November 29, 2009 
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November 29, 2009 [00:05:05] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[00:06:13] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[00:11:32] *** Malmis has quit IRC[00:13:18] *** Logic has joined #haiku[00:13:43] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[00:14:06] *** gtaw has quit IRC[00:20:08] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[00:30:22] *** Logic has quit IRC[00:32:04] *** Animal-X has joined #haiku[00:33:14] *** congocongo has quit IRC[00:33:22] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[00:34:09] *** NetLife has joined #haiku[00:35:23] <NetLife> hello, I have haiku but it don't boot with my nvidia card, only with an old card I had lying around[00:37:32] <eisenawesome> you can either A) boot in safe video mode or D) fix the nvidia driver yourself or C) make a debug log so someone else can fix it[00:37:39] <eisenawesome> er[00:37:47] <eisenawesome> *B)[00:37:50] <helf|laptop> Use VESA[00:38:33] <NetLife> well, I do have a bug open, I was just seeing what people in here thought[00:38:43] <NetLife> how do I use VESA[00:39:09] <helf|laptop> uuuum :)[00:39:22] <helf|laptop> is it a boot option[00:39:42] <NetLife> ok[00:40:08] <helf|laptop> +?[00:40:13] <helf|laptop> idont remember, honestly[00:40:21] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[00:42:07] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[00:42:24] <NetLife> when it's booting, what does the leaf icon represent?[00:43:35] *** manvich has joined #haiku[00:43:46] *** manvich has quit IRC[00:45:07] <Nozy> I think boot need a timer say booting (press space to stop ) 5 4 3 2 1 .....[00:45:07] <helf|laptop> the one with the disk and the leaf?[00:45:07] <helf|laptop> "Disks: All boot drivers and modules have been initialized."[00:45:17] <helf|laptop> Nozy, you can give bootman a delay[00:45:26] <helf|laptop> 5,10,15,30 econds or wait forever iirc[00:45:38] <Nozy> cool[00:45:38] <helf|laptop> *seconds[00:45:43] <Nozy> but of the cd[00:46:35] <Nozy> the hp I have by the time the screen come out it was to late ( may be just for the live does show it )[00:46:51] <NetLife> that's where it gives the panic at the leaf and the disk[00:47:25] <helf|laptop> it shows that one then panics?[00:47:49] *** Xeon3D has quit IRC[00:47:53] * helf|laptop is no good for trouble shooting haiku[00:47:53] <NetLife> yes[00:47:58] *** Xeon3D has joined #haiku[00:50:26] <NetLife> when I boot with the option to output message to the screen it says usb error[00:50:52] <NetLife> but it boots fine with a different video card[00:51:06] <NetLife> and I'm booting off of a usb flash drive[00:52:14] <NetLife> oh well[00:53:46] *** sundaymorning has quit IRC[00:59:31] *** sundaymorning has joined #haiku[01:01:59] <sundaymorning> what is this tracker application?[01:02:16] <eisenawesome> tracker is the file manager[01:02:33] <umccullough> and the desktop shell[01:02:38] <eisenawesome> yeah[01:02:40] * JonathanThompson wonders if sundaymorning is easy[01:03:09] <sundaymorning> very easy :-)[01:03:22] * cpr420 wonders how many people get the reference[01:03:34] <NetLife> i do[01:03:37] <JonathanThompson> Perhaps a pointer needs to be passed :P[01:04:06] * JonathanThompson imagines a new mutation of an ELO song, "Getting to the Pointer"[01:08:26] *** GonoszTopi has quit IRC[01:13:51] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[01:17:35] <Xeon3D> umccullough, : someone mentioned I should speak with a "colin" about some rt25xx driver which worked in BeOS? Do you happen to know how and who is he?[01:17:50] <umccullough> coling[01:18:11] <umccullough> are we talking about wifi?[01:18:16] <Xeon3D> yeah[01:18:25] <umccullough> yeah, he's the one working on the wifi stack right now[01:18:41] <Xeon3D> k, so he's also comes here sometimes, right?[01:18:51] <umccullough> yes, but it's been a while[01:19:00] <umccullough> http://dev.osdrawer.net/projects/haiku-wifi[01:19:09] <umccullough> you'll see him listed there[01:19:25] <umccullough> will take you to his email[01:20:52] <Xeon3D> many thanks![01:21:15] <Xeon3D> umccullough, is there anyway a poor bastard who can't code (even if my life depended on it) can help?[01:21:23] <umccullough> sure :)[01:21:40] <umccullough> but we'll have to save that discussion for another time, i must leave again[01:21:49] <Xeon3D> kk urias, np. :)[01:21:54] <Xeon3D> many thanks for your prompt answers.[01:21:59] <umccullough> np[01:23:32] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[01:28:29] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[01:31:34] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[01:33:12] * Xeon3D just got Firefox 3.0a working under haiku :D[01:33:26] <eisenawesome> seriously?[01:33:27] <eisenawesome> how[01:33:35] <Nozy> Nice[01:33:38] <CIA-7> augiedoggie * r548 /haikuporter/trunk/haikuporter_bash_completion: Adding a basic bash completion script for use by lazy people such as myself.[01:33:47] <eisenawesome> I was under the impression that that involved porting cairo[01:34:44] *** ari-free has joined #haiku[01:37:27] <Xeon3D> http://yfrog.com/1xscreenshot1kyp for the screenie[01:38:32] <eisenawesome> doesn't explain how you did it[01:38:41] *** Malmis has joined #Haiku[01:38:42] <Xeon3D> sec[01:38:46] <Xeon3D> finding the link again[01:40:00] <mmadia> there was a period of 3.0 that did build on BeOS... shortly before Cairo became mandatory.[01:40:02] <Xeon3D> http://www.bebits.com/bob/20363/firefox-3.0a1.en-US.beosBONE-i586-20061105-patched.zip[01:40:29] <mmadia> *period of time where 3.0[01:41:01] <eisenawesome> ah[01:41:02] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[01:41:28] <DraX> wasn't there some beos support in cairo?[01:41:49] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[01:42:13] <eisenawesome> http://lists.cairographics.org/archives/cairo-bugs/2009-January/002880.html << what about this?[01:42:17] <mmadia> way back when, there was some initial support, but nothing completely functional. overtime it became totally broken.[01:42:18] <eisenawesome> has anyone tried it?[01:42:26] <DraX> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/cairo/tree/src/cairo-beos-surface.cpp[01:42:51] <mmadia> being able to compile something is not the same as having a functional port.[01:43:04] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[01:43:07] <DraX> indeed[01:43:17] <DraX> do we have any sense of what works/doesn't?[01:43:23] <mmadia> for example, if i comment out enough bits, i can have OOo compiling on Haiku :P[01:43:34] <eisenawesome> :P[01:44:01] <Xeon3D> OOo is slow[01:44:05] <Xeon3D> yuck[01:44:10] * Xeon3D prefers gobe.[01:44:26] <DraX> there was work on cairo as of 2007[01:44:32] <mmadia> umccullough would have a better idea. some months ago he took a stab at it, but it really needs someone capable in C/C++ to implement the Haiku specific drawing methods and such.[01:44:54] <eisenawesome> :/[01:45:44] <Xeon3D> funny, I always see the same names being mentioned all over around here[01:46:08] <mmadia> we're a dedicated bunch... help's always appreciated :D[01:46:36] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[01:46:40] <Xeon3D> I would if I had any pointer how (I can't code, and I'm preety poor)[01:46:59] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[01:46:59] <Xeon3D> I asked before if there was need for a pt_PT translator[01:47:02] <Nozy> ^^^ same[01:47:23] <Xeon3D> I got a shit-load of free time since I'm unemployed.[01:47:33] <Nozy> but I do have a good coder that I'm working on to get him on this too[01:47:54] <Xeon3D> (hence me finally fiddling with BeOS/Zeta/Haiku after 4 or 5 years)[01:50:41] <Nozy> I do like to debug clean code[01:56:57] <Xeon3D> I wish I was able to do that[01:58:03] <Nozy> sure u can[01:58:13] <Nozy> start small[01:58:21] <Nozy> that what guy keep saying[01:58:28] <Nozy> start small[01:59:22] <Xeon3D> I have no notions.[01:59:26] <Xeon3D> to start with[01:59:50] <Xeon3D> even a simple helloworld.c would probably be a hard thing for me.[02:02:24] <eisenawesome> that's like[02:02:27] <eisenawesome> three lines[02:02:39] <eisenawesome> int main() {[02:03:00] <eisenawesome> printf(\nHello World!);[02:03:04] <eisenawesome> return 0 }[02:03:05] *** oco has quit IRC[02:06:00] <Xeon3D> the thing is... I have no idea if that's correct or not... :P[02:06:17] <Xeon3D> C is a bit low levelish for me.[02:06:18] *** manvich has joined #haiku[02:06:33] <eisenawesome> you'd need to include something depending on what platform[02:06:38] *** J-Ho has quit IRC[02:06:59] *** NetLife has quit IRC[02:06:59] <eisenawesome> and I'm not 100% sure if the syntax around printf is right[02:11:21] <Nozy> bbk[02:16:29] <Xeon3D> i looks it could use some " or ' s[02:16:57] *** manvich has quit IRC[02:17:50] *** john_dee has left #haiku[02:19:37] *** phalax has quit IRC[02:19:58] *** phalax has joined #haiku[02:24:12] <eisenawesome> I could look it up but i really can't be arsed[02:27:15] *** spvensko has joined #haiku[02:29:53] *** manvich has joined #haiku[02:36:12] *** Kokito has quit IRC[02:52:38] *** jmayfield__ has joined #haiku[03:05:46] *** gtaw has quit IRC[03:06:07] *** meshway has joined #haiku[03:06:33] *** Colin_Finck_ has joined #haiku[03:08:10] *** saivert has quit IRC[03:09:15] *** Kroki has quit IRC[03:10:11] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[03:13:57] *** saivert has joined #haiku[03:14:13] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[03:15:30] <CIA-7> stpere * r34335 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/Window.cpp: Make BWindow honor the B_NOT_MINIMIZABLE flag. Fixes ticket #4337.[03:17:00] *** gobgob has joined #haiku[03:19:11] <sundaymorning> I'm reading here this bebook. I didn't really get the notion of kits. Is it just an way to organize Be's standard library? In unix you usually have the libc, which gives you access to a bunch of things in the system. Those classes described in bebook would sorta be haiku's libc++?[03:20:42] <DraX> erm[03:20:59] <DraX> the kits are more like the toolkit[03:21:01] <DraX> like qt or gtk[03:21:11] <DraX> (note that qt includes file, process, etc apis)[03:21:12] <sundaymorning> hm, I see[03:21:22] <DraX> and gtk uses glib which includes file, process, etc apis[03:22:00] <stpere> kits in haiku is a set of API around a concept[03:22:01] <DraX> the standard c library is included[03:22:14] <stpere> you have the interface kit, the network kit, the storage kit, etc..[03:22:14] <sundaymorning> If I'd like to see haiku's system calls and such, what should I read?[03:22:18] <DraX> libstdc++[03:22:25] <DraX> sundaymorning: libroot probably[03:22:32] <DraX> libroot is basically libc[03:23:04] *** Nozy has quit IRC[03:23:13] <DraX> stpere: just like qt has modules, and gtk has somethig comperable[03:23:43] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[03:24:17] *** redblue has joined #haiku[03:28:02] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:28:02] <sundaymorning> hm, I see[03:29:28] *** dwarfyperson has joined #haiku[03:39:50] *** Animal-X is now known as Animal-X_aWay[03:40:32] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[03:40:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[03:42:22] *** sundaymorning has quit IRC[03:44:35] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[03:45:09] *** congocongo has joined #haiku[03:46:30] *** eisenawesome has quit IRC[03:48:52] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[03:50:02] *** manvich has quit IRC[03:50:32] *** wildur has quit IRC[03:52:20] <umccullough> DraX, http://ports.haiku-files.org/wiki/x11-libs/cairo/git-master[03:52:39] <umccullough> but i tried again last month and cairo no longer builds...[03:52:46] <umccullough> might just be that the git master is broken[03:52:57] <umccullough> i was unable to figure out git enough to revert back to an older one :P[03:53:10] * umccullough is a git-dummy[03:58:31] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[03:59:42] <DraX> knowing cworth[03:59:49] <DraX> i doubt that git/master was broken[04:00:12] <umccullough> i dunno, i couldn't get it to build on linux either :P[04:00:18] <umccullough> at that time[04:00:27] <DraX> interesting[04:00:36] <umccullough> it had been failing somewhere completely random[04:00:37] *** miqlas has quit IRC[04:00:46] <umccullough> I'll have to try again, i'm sure it was a temporary bustage[04:01:07] <umccullough> but my haiku dev box is... well, nonexistent at the moment[04:01:08] <DraX> seems like for once that the support code is actually nicely seperated[04:01:20] <DraX> so you don't have to run around chsaing where to implement some stupid function[04:01:30] <DraX> so if you know what you're doing it sohuld be easy :D[04:01:55] <umccullough> yeah, the problem i ran into with the beos surface code is that a whole bunch of c wrappers had to be written around Haiku's native c++ API to make it work :([04:02:01] <umccullough> and they're UGLY[04:02:09] <umccullough> many were unimplemented[04:02:19] <umccullough> and i don't have much experience with c/c++ coding to begin with[04:02:37] <DraX> yeah that's probably an issue with bridging beos/haiku with *nix libraries in general[04:02:46] <umccullough> i got it to the point where the test harness was running, and i was getting visual tests[04:02:56] <umccullough> but most of the tests were "failing" for no real reason[04:02:58] <DraX> someday C bindings may be a good idea[04:03:04] <umccullough> possibly related to haiku's AA drawing causing conflicts[04:03:30] <umccullough> or possibly bad colormap conversions[04:03:37] <umccullough> iirc, most of the color modes were faked in[04:03:39] <DraX> did they ``look'' right?[04:03:47] *** spvensko has left #haiku[04:04:50] *** HelfDS has joined #haiku[04:05:06] <HelfDS> hi[04:05:07] <umccullough> well, it was stuff that looked reasonable[04:05:19] <umccullough> but it was running the tests so fast i only had a fraction of a second to see each one :)[04:05:25] <DraX> heh[04:05:39] <umccullough> it was creating and destroying BWindows like mad![04:05:51] <umccullough> i think there was a memory leak too[04:05:52] <DraX> haiku app_server stress test \o/[04:06:05] <umccullough> i think the test harness code had a flaw in it[04:06:44] <umccullough> sometimes the whole shebang would KDL before completing all the tests :([04:06:58] <umccullough> bad news - of course, that was at a time when haiku wasn't exactly stable[04:07:09] <umccullough> which is why i wanted to try it all again ;)[04:07:33] <DraX> yeah[04:07:39] * umccullough gets intrigued again[04:07:43] <DraX> :D[04:07:50] <umccullough> let me see...pick a machine[04:07:54] <umccullough> core 2 duo[04:08:01] <umccullough> amd athlon 3600+[04:08:09] <umccullough> or... acer aspire one atom n270[04:08:10] <DraX> core 2 duo[04:08:11] <umccullough> hmm[04:08:12] <DraX> intel always[04:08:23] <umccullough> yeah, problem is that machine has a shitty ECS board that sometimes flakes on me[04:08:24] *** Colin_Finck_ has quit IRC[04:08:41] <umccullough> but otherwise, it's mostly setup for haiuk testing already...so let's have at it[04:08:43] <umccullough> brb[04:10:33] *** umccullough_c2d has joined #haiku[04:10:42] *** HelfDS has quit IRC[04:10:47] <umccullough_c2d> wow, fast little bugger ;)[04:11:11] <umccullough_c2d> ok, it's running R1/Alpha1 still[04:16:11] *** Geoz has quit IRC[04:17:13] <DraX> umccullough_c2d: it helps that no one has decided that haiku really isn't using eonugh CPU so they'll add some dumb animation on minimize[04:19:17] <umccullough_c2d> ;)[04:19:23] <umccullough_c2d> it really does run very well on the atom[04:19:29] <umccullough_c2d> which is saying a lot[04:19:47] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[04:20:12] <umccullough_c2d> unfortunately, compiling stuff on the atom is pretty painful[04:20:56] <umccullough_c2d> compiling on a c2d is dreamy :D[04:21:10] <umccullough_c2d> btw, i'll try my first attempt with gcc2[04:21:18] <umccullough_c2d> since that's what I used before[04:23:35] <DraX> i keep dreaming for a gcc2 free world *cough*[04:24:09] <umccullough_c2d> yeah, actually i just changed my mind[04:24:29] <umccullough_c2d> i remember now that i had problems with -O2 on gcc2 with cairo[04:24:40] <umccullough_c2d> compile was failing - causing me to have to use -O1 or -O3[04:24:44] <umccullough_c2d> which was stupid[04:25:00] <umccullough_c2d> ff3 will likely require gcc4 anyhow[04:25:08] <DraX> clang is getting there[04:25:16] <DraX> it can parse itself now[04:25:28] <DraX> no, it can parse it's own header files[04:25:33] <umccullough_c2d> have fun with that :)[04:25:58] <umccullough_c2d> aw hell, is haikuports SVN down?[04:26:06] * umccullough_c2d can't see his patch[04:26:32] <umccullough_c2d> oh there we go[04:31:23] <umccullough_c2d> hmm... failing in some mutex code[04:31:28] <umccullough_c2d> yeah, that seems familiar[04:32:46] *** manvich has joined #haiku[04:37:58] <umccullough_c2d> aha![04:38:02] <umccullough_c2d> ok...one issue down[04:44:14] <umccullough_c2d> well, getting further than before at least[04:44:33] <umccullough_c2d> i didn't notice that the beos code had some stupid broken non-pthread mutex implementation[04:44:38] <umccullough_c2d> i just ifdef'd around it[04:44:42] <umccullough_c2d> since haiku has pthreads[04:57:52] *** meshway has left #haiku[04:58:29] *** geist has quit IRC[05:02:32] *** congocongo_ has joined #haiku[05:03:25] *** geist has joined #haiku[05:03:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o geist[05:07:33] <DraX> mmm pthreads[05:12:39] *** gtaw has quit IRC[05:13:07] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[05:13:33] <umccullough_c2d> strange, it almost appears that someone committed partial updates for beos/haiku but not complete ones[05:14:07] <DraX> there have been recent commits to it[05:14:14] <umccullough_c2d> some of my previous patch is no longer necessary, but other parts are[05:14:16] <DraX> like ``i'm doing a mass update, blindly update beos''[05:14:23] <umccullough_c2d> weird[05:14:41] <umccullough_c2d> guess that means whoever it was fixed some of the "left behind" stuff ;)[05:17:47] *** congocongo has quit IRC[05:17:47] *** congocongo_ is now known as congocongo[05:18:42] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[05:28:49] <umccullough_c2d> bit further :)[05:35:14] <DraX> :)[05:39:40] *** gtaw is now known as gtaw_changed[05:39:43] *** gtaw_changed is now known as gtaw[05:42:16] *** lstarnes is now known as sheep[05:51:05] <umccullough_c2d> gah, boilerplate code isn't working for some stupid reason[05:51:13] <umccullough_c2d> meaning i can't get the test harness to compile[05:51:37] <DraX> what's it failing with?[05:51:47] <umccullough_c2d> something odd[05:51:49] <umccullough_c2d> :)[05:51:50] <umccullough_c2d> hang on[05:52:00] <umccullough_c2d> the code constructs used here are funky as shit[05:52:45] <umccullough_c2d> oh, a linking issue[05:53:05] <umccullough_c2d> i've seen this before...[05:53:27] <umccullough_c2d> http://haiku.pastebin.com/d46fba0e6[05:54:05] <umccullough_c2d> _register_beos is supposed to be generated somewhere[05:55:14] <umccullough_c2d> aha, wait a sec[05:55:34] <DraX> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/cairo/tree/boilerplate/make-cairo-boilerplate-constructors.sh[05:55:37] <DraX> generated there[05:56:01] *** fcr has quit IRC[05:57:12] <DraX> looks like cairo-boilerplate-beos.cpp isn't getting passed in?[05:57:38] *** congocongo has quit IRC[05:57:48] <DraX> no[05:57:52] <DraX> looks like it's not getting linked in[05:59:42] <umccullough_c2d> shit, looks like there are some new requirements for tests[05:59:58] <DraX> ahhh[06:00:02] <DraX> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/cairo/tree/boilerplate/Makefile.sources[06:00:06] <DraX> beos boilerplate is commented out[06:00:10] <umccullough_c2d> there's a bunch of surface-specific files in test/ that are missing for beos[06:00:16] <umccullough_c2d> no no, got all that[06:00:20] <umccullough_c2d> :)[06:01:02] <helf|laptop> hi[06:01:22] <umccullough_c2d> tjeu[06:01:40] <umccullough_c2d> they've added some shell scripts that create stubs - succeeding on boilerplate, failing on tests[06:01:51] <umccullough_c2d> apparently due to lack of sources for tests[06:02:54] <umccullough_c2d> k, let's try this[06:07:22] <umccullough_c2d> wow, they really changed this stuff around[06:09:07] *** manvich has quit IRC[06:09:27] <umccullough_c2d> ok, that's more than i can soak up at once :P[06:09:33] <umccullough_c2d> they basically redesigned how tests are run[06:09:45] <umccullough_c2d> in a better way, i might add[06:09:55] <umccullough_c2d> but the old beos surface test code needs to be rearranged[06:10:17] *** manvich has joined #haiku[06:10:18] <helf|laptop> umccullough, talk to yourself much? :)[06:10:51] <helf|laptop> umccullough, did you give me an address to ship that drive to?[06:14:04] <helf|laptop> oh, you did[06:14:10] * helf|laptop puts a sticky note with it on the hdd[06:22:10] <DraX> stickynotes \o/[06:24:15] <helf|laptop> :)[06:24:21] *** sheep is now known as lstarnes[06:36:14] *** HaikuBot has joined #haiku[06:38:13] <DraX> bored[06:40:27] <Nozy> can jam make iso[06:40:56] <Nozy> or is the raw disk a iso ?[06:42:40] *** triplez has quit IRC[06:42:52] <Nozy> jam[06:42:52] <Nozy> Segmentation fault[06:42:57] <Nozy> hmmm[06:42:59] <geist> :([06:45:01] *** judgen has joined #haiku[06:46:21] *** phalax has quit IRC[06:46:42] <judgen> Anyone know where i can find a nice calculator for finding 10 colour divisions between #FFFBB1 and #FFF58F ?[06:47:08] *** phalax has joined #haiku[06:48:53] *** fran has joined #haiku[06:52:30] *** gtaw has quit IRC[06:54:03] *** manvich has quit IRC[06:59:02] *** DDevine has joined #haiku[07:01:46] <DraX> someone is working on LDC?[07:04:45] <helf|laptop> anyone want a google wave invite?[07:09:12] *** devine has joined #haiku[07:10:10] <devine> Sorry, my line keeps dropping out lately. Thankfully I am moving soon and it won't be an issue much longer...[07:13:31] *** Syn- has joined #haiku[07:13:42] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[07:14:51] <helf|laptop> devine, want a google wave invite?[07:15:17] *** devine has quit IRC[07:15:38] *** devine has joined #haiku[07:20:49] *** cpr420 has quit IRC[07:20:56] <DraX> geist: thank you for git.newos.org :)[07:22:32] *** DDevine has quit IRC[07:23:39] <geist> oh heh, you're syncing with that?[07:24:43] <DraX> yes[07:24:50] <DraX> i was going to do a git-svn clone[07:24:52] <geist> well, got it on a 1 minute cron job[07:24:52] <DraX> which'd take a while[07:25:27] <DraX> geist: would be nice if you set the variable in your gitweb.pl that makes it give the git repo url[07:25:28] <DraX> i guessed[07:25:39] <DraX> luckily i was right, but would have been nicer to just c+p[07:26:02] <geist> oh yeah? whats the variable?[07:27:30] <DraX> oh god[07:27:32] <DraX> i hate perl[07:27:35] <geist> me too[07:27:44] <DraX> it's actually not obvious[07:27:53] <DraX> our @git_base_url_list = grep { $_ ne '' } ("");[07:28:00] <DraX> ostensibly that but i have no idea what that does[07:28:16] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[07:28:20] <geist> yeah...[07:28:38] <DraX> it used to be just a normal variable[07:29:01] <DraX> i think that's like split?[07:29:30] <geist> guessed right[07:29:32] <geist> reload[07:29:49] <DraX> awesome thanks[07:30:36] <geist> thanks for pointing it out[07:31:43] * DraX wonders how painful compiling in virtualbox will be[07:32:18] <DraX> ...patience... seems to be the answer[07:34:12] * umccullough_c2d sleeps[07:34:15] *** umccullough_c2d has quit IRC[07:34:22] <DraX> and vfork: out of memory[07:35:26] <umccullough> sounds like you didn't give it enough - you'll want at least 512mb - probably 1gb[07:35:42] <DraX> i gave it 512[07:35:46] <DraX> i thik[07:35:53] <umccullough> jam is a pig[07:36:07] <DraX> Memory size: 512MB[07:36:11] <umccullough> probably requires more than 512 these days because there are more targets[07:36:16] <DraX> i really like virtualbox[07:36:24] <Nozy> its is dam good[07:36:37] <DraX> need to see how windows runs in it[07:36:41] <Nozy> I use it for coding work all the time[07:36:52] <DraX> windows was always too slow on qemu even with kqemu[07:37:15] <umccullough> i thought vbox was based somewhat on kqemu[07:37:15] <Nozy> work on a web server pass it on to my caders does what he need export it back[07:37:39] <DraX> umccullough: kqemu didn't use VT-x[07:37:51] <umccullough> right, that was added[07:38:08] <DraX> and kqemu is actually deprecated now[07:38:10] <DraX> in favor of kvm[07:38:18] <DraX> but freebsd doesn't have kvm..[07:38:23] <DraX> so i figured i'd just switch to vbox[07:38:45] *** jmayfield__ has quit IRC[07:39:53] <umccullough> anyhow, 'night[07:45:56] *** devine has quit IRC[07:46:53] *** impy has quit IRC[07:49:51] *** xvedejas has quit IRC[07:50:23] *** fran has quit IRC[07:50:34] *** triplez has joined #haiku[07:51:21] *** joeyadams has quit IRC[07:55:13] *** Nozy has left #haiku[07:58:16] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[07:58:33] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[08:00:07] *** devine has joined #haiku[08:03:34] <Nozy> how do you work around a Segmentation fault with jam[08:04:02] <DraX> does gdb say anything interesting?[08:06:34] *** triplez has quit IRC[08:06:42] <Nozy> look at it now[08:09:16] <Nozy> ok so I need to compile with debugging 1st[08:13:27] <MrSunshine> jam shouldnt segment fault ... try rebooting haiku ? :)[08:13:37] <MrSunshine> usaly that helps if it has worked before atleast:)[08:16:50] <Nozy> using jam on the mac[08:16:58] <Nozy> and reboot[08:17:02] <Nozy> did not help[08:18:04] <MrSunshine> k[08:18:59] <Nozy> sure it something to do with snow lep[08:36:35] *** The123king has joined #haiku[08:41:02] *** kitallis has joined #haiku[09:08:28] *** |Qeos| has joined #haiku[09:15:46] *** Qeos has quit IRC[09:17:21] *** redblue has quit IRC[09:19:15] *** Xeon3D has quit IRC[09:19:51] *** redblue has joined #haiku[09:24:45] *** Nozy has quit IRC[09:28:32] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[09:29:12] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[09:29:20] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[09:33:35] *** impy has joined #haiku[09:45:59] *** J-Ho has joined #haiku[09:52:01] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[09:57:22] *** Hugenon has joined #haiku[10:00:55] *** judgen has quit IRC[10:05:52] *** J-Ho has quit IRC[10:09:08] *** cnuke has quit IRC[10:15:39] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[10:20:38] <CIA-7> bonefish * r34336 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/malloc/arch-specific.cpp:[10:20:38] <CIA-7> * Some minor cleanup and improved comments.[10:20:38] <CIA-7> * Fixed check in hoardSbrk(): resize_area() was invoked, even if the area was[10:20:38] <CIA-7> already large enough.[10:20:38] <CIA-7> * Increased the initial heap size to 64 pages. Apparently the hoard[10:20:38] <CIA-7> implementation is rather generous and the first malloc() (caused by[10:20:42] <CIA-7> __init_heap()) already required enlarging the area.[10:21:52] *** crash_ has quit IRC[10:25:01] *** LinuxKeitaro has quit IRC[10:34:38] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[10:43:17] *** killermouse0 has joined #haiku[10:51:03] *** Nozy has quit IRC[10:54:34] <CIA-7> bonefish * r34337 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Added recursive lock implementation (an adapted kernel version).[10:57:03] <CIA-7> bonefish * r34338 /haiku/trunk/src/system/runtime_loader/ (Jamfile elf.cpp):[10:57:03] <CIA-7> Use the shared recursive lock implementation instead of the home-grown stuff.[10:57:03] <CIA-7> The shared implementation is benaphore style, saving unnecessary syscalls.[11:01:38] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[11:01:46] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[11:02:10] <Nozy> haha fix jam[11:02:46] <DraX> Pe is kind of annoying[11:03:06] <Nozy> win pe ?[11:03:14] <DraX> Pe == Programmer's Editor[11:03:23] <Nozy> hehehe[11:03:23] <DraX> I just want emacs :([11:03:37] <DraX> i find Pe[11:03:41] <DraX> 's indenting to be.. off[11:03:46] <Nozy> hmmm vi for me[11:04:20] <OmniMancer> emacs indenting can be a bit annoying[11:04:39] <DraX> i find it mostly correct[11:05:13] <DraX> except in js2-mode where it's kind of a mess[11:05:29] <OmniMancer> its alright except when you want a certain thing[11:05:31] <DraX> but js is really hard to indent :)[11:05:38] <DraX> yeah[11:05:46] <DraX> it does a good job if you don't care[11:05:50] <DraX> which i normally don't[11:05:53] <OmniMancer> if I remember right it tries to indent { on the line below a function prototype[11:05:54] * dwarfyperson sits in the corner and hugs nano[11:06:15] <DraX> it's somewhat understanding of your code though[11:06:22] <OmniMancer> where it should leave it because it is a {[11:06:22] <DraX> so if you do it correctly it will pick up on that usually[11:06:44] * DraX expects ret name(param, ...) {[11:06:54] <DraX> though i know ret\n is more common[11:06:59] <DraX> no idea why people like that though[11:07:24] <OmniMancer> it must also know of name(param[, param]*)\n{[11:07:29] *** joshc has joined #haiku[11:08:00] <OmniMancer> depends I sometimes put the { on the same line but have been trying to put them under lately[11:08:08] <OmniMancer> makes it more clear where the block is[11:09:39] *** binaryimpulse has quit IRC[11:09:49] <DraX> i'm also trying to learn std::* at the same time[11:10:23] *** tqh has joined #haiku[11:10:58] <OmniMancer> which part of std::* ?[11:11:27] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[11:11:41] <DraX> std::map and std::string mostly so far[11:11:47] <DraX> and really c++ in general[11:12:19] <OmniMancer> ah[11:14:52] <DraX> working on dns stuff for net_server[11:17:35] <OmniMancer> that reminds me I must update my haiku[11:17:47] <OmniMancer> and try compiling falcon again.[11:17:53] <DraX> falcon?[11:18:18] <OmniMancer> programming language[11:18:40] <DraX> how come?[11:19:15] <OmniMancer> because last I knew the core compiled fine on haiku[11:19:33] <OmniMancer> doesn't on alpha though due to missing llround[11:19:38] <DraX> i've not heard of it[11:19:41] *** urnenfeld has joined #haiku[11:19:45] <OmniMancer> http://falconpl.org[11:21:20] *** genkie has joined #haiku[11:22:16] <DraX> kind of neat[11:22:22] <OmniMancer> yea[11:22:27] <OmniMancer> is interesting[11:31:56] *** killermouse0 has quit IRC[11:32:07] *** killermouse0 has joined #haiku[11:36:13] *** cnuke has joined #haiku[11:42:26] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[11:43:44] <CIA-7> bonefish * r34339 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):[11:43:44] <CIA-7> Added locking primitive lazy_mutex, which has essentially the same behaviour[11:43:44] <CIA-7> as a mutex, but allocates its semaphore lazily. 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I haven't investigated it closer, but the previous[12:17:30] <CIA-7> implementation was even broken -- "strace /bin/true" showed two[12:17:30] <CIA-7> release_sem() calls, but no acquire_sem().[12:21:39] <CIA-7> colin * r34343 /haiku/trunk/src/libs/compat/ (73 files in 3 dirs):[12:21:39] <CIA-7> * Importing r401 of ported wlan stack from osdrawer.net/haiku-wifi.[12:21:39] <CIA-7> This port is based on FreeBSD RELEASE_8_0_0 (r199625) found in Haiku's[12:21:39] <CIA-7> freebsd vendor branch.[12:21:39] <CIA-7> * Added freebsd_wlan directory to the Jamfile in HAIKU_TOP/src/libs/compat/[12:21:41] <CIA-7> so that the stack can be built with jam libfreebsd_wlan.a.[12:21:54] <kitallis> @_@[12:29:09] *** john_dee has joined #haiku[12:30:19] <CIA-7> colin * r34344 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/ (Jamfile wlan/):[12:30:19] <CIA-7> * Adding directory, where all wlan drivers will be put in.[12:30:19] <CIA-7> * Tell jam to recurse into the new directory.[12:38:39] *** sprma has joined #haiku[12:41:27] <CIA-7> colin * r34345 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/wlan/ (208 files in 32 dirs): (log message trimmed)[12:41:27] <CIA-7> * Importing r401 of all compiling drivers from osdrawer.net/haiku-wifi.[12:41:27] <CIA-7> The driver sources are based upon the FreeBSD RELEASE_8_0_0 source as found in[12:41:27] <CIA-7> Haiku's freebsd vendor branch.[12:41:27] <CIA-7> * Currently only the atheros driver is working and can be compiled with[12:41:31] <CIA-7> jam atheros.[12:41:33] <CIA-7> * Every driver contains a Jamfile already, so that the compilation process[12:49:58] <PasNox> hello[12:50:26] *** davep has quit IRC[12:50:48] *** davep has joined #haiku[12:52:57] <Nozy> Hey PasNox[12:59:15] *** ari-free has quit IRC[13:05:49] <CIA-7> axeld * r34346 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/TabView.cpp:[13:05:49] <CIA-7> * TabFrame() did not check if the index was valid. This should fix #5051.[13:05:49] <CIA-7> * Cleanup, removed commented code.[13:07:08] *** totish has joined #haiku[13:11:53] *** sprma has quit IRC[13:14:20] *** judgen has joined #haiku[13:16:24] *** fly-away has joined #haiku[13:17:08] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[13:19:04] *** fly-away has quit IRC[13:22:46] *** judgen has quit IRC[13:23:58] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[13:23:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aldeck[13:25:20] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku[13:40:09] <CIA-7> colin * r34347 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/wlan/atheros/dev/ath/if_ath.c:[13:40:09] <CIA-7> Bringing the source up to par with FreeBSD RELEASE_8_0_0. This one slipped[13:40:09] <CIA-7> somehow through the updating process.[13:41:42] *** helf|laptop has quit IRC[13:42:09] *** Kroki has joined #haiku[14:00:24] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[14:00:37] *** genkie has quit IRC[14:02:39] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[14:04:09] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[14:06:49] *** StiffUpperLip has joined #haiku[14:08:39] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[14:09:20] *** Hugenon is now known as Hugen_[14:14:34] *** DDevine has quit IRC[14:15:31] *** totish has quit IRC[14:26:30] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[14:28:06] *** ari2-free has joined #haiku[14:28:07] *** ghane_ has quit IRC[14:32:12] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[14:35:07] <CIA-7> colin * r34348 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/ (15 files in 5 dirs):[14:35:07] <CIA-7> * Adding driver for Atheros AR8131/AR8132 Gigabit/Fast Ethernet network cards.[14:35:07] <CIA-7> The source is based on the FreeBSD RELEASE_8_0_0 code, found in Haiku's[14:35:07] <CIA-7> freebsd vendor branch.[14:35:07] <CIA-7> This driver enables the network card in my EeePC 1005HA-M, for example.[14:35:10] <CIA-7> To compile it issue "jam atheros813x".[14:35:12] <CIA-7> * Introducing the new build target.[14:36:29] *** killermouse0 has quit IRC[14:42:11] *** Nozy has quit IRC[14:47:16] *** aldeck has quit IRC[14:51:12] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[14:51:24] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[14:55:05] *** impy has quit IRC[14:57:15] *** kitallis is now known as kitallis_[14:57:33] *** kitallis_ is now known as kitallis[14:59:21] *** davep has quit IRC[15:00:59] *** sundaymorning has joined #haiku[15:01:41] <sundaymorning> hello, I have DefineBuildProfile vmware : vmware-image ; in my UserBuildConfig, but if I do jam -q @vmware I get: Build profile vmware not defined.[15:01:43] *** manvich has joined #haiku[15:01:46] <sundaymorning> what am I missing here?[15:02:36] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[15:05:41] *** Xeon3D has joined #haiku[15:05:41] *** ari2-free has quit IRC[15:06:43] <Xeon3D> hello all.[15:07:57] <sundaymorning> hi[15:09:01] <sundaymorning> oh, I copied it to the wrong location[15:09:24] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[15:10:04] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[15:12:00] *** fly-away has joined #haiku[15:20:47] <Xeon3D> hi sundaymorning[15:21:48] *** impy has joined #haiku[15:30:23] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[15:31:07] *** killermouse0 has joined #haiku[15:31:56] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[15:37:43] *** redblue has quit IRC[15:42:44] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[15:44:24] <sundaymorning> hm, I was able to generate a vmdk now, but it seems unbootable, from virtualbox, at least[15:46:25] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[15:52:08] *** Animal-X_aWay is now known as Animal-X[15:52:49] <sundaymorning> hm, it works on vmware, though[15:56:02] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[15:57:08] <Yaroze> sundaymorning: strange, a vmware file working in vmware but not in virtualbox :D[15:57:12] *** HaikuBot has joined #haiku[15:59:22] *** tqh has quit IRC[16:00:14] <sundaymorning> Yaroze: it's possible to write a vmdk that works on both, I thought that was the case[16:00:48] <mmadia> It might be a regression in VirtualBox... there was a ticket about it a week or two ago.[16:01:20] <sundaymorning> hm, I see[16:04:35] <mmadia> "It seems it was a regression, VirtualBox 3.0.12 is able to boot haiku .vmdk again." http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/4944#comment:2[16:04:59] <sundaymorning> that's probably it then :-)[16:05:00] <sundaymorning> thanks[16:09:34] <Xeon3D> why are all the BeOS \ Haiku related download sites so bloated and slow...[16:13:04] <StreaK|ON> Xeon3D because if you buy a server with +10gb [ or more ] for a repo with unlimited bandwith you'll know that this server will be slow , 'coz these servers are generally usea as repos/files repositories/warez sities ... :)[16:14:34] <mmadia> iirc, karl also upgraded to a dedicated server. he was also looking for some help in altering and-or redesigning haikuware[16:15:34] <StreaK|ON> my server for synthetic repo isnt fast aswell[16:17:56] <Xeon3D> why not use mediafire for the file hosting... it usually works good, even tho it's not a 1 click download[16:19:07] <StreaK|ON> hmm.. because these servers kills files after some time[16:19:52] <StreaK|ON> and if you wont to have it virtually "forever" you need to have account.. and users should have account on mediafire too[16:20:01] <StreaK|ON> wont = want :)[16:20:39] <StreaK|ON> to download stuff without irritating timers and adverts[16:20:39] *** miqlas has quit IRC[16:21:59] <StreaK|ON> the concept of having files on many servers dies with bebits actually[16:22:45] <StreaK|ON> and now 40% apps on bebits links to deadsiteis[16:22:51] <StreaK|ON> deadsities[16:23:03] <StreaK|ON> or even more[16:26:07] *** manvich has quit IRC[16:26:15] <Xeon3D> mediafire has no timers...[16:26:28] <Xeon3D> but ok yeah[16:27:50] * StreaK|ON wish to download all bebits apps when it was possible[16:28:35] * StreaK|ON now cries because many apps gone forever from bebits [ and internet ][16:30:04] <urnenfeld> StreaK|ON before on Beshare could be recovered most of it...[16:30:35] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[16:31:57] <sundaymorning> I tried links from bebits but it didn't work on haiku gcc 4 :-(. What browser do you guys use on vmware?[16:32:41] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[16:32:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[16:33:00] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[16:33:53] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[16:33:58] <sundaymorning> actually I'd like to try out that port for webkit people are doing[16:34:07] <sundaymorning> but I have no idea where to start from even[16:34:09] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[16:35:15] <StreaK|ON> btw -> http://www.haikuware.com/10-software/887-help-with-completing-synthetics-repository[16:36:20] *** manvich has joined #haiku[16:38:26] *** manvich has quit IRC[16:39:30] <umccullough> sundaymorning, everyone usually uses firefox[16:39:30] <umccullough> ala bezillabrowser[16:40:01] <umccullough> and by choosing a gcc4-only build of haiku, you've sort of limited your options ;)[16:40:49] <sundaymorning> yeah, my goal with it is to try out webkit's port to haiku. See if I can do something with it[16:41:00] <umccullough> why not just build a hybrid?[16:41:04] <umccullough> or, download one[16:41:34] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[16:41:40] <umccullough> then you could run/compile both gcc2 and gcc4 apps on the same install[16:41:46] <sundaymorning> hm, I didn't know of that choice. I thought that alpha iso didn't have gcc 4 compatibility[16:41:56] <umccullough> the alpha had both[16:42:03] <umccullough> it was a gcc2 hybrid[16:42:15] <umccullough> meaning it was compiled with gcc2 but also had gcc4 libs and both toolchains[16:42:21] <sundaymorning> hm, I didn't have to go into all the trouble of compiling haiku, then :-P[16:42:39] <umccullough> btw, our nightly site contains 4 different types of haiku builds[16:42:51] <umccullough> gcc2hybrid, gcc4hybrid, gcc2 only, and gcc4 only[16:43:48] * umccullough wonders why his machine is currently being suckful[16:43:57] <umccullough> http://haiku-files.org/[16:44:51] <umccullough> technically, it contains 12 different types since it provides raw, vmdk, and iso versions of the above ;)[16:45:14] <mmadia> &ppc -- i still need to expose the links on the front page.[16:45:28] <StreaK|ON> ppc ver ?[16:45:32] <sundaymorning> what's the difference between gcc2hybrid and gcc4hybrid?[16:46:03] <umccullough> gcc2hybrid means that the entire os is compiled with gcc2, but it also has extra gcc4 libs for running gcc4 software[16:46:05] <umccullough> it comes with both compilers, but gcc2 is the default[16:46:13] <mmadia> StreaK|ON ppc is one of the non-x86 ports that are in the works... none of them are end-user functionable.[16:46:21] <umccullough> gcc4 hybrid means the entire os is compiled with gcc4, but also has gcc2 libs for backward compatibility[16:46:31] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[16:46:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[16:46:41] <sundaymorning> but what would be the effect of that? I mean, would be certain software that would work in one and not in the other?[16:46:43] <umccullough> sundaymorning, the "official" style is a gcc2hybrid currently[16:46:56] <umccullough> well, there's a couple differences[16:47:10] <umccullough> first of all, haiku has only been well tested when compiled with gcc2[16:47:18] <StreaK|ON> sundaymorning but for compatibility with gcc2 libs i would download gcc2h if i would be You[16:47:23] <umccullough> there have been some bugs uncovered throughout the os when it's compiled with gcc4[16:48:16] <umccullough> secondly, the way the hybrids work is a bit confusing - the "extra" libs are stuffed into a subdirectory under the lib dir, and when installing software you download, if you don't realize this, you may unzip the libs into the wrong location[16:48:51] <umccullough> there is for example, some gcc4-compiled software out there that doesn't understand that the gcc4 libs must reside in the gcc4 subdir under libs[16:49:06] <umccullough> they were therefore not designed to run properly on a gcc2hybrid, only on a gcc4 or gcc4hybrid system[16:49:14] <umccullough> ditto with gcc2 software out there[16:49:56] <umccullough> it's kinda hard to explain until you see and understand the differences in the file structure and the runtime_loader[16:52:33] <sundaymorning> I kinda understood the idea, though[16:52:35] <sundaymorning> thanks[16:52:59] *** manvich has joined #haiku[16:54:48] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[16:55:45] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[16:56:50] *** alexsuraci has quit IRC[16:57:03] *** alexsuraci has joined #haiku[17:03:58] *** alexsuraci has quit IRC[17:06:20] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[17:15:26] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[17:15:39] <GeneralMaximus> hi :)[17:15:43] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[17:18:04] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[17:19:39] *** sundaymorning has quit IRC[17:19:56] *** sundaymorning has joined #haiku[17:20:30] *** urnenfeld has quit IRC[17:21:11] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[17:21:53] *** alexsuraci has joined #haiku[17:25:25] *** umccullough_c2d has joined #haiku[17:25:40] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[17:26:44] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[17:27:08] *** kitallis is now known as GeneralMaximuss[17:27:30] *** GeneralMaximuss is now known as kitallis[17:33:19] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[17:34:11] *** kitallis is now known as pronoy[17:34:19] *** pronoy is now known as kitallis[17:35:47] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[17:38:44] *** ari-free has joined #haiku[17:39:53] *** Hugen has quit IRC[17:41:05] *** gobgob has quit IRC[17:43:37] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:44:51] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[17:44:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[17:46:21] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[17:47:40] *** Animal-X has quit IRC[17:50:32] *** gobgob has joined #haiku[17:52:37] <The123king> I had some issues yesterday, with a recent build, regarding CPU usage and my PS/2 mouse... it even sent me to KDL[17:52:55] <The123king> known bug or what?[17:56:37] <mmadia> umccullough might've seen a similar issue a week or so ago.[17:57:00] <umccullough_c2d> The123king yes...same here with recent builds on my core 2 duo :([17:57:08] <umccullough_c2d> also happens with keyboard[17:57:19] <umccullough_c2d> if you hold down the spacebar for example[17:57:33] <umccullough_c2d> i didn't report it yet[17:57:56] <umccullough_c2d> mainly because i haven't had time - someone needs to binary-search for the problem, since it doesn't happen with R1/Alpha1[17:59:26] *** gobgob has quit IRC[18:03:03] <The123king> hmmm, glad to see it's not just me :)[18:03:55] <The123king> sounds like it could be a bug in the input-server then[18:05:16] *** impy has quit IRC[18:06:28] *** triplez has joined #haiku[18:10:24] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[18:14:38] *** killermouse0 has quit IRC[18:16:36] <umccullough_c2d> DraX - what did you tell me yesterday about cairo's cworth?[18:21:59] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[18:23:01] *** mmadia has quit IRC[18:24:07] *** kitallis has left #haiku[18:28:34] *** SiCuTDeUx__ has joined #haiku[18:33:57] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has quit IRC[18:36:10] *** impy has joined #haiku[18:40:33] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[18:41:09] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[18:42:08] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[18:42:29] <The123king> :)[18:43:25] *** dwarfyperson is now known as eisenawesome[18:45:10] <umccullough_c2d> The123king if you have process controller open when the CPU spike occurs, you'll see that the "hang" happens with the PS2 threads specifically in the input_server[18:45:34] *** congocongo has joined #haiku[18:45:36] <umccullough_c2d> so, I would guess it's very much PS2 specific[18:46:28] *** impy has quit IRC[18:47:59] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[18:50:23] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[18:51:15] *** phalax has quit IRC[18:51:50] *** phalax has joined #haiku[18:52:37] *** congocongo_ has joined #haiku[18:53:41] *** Geoz has quit IRC[18:54:15] <The123king> Hmmm...[18:55:05] *** glootech_ has joined #haiku[18:57:04] <umccullough_c2d> i'm really not sure what to think - it might be related to the port tweaks that axel did a while back[18:57:15] <umccullough_c2d> perhaps some kind of bottleneck was introduced[18:57:30] <umccullough_c2d> that's why a binary search will be necessary I think :([18:57:48] <umccullough_c2d> i'm surprised so few people are hitting it[18:59:40] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[19:01:08] *** urnenfeld has joined #haiku[19:02:32] <The123king> might be a hardware-specific bug[19:02:44] *** helf|laptop has joined #haiku[19:06:37] *** HaikuBot1 has joined #haiku[19:07:23] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[19:07:38] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[19:08:38] *** congocongo has quit IRC[19:09:11] <CIA-7> colin * r34349 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/net/bosii_driver.h:[19:09:11] <CIA-7> Needed header to allow compilation of the wlan stack.[19:09:11] <CIA-7> Bosii is a transcription of 802.11. It is a work-in-progress title to[19:09:11] <CIA-7> point out parts of the wlan stack which are still in an experimental state.[19:09:11] <CIA-7> For example the control codes within bosii_driver.h are moving targets.[19:09:14] *** congocongo has joined #haiku[19:12:11] <helf|laptop> hi[19:12:38] *** glootech has quit IRC[19:14:51] <The123king> hey[19:14:59] <The123king> we're not all dead in here ;)[19:15:28] * The123king gets the cattle-prod out to wake everhyone else up[19:15:36] <umccullough_c2d> there are many levels of dead[19:17:22] *** congocongo_ has quit IRC[19:19:19] *** manvich has quit IRC[19:21:26] *** Hugen has quit IRC[19:22:40] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[19:24:07] * umccullough_c2d is grump that git help wants to run man[19:24:10] <umccullough_c2d> grumpy[19:24:54] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[19:25:17] <helf|laptop> yo umccullough[19:26:10] *** tqh has joined #haiku[19:26:49] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[19:27:21] <umccullough_c2d> i need to learn how to properly use git :P[19:30:17] *** Atomozero has joined #haiku[19:32:14] *** congocongo_ has joined #haiku[19:38:46] <MrSunshine> wlan stack merged with trunk now? :)[19:39:25] <StreaK|ON> is it merged?[19:39:50] <MrSunshine> colin * r34349 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/net/bosii_driver.h:[19:39:51] <MrSunshine> etc etc[19:39:53] *** congocongo has quit IRC[19:39:54] *** congocongo_ is now known as congocongo[19:40:19] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[19:42:43] <umccullough_c2d> looks like a lot of it is committed to haiku repo[19:42:51] <umccullough_c2d> but afaik, it doesn't build automatically with haiku yet[19:49:03] *** Atomozero has quit IRC[19:50:00] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[19:50:44] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[19:52:21] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[19:52:29] *** congocongo_ has joined #haiku[19:53:26] <helf|laptop> umccullough_c2d, move yet? :)[19:53:27] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:53:36] *** xvedejas has joined #haiku[19:57:06] <umccullough_c2d> not moving[19:57:14] <umccullough_c2d> besides, still in escrow[19:58:21] *** binaryimpulse has joined #haiku[19:59:08] <Lelldorin1> hi all[19:59:51] <Hugen_> hi[20:01:22] <Xeon3D> hi[20:01:27] <kirilla> hi[20:01:39] <umccullough_c2d> ho[20:01:47] <kirilla> hi[20:01:57] <umccullough_c2d> o[20:01:59] <umccullough_c2d> doh[20:02:06] <kirilla> :))[20:02:12] * umccullough_c2d goes to find his coffee again[20:02:18] <kirilla> Hugen_: what are you doing in Poland?[20:02:22] *** tqh has quit IRC[20:02:23] <CIA-7> stpere * r34350 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/Window.cpp: Reverting r34335. Wrong location of my "B_NOT_MINIZABLE" check.[20:02:52] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[20:03:17] <Hugen_> kirilla: live?[20:03:38] <umccullough_c2d> lol[20:03:46] <kirilla> Hugen_: Aren't you Swedish?[20:04:12] <umccullough_c2d> afaik, he's always been in .pl[20:04:42] <kirilla> early alzheimer must be sneaking up on me[20:04:57] <Hugen_> kirilla: I don't think so[20:05:01] <Hugen_> :)[20:05:07] <kirilla> heh[20:05:36] <kirilla> majorly weird[20:05:39] <Hugen_> kirrilla: Why are you thinking that?[20:06:05] <kirilla> Hugen_: I think you've written to me in Swedish, but making I'm mixing up nicknames[20:06:09] *** gtaw has quit IRC[20:06:16] <kirilla> s/making/maybe[20:07:02] <Hugen_> propably yes ;)[20:08:12] <kirilla> *grumble*[20:08:17] *** congocongo has quit IRC[20:08:53] *** congocongo has joined #haiku[20:10:07] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[20:10:11] <Hugen_> he he[20:10:17] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[20:10:22] *** blaze has joined #haiku[20:10:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[20:11:52] *** blaze has quit IRC[20:11:59] *** blaze has joined #haiku[20:12:02] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[20:13:41] *** kirilla has quit IRC[20:16:55] <DraX> umccullough_c2d: just that it's unlikely that he'd push a broken build[20:19:39] *** congocongo_ has quit IRC[20:19:52] * MrSunshine is swedish =)[20:21:18] * thebolt is as well.. but so what? :P[20:21:25] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[20:23:37] * StreaK|ON not :)[20:23:57] *** PasNox has quit IRC[20:24:34] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[20:28:42] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[20:31:56] * Hugen_ as you know not too[20:38:00] *** jvogel has joined #haiku[20:38:34] <umccullough_c2d> DraX ah, yeah it turned out to be beos-specific after all, but it was an issue that didn't exist prior anyway, which is odd[20:38:49] <umccullough_c2d> someone must have rearranged the mutex code in a way that busted it[20:39:03] <umccullough_c2d> probably by putting the pthread stuff *after* the beos stuff when it probably used to be prior[20:40:11] *** jvogel_ has joined #haiku[20:40:18] *** jvogel_ has quit IRC[20:40:39] *** jvogel_ has joined #haiku[20:40:58] *** jvogel_ has quit IRC[20:41:08] *** jvogel has quit IRC[20:42:29] *** kitallis has joined #haiku[20:44:21] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[20:47:18] *** jvogel has joined #haiku[20:47:51] *** jvogel has quit IRC[20:51:02] *** kitallis has left #haiku[20:54:38] <CIA-7> stpere * r34351 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/Desktop.cpp:[20:54:38] <CIA-7> Don't minimize windows (when hiding applications) if they have[20:54:38] <CIA-7> the B_NOT_MINIMIZABLE flag. It should more properly fix #4337.[20:54:48] *** jvogel has joined #haiku[20:55:10] * Xeon3D wonders if the Tracker preferences bug has been fixed yet :P[20:56:16] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[20:56:20] *** genkie has joined #haiku[20:56:50] <StreaK|ON> Hey, xeon3D did you checked FF3 on haiku? coz i couldnt run it[20:57:06] <StreaK|ON> ff3 jumps into debug[20:57:18] <Xeon3D> I have it running[20:57:20] <StreaK|ON> after start[20:57:36] <StreaK|ON> on which build you run it?[20:57:39] <Hugen_> Xeon3D: on Alpha?[20:58:15] <Xeon3D> no[20:58:25] <Hugen_> Xeon3D: is this old ver with 2006?[20:58:30] <Hugen_> ah[21:00:38] <Xeon3D> it's 3.0 a1 which is on bebits[21:02:04] <Hugen_> yep, It uses Cairo?[21:02:15] <eisenawesome> no[21:02:21] <eisenawesome> the early alphas don't need cairo[21:03:18] *** urnenfeld has quit IRC[21:03:30] <Hugen_> has something common with Fx 3.0 for other systems?[21:03:34] <Hugen_> ah[21:03:39] *** congocongo_ has joined #haiku[21:04:10] <Hugen_> complete fake[21:04:10] <umccullough_c2d> StreaK|ON you wouldn't want to run that version of FF3 anyway, it was extremely buggy[21:04:16] *** HaikuBot1 has quit IRC[21:05:23] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[21:05:32] <Hugen_> Stop calling this version of Fx 2.xx with Fx 3[21:05:32] *** PacoLinux has quit IRC[21:05:59] <Xeon3D> Hugen_, huh?[21:06:13] <Hugen_> This has almost nothing in common with the new Fx[21:06:27] <Hugen_> even stable[21:06:35] <Hugen_> even Cairo[21:06:48] <Hugen_> nothing, nothing[21:07:09] <Hugen_> apart from the name of course[21:07:15] *** urnenfeld has joined #haiku[21:07:24] <umccullough_c2d> well, it was indeed the FF3 branch - but long before it was stable[21:07:39] <umccullough_c2d> codename Minefield[21:07:50] <Xeon3D> indeed.[21:07:57] <Hugen_> long and even need Cairo[21:08:19] <Hugen_> sorry, this is fake of Fx3 for me[21:08:30] <umccullough_c2d> eh, it was basically pre-ff3[21:08:33] <Xeon3D> it's not a Fake...[21:08:40] <umccullough_c2d> just a nightly build[21:08:44] <Xeon3D> it was an Alpha Build of Firefox 3.[21:09:01] <umccullough_c2d> i wouldn't use it[21:09:02] <Xeon3D> when haiku gets to 1.0, will you call Alpha 1 a fake?[21:09:03] <Xeon3D> lol[21:09:14] <Xeon3D> i'm using it just for fun. :)[21:09:18] <umccullough_c2d> bezillabrowser is a bugfixed, patched version of FF2[21:09:21] <Hugen_> and today is no longer shouldn't to be reminded this[21:09:29] <Xeon3D> it's on my OS Testing box.[21:09:49] <Hugen_> yep, I understand[21:09:52] <umccullough_c2d> and bezillabrowser is compiled *for* haiku[21:10:03] <umccullough_c2d> so, it's not a "compatible" version from beos[21:10:40] <umccullough_c2d> bezillabrowser also has both gcc2 and gcc4 versions :)[21:10:44] <Hugen_> but mention it in news, a little funny[21:11:08] *** totish has joined #haiku[21:11:26] <Hugen_> hi lviv[21:14:10] <Hugen_> and I waiting on Cairo along :P[21:15:23] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[21:15:50] <totish> hi Poland![21:15:55] <StreaK|ON> :)[21:17:00] <totish> I dont now from are you concretly[21:17:12] <stpere> I'm for a new world order.. only 3 countries in world..[21:17:23] <totish> poland is big[21:17:31] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[21:17:54] *** impy has joined #haiku[21:17:55] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[21:18:50] *** congocongo has quit IRC[21:18:50] *** congocongo_ is now known as congocongo[21:21:00] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[21:23:17] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[21:23:24] <Hugen_> ukraine too[21:25:32] <totish> jak tam Haiku! Rosnie?[21:25:48] <Hugen_> Xeon3D , sorry for my harsh talking but i have a very bad day today.. and i still waiting on Fx 3.x on Haiku[21:26:50] <hUMUNGUs> Baaaaarca :-)[21:27:32] <Hugen_> totish: incorrect chanel[21:27:50] <Hugen_> *channel[21:28:53] <Hugen_> rośnie ;)[21:29:20] <Hugen_> growing and growing[21:31:56] <CIA-7> korli * r34352 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/audio/hda/ (driver.h hda_codec.cpp hda_codec_defs.h hda_controller.cpp):[21:31:56] <CIA-7> * added vref and unsol responses definitions[21:31:56] <CIA-7> * untested unsolicited response support[21:31:56] <CIA-7> * added quirk support for vref and gpio[21:31:56] <CIA-7> * vref are now enabled for all inputs, and gpio for some Apple Macs[21:31:59] <CIA-7> * replaced dprintf with TRACE and ERROR macros[21:38:42] <urnenfeld> hUMUNGUs there are Real supporters around[21:39:09] *** blaze has quit IRC[21:39:32] *** blaze has joined #haiku[21:41:27] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[21:43:25] *** genkie has quit IRC[21:44:37] *** Colin_Finck is now known as Colin_Finck|afk[21:45:15] *** _oxoocoffee_ has joined #haiku[21:46:50] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[21:46:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[21:47:43] *** xvedejas has quit IRC[21:48:29] *** ukev has joined #haiku[21:49:10] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[21:49:47] *** The123king has quit IRC[21:50:47] <CIA-7> korli * r34353 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/audio/hda/hda_codec.cpp: added another MacBook quirk[21:57:32] *** korli has joined #haiku[21:57:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[22:00:24] *** tqh has joined #haiku[22:00:43] *** Colin_Finck|afk is now known as Colin_Finck[22:04:47] *** john_dee has quit IRC[22:07:11] <CIA-7> dlmcpaul * r34354 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/media/plugins/avi_reader/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Added ODML Index support, still needs work though too much duplicated code. Feedback welcome[22:07:23] *** _oxoocoffee_ has quit IRC[22:12:55] *** sundaymorning has quit IRC[22:16:17] <CIA-7> korli * r34355 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/audio/hda/ (5 files):[22:16:17] <CIA-7> * cleanup[22:16:17] <CIA-7> * use gpio count for gpio quirks[22:17:13] *** ukev has quit IRC[22:21:01] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[22:21:28] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[22:21:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aldeck[22:21:41] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[22:22:52] *** PacoLinux has joined #haiku[22:25:32] *** totish has quit IRC[22:25:44] *** jmayfield__ has joined #haiku[22:27:03] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:27:56] *** manvich has joined #haiku[22:29:01] *** nutela has joined #haiku[22:29:46] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[22:30:10] <nutela> Yo guys, I'm in trouble; how can I print to PDF with gobe Productive? I did it once but it is a long time ago (need to print a multi-track audio mix on paper, yes!)[22:31:37] *** congocongo_ has joined #haiku[22:33:30] <CIA-7> korli * r34356 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/clock/ (cl_view.cpp cl_view.h): fixed warnings[22:35:31] <nutela> korli: you there?[22:36:48] *** joshc has quit IRC[22:38:23] <CIA-7> phoudoin * r34357 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/midi/patchbay/ (EndpointInfo.cpp Jamfile):[22:38:23] <CIA-7> Applied changes by Pete Goodeve to add PatchBay endpoint's vector icon support.[22:38:23] <CIA-7> Display size is still kept to 32x32.[22:38:23] <CIA-7> M patchbay/Jamfile[22:38:23] <CIA-7> M patchbay/EndpointInfo.cpp[22:38:46] <nutela> Ah I see it works in Haiku[22:39:26] <CIA-7> phoudoin * r34358 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/midi/ (DeviceWatcher.cpp DeviceWatcher.h):[22:39:26] <CIA-7> Stupid me, vector icon data loaded by a local BResources[22:39:26] <CIA-7> object is lost outside its scope.[22:39:26] <CIA-7> Now vector data is copied instead.[22:39:26] <CIA-7> Spotted by Pete Goodeve, thanks![22:39:26] <CIA-7> This should close #4562.[22:42:56] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[22:43:48] <korli> hi nutela[22:44:11] *** blaze has quit IRC[22:44:36] *** phoudoin has joined #haiku[22:44:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o phoudoin[22:47:12] <CIA-7> phoudoin * r34359 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/midi/patchbay/Jamfile: Removed lost comment.[22:47:47] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[22:48:35] *** congocongo has quit IRC[22:48:36] *** congocongo_ is now known as congocongo[22:48:43] <nutela> Hey korli[22:48:56] <nutela> Where are print jobs located in BeOS do you know?[22:49:33] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[22:50:18] <nutela> I can't seem to print anything to PDF in Haiku - there is a save to PDF printer but I don't know where it generates the PDF, not in home or ~/desktop[22:50:25] <helf|laptop> hi nutela[22:52:15] <phoudoin> nutela: it depends on which port your PDF Writer "printer" is connected to[22:52:28] <phoudoin> It should be "Print To File"[22:53:05] <phoudoin> otherwiser, you just send the generated PDF over USB, serial, Parallel or socket port ;-)[22:53:21] <phoudoin> So, check in preferences > Printers[22:55:07] <phoudoin> Plus, check it's your default printer, BTW[22:56:34] *** Nozy has joined #haiku[22:58:10] <CIA-7> korli * r34360 /haiku/trunk/src/system/runtime_loader/arch/ (m68k/Jamfile ppc/Jamfile x86/Jamfile): added tls.o to runtimeloader. It linked successfully on x86 because of inlining.[22:59:38] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[23:00:28] *** nutela1 has joined #haiku[23:03:38] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[23:05:26] *** PacoLinux has quit IRC[23:05:32] *** tombhad-AC has joined #haiku[23:11:14] *** nutela has quit IRC[23:12:31] <Xeon3D> erm... what is haiku's default ssh password?[23:13:55] <OmniMancer> don't think it has one...[23:14:33] <Xeon3D> hmmm then i guess i must set one up[23:14:55] <Xeon3D> since it's asking for one when i'm trying to connect to it[23:16:25] *** xvedejas has joined #haiku[23:16:30] <JonathanThompson> Good to read it doesn't have a default password :)[23:16:45] <JonathanThompson> Default passwords are the bane of any semblance of security at the start.[23:17:02] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[23:17:07] *** gtaw has quit IRC[23:19:15] *** congocongo has quit IRC[23:20:03] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[23:20:51] *** sundaymorning has joined #haiku[23:23:33] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:23:51] *** Andrius has quit IRC[23:24:16] *** urnenfeld has quit IRC[23:25:10] *** phoudoin has quit IRC[23:25:29] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[23:28:07] <Xeon3D> JonathanThompson, haha just found a very old screenshot featuring no other than yourself on BeShare[23:28:25] <JonathanThompson> :P[23:28:31] <Xeon3D> http://dev.beworld.info/dano_screenshots/screen9.png[23:28:33] <JonathanThompson> Dollhouse?[23:28:41] *** DaaT has quit IRC[23:28:48] <Xeon3D> pity there aren't any good BeShare servers anymore[23:29:13] <eisenawesome> start one[23:29:24] *** ari-free has quit IRC[23:29:37] <Xeon3D> eisenawesome, well that's an idea[23:29:44] <JonathanThompson> Nope, that's not the shot they used in an episode of Dollhouse I'm also in :P[23:29:56] *** ari-free has joined #haiku[23:30:06] <eisenawesome> lol[23:30:07] <Xeon3D> JonathanThompson, gimme a link then.[23:30:15] <eisenawesome> you shoulda sued for royalties[23:30:17] <JonathanThompson> I don't have it memorized :P[23:30:40] <JonathanThompson> The link can be found in the #Haiku logs :)[23:30:58] <JonathanThompson> Search for my name and Dollhouse, you should find it.[23:31:17] <Ingenu> you're our new celebrity ?[23:31:33] <JonathanThompson> I'm not the only one mentioned in that screenshot.[23:31:40] <HeTo> quite a few from this channel are in that shot, I think[23:31:46] <HeTo> you can also find it on OSnews[23:32:23] <eisenawesome> the ones on osnews are too fuzzy to actually read the screen[23:32:26] * JonathanThompson should remember to inform potential employers there's unexpected verifiable proof he's part of the community[23:33:23] <HeTo> Thom didn't add the link the screenshot itself to the article text?[23:33:27] <Xeon3D> JonathanThompson, http://www.dollhouse24.yoyo.pl/images/newsscreen.png ?[23:33:35] <JonathanThompson> Yes.[23:33:38] <HeTo> anyway, it can be found in one of the first comments to the article[23:33:55] <Xeon3D> erm.... how do u you know you're there?[23:33:59] <Xeon3D> that pic is tiny?[23:34:20] <Ingenu> lol[23:34:39] <JonathanThompson> http://i41.tinypic.com/vfja6u.jpg[23:35:12] <JonathanThompson> Just my username is visible: no text from me :P[23:35:40] <JonathanThompson> bs0 burped, and that's the craziest thing, besides (perhaps) the link he posted.[23:35:41] <Ingenu> omg I'm there too[23:36:04] <Ingenu> how did that screenshot end up in Dollhouse ?[23:36:20] <Ingenu> it must be years old[23:37:29] <eisenawesome> JonathanThompson: I can't see your nick in that shot[23:37:31] <eisenawesome> mmadia, yeah[23:37:33] <eisenawesome> but not you[23:37:39] <JonathanThompson> It's truncated a little bit.[23:37:43] <eisenawesome> oh yeah[23:37:45] <eisenawesome> see it now[23:37:49] <JonathanThompson> JonathanTh[23:37:54] * JonathanThompson shrugs[23:38:19] <Ingenu> there's mine too ![23:38:21] <Ingenu> I'm famous ![23:38:21] <JonathanThompson> But if that isn't a warning to be incredibly careful what you say online, I don't know what is.[23:38:22] <Ingenu> ;)[23:38:27] <Ingenu> who's screen was that ?[23:38:43] <JonathanThompson> bs0 I think.[23:38:54] *** nutela1 has quit IRC[23:39:05] <Ingenu> that just makes me laugh[23:39:15] <JonathanThompson> He's sending a priviate message to le_prOSy_dualBarton[23:39:29] <JonathanThompson> And then he gets one back.[23:39:58] <CIA-7> scottmc * r549 /haikuporter/trunk/haikuporter: This patch to haikuporter, allows you to skip stages (unpacking, patching, building)[23:40:52] <Ingenu> I assume they didn't want to advertise for any existing OS[23:40:57] <Ingenu> so they used something that doesn't exist anymore[23:41:13] <JonathanThompson> That's a reasonable enough explanation :)[23:41:32] *** davep has joined #haiku[23:41:34] <JonathanThompson> Look at the blue folders on the desktop :)[23:41:43] <Ingenu> it's still weird to see a several years old screenshot of a defunct OS airing in a show, and being on screen (although that can't be seen in the series)[23:42:16] <JonathanThompson> Well, if you zoom in and recorded it in high enough quality mode...[23:42:45] <JonathanThompson> Still won't be the most clear.[23:43:03] <JonathanThompson> (Despite what they show you on TV where they take less information than they actually have and make it sharp)[23:43:06] <eisenawesome> what's the current state of trunk?[23:43:10] <eisenawesome> not horribly broken in any way?[23:43:28] <JonathanThompson> Don't know, eisenawesome[23:44:28] <eisenawesome> I think i'm gonna drag the p3 out of the garage and put haiku on it[23:44:37] *** jmayfield__ has quit IRC[23:44:39] <eisenawesome> but I want to know if it's safe to download a nightly at this point[23:44:48] <CIA-7> scottmc * r550 /haikuports/trunk/ (115 files in 88 dirs): This patch adds the MD5 checksums to all of the .bep files.[23:44:53] <JonathanThompson> Downloading one is always safe![23:45:01] <eisenawesome> :P[23:45:04] <JonathanThompson> (Using it is an entirely different question)[23:45:31] <stpere> eisenawesome: won't eat your cat[23:45:50] <JonathanThompson> The dog isn't safe, however ;)[23:45:51] <Xeon3D> eisenawesome, i checked the svn recently, i'm using it on a Celly @ 1ghz[23:45:55] <stpere> doh.. if it happens to eat his cat, I can be sued?[23:46:11] <eisenawesome> no[23:46:13] <eisenawesome> I don't have a cat[23:46:13] <Xeon3D> recently as in erm... 3 days[23:46:21] <eisenawesome> I'll give it a fling[23:47:28] <eisenawesome> what>[23:47:40] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[23:47:43] <eisenawesome> why would I care?[23:47:49] <Xeon3D> eisenawesome, anyway, what good would a nice BeShare server be, if both existing ones are *empty* and everyone's here? :D[23:48:01] <eisenawesome> I know[23:48:11] <eisenawesome> I still don't particularly care[23:48:37] * JonathanThompson calls delete on Ingenu[23:48:46] <Ingenu> that's mean[23:49:03] * JonathanThompson smirks[23:49:35] <Ingenu> I don't connect to Muscle anymore[23:49:44] <Ingenu> I used to have BeShare always up and running[23:49:49] <Ingenu> then Unizone[23:49:54] <Ingenu> but now, we are almost all in here[23:50:07] <Ingenu> we found a new home[23:50:28] <Ingenu> that said when Haiku takes off (or is released), it would be nice to migrate to BeShare to help people[23:50:45] <Ingenu> the BeOS community was a good part of the experience[23:51:26] <stpere> yes.[23:51:48] *** tombhad-AC has quit IRC[23:52:04] <eisenawesome> if I'm writing the raw image to the root of the drive (/dev/sdx rather than /dev/sdx#) I don't have to run makebootable, correct?[23:52:51] <stpere> eisenawesome: you are right[23:53:06] <eisenawesome> that's what i thought awesome[23:53:25] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[23:53:33] <eisenawesome> because I don't think i have any blank cd's atm[23:55:52] *** congocongo has joined #haiku[23:56:03] *** Barrett has quit IRC[23:57:04] <HeTo> Xeon3D: both? I’ve only ever connected to one BeShare server[23:57:24] <CIA-7> scottmc * r551 /haikuports/trunk/app-arch/zoo/ (licenses zoo.OptionalPackageDescription licenses/zoo): License and .OptionalPackageDescription files for zoo[23:59:55] *** ziomatto has quit IRC