March 10, 2010 
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March 10, 2010 [00:02:54] *** H_MrSun has quit IRC[00:05:08] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[00:11:47] *** stippi has quit IRC[00:15:15] *** petterhj has quit IRC[00:19:56] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[00:20:28] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[00:20:41] *** drcouzelis has joined #haiku[00:30:38] <drcouzelis> I have a Haiku build area... Is there an easy way to include "Optional Packages" in a CD build?[00:30:48] *** martinhpedersen has joined #haiku[00:31:08] <drcouzelis> (wait, did that question make sense?) :P[00:32:09] <mmlr_mc> see build/jam/UserBuildConfig.*[00:33:12] <mmadia> make sure to include BasicCommandLineTools[00:33:58] <mmlr_mc> that really sucks btw[00:34:11] <mmlr_mc> as you don't have sed you can't use installoptionalpackage either[00:34:20] <mmlr_mc> so you really don't have a way to bootstrap it[00:34:56] *** martinhpedersen is now known as martinhpedersen_[00:35:01] <Skipp_OSX> mmlr_mc, why don't you have sed?[00:35:25] <Skipp_OSX> does it have something to do with the pointless argument about sed that is going on in the mailing list?[00:35:31] <mmadia> i've made a patch to include it in default images, i'm just waiting to hear from Ingo if he'd rather { include [ FDirName $(HAIKU_BUILD_RULES_DIR) OptionalPackageDependencies ] ; } occur in HaikuImage or within OptionalPackages itself.[00:36:05] <vooshy> did they decide which directory it was going in?[00:36:46] <mmadia> i don't think so.[00:36:46] <Skipp_OSX> did they decide if /boot/system is for read-only data only?[00:37:15] <drcouzelis> I've been following the "sed" problem. It's a fun one. :D[00:38:12] <drcouzelis> Thank you very much for the UserBuildConfig tip. I'll check it out.[00:40:05] <mmlr_mc> IMO it's ok to move everything non-essential out[00:40:35] <mmlr_mc> vim, telnet, even things like libjpeg and png could be added as build features like opensll[00:41:21] <mmlr_mc> but if you do then please make sure that it'll work and not produce broken images[00:41:43] *** diogen has joined #haiku[00:41:50] <mmlr_mc> which means either implement it as MandatoryPacakge, as build time feature or keep it in the tree[00:41:57] <mmlr_mc> but don't just break it[00:41:57] <mmadia> ... i really wasn't expecting the ticket to be acted on so quickly.[00:42:34] <mmlr_mc> yeah, I would've expected vim to be removed before sed in any case[00:43:17] <mmadia> the non-x86 ports also concern me.[00:43:38] <mmadia> granted they aren't the focus or even boot properly...[00:44:09] <mmadia> but moving everything out, without some way to allow cross compilation is another nail in their coffin.[00:44:40] <mmlr_mc> well I think these packages do allow for cross compilation though[00:45:58] <DraX> maybe[00:46:16] <DraX> consider freebsd ports and netbsd pkgsrc's attempts to make things cross compile[00:46:23] <DraX> it's pretty gruesome[00:47:31] <DraX> freebsd even has nightmares trying to get things to obey CFLAGS and CC[00:47:38] <Skipp_OSX> is the idea to make the Haiku base as small as possible by removing peripheral apps?[00:48:10] <ormandj> is there a driver for nvidia (nv18/geforce4 440) that'll get me out of vesa?[00:48:17] <mmadia> well, how is cross-compilation different than the way haiku's sources are being compiled on non-haiku?[00:48:35] <DraX> cross-compilation of haiku is fine since it supports it[00:48:43] <DraX> but a lot of software packages don't support it correctly[00:48:52] <mmlr_mc> the point is to move out external stuff[00:49:05] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[00:49:05] <mmadia> but those in haiku's repositories do, ...?[00:49:09] <mmlr_mc> things that are easier tracked and updated individually over at haikuports[00:49:30] <DraX> i presume they do[00:49:37] <DraX> but it's just something to be aware of[00:49:49] <mmadia> right, but ATM HaikuPorter is designed to run inside of Haiku[00:49:49] <DraX> as more optional packages show up it may become problematic[01:01:37] *** mmlr_mc has quit IRC[01:02:51] *** mmlr_mc has joined #haiku[01:06:57] *** Advant- has joined #haiku[01:07:59] *** Barrett_ has quit IRC[01:08:44] *** Advant has quit IRC[01:12:26] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[01:12:28] *** vooshy has quit IRC[01:13:34] *** diogen has quit IRC[01:15:33] *** margiolas has quit IRC[01:18:22] *** dancxjo1 has joined #haiku[01:19:28] *** dancxjo has quit IRC[01:22:39] *** PathagenX has joined #haiku[01:26:36] *** OlaHughson has quit IRC[01:30:22] <Skipp_OSX> I really need to setup a haiku git repo for mysel[01:33:28] <DraX> git.newos.org[01:34:46] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[01:35:26] <l_n> hrm.. i need to get the components for a 12/24 hr clock, but since i've never bought component level, i don't know what i need :-/[01:35:55] <l_n> i assume an rtc, filter, rectifier, regulator, etc[01:36:09] <l_n> the main part i'm clueless about is the clock chip.. dunno what to buy.[01:48:31] *** zmisc has joined #haiku[01:54:28] <zmisc> Does Haiku run in Sun VirtualBox correctly?[01:57:10] <mmlr_mc> it's supposed to, yeah[01:57:13] <DraX> generally yes, though i've been having issues[01:57:25] <DraX> things seem to randomly segfault[01:57:30] <zmisc> :([01:59:22] *** Megaf_ has joined #haiku[02:00:40] *** Megaf has quit IRC[02:03:07] <CIA-50> mmlr * r35796 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/input/usb_hid/ (5 files):[02:03:07] <CIA-50> Reworked the handler adding to be based on input reports. This way multiple[02:03:07] <CIA-50> handlers may be added to a single device if it provides more than one report[02:03:07] <CIA-50> for a kind of device. Should fix #5549 where two mouse reports are present[02:03:07] <CIA-50> and only the first one was picked up and made available as device.[02:03:19] *** DBAlex has joined #haiku[02:05:22] *** Koki_ has joined #haiku[02:06:11] <Koki_> hello folks[02:06:42] <zmisc> hello Koki_[02:06:47] <zmisc> how are you?[02:07:17] <Koki_> not bad zmisc, and you?[02:08:12] <zmisc> not doing too bad, got a decent amount of errands run today[02:08:57] <zmisc> just getting ready to try to run Haiku in a VM[02:09:01] <CIA-50> mmlr * r35797 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/input/usb_hid/KeyboardDevice.cpp:[02:09:01] <CIA-50> Add missing check for non-data items which lead to picking up some mice as[02:09:01] <CIA-50> keyboards due to buttons being padded by non-data arrays. The keys wouldn't[02:09:01] <CIA-50> actually be used later, but a (useless) keyboard device would still be[02:09:01] <CIA-50> published.[02:09:25] <zmisc> seems to be a pretty active project :D[02:10:14] *** Advant- is now known as Advant[02:12:21] *** triplez has quit IRC[02:15:42] <AlienSoldier> it is[02:15:42] *** mmlr_mc has quit IRC[02:15:45] <largo> ormandj: I have mine setup with grub to boot the usb stick. so I dd the nightly to the usb stick, pop it in, and then boot to the grub menu and choose "Haiku USB". :)[02:15:48] * largo is reading the backlog.[02:21:44] *** oco has quit IRC[02:23:22] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[02:24:23] <OmniMancer> can you check what wrieless networks are broadcasting in the area?[02:24:27] *** dancxjo1 has quit IRC[02:24:27] <OmniMancer> in haiku[02:24:44] <DraX> there was a tool calleed wlanconfig[02:24:52] <DraX> but it looks like colin didn't add it to trunk[02:25:07] <OmniMancer> :([02:25:09] <mmadia> no, i wasn't aware of it at the time.[02:25:09] <DraX> it's just an ioctl call away though ;)[02:25:40] *** blitzkrieg has joined #haiku[02:25:52] <OmniMancer> can i force it to connect to particular network?[02:26:11] <blitzkrieg> can anyone recomind a fully working web browser[02:26:17] <DraX> with wlanconfig[02:26:47] <DraX> see freebsd's src/sbin/ifconfig/ifieee80211.c:list_scan() function[02:26:48] <OmniMancer> and without that missing utility[02:27:00] <DraX> see freebsd's src/sbin/ifconfig/ifieee80211.c:list_scan() function[02:27:01] <DraX> ;)[02:27:11] <largo> blitzkrieg: in Haiku? if Webpositive is too unpolished for you, you could use BeZillaBrowser.[02:27:16] <OmniMancer> I have to write a C program to do it?[02:28:19] <DraX> http://dev.osdrawer.net/projects/haiku-wifi/files[02:28:20] <blitzkrieg> no need for polished[02:28:25] <DraX> haiku-wlanconfig might work[02:30:26] <mmadia> DraX : did you see the pastebin of build-setwep.sh?[02:30:42] <DraX> mmadia: did it change from last-night?[02:31:09] <mmadia> yes. http://haiku.pastebin.com/cCzNuuSw[02:31:35] <mmadia> i switched to simply svn exporting the directories. 4.9M[02:31:40] <blitzkrieg> largo: is there bin files some place for bezilla[02:32:07] <mmadia> blitzkrieg "installoptionalpackage -l"[02:32:07] <DraX> 4.9m wow[02:32:17] <DraX> mmadia: so when are you going to announce it? ;)[02:32:26] <mmadia> i just did :)[02:32:37] <DraX> on ml?[02:32:47] <mmadia> #haiku[02:32:54] * mmadia grins[02:33:35] *** zaunmayrc has quit IRC[02:34:15] <DraX> doesn't count :P[02:36:25] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[02:37:21] <mmadia> hopefully here can test it first.[02:38:31] <mmadia> *people here[02:38:40] <DraX> yeah[02:39:10] <OmniMancer> wlanconfig scan seems to be doing nothing...[02:39:43] <DraX> scan and list scan may be seperate commands[02:39:45] <DraX> *shrug*[02:40:06] <DraX> try wlanconfig help[02:40:51] <OmniMancer> help told me about scan show join ans some others[02:41:04] <OmniMancer> but by doing nothing i mean the program hasnt stopped running...[02:42:36] <Skipp_OSX> OmniMancer, it probably is expecting some input and is sitting and waiting for it[02:42:51] <CIA-50> scottmc * r631 /haikuports/trunk/sys-devel/flex/flex-2.5.35.bep: Initial .bep file for flex, marked as broken for now as haikuporter doesn't seem to be able to download it.[02:42:56] <Skipp_OSX> OmniMancer, kind of like if you forget to give grep a third argument[02:42:58] <OmniMancer> well its not expecting it from the terminal[02:43:33] *** triplez has joined #haiku[02:43:46] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[02:44:21] *** raichoo1 has joined #haiku[02:45:45] *** Nozy has quit IRC[02:46:01] *** raichoo has quit IRC[02:46:26] *** raichoo1 has quit IRC[02:48:05] <OmniMancer> I think the driver isnt working right :([02:48:48] <OmniMancer> the help also lists it as a command that takes no args[02:49:12] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[02:53:11] *** panopticon has quit IRC[02:54:00] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[02:55:20] <OmniMancer> DraX: waaaaaa, is there known intelpro wireless issues?[02:55:58] <DraX> *shrug*[02:56:07] * OmniMancer cries[02:56:09] <mmadia> what type of issues?[02:56:33] <mmadia> there's interrupt sharing issues with most, if not all of the wlan drivers.[02:58:05] <OmniMancer> the kind where wlanconfig hangs[02:58:45] <DraX> wlanconfig isn't even known to work[02:58:52] <OmniMancer> :/[02:58:55] <DraX> look at how ancient the revision number is[02:59:05] <OmniMancer> is there a newer one?[02:59:32] <DraX> not that i know of[03:00:20] <mmadia> you can dev.haiku-os.org/browser/haiku/branches/[03:00:29] <OmniMancer> :([03:00:39] <DraX> is it even on a branch?[03:01:39] <mmadia> there is developer/colin/[03:02:47] <DraX> but it does not include wlanconfig[03:04:21] <OmniMancer> does it have anything?[03:05:12] <DraX> it has some of a real wifi stack[03:06:18] <OmniMancer> ah[03:06:25] <OmniMancer> how long till we get a real wifi stack?[03:06:46] <DraX> *shrug*[03:07:18] * mmadia grabs nephews' alphabet blocks[03:07:59] <mmadia> damn, i made an ifiw stack.[03:08:19] <DraX> :D[03:08:46] <saivert> OmniMancer: feel free to submit a patch[03:08:53] <saivert> just joking[03:09:41] <OmniMancer> :P[03:09:47] <OmniMancer> or wait long enough[03:09:56] <OmniMancer> well haiku runs well on my laptop[03:21:57] <ormandj> largo: thanks. i'm sorted now, but that would have worked too, i'm sure :)[03:24:40] <largo> ah good. :)[03:26:28] *** OmniMancer1 has joined #haiku[03:26:36] *** OmniMancer has left #haiku[03:29:52] <OmniMancer1> well I don't have wireless yet :([03:30:04] <OmniMancer1> also does it have problems listing secured networks?[03:32:52] *** aldeck has quit IRC[03:33:57] *** PathagenX has quit IRC[03:39:13] *** jmayfield__ has joined #haiku[03:39:17] *** Koki_ has left #haiku[03:39:38] *** blitzkrieg has quit IRC[03:40:03] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[03:41:39] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[03:42:48] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[03:44:04] *** jmayfield__ has quit IRC[03:44:30] *** jmayfield__ has joined #haiku[03:49:01] <OmniMancer1> DraX: are you around?[03:54:32] *** jmayfield__ has quit IRC[03:58:04] *** kokito has joined #haiku[03:58:28] <kokito> greetings[03:58:48] *** panopticon has joined #haiku[03:59:51] *** kokito has left #haiku[04:00:05] <OmniMancer1> :/[04:00:39] *** MrBIOS-hm has quit IRC[04:00:39] *** Qeos has quit IRC[04:01:01] *** MrBIOS-hm has joined #haiku[04:02:35] *** jmayfield__ has joined #haiku[04:13:52] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:14:52] *** OmniMancer1 has quit IRC[04:15:58] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[04:16:06] *** devine_ has joined #haiku[04:17:31] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[04:18:14] *** HeTo_ has joined #haiku[04:18:15] *** kallisti6 has joined #haiku[04:20:58] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[04:22:24] *** surrounder has quit IRC[04:22:24] *** flameshadow has quit IRC[04:22:24] *** DDevine has quit IRC[04:22:24] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[04:22:24] *** kallisti5 has quit IRC[04:22:25] *** HeTo has quit IRC[04:22:39] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[04:24:49] *** pica has joined #haiku[04:24:49] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[04:24:49] *** flameshadow has joined #haiku[04:24:49] *** kallisti5 has joined #haiku[04:24:49] *** HeTo has joined #haiku[04:25:33] *** surrounder has quit IRC[04:25:33] *** flameshadow has quit IRC[04:25:33] *** kallisti5 has quit IRC[04:25:33] *** HeTo has quit IRC[04:25:35] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:30:19] *** kokito has joined #haiku[04:44:57] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[04:45:14] *** Bushmills has joined #haiku[04:45:31] <Bushmills> g'day[04:46:26] <kokito> g'day mate :)[04:50:04] <Skipp_OSX> that's what I get for coming here late at night... Australians[04:50:57] <DraX> i know, horrible isn't it?[04:51:01] <kokito> hehe :)[04:51:09] <Bushmills> will a humble Acer Aspire One 110L be enough? ( that's the non-harddisk, flash-only, 512 MiB RAM version)?[04:51:19] *** pica has quit IRC[04:51:39] <DraX> definetly for using haiku[04:51:50] <Bushmills> thought so. just wanted to be sure[04:51:51] <DraX> but you generally need a bit more ram to compile haiku itself[04:51:54] <kokito> should run nicely Bushmills[04:52:40] <Bushmills> that's my main computer, therefore :D[04:53:12] *** kallisti6 has quit IRC[04:57:29] *** kallisti5 has joined #haiku[04:58:16] *** flameshadow has joined #haiku[04:59:43] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[05:02:02] <DraX> MrSunshine: ping[05:03:50] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[05:08:00] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[05:08:16] *** Nozy has quit IRC[05:09:11] *** kokito has left #haiku[05:11:02] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[05:12:12] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[05:13:30] <DraX> whatever happened to Xeon3d?[05:27:21] *** Disreali has quit IRC[05:27:31] <helf|laptop> last time I saw him I think his nick was Xeon4D :p[05:27:46] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[05:28:05] <jmayfield__> meh[05:30:19] *** panopticon has quit IRC[05:31:45] <l_n> hrm.. Pe has no lisp highlighting/indenting[05:33:11] *** Phoenix_ has quit IRC[05:33:20] <jmayfield__> lisp doesnt highlight itself?[05:33:28] <jmayfield__> pssh.. lame[05:34:04] <Skipp_OSX> well any _real_ Lisp programmer would write a lisp highlighter/indenter in Lisp[05:34:59] <jmayfield__> i've been messing with stackless python lately.. slick stuff[05:35:28] <l_n> well, i'm trying to finish learning lisp by restarting PCL.. it seems life always interferes with me finishing *anything* to do with programming/computers[05:36:00] <DraX> stackless is pretty neat[05:36:20] <l_n> didn't uuu use stackless python as the basis for the entire os?[05:36:38] <jmayfield__> at one point years ago, iirc[05:36:48] <jmayfield__> uuu was interesting in concept[05:36:58] <DraX> so was tunes[05:37:25] <l_n> it's original goals was to be an ultra-quick x86 os written completely in assembly.[05:38:07] <l_n> then the project head did a complete 180 and decided to use a high level scripting language like python with the compiler that was still slightly experimental at the time[05:38:40] <jmayfield__> pypy is another perpetually intriguing project[05:39:17] <DraX> yeah, though recently pypy seems to have made some strides towards being maybe useful someday soon[05:39:25] <jmayfield__> heh[05:45:18] <l_n> erm.. doesn't CL already provide clear separation between language specs and implementations?[05:45:26] * l_n was reading the pypy mission statement.[05:53:47] *** AlexFera has joined #haiku[05:59:17] *** Qeos has joined #haiku[06:01:14] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[06:05:27] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[06:08:42] *** Disreali has quit IRC[06:09:10] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[06:12:19] * DraX hits virtualbox[06:13:22] <mmadia> any thoughts on booting a usb stick for a day or so?[06:13:34] <DraX> ?[06:13:53] <mmadia> to see if it is virtualbox or haiku.[06:14:08] <DraX> it's virtualbox[06:14:11] <DraX> i tried alpha1[06:14:17] <DraX> which worked with older virtualbox just fine[06:14:36] <DraX> doing the same thing[06:15:50] <DraX> i just need to fix some of the issues with my old thinkpad[06:15:57] <DraX> so i can use it fulltime for haiku[06:16:25] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[06:18:30] <DraX> new keyboard and fix the fan[06:18:49] * OmniMancer is sad that he has no wireless :([06:19:23] * mmadia donates some spare wires to OmniMancer.[06:19:34] <OmniMancer> um[06:19:36] <mmadia> now you're not wire-less ;)[06:19:54] <OmniMancer> if I was complaining about having no wireless you should be confiscating my spare wires to make me wireless[06:24:36] * l_n tries to ignore the stuff not making sense on irc and focus on his book.[06:27:08] <DraX> just ordered a new keyboard for old thinkpad[06:28:25] <OmniMancer> yay[06:28:30] <OmniMancer> now make wpa work[06:28:41] <l_n> you make it sound so easy to do...[06:29:28] <DraX> i think it's actually pretty easy to do[06:30:08] * OmniMancer giggles disturbingly at DraX[06:30:19] <OmniMancer> also poke the person who must make it work[06:31:52] *** AlexFera has quit IRC[06:36:25] *** LinuxKeitaro has quit IRC[06:41:35] *** fhein has joined #haiku[06:42:44] <DraX> like i've said, wpa_supplicant compiles, but needs an actual driver to interface with haiku; right now the wifi drivers are basically shoehorned onto the ethernet stack and to be able to write a driver you need some way to get notifications to it[06:42:55] <DraX> so right now you'd need to add all those notifications to the ethernet stack which would be weird[06:44:32] <DraX> brb[06:44:47] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[06:46:26] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[06:49:07] <DraX> back[06:50:37] *** l_n has quit IRC[06:52:41] <OmniMancer> okay so the guy is writing the proper wifi stack now?[06:54:52] <DraX> he's also writing his thesis[06:54:55] <DraX> but colin is working on it[07:02:42] *** LinuxKeitaro has joined #haiku[07:04:26] *** lancer has joined #haiku[07:04:45] *** l_n has joined #haiku[07:05:05] *** DBAlex has quit IRC[07:06:03] <lancer> Hi[07:06:27] <lancer> I am building from source and keep getting this error, which is a real bummer because I would like my own install cd:[07:06:28] <lancer> skipped haiku-alpha.iso for lack of <HaikuImage>haiku.image-copy-files...[07:11:25] *** Nozy has quit IRC[07:11:39] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[07:12:24] <lancer> any thoughts?[07:13:09] <largo> lancer: sorry, I can't help. :/[07:14:14] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[07:14:25] <OmniMancer> perhaps you are not building the right target or somehting? talk to mmadia[07:14:57] <lancer> I am building the @alpha-cd target with jam[07:18:00] *** linkslice has joined #haiku[07:18:17] <linkslice> omg are irc clients for haiku impossible to find? bebits is all bad links[07:18:28] <linkslice> what are the good ones these days?[07:19:17] <DraX> vision seems to be the one everyone is using[07:20:08] <OmniMancer> vision also has the advantage of being in the default distro[07:20:33] <linkslice> lol i see that now[07:20:46] <linkslice> i didn't know what vision was .... whoops[07:20:48] <linkslice> :-p[07:21:08] <linkslice> just getting back into be/haiku since alpha 1 is out[07:21:22] <linkslice> anyone using it on mac virtualbox? and if so you got sound?[07:24:16] <linkslice> brb switching to vision[07:24:18] *** linkslice has quit IRC[07:28:05] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[07:29:23] *** linkslice has joined #haiku[07:29:29] <linkslice> there we go[07:30:23] <OmniMancer> linkslice: 1 you have to turn the sound card on in VBox[07:30:39] <OmniMancer> 2 for some reason its sound card emulation gets choppy sound[07:30:46] <OmniMancer> but it works fine on real hardware...[07:31:34] <CIA-50> scottmc * r35798 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/OptionalPackages: updated sqlite to 3.6.22[07:31:58] <linkslice> hey as long as it play virtual (void) I'm good ;-)[07:32:58] <linkslice> i can't beleive this *isn't* be[07:33:03] <linkslice> I can't tell the difference[07:33:29] *** PathagenX has joined #haiku[07:34:25] <linkslice> I'm having flashbacks to 1997 and the night I installed beos r2[07:34:45] <OmniMancer> it has some differences im told[07:35:03] <OmniMancer> for example it has wireless starting, there are gradients on the window tabs[07:35:21] <linkslice> yah the gradient is nice[07:36:46] <OmniMancer> it is also more posix compatible so porting certain things is easier[07:37:13] <linkslice> things are still owned by baron it appears?[07:39:29] <OmniMancer> and you are baron too :P[07:40:23] <linkslice> well, then I had to reboot a hundred times[07:42:46] <OmniMancer> ??[07:43:05] *** LinuxKeitaro has quit IRC[07:43:08] *** triplez has quit IRC[07:43:10] <linkslice> don't remember that one eh?[07:43:36] <prOSy> that virtaul void lyrics... ;-)[07:44:05] <linkslice> :-D[07:44:43] <OmniMancer> error function definition with no parameter list[07:45:05] <OmniMancer> or more member function definition with no parameter list[07:45:23] * prOSy is idle: BRB[07:46:10] <linkslice> OmniMancer: http://classic.catrec.com/vv.mp3 <--Baron's song that came bundled with R5[07:47:11] *** sprma has joined #haiku[07:47:54] <OmniMancer> however virtual void lyrics(); is a correct declaration :P[07:48:41] <OmniMancer> I'm guessing that that song was made in BeOS?[07:49:00] <OmniMancer> corporate crimes?[07:49:07] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[07:50:38] <OmniMancer> someone should update and remake the song for distribution with haiku :P[07:51:00] <linkslice> hehe, it would be nice, but impossible as baron is at microsoft (sorta)[07:51:12] <linkslice> I guess someone could legally make a "cover" of it[07:51:38] <linkslice> and yeah it was recored at be and I think on a be station[07:51:48] <OmniMancer> is baron his name?[07:51:51] <linkslice> yes[07:52:02] <OmniMancer> interesting[07:52:18] <saivert> baron von baron[07:52:20] <linkslice> baron arnold[07:52:32] <OmniMancer> anyway what I mean is cover the song with updated lyrics for haiku[07:52:38] <linkslice> hehe[07:52:44] <jmayfield__> von would have been a sweet middle name for him[07:52:58] <linkslice> if I had talent I'd do it, but I don't[07:53:14] * OmniMancer gives linkslice some talent![07:53:29] <jmayfield__> my daughters middle name is Vonne, but thats a tribute to kurt vonnegut jr.. heh[07:54:34] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[07:56:25] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[07:56:35] <linkslice> does this genestation ide I'm reading about actually exist somewhere? I cannot seem to find it[07:58:32] *** CK|iPod has joined #haiku[08:01:42] <OmniMancer> why do you want an IDE?:[08:01:48] <jmayfield__> vim![08:01:49] <jmayfield__> heh[08:01:54] <OmniMancer> Pe :D[08:02:01] <OmniMancer> emacs if it were ported :P[08:02:06] <OmniMancer> Paladin[08:02:08] <jmayfield__> pida![08:02:08] <OmniMancer> nano![08:02:13] <OmniMancer> pico![08:02:25] <DraX> i've been trying to work on emacs again, but virtualbox sucks[08:02:28] <OmniMancer> yocto[08:02:37] <DraX> half the commands in the configure script segfault[08:02:53] <OmniMancer> DraX: seriously it would be better to reimplement emacs as a lisp compatible one[08:03:16] <OmniMancer> I mean reimplement it cleaner but let the lisp have atleast a compatability layer[08:03:17] <DraX> reimplementing emacs is basically impossible[08:03:42] <linkslice> it would be better to alias 'emacs' to 'vim'[08:03:51] <OmniMancer> yea so you should instead have GNU reinplement it so that the current version ceases to exist and everything still in use is ported[08:04:00] <OmniMancer> unfortunately I like editors that let me edit[08:04:06] <MrSunshine> ick me in the head and call me some stupid name![08:04:18] <OmniMancer> why?[08:04:20] <DraX> MrSunshine: can you put your c bindings somewhere? like a git repo?[08:04:49] <MrSunshine> DraX, http://code.google.com/p/habid/[08:04:55] <DraX> awesome[08:04:57] <MrSunshine> but int he course of rewriting the little bit i have atm =)[08:05:09] <MrSunshine> testing some stuff out[08:05:54] <linkslice> and I like ide's :-D[08:07:01] *** LinuxKeitaro has joined #haiku[08:07:20] <MrSunshine> jmayfield__, hmm what does your daughter say about being a tribute to someone she didnt choose herself? :)[08:09:35] <jmayfield__> does anybody choose their name and its implications?[08:09:48] <MrSunshine> true =)[08:10:04] <jmayfield__> and besides.. vonnegut.. doesnt get much cooler than that[08:10:15] <MrSunshine> but when you say her name is a tribute to someone it sounds like she is going to be offered to satan or something :P[08:13:05] *** LinuxKeitaro has quit IRC[08:13:59] <saivert> <DraX> reimplementing emacs is basically impossible <-- better chance at reimplementing the universe (a universe that doesn't contain emacs that is)[08:14:27] <DraX> that'd be an unbareable universe[08:14:35] <jmayfield__> vim![08:14:38] <jmayfield__> heh[08:14:51] <saivert> well admit that emacs is a beast[08:14:52] <jmayfield__> vim/emacs is my fav stupid flameware[08:15:10] <saivert> why do you think they have so many jokes about it[08:15:32] <MrSunshine> i wouldnt touch emacs with a stick[08:19:25] *** helf has quit IRC[08:20:18] <linkslice> linux bsd is a good one too[08:20:41] *** e-jones has joined #haiku[08:21:53] <linkslice> is there a way to get custom resolutions set?[08:22:11] <linkslice> I've got a widescreen and so I have the black bars down the sides[08:23:12] *** noldsel has joined #haiku[08:23:22] <OmniMancer> in virtual box you will only have 4:3 vesa resolutions[08:23:37] *** HaikUbuntu has joined #haiku[08:28:59] <linkslice> guess I'll jsut need to get a netbook :-)[08:30:08] <linkslice> wth, facebook no werky?[08:31:07] <lancer> i forgot to install unzip before I did jam -q @alpha-cd. Now I am having some problems getting the build to unzip and install the zips on subsequent attempts. what can I do?[08:32:05] *** The123king has joined #haiku[08:32:57] *** CK|iPod_ has joined #haiku[08:32:57] *** CK|iPod has quit IRC[08:32:59] *** CK|iPod_ is now known as CK|iPod[08:35:02] *** helf has joined #haiku[08:36:44] <lancer> OK lets say I just want to extract the ssl zip manually to which directory should I extract to?[08:40:17] *** LinuxKeitaro has joined #haiku[08:41:57] <linkslice> anybbody here tried webpositive yet?[08:44:00] *** CK|iPod has quit IRC[08:44:14] <OmniMancer> linkslice: the browser situation is being corrected[08:44:17] <OmniMancer> also flash must die[08:44:26] <OmniMancer> lancer: do you have expander?[08:44:49] <lancer> I have unzip on Debian[08:44:53] *** H_MrSun has joined #haiku[08:47:06] <OmniMancer> oh you aren't on haiku :P[08:47:23] <OmniMancer> or are you?[08:47:33] <lancer> no I am using debian to make a build[08:47:37] <OmniMancer> if on haiku look for the application expander[08:47:51] <OmniMancer> then why are you running into this problem?[08:48:00] <lancer> i really dont know[08:48:14] <lancer> I forgot to install unzip and it threw off my build[08:48:24] <OmniMancer> so redo build![08:48:53] <lancer> yeah that might seem like the obvious solution but any time saving manner of redoing the build is not apparent. I think I got it though.[08:49:33] <OmniMancer> rather do a rebuild anyway[08:49:57] <linkslice> nn all[08:50:17] *** linkslice has quit IRC[08:50:35] *** LinuxKeitaro has quit IRC[08:56:15] *** Advant has quit IRC[08:58:13] <H_MrSun> ough this is getting damn hairy to do by hand :P[08:58:18] <H_MrSun> but hope it works =)[08:58:31] <H_MrSun> only problem is how i tell if a function has been overridden in D or not[09:01:09] <lancer> Thanks for the tips OmniMancer, my build completed successfully.[09:01:15] *** e-jones has quit IRC[09:01:32] *** Advant has joined #haiku[09:01:32] <OmniMancer> lancer: I have never built haiku myself :P[09:03:25] <lancer> OmniMancer: It's not too difficult.[09:03:46] *** surround1r is now known as surrounder[09:03:52] *** lancer has quit IRC[09:06:45] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[09:07:21] *** HeTo_ is now known as HeTo[09:07:31] *** HaikUbuntu has quit IRC[09:08:10] *** e-jones has joined #haiku[09:21:03] *** drcouzelis has quit IRC[09:24:05] *** 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is realy hairy[09:43:18] <H_MrSun> now i ened to figure out how to tell if a D class has inherited and overloaded a function or not to be able to determine if i should call the D Class function or the C Class Function :P[09:44:09] <H_MrSun> now it calls back and forth in a whirlwind, be it HaikuAPI internal that calls or me that calls everything ends up in the "right" place inside D =)[09:44:12] <OmniMancer> does D have the equivalent of virtual methods?[09:44:37] <H_MrSun> but if i havent overloaded the function in D it should not call the D function as that would make it circular, so it has to call the C function directly =)[09:44:46] <OmniMancer> also I still say that you should just unconditionally call to D[09:44:54] <H_MrSun> OmniMancer, well all class methods except the ones marked "final" is virtual i guess =)[09:45:10] <OmniMancer> so it does dynamic dispatch on everything?[09:45:19] <OmniMancer> that isn't very performance friendly[09:45:29] <H_MrSun> OmniMancer, no not when it comes to virtual functions etc, as if it calls to D it will go "c_func() -> d_func() -> c_func() -> d_func()" if its not overloaded[09:45:49] <H_MrSun> OmniMancer, its got performance almost like c++ so its not to chabby =)[09:46:10] <OmniMancer> but C++ avoids a couple of indirections for most classes :P[09:46:50] <OmniMancer> also C++ is what haiku is written in, and C++ doesn't have issues like this one :P[09:46:59] <OmniMancer> also why will it become circular?[09:47:41] <H_MrSun> because if i implicitly call the D class function, that function will call the C function, that will call the D function etc :P[09:48:14] <H_MrSun> BUT if its overloaded in D the C function HAS to call the D function for it to become right when inheriting inside D and extending HaikuAPI from there =)[09:48:30] <H_MrSun> if i just wanted the static version of HaikuAPI in D sure be it, just call and be happy with it =)[09:48:37] <H_MrSun> but i want to make it extendable inside D[09:49:09] <H_MrSun> and that means that when HaikuAPI calls a function internaly, if that function is overloaded ina class in D it has to call that function in D, if its not it has to call its own internal function =)[09:49:19] <H_MrSun> im having a hard time wrapping my head around this myself :P[09:50:30] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[09:50:38] <H_MrSun> so so far ive got it to implicitly call into D from the internal C++ calls, now i have to figure out a way to weed out if the function has been overloaded or not inside D[09:50:42] <H_MrSun> and then it should work like a charm :)[09:51:02] <H_MrSun> yeah i know im to smart for my own good ;P[09:51:37] *** __goo__ has quit IRC[09:58:03] <OmniMancer> how about you just make the default D method call the internal one and the inherited one will then not[09:58:43] <H_MrSun> OmniMancer, when i inherit in D i override the default method == not calling the C++ function for that function[09:59:50] <H_MrSun> thats good and all, BUT say i overload Draw inside D, then i call BWindow::Update() that calls c_BWindow_Update() that calls BWindow::Update() that does foreach(BView, view) view.Draw(); the view.Draw function will NOT call into D so it will keep calling into an empty BView::Draw function inside C++[10:00:25] <OmniMancer> yes exactly[10:00:29] <H_MrSun> so if ive overloaded Draw in D, even BWindow if it calls Draw on a BView instance has to call into D asking if its overloaded, if its overloaded, call the D function, else call the C++ function[10:01:32] <OmniMancer> you should make a class for View that has a c_BView_Draw() function that is called[10:01:50] <OmniMancer> then have that call D regardless[10:02:04] <H_MrSun> OmniMancer, but lets say for BButton[10:02:07] <OmniMancer> and then have a D class whose default method is to call the C++ function[10:02:23] <OmniMancer> you are just making the same argument over and over again it seems[10:02:28] <H_MrSun> you dont get it i think, this is a problem that many has pundered =)[10:02:31] <OmniMancer> go think about it carefully in a corner or something[10:02:39] <H_MrSun> ive done that :P[10:02:45] <OmniMancer> then think more[10:02:51] <H_MrSun> you can go think more! =)[10:03:00] <OmniMancer> and find a solution that doesn't have you needing to know if it is inherited[10:03:02] <H_MrSun> ill show you you little[10:03:17] <OmniMancer> or else give up on D since it's a useless language if you can't do this in it[10:03:57] <H_MrSun> OmniMancer, like i said if im just going to bind HaikuAPI to D, its a done deal ... can do that quite fast and easy, but if i want it extendable in D they both need to be aware of eachother and take eachother into account[10:04:18] <H_MrSun> doesnt matter what language you do this in, you will have to make them respect eachother and eachothers descisions =)[10:04:21] <OmniMancer> sigh[10:04:23] <H_MrSun> haha :)[10:04:31] <OmniMancer> then their external interface is insufficient[10:04:31] *** __goo__ has joined #haiku[10:04:45] *** Vooshy 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jan__64 has joined #haiku[11:57:31] <jan__64> hi[11:57:40] <Vooshy> hello[11:58:24] <jan__64> grub2 cannot load my haiku partitions ("error: no such partition"), any ideas how to fix that?[11:58:35] <jan__64> or do I have to go back to grub legacy?[11:58:54] <Auronandace> i'm using grub2 to load haiku fine[11:59:18] <Auronandace> grub legacy offsets partitions by 1[11:59:23] <Auronandace> grub2 doesn't[11:59:37] <Auronandace> so sda6 will be hd0,6[11:59:51] <Auronandace> in grub2[12:02:19] <Vooshy> if you have your grub config stick it in pastebin and i will have a look[12:08:18] *** fhein has quit IRC[12:18:55] <jan__64> sorry, I was afk[12:19:14] <jan__64> I know the offset change[12:19:39] <Auronandace> are you chainloading haiku?[12:19:51] * largo is booting from grub2 fine as well.[12:20:29] <jan__64> http://pastebin.com/m7n3Z5ft[12:20:35] <jan__64> yes[12:20:48] <largo> http://haiku.pastebin.com/LW1ceq70[12:21:28] <largo> they look right to me.[12:21:32] <largo> :([12:22:36] <Auronandace> i can't see anything wrong either[12:22:38] <jan__64> grub legacy booted only with rootnoverify, but this option was dropped in grub2[12:23:00] <jan__64> maybe a bios problem[12:25:05] <Auronandace> i usually paste it into 40_custum[12:25:30] *** Ola has joined #haiku[12:25:58] *** Ola is now known as Guest45566[12:26:03] *** wildur has joined #haiku[12:26:12] <Auronandace> /etc/grub.d/40_custom[12:26:33] <Auronandace> thats where i put any os's not detected by the prober[12:27:03] *** Guest45566 is now known as OlaHughson[12:28:41] <largo> http://haiku.pastebin.com/xdYCGcXv[12:28:42] <largo> like that.[12:28:54] *** fly-away has joined #haiku[12:29:43] <largo> I should pastebin my -actual- 40_custom file... the one that matches the grub.cfg I have up.[12:30:25] <Vooshy> someone mentioned something about it not finding the EOF properly other day but cant find what was said now[12:32:24] *** Sheppard has joined #haiku[12:32:30] <Sheppard> hi @ all[12:32:34] <jan__64> thx, I will try some stuff and in worst case go back to grub legacy[12:34:50] <Sheppard> Hey guys , can i ask you a question about HAIKU ?[12:35:04] <Auronandace> sure[12:35:52] <Sheppard> On wich PC it works , i mean wich class of PC high or low end something like 1 GHz or more ?[12:36:20] <Auronandace> i use it on my laptop t60[12:36:31] <Auronandace> it works on my t40 too[12:37:07] <Vooshy> Sheppard: i586 and above[12:37:36] <Sheppard> ah ok , so it gonna works on my 4800+AMD X2 ??[12:37:59] <cizra> Most probably yes (=[12:38:05] <Vooshy> should do[12:38:39] <Auronandace> i saw a pic ofit working on an 8-core on the wibsite[12:38:44] <Auronandace> website[12:38:52] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[12:38:57] <Sheppard> ah nice one , thanks for info does it , have problems with SATA ?? because i have only sata in there[12:39:22] <Auronandace> my t60 uses sata drive, works fine[12:40:27] <Sheppard> wow great i loved it now , i used BEOS 5 a long time ago on my 400mhz AMD =)) a long long time before then i only used windows sometimes i had dualboot with linux thats why i ask[12:41:24] <Auronandace> i've never used beos, but i love haiku[12:41:29] *** mpanasyuk has joined #haiku[12:43:20] <Sheppard> hehe , i had tested all windows version i think xp and 2000 Pro was the best ever , but i wanna switch to an OS that is not so AEROlike or something stupid like vista or so , i loved fast system for my works , i only used windows for gaming =) , how it works on gaming = )??[12:43:49] <Vooshy> Sheppard: grab a nightly image from www.haiku-files.org all the beos memories will come back[12:44:06] <Vooshy> not so good for gaming, at the moment[12:44:35] <Auronandace> i keep windows for gaming[12:44:42] <Sheppard> does it works with dualboot ?[12:44:57] <Auronandace> can't wait till reactos is a viable replacement[12:45:12] <Auronandace> yeah, i dualboot[12:45:39] <Auronandace> using grub2 with xubuntu[12:45:49] <Sheppard> ah ok thats fine , so i has an partitonprogram inside ?[12:46:23] <Auronandace> yes but it can only initialise already created partitions[12:46:27] *** mpanasyuk has quit IRC[12:46:32] <Vooshy> DriveSetup[12:46:50] <Sheppard> ah , can it read ntfs ?? or i had to go to fat 32 ?[12:47:03] <Vooshy> read only ntfs access[12:47:10] <Auronandace> it reads ntfs, fat32 and ext2[12:47:24] <Sheppard> wow ![12:47:40] <Auronandace> i think it also picks up ext3 as ext2,, not sure though?[12:48:21] <Sheppard> does the irc works on it =)) ?? for later i asked[12:48:39] <Vooshy> yep a program called Vision[12:48:40] <Auronandace> yeah, the client is called vision[12:49:11] <Sheppard> ah fine , i love it ....ah old times cames back =)[12:49:27] <Vooshy> ok im off now, enjoy haiku Sheppard[12:49:30] *** Vooshy has quit IRC[12:49:36] <Sheppard> thanks ^[12:51:51] <OmniMancer> ext3 is backward compatible[12:52:07] <Sheppard> hmm...wich HAIKU Iso i may download ?? the latest haiku-nightly-r35797-x86gcc2hybrid.cd.zip ??? or an other one ?[12:52:11] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[12:52:29] *** lorglas has quit IRC[12:52:39] <OmniMancer> what do you want to do with it Sheppard?[12:53:05] <l_n> Sheppard: gcc2 or gcc2hybrid are the preferred for compatibility with old apps[12:53:17] <Sheppard> installing it , testing it , using it =)[12:53:46] <OmniMancer> installing it where by what means[12:54:27] *** drcouzelis has quit IRC[12:54:33] <Sheppard> dualboot , with windows xp pro on my PC so for working and hear music an somehting like it[12:55:43] <Auronandace> you'll need to make a partition first to install it to[12:56:18] <Auronandace> partedmagic livecd is good for that[12:56:21] <Sheppard> how big it can bee ??? i mean the partition , 40gb or more ?[12:56:43] <Auronandace> mine is only 10gb[12:56:47] <l_n> Sheppard: gcc2hybrid wird geht. das CD ist 450MB.[12:57:10] <Auronandace> but i keep all my files on another partition which i mount as readonly[12:57:29] <Sheppard> ah ok thanks[12:57:32] <l_n> (mein deutsch ist nicht sehr gut, aber ich versuche.)[12:58:03] <Zet> is there a recent version of vlc that runs on haiku?[12:58:07] <Sheppard> hehe your german is great better than other people in my country =)[12:58:12] <Zet> there's a version from 2007 on bebits[12:58:48] <l_n> Zet: there were rumours of someone getting a recent version to compile, but i can't remember where i saw that.[12:59:00] <Auronandace> i think on haikuware they got an article on vlc 1 working[12:59:29] <Auronandace> but i use 0.8.6d[12:59:47] <Auronandace> in the optionalpackages on haiku-files[13:00:36] <Sheppard> ok guys thanks for help now , i get back soon , i try too install now haiku ^ by cu in time[13:00:43] *** Sheppard has quit IRC[13:00:50] <Auronandace> to install the file, just unzip it to the /boot/apps/ directory[13:01:58] *** l_n has quit IRC[13:01:58] *** l_n has joined #haiku[13:10:04] *** Auronandace has left #haiku[13:16:23] *** wildur has quit IRC[13:17:36] *** ZeroXp has joined #haiku[13:17:50] <ZeroXp> hola,,[13:17:55] <ZeroXp> speak spanish[13:18:06] <ZeroXp> ..__[13:18:10] <ZeroXp> _??[13:19:49] <mmadia> talvez #haiku-es ?[13:20:11] <ZeroXp> no user[13:20:36] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[13:20:43] *** AlexFera has joined #haiku[13:21:10] <ZeroXp> my problem is two line in desktop[13:21:42] <ZeroXp> backgroun[13:21:46] *** Auronandace has joined #haiku[13:24:01] *** Ryo_Murakawa has quit IRC[13:24:52] *** martinhpedersen has quit IRC[13:24:57] *** AlexFera has quit IRC[13:25:07] *** martinhpedersen has joined #haiku[13:28:01] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[13:32:02] <ZeroXp> hello[13:32:27] <ZeroXp> i need help[13:32:44] <Auronandace> what with?[13:32:47] *** martinhpedersen has quit IRC[13:34:08] <ZeroXp> i need install browser[13:34:31] <Auronandace> are you running haiku nightly or alpha?[13:34:32] <ZeroXp> haiku no browser default[13:34:38] <ZeroXp> nightly[13:34:56] <mmadia> installoptionalpackage -l[13:35:10] <Auronandace> you can wget bezilla from haiku-files too[13:35:42] <mmadia> Auronandace : installoptionalpackage is the preferred method. ... it'll ensure they get the verision intended for their version of Haiku.[13:36:00] <mmadia> it'll also create symlinks and a few other goodies too.[13:36:15] <ZeroXp> ok installopcionaP is perfect[13:36:18] <Auronandace> oh, i must have used the longwinded method[13:36:18] <ZeroXp> tank[13:36:27] <ZeroXp> how._[13:37:50] <Auronandace> i don't suppose there's a gui to installoptionalpackage?[13:38:01] <ZeroXp> terminal[13:38:47] <Auronandace> i might try that when i got time[13:39:02] <Auronandace> it's amazing how little i really know[13:39:14] *** PathagenX has quit IRC[13:39:22] <mmadia> no one knows everything, Auronandace ;)[13:41:10] <ZeroXp> i download Firefox[13:41:29] <largo> installoptionalpackage -a BeZillaBrowser[13:41:34] <largo> that is FireFox.[13:41:36] <ZeroXp> yes[13:41:41] <largo> ok :)[13:41:51] <ZeroXp> is good[13:41:58] *** martinhpedersen has joined #haiku[13:43:53] *** 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VMware, thanks.[14:49:14] *** ZeroXp has quit IRC[14:51:49] *** panopticon has joined #haiku[14:52:55] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[14:54:15] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[14:56:51] *** Barrett_ has joined #haiku[15:01:49] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[15:05:51] *** michaellarabel has joined #haiku[15:17:53] *** laruen has joined #haiku[15:19:10] *** __goo__ has quit IRC[15:19:39] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[15:19:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[15:20:37] *** __goo__ has joined #haiku[15:21:30] <__goo__> Hi,an svn checkout of the haiku trunk was aborted due to lack of space on the disk. If is checkout again would it again download the entire source or start from where it left off?[15:22:15] <mmlr_work> you can go into that directory and do an svn update instead[15:22:22] <mmlr_work> it'll continue from where it left off then[15:22:40] <__goo__> ok, thanx[15:23:13] *** bozarking has quit IRC[15:23:21] *** laruen has left #haiku[15:24:55] <__goo__> mmlr_work, it shows the following message[15:24:55] <__goo__> svn: Working copy '.' locked[15:24:56] <__goo__> svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)[15:25:11] <__goo__> should i run a cleanup?[15:25:20] <mmlr_work> yup[15:25:29] *** bozarking has joined #haiku[15:25:40] <bozarking> HeTo: So, I did that[15:25:45] <__goo__> What is a cleanup?[15:25:54] <mmadia> `svn cleanup`[15:26:11] <bozarking> HeTo: but for some reason, it fails to boot upto the desktop, it's stuck on the bootsplash[15:26:31] <__goo__> mmadia, yes[15:26:54] <__goo__> svn: In directory 'src/bin'[15:26:54] <__goo__> svn: Error processing command 'modify-wcprop' in 'src/bin'[15:26:54] <__goo__> svn: 'src/bin/printf.c' is not under version control[15:28:03] <__goo__> mmlr_work , Those were the error messages after running a cleanup[15:28:27] <mmlr_work> yeah that subdir got corrupted it seems[15:28:39] <mmlr_work> rm -r src/bin and then svn update again[15:31:58] *** oZ] has joined #haiku[15:34:14] *** sprma has quit IRC[15:37:01] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[15:38:52] <__goo__> mmlr_work doesnt work. Looks like lot of subdirs are corrupted[15:39:48] <mmlr_work> what system are you using as a base?[15:39:57] <__goo__> Ubuntu 9.04[15:40:25] <mmlr_work> um, ok, then it's not a BFS or Haiku kernel problem at least ;-)[15:40:33] <__goo__> :)[15:40:53] <mmlr_work> you can either go through all the subdirs that got corrupted and remove them or start over[15:41:01] <mmlr_work> hard to tell which is quicker[15:41:42] <__goo__> Yea, the problem is that everytime i remove one, another subdir pops up[15:42:08] <__goo__> Anyway, ill think ill checkout and leave it overnite[15:45:55] *** J-Ho has left #haiku[15:46:07] *** __goo__ has quit IRC[15:46:09] *** oZ] has quit IRC[15:46:48] *** bozarking has quit IRC[15:50:56] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[15:54:47] *** Koki_ has joined #haiku[15:55:51] <Koki_> good morning[15:57:25] *** johnnyg has joined #haiku[15:57:53] *** johnnyg is now known as Guest54149[15:58:14] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[15:58:22] <Guest54149> hello! is it possible to dd a nightly onto my second partition where alpha1 is currently installed (i have also bootman installed) ?[15:58:56] *** oZ] has joined #haiku[15:59:55] *** Kroki has joined #haiku[16:01:00] *** BGA has joined #haiku[16:01:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[16:01:01] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[16:01:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[16:04:13] <Guest54149> does no one know or no one is reading this?[16:04:36] <mmadia> Guest54149 : From within alpha1, you can mount the raw image and use Installer to install it ot the 2nd partition.[16:05:35] <Guest54149> thanks, but i have a windows 7 / haiku dual boot setup, i want to dd the nightly from within win7 as i dont have a cd drive[16:05:48] <mmadia> mounting the raw image file is a snap. either double click it until a new volume icon displays on the desktop, or run "open <filename of image file>" in Terminal,[16:06:12] <mmadia> sorry, i read that as Alpha1 being on the 1st partition.[16:06:30] <Guest54149> no sorry[16:07:30] <mmadia> if you did dd the nightly to a partition, then the size of the partition would become the size of the nightly image ~450M[16:08:03] <Guest54149> i see, so that idea will not work? - any suggestions? i need help ;)[16:08:31] <mmadia> do you have a usb stick?[16:08:45] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[16:09:21] <Guest54149> i have a 20gb external usb drive, and i once alreday tried to dd a nightly onto it, but my eeepc would'nt even recognize it as bootable[16:10:05] <mmadia> how did you install alpha1?[16:10:52] <Guest54149> someone gave me an external cd drive, but i don't have it currently[16:11:26] *** martinhpedersen_ has joined #haiku[16:12:06] *** wildur has joined #haiku[16:13:19] <Guest54149> ok i guess i have no choice but to wait that i can use the cd drive again - i just thought i had a good idea ;)[16:14:15] <mmadia> yeah, that's not an easy situation.[16:14:31] <Guest54149> ok thanks anyway :)[16:14:39] *** Guest54149 has left #haiku[16:14:52] <mmadia> maybe you can boot into 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This way it is always up to date[19:35:45] <CIA-50> and we don't need to fix it in mmu_init_for_kernel().[19:42:06] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[19:43:22] <helf|laptop> http://gammasquad.uproxx.com/2010/03/jetpack-for-sale[19:43:41] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[19:46:34] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[19:46:49] *** Disreali has quit IRC[19:49:20] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[19:50:30] *** Disreali2 has joined #haiku[19:52:43] *** mmlr_mc has joined #haiku[19:52:44] *** rohit123 has joined #haiku[19:52:44] <Disreali2> why can't the Development optional packages be installed on the nightys?[19:53:37] <mmlr_mc> because it pulls in quite a bit of stuff[19:54:29] <mmadia> and the nightlies contain Development.[19:55:18] <Disreali2> oh well that is helpfull[19:55:22] <kitallis> it'd be okay, if the installoptionalpackage wasn't messed up[19:55:35] <Disreali2> indeed[19:55:46] <Auronandace> there are 2 packages i always end up adding to the nightlies, vlc and bezilla[19:55:59] <mmadia> technically, it's because some packages required compiled objects from the source tree.[19:56:21] *** hdanak has quit IRC[19:56:30] *** knottnhupfer has quit IRC[19:57:59] <mmadia> eventually i'd like to change installoptionalpackage, such that the non-implemented rules, like AddDriversToHaikuImage, AddFilesToHaikuImage, AddHeaderDirectoryToHaikuImage, ..., are specified and then any package that uses those are ignored.[19:58:38] <Disreali2> are openssl and openssh missing from the nightlies?[19:58:45] <kitallis> yes[19:59:05] <Disreali2> I thought the system required those[19:59:49] <kitallis> openssh?[19:59:51] <kitallis> why?[19:59:53] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[20:01:04] *** judgen has joined #haiku[20:01:05] <Disreali2> that was my understanding, though other are more knowledgable about it[20:02:11] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[20:02:22] <kitallis> so, i'm almost halfway through the BeBook[20:02:27] <kitallis> sleep time.[20:02:29] *** kitallis has quit IRC[20:03:34] <mmadia> Disreali2 : openssl is included.[20:03:48] <Disreali2> shouldn't 'installoptionalpackage -a BezillaBrowser ' actually install the app, or am I readding the help msg wrong[20:03:59] *** Malmis has quit IRC[20:04:06] <Disreali2> thnx mmadia[20:04:21] <mmadia> yes, it should install it.[20:04:58] <mmadia> are you using an @nightly-* or an @alpha-*? otherwise you may be missing sed.[20:05:24] <Disreali2> nightly r35797[20:05:54] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[20:06:52] <Disreali2> hmm installing openssh also insalled openssl[20:07:06] *** mmadia has quit IRC[20:07:15] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[20:07:31] <Disreali2> wb mmadia[20:08:13] <mmadia> thanks.[20:08:22] *** ormandj has quit IRC[20:08:46] *** ormandj has joined #haiku[20:08:51] <Disreali2> i read about the sed issues on the ml. if the nightly is missing it, how can I install it when it is not listed a an optional pkg?[20:08:52] *** Malmis has joined #haiku[20:10:54] <Disreali2> hello?[20:11:38] *** The123king has joined #haiku[20:13:08] <mmadia> the nightly & alpha images have it.... when a custom image is built, the optional package BasicCommandLineTools needs to be added.[20:13:54] <mmadia> i may just go ahead and check in a commit that ensures all images & cds have it, but there's one part that im unsure about.[20:14:21] <Disreali2> then why can't I snstall most of the pkg's listed by installoptionalpackage?[20:15:47] <Disreali2> BasicCommandLineTools is last as being able to be installed. If the nightly already has it, why is it being listed?[20:16:03] <CIA-50> laplace * r35803 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/bootman/BootManagerController.cpp: Missed two translation comments in r35800.[20:16:38] <mmadia> can you pastebin the output of installoptionalpackage?[20:16:50] <Disreali2> I don't intend to be obtuse, I'm just not understanding how the cmd work[20:17:07] <CIA-50> laplace * r35804 /haiku/trunk/data/catalogs/apps/bootman/ (de.catkeys es.catkeys):[20:17:07] <CIA-50> Added help text to .catkeys files. Sorted files by second and first[20:17:07] <CIA-50> column.[20:17:22] <Disreali2> when it doesn't work thare is no output[20:17:45] <mmadia> basically, `installoptionalpackage -l` which will list them. and `installoptionalpackage -a "package1 package2 ...."`[20:18:12] *** prOSy has quit IRC[20:18:50] <Disreali2> I undersstand that, but all taht was successfully installed so far is openssh and openssl[20:19:19] <Disreali2> Bezilla won't install so I can't pastbin stuff atm[20:20:23] <mmadia> wget http://mmlr.dyndns.org/chrome/site/nightlies/WebPositive-r307.zip[20:20:56] <Disreali2> thanks trying mmadia. I'll attempt again later[20:21:06] <Disreali2> cool, thanks agin[20:21:20] <mmadia> well, that'll allow you to pastebin :)[20:21:47] <Disreali2> ;P[20:22:07] *** The123king has joined #haiku[20:22:18] *** Kroki has joined #haiku[20:23:38] *** sprma has quit IRC[20:23:51] *** jan__64 has quit IRC[20:28:47] <Disreali2> mmadia, the new pastebin did not like my post "Error Expactation Failed'. sorry, I try again later[20:28:57] * Disreali2 is idle: BRB[20:34:54] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[20:35:50] *** luroh has quit IRC[20:38:49] <PasNox> hi all[20:38:56] <PasNox> does chromium build on haiku ?[20:39:53] <oZ]> Unlikely. The webkit patches aren't completely in webkit's trunk, so that part wouldn't build, and there's no front end built for Haiku.[20:39:59] <mmadia> nope. at one point aljen was investigating a port, but not much came of it.[20:40:27] <mmadia> iirc, our current libroot was an issue too.[20:40:28] <PasNox> ok, thanks[20:41:58] *** fcr has quit IRC[20:43:14] *** rohit123 has quit IRC[20:44:47] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[20:45:34] *** luroh has joined #haiku[20:46:07] *** judgen has quit IRC[20:47:02] *** jan__64 has joined #haiku[20:50:55] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[20:51:26] <mmu_screen> maybe it depends on recent glibc ?[20:51:38] *** yourpalal has joined #haiku[20:57:17] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[20:58:57] *** Disreali2 has quit IRC[20:59:32] <helf|laptop> l_n, didnt you need a new ide laptop hdd? i just found a 40gb one while cleaning. I can run some tests on it to make sure its OK.[21:09:24] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[21:12:29] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[21:14:20] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:17:30] *** kirilla has quit IRC[21:17:35] *** luroh has quit IRC[21:18:53] *** luroh has joined #haiku[21:20:20] *** yourpalal has quit IRC[21:27:00] *** leszek has quit IRC[21:27:42] *** BGA has left #haiku[21:28:33] *** Kroki has quit IRC[21:35:22] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[21:40:38] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[21:41:05] *** lint1 has joined #haiku[21:41:33] *** cxvii has quit IRC[21:46:13] *** PasNox has quit IRC[21:46:27] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[21:48:59] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[21:50:47] *** Koki_ has left #haiku[21:52:19] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[21:58:42] *** The123king has quit IRC[22:10:54] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[22:14:22] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[22:14:40] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:15:11] *** margiolas has joined #haiku[22:17:36] *** Koki_ has joined #haiku[22:19:20] *** jan__64 has quit IRC[22:19:45] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[22:21:25] *** cherrypie has joined #haiku[22:22:56] *** McBersaas has joined #haiku[22:23:06] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[22:25:55] *** lint1 has left #haiku[22:26:03] *** PasNox has quit IRC[22:26:52] *** DBAlex has joined #haiku[22:27:21] <martinhpedersen> McBersaas:)[22:28:49] *** _McBersaas has joined #haiku[22:28:58] <McBersaas> martinhpedersen! :)[22:29:07] <McBersaas> oh well, there came the other me[22:29:19] <McBersaas> sec[22:29:20] *** McBersaas has quit IRC[22:29:27] *** _McBersaas is now known as McBersaas[22:30:07] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[22:30:15] <martinhpedersen> ;D[22:32:08] *** McBersas2 has joined #haiku[22:32:27] *** martinhpedersen_ has joined #haiku[22:33:50] *** PasNox has quit IRC[22:34:22] *** tqh has joined #haiku[22:34:50] *** McBersaas has quit IRC[22:35:00] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[22:35:19] *** martinhpedersen has quit IRC[22:43:26] <McBersas2> tralala...[22:44:40] <Koki_> hi martinhpedersen_[22:46:56] <McBersas2> hi[22:47:41] <martinhpedersen_> Hi Koki_! :)[22:49:04] *** wildur has quit IRC[22:52:02] <martinhpedersen_> Liked the new flier Koki_, I feel honoured that you put HaikuTwitter on it ;D[22:52:07] <petterhj> I somehow feel the presence of a norwegian.[22:52:49] <martinhpedersen_> That's right, petter! :)[22:53:23] *** extor has joined #haiku[22:53:27] <Koki_> martinhpedersen_: glad you noticed. hope it's good incentive for you to keep working on it ;)[22:53:35] <Koki_> hi petterhj[22:53:42] *** markos_ has quit IRC[22:54:15] <martinhpedersen_> Oh yeah, no doubt Koki :)[22:54:44] <petterhj> Koki_: hi ;)[22:55:09] <Koki_> ok, lunch time here. bbl[22:55:15] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[22:55:26] <martinhpedersen_> see u![22:56:16] <martinhpedersen_> petterhj: Assume you're from Norway too;) City?[22:56:56] <petterhj> yep.. currently living is Oslo, born and raised in (or at as we say) Hamar[22:57:12] <petterhj> in*[22:58:02] <martinhpedersen_> Ahh, ok;D I'm currently studying at Høyskolen i Bergen, but born and raised in Haugesund =)[22:59:06] <petterhj> just discovered Haiku?[22:59:54] *** oZ] has quit IRC[23:00:47] <martinhpedersen_> Hehe, yeah;p Around christmas I think, tested out BeOS when I was younger... so not that unfamiliar. Loving it so far:)[23:02:02] *** panopticon has joined #haiku[23:03:01] <petterhj> :)[23:03:19] <martinhpedersen_> How about you? Long time user?;)[23:05:46] *** AlexFera has quit IRC[23:10:32] <petterhj> I first tried BeOS 10 years ago, and have been following the development of Haiku since.. :)[23:10:37] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:13:37] <martinhpedersen_> Oh, nice :)[23:13:38] <petterhj> martinhpedersen_: how is your Haiku twitter client going?[23:14:09] <Ghostride> Yay, Norwegians :)[23:15:26] <petterhj> evening :)[23:15:39] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[23:15:59] <MrSunshine> DraX, hehe, well to put a name on it to keep track of them for one and qtc did that =)[23:16:17] <martinhpedersen_> Well, it's become stable enough to be my main twitter client now:) Just released binary on haikuware couple of days ago, so I'm making progress =)[23:16:58] <petterhj> nice.. guess I have to boot my MSI Wind and test it..[23:17:01] <Ghostride> Evening petterhj Long time, no see :)[23:17:44] <martinhpedersen_> You should, give it a spin and let me know what you think :)[23:18:38] <petterhj> Ghostride; hehe, been a while since last time.. you've just been lurking around? ;)[23:21:49] <CIA-50> kirilla * r35805 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/deskbar/ (BarApp.cpp BarApp.h BeMenu.cpp): Adding menu item Restart Tracker, to be shown when Tracker isn't running.[23:22:35] <Ghostride> petterhj: Yeah, mostly been lurking. But has started to use Haiku as the main OS on my netbook now, and finally got it to boot on the desktop a couple of days ago[23:24:03] <petterhj> I'm only running it on my netbook myself, but I should try to boot it on my desktop computer as well. would look nice on the big screen..[23:24:42] <kirilla> Haiku looks nice in full HD :)[23:24:55] <martinhpedersen_> I bet it does :)[23:25:25] <petterhj> I tried a long time ago on another laptop, but had some problems with my port replicator, but that shouldn't be a problem now..[23:25:54] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[23:26:18] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[23:28:00] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[23:28:12] <Koki_> petterhj: I keep tweaking the Haiku common menu > http://ja-test.haikuzone.net[23:28:38] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:29:18] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:31:58] *** VinDuv_ has joined #haiku[23:31:58] <petterhj> Koki_: looks good! that bar (at least the leaf menu to the left) could nicely be integrated to any page.[23:32:23] <kirilla> I can't reach http://www.haiku-os.org[23:33:30] <martinhpedersen_> kirilla: same here:o[23:33:51] <petterhj> kirilla: me neither. I could 5 minutes ago.[23:33:51] * kirilla <3 leaf[23:34:09] *** Barrett_ has joined #haiku[23:34:09] <kirilla> thanks, so I'm not the only one :)[23:34:37] <kirilla> misery <3 company :P[23:34:55] <petterhj> martinhpedersen_: your twitter client seems to work pretty well. It just needs a pretty icon, HVIF style :)[23:35:32] <petterhj> (you are welcome to post a news post if you want, at hug-nordic)[23:35:48] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:36:05] *** phoudoin has joined #haiku[23:36:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phoudoin[23:37:07] <martinhpedersen_> Good to hear:) Hehe... I know, but I'm really bad at icons... so I'm hoping someone with some talent will do it;)[23:37:15] *** kirilla has quit IRC[23:37:52] <martinhpedersen_> That would be nice! How do I post it? Email it to someone? Never done one of those before;)[23:38:02] <petterhj> we'll probably have some "social network"-icons soon enough :)[23:38:21] <martinhpedersen_> =)[23:39:04] <petterhj> martinhpedersen_: I haven't really tested it my self, but I hope posting works for members as well.. just log in and visit the admin link at the bottom.. (if it doesn't work, I have a lot of stuff to code :\)[23:39:34] <petterhj> I don't remember if I implemented support for member posting, but I think I did ;)[23:39:50] *** genki has joined #haiku[23:40:21] *** DDevine has joined #haiku[23:42:04] <Koki_> petter: I am actually putting the whole common menu and icons in a shared template so that it can be easily modified[23:42:21] <Koki_> haiku-os.org is indeed not responding[23:43:27] <petterhj> Koki_: sounds good, let me know when you need someone to try it out..[23:44:20] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[23:44:47] <Koki_> looks like the same error as the other day: http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-sysadmin/Notification-for-1884089175-httpERROR,9[23:45:37] <martinhpedersen_> petterhj: Looks good, I got to the "New Post" page:) I'll try to post it tomorrow then =) It's getting late... see u:)[23:45:58] <Koki_> good night martinhpedersen_ :)[23:46:11] <petterhj> martinhpedersen_: thats good.. good night :)[23:46:20] <martinhpedersen_> night =)[23:47:49] <Koki_> hmmm... apparently, skyos.org is no more[23:49:11] <HeTo> am I completely mistaken or wasn't it .com to begin with?[23:50:14] <HeTo> at least both of those are just parked domains now[23:50:19] <Koki_> well, that one is gone too :)[23:51:14] *** LinuxKeitaro has joined #haiku[23:55:24] *** martinhpedersen_ has quit IRC[23:55:39] *** diogen has joined #haiku[23:59:50] <CIA-50> phoudoin * r35806 /haiku/trunk/ (headers/os/opengl/GLView.h src/kits/opengl/GLView.cpp): Made BGLView by default freely resizable by layout manager. I'm not sure I didn't break binary compatibility, please review.