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[00:18:25] <ripclaw> hi all -  building hybrid on ubuntu drives me mad.... :(
[00:18:41] <mmadia> what's going wrong?
[00:18:53] <mmadia> is this ubuntu 64 or 32bit?
[00:19:20] <ripclaw> hi mmadia - i have a script, it runs under ubuntu 32 9.10 in parallels, but appearantly after building bin, image fails.
[00:19:33] <ripclaw> it compiles, but i get no image.
[00:19:48] <mmadia> how does it fail?  how did you configure it, what's your jam command?
[00:20:19] <ripclaw> is there a place like a pastebin for this channel ? don't want to paste bash in here..
[00:20:39] <mmadia> http://pastebin.com/
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[00:24:56] <ripclaw> http://pastebin.com/zdUwYaTx
[00:25:54] <ripclaw> i guess i am jamming badly, but i don't understand that part (not make, want to build anyboot, nightly-raw and vmdk hybrids)
[00:26:01] <mmadia> iirc, you should run configure with a relative path, instead of a full path.
[00:27:51] <ripclaw> that sounds like eeew... ok, will remove attribs and change code & try again. you still in here for a while ?
[00:28:01] <mmadia> whats   jam -v report?
[00:29:08] <augiedoggie> the CROSSTOOLS_FLAG is basically the same for both toolchains
[00:29:27] <mmadia> good catch.
[00:30:08] <ripclaw> before i forget ... relative to where (configure)
[00:30:50] <mmadia> cd  haiku/generated.x86gcc2
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[00:31:00] <mmadia> ../configure $FLAGS
[00:31:12] <ripclaw> jam 2.5-haiku-20090626. OS=LINUX. Copyright 1993-2002 Christopher Seiwald
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[00:33:43] <augiedoggie> and it looks like you're setting the alternative dir to the same one you're in
[00:40:36] <ripclaw> basically i start of in ~/haiku-src, cd to the arch-to-compile, configure (with the current path).
[00:40:57] <ripclaw> so the alternative dir needs to point to the "inverse gcc".
[00:41:26] <ripclaw> ok, i think i see whats going wrong. gimme a sec to fix & restart.
[00:43:34] <mmadia> http://haiku-os.org/guides/building/gcc-hybrid  this should help ripclaw
[00:43:43] <ripclaw> one more error - i set bad flags for the build-cross-tools
[00:44:14] <ripclaw> mmadia this is the page i read before thinking about writing the script, because it messes my brain to type that stuff anew each time.
[00:44:32] <ripclaw> i try to automate setting up a build on ubuntu. (regression testing)
[00:45:44] <mmadia> http://dev.osdrawer.net/projects/haikubuildomatic/repository/show/branches/rewrite2
[00:45:58] <mmadia> this is the current python script for regression testing and providing the nightly images.
[00:46:19] <mmadia> i use it on FreeBSD and have briefly tested it on some linux distro.
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[00:49:13] <ripclaw> http://pastebin.com/a7CnmCkE   - modified.
[00:49:39] <ripclaw> i do not trust python (cannot read it). but i'll fetch that. thanks.
[00:49:53] <mmadia>  CROSSTOOLS_FLAG="--build-cross-tools-gcc4"   -->   CROSSTOOLS_FLAG="--build-cross-tools"  #for x86gcc2
[00:50:12] <ripclaw> yes, fixed that in the new paste already.
[00:50:47] <ripclaw> restarted build, guess it will take about an hour to see output. running too many VMs...
[00:51:06] <mmadia>  $CROSSTOOLS_FLAG $HAIKU_DIR/buildtools/ \     # this will clobber the binaries for the cross-tools.
[00:51:37] <augiedoggie> that paste was exactly the same as the first
[00:51:48] <mmadia> wait, that entire line is wrong.
[00:51:53] <ripclaw> sorry, but i do not understand "clobber". my english is not that good.
[00:52:31] <mmadia> there's a   --build-cross-tools  option  and an  --alternative-gcc-output-dir <dir>
[00:52:56] <mmadia> clobber... some type of destruction, i guess :)
[00:53:25] <ripclaw> sorry, did get the wrong copy of the script. should have been http://pastebin.com/jrCBEUR5
[00:53:37] <ripclaw> (i scp them from the VM to desktop)
[00:54:05] <mmadia>  $CROSSTOOLS_FLAG ../buildtools/ \   #  should be simply   $CROSSTOOLS_FLAGS
[00:54:07] <augiedoggie> it's not using the ALTERNATE_DIR variable
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[00:55:14] <DiGiTal> Hi!
[00:55:34] <DiGiTal> why in Haiku O_LARGEFILE is not defined y libc?
[00:56:00] <DiGiTal> and why O_LARGEFILE is equal to zero?
[00:56:36] <mmadia> that may be better asked on http://www.freelists.org/list/haiku-development , DiGiTal
[00:56:58] <DiGiTal> hmm
[00:56:59] <DiGiTal> ok
[00:57:18] <DiGiTal> thx!
[00:57:21] <ripclaw> mmadia augiedoggie - http://pastebin.com/9F5s6nFf  - uses alternate_dir
[00:58:32] <mmadia>  $CROSSTOOLS_FLAG ../buildtools/ \   #  should be simply   $CROSSTOOLS_FLAGS
[00:59:05] <mmadia> also, you only need to build the cross-tools once.
[00:59:15] <mmadia> after that, you can use   --cross-tools-prefix
[01:00:28] <ripclaw> mmadia - http://haiku-os.org/guides/building/configure says it is flag <arch> <path> for that param.
[01:00:49] <ripclaw> augiedoggie check last paste - http://pastebin.com/9F5s6nFf
[01:01:07] <ripclaw> sorry, wrong line ...
[01:01:09] <mmadia> ripclaw : indeed,  my mistake.
[01:01:45] <mmadia> in that case,line  18 should be  $CROSSTOOLS_FLAG . \
[01:02:08] <mmadia> eg, output the binaries into the generated.$arch dir.
[01:02:13] <ripclaw> if i read my code correctly, i build a gcc4 hybrid with gcc2 libs and vice versa. code may be running duplicates, but the intent is to allow it to run on any new and empty VM
[01:03:06] <ripclaw> when i built non-hybrids, ../buildtools was output target. docs did not say where it has to be...
[01:03:12] <mmadia> if you want the script to run on Haiku, then you'd need to detect the HOST_OS.
[01:03:27] <ripclaw> generated arch/buildtools or arch/.
[01:04:01] <ripclaw> i'll gladly put that in, but currently i base the build on ubuntu, because WEP/WPA doesnt workin haiku
[01:04:06] <mmadia> either or is fine, as long as x86gcc4 and x86gcc2 have different directories for the binaries of the build tools.
[01:04:09] <ripclaw> which means no internet.
[01:04:28] <ripclaw> currently they have same dir. so better i fix that.
[01:04:32] <mmadia> lemme dig up a bash script of my own, this may save you time.
[01:06:29] <ripclaw> thnx, sorry for beeing a bit off-track after that long day. feel free to use my script for anything u want. e.g. website.
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[01:14:34] <ripclaw> basic idea was to enable people to just install ubuntu into a vm, run a script and be ready to help with haiku
[01:14:34] <mmadia> man, i used to have my initial bash implementation of build-o-matic laying around somewhere.
[01:14:59] <ripclaw> bash because it is something most people understand...
[01:15:49] <ripclaw> when this works, i can have a "per revision nightly" and my own dev tree to compile, and start messing with WEP/WPA or gfx.
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[01:16:46] <mmadia> you could also look into setting up your own build-o-matic ;)
[01:16:57] <mmadia> http://pastebin.com/5h1nWary  --- here's that script i was looking for.
[01:17:21] <ripclaw> i can start a new VM clone for each revision and start that off..   build-o-matic is something i do not understand enough (python) and will have problems fixing.
[01:17:37] <ripclaw> python is anathema to me, sorry... ^^
[01:17:51] <augiedoggie> heh, "jammin" @290
[01:18:24] * augiedoggie starts singing some marley
[01:18:56] <ripclaw> mmadia - do i just read right and this x-compiles to ppc et al ? i'll give it a try
[01:19:22] <mmadia> i haven't looked at that script in almost 2 years, ripclaw.
[01:19:48] <ripclaw> mmadia - if i find a bug, may i keep that bug and upload a fix somewhere ?
[01:19:49] <mmadia> # SVN Source Tree URLS   --- should be updated to use haiku's servers
[01:20:42] <mmadia> if you want, i don't have plans to work on that bash script.
[01:21:37] <ripclaw> n/p i have some time to spare... ^^  that plus it should do what i was planning to re-implement.
[01:22:07] <ripclaw> i think i can upload it to sourceforge or rocklinux, iirc.
[01:22:17] <ripclaw> ... need coffee. brb
[01:22:19] <mmadia> or dev.osdrawer.net
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[01:23:08] <ripclaw> i do not have an account on dev.osdrawer.net
[01:23:33] <mmadia> they're free.  hosting of code is free too.
[01:24:15] <ripclaw> who's running that infrastructure ? for berlios and sf that part is clear. for rocklinux, too.
[01:24:39] <mmadia> plfiorini and some other users.
[01:25:23] <Barrett|Haiku> it's a dedicated server
[01:25:32] <Barrett|Haiku> where is hosted also haiku-os.it
[01:25:33] <ripclaw> ok... should be fine with me...   btw, i was following the package discussion... rocklinux made use of .gem for system packages, cool format.
[01:25:44] <Barrett|Haiku> it's provided by atomozero (andrea bernardi)
[01:26:04] <mmadia> i'm going to suggest  .leaf later.
[01:26:30] <ripclaw> .gem is "grep" parseable... usefull feature sometimes...
[01:27:00] <ripclaw> the entire build toolkit from rocklinux was mostly shell. could create different OS depending on input file...
[01:27:21] <ripclaw> what's in .leaf on the format side ?
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[01:50:35] <mmadia> http://haiku-os.org/blog/zooey  should have more information on the package format, ripclaw.
[01:51:24] <mmadia> currently it's called .hpkg, but i'm meaning to suggest using  ".leaf" instead ... ties into the Haiku theme and logo.
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[02:22:02] <ripclaw> mmadia sounds like a good idea...
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[02:27:47] <looncraz> Man, freenode is lagging something fierce for me...
[02:28:01] <mmadia> hey looncraz.  how's it been?
[02:29:00] <looncraz> mmadia Terrible, mostly.
[02:29:00] <looncraz> et tu?
[02:29:20] <mmadia> ich bin mude.
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[02:30:45] <looncraz> I hear that!\
[02:32:12] <looncraz> I'm working on a simple little patch to the app_server and libbe.so for the decorators so I can see updates as I make them
[02:32:49] <looncraz> Not planning on going 'live,' though that is not out of the question, I think it would be absolute overkill
[02:33:14] * looncraz you are absolutely right - you don't change decorators THAT often...
[02:33:17] <looncraz> That is what I was thinking *
[02:33:20] <ripclaw> mmadia spricht deutsch ?
[02:33:35] <mmadia> veile kleine.  ;)
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[02:33:51] <ripclaw> holas...
[02:34:27] <ripclaw> (they are watching breakpoint demo again... grrr.. i came here to code)
[02:35:28] <looncraz> I may need to look for the cause of a few glitches in Stack & Tile as well... but I just may not worry about it..
[02:36:45] <looncraz> I can't start until I clone my source tree though.... 20mins to go...
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[02:40:41] <looncraz> wow.. bad spelling here *
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[02:45:52] <looncraz> Oh, mmadia, I was told to tell you that we were off-topic in the other channel... apparently you like that :-)
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[03:35:32] <looncraz> lol
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[04:34:46] <CIA-81> Caya GPL Protocols: barrett * r19 /trunk/protocols/ (msn/MSN.cpp xmpp/JabberHandler.cpp): cleanup...now the xmpp thread will not suck your cpu
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[07:39:28] <Advant> anyone use hamachi ?
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[12:25:54] <plfiorini> 'morning
[12:26:20] <brobostigon> morning plfiorini
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[14:20:33] <CIA-81> Haiku: humdinger * r41207 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/screensaver/ScreenSaverWindow.cpp: Renamed a few strings as discussed in #7327 by applying xray's patch with a few additions. Closing #7327.
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[14:33:55] <CIA-81> Haiku: humdinger * r41208 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/screensaver/ScreenSaverWindow.cpp: Aligned strings and sliders by pushing them a few pixels here and there. But really, the whole app is in need of proper layouting using the layout API...
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[15:26:21] <leszek> hi
[15:31:46] <Barrett> hmm haikuware seems broken
[15:33:03] <leszek> Barrett: yep it is
[15:33:32] <Barrett> doh
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[15:34:22] <Barrett> I wanted to update the Caya package : (
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[15:40:04] <leszek> Barrett: isn't that also on the bebits.com page ?
[15:41:12] <Barrett> no
[15:41:53] <Barrett> however, there is no hurry
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[16:55:14] <ampharos> heh, I emulated Haiku at 500 Mhz in QEMU
[16:55:18] <ampharos> Ran like a dog
[16:55:29] <ampharos> It booted though, which it ddin't on physical hardware, so
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[19:44:18] <leszek> re
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