March 6, 2010 
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March 6, 2010 [00:01:30] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[00:01:48] <AlienSoldier> mmadia the 31 revision did not helped, still reboot[00:02:11] *** Andrius has quit IRC[00:02:14] <AlienSoldier> 65 also reboot[00:08:23] *** Lynton has quit IRC[00:17:30] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[00:18:43] *** Animal-X has quit IRC[00:22:40] <CIA-50> stippi * r294 /webkit/trunk/WebKit/haiku/WebCoreSupport/ChromeClientHaiku.cpp:[00:22:40] <CIA-50> Check for "null" requests. Prevents a crash when trying to load the resource[00:22:40] <CIA-50> later. As experienced when clicking to close the funny "You are using an old[00:22:40] <CIA-50> browser, use the new Internet Exporer!" banner that slides from the top on[00:22:40] <CIA-50> GMX.net.[00:25:49] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[00:27:09] <Advant> That mean chrome port is enroute?[00:27:45] <DraX> a webkit port is actually pretty useless for a chrome port[00:27:57] <DraX> since chrome uses its own drawing backend[00:27:59] <Advant> i thought chrome used webkit?[00:28:17] <DraX> it does, but most of the ``porting webkit'' stuff is porting it to the drawing backend[00:28:21] <DraX> and chrome uses skea[00:28:25] <Advant> ah[00:28:30] <DraX> skia[00:28:43] <petterhj-> why * care about chrome when you can have a haiku native browser?[00:29:03] *** Auronandace has quit IRC[00:29:08] <DraX> chrome extensions are kind of nice[00:29:24] <DraX> and sites are more likely to officially support chrome[00:29:28] <DraX> than some-random-webkit browser[00:29:39] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[00:30:06] <Kokito> hi petterhj[00:30:25] *** PathagenX has joined #haiku[00:30:30] <petterhj-> hehe, sure, but if Haiku is to be at use at all, we surely have to make use of it's features..[00:30:38] <petterhj-> Kokito: hi :)[00:31:22] <DraX> sure but we still want chrome and firefox even if the native browser is way better/faster/etc[00:31:31] <DraX> if only for web developers that want to use haiku as their main os :)[00:31:52] <petterhj-> Kokito: http://dev.hug-nordic.org/haikuart/art.php?id=9 - thoughts?[00:32:30] * Kokito opens URL in Web+[00:32:38] *** Andrius has quit IRC[00:32:47] <petterhj-> DraX; you know, in an ideal world, everyone follows standards. no need for firefox in that case. even if you are a web developer[00:33:04] <DraX> petterhj-: yes, where is this ideal world?[00:33:10] <DraX> petterhj-: i'd love to visit, it must be nice[00:33:22] <Kokito> petterhj-, looks super cool![00:33:33] <petterhj-> in my mind probably. were all friends and follow web standards :)[00:34:11][00:34:25] <Kokito> cool :)[00:35:36] <petterhj-> Kokito: I hope that it could be useful to haiku artist at all.. if not it would be useless (if not for just presenting Haiku art)..[00:36:06] <largo> petterhj-: that gets my stamp of approval (the latest disk usage icon)[00:36:41] <Kokito> petterhj-, I think it is a good think to have a centralized place for artwork[00:37:38] <Kokito> petterhj-, I have been thinking a bit about a common menu for Haiku sites with links pointing back to the main website, Trac, etc.[00:37:53] <petterhj-> Kokito: yea, sure, but if this is to work it needs to be useful to the artists.. but it needs a lot of work still[00:38:44] <Kokito> well, take your time. the worst that can happen is that somebody else comes along and finished something before you :)[00:39:10] <petterhj-> Kokito: that would be great.. i've noticed that the "haiku files" link on haiku-os.org links to /downloads, but mine links to haiku-files.. it should be consistent..[00:39:48] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[00:40:07] <Kokito> petterhj-, about the common menu, this is what I have come up with so far: http://ja-test.haikuzone.net (upper left corner). not sure I am 100% happy with it, but it´s a start. thoughts?[00:42:17] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[00:43:19] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[00:43:25] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:44:42] <petterhj-> I like it. it would be nice to share a common header across sites (if similar design), the logo and the common menu.. it could at least be useful, if at all feasible.. about your common (drop down) menu: what about adding a small 16x16 favicon beside each link?[00:45:37] <petterhj-> what's great about your drop down menu is that it could be added to any haiku related page, hugs and whatnot..[00:45:54] <Kokito> that's the idea :)[00:46:04] <Kokito> I like the favicon idea too[00:46:32] <petterhj-> I would gladly add it to hug-nordic, but it would be nice if it was possible to somehow "share" it between sites, so that if it was updated one place (centrally), it would be updated everywhere..[00:47:29] *** PasNox has quit IRC[00:47:31] <Kokito> hmmm... that´s interesting indeed[00:47:53] <Kokito> but I am not sure all site may want to share exactly the same links[00:48:00] <Kokito> gotta give some thought to that[00:49:08] <petterhj-> I think that the drop down could easily be added to any design without much problems, even if not "centrally" shared..[00:49:46] *** stippi has quit IRC[00:50:18] <Kokito> yes, petterhj-, it is very simple code[00:53:42] <petterhj-> maybe name the links "Haiku Files", ..., and so on, instead of using the URI? if we also decide upon a single (HVIF) favicon for each page, it would be easier to integrate that in any way on any page.. for instance i like the feather for haiku-os.org, the "Installer" icon for files, and the "WonderBursh" crayons for artwork..[00:54:21] *** wildur has quit IRC[00:56:04] <Kokito> that may indeed work petterhj-[00:56:07] <Skipp_OSX> I think the Vision Icon needs work =P[00:56:25] <Skipp_OSX> It is kind of funny though[00:57:54] <petterhj-> Skipp_OSX; it clearly indicates "People" chatting with eachother? ;)[00:59:44] <petterhj-> it's funny how these, http://pcdesktops.emuunlim.com/pictures/icons/beos_5.gif, give me a feeling of nostalgia.. it's been over 10 years since I first tried out BeOS :)[01:01:32] *** cpr420 has joined #haiku[01:02:03] <Kokito> petterhj-, you are getting old :P[01:03:42] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[01:04:27] <petterhj-> we're all getting old, maybe too fast, in these times :)[01:04:30] <Skipp_OSX> petterhj-, although some artistic person could take the vision icon and add smilees to the bubbles[01:06:47] <OmniMancer> :P[01:09:06] *** markos_ has quit IRC[01:13:16] <Skipp_OSX> Those icons resemble icons you might see on Windows 98 to me[01:14:52] <petterhj-> they still look nice though.. but I like the isometric style. Transport Tycoon, Roller Coaster Tycoon.. :)[01:15:19] <petterhj-> (we need an updated OTTD by the way)[01:17:40] <OmniMancer> Skipp_OSX: perhaps the problem is not with the icons but instead with those putting the expectations on the icons?[01:31:11] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[01:34:01] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[01:39:03] *** OlaHughson has quit IRC[01:42:12] *** E-WolfShade has joined #haiku[01:42:19] *** Kroki has quit IRC[01:42:27] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[01:46:57] *** PathagenX has quit IRC[01:56:08] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[02:01:02] *** Disreali_ is now known as Disreali[02:01:50] <Disreali> you there, mmadia ?[02:02:00] <mmadia42> yup[02:02:26] <JonathanThompson> No, he's here! :D[02:03:17] * mmadia42 screams while in transport[02:03:53] <Disreali> mmadia, would it be benficial to have comments linked to open tickets on the FutureHaikuVersions page?[02:03:56] * JonathanThompson muffles it with an mmadia42 muffler[02:04:15] <mmadia42> Disreali : what do you mean?[02:05:01] <Disreali> unschedualed comment 12. there is an open ticket about it[02:05:13] <Disreali> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/1907[02:08:52] <mmadia42> done. i added that haiku-development thread too.[02:09:21] <Disreali> ok[02:11:03] <AlienSoldier> what is the place to browse ticket? i can't seem to find a list of all of them[02:11:15] *** triplez has quit IRC[02:12:13] <Disreali> mmadia42, just curious, are dev's the only ones withpermission to create wiki pages on trac?[02:12:17] <mmadia42> dev.haiku-os.org, "View Tickets" and then do a Custom Query AlienSoldier.[02:13:09] <mmadia42> For the most part, yes. Each language's translation manager also has write permission.[02:13:34] <AlienSoldier> ha, i looked there 2 time and did not saw "view ticket", lilly me[02:13:42] <AlienSoldier> *silly[02:18:06] * JonathanThompson gilds AlienSoldier's lilly[02:18:25] <E-WolfShade> o_o[02:19:30] <AlienSoldier> LOT more ticket than i expected[02:23:55] *** Disreali_ has joined #haiku[02:27:00] *** Disreali has quit IRC[02:34:30] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[02:36:43] *** bjl- has quit IRC[02:38:38] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[02:38:43] *** oco has quit IRC[02:47:23] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[02:58:41] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[03:07:08] *** triplez has joined #haiku[03:07:46] *** E-WolfShade has quit IRC[03:14:28] <AlienSoldier> mmadia42 i reverted to 718 and it does not restart at boot. That said i used the gcc4 hybrid, is there anything much different between the 2 hybrid?[03:15:00] <mmadia42> one uses gcc4 to compile Haiku, the other gcc2.[03:15:55] <mmadia42> lemme find the text in echelog.[03:16:48] *** orbframe has joined #haiku[03:17:14] <mmadia42> does 718 gcc2hybrid reboot on start?[03:19:36] *** Geoz has quit IRC[03:20:54] <AlienSoldier> mmadia42 no, but the one after this does[03:21:43] <AlienSoldier> ho, the hybrid gcc2 i don't know, i got that hitch to try gcc4 to see if it was related[03:22:53] <mmadia42> that being 35731?[03:23:00] *** judgen has quit IRC[03:23:01] <AlienSoldier> yes[03:23:12] <AlienSoldier> so it's something between the 2[03:23:19] <mmadia42> maybe http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/35726[03:24:22] <mmadia42> maybe 35728[03:25:25] <AlienSoldier> possible, it sure look like something really early, no icon light at all[03:25:38] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[03:42:53] *** senryu has joined #haiku[03:45:46] *** Disreali_ has quit IRC[03:48:51] <DDevine> Hey, what's the newest version of Wine in Fedora (or rpmfusion?)[03:49:06] *** The123king has quit IRC[03:49:24] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[03:49:35] <DDevine> oops wrong channel[03:50:27] <Kokito> DDevine deserves to be troutslapped :P[03:50:46] * orbframe slaps DDevine in the face[03:50:54] <orbframe> with a trout[03:51:17] * AlienSoldier bodysnatcher pointing DDevine[03:53:13] *** DDevine has quit IRC[03:54:10] <orbframe> the /slap command on this program doesn't mess around[03:54:15] * orbframe slaps orbframe around with a fresh trout[03:54:21] <orbframe> ahh... /trout for that[03:54:26] <orbframe> stupid....[03:54:48] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC[03:57:23] <AlienSoldier> mmadia42 unrelated to the ggc version, the gcc2 hybrid boot also[04:10:45] *** surrounder has quit IRC[04:13:15] <OmniMancer> is there any way to get the whole environment that is passed in char **envp; to main at some arbitrary point in time?[04:14:23] *** triplez has quit IRC[04:15:34] <JonathanThompson> Have you looked at getenv() OmniMancer ?[04:16:12] <OmniMancer> getenv is fine if one knows the name of the var but what if one wants all vars?[04:17:23] <JonathanThompson> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap08.html[04:17:25] <jmayfield_> brute forcehack getenv()..maybe start with dictionary words..[04:17:33] <JonathanThompson> I think you just have to parse it all.[04:17:51] *** triplez has joined #haiku[04:19:41] <OmniMancer> parsing is fine[04:19:54] <OmniMancer> I am more worried about env vars changing during execution...[04:20:14] <JonathanThompson> Having read that page, nothing states that one way or the other.[04:20:23] * Dean_C is idle: BRB[04:20:35] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[04:20:38] <JonathanThompson> I think you have to assume that they can change, and make a copy at the start of main.[04:21:04] <OmniMancer> sigh[04:21:28] *** orbframe has quit IRC[04:21:37] <OmniMancer> if you give main a third param of type char ** you can get a list at the start of main[04:21:55] <OmniMancer> I want to be able to get the current set after they may have changed...[04:22:16] <JonathanThompson> I know of nothing that can help you there.[04:22:55] <JonathanThompson> I'd like to think that the only time they can change is via the process that creates another process passing on their environment to the new process.[04:23:15] <JonathanThompson> In other words: if the current process doesn't change the environment, it won't have changed.[04:23:17] <OmniMancer> okay :([04:23:32] <jmayfield_> willn't[04:23:35] <OmniMancer> but that means you can't change PATH and have it update[04:23:47] <OmniMancer> but that is actually expected in a way[04:23:58] <JonathanThompson> I'd suggest you make tests to verify.[04:24:13] <OmniMancer> I shall at some point[04:24:55] <OmniMancer> someone needs to make a standard for a centralised environment...[04:24:57] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[04:25:27] * JonathanThompson snickers out loud "Windows Registry!" and ducks[04:27:34] * OmniMancer said STANDARD![04:28:01] <AlienSoldier> web+ is swell, just etsted it for the first time[04:28:08] <AlienSoldier> *tested[04:49:06] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[05:02:38] *** Kokito has quit IRC[05:06:12] *** mmadia42 has quit IRC[05:14:31] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[05:15:33] <CIA-50> leavengood * r35768 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/datatranslations/ (DataTranslationsWindow.cpp Jamfile):[05:15:33] <CIA-50> Apply an old patch from Maxime Simon to make Data Translations use the[05:15:33] <CIA-50> ALM Layout so that it is font sensitive and that translator config[05:15:33] <CIA-50> views can also use the Layout API.[05:15:33] <CIA-50> Fixes #3789.[05:21:38] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[05:28:20] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[05:37:33] *** bjl- has joined #haiku[05:37:44] <bradct> is there a reason why the haiku bootmanager screen doesnt show up when i goot... my screen just turns off, then turns back on after haiku finishes booting[05:40:46] <Kokito> dp you multiboot bradct_[05:40:48] <Kokito> ?[05:42:43] <CIA-50> leavengood * r35769 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/translators/ (25 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed)[05:42:43] <CIA-50> Apply patch from Maxime Simon to make several translators use the Layout API.[05:42:43] <CIA-50> There are a few small changes from myself, such as adding a copyright for[05:42:43] <CIA-50> Maxime in files with bigger changes. Also because this patch was so old I had[05:42:43] <CIA-50> to do some manual patching, and added back the title and description on the TGA[05:42:43] <CIA-50> and TIFF translators.[05:42:44] <CIA-50> I think this improves things a lot, though there is still some work to do to[05:48:44] <bradct> no multiboot, haiku has entire HDD[05:49:19] <Kokito> in that case, there is no boot manager installed bradct, so there is nothing to show[05:50:31] <Kokito> ok, gotta go. bbl[05:50:34] *** Kokito has quit IRC[05:56:53] *** cpr420 has quit IRC[06:00:27] *** jdanna has left #haiku[06:11:21] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[06:13:01] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[06:13:20] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[06:13:32] *** triplez has quit IRC[06:14:30] *** triplez has joined #haiku[06:14:41] *** mmadia has quit IRC[06:17:53] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[06:30:16] *** kitallis has joined #haiku[06:33:21] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[06:36:28] *** triplez has quit IRC[06:37:44] *** PathagenX has joined #haiku[07:01:20] *** PathagenX has quit IRC[07:04:55] *** mmadia has quit IRC[07:08:12] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[07:08:13] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[07:10:00] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[07:11:49] *** Nozy has quit IRC[07:24:58] *** mmadia has quit IRC[07:34:52] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[07:40:25] *** sprma has joined #haiku[07:59:09] *** sprma has quit IRC[08:01:26] *** mmadia has quit IRC[08:16:52] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[08:28:57] *** bradct has quit IRC[08:29:34] *** PathagenX has joined #haiku[08:34:07] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[09:00:52] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[09:08:40] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[09:17:28] *** Kokito has quit IRC[09:19:57] *** kitallis has quit IRC[09:24:23] *** fhein has joined #haiku[09:26:55] *** triplez has joined #haiku[09:58:44] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[10:00:43] *** |Qeos| has quit IRC[10:09:14] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[10:50:59] *** petterhj- has joined #haiku[10:53:29] *** stippi has joined #haiku[10:53:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[10:57:29] *** Kernel86_ has quit IRC[10:59:37] *** kallisti5 has quit IRC[10:59:40] *** kallisti5 has joined #haiku[10:59:50] <MrSunshine> feels like linux is a bit "elitist" for me even tho ive used it for so many years[11:00:01] <MrSunshine> application developers thinking is stupid[11:00:09] <MrSunshine> "this is linux all hail and write in term!"[11:00:33] <MrSunshine> not "lets make this commonly used feature a button in the gui so its easy accessed without 20 command line options with alot of parameters"[11:01:11] <MrSunshine> "perferebly you will have ot set up a ssl layer to connect throught from another computer to be able to tell me what to do also!"[11:01:13] <MrSunshine> :P[11:01:28] <MrSunshine> "hell lets overcomplicate EVERYTHING"[11:01:29] <MrSunshine> =)[11:02:48] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[11:03:22] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[11:05:28] *** firc has joined #haiku[11:14:48] *** saivert has quit IRC[11:18:05] *** saivert has joined #haiku[11:20:25] *** wildur has joined #haiku[11:20:57] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[11:20:59] *** Qeos has joined #haiku[11:25:36] <markos_> MrSunshine: haiku will make a sudden revolution they won't know what hit them, it just needs to gain critical mass[11:29:44] <MrSunshine> mm =)[11:36:29] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[11:37:10] *** Dean_C has quit IRC[11:48:33] *** l3thal has joined #haiku[11:49:48] * largo gives MrSunshine a high five. ^5[11:53:45] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[11:56:39] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[11:58:38] *** J-Ho has joined #haiku[12:00:52] *** e-jones has joined #haiku[12:02:53] *** H_MrSun has joined #haiku[12:03:13] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[12:06:50] *** hdanak_mbp has joined #haiku[12:07:35] *** petterhj- has joined #haiku[12:08:21] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[12:11:48] *** hdanak_mbp has quit IRC[12:12:14] *** hdanak_mbp has joined #haiku[12:13:18] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[12:16:00] *** hdanak has quit IRC[12:16:19] *** hdanak_mbp has quit IRC[12:17:05] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[12:17:53] *** hdanak has quit IRC[12:18:42] <H_MrSun> web+ seems to work quite nicley[12:18:51] <H_MrSun> but it crashes in javascript core on facebook[12:19:06] <H_MrSun> but running javascripts on the site i do for my sister it works =) (mootools)[12:19:29] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[12:19:41] <H_MrSun> hmm, how to build a hybrid build in haiku ?[12:19:48] <H_MrSun> do i need to get the buildtools anyhow? :)[12:20:08] <kirilla> well, if you want to build.. ;)[12:20:21] <H_MrSun> yes i want to build haiku from within haiku :)[12:20:26] <H_MrSun> and i need a gcc2/gcc4 hybrid[12:20:35] *** firc has quit IRC[12:20:41] *** genkie has joined #haiku[12:20:43] <kirilla> you need to check out the buildtools and the haiku source trunk[12:21:02] <H_MrSun> mm, got the source trunk :)[12:21:25] <kirilla> you then have to configure the buildtools twice - two separate folders[12:21:33] <kirilla> there's got to be a guide about it somewhere[12:21:51] *** l3thal has quit IRC[12:21:52] <H_MrSun> mm, just like in linux then :)[12:21:55] <H_MrSun> then its no biggy[12:22:04] <H_MrSun> i was thinking if it used the native gcc compiler or something in haiku[12:22:53] <H_MrSun> btw, know anything about the state of acpi atm? :)[12:22:58] <kirilla> I think at least one of the gcc would have to be a cross-compiler, even on a hybrib host[12:23:00] <H_MrSun> would be nice with fan control and speed steps[12:23:29] <kirilla> dunno much about those[12:23:52] <kirilla> have merely tested that Haiku doesn't crash on enabling ACPI on my current two PCs[12:24:18] <H_MrSun> k, gonna test it =)[12:24:23] <H_MrSun> just for the heck of it :9[12:24:29] <H_MrSun> nothing important on this computer anyhow[12:26:01] <H_MrSun> brb =)[12:26:03] *** H_MrSun has quit IRC[12:26:05] <kirilla> I'm guessing that enabling ACPI allows ACPI routines (embedded in the BIOS?) to control the fans even with the OS on top, but I could be wrong[12:26:27] *** genkie has quit IRC[12:29:48] <OmniMancer> or perhaps it lets them all turn off and overheat everything :P[12:30:00] <MrSunshine> hehe :P[12:31:01] <MrSunshine> doesnt look like acpi works :/[12:34:18] *** H_MrSun has joined #haiku[12:35:19] *** e-jones has quit IRC[12:39:26] <CIA-50> stippi * r295 /webkit/trunk/WebKit/haiku/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)[12:39:26] <CIA-50> * Use a different deletion strategy for the BWebView. Since the BWebPage will[12:39:26] <CIA-50> delete itself in the application thread, we cannot delete the BWebView before[12:39:26] <CIA-50> this happens in the window thread. Now BWebPage is repsonsible for deleting[12:39:26] <CIA-50> the view.[12:39:27] <CIA-50> * Also make sure that there are not still loaders running on the frame. Since[12:39:28] <CIA-50> the timer messages arrive in a different handler than the BWebPage handler,[12:44:49] *** l3thal has joined #haiku[12:45:18] *** PathagenX has quit IRC[12:57:51] *** kirilla has quit IRC[12:58:12] <H_MrSun> http://paste.cplusplus.se/paste.php?id=11715[12:58:25] <H_MrSun> get that when trying to compile gcc4 for cross compiling or wahtedver under haiku :)[12:58:31] <H_MrSun> anyone here that has done hybrid builds under haiku ?=[13:00:11] <H_MrSun> oh seems to be no need to build the tools :P[13:05:27] <H_MrSun> and so the build cycle begins =)[13:07:41] <OmniMancer> you don't have to build them for cross compiling atleast :P[13:12:03] *** Ola has joined #haiku[13:12:32] *** Ola is now known as Guest39933[13:12:39] *** Guest39933 is now known as OlaHughson[13:24:20] *** vision2 has joined #haiku[13:25:00] *** vision2 has quit IRC[13:27:33] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[13:27:54] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[13:30:15] *** wildur has quit IRC[13:30:50] *** wildur has joined #haiku[13:30:58] *** Mixer has quit IRC[13:31:46] *** kirilla has quit IRC[13:40:36] *** leszek has joined #haiku[13:40:51] <leszek> hi[13:42:50] <OlaHughson> hej[13:48:34] *** petterhj-_ has joined #haiku[13:50:21] *** Auronandace has joined #haiku[13:51:07] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[13:51:11] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[13:53:17] *** korli has joined #haiku[13:53:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[13:57:05] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[13:59:46] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[14:01:11] *** wildur has quit IRC[14:01:59] *** Kroki has joined #haiku[14:12:19] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[14:16:09] <H_MrSun> yeey haiku built and all files downloaded ok except BeZilla that i had to redownload, crc missmatch[14:26:16] *** J-Ho has quit IRC[14:29:06] *** l3thal has quit IRC[14:29:28] *** H_MrSun has quit IRC[14:29:54] *** l3thal has joined #haiku[14:38:16] <helf|laptop> morning[14:39:15] <Auronandace> afternoon where i am[14:39:26] *** l3thal has quit IRC[14:39:28] <helf|laptop> :)[14:39:39] <helf|laptop> 0742 here[14:39:58] <Auronandace> 1342 here[14:40:21] <helf|laptop> quite aways off from me, then[14:40:33] <Auronandace> uk[14:43:18] *** Vooshy has joined #haiku[14:44:34] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[14:44:47] <CIA-50> axeld * r35770 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/ (4 files in 2 dirs):[14:44:47] <CIA-50> * checkfs is now working again; I couldn't test my earlier changes because I had[14:44:47] <CIA-50> no time left, but I didn't want to lose them either.[14:44:47] <CIA-50> * This fixes bug #5536, sorry for the inconvenience.[14:51:30] *** l3thal has joined #haiku[14:52:28] *** surrounder has quit IRC[14:54:34] *** surrounder has joined #haiku[14:56:31] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[14:57:18] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[15:01:58] *** largo has quit IRC[15:07:42] *** Auronandace has quit IRC[15:13:40] *** LinuxKeitaro has quit IRC[15:17:34] *** leszek has quit IRC[15:18:57] *** Auronandace has joined #haiku[15:19:02] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[15:19:18] *** PacoLinux has quit IRC[15:23:12] *** petterhj-__ has joined #haiku[15:24:21] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[15:25:42] <Auronandace> anyone using haiku on a thinkpad?[15:25:50] <Vooshy> yup[15:26:01] <Auronandace> cool, i'm on a t60[15:26:08] *** petterhj-_ has quit IRC[15:26:34] <Vooshy> x41 myself[15:26:57] <Vooshy> i love the keyboards[15:27:08] <Auronandace> does your wireless work in the nightlies[15:27:28] <Auronandace> i heard they include the drivers no, but no encryption[15:27:47] *** korli has quit IRC[15:27:57] <Vooshy> havent tested yet as i would need to turn my encryption off[15:28:20] <Vooshy> but should work, just have remember to install the firmware[15:28:54] <Auronandace> do you have to do that manually?[15:29:17] <Vooshy> think mmadia made a script to do it for you[15:29:17] *** largo has joined #haiku[15:30:07] <Auronandace> my wireless gets detected, but the light just blinks[15:30:24] <Vooshy> which card does the t60 come with[15:30:39] <Auronandace> intel3945 i think[15:32:41] *** dakdagi has joined #haiku[15:32:58] <Vooshy> try running "./installwirelessfirmware.sh" in terminal[15:34:03] <Auronandace> ok, i'll just load the nightly, i'm on the alpha at the mo[15:34:15] <Auronandace> hopefully, see you soon[15:34:29] *** Auronandace has quit IRC[15:34:30] <Vooshy> ok[15:37:58] *** largo has quit IRC[15:38:39] <MrSunshine> strange, the haiku image i built in haiku only contains "/boot/trash" :P[15:39:41] <Vooshy> MrSunshine: did it compile okay, or have errors?[15:40:55] *** OlaHughson has quit IRC[15:40:58] *** Auronandace has joined #haiku[15:41:23] <Auronandace> i'm on the nightly now, 2nd march[15:41:36] <Vooshy> good news?[15:41:38] <MrSunshine> Vooshy, compiled ok[15:41:40] <MrSunshine> nothing wrong[15:41:48] <Auronandace> what was the command again?[15:41:50] <MrSunshine> populated image and installed mime database and unmounted fine[15:42:05] <Auronandace> at the mo i'm using the eth[15:42:09] <MrSunshine> Auronandace, ./insta <tab>[15:42:18] <Vooshy> ./installwirelessfirmware.sh[15:43:18] <Auronandace> no such file or directory[15:43:19] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[15:43:57] <MrSunshine> Auronandace, type ./inst<tab>[15:44:02] <Auronandace> do i need to navigate to a certain directory firs?[15:44:07] <MrSunshine> maybe to Desktop =)[15:45:03] <Vooshy> mmadia: is the intel3945 supported for wireless at the moment?[15:45:18] <mmadia> yes, Vooshy.[15:45:25] <Auronandace> same thing[15:45:58] <Auronandace> its picked up in ifconfig[15:46:16] <Vooshy> mmadia: Auronandace has a thinkpad t60 and having trouble connecting[15:47:12] <mmadia> it could be possible that a particular pci id of the intel3945 is troublesome.[15:47:59] <Vooshy> i assumed he hadnt ran your firmware script[15:48:23] <Auronandace> the firmware script doesn't appear to be here[15:48:57] <mmadia> the firmware script is not neede for the 3945[15:48:59] <MrSunshine> Auronandace, how old build ?[15:49:13] <Auronandace> 35718 march 2nd[15:49:41] <mmadia> open /boot/system/data/firmware/iprowifi3945[15:49:53] <mmadia> do you see 3 items?[15:50:14] <Auronandace> yes[15:50:24] *** l3thal__ has joined #haiku[15:50:56] <Auronandace> a licsense a readme and i assume a driver[15:51:07] <mmadia> firmware for the drive.[15:51:27] <mmadia> iirc, wlan doesn't interface with ifconfig yet.[15:51:39] *** l3thal has quit IRC[15:51:48] <Auronandace> it works through the eth?[15:52:39] <mmadia> ...you know, i don't have end-user experience with this part.[15:52:45] <mmadia> :)[15:53:12] <Auronandace> trust me, you got a whole lot more experience than me[15:53:22] <Vooshy> mmadia: sorry just knew you had more than me[15:53:34] <Auronandace> i consider myself an enthusiast, but no programmer[15:54:01] <mmadia> no, no, i just mean i'm not sure what and how it's supposed to work[15:54:33] <mmadia> Auronandace, you could file a dev.haiku-os.org/newticket and include the output of your listdev.[15:54:50] <Auronandace> listdev?[15:55:03] <mmadia> it may take a few days, but eventually colin will get back to you.[15:55:22] <mmadia> it's a cli command to display information about your hardware.[15:55:45] *** josip has joined #haiku[15:56:09] <Auronandace> wow, neat[15:56:19] *** oco has joined #haiku[15:56:30] <josip> Good afternoon everyone, I have some questions about your google summer of code projects. Is it necessary to have previously contributed code to haiku?[15:56:42] <Auronandace> would i need to make an account to file a ticket?[15:56:59] *** PacoLinux has joined #haiku[15:57:34] <mmadia> no, josip but we do urge potential students to make contributions -- fixing one or more tickets or some other code contribution.[15:57:44] <mmadia> Auronandace yep.[15:58:59] <Vooshy> mmadia: out of curiosity were there any other projects than stippi's webkit browser submitted to haiku inc?[15:59:23] *** largo has joined #haiku[15:59:46] <mmadia> contract proposals? no, none so far.[16:00:14] *** petterhj-___ has joined #haiku[16:00:20] <mmadia> later in the week, i may send out an encouraging email to haiku-development.[16:02:36] *** petterhj-__ has quit IRC[16:03:10] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[16:10:32] <largo> mmadia: I tried what you said and swapped out the atheroswifi driver with the older one from r35693 (I think that was far enough back?), but I'm still seeing the same problem as with the r35752 (media keeps saying it's switched and dropping the connection).[16:11:06] *** Auronandace has quit IRC[16:11:50] *** Malmis has quit IRC[16:13:35] <mmadia> largo : just to make sure, did you copy the old one from </boot>/system/add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin/ ?[16:14:15] <largo> from /system/add-ons/kernel/drivers/net I believe.[16:14:39] <mmadia> you might've copied the symlink.[16:14:40] *** triplez has quit IRC[16:15:04] <largo> hrm... I didn't think to check that. :/[16:16:51] <largo> I'll go give it another shot.[16:17:14] *** largo has quit IRC[16:17:16] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[16:19:41] *** dakdagi has quit IRC[16:20:19] *** Ola has joined #haiku[16:20:50] *** Barrett has quit IRC[16:20:50] *** Ola is now known as Guest96397[16:21:48] *** l3thal has joined #haiku[16:22:31] *** l3thal__ has quit IRC[16:25:29] *** Malmis has joined #haiku[16:27:16] *** Guest96397 is now known as OlaHughson[16:28:15] *** Mixer has joined #haiku[16:31:13] *** killermouse0 has joined #haiku[16:33:34] *** largo has joined #haiku[16:34:10] <largo> mmadia: same thing (and I copied the right one this time).[16:34:23] <largo> seems like the changes are a little deeper than just that driver.[16:34:47] <largo> I'm going to try out the latest nightly... if that doesn't work I can drop back to the build that "worked".[16:35:00] <mmadia> take a look at http://dev.haiku-os.org/timeline , starting at the last working revision for you.[16:35:15] <mmadia> maybe something will look significant.[16:37:02] * largo looks.[16:38:34] <josip> mmadia: so just to get familiar with the code base is enough[16:39:40] <CIA-50> stippi * r296 /webkit/trunk/WebKit/haiku/API/WebSettings.cpp: Close the icon database properly when shutting down.[16:40:22] *** stippi has quit IRC[16:42:22] *** The123king has joined #haiku[16:42:32] <kirilla> josip: it would increase our confidence in your skills and strengthen your gsoc proposal, if you have already shown yourself willing and able[16:43:03] *** l3thal__ has joined #haiku[16:43:49] <kirilla> having shown that you can indeed fix bugs or implement features in the existing code base, with the existing build infrastructure and tools[16:44:03] *** l3thal has quit IRC[16:44:25] <mmadia> and communicate effectively on the mailing lists/bugtracker/etc[16:45:16] <kirilla> indeed, understanding not just the code but the project/people[16:46:25] <largo> mmadia: http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/35747 <-- that wouldn't change anything outside of the atheroswifi driver file would it?[16:46:27] *** Auronandace has joined #haiku[16:47:04] <largo> because beyond that change, I don't see any other that my limited knowledge would spot as being directly involved.[16:47:36] <mmadia> none that i can see either.[16:48:16] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[16:49:04] <mmadia> going about this a different way, you could try copying the driver from >r35747 into you previously working revision. this'll help indicate if it is indeed the driver.[16:49:14] <largo> I need to figure out how to write raw images to my USB stick... so I don't keep wasting CDRs burning all these nightly builds. :P[16:49:14] <kirilla> bbl[16:49:15] *** kirilla has quit IRC[16:49:31] <mmadia> http://haiku-files.org/guides[16:49:42] <mmadia> eerrrr. haiku-os.org/guides[16:56:59] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[16:59:05] *** kirilla has quit IRC[17:04:12] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[17:04:19] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[17:10:30] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[17:14:54] *** cps1966 has joined #haiku[17:17:08] *** largo has quit IRC[17:25:37] *** petterhj-___ has quit IRC[17:25:53] *** petterhj-___ has joined #haiku[17:26:27] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[17:35:38] *** largo has joined #haiku[17:43:03] *** Kroki has quit IRC[17:43:59] *** largo has quit IRC[17:44:20] *** triplez has joined #haiku[17:49:45] *** leszek has joined #haiku[17:52:06] *** margiolas has joined #haiku[17:52:28] *** l3thal has joined #haiku[17:54:00] *** l3thal__ has quit IRC[17:56:32] <leszek> re[17:57:11] *** l3thal has quit IRC[17:57:45] <leszek> anyone tried poorman with html5 yet ? Its not working as far as I can tell, at least with firefox and ogg. On first load it simply shows no videos. A second load or reload ends in an unending loop[17:59:29] <leszek> the strange thing its working with konqueror somehow. But only with it, any other browser simply shows no videos xD[18:00:32] <Ingenu> magic[18:01:06] <leszek> didn't know that konqueror even support html5 xD[18:01:24] <AlienSoldier> did not know poorman streamed video :P[18:01:54] <leszek> hehe :)[18:02:27] <Ingenu> ^^[18:02:54] <leszek> I replaced it with links for now, firefox should load those *.ogg videolinks and display the video but somehow a very strange behavior. Hmm... perhaps I will test this with Web+ too[18:04:28] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[18:04:41] <leszek> seems not to have html5 support yet[18:04:58] *** The123king1 has joined #haiku[18:05:59] <Ingenu> is html5 even ratified ?[18:05:59] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[18:06:04] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[18:06:41] *** The123king has quit IRC[18:06:52] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[18:06:53] <leszek> html5 is ratified but without the <video> tag, because they couldn't decide which codec to use[18:07:29] <leszek> or lets say the video tag is in , but without codec specification, I think thats actually the status[18:15:54] <MrSunshine> what is checkfs and what does it do ? :)[18:18:07] <DraX> leszek: yeah, video is in, but the codec support is not specified[18:18:16] <DraX> mozilla opted to go theora only[18:18:22] <DraX> apple opted to go h264 only[18:18:29] <DraX> i think chrome does both[18:19:16] <leszek> chrome said they will support both[18:19:22] <leszek> only h264 is running right now[18:19:40] <leszek> MrSunshine: it will check your bfs . The Haiku filesystem[18:20:05] <DraX> audio codec support is similarly bad[18:20:22] <MrSunshine> ahh =)[18:20:32] <MrSunshine> that makes sence :P[18:20:37] <MrSunshine> sense ?[18:21:37] <Ingenu> sense[18:24:14] <leszek> haikuware is down ?[18:24:46] <AlienSoldier> it's up from my side[18:25:03] <AlienSoldier> your luck just hit bottom :P[18:25:34] <leszek> hmm... using opendns here, its showing me that its down, and refuses to load[18:26:48] <DraX> haikuware has messed up dns[18:26:57] <DraX> it never resolves for me at work[18:27:18] <Vooshy> leszek: what you need?[18:28:37] <leszek> bebits is still up :P[18:28:48] <leszek> new qemu[18:29:44] <Vooshy> i had a go at compiling qemu 0.12 other day, but couldnt get it to make[18:30:24] *** vklay has joined #haiku[18:36:47] *** vklay has quit IRC[18:37:04] *** leszek has quit IRC[18:42:47] *** largo has joined #haiku[18:42:50] <largo> FINALLY[18:43:16] <largo> for some reason my BIOS wouldn't boot the USB stick, so I ended up just setting a GRUB entry to choose to boot the stick. :P[18:43:36] <largo> the syslog looks like it used to, so it seems the latest nightly at least doesn't have that new issue.[18:43:52] <largo> so I'll probably go ahead and update my actual install.[18:47:34] *** The_Ringmaster has joined #haiku[18:48:33] <Kokito> QuuckLaunch keeps getting better[18:50:29] <largo> can you install from the raw usb stick version?[18:50:41] <largo> or do I need to burn a cd?[18:51:16] <The_Ringmaster> either way is fine largo[18:51:30] <Kokito> largo, if the USB stick boots, then you should be able to install from it[18:51:46] <largo> is there an install command? :)[18:51:57] <The_Ringmaster> there is an installer application[18:52:01] * largo looks[18:52:07] <The_Ringmaster> and it will give you the choice when booting up[18:52:25] <The_Ringmaster> either to use haiku as a live cd or just install it[18:54:20] <largo> I didn't get that... it just booted right to the desktop for me.[18:54:27] <largo> so I ran the installer and I'm installing now. :)[18:54:43] <The_Ringmaster> did you just download the haiku image?[18:54:43] <largo> (after reinitializing that partition to make sure I'm getting a clean install.)[18:54:58] <largo> a few hours ago.[18:55:09] <The_Ringmaster> are you installing on bare hardware?[18:55:14] <largo> yes.[18:55:32] <largo> onto the hardware from the raw nightly I put on a USB stick.[18:56:27] <The_Ringmaster> should have seen a window that had the keyboard type and language options on it.[18:56:41] *** wildur has joined #haiku[18:56:52] <largo> I know what it looks like. :) I get it all the time with my nightly cd's I've been burning and using.[18:57:01] <largo> I was trying this route to avoid wasting more CDR's.[18:57:03] *** The123king1 has quit IRC[18:57:09] <largo> brb... going to boot the actual install and test it out. :)[18:57:46] <largo> (could it not showing up have something to do with me booting to the usb stick from grub, and not from the bios?)[18:58:00] <The_Ringmaster> maybe[18:58:08] <largo> brb...[18:58:13] <Vooshy> better to boot direct from bios[18:58:24] <largo> Vooshy: I couldn't.[18:58:33] <largo> tried a number of times. no go.[18:58:49] <largo> it would probe the drive... I'd see the lights flash on it... but it wouldn't boot from it.[18:58:56] <The_Ringmaster> I get a missing symbol error when starting bepdf, how do i fix this?[18:59:05] <Vooshy> even after running makebootable on it?[18:59:39] <largo> I didn't run makebootable. :) I didn't see that anywhere in the directions.[18:59:59] <largo> I was trying originally from windows... but that was a nightmare... ended up going into linux and using dd from there.[19:00:29] <Vooshy> run haiku, open terminal with your usb stick in type in makebootable /(Drive Name) e.g. makebootable /Haiku-USB[19:01:18] *** largo has quit IRC[19:04:18] *** largo has joined #haiku[19:04:32] <largo> ok, booted from the hard drive now.[19:04:41] <largo> r35765[19:05:31] <Vooshy> ok[19:07:19] <Vooshy> largo: just updated my nightly myself[19:07:45] <largo> ~> makebootable /Haiku1[19:07:45] <largo> Writing boot code to "/dev/disk/usb/0/0/raw" (partition offset: 0 bytes, start offset = 0) ...[19:07:58] <Vooshy> thats right[19:08:26] <Vooshy> it sets the drive to boot at the start of where haiku is located[19:09:03] <largo> when I unmount a USB stick, am I supposed to get a little file cabinet icon in its place?[19:10:11] <Vooshy> think it happens then disappears, not sure if its meant to[19:10:35] <Vooshy> but does on mine too[19:11:04] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[19:11:42] *** largo has quit IRC[19:13:22] *** largo has joined #haiku[19:15:05] <The_Ringmaster> anything special i have to do to get bepdf working?[19:16:02] <Vooshy> The_Ringmaster: just installing, I will let you know[19:16:18] <The_Ringmaster> I get a missing symbol error[19:16:29] <Vooshy> are you running gcc4?[19:16:39] <The_Ringmaster> ggc2 hybrid[19:16:51] <The_Ringmaster> happened on ggc4 hybrid too[19:17:01] <The_Ringmaster> or something like it[19:17:18] <Vooshy> oh ok, most gcc4 builds have symbol errors on gcc2 apps[19:17:52] <Vooshy> The_Ringmaster: works for me[19:18:06] <The_Ringmaster> what is your build type?[19:18:13] *** largo has quit IRC[19:18:39] <Vooshy> The_Ringmaster: gcc2hybrid, i ran installoptionalpackage -a BePDF[19:18:42] <Vooshy> to install[19:18:59] <The_Ringmaster> from the haiku commandline?[19:19:02] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[19:19:15] <Vooshy> haiku terminal yes[19:19:33] <kirilla> josip: have you seen this page?: http://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas[19:19:39] <The_Ringmaster> didn't know i could do that[19:20:06] <kirilla> josip: anything in particular (on that page or in general) that you're interested in?[19:20:52] <Vooshy> The_Ringmaster: installoptionalpackage -l (displays all optional packages)[19:21:06] <The_Ringmaster> awesome dude, thanks[19:22:09] <kirilla> mmadia: installoptionalpackage -a non-existing fails silently[19:22:18] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[19:24:32] <OmniMancer> kirilla: its not a package manager :P just a hack[19:24:43] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[19:25:03] <kirilla> OmniMancer: I know. A very nice one too.[19:26:49] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[19:27:16] <The_Ringmaster> everything is nice in haiku[19:27:39] <MrSunshine> its like walking on the stars =)[19:27:41] <luroh> considering installoptionalpackage doesn't work at all in the latest nightlies, failing silently would be an improvement[19:28:29] <kirilla> due to sed missing+[19:28:43] <kirilla> ?[19:28:50] <luroh> yes[19:31:04] <The_Ringmaster> yeah i noticed that sed was missing too[19:32:29] *** largo has joined #haiku[19:33:22] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[19:34:30] *** fhein has quit IRC[19:35:20] *** petterhj-___ has quit IRC[19:36:26] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[19:40:26] *** kirilla has quit IRC[19:41:23] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[19:42:26] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[19:43:08] *** Advant- has joined #haiku[19:44:24] *** Advant has quit IRC[19:44:45] <The_Ringmaster> why can't arora go to any google site?[19:46:30] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[19:46:35] *** MegafHaiku has joined #haiku[19:47:48] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[19:52:13] *** Skipp_BeOS has joined #haiku[19:52:17] <Skipp_BeOS> hello[19:52:32] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[19:52:38] *** helf2 has joined #haiku[19:53:00] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[19:53:00] *** helf2 is now known as helf|laptop[19:53:01] <kirilla> I couldn't boot from the latest CD image[19:53:15] <kirilla> r35770 gcc2hybrid[19:53:54] <kirilla> says something about not finding a boot path, and drops into the boot menu[19:54:30] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[19:54:41] <kirilla> a rescan from there finds only the BFS partitions on hd[19:54:58] <mmadia> kirilla : what about the one befor it?[19:55:12] <kirilla> I think it worked. Will test[19:55:16] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[19:55:52] <mmadia> .... r35765 & newer are being built on a different machine[19:56:00] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[19:57:03] <Auronandace> i'm using 35770[19:57:11] <Auronandace> from a usb stick[19:57:26] <Auronandace> gcc4hybrid though[19:58:19] <kirilla> I also had a panic on setting up mtrr. Something message about interrupts being disabled and getting an ipi or some such[19:59:35] <mmadia> that's good.... ingo recently added the ability to panic with mtrr errors[20:00:02] <mmadia> http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/35755 and a good commit message too[20:00:17] <kirilla> heh[20:01:56] <kirilla> that 35770 CD doesn't boot on my trusty old single-core box either[20:02:40] *** The_Ringmaster has quit IRC[20:03:03] *** Skipp_BeOS has quit IRC[20:06:57] *** Ingenu has joined #haiku[20:09:02] *** Ingenu_ has joined #haiku[20:09:18] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[20:12:29] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[20:12:30] *** Ingenu_ is now known as Ingenu[20:15:50] *** kirilla has quit IRC[20:15:58] *** fhein has joined #haiku[20:16:13] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[20:17:43] *** OlaHughson has quit IRC[20:17:55] *** surround1r has joined #haiku[20:20:43] *** surrounder has quit IRC[20:21:03] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[20:21:33] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[20:22:50] *** Kokito-n800 has joined #haiku[20:23:14] <MegafHaiku> It works!! It's alive! /boot/system/apps/QEMU> qemu -m 256 -hda ~/Haiku/haiku-nightly.image[20:23:34] <MegafHaiku> Haiku running on Haiku[20:23:35] <MegafHaiku> xP[20:24:11] <Kokito-n800> hola[20:24:29] <MegafHaiku> hola, que tal?[20:25:23] <Kokito-n800> bien ;)[20:26:07] <MegafHaiku> Kokito-n800, are you spanish?[20:26:55] <Kokito-n800> i am from arg[20:27:39] *** impy has quit IRC[20:27:44] <Skipp_OSX> where is the support kit located?[20:27:51] <Skipp_OSX> in the source I mean?[20:28:07] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[20:28:37] <Skipp_OSX> donde es el kit de support =)[20:29:03] *** Geoz has quit IRC[20:29:58] <Kokito-n800> no se Skipp_OSX ;)[20:30:14] <Skipp_OSX> Kokito-n800: nm, I found it[20:32:21] <MegafHaiku> Kokito-n800, ah, my neighbour :P[20:32:50] *** impy has joined #haiku[20:33:58] <Kokito-n800> MegafHaiku, where from?[20:34:21] <MegafHaiku> Kokito-n800, Brazil[20:34:30] <MegafHaiku> south of brazil[20:34:33] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[20:35:14] <Kokito-n800> i am from arg but live in the us[20:35:21] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[20:35:22] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[20:35:46] <Kokito-n800> rio grande do sul MegafHaiku ?[20:36:21] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[20:36:24] * markos_ remembers debconf 4 in Porto Alegre in 2004, great times :)[20:37:31] <Kokito-n800> u sound like an old man markos_ ;)[20:37:52] <markos_> not old, but old enough to remember good times :)[20:38:01] *** kirilla has quit IRC[20:38:07] <markos_> I was younger then and freer (not married with kids :D[20:38:23] <Auronandace> you're only as old as you feel[20:39:02] <markos_> you may feel 25 but you get back to reality pretty hard when kids call you "sir"[20:39:04] <markos_> :)[20:39:17] <Kokito-n800> lol[20:39:20] <MegafHaiku> Kokito-n800, yep[20:39:31] <Kokito-n800> how true[20:40:00] <Auronandace> it also doesn't help if you have a receeding hairline[20:40:12] <markos_> anyway, i'm not old, "just" 35, AND a receeding hairline :)[20:40:25] <markos_> s/AND/AND I have[20:41:03] <MegafHaiku> brb[20:41:07] *** MegafHaiku has quit IRC[20:43:22] *** Lynton has joined #haiku[20:44:26] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[20:45:57] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[20:47:47] <kirilla> mmadia: I tested the images on haiku-files.org, and the latest working for me was "haiku-nightly-r35752-x86gcc2hybrid-cd"[20:51:05] <luroh> kirilla: r35757 perhaps?[20:51:26] *** margiolas has quit IRC[20:52:16] <mmadia> I hate to ask this, but could you check if a self-built image of either 35770 or 35765 works?[20:53:03] <mmadia> ... or has anyone confirmed that the cd images of r35770, 35765 on HaikuFiles boot?[20:53:31] <mmadia> eh,, i'll burn one real quick[20:54:17] <kirilla> I don't have a proper mkiso-thingie in this old Ubuntu, meaning I can't burn Haiku CDs presently :P[20:54:23] <kirilla> sorry about that[20:54:27] *** petterhj-___ has joined #haiku[20:55:09] <kirilla> fwiw, I tested those gcc2hybrid images of 770 and 765 negative on my two PCs[20:56:00] <kirilla> I usually build to a partition from Linux, and I haven't had any issues with that method[20:58:15] <kirilla> http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/35757[21:01:00] <kirilla> luroh: maybe you're onto something[21:02:14] <luroh> i saw there was a discussion about that rev on haiku-commits[21:04:03] *** petterhj-___ has quit IRC[21:04:05] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[21:05:22] *** raichoo has left #haiku[21:07:00] <kirilla> I wonder if fBlockSize should be set to 0 with the others at http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/xref/src/add-ons/kernel/partitioning_systems/intel/PartitionMap.cpp#299[21:07:47] <kirilla> (meaning, maybe its used uninitialized)[21:08:45] <kirilla> thus comparing $unknown to 0 in stippis change[21:09:39] <kirilla> or perhaps something is supposed to set a meaningful block size prior to the check introduced by stippi[21:12:42] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[21:15:26] <MrSunshine> ffs[21:15:29] <MrSunshine> vfat does not work in haiku[21:15:31] <MrSunshine> not at all[21:15:53] <MrSunshine> every time ive tried to copy something to vfat then over to some other compute ri get "input/output" error on the other computer and most often a kernel panic in haiku[21:16:28] <Ingenu> what's vfat ?[21:16:35] <MrSunshine> or whatever its called[21:16:42] <MrSunshine> the filesystem that reads and writes fat32[21:16:52] <Ingenu> ah ok[21:17:00] <MrSunshine> called vfat in linux =)[21:17:07] <kirilla> I too have had issues with fat lately :P thought it was a botched fs[21:17:23] <MrSunshine> ive refomated this stick several times[21:17:25] <kirilla> for very fat[21:17:33] <MrSunshine> works fine in this computer and cnc computer but not haiku[21:18:51] <MrSunshine> hmm, when building haiku can i specify a directory to copy the files to insted of creating an image ?[21:18:58] <Ingenu> try another release ?[21:19:22] <Ingenu> can mount & read the img[21:19:40] <MrSunshine> ye[21:22:59] <kirilla> wünsch mir glück!.. rebooting to latest rev[21:23:07] *** kirilla has quit IRC[21:29:58] *** 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<blitzkrieg> thats awsome guys hope it works on my laptop been wanting to get into this OS but that held me back[21:38:29] <mmadia> it didn't find a bootable partition ( that machine doesn't have Haiku on it)[21:39:03] <luroh> blitzkrieg: well, in theory it's simple, just run one of the newer revisions (which have the 3945 wifi stuff)[21:39:56] <blitzkrieg> luroh: will do im no stranger to linux driver and kernal stuff so these instructions i should get it in no time[21:41:26] <kirilla> mmadia: so then it's likely not stippi's change that is the problem[21:41:46] <luroh> blitzkrieg: i hope you don't have to struggle too much to get it working. PulkoMandy and I however both ran into problems with IRQ routing on our machines, which Colin sorted out by handing us custom patches he created manually[21:41:53] <kirilla> s/likely/certain[21:41:58] <mmadia> * 35770 didn't find a bootable partition[21:42:16] <mmadia> 35746 is still burning.[21:43:14] <luroh> blitzkrieg: see http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/5511 and http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/5[21:43:37] *** Ola has joined #haiku[21:44:05] *** Ola is now known as Guest43065[21:44:24] *** Guest43065 is now known as OlaHughson[21:45:29] *** kirilla has quit IRC[21:48:39] <blitzkrieg> luroh: thanks for all the info[21:48:47] <blitzkrieg> liking the haiku community already[21:48:57] <luroh> good luck, let us know how it goes :)[21:49:35] <blitzkrieg> you mind letting me what pc make they was cause your IRQ issues could be due to vendor[21:50:05] <PulkoMandy> luroh, I don't think it works for me ...[21:50:19] <luroh> blitzkrieg: mine is a IBM/Lenovo T60[21:50:26] <luroh> PulkoMandy: oh :([21:50:35] <PulkoMandy> mine is Dell Inspiron 1525[21:50:38] <Auronandace> i'm using a t60 too[21:50:39] <blitzkrieg> ok ive got acer so crossing fingers[21:50:47] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[21:51:00] <PulkoMandy> luroh, I'll do more testing... looks like even when booting with noapic and stuff on linux, I still get a somewhat different IRQ mapping[21:51:07] <PulkoMandy> I guess that's because of 64bits[21:51:13] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[21:51:50] <blitzkrieg> well atleast my wired nic works out of the box[21:51:54] <mmadia> 35746 didn't find bootable partitions either .... building 35770 from the old nightly-image machine & building 35752 on the new machine, kirilla[21:52:22] <kirilla> thank you for looking into it, mmadia[21:54:00] <kirilla> curious[21:54:41] <kirilla> any significant difference between the old and the new build machine?[21:54:59] <mmadia> freebsd 8.0 vs 7.2[21:55:16] <mmadia> i3 vs an older single core amd 939,[21:55:51] <mmadia> I'm using a new version of Build-O-Matic to provide the images.[21:55:52] *** hdanak has joined #haiku[21:57:00] <mmadia> ... so it could very well be an issue on my end. i've checked my pre-req software and this is the machine that has been compiling the source & reporting errors for some weeks now.[21:57:19] *** H_MrSun has joined #haiku[21:57:33] <luroh> mmadia: i forget, what's the jam target for building the cd? i can give it a go over here as well[21:57:43] <mmadia> @nightly-cd[21:58:13] <luroh> thanks[21:58:24] <mmadia> and both machines do use jam -q -j1 ...[21:59:18] *** composr has joined #haiku[21:59:41] *** composr has left #haiku[22:00:04] *** xbmc has joined #haiku[22:00:24] *** PathagenX has joined #haiku[22:00:49] *** PauloEstrela has joined #haiku[22:01:54] *** Kokito-n800 has quit IRC[22:05:30] <luroh> well, gcc2 cd r35770 booted in vbox, at least. grabbing a gcc2 one from haiku-files to compare[22:09:01] <blitzkrieg> luroh does the wifi work for you guys with wep too[22:09:15] *** xbmc has quit IRC[22:09:46] <luroh> blitzkrieg: i haven't actually tested with wep, just with open wlan[22:10:09] <blitzkrieg> ok so it may or may not work[22:10:32] <mmadia> ... 35752 @nightly-cd built from the new machine fails to boot :|[22:10:35] <luroh> blitzkrieg: yes, it may be uncharted territory[22:10:55] <blitzkrieg> luroh: i can live with that[22:11:25] <luroh> mmadia: the home-brewed r35770 boots in vbox here, but haiku-files' does not[22:11:50] <mmadia> ... yeah, i'm gonna have to dig into this on my end.[22:12:04] <luroh> 'fraid so :|[22:12:28] <Auronandace> if it helps, i'm running 35770 now[22:12:44] <mmadia> does HaikuFiles's vmware or raw images of 35770 boot?[22:12:47] *** E-WolfShade has joined #haiku[22:13:01] <luroh> grabbing one now...[22:13:03] <Auronandace> i dd'd it in linux to a usb pen[22:13:13] <Auronandace> it boots, and its a raw image[22:14:00] <Auronandace> i got it off haikufiles shortly after it was loaded[22:14:09] <Auronandace> gcc4hybrid[22:14:12] <mmadia> thanks Auronandace.[22:14:19] <Auronandace> no prob[22:14:40] <mmadia> so it may be an issue with the cdrtools that are installed on the new machine.[22:16:26] *** stargater has joined #haiku[22:16:29] <stargater> hi[22:17:03] <kirilla> hi stargater[22:17:24] <stargater> hi kirilla[22:17:31] <Ingenu> pouet[22:18:34] <H_MrSun> freebsd has the most unlogical freakin source tree in the world :/[22:18:41] <kirilla> I can't build my @vmware target any more it seems. Been a while.[22:18:43] <H_MrSun> like where the hell do i find sys/machine/resource.h ?[22:18:45] <H_MrSun> in the tree :([22:20:24] <luroh> mmadia: sounds plausible. fwiw, haiku-files' gcc2 vmware 35770 works too[22:21:49] <idefix_xifedi> H_MrSun: http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/[22:22:39] *** Advant_ has joined #haiku[22:23:18] <H_MrSun> idefix_xifedi, that is HAIKU source[22:23:22] <H_MrSun> im talking about FREEBSD[22:23:38] <H_MrSun> you see, quite a bit of distance between them :P[22:23:47] *** Advant- has quit IRC[22:24:50] <idefix_xifedi> ah sorry, didn't notice you were talking about FreeBSD :)[22:25:04] <mmadia> thanks luroh.[22:25:22] <H_MrSun> but thanks anyways idefix_xifedi =)[22:27:19] <H_MrSun> i give up[22:27:32] <H_MrSun> wont be any freakin wireless for me until someone who knows waht tehy are doing does it[22:27:35] <H_MrSun> nuff said[22:27:38] <H_MrSun> **** this :/[22:28:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmadia[22:28:46] *** GonoszTopi has joined #haiku[22:30:36] <mmadia> ooooh, portupgrade -ray updated sysutils/cdrtools-devel (cdrtools-devel-2.01.01a72,1)[22:33:47] <kirilla> epiphany? :)[22:34:24] *** Kroki has joined #haiku[22:36:27] <mmadia> i deleted the bad cd' images from HaikuFiles. i'm building a new test image with the updated cdrtools now too.[22:40:50] *** genki has joined #haiku[22:45:35] *** Barrett has quit IRC[22:46:32] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[22:48:33] *** composr has joined #haiku[22:49:18] <composr> hi all[22:50:09] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[22:51:36] *** composr has left #haiku[22:51:47] <Ingenu> hey[22:54:11] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:56:08] <stargater> mmadia, cdrtools are ? cdrecord mkisofs ?[22:56:19] <mmadia> yes[22:56:31] <stargater> ah nice this need we for lava[22:57:39] <mmadia> i meant i updated cdrtools on my host machine. not in the Haiku images.[22:58:28] <stargater> oh ok[22:59:45] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:01:15] *** FSX has joined #haiku[23:05:22] <DraX> mmadia: on autotools integration in jam, it's worth noting that freebsd generally rewrites the build system as well[23:05:44] <mmadia> to avoid autotools?[23:05:52] <DraX> yeah[23:06:06] <DraX> bsd.prog.mk is a _lot_ nicer ;)[23:07:02] <mmadia> ah. i haven't looked at that.[23:07:47] <DraX> to get an idea: http://291d7f431c0067b7.paste.se/[23:08:12] <blitzkrieg> luroh: cant get SVN working on haiku to grad the latest any flag in haiku i gotta give svn[23:08:13] *** ianj has quit IRC[23:08:14] <mmadia> can you pastebin bsd.prog.mk ? :)[23:08:26] <DraX> yeah not really[23:08:29] <DraX> it's quite large[23:08:40] <DraX> /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk[23:08:46] <DraX> on pretty much any *bsd system[23:08:49] <mmadia> i'm guessing its some type of makefile engine?[23:09:13] <luroh> blitzkrieg: you can grab a nightly build from here http://haiku-files.org[23:09:23] <DraX> well it's actually written in Make[23:09:24] <DraX> but yes[23:09:28] <DraX> so is ports for that matter[23:09:34] <DraX> written basically entirely in Makefile[23:09:57] <DraX> ports infastructure is 20k lines of Makefile[23:10:04] <mmadia> 'fun'[23:11:24] <DraX> the degree too which the bsds have gotten away with writing all their build infastructure in make always makes me hessitant to believe in these new-fangled build systems[23:11:27] <blitzkrieg> luroh: not seeing it there but ill keep looking[23:12:02] <luroh> blitzkrieg: hm, there are raw, vmware and cd images[23:12:16] *** mmadia has quit IRC[23:12:25] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[23:12:42] <blitzkrieg> oh ive got haiku installed just trying to figure how to get the latest build of the wifi stuff[23:13:16] <luroh> blitzkrieg: ok, so you want to build haiku from haiku?[23:13:53] *** killermouse0 has quit IRC[23:13:57] *** Phoenix_ has joined #haiku[23:14:12] <blitzkrieg> luroh: now i get what you meant by latest build earlier thought you was talking about the latest build of the wifi drivers[23:14:22] *** margiolas has joined #haiku[23:14:23] <luroh> ah, no, sorry :)[23:14:28] <blitzkrieg> grabbing latest cd image now[23:14:45] <blitzkrieg> its easy enough to install the latest[23:14:49] <luroh> yeah[23:14:54] <blitzkrieg> unless there upgrade scrpt or something[23:14:59] <margiolas> hello[23:16:25] <luroh> i *think* you can let loose the installer on your old install, to keep your /home dir intact, but i haven't tried that myself[23:16:31] *** H_MrSun has quit IRC[23:17:48] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[23:18:44] <blitzkrieg> ive got nothing saved to it so i dont care[23:19:38] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:21:40] <blitzkrieg> luroh: thanks for all the help[23:21:55] <luroh> hey np[23:22:40] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[23:25:31] <blitzkrieg> next to see how well it runs on some my crap boxes ha[23:25:44] *** Vooshy has quit IRC[23:29:36] *** josip has quit IRC[23:36:01] <stargater> pfoetchen, around?[23:36:23] <blitzkrieg> luroh: new install going and i just noticed my wifi light is on[23:36:45] <luroh> that must be a good sign[23:36:53] <blitzkrieg> i would say so[23:37:18] <Auronandace> what wifi is it?[23:37:30] <blitzkrieg> intel 3945[23:37:41] <Auronandace> mine is intel3945, and it just blinks[23:38:00] <blitzkrieg> ok[23:38:40] <Auronandace> what does ifconfig bring up for you?[23:39:48] <blitzkrieg> brings up /dev./net.iptowifi3945/0 with mac addy and 169. ip[23:40:29] <Auronandace> same here but for the transmit part it says 2 packets and 7 errors[23:41:26] <pfoetchen> stargater: yep[23:41:48] <stargater> pfoetchen, you are osdrawer admin?[23:42:28] <pfoetchen> no I have nothing to do with osdrawer[23:42:43] <blitzkrieg> auronandace: give me a few im try9ing something out i thikn it would work on open network but i dont wanna open my network up[23:43:09] *** cps1966 has quit IRC[23:44:29] <Auronandace> you could set your router to accept wireless connections from certain mac addys, like a whitelist[23:45:02] <blitzkrieg> done that[23:45:22] <blitzkrieg> but still got to keep wep on some how[23:45:52] <Auronandace> i'm using wep for my wireless too[23:46:40] <Auronandace> i don't think haiku supports any wireless encryption protocols yet[23:47:15] <stargater> pfoetchen, oh sorry then[23:47:22] <pfoetchen> ;)[23:47:40] <stargater> cu -> coding time[23:47:54] *** stargater has quit IRC[23:47:59] <DraX> wep works[23:48:09] <DraX> http://alexbl.net/~alexbl/setwep.c[23:48:21] <Auronandace> sweet[23:48:41] <Auronandace> has those been submitted to the nightlies yet then?[23:48:53] <DraX> no[23:48:58] <DraX> it's not officially supported[23:49:15] <Auronandace> ok[23:49:18] <DraX> but if you futz with that file compile it and run it with a password, wep will probably work[23:49:38] *** PauloEstrela has quit IRC[23:49:39] *** PasNox has quit IRC[23:52:02] <blitzkrieg> OK open Netwrok with MAc Filter and cant even get it running through static ip[23:56:10] *** genki has quit IRC[23:57:04] *** wildur has quit IRC[23:59:21] *** Lynton has quit IRC