this cheap processor, thought[13:30:43] <HeTo> ah, so there is hope it would work[13:33:40] *** lollo64it has joined #haiku[13:35:03] *** TomManAway is now known as TomMan81[13:35:19] <phoudoin> sotrud_nik: what is your native resolution?[13:35:26] <sotrud_nik> 1024x600[13:35:34] <sotrud_nik> it's a netbook[13:37:29] <phoudoin> the driver failed to read resolution from EDID for both vga port (expected) and lcd panel (unexpected), but correctly read from bios the native resolution.[13:37:50] <phoudoin> So the issue should be more in settings the display mode, nothing much more.[13:38:23] <phoudoin> As I don't own any N450-based netbook, I can't dive deeper into this issue, alas.[13:38:55] <sotrud_nik> phoudoin, you're looking into bugreport?[13:39:03] <phoudoin> I guess checking how this display mode is set up in X driver will help[13:39:12] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:39:16] <phoudoin> sotrud_nik: of course I'm looking at your bugreport :-)[13:39:45] <phoudoin> but please don't hold your breath ;-)[13:39:53] <sotrud_nik> phoudoin, sure[13:45:30] <sotrud_nik> it's very sad([13:46:35] <damian-j> http://edc.intel.com/Software/Downloads/EMGD/[13:47:16] *** diver has quit IRC[13:48:43] <damian-j> isnt the source for emgd available? it fully supports gma500[13:50:16] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[13:50:19] <damian-j> https://launchpad.net/~gma500/+archive/emgd[13:53:46] <damian-j> should be of some use[13:55:11] *** The123king has joined #haiku[13:57:11] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[13:57:19] <sotrud_nik> ok gotta go[13:57:21] <sotrud_nik> by[13:57:25] *** sotrud_nik has left #haiku[13:58:00] *** damian-j has quit IRC[14:03:58] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[14:13:56] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[14:15:28] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[14:21:44] *** fengshaun has quit IRC[14:27:44] *** impy has quit IRC[14:30:39] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[14:31:32] <phoudoin> according device ID from sotrud_nik syslog, it's GMA 3150, not GMA 500[14:36:30] <OmniMancer> but is that equivalent?[14:36:36] *** Stellar has joined #haiku[14:37:17] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[14:38:17] *** b0nes65 has quit IRC[14:42:10] *** impy has joined #haiku[14:47:03] <phoudoin> OmniMancer: nope[14:47:21] <phoudoin> GMA500 is not made by Intel[14:47:59] <phoudoin> But was bought from PowerVR[14:48:22] <phoudoin> which leads to a weaker support under open source systems[14:48:48] <OmniMancer> ah[14:48:50] <phoudoin> the GMA 3150 is an Intel's in-house made graphics core[14:48:56] <OmniMancer> okay[14:49:03] <phoudoin> mostly an evolution of the G33[14:49:15] <OmniMancer> okay[14:49:31] <phoudoin> of the G33's chipset embedded graphic core, I mean[14:51:30] <OmniMancer> there are references for such things for doing mode setting though?[14:51:58] <phoudoin> what do mean?[14:54:16] <phoudoin> I guess the issue is again some subtil difference in PLL settings to compute right[14:55:57] <OmniMancer> I mean there is an opensource driver for it you could reference for how to deal with this right?[14:57:12] <phoudoin> Oh. The usual xf86-video-intel, I guess[15:00:09] <phoudoin> interrested enough, his GMA3150 publish two device functions : one for VGA compatible interface, the other for non-VGA one.[15:00:31] <phoudoin> And AFAIK, our intel_extrem detect only the first one.[15:00:52] <phoudoin> Maybe it try to set display mode on the wrong *device* interface[15:00:56] <OmniMancer> ah[15:01:08] <OmniMancer> that would make some kind of sense[15:10:29] <phoudoin> does anyone hav experience with Haiku's NFS support (mount_nfs, etc)[15:10:32] <phoudoin> have[15:32:52] <phoudoin> that will answer my question :-)[15:37:19] *** kPb_in_ has joined #haiku[15:37:20] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[15:37:22] *** kPb_in_ is now known as kPb_in[15:39:28] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[15:39:40] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[15:43:25] <mmu_man> phoudoin: it's buggy and unfinished[15:46:50] *** kPb_in has quit IRC[15:48:53] <phoudoin> mmu_man: okay, thanks, I'll mount my office home under Linux then (was just hoping I could stay under Haiku to do work developement too :-\ )[15:54:06] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[16:01:44] *** backb0ne_ has joined #haiku[16:01:45] *** backb0ne has quit IRC[16:04:07] *** J-Ho has left #haiku[16:05:09] *** backb0ne_ has quit IRC[16:13:16] <mmu_man> phoudoin: you can patch it :p[16:15:14] *** gentest has joined #haiku[16:15:28] *** gentest has left #haiku[16:17:15] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[16:19:54] *** negusnyul has quit IRC[16:20:15] *** negusnyul has joined #haiku[16:24:02] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[16:26:30] *** |WiZ| has quit IRC[16:34:56] *** elliottcable is now known as ec|detached[16:38:49] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[16:58:56] *** Hubert_ has quit IRC[16:59:40] *** damian-j has joined #haiku[17:01:11] <damian-j> hi, ok so im still trying to get haiku installed couple errors. i click wifi in the top left (usb iumage) shows my network fine BUT clicking on the network brings the error: couild not join wireless network: operation not allowed[17:01:38] <GeneralMaximus> how do i install a ttf font?[17:02:21] <GeneralMaximus> just drop them in the fonts directory?[17:02:21] *** kurain has joined #haiku[17:03:58] <phoudoin> yep[17:04:00] <umccullough> GeneralMaximus, that's usually how it works[17:04:23] <GeneralMaximus> cool, it's working :)[17:04:37] <phoudoin> IIRC, under BeOS fonts dropped in system folder were not detected live, though ;-)[17:04:46] <damian-j> also im trying to install, using DriveSetup i am trying to delete ALL partitions every time i try to delete one it tells me "there was an error preparing the disk for modifications. Error: invalid argument" very cryptic messages and im new to haiku can anyone suggest something?[17:05:26] <umccullough> maybe run DriveSetup from terminal and see if there's more output[17:05:58] <phoudoin> damian-j: may I suggest that you file a bug report for these DriveSetup errors and then remove these partitions under Linux or Windows?[17:06:21] <umccullough> phoudoin, without good info, the bug is gonna be useless i suspect[17:06:31] <umccullough> at least, once he destroys the partitions ;)[17:07:00] <damian-j> ok, i did find a bug filed in 2008[17:07:01] <damian-j> http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/haiku-bugs/2008-July/008998.html[17:07:09] <umccullough> aha[17:07:21] <umccullough> what ticket# ?[17:07:27] <phoudoin> the info is not useless for developers: DriveSetup partitions deletion feature needs more work.[17:07:41] <umccullough> phoudoin, sure, but without a test case...[17:07:48] <damian-j> not sure how it relates to my error. is their any may of viewing output so i may add further info to the report[17:08:01] <umccullough> damian-j, run DriveSetup from terminal and see what pops up there[17:08:06] <umccullough> and possibly syslog[17:08:19] <damian-j> ah awesome, thanks[17:08:33] *** Will07c5 has joined #haiku[17:08:50] <damian-j> can i partition and format in bfs from say an ubuntu live disk, i hjave never actially checked if it has support[17:09:17] <umccullough> no, but you can partition, then boot haiku and format with DriveSetup[17:09:30] <umccullough> or, delete all partitions with ubuntu, then boot haiku and partition with DriveSeutp[17:09:55] <umccullough> damian-j, that ticket comment is from stippi, and the ticket was opened by meanwhile[17:09:59] <umccullough> are you sure that's your bug?[17:10:01] *** Malmis_ has quit IRC[17:10:02] <phoudoin> damian-j: in your ticket, please dump as much as possible about your disk partition tables (a dump from gparted under Linux will do it too)[17:10:27] <umccullough> damian-j, nevermind, i read your message above wrong :)[17:10:41] <umccullough> i thgouth you said you "filed" a bug[17:10:43] <umccullough> my mistake[17:11:09] <damian-j> thats not my bug, but its one i found with the same error, should i open a new one with my logs and dumps or add further info to that one[17:12:38] <damian-j> also anyone know the status of intel 3945abg wireless. i suspect its not fully implemented and thats why im getting errors[17:13:01] <umccullough> did you install the firmwares?[17:13:41] <umccullough> regardless, you won't be able to use WPA/WPA2 encryption on any wifi cards[17:16:00] <umccullough> anyway, if you havne't yet, install the wifi firmwares[17:16:06] <damian-j> i did, thats ok my network is wpa2, i dont mind using a cable :) thanks[17:16:15] <umccullough> ok[17:16:41] <umccullough> and now i must go, good luck :)[17:18:39] <GeneralMaximus> hm, strange. i can't set font size in GVim.[17:18:54] <GeneralMaximus> :set guifont=Anonymous:h11 gives me "invalid font"[17:19:03] <GeneralMaximus> though just setting the font works[17:19:33] *** Will07c5 has quit IRC[17:23:25] *** backb0ne has joined #haiku[17:23:34] *** ukev has joined #haiku[17:23:42] *** kPb_in has joined #haiku[17:26:11] *** dflemstr has joined #haiku[17:27:44] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[17:27:44] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[17:29:02] *** ereslibre_laptop has quit IRC[17:31:11] *** The123king has quit IRC[17:32:21] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[17:34:11] *** The123king has joined #haiku[17:34:33] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[17:34:33] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[17:36:02] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[17:36:13] *** The123king has quit IRC[17:37:14] *** ereslibre has joined #haiku[17:37:26] *** ereslibre has quit IRC[17:38:47] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:41:47] *** The123king has joined #haiku[17:44:26] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[17:53:26] *** dflemstr_ has joined #haiku[17:55:40] *** Malmis has joined #haiku[17:55:59] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[17:58:00] *** damian-j has quit 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I haven't had any issues besides that[18:57:54] <Telstar> it was on an IBM T30 with external display[18:58:36] <home-alone> no mean at what stage it is ..??? I have tried it at Alpha r1 stage it was stable and responsive[18:59:10] <home-alone> I want to contribute in it[18:59:43] <Telstar> well, i gotta say i love haikuporter. That opens up the world of ./configure && make && make install :D[19:02:29] <home-alone> what it takes to become a haiku developer[19:05:28] <Telstar> dunno', i'm not one.. for i'm a beginner in programming[19:06:27] <yourpalal> home-alone: There is a nice guide to getting involved with Haiku here: http://www.haiku-os.org/development/getting-started[19:08:10] *** adominguez has quit IRC[19:09:17] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[19:09:46] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[19:09:53] <phoudoin> home-alone: well, recent build are way more better and stable than alpha1, so you should risk nothing at trying a recent build.[19:10:08] <phoudoin> Download one from haiku-files.org[19:10:13] * phoudoin away[19:10:18] *** phoudoin has quit IRC[19:19:30] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[19:19:36] <home-alone> its still alpha r1[19:19:41] *** DrHouse|Hyperion has joined #haiku[19:20:18] *** yourpalal has quit IRC[19:21:13] <Telstar> http://haiku-os.org/ there's alpha 2[19:21:45] <Telstar> oh, yes. my bad[19:22:09] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[19:23:00] <kirilla> the R1A2 is almost a year old[19:23:27] <kirilla> home-alone, Telstar: there are nightly images over at http://www.haiku-files.org/.[19:23:30] <Telstar> R1/alpha 2 released may 2010 :\[19:24:18] <kirilla> The nightlies are usually stable.[19:25:32] <kirilla> I believe we meant to release the Alpha 3 before the summer, but the schedule slipped, and now Google Summer of Code is the priority.[19:26:10] *** home-alone has quit IRC[19:26:48] <Telstar> sure. congrats for getting accepted[19:27:58] <kirilla> thanks :) we've been lucky to be accepted a handful of years![19:28:23] *** dflemstr_ has quit IRC[19:28:57] <CIA-81> HaikuPorts: scottmc * r1501 /haikuports/trunk/dev-util/pkgconfig/pkgconfig-0.25.bep: Fixed directories for pkgconfig.[19:30:17] <kirilla> bbl[19:30:18] *** kirilla has quit IRC[19:36:15] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[19:37:01] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[19:45:47] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[19:46:11] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[19:49:33] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[19:50:29] *** Tekk_ has joined #haiku[19:52:53] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[20:03:19] *** kirilla has quit IRC[20:03:47] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[20:04:25] *** dru_ has quit IRC[20:04:33] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[20:05:26] *** heroid has joined #haiku[20:09:23] <CIA-81> Haiku: kirilla * r41242 /haiku/trunk/headers/os/support/String.h: Add BString::IsEmpty() method.[20:12:27] *** Disreali has quit IRC[20:14:27] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[20:23:44] *** yourpalal has joined #haiku[20:24:53] *** Pinaraf has joined #haiku[20:30:24] <CIA-81> Haiku: kirilla * r41243 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/input_server/devices/keyboard/ (5 files):[20:30:24] <CIA-81> Localization. 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