March 8, 2010 
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March 8, 2010 [00:01:17] <mmlr_mc> it might work around broken bioses that run into trouble when controller ownership is established explicitly even though they currently don't have ownership[00:02:09] <mmlr_mc> how stupid need an implementation be that it runs into an smi flood for a no-op?[00:04:28] *** PacoLinux has quit IRC[00:04:57] <MrSunshine_> is there any boot manager installable without having linux ? :/[00:05:11] <MrSunshine_> i only have windwos and haiku on the computer and im tired of booting from cd to start haiku[00:05:18] <Cian> bootman[00:05:21] <Cian> from haiku...[00:05:27] <MrSunshine_> can that boot windows? :)[00:05:38] <Cian> yes[00:06:01] <Cian> been using it for aaages[00:06:27] *** markos_ has quit IRC[00:06:41] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[00:08:49] *** S_2010 has quit IRC[00:09:09] <MrSunshine_> thanks =)[00:09:29] <CIA-50> stippi * r35782 /haiku/trunk/ (12 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)[00:09:29] <CIA-50> * Added BCursorID enumeration in App Kit's Cursor.h and new constructor which[00:09:29] <CIA-50> takes such an id.[00:09:29] <CIA-50> * Reused the existing mechanism to to have hardcoded tokens for the system[00:09:29] <CIA-50> cursors, i.e. removed cursor_which enumeration from ServerProtocol.h and[00:09:29] <CIA-50> used BCursorID where cursor_which was previously used.[00:09:29] *** S_2010 has joined #haiku[00:09:30] <CIA-50> * Reworked CursorManager.h and CursorSet.h accordingly and removed some methods[00:10:14] *** S_2010 has left #haiku[00:11:19] <Cian> anyone get the feelig stippi's doing the custom cursor support in webpositive? ;)[00:12:28] <MrSunshine_> i dont get it why they cant make all usb chips equal or just for the love of god use one and not 100 different :P[00:15:01] *** blitzkrieg has joined #haiku[00:15:30] <blitzkrieg> luroh: got wifi working like a champ[00:16:51] <largo> blitzkrieg: awesome. which chipset? :)[00:17:19] <blitzkrieg> intel 3945abg[00:17:31] <largo> Cian: I was wondering about the sudden flurry of cursor work. ;)[00:17:38] <blitzkrieg> latest haiku build with wep turned off ended up wrokin g out of the box[00:18:01] <luroh> hey that's great[00:18:11] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[00:18:20] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[00:18:21] <largo> blitzkrieg: awesome :) I might end up looking for a new wifi card... I've had nothing but problems with this one in anything outside of Windows. :( (and even in windows initially)[00:18:52] *** surrounder has quit IRC[00:19:12] *** wildur has quit IRC[00:19:14] *** DaaT has quit IRC[00:19:37] *** OlaHughson is now known as lurima[00:19:38] <blitzkrieg> largo what card you got[00:19:57] *** lurima has quit IRC[00:20:04] <blitzkrieg> luroh : thanks for all the input yesturday[00:20:14] <largo> atheros 5416 chipset I believe.[00:20:36] <largo> D-Link DWA 552 802.11N card.[00:20:43] <luroh> np, glad you didn't have to jump through the irq routing hoops...[00:20:53] <blitzkrieg> wow not seen toomany of those cards[00:20:54] <largo> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=531[00:21:04] <blitzkrieg> me too[00:21:31] * daste is porting LV2 to Haiku, is it ok to expect plugins to be located in /boot/common/add-ons/lv2 ?[00:21:46] <blitzkrieg> DHCP also seems to work fine on it didnt have to static the IP[00:22:05] <luroh> same here, dhcp seems to work fine[00:22:25] <blitzkrieg> now if we can just make it do wep[00:23:10] <largo> someone posted a very unofficial wep code file in here a day or two ago. :P[00:23:54] <mmadia> documenting how to use it would be fantastic.[00:24:06] <DraX> lv2?[00:24:10] *** carlll has joined #haiku[00:24:16] <mmadia> *hint*, *hint*, *nudge*[00:24:19] <daste> http://lv2.plug.in[00:24:28] <DraX> dns fail[00:24:29] <largo> (5:51:15 PM) DraX: http://alexbl.net/~alexbl/setwep.c[00:24:30] <daste> audio plugins, that is[00:24:37] <carlll> can anyone here send me a cd pls?[00:24:45] <carlll> my internet is SUPER slow[00:25:02] <daste> DraX, sorry http://lv2plug.in[00:25:44] <DraX> neat[00:26:18] <DDevine> daste: looks good.[00:27:34] <daste> DDevine, ok thanks :-)[00:28:06] <blitzkrieg> haiku will read cd burnt from windows wont it?[00:30:19] *** Auronandace has quit IRC[00:31:22] <Cian> yeah[00:31:23] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:31:44] <blitzkrieg> thanks[00:32:08] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[00:32:18] <largo> mmadia: re :)[00:32:24] * largo brews up some coffee...[00:34:00] *** genkie has joined #haiku[00:36:46] * mmadia mumbles something about FreeBSD 8.0, @nightly-cd, and not booting[00:40:03] *** Cian has quit IRC[00:41:23] <mmlr_mc> mmadia: possibly the kernel got too large for the cd[00:41:54] <mmlr_mc> the floppy boot image has a fixed size and it might have run over[00:41:57] <mmadia> freebsd 7.2 & haiku create the iso successfully.[00:42:16] <mmlr_mc> ah, then not I guess[00:42:39] <mmlr_mc> proper cdrecord mkisofs is installed I presume, not the genisoimage one[00:43:00] <mmadia> and i've swapped haiku-boot-floppy.image from Haiku & fbsd 8.0 to test that... haiku's tmp/cdsource/* + fbsd 8.0's boot-floppy.image worked properly.[00:43:42] <mmadia> yes, BSD uses Joerg's sources. and the newest version is installed on both 8.0 & 7.2[00:44:09] <mmadia> and Haiku's boot-floppy.image + fbsd's 8.0 tmp/cdsource failed in the same manner.[00:44:39] <mmadia> here's all of my notes : http://haiku.pastebin.com/57iZR4vT[00:44:41] <mmlr_mc> that'd seem rather odd[00:45:39] *** carlll has left #haiku[00:46:57] <mmlr_mc> mmadia: so it's the files built on 8.0 and not the boot floppy part[00:47:42] <mmadia> yes. also, 8.0 & 7.2 are using --use-xattr on UFS2, so it's not an emulated attributes issue.[00:48:00] <mmlr_mc> the thing is that the floppy image should be booted in any case[00:48:18] <mmlr_mc> it may fail at the stage where it tries to mount the boot file system[00:48:30] <mmlr_mc> but in any case the floppy image should boot[00:48:35] *** MattLacey has joined #haiku[00:48:39] <mmadia> yep, it fails to find any BFS partitions.[00:48:49] <mmlr_mc> yeah, but too early[00:49:13] <mmadia> rather, the BFS partition on the CD. if the host machine has them, the CD's boot menu will display them.[00:49:16] <mmlr_mc> the floppy image contains the kernel and all, so it should boot halfway[00:49:44] <mmlr_mc> well there's no bfs on these cds[00:49:51] <mmlr_mc> but there doesn't need to be[00:50:14] <mmlr_mc> as at the stage where the volume is mounted the kernel and the filesystem modules are loaded[00:50:24] <mmlr_mc> so it has iso9660 and the overlays ready[00:52:43] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[00:53:07] <mmadia> would it be possible for me to zip 8.0's <generated>/tmp , extract that in 7.2 or Haiku and manually run the mkisofs command?[00:53:38] <mmlr_mc> that should work as the attributes are in the stores anywa[00:53:38] <mmlr_mc> y[00:57:07] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[00:59:04] *** LaceySnr has joined #haiku[00:59:04] *** MattLacey has quit IRC[01:00:13] <mmlr_mc> mmadia: are the current nightly isos affected by that?[01:00:53] <mmadia> i removed them already & switched uploading+continuous integration to my fbsd 7.2 box.[01:01:14] <mmlr_mc> where can I get a broken image?[01:01:35] <mmadia> i'll make one and scp it to haiku-files.[01:01:43] <mmlr_mc> ok[01:03:08] <mmadia> also, i even tried the revision before stippi's partition detection commit... made no difference.[01:03:31] <LaceySnr> guys is it possible to do double buffered drawing with direct draw ?[01:03:43] <mmadia> mmlr_mc : is 7zip ok?[01:03:48] <mmlr_mc> sure[01:04:09] <mmlr_mc> it's really not supposed to fail that early[01:04:39] <OmniMancer> LaceySnr: this be not windows there be no DirrctDraw here :P[01:06:40] *** ecin has joined #haiku[01:08:09] <ecin> Coincidentally, seeing how there were talks about LLVM: http://fseek.me/2010/03/how-to-convince-any-c-developer-to-dump-gcc-and-use-clang/[01:08:47] <ecin> Also, it ships with wget but not with curl? Amazing! :O[01:08:59] <LaceySnr> direct window drawing :)[01:12:34] *** peerkoel has quit IRC[01:12:36] <vooshy> ecin: did you have a go at building?[01:12:44] <ecin> vooshy: Getting back to it now.[01:13:38] <vooshy> ecin: I was tempted but not in the mood tonight, pulled the svn down[01:13:51] <vooshy> ecin: might have a go tomorrow[01:14:09] <ecin> All right. I'll write here any findings I have.[01:14:15] *** LaceySnr has quit IRC[01:14:28] *** MattLacey has joined #haiku[01:14:35] <MattLacey> wow[01:14:39] <MattLacey> getting lots of lockups today[01:15:09] <stpere> lots of lockups != lol[01:15:19] * OmniMancer yays because people are building llvm[01:15:33] *** Sryche has quit IRC[01:15:42] <MattLacey> had to reboot about 3 times already[01:15:47] <MattLacey> yesterday I was having no troubles[01:15:54] <mmadia> MattLacey, what's the error?[01:16:46] <Disreali> OmniMancer, someone got llvm built on haikuk?[01:16:49] <ecin> tar -zxvf (no), zip (no extract feature) and finally unzip.[01:17:07] <ecin> Disreali: we're giving it a try, but someone earlier did mention having success.[01:17:47] <ecin> And of course, not having curl fscks up git. *goes on the hunt again*[01:18:13] <mmadia> ecin : installoptionalpackage -l[01:18:31] <ecin> mmadia: you and I could get along really well.[01:18:42] <mmadia> i made that script too ;)[01:19:00] <Disreali> ecin, that would probably have been me replting that I read 'somewhwere' 'somenone' was working on it[01:19:26] <ecin> MrSunshine: llvm is easy[01:19:27] <ecin> [5:40pm] MrSunshine: http://www.haikuware.com/directory/view-details/development/language/ldc-+-tango in that package ive included patches for llvm 2.6[01:19:27] <ecin> [5:40pm] MrSunshine: i think it is[01:20:13] <MattLacey> is there a vsync wait function somehwerE?[01:20:19] <MattLacey> i seem to remember one from beos[01:22:18] *** BeRReGoN has quit IRC[01:25:44] <ecin> mmadia: hopefully Ruby will be installable with that script soon. :)[01:26:42] <mmadia> ecin : that script feeds off Haiku's build/jam/OptionalPackages files -- though, i could see at least a few devs wanting Ruby as an optionalpackage.[01:31:07] *** triplez has quit IRC[01:34:43] *** Barrett has quit IRC[01:39:35] *** BeRReGoN has joined #haiku[01:40:27] <OmniMancer> Disreali: I have built it in the long distant past of last year[01:43:31] *** peerkoel has joined #haiku[01:44:37] <daste> excuse me, is something like __HAIKU__ defined when compiling C source code?[01:44:44] <daste> i mean #ifdef __HAIKU__ or something?[01:44:49] <OmniMancer> exactly that I think[01:45:46] <daste> ok good[01:46:42] <daste> another thing, slv2 uses as default plugin path something like $HOME/.lv2:/usr/lib/lv2/:/usr/local/lib/lv2[01:46:58] <daste> i was thinking to define it as /boot/home/.lv2:/boot/common/add-ons/lv2[01:47:00] <daste> is that ok?[01:47:31] <OmniMancer> don't forget somewhere in home too[01:47:54] <daste> ..[01:48:15] <daste> isn't /boot/home/.lv2 home?[01:49:08] <mmlr_mc> ideally you'd make it use find_directory()[01:50:19] <mmadia> http://ports.haiku-files.org/wiki/FindDirectory[01:51:13] <daste> mmadia, ok thanks :-)[01:52:22] <OmniMancer> sorry[01:54:17] *** Andrius has quit IRC[01:56:33] <ecin> Is config.guess part of the system?[01:57:26] <MattLacey> grrrrr[01:57:42] <MattLacey> still getting flickering on my drawing even when waiting for vsync[01:58:24] <vooshy> ecin: cp /boot/common/share/libtool/config/config.guess . cp /boot/common/share/libtool/config/config.sub[01:58:24] <mmlr_mc> ecin: it's /boot/common/share/libtool/config[01:58:35] <mmlr_mc> or run the libtoolize stuff[01:58:58] <mmlr_mc> haiku-ports has many of these issues covered in the wiki[01:59:14] *** Megaf_ has joined #haiku[01:59:49] <ecin> mmlr_mc: All right, I'll check that. Thanks.[02:00:00] *** Megaf has quit IRC[02:01:00] *** vooshy has quit IRC[02:06:26] *** oco has quit IRC[02:08:13] *** blitzkrieg has quit IRC[02:10:43] *** mmlr_mc has quit IRC[02:11:05] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[02:11:20] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:11:22] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[02:16:44] <OmniMancer> ecin: do you not listen to me?[02:16:50] <ecin> Hmm?[02:16:56] <OmniMancer> what did I tell you to use?[02:17:39] <OmniMancer> although if you are stubborn and are trying to build 2.6 no matter how much I told you it probably wouldn't matter[02:17:51] <OmniMancer> cmake doesn't have the issue about config.guess[02:18:00] <OmniMancer> neither is the trunk since they updated them...[02:18:23] <ecin> OmniMancer: testing rvm first, a ruby version manager. Haven't reached llvm yet. ;)[02:18:54] <OmniMancer> :P[02:19:02] <OmniMancer> well autoconf is made of evil[02:19:39] <ecin> OmniMancer: maybe. It's using a config.guess that it downloads when trying to install ruby. Just need to overwrite it. :)[02:19:53] <MattLacey> lol[02:20:07] <MattLacey> vim syntax to comment out printf comes out slightly ugly :)[02:20:23] <MattLacey> :%s/printf/\/\/printf/g[02:24:46] <OmniMancer> the fact that autotools do not just work is ugly[02:27:16] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[02:27:31] <daste> ok, lv2 core, some lv2 extensions, slv2, and swh lv2 plugins ported :-)[02:28:15] <daste> now i'm giving instructions to another guy who hopefully will write some host or media server addon for this stuff[02:33:28] *** triplez has joined #haiku[02:33:49] *** saivert has quit IRC[02:33:50] *** m0ns00n has quit IRC[02:33:50] *** kjalarr has quit IRC[02:35:12] *** saivert has joined #haiku[02:35:12] *** m0ns00n has joined #haiku[02:35:12] *** kjalarr has joined #haiku[02:35:26] *** daste has quit IRC[02:38:14] *** daste has joined #haiku[02:39:17] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC[02:41:08] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku[02:45:35] *** daste has quit IRC[02:46:02] <OmniMancer> now what is lv2?[02:51:06] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[02:51:16] <flameshadow> One more than level 1?[02:53:26] <stpere> yaa[02:53:31] <stpere> (yet another acronym)[02:53:35] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[02:53:41] <DraX> http://lv2plug.in[02:53:47] <DraX> google is your friend[02:57:45] *** luroh has quit IRC[02:59:00] *** kjalarr has quit IRC[02:59:53] *** kjalarr has joined #haiku[03:05:01] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[03:06:11] *** LinuxKeitaro has quit IRC[03:06:54] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[03:11:55] <OmniMancer> ah[03:12:05] <OmniMancer> I hope lmms will eventually support that :P[03:12:59] <CIA-50> mmadia * r35783 /haiku/trunk/build/scripts/build_tgz_archive:[03:12:59] <CIA-50> Explicitly tell tar to use the ustar format when creating the tgz archive. This[03:12:59] <CIA-50> resolves the issue of FreeBSD 8.0 of creating ISOs that will not boot. ISO[03:12:59] <CIA-50> creation was also tested with FreeBSD 7.2 and Haiku r35767 gcc2hybrid.[03:25:18] <CIA-50> mmadia * r35784 /haiku/trunk/build/scripts/ (build_haiku_cd build_tgz_archive build_zip_archive):[03:25:18] <CIA-50> Use "set -o errexit" to error out when a command failed. Make sure parent[03:25:18] <CIA-50> directories are created as needed.[03:35:00] <MattLacey> hey guys - just uploaded the screensaver I've been working on[03:35:02] <MattLacey> http://www.haikuware.com/directory/view-details/utilities/screensavers/boids-screensaver[03:35:14] <MattLacey> if anyone wants to give it a test it'd be much appreciated![03:35:17] <MattLacey> going for lunch :)[03:35:22] *** MattLacey is now known as MattLacey|Lunch[03:38:22] <stpere> hmmm[03:38:32] <mmadia> blank for you too?[03:38:34] <stpere> on windows, I would be very cautios[03:38:37] <stpere> cautious[03:38:44] <stpere> I mean.. it screams malware :)[03:38:57] <stpere> run this please, no config no nothing, no screenshot[03:39:02] <stpere> no sources[03:40:32] <MattLacey|Lunch> it's not malware[03:40:38] <MattLacey|Lunch> it's compiled with GCC 4.3[03:40:42] <MattLacey|Lunch> just realised I forgot to mention that[03:40:58] <MattLacey|Lunch> the preview is blank I know that much[03:41:07] <MattLacey|Lunch> the actual screen saver should work though[03:41:11] <MattLacey|Lunch> ah feck[03:41:14] <MattLacey|Lunch> I should make better notes[03:41:19] <MattLacey|Lunch> it also only works in 32bit screen modes[03:41:35] <MattLacey|Lunch> I'll sort that out this afternoon[03:43:29] * MattLacey|Lunch updates the description[03:43:45] <MattLacey|Lunch> how do you grab a screen shot in haiku?[03:44:07] <MattLacey|Lunch> don't answer that[03:44:11] * MattLacey|Lunch slaps himself for asking[03:44:23] <stpere> :)[03:44:51] <stpere> sorry if I sound rude, it's not on purpose[03:45:05] <MattLacey|Lunch> nah that's coo[03:45:05] <MattLacey|Lunch> ll[03:45:09] <MattLacey|Lunch> I'd be totally the same :)[03:45:19] <mmadia> yeah, it's just a coincidental string of typos :P[03:47:10] <MattLacey|Lunch> typos?[03:47:33] <mmadia> ... just a horribly lame joke.[03:47:37] <stpere> haha[03:48:00] <stpere> fuck you.. I meant thank you.. sorry[03:48:06] <stpere> :P[03:48:08] <mmadia> :)[03:48:09] * MattLacey|Lunch just added a screenshot[03:48:22] <MattLacey|Lunch> though I don't have anything installed for cropping so unless you click the thumbnail you'll just see black :)[03:48:57] <MattLacey|Lunch> bbiab[03:49:18] <mmadia> MattLacey|Lunch : ShowImage can to basic image manipulation.[03:54:28] <MattLacey|Lunch> I will actually go in a minute :)[03:54:36] <MattLacey|Lunch> I tried ShowImage - it has resize but doesn't have crop[03:54:37] <stpere> :P[03:54:42] <MattLacey|Lunch> if I resize I'll probalby lose detail anyway[03:55:03] <mmadia> use the mouse to select a region & drag it to the desktop as a bitmap clip[03:55:14] <MattLacey|Lunch> oh sweet[03:55:19] * MattLacey|Lunch crops[03:55:42] <mmadia> it supports copy/pasting too.[03:56:31] *** Sryche has joined #haiku[03:56:32] *** Sryche has joined #haiku[03:58:15] <MattLacey|Lunch> sorted[03:58:38] <MattLacey|Lunch> so does it not render for you mmadia?[03:59:04] <mmadia> no, though i'm gcc2hybrid. so it may be an issue with loading gcc4 screen savers.[03:59:11] *** MattLacey|Lunch has quit IRC[03:59:24] *** MattLacey has joined #haiku[03:59:32] <MattLacey> haiku is not showing me love today :([03:59:36] <MattLacey> just had to reboot again[03:59:40] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[04:00:16] <MattLacey> brb[04:05:07] *** MattLacey has quit IRC[04:18:16] *** surround1r has quit IRC[04:18:20] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[04:21:49] *** orbframe has joined #haiku[04:22:48] <orbframe> Evening all[04:23:10] *** surrounder has quit IRC[04:23:20] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[04:37:05] *** MattLacey has joined #haiku[04:46:01] *** LaceySnr has joined #haiku[04:46:01] *** MattLacey has quit IRC[04:53:14] *** orbframe has quit IRC[04:55:09] *** Disreali has quit IRC[05:17:54] *** petterhj-___ has joined #haiku[05:30:04] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[05:36:39] <AlienSoldier> haiku review video can be the best form of comedy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVVsjG2xwmU[05:37:14] <AlienSoldier> that one is about as funny as the guy that launched snow as a first test[05:37:42] <OmniMancer> and concluded that it was slow due to BSnow being a CPU hog?[05:38:31] <AlienSoldier> well let say that he was quite confused[05:38:39] <AlienSoldier> seem haiku confuse well :)[05:39:16] <OmniMancer> :P[05:40:17] <OmniMancer> click the top one[05:40:26] <OmniMancer> that is gonna make a lot of people unhappy[05:41:26] <AlienSoldier> top one?[05:43:59] <OmniMancer> in the partition setup :P[05:45:23] <AlienSoldier> i would love to see him do an oberon or plan 9 review :)[05:49:23] <OmniMancer> lol deskbar disappeared[05:49:28] <OmniMancer> which version of haiku is this?[05:51:05] <OmniMancer> and he has not tried to minimise the window :P[05:51:11] <cherrypie> lol, that was a waste[05:52:10] <OmniMancer> then he goes to look for the apps in the hard drive and complains about levels[05:52:19] <OmniMancer> that reviewer is somewhat of an idiot[05:53:15] <OmniMancer> lol subdirectories for one application which is quite messy[05:53:31] <AlienSoldier> like i said, comedy waithing to happen[05:53:32] <OmniMancer> what the idiot does not realise is that he is looking at the actual installation dir[05:53:38] <AlienSoldier> *wating[05:53:47] *** Nozy has quit IRC[05:53:53] <AlienSoldier> just like my typos :)[05:53:56] <OmniMancer> this guy is such an idiot he obviously has never really used a computer properly :P[05:54:19] <OmniMancer> he says it really needs some polish[05:54:26] <OmniMancer> I say he really needs some education :P[05:54:48] <AlienSoldier> he say he will do a proper review later :) can't wait for it[05:55:53] <AlienSoldier> i wonder if those 2 joe from that linux show ever made a follow up, i remember them going bonx over haiku[05:56:06] <AlienSoldier> forgot the name of the show[05:56:07] <mmadia> *thinks of next review... * "ok. i moved the items in the navigation menu to top level and removed the ones that contain junk, and the system has stopped working."[05:57:24] *** wry has joined #haiku[05:57:44] <AlienSoldier> i got it: "THE COMPUTER ACTION SHOW!"[05:58:08] <OmniMancer> mmadia: deskbar crashed when he tried to open bezilla to view the bebook[05:58:18] <mmadia> i saw it :)[05:58:21] *** PathagenX has joined #haiku[05:58:30] <OmniMancer> so to be fair the main navigation thing disappeared so he can't really be blamed[05:58:39] <OmniMancer> but he still is a little bit of an idiot :P[05:58:59] <LaceySnr> why the hell am I having so much trouble getting 16 bit colors right?![06:00:03] <AlienSoldier> LaceySnr what is the problem?[06:00:07] <LaceySnr> surely they're not indexed?[06:00:16] <LaceySnr> well my screen saver only rendered in 32 bit because I was being lazy[06:00:22] <LaceySnr> so I've started to add 16 bit support[06:00:30] <OmniMancer> he complains about the navigation but what if we took away the start menu in windows and forced you to look through program files to find things[06:00:43] <OmniMancer> if you do that then haiku seems logical and easy to use by comparison[06:00:51] <LaceySnr> but for some reason I can't get the colours correct - i.e. 1<< 15 | r << 10 | g << 5 | b doesn't seem to work[06:01:40] <AlienSoldier> ok, i was thinking it was a videocard driver problem[06:01:48] <LaceySnr> nah just code[06:01:53] <LaceySnr> makes no sense to me though[06:02:02] <OmniMancer> workspaces is in apps now?[06:02:10] <LaceySnr> it's not exactly a complicated subject so it must just work differently to how I expect or something[06:02:24] <mmadia> OmniMancer : no, Desktop Applets.[06:02:33] <OmniMancer> ah[06:02:38] <OmniMancer> well on his it shows in apps[06:02:43] <mmadia> but yea, /boot/system/apps[06:02:53] <OmniMancer> I still can't get over that he did not realise he was browsing the volume[06:03:09] <OmniMancer> he should have named it MyAwesomeHaikuSystem[06:03:14] <OmniMancer> then he would have noticed[06:04:19] <AlienSoldier> i was to comment a "you do it wrong", but someone mentioned the deskbar menu in the comment[06:05:11] <OmniMancer> mhmm[06:05:22] <OmniMancer> and it should be "You're doing it wrong"[06:06:11] *** petterhj-___ has quit IRC[06:07:17] <Advant_> LaceySnr: easier if you do it in hex, and print out the shifts, to make sure your RGB in correct place[06:09:04] <OmniMancer> I do say perhaps we should put a thing that bugs you to click on the leaf menu until you do?[06:10:02] <OmniMancer> by the way why does ubuntu have a thing against releasing latest versions in the package repos?[06:13:52] <OmniMancer> also that guys ubuntu flame[06:14:10] <OmniMancer> does he realise that the updates are not just critical stability updates?[06:15:48] <OmniMancer> he has points but then ubuntu updates compared to windows[06:16:01] <OmniMancer> ubuntu is updating the whole OS and all installed programs[06:17:12] <Advant_> OmniMancer: depends who is responsible for updating app package isn't it as well?[06:19:11] *** [1]ormandj has joined #haiku[06:19:31] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[06:21:36] *** ormandj has quit IRC[06:21:36] *** [1]ormandj is now known as ormandj[06:22:15] <OmniMancer> indeed[06:22:34] <OmniMancer> its just that on windows the number of updates will have some bearing on the stability of the system[06:22:40] <OmniMancer> on ubuntu you lose tha[06:22:40] <OmniMancer> t[06:24:02] <OmniMancer> what does annoy me is that ubuntu comes with so much preinstalled[06:24:17] <OmniMancer> but does not have the libc-dev package[06:24:22] *** jmayfield__ has joined #haiku[06:24:33] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[06:26:07] <LaceySnr> ah![06:26:20] <LaceySnr> I thought the unused bit was the other end[06:26:24] * LaceySnr has 16bit working ;)[06:26:54] <OmniMancer> :P[06:27:11] <OmniMancer> now use 32bit instead[06:27:28] <LaceySnr> lol[06:27:30] <LaceySnr> should be fine[06:27:35] <LaceySnr> emphasis on the *should*[06:27:41] <LaceySnr> 16 bit isn't quite right yet though[06:27:45] <LaceySnr> but I worked out what was wrong at least[06:28:06] * OmniMancer puts emphasis on the 32[06:28:46] *** ecin_ has joined #haiku[06:29:37] *** ecin has quit IRC[06:29:37] *** ecin_ is now known as ecin[06:37:04] *** mmadia has quit IRC[06:45:17] *** ormandj has quit IRC[06:49:51] *** pica has joined #haiku[06:51:50] *** jmayfield__ has quit IRC[06:52:48] *** jmayfiel1 has joined #haiku[06:52:51] *** flameshadow has quit IRC[06:54:06] *** bjl- has quit IRC[06:55:04] <CIA-50> scottmc * r627 /haikuports/trunk/dev-libs/expat/ (3 files): Removed old patch as it's not really needed, initial add of .bep file for expat, and corrected the .OptionalPackageDescription file.[07:06:18] *** pica is now known as flameshadow[07:13:36] *** LaceySnr has quit IRC[07:14:44] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[07:20:11] *** fhein has joined #haiku[07:22:27] *** haikufan has joined #haiku[07:24:13] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[07:28:53] <haikufan> *cough*[07:29:41] *** haikufan has quit 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And fhein, someone wants to write Ruby wrappers for GSoC. :P[08:12:41] <H_MrSun> resolve symbol "__ti9exception" returned: -2147478780[08:12:41] <H_MrSun> runtime_loader: /boot/system/lib/libstdc++.r4.so: Troubles relocating: Symbol not found[08:16:16] <H_MrSun> runtime_loader: /boot/home/projects/BeAPID/bec/libbec.so: Could not resolve symbol '_ZN9BMimeType18_ReservedMimeType1Ev'[08:16:19] <H_MrSun> wtf is up with this :/[08:18:08] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[08:18:29] <H_MrSun> i dont get it, why does it do like that! =)[08:19:03] <OmniMancer> well obviously it can't find a symbol[08:19:14] <H_MrSun> well why the heck not :)[08:19:29] <H_MrSun> now =)[08:19:38] <H_MrSun> and looks like it works =)[08:19:44] <OmniMancer> :P[08:19:55] <H_MrSun> my bidirectional D->C->D bridge =)[08:19:58] <H_MrSun> i forgot a -L-lbe[08:20:04] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[08:20:07] <OmniMancer> lolololololololol[08:21:52] *** surrounder has quit IRC[08:23:39] *** impy has quit IRC[08:24:17] *** impy has joined #haiku[08:24:52] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[08:33:19] *** markos_ has quit IRC[08:33:19] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[08:35:14] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[08:36:05] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[08:41:09] <H_MrSun> well looks like BDataIO is done now atleast =)[08:41:17] <H_MrSun> works great, works with inheritance inside D etc =)[08:41:24] *** AlexFera has quit IRC[08:41:32] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[08:41:38] <H_MrSun> im so freakin good it hurts me to be so good[08:41:38] <H_MrSun> =)[08:43:03] <H_MrSun> i realy should document this C layer and how to work with it somehow :/[08:43:19] <H_MrSun> as it will be written to work with any language that wants to bind to BeAPI :)[08:43:27] <H_MrSun> or is supposed to :)[08:43:32] *** J-Ho has joined #haiku[08:43:42] <OmniMancer> yes[08:43:45] <OmniMancer> please do[08:43:57] <OmniMancer> since a C api to the Be API will help a lot with porting[08:44:02] <H_MrSun> mm =)[08:44:10] <H_MrSun> thinking of making a repository for it somewhere[08:44:17] <H_MrSun> incase someone wants to help =)[08:44:28] <H_MrSun> and so code doesnt get lost somewhere :)[08:48:06] <H_MrSun> web+ works great! ==)[08:49:59] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[08:51:06] <H_MrSun> hmm, but got a bit of a problem with how to make inheritance realy, say i have a BWindow::Draw or something like that, i override that in D so when i call BWindow.Draw it calls the D function, the D function calls some other BWindow function that is in C, then the C function calls BWindow::Draw in C, i would want that to go into D then wouldnt i incase i have the routines there for it, but the BWindow::Draw in C will call[08:51:06] <H_MrSun> BWindow::Draw and not the D[08:51:33] <H_MrSun> and as far as i know without alot of magic i wouldnt be able to make the difference if its implemented in D or just C :P[08:51:50] <H_MrSun> maybe shouldnt even matter[08:54:46] <OmniMancer> why not subclass the classes to provide ones that do call the D stuff instead and use those to make the D classes[08:55:04] <H_MrSun> i do that when it comes to pure virtuals[08:55:33] <H_MrSun> so they call a bind_ClassName_FunctionName that needs to be implemented in the end language[08:57:10] *** cpr420 has quit IRC[09:03:12] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[09:10:22] *** surround1r is now known as surrounder[09:12:51] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[09:17:48] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[09:20:32] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[09:25:04] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[09:32:05] <largo> http://fqxi.org/community/articles/display/129[09:32:21] <largo> oops... wrong window. :/ sorry.[09:40:30] <flameshadow> nono. We now know you read articles about how Einstein was wrong[09:40:32] *** Andrius[] has joined #haiku[09:40:33] <flameshadow> hater.[09:40:39] *** Andrius has quit IRC[09:41:02] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[09:45:16] <flameshadow> Although I would mention that there was a (I think) Scientific American article back in the late 90s that indirectly made an explanation about why gravity was so weak. Even before the [super]string/M-Theorists gained a toehold of legitimacy[09:52:20] *** stippi has joined #haiku[09:52:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:52:31] <flameshadow> Ah, here we go. The article was "The Universe's Unseen Dimensions" of Scientific American; August 2000.[09:55:30] <stippi> flameshadow: Do flames indeed throw a shadow?[09:55:37] <flameshadow> Only when in the presence of a brighter light[09:55:39] <stippi> I always wondered that...[09:55:43] <CIA-50> pulkomandy * r35785 /haiku/trunk/ (9 files in 9 dirs): Update ukrainian translation.[09:55:44] <stippi> Ah, then they do?[09:55:48] <flameshadow> yes[09:55:51] <stippi> cool[09:55:58] <stippi> nice nick.[09:56:03] <flameshadow> cheers =)[09:56:06] <stippi> hehe[09:56:58] <OmniMancer> they throw an inverse shadow otherwise :P[09:57:08] <flameshadow> negative dark?[09:57:23] <flameshadow> That's a decent nick, too[09:58:41] *** Kokito has quit IRC[10:00:23] *** gwenael has quit IRC[10:00:55] *** wildur has joined #haiku[10:03:14] *** Sryche has quit IRC[10:06:02] * stippi is waiting for his WebKit build to finish...[10:06:35] <flameshadow> A watched program never compiles.[10:06:59] <OmniMancer> how is haiku's pthreads support coming along?[10:07:39] <stippi> OmniMancer: What do you mean? It should work since a long while.[10:08:11] <OmniMancer> work and full proper support are different[10:09:38] <OmniMancer> are the nightlies currently usable?[10:10:03] <stippi> They should be. I am running trunk at the moment.[10:10:26] <stippi> The version before was stable for me and there were no kernel changes in the meantime.[10:11:02] <stippi> OmniMancer: If you can't point out a problem in Haiku's pthread implementation, I am not sure how I can say anything meaningful.[10:15:01] <OmniMancer> stippi: I will check again after updating but I think I did have one[10:15:12] <OmniMancer> not a large problem but a problem[10:15:20] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[10:15:37] *** Auronandace has joined #haiku[10:15:39] <stippi> OmniMancer: I found a ticket for trylock being implemented wrongly.[10:16:08] <OmniMancer> there is also something with errors and joining non existant threads I think[10:16:21] <OmniMancer> but again I must check[10:22:10] <largo> I didn't think flames threw a shadow, but that they merely distorted the light by heating the air.[10:22:24] <largo> so you're not seeing a shadow per se, but bent light creating light/dark patterns.[10:27:27] <flameshadow> I disagree[10:28:17] <flameshadow> But it comes down to whether plasma can be opaque enough to block light[10:32:29] *** noldsel has joined #haiku[10:35:56] *** Andrius[] has quit IRC[10:35:56] <OmniMancer> they do both![10:36:16] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[10:53:11] *** peerkoel has quit IRC[11:00:10] * OmniMancer updates his haiku and tests the installation to the temp partition from haiku[11:02:37] <MrSunshine_> i just love what music can do with your body =)[11:02:42] <MrSunshine_> tingling all over etc =)[11:02:54] <MrSunshine_> http://open.spotify.com/track/6fdbjJY6CtMfo9eXDdUV34 just LOVE it! =)[11:03:00] <MrSunshine_> but will get tired of it soon as much as i listen to it :P[11:06:56] * largo doesn't know how to play that. F[11:06:57] <largo> :F[11:08:45] * OmniMancer dislikes things like that.[11:10:06] <MrSunshine_> Spotify =)[11:10:12] *** triplez has quit IRC[11:10:28] <MrSunshine_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRL2uFGgVC8[11:11:14] <MrSunshine_> omg[11:11:21] <MrSunshine_> the pictures in that one wasnt a sight for sore eyes :P[11:13:30] *** gwenael has joined #haiku[11:14:23] * OmniMancer goes back to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BugFniXE1rc[11:15:54] *** gwenael has quit IRC[11:16:04] *** gwenael has joined #haiku[11:16:27] * largo goes back to http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Hikari_to_Tomo_ni[11:19:00] *** TechnoMancer|Hai has joined #haiku[11:19:24] <TechnoMancer|Hai> heelo[11:23:33] <TechnoMancer|Hai> why cant tracker display the partitions in /dev/disk/ata/0/master?[11:26:22] *** peerkoel has joined #haiku[11:30:15] *** triplez has joined #haiku[11:30:49] *** TechnoMancer|Hai has quit IRC[11:39:13] <OmniMancer> btw[11:39:32] <OmniMancer> the capitalisation of Desktop applets/Desktop Applets has changed[11:40:51] *** peerkoel has quit IRC[11:44:04] * OmniMancer pokes mmadia[11:55:02] *** wildur has quit IRC[11:56:02] <MrSunshine_> in BeAPI, if i have a BView, the BWindow::Update will call the BView::Draw or something like that right ?[11:56:15] <OmniMancer> yes[11:56:25] <MrSunshine_> that will fuxor upp inheritance in D[11:56:45] <MrSunshine_> if i inherit a BView, overload the Draw function, then the Draw function in D will never be called on BWindow updates[11:57:14] <MrSunshine_> and as i dont know in C++ if it has been inherited in D and can make an if/else for it i dont know how to work around that :([11:58:04] <MrSunshine_> if i knew i could do a "BViewBridge::Draw() { if(InheritedInD) bind_BView_Draw(); else BView::Draw(); }[12:00:38] *** sprma has joined #haiku[12:01:18] <OmniMancer> you could make D be a better language[12:01:40] <OmniMancer> um[12:01:57] <OmniMancer> can't you just always call bind_BView_Draw()?[12:04:17] <MrSunshine_> OmniMancer, but BView::Draw has its own inards? :)[12:04:28] <MrSunshine_> so if its not inherited in D you want it to call that insted? :)[12:04:36] <OmniMancer> then force the D one to atleast call BView::Draw[12:04:49] <OmniMancer> I think D would still have to call it[12:04:56] <MrSunshine_> ahh no =)[12:04:59] <MrSunshine_> its just hook functions[12:05:05] <OmniMancer> so simply make it like in C++ and force them to do it if you don't[12:05:14] <OmniMancer> although I think it is an empty one[12:05:28] <OmniMancer> its processmessage or whatnot that you need to call the base of[12:06:20] <MrSunshine_> its an empty one :)[12:06:26] <MrSunshine_> http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/xref/src/kits/interface/View.cpp#1090[12:06:29] <OmniMancer> processmessage?[12:07:00] <MrSunshine_> well thats one stone from my heart =)[12:07:12] <MrSunshine_> have to cross reference everything i do against the source to figure out the best aproach =)[12:07:31] *** BGA has joined #haiku[12:07:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[12:07:57] <HeTo> MrSunshine_: BView isn't the only class that is usually inherited in applications[12:08:16] <MrSunshine_> no but i found it a good example =)[12:09:14] <OmniMancer> where does haiku keep its siginfo_t?[12:10:51] <OmniMancer> HeTo?[12:11:13] <OmniMancer> geist? stippi?[12:11:58] <MrSunshine_> OmniMancer, grep -R "siginfo_t" /boot/develop/headers ? :)[12:12:06] *** Mixer has quit IRC[12:12:21] * OmniMancer cries.[12:12:36] <MrSunshine_> or use the site[12:12:41] <MrSunshine_> http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/[12:13:15] <MrSunshine_> http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/search?q=%22struct+siginfo_t%22&defs=&refs=&path=&hist=[12:13:17] <MrSunshine_> easy enough =)[12:13:26] <MrSunshine_> wait[12:13:28] <MrSunshine_> thats xref[12:13:29] <MrSunshine_> haha :P[12:13:44] <MrSunshine_> just slap me in the face and call me molly[12:14:14] *** PathagenX has joined #haiku[12:14:40] <MrSunshine_> OmniMancer, signal.h[12:14:42] <MrSunshine_> in posix[12:16:35] <OmniMancer> indeed[12:16:49] <OmniMancer> will that be included from just going #include<signal.h>[12:17:48] <MrSunshine_> i think so[12:17:53] <MrSunshine_> i think posix is added by default to -I[12:17:56] <MrSunshine_> internaly in gcc[12:18:09] <OmniMancer> yes I believe so[12:18:33] <OmniMancer> well it seems that siginfo_t ends up undefined :([12:18:58] <MrSunshine_> l[12:19:03] <MrSunshine_> OmniMancer, c++ or C?[12:19:14] <MrSunshine_> in C you need to do "struct siginfo_t mysig;" i thnk[12:21:47] <OmniMancer> ah[12:21:50] <OmniMancer> I know why[12:22:02] <OmniMancer> siginfo_t seems to not exist in signal.h[12:24:00] <OmniMancer> or more accurately is inside an #if 0.... #endif block[12:25:17] <OmniMancer> when will siginfo_t be supported?[12:27:45] *** Micc has joined #haiku[12:30:48] <OmniMancer> also who works on that kind of stuff?[12:30:56] <OmniMancer> kernely things like that[12:33:12] *** bknoedel has joined #haiku[12:39:35] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[12:42:02] *** bknoedel has quit IRC[12:42:25] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[12:42:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aldeck[12:45:25] *** knottnhupfer has joined #haiku[12:55:12] *** PathagenX has quit IRC[12:59:46] *** fhein has joined #haiku[13:15:33] *** AlexFera has joined #haiku[13:16:40] <CIA-50> stippi * r297 /webkit/trunk/WebKit/haiku/ (4 files in 2 dirs):[13:16:41] <CIA-50> Documented a memory leaking problem with the shutdown process of pages. There[13:16:41] <CIA-50> is one reference too many on the WebCore::Frame. Responsible for getting rid of[13:16:41] <CIA-50> any BWebFrame instances is the FrameLoaderClientHaiku, as in other ports.[13:16:41] <CIA-50> Added tracing which shows the problem.[13:17:46] <CIA-50> stippi * r298 /webkit/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):[13:17:46] <CIA-50> Use the new system cursors. 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(neither am i)[16:38:19] <Auronandace> i think one of the developers here has wep support, but thats not submitted to the nightlies yet[16:39:00] *** lorglas has quit IRC[16:39:04] <oZ]> irq is an 'interrupt request', it's how events are passed through the bus. i would imagine it has to do with how the bus is configured on individual laptops.[16:39:27] <Auronandace> so it's related to acpi then[16:39:28] <panopticon> oZ], thank you[16:39:30] <oZ]> it surprises me that it wouldn't work on the thinkpad, though, as ibm and lenovo generally stay close to reference when using intel chipsets.[16:39:48] <oZ]> Auronandace: Likely. It's possible that resources aren't being allocated to the card properly.[16:40:10] <Auronandace> oh, thanks[16:41:03] *** sprma has joined #haiku[16:41:12] <panopticon> is there any compatible-list on the web?[16:41:43] <Auronandace> i think haikuware has a list of compatible hardware[16:42:12] <panopticon> yes, it does[16:54:58] *** kitallis has joined #haiku[16:55:22] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[16:56:20] *** wildur has joined #haiku[17:00:33] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[17:02:40] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[17:02:49] *** The123king has joined #haiku[17:08:32] *** saivert has quit IRC[17:30:10] *** jmayfiel1 has joined #haiku[17:34:31] *** jmayfiel1 has quit IRC[17:36:19] *** oZ] has quit IRC[17:37:28] <CIA-50> scottmc * r35786 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/OptionalPackages: Updated the expat optional package to fix the incorrect url to it's homepage.[17:38:47] *** kitallis has quit IRC[17:48:04] <CIA-50> scottmc * r628 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anyone tried porting vbox to Haiku?[19:37:03] <DraX> heh[19:37:09] <DraX> it was a pretty big project to port it to freebsd[19:37:20] <DraX> it's probably not easy[19:38:17] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[19:38:30] *** JonathanThompson has quit IRC[19:41:56] *** Kokito has quit IRC[19:47:41] *** mmlr_mc has joined #haiku[19:50:27] *** jmayfiel1 has joined #haiku[19:57:54] *** jmayfiel1 has quit IRC[20:01:57] *** l_n has joined #haiku[20:03:40] <l_n> r35755 locks up on my eee... checked the syslog on the sd card.. didn't see anything obvious..[20:04:05] <l_n> it stalls during boot just before tracker and deskbar replace the splash screen[20:10:46] *** pippobruco has joined #haiku[20:10:50] <pippobruco> hi all[20:13:40] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[20:13:43] <Teknomancer> hi all[20:14:32] <pippobruco> hellp Teknomancer[20:14:36] <pippobruco> hello[20:14:42] <Teknomancer> hi pippobruco[20:14:59] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[20:15:00] *** Animal-X has quit IRC[20:15:02] *** JonathanThompson 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i just need basic line history, using arrow keys etc.,[20:30:02] <Teknomancer> i'd like to keep it as portable as possible but I don't want to use GPL[20:30:10] <DraX> libedit is portable[20:30:22] <DraX> http://www.thrysoee.dk/editline/[20:30:26] <Teknomancer> hm it's not there for Solaris[20:30:34] <Teknomancer> but since it's BSD[20:30:45] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[20:30:46] <DraX> but it is reported to work on solaris[20:30:54] <Teknomancer> I can include libeditline with my code, but i'd rather not[20:31:02] <Teknomancer> yes but I don't see libedit headers on Solaris[20:31:06] <Teknomancer> let me check for binary[20:31:21] <Teknomancer> hm no libedit.so[20:31:25] <Koki_> I switched videos cards on my PC. Haiku handled the change gracefully. ubuntu crapped out :)[20:31:56] <Teknomancer> Koki_ :) cool[20:32:30] <Koki_> I wonder what I am supposed to do to get ubuntu to work now...[20:32:42] *** korli has joined #haiku[20:32:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[20:32:57] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[20:34:29] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[20:34:58] <CIA-50> stippi * r299 /webkit/trunk/WebKit/haiku/ (6 files in 2 dirs):[20:34:58] <CIA-50> Finally wrapped my head around the ref counting problem of WebCore::Frame[20:34:58] <CIA-50> instances. I've confirmed everything working and compared reference counts[20:34:58] <CIA-50> with the Gtk port. Now all frames are correctly free'd. Introduced BWebFrame::[20:34:58] <CIA-50> Shutdown(), to ballance allocations in the same class file.[20:38:01] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[20:38:50] *** Barrett_ has joined #haiku[20:44:33] *** jmayfiel1 has joined #haiku[20:45:46] *** stippi has joined #haiku[20:46:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[20:46:36] *** stippi has quit IRC[20:48:03] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[20:52:49] *** stippi has joined #haiku[20:52:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[20:56:22] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[21:01:02] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[21:01:08] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[21:02:50] *** peerkoel has joined #haiku[21:02:59] *** Teknomancer has left #haiku[21:04:39] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[21:06:28] *** AlexFera has quit IRC[21:08:56] *** AlexFera has joined #haiku[21:09:29] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[21:13:55] *** fhein has quit IRC[21:15:56] <Koki_> upgraded my Haiku build to trunk, but during installation (from CD), I always get an "An error was encountered and the installation was not completed. Error: initialization failed". This alwats happens at the same Install progress point: .OptionalPackageDescription 12084 of 19395. Is this a known problem?[21:17:06] *** Barrett_ has quit IRC[21:20:12] <idefix_xifedi> I've just used the 35778 gcc2hybrid nightly cd to update my installation; hadn't encountered any problems[21:21:20] <Koki_> hmmm... that's weird[21:24:21] *** dakdagi has joined #haiku[21:25:24] <Koki_> well, this is 35786 here, so I am wondering if it is related to the latest BOM complaints...[21:27:12] *** mmlr_mc is now known as mmlr_away[21:29:59] *** MegafSeven has joined #haiku[21:32:44] *** MegafSeven has quit IRC[21:33:49] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[21:34:05] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[21:34:51] <idefix_xifedi> Koki_: error could very well be generated by: http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/xref/src/apps/installer/UnzipEngine.cpp#96[21:35:13] *** dakdagi has quit IRC[21:35:25] <idefix_xifedi> which is caused by an empty zip file, if I understand it correctly[21:36:24] *** BGA has left #haiku[21:36:47] <idefix_xifedi> ehm no, that's not correct[21:37:58] <idefix_xifedi> that's the total of files to extract and that isn't zero in your case[21:38:47] *** jmayfiel1 has quit IRC[21:44:56] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[21:46:14] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[21:48:25] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[21:52:23] *** MrSunshine_ is now known as MrSunshine[21:52:39] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[21:53:27] *** Traveler24 has joined #haiku[21:53:40] *** Traveler24 has quit IRC[21:56:44] *** dakdagi has joined #haiku[21:58:22] *** Koki_ has left #haiku[22:03:35] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[22:04:27] *** AlexFera has quit IRC[22:05:45] *** judgen has joined #haiku[22:08:58] *** AlexFera has joined #haiku[22:10:06] *** The123king has left #haiku[22:11:00] *** Kroki has quit IRC[22:12:10] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[22:12:20] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[22:13:06] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[22:15:48] *** mmlr_away is now known as mmlr_mc[22:19:35] *** LinuxKeitaro has joined #haiku[22:19:39] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:20:47] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[22:24:24] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[22:28:53] *** Kokito has quit IRC[22:30:23] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[22:34:23] *** judgen has quit IRC[22:35:08] *** judgen has joined #haiku[22:36:44] *** luroh has joined #haiku[22:37:56] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[22:38:06] <largo> so are the nightlies building correctly and usable again?[22:38:53] *** cpr420 has quit IRC[22:40:22] <OmniMancer> I installed one on actual hardware yesterday[22:40:34] <OmniMancer> it had some weirdness on the first boot and then worked fine[22:41:16] <OmniMancer> can one install grub into the partitions boot sector after having it in the MBR then wipe the MBR and put bootman in there?[22:41:16] *** Vooshy has joined #haiku[22:41:45] <mmadia> http://www.haiku-os.org/community/gsoc/2010[22:41:53] <mmadia> largo : yes.[22:42:40] *** yourpalal has joined #haiku[22:42:52] <mmadia> new ones will be uploaded upon the next revision too.[22:43:53] <HeTo> OmniMancer: sure[22:44:42] *** korli has quit IRC[22:44:42] <HeTo> although you won't be able to put stage1.5 in there then, so whenever something happens to /boot/grub/stage2, you'll need to reinstall GRUB[22:44:58] <OmniMancer> HeTo: although thinking about it I may just delete the linux and expand the temp partition to cover the whole first part of the drive[22:47:23] *** MegafSeven has joined #haiku[22:47:32] *** MegafSeven has quit IRC[22:52:01] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[22:55:54] *** OmniMancer1 has joined #haiku[22:56:06] <largo> mmadia: thanks.[22:56:19] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[23:01:18] *** krzabr has joined #haiku[23:02:38] *** mmlr_mc is now known as mmlr_away[23:04:22] *** Micc has quit IRC[23:05:00] *** krzabr has left #haiku[23:05:11] *** markos_ has quit IRC[23:06:17] <MrSunshine> asd[23:06:23] <H_MrSun> l[23:10:20] *** dakdagi has quit IRC[23:12:59] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:16:56] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[23:24:43] <OmniMancer1> asdl?[23:25:10] <MrSunshine> just testing if link is still up on haiku computer[23:25:15] <MrSunshine> looks like i managed to fix the driver =)[23:25:30] <MrSunshine> midex int/uint32_t types in the glue code and the driver code[23:25:42] <MrSunshine> chaing everything to uint32_t and the watchdog timer problem just disapeard[23:25:46] <MrSunshine> atleast so far =)[23:26:57] *** H_MrSun has quit IRC[23:30:12] *** PieterPan has joined #haiku[23:30:12] *** Colin_Finck|afk has quit IRC[23:34:37] *** luroh has quit IRC[23:35:07] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[23:39:44] <largo> MrSunshine: which driver was that?[23:41:00] *** yourpalal has quit IRC[23:47:13] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[23:55:52] *** jmayfield has quit IRC[23:59:43] *** brobostigon has quit IRC