November 21, 2009 
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November 21, 2009 [00:01:42] *** ^kenhoob-it1 has quit IRC[00:03:36] *** hoelzro has quit IRC[00:09:11] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[00:09:15] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[00:11:55] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:16:09] *** crash_ has quit IRC[00:16:56] <helf|laptop> anyone interested in buying a NeXT?[00:22:21] <kirilla> 68k based?[00:23:18] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[00:24:50] *** brrant has quit IRC[00:26:41] <helf|laptop> yes[00:26:47] <helf|laptop> Only NeXTs to exist :P[00:27:32] *** Barrett has quit IRC[00:31:00] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[00:32:34] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[00:34:00] *** Andrius has quit IRC[00:36:07] <kirilla> Would be cool to see one IRL, but I'm not interested in buying.[00:36:21] <helf|laptop> k[00:37:09] *** korli_ has quit IRC[00:37:24] <kirilla> bbl[00:37:26] *** kirilla has quit IRC[00:38:05] *** rxt0 has joined #haiku[00:39:04] *** slaad has joined #haiku[00:39:29] *** J-Ho has left #haiku[00:40:03] *** brrant has joined #haiku[00:40:33] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[00:41:21] <rxt0> just a question: is Haiku POSIX-compilant?[00:42:21] <MrSunshine__> it has posix support but dunno about how much realy :)[00:42:28] <MrSunshine__> most posix apps compile without a hitch[00:42:38] *** H_MrSun has quit IRC[00:43:10] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[00:44:46] <helf|laptop> MrSunshine__, the reply should be "Enough". :P[00:45:18] <rxt0> thx, any clue about alpha2? :D alpha1 is awesome[00:45:46] <eisenawesome> just download a trunk build[00:46:12] <eisenawesome> or do we not have a build factory atm[00:46:41] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[00:46:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[00:47:00] <brobostigon> eisenawesome: we get svn builds on haiku-files at-tm[00:48:38] <eisenawesome> that's what i figured[00:50:44] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[00:50:54] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[00:56:20] *** gtaw has quit IRC[00:56:25] *** cuebol has joined #haiku[00:56:46] *** triplez has quit IRC[00:56:53] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[00:56:54] *** gtaw is now known as tiggy[00:59:11] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[01:02:46] *** brrant has quit IRC[01:03:31] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[01:06:15] *** DaaT has quit IRC[01:09:25] *** phalax has quit IRC[01:10:08] *** phalax has joined #haiku[01:10:21] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[01:13:11] *** MadEchidna has quit IRC[01:21:02] *** xcasex has quit IRC[01:22:20] *** HaikuBot has joined #haiku[01:24:07] *** MYOB has quit IRC[01:26:58] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[01:42:23] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:44:11] *** Geoz has quit IRC[01:47:00] *** wildur has quit IRC[01:47:14] *** tiggy has quit IRC[01:53:49] *** Kroki has quit IRC[01:53:49] *** saivert has quit IRC[01:58:04] *** fly-away has quit IRC[02:00:02] *** saivert has joined #haiku[02:09:13] *** bverre has joined #haiku[02:09:18] <bverre> hello[02:11:07] <JonathanThompson> olleh[02:11:32] <bverre> been a while ... love the new videos link in the topic, nice collection[02:11:44] <helf|laptop> bbl[02:12:10] <bverre> heard you guys got massive snow out in washington[02:12:27] *** jmayfield__ has joined #haiku[02:13:06] <JonathanThompson> I'm guessing that's in the mountains and perhaps eastern Washington.[02:13:14] <JonathanThompson> Right now, I don't have a regular TV setup.[02:13:20] <JonathanThompson> And I'm between Seattle and Bellevue.[02:13:29] <JonathanThompson> It has been very wet the last week or so.[02:13:33] <bverre> yeah, the guy I was talking to lives in the foothills as he calls it. mountain area, AWD territory[02:13:53] <JonathanThompson> So, where it's cold enough, yes.... that'd be a HUGE amount of snow (I grew up in Michigan and know how that translates)[02:14:06] <bverre> I'm kad77, btw .. changed over to my real name after 15 years or so. what the hell[02:14:16] <JonathanThompson> Ah, ok :P[02:14:22] *** triplez has joined #haiku[02:14:44] <bverre> i live in wisconsin, (milwaukee/madison area) so I'm used to piles of snow myself[02:14:48] <JonathanThompson> For all I know, I won't even be in this area by the end of this year.[02:15:23] <bverre> new work opportunities hopefully?[02:15:29] <JonathanThompson> Yup.[02:15:43] <JonathanThompson> Oddly enough, < 10 miles from HQ of my last employer.[02:16:02] <JonathanThompson> I wasn't looking to move out of the area: they contacted me from seeing my profile on LinkedIn.[02:16:03] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[02:16:29] <bverre> wow. well, works work. I'd like to move to Austin myself. A family member of mine has enjopyed the transplant. nice tech area, warm, etc[02:16:53] <JonathanThompson> Curiously, I'm perhaps an oddball in likely dark and overcast and cool :P[02:16:55] <bverre> what area of the country? or is that top secret? ;-)[02:17:01] <JonathanThompson> Cupertino.[02:17:18] <bverre> Sounds oddly familiar[02:17:24] <gtaw> Nice city.[02:17:26] <JonathanThompson> Yes...[02:18:02] <JonathanThompson> If I get the job, I'll be very deeply into iPhone OS stuff.[02:18:51] <bverre> I'm still buying powerball in the hopes of spending it all on haiku development. Same job, different day. Though I am getting to implement a full blown EHR system this next quarter. Step up for me, IT wise[02:19:03] <JonathanThompson> EHR?[02:19:22] <bverre> fancy acronym for electronic medical records[02:19:34] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[02:19:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[02:19:40] <JonathanThompson> Electronic Hospital for the H?[02:20:03] <bverre> it's apparently more PC to call them electronic health records, but I'm old school i guess[02:20:30] <JonathanThompson> Ah, ok.[02:20:40] <bverre> I never understood the change in terminology, unless they wanted to include herbalists or something[02:20:46] <JonathanThompson> Well, I've never been involved in that specialization of IT/software development.[02:21:09] <bverre> I've been in healthcare for 7 years now[02:21:29] <JonathanThompson> Do you enjoy it, or is it mostly a paycheck?[02:21:33] *** SiCuTDeUx__ has quit IRC[02:21:38] <bverre> but as more of an office person, with only a hand in IT in the beginning. now doing vmware stuff and db stuff[02:21:51] <bverre> I love it actually. I was a MIS major[02:21:59] <bverre> <--- geekball[02:21:59] <JonathanThompson> Ah, ok, then great :P[02:22:27] <JonathanThompson> The world is too varied to have people foolishly working at jobs they hate when they can do jobs they love.[02:22:44] <JonathanThompson> And I'm convinced the world at large suffers when people are stuck doing jobs they hate.[02:23:05] <JonathanThompson> I know I have a hard time getting excited about doing my best at something I hate.[02:23:06] <bverre> For now it's great, anyway. I'm actually trying to learn a lot about VOIP and get my CCNA too[02:23:12] <bverre> for sure[02:23:32] <mmu_man> plop[02:23:40] <mmu_man> bryan ?[02:23:44] <JonathanThompson> People who hate what they're doing often try to do it as cheaply as possible in terms of effort/dedication.[02:23:50] <bverre> the last conference i was at, someone said the greatest challenge of the 21st century will be people's ability toi adapt in the sense of relearning --- versus reading in the 20th century[02:24:15] <JonathanThompson> Well, definitely computer-related stuff is moving incredibly fast.[02:24:53] <bverre> i agree with that. we have to be flexible in technology. i'm into haiku for the next ten year plan. the philosophy is it's second greatest strength[02:25:00] <JonathanThompson> Even counting the fact that a lot of them are copies of the same thing, it's mind-blowing that there's over 100,000 apps on the iTunes AppStore in the time it has been available.[02:25:15] <bverre> wow, didn't know that[02:25:36] <bverre> I want to buy a 'driod myself. when the contracts with sprint is up anyway (5 months.. grrr)[02:25:39] <JonathanThompson> Yesterday and the day before, I was razzing the Apple Store workers that their sign saying 85,000 was out of date :P[02:26:06] <bverre> well, time to seperate the wheat from the chaff. bet their's a lot of crapola[02:26:15] <JonathanThompson> Absolutely.[02:26:54] <bverre> I bought my dad an iphone (loves it) but it lost all ability to make calls, and I had to do an in service and reset the phone. Horrible for the first week experience. Besides that, wonderful. All calls just said 'failed' pathetic, really[02:27:13] *** MadEchidna has joined #haiku[02:27:17] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[02:27:20] <JonathanThompson> That comes down to an average of 1500 people per app available.[02:27:32] <bverre> it's not like you can just pop the battery out, like most phones[02:27:49] <JonathanThompson> Er, 500.[02:28:02] <JonathanThompson> (I had been doing some thinking and left the 1 in by mistake)[02:28:26] <bverre> whoops, someone didn't audit the app sotre properly. guess they cut off tethering. sucks., will wait for root-kitted droid. I have free tethering will my pal 700p w/ sprint with a simple app[02:28:40] <bverre> 500? wtf[02:28:40] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[02:29:12] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[02:29:32] <bverre> thats horrible. they need to start a guideline effective July, 2010, and demote apps to some second or third tier[02:29:47] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[02:30:03] <JonathanThompson> I strongly suspect a lot of them will expire due to non-renewal of developer's accounts.[02:30:16] <JonathanThompson> For those that never got any real sales to begin with.[02:30:57] <JonathanThompson> My observation with creating iPhone games, logically: don't do something everyone else has already done, create something unique.[02:30:58] <bverre> i hope GOOG learns from that. When I get my android phone I want the issues to be worked out. Lived with palm os too long to change quite yet, those it's deader than a doornail.[02:31:09] <JonathanThompson> Otherwise, you'll be in a race for the bottom.[02:31:21] <bverre> just do snake, you'll be good[02:31:25] <JonathanThompson> :P[02:31:45] <bverre> lol. I think thats the #. ??? in profit, myself[02:31:52] * JonathanThompson wonders how many Snake variants there are for the iPhone[02:32:23] <bverre> i bet none that use ________[02:32:45] <JonathanThompson> Now, that'd be a funny thing to do: an ASCII art snake game on the iPhone :P[02:33:09] <bverre> I think an ASCII flash renderer would be classy[02:33:27] <JonathanThompson> It might even keep within proper CPU/battery limitations :P[02:33:31] <Advant-> you mean nibbles? Wasn't that original name?[02:33:42] * JonathanThompson sighs[02:33:45] <bverre> just use 8pt monospace, it'd work out ... with the right colors too[02:34:41] <Advant-> i always liked gorilla.bas[02:34:45] <bverre> I want to see "Syndicate" on the iphone, only redone for touch. it's already basically a click based game[02:34:47] <JonathanThompson> Ah, yes :P[02:34:51] <JonathanThompson> Nuc[02:34:52] <JonathanThompson>[02:34:53] <JonathanThompson>[02:34:56] <JonathanThompson> D'OH![02:35:05] <JonathanThompson> Nuclear Bananas FTW![02:35:18] <bverre> well, as long as we can edit the variables[02:35:23] <JonathanThompson> Someone was drug-induced for that concept :P[02:35:37] <Advant-> network based version of that game playing over iphone would be cool[02:35:45] <bverre> no doubt[02:35:45] *** oco_ has joined #haiku[02:36:00] <bverre> make it cross platform for all the phone OSs[02:36:18] <JonathanThompson> Can't be done for all of them too readily.[02:36:33] <bverre> bah, use text messages for command control[02:36:36] <JonathanThompson> You could have the backend fit most phones well enough.[02:36:53] <bverre> i wanted to do that with a chess game.[02:37:11] <bverre> maybe I should patent it.... oops, too late[02:37:18] <JonathanThompson> But there's quite a few phones that'll only allow Java, seems Pre´ doesn't really allow other than JavaScript, and iPhone doesn't do Java.[02:37:37] <JonathanThompson> I think the closest thing to a cross-platform phone game would use JavaScript by itself.[02:38:58] <bverre> well, they would need to allow access to text messaging, make text messaging rates not cause bankruptcy, and a few other small consumer friendly tweaks[02:39:10] <JonathanThompson> Keep on dreaming ;)[02:40:40] <bverre> back. well, is the font rendering patent thing being discussed at all?[02:40:52] <bverre> i thought those rights were up in the US soon[02:41:04] <bverre> or as of october the anti aliasing apple patents expired, etc[02:41:07] <JonathanThompson> I think they are now.[02:42:15] <bverre> it should be fixed for a2 .... the fonts looked grotesque (to me) in a1[02:43:00] <bverre> i think ubuntu just always kept it on. and shutleworth has money they could have taken if they wanted it I suppose[02:43:44] <bverre> the pr price would have been huge if they pursued that subject to court[02:44:26] * bverre treads out onto the thin ice[02:44:41] *** triplez has quit IRC[02:49:53] *** oco_ has quit IRC[02:51:27] *** oco has quit IRC[03:00:00] *** redblue has joined #haiku[03:01:28] *** Barrett has quit IRC[03:02:27] *** rxt0 has quit IRC[03:04:10] *** AngrySausage has joined #haiku[03:04:35] *** Advant- has quit IRC[03:05:47] *** curlyman has quit IRC[03:05:48] *** ghane has quit IRC[03:05:48] *** peerkoel has quit IRC[03:05:48] *** Shoozza has quit IRC[03:07:51] *** ghane has joined #haiku[03:08:04] *** curlyman has joined #haiku[03:08:44] *** ghane has quit IRC[03:08:46] *** ghane has joined #haiku[03:08:46] *** peerkoel has joined #haiku[03:08:46] *** Shoozza has joined #haiku[03:08:49] *** ghane has quit IRC[03:08:56] *** ghane has joined #haiku[03:14:39] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[03:15:13] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[03:15:40] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[03:15:50] *** XDS has joined #haiku[03:15:57] <XDS> anyone in here know any VB ?[03:16:12] <XDS> just need to piece together 2 seperate scripts[03:26:00] <XDS> could someone fix this ? http://nopaste.info/d9cd367b12.html[03:29:30] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[03:47:00] *** triplez has joined #haiku[03:49:05] *** triplez has quit IRC[03:49:50] *** alexsuraci has quit IRC[03:52:38] *** triplez has joined #haiku[03:58:47] *** CaptainPike_hero has joined #haiku[04:15:01] *** Advant has joined #Haiku[04:15:13] *** joeyadams has joined #haiku[04:16:17] *** XDS is now known as XDS2009[04:16:51] <XDS2009> Fixed the issue thanks[04:17:56] *** kokito has joined #haiku[04:18:18] <kokito> TGIF[04:19:48] <kokito> what's new folks?[04:24:16] *** triplez has quit IRC[04:24:16] <eisenawesome> next week off[04:24:17] <eisenawesome> :D[04:24:23] *** brrant has joined #haiku[04:29:27] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[04:31:17] *** brrant has quit IRC[04:31:17] *** kokito has quit IRC[04:31:17] *** Barrett has quit IRC[04:31:17] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[04:31:18] *** peerkoel has quit IRC[04:31:18] *** Shoozza has quit IRC[04:31:32] *** Barrett_ has joined #haiku[04:33:34] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[04:33:43] *** XDS2009 has left #haiku[04:35:35] *** brrant has joined #haiku[04:35:35] *** kokito has joined #haiku[04:35:35] *** MegafEee has joined #haiku[04:35:35] *** peerkoel has joined #haiku[04:35:35] *** Shoozza has joined #haiku[04:41:04] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[04:41:16] *** cpr420 has joined #haiku[04:48:56] *** triplez has joined #haiku[04:55:24] *** kokito has left #haiku[05:04:07] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[05:10:07] *** |Qeos| has joined #haiku[05:19:47] *** jmayfield__ has quit IRC[05:28:16] *** fran has joined #haiku[05:28:42] *** Qeos has quit IRC[05:34:22] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[05:43:28] *** alexsuraci has joined #haiku[05:45:28] *** triplez has quit IRC[05:46:20] *** Barrett_ has quit IRC[05:52:09] <helf|laptop> anyone want a "Fujitsu MAN 36GB 10K U160 80pin SCA-2 SCSI Hard Drive"[05:52:20] <helf|laptop> told it works, untested... I have nothing that can take it[05:54:40] *** slaad has quit IRC[05:56:51] <umccullough> yes :)[05:58:01] <helf|laptop> :P[05:58:02] <helf|laptop> movedyet?[05:58:30] <helf|laptop> tell me the address you want it shipped to and ill pop it in the mail[05:59:58] * gtaw taps his foot[06:00:11] <helf|laptop> CRAP[06:00:15] <helf|laptop> :o[06:00:24] <helf|laptop> gtaw, your address still good?[06:00:30] <gtaw> Yeah[06:00:42] <helf|laptop> you need pc133 as well?[06:00:44] <gtaw> No[06:00:45] <helf|laptop> *needed[06:00:53] <gtaw> Guy upgraded to a new system[06:00:55] <umccullough> helf|laptop, i'll pay shipping :)[06:01:00] <helf|laptop> gtaw, oh[06:01:09] <helf|laptop> gtaw, ill fully populate the boards anyways[06:01:11] <helf|laptop> umccullough, ok[06:01:18] <gtaw> Hehe[06:01:23] <helf|laptop> gtaw, sorry :o[06:01:27] <gtaw> It's ok.[06:01:34] <helf|laptop> gtaw, need any other hardware while im at it?[06:01:34] <gtaw> I've been on the road most of the month anywys[06:01:36] <helf|laptop> im cleaning out[06:01:38] <helf|laptop> oh[06:01:54] <gtaw> A hdd would be nice.[06:02:06] <gtaw> I'm going to case them and donate to the senior center[06:02:26] <helf|laptop> ok, one ide drive per board :P[06:02:38] <helf|laptop> i have some 20gb drives to scare[06:02:45] <helf|laptop> i think[06:02:49] <helf|laptop> 6gb drives ok?[06:02:55] <gtaw> That'd be fine[06:03:01] <helf|laptop> okie dokie[06:03:11] <helf|laptop> ill post it Monday with umcculloughs drive[06:03:15] <gtaw> Going to lock them down and make decent web macines[06:03:19] <gtaw> Ok[06:03:28] <helf|laptop> well, they arent all speed demons :P[06:03:43] <helf|laptop> the p4 is decent for surfing. it was stable the two days i messed with it. 1.6ghz[06:03:46] <helf|laptop> 320mb ram iirc[06:04:00] <helf|laptop> the 1.7ghz tualatin is wonderful at surfing still and the other is like a p2-450 or something[06:04:05] <gtaw> Yeah that's what I need.[06:04:20] <gtaw> I'm gonna donate and offer some basic classes for the folks.[06:04:24] <helf|laptop> nice[06:04:39] <helf|laptop> ill fire up all three boards this weekend and make sure they run fine[06:10:57] <helf|laptop> gtaw, does your senior center not have any computers yet?[06:11:14] *** knottnhupfer has joined #haiku[06:12:44] <gtaw> It does but they are like K6-2s[06:13:11] <helf|laptop> oh wow[06:13:31] <helf|laptop> unles they are 550 k6-2s with 256mb of ram or more... that kinda sucks :)[06:13:40] <gtaw> The local computer shop was going to donate some hardware, but the owner is busy getting arrested for beating his wife.[06:14:17] <helf|laptop> :o[06:14:24] <helf|laptop> jeez, what is wrong with people[06:14:34] <gtaw> They are retarded.[06:14:49] <gtaw> Potential candidates for abortion, but hey that's illegal :p[06:14:54] <helf|laptop> heh[06:15:28] <gtaw> Instead they'll just do drugs and drink and deliver a perfectly retarded child that goes on to be a drag on society.[06:15:46] <helf|laptop> :/[06:16:03] * helf|laptop is all for forced sterilization of people convicted of crimes[06:16:16] <helf|laptop> well, depending on the level of the crime, i gues[06:16:19] <helf|laptop> *guess[06:16:23] *** cpr420 has quit IRC[06:16:44] <DraX> i'm all for medical testing on death row inmates[06:16:54] <helf|laptop> sounds good to me[06:17:07] <gtaw> That'd put me out of a job :([06:17:13] *** CaptainPike_hero has quit IRC[06:17:24] <helf|laptop> im all for bringing back gladiatorial fights for deathrow/life sentence inmates :P[06:17:43] <helf|laptop> hey, they are sucking up 30k + a year in taxes, they might as well entertain[06:22:08] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[06:28:40] <helf|laptop> ok, im gone. night. later gtaw[06:28:49] <gtaw> Be good[06:29:54] *** adb has joined #haiku[06:36:20] *** mmadia has quit IRC[06:48:10] *** eisenawesome has quit IRC[06:51:56] *** peerkoel has quit IRC[06:51:56] *** Shoozza has quit IRC[06:51:56] *** brrant has quit IRC[07:03:28] *** kokito has joined #haiku[07:05:11] *** peerkoel has joined #haiku[07:05:23] *** peerkoel has quit IRC[07:05:26] *** brrant has joined #haiku[07:05:26] *** peerkoel has joined #haiku[07:05:26] *** Shoozza has joined #haiku[07:05:28] *** Shoozza has quit IRC[07:05:28] *** peerkoel has quit IRC[07:05:37] *** Shoozza has joined #haiku[07:05:48] *** peerkoel has joined #haiku[07:06:28] *** brrant has quit IRC[07:06:50] *** brrant has joined #haiku[07:08:03] *** aldeck has quit IRC[07:11:29] *** NeonLicht has joined #haiku[07:15:31] *** fran has quit IRC[07:22:09] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[07:22:22] *** gtaw has quit IRC[07:34:17] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[07:36:20] <humdinger> hi VinDuv[07:37:09] <kokito> humdinger![07:37:14] <kokito> VinDuv![07:37:21] <kokito> how are you guys doing? :)[07:37:22] <humdinger> hello kokito[07:37:26] <humdinger> fine fine[07:37:42] <humdinger> some problems of me messing up moving translations around...[07:37:49] <humdinger> :)[07:38:51] <kokito> humdinger: there are worse things in life than moving translations :)[07:39:16] <humdinger> and heavier...[07:39:20] <kokito> man, you are up pretty early for a Saturday humdinger :)[07:39:25] <humdinger> gotto watch my back[07:39:30] <kokito> hehe[07:39:34] <humdinger> always, always :)[07:41:47] <humdinger> kokito: Mozilla budget -> http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/documents/mf-2008-audited-financial-statement.pdf[07:42:25] <humdinger> Now, can you imagine 30,000,000 US-$ per year for software development. If Haiku had 10% on that...[07:44:18] <kokito> one can always dream :)[07:44:50] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[07:45:09] <humdinger> Of course you'd also need royalties coming in at over 80,000,000...[07:46:33] <kokito> I once heard that a big part of the mozilla revenue comes from google searches initiated from the browser[07:47:23] <humdinger> correct. That's the main part of the 80 million royalties.[07:48:02] <humdinger> We could contact Google, see wht they pay if we put google as our standard search engine into our WebKit browser...[07:48:16] <kokito> why not on bezillabrowser too?[07:48:18] <humdinger> They probably give us....[07:48:21] <humdinger> ... permission[07:48:39] <humdinger> :)[07:49:15] <kokito> I think it is worth to explore[07:49:48] <humdinger> Maybe. I'm not sure our web impact is yet on the radar.[07:50:26] <kokito> well, let's say that every penny counts :)[07:51:14] *** joeyadams has quit IRC[07:53:37] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[07:54:25] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[07:55:58] * JonathanThompson counts his pennies, names them one by one....[07:56:07] <JonathanThompson> You know what? They all have the same name!!![07:58:42] <humdinger> JonathanThompson -> http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/people_sound_effects/applause-4.mp3[07:59:36] <kokito> anyone remembers what the URL was to the alpha 1 download reports that Ryan had put somewhere on the web?[07:59:56] * JonathanThompson wonders what the applause was all about ;)[08:00:49] <humdinger> kokito: http://ryanleavengood.com/haiku/downloadresults.php[08:01:11] <humdinger> don't konw if it's still counting...[08:01:28] <kokito> from the grand total, it looks like it is[08:02:40] *** ^kenhoob-it1 has joined #haiku[08:16:30] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[08:22:44] *** devine has joined #haiku[08:22:53] *** devine is now known as DDevine[08:26:54] *** redblue has quit IRC[08:29:05] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[08:33:00] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[08:39:54] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[08:40:08] <Begasus> moin[08:42:52] <kokito> hey old man :P[08:44:06] <Begasus> hey kokito !![08:44:19] <Begasus> joined you in being a grandparent now ;)[08:44:47] <kokito> congratulations Begasus![08:45:07] <Begasus> thnx ;)[08:45:27] <kokito> boy or girl?[08:45:36] <Begasus> daughter gave birth to a beutifull you girl (premature but doing well atm)[08:45:45] <kokito> cool :)[08:46:27] <Begasus> to bad she had to stay in a box for a while still but we'll make up later when she gets home[08:46:31] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[08:46:33] <kokito> here are my two granddaugthers: http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs071.snc3/13842_172210858315_570733315_2971828_4367564_n.jpg[08:47:11] <Begasus> http://begasus.blogspot.com/[08:47:22] <Begasus> there you can find a few pics of the litle girl ;)[08:47:36] <Begasus> how old are they now kokito ?[08:47:39] <kokito> wow![08:47:44] <Begasus> look nice already![08:47:46] <kokito> Begasus: 5 and 3[08:48:04] <Begasus> cool[08:48:15] <Begasus> an age that you can really start to play with them[08:48:27] <kokito> yes, it's not getting to be more fun :)[08:48:54] <kokito> I really enjoy being a grandpa: you can enjoy the kids w/o any of the responsibilities :P[08:48:56] <Begasus> yep ... on the other hand ... the hard part isn't for us anymore ;)[08:49:03] <kokito> right :)[08:49:03] <Begasus> right! ;)[08:49:26] <kokito> and if you get tired, you can always tell then "now go with your mother" :P[08:49:30] *** triplez has joined #haiku[08:49:34] <Begasus> hehe[08:49:47] <kokito> which I used to do with my kids, but did not work as well :P[08:49:48] <Begasus> on the other hand ... got my hands full with the dogs here now ;)[08:50:23] *** DoctorDan has joined #haiku[08:50:58] <DoctorDan> what is this OS[08:51:01] <Begasus> cool .... scummvm 1.0.0 is released and available for download (also Haiku)[08:51:01] <DoctorDan> Haiku[08:51:06] <Begasus> hi DoctorDan[08:51:09] <DoctorDan> hi[08:51:24] <DoctorDan> Begasus.. Haiku is like Windows ? i mean GUI[08:51:30] <DoctorDan> or txt base[08:51:32] <Begasus> a revival of the best OS there has been 'BeOS' ;)[08:51:44] <Begasus> GUI but very different then Windows[08:51:44] <DDevine> DoctorDan: It is graphical, and it is like BeOS.[08:51:56] <DoctorDan> BeOS ? i dont know about BeOs[08:52:05] <DoctorDan> its like a Linux[08:52:08] <DDevine> DoctorDan: http://haiku-os.org[08:52:21] <DoctorDan> i am on the website .. tell me its like a Linux[08:52:41] <DoctorDan> r u using Haiku[08:52:46] <DDevine> DoctorDan: Its not like Linux. But it is Open Source like linux and has some of the same software in common (BASH, firefox etc.)[08:52:56] <DoctorDan> i see[08:52:57] <Begasus> it's quit different then Linux although Haiku has some GNU software included also[08:53:09] <DoctorDan> can i install Haiku and windows .. ( dual boot)[08:53:15] <Begasus> yep[08:53:17] <DoctorDan> ok[08:53:27] <Begasus> running tripple boot with Windows/Debian/Haiku here[08:53:37] <DoctorDan> first i install windows and thn Haiku[08:53:46] <DoctorDan> Debian i have in my notebook[08:53:53] <Begasus> you can always start the ISO in LiveCD mode to check it out[08:54:02] <DoctorDan> ok[08:54:24] <DDevine> It runs very well off a USB stick too if you have a spare 1GB USB stick.[08:54:26] <DoctorDan> and what about builtin pakgs ? like python, perl[08:54:37] <Begasus> always nice to have a check without installing ;)[08:54:42] <DoctorDan> i see[08:54:44] <Begasus> those are included iirc[08:54:55] <DDevine> DoctorDan: Yep, python and perl are there.[08:56:15] <DoctorDan> ok gud[08:56:25] <Begasus> pretty small and slick OS in terms of todays OS's ;)[08:56:32] <DoctorDan> i am asking because i want to use my proggy.. its on perl[08:56:38] <DDevine> Just boot it up and have a look. If you can virtualize it in VirtualBox that is probably the easiest way to play with it.[08:56:47] <DoctorDan> ok[08:56:48] <Begasus> depends on what else it needs[08:56:55] <DoctorDan> lemme doenload it first[08:57:26] <DDevine> All the python modules I have needed work perfectly in Haiku, not sure how different Perl is. Depends on what the program does I guess.[08:57:46] <Lelldorin1> good moening[08:57:50] <Begasus> Lelldorin1, ![08:57:50] <NeonLicht> I double boot my Asus EEEPC with Debian GNU/Linux and Haiku[08:58:00] <Lelldorin1> Begasus !!![08:58:00] <Begasus> allo allo! ;)[08:58:16] <Begasus> hya NeonLicht ;)[08:58:24] <DoctorDan> which one should i download .. because i want to write it on the CD after downloading[08:58:34] <DoctorDan> ISO VM Raw[08:58:38] <Begasus> for a CD the best thing woud be the raw one[08:58:39] <kokito> DoctorDan: ISO[08:58:43] <NeonLicht> hi, Begasus :-)[08:58:47] <DoctorDan> ISO[08:58:48] <Begasus> ah nm ;)[08:58:49] <DoctorDan> okies[08:59:08] <Begasus> raw one was for qemu and stuff right kokito ?[08:59:12] <kokito> if you are going to burn on a CD, download the ISO[08:59:25] <kokito> Begasus: I believe so (but I am not sure)[08:59:36] <Lelldorin1> yes the iso is bootabler ansd you can run it from cd[08:59:39] <Begasus> someone should write a nice GUI for qemu on Haiku ;)[08:59:45] <DoctorDan> size is not define there[08:59:49] <kokito> I think the raw also works to DD to a USB stick[08:59:56] <DoctorDan> ok[09:00:14] <DoctorDan> who is someone why not me or u[09:01:07] <Begasus> getting in the spirit of haiku's? ;)[09:01:27] *** humdinger has quit IRC[09:02:11] <kokito> can you believe this? > http://www.osnews.com/story/22514/Nobel_Peace_Prize_to_Linus_Torvalds_[09:03:40] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[09:04:06] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[09:05:25] <Begasus> although he paved the way for lot's of things ... this is going a bit out of range ;)[09:06:04] <kokito> and you are being diplomatic there Begasus :)[09:06:10] <Begasus> try to be ;)[09:06:37] <Begasus> on the other hand ... they can't keep picking up mother theresa's :P[09:06:52] <Begasus> the pound isn't that deep anymore ;)[09:07:23] <kokito> ok, time to watch sumo now[09:07:28] <kokito> good night folks[09:07:31] <Begasus> enjoy![09:07:40] <kokito> congratulations again Begasus, and welcome to the club! ;)[09:07:46] *** kokito has left #haiku[09:08:59] <DDevine> Yeah teh Linus thing is funny.[09:09:16] <DDevine> Even Linus says he is a bastard.[09:10:22] <DDevine> I liked the comment on OSnews that said "if they gave the prize to Richard Stallman he would insist on it being called the GNU/Peace prize."[09:10:59] <Begasus> ;)[09:12:11] <DDevine> "If we give the Nobel Peace Prize to Richard Stallman, he's going to insist that it be renamed the GNU/Nobel Peace Prize. 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official repo[13:14:41] <StreaK|ON> biniary[13:14:59] *** PasNox has quit IRC[13:15:30] <MrSunshine__> haiku is a moving target as long as we do not have real releases .. sure alpha1 ... thats not moving anymore so .. but if you go trunk stuff will break now and then =)[13:15:39] *** nhc has joined #haiku[13:15:42] <aldeck> StreaK|ON gcc4?[13:16:14] <StreaK|ON> nope.. gcc2h[13:16:40] <aldeck> and scumm is gcc4?[13:16:43] <StreaK|ON> and on builds < 34098 scummvm works[13:16:50] <StreaK|ON> no.. gcc2[13:16:59] <aldeck> ah[13:17:01] <StreaK|ON> scummgcc2 [ beos ver from repo ][13:17:14] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[13:17:26] <aldeck> no idea then :)[13:17:31] <StreaK|ON> original from scummvm repo[13:18:52] <StreaK|ON> anyway.. ill test it on newest gcc2h nightlies and check if the situation occurs[13:19:11] <aldeck> if it was compiled for R5, must be the R5 bin compat that is broken somehow[13:19:40] <aldeck> you could look at the changes to BDirectWindow in the source browser[13:19:54] 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how's it going?[16:32:27] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[16:33:07] <mmadia> it's going. how's your granddaughter?[16:33:17] <Begasus> playing jojo ;)[16:33:51] <Begasus> she's being pretty active and with that her weight goes a bit up and down ;)[16:34:03] <Begasus> but other then that she's doing great so far[16:37:23] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[16:38:37] *** monsoon has quit IRC[16:39:23] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[16:43:28] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34172 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/packagefs/ (10 files): (log message trimmed)[16:43:28] <CIA-69> * Made PackageDomain BReferenceable.[16:43:28] <CIA-69> * LeafNode/Directory: We make sure that the added PackageNode with the newest[16:43:28] <CIA-69> modified time is always at the head of the list. This is the package node[16:43:28] <CIA-69> whose stat, attribute data and, in case of non-directory nodes, also content[16:43:31] <CIA-69> data will be returned. This results in a well-defined algorithm what happens[16:43:33] <CIA-69> when multiple directories contain the same file -- the newest file wins.[16:44:54] *** [r4]_ has joined #haiku[16:45:40] *** Kroki`blit is now known as Kroki[16:45:42] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[16:49:25] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[16:49:50] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[16:53:06] *** HaikuBot has joined #haiku[16:53:12] <HaikuBot> greet[16:53:26] <HaikuBot> There drivers fro printers?[16:55:09] <leszek> HaikuBot, not that I am aware of[16:55:18] <leszek> but try searching on haikuware and bebits.com[16:57:29] <mmadia> doesn't haiku come with PCL5, PCL6, and Canon LIPS 3 & 4 ?[16:57:53] <mmadia> & PostScript compatible[16:59:19] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[17:01:08] <HaikuBot> hmm... will try.[17:03:12] <CIA-69> jackburton * r34173 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (8 files):[17:03:12] <CIA-69> Made the Find Window a bit wider by default, moved some functions around,[17:03:12] <CIA-69> got rid of MenuUtil.h/cpp.[17:03:12] <CIA-69> Some style change.[17:03:25] *** sprma has joined #haiku[17:03:48] <HaikuBot> i have hp laserjet 1020[17:06:52] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[17:07:19] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[17:07:44] *** pfoetche1 has quit IRC[17:07:47] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[17:08:08] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[17:08:15] <CIA-69> jackburton * r34174 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (Jamfile PrefHandler.h):[17:08:24] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[17:10:52] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[17:13:45] <CIA-69> jackburton * r34175 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (9 files): Renamed "Coding" to "Encoding" and adjusted other files accordingly[17:19:03] *** phalax has quit IRC[17:20:40] *** [r4]_ has quit IRC[17:21:52] *** phalax has joined #haiku[17:37:26] *** tombhad-AC has joined #haiku[17:37:44] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[17:39:01] *** killermouse0 has joined #haiku[17:46:29] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[17:51:39] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[17:51:46] <GeneralMaximus> hi :)[17:57:49] *** leszek has quit IRC[18:01:44] *** Barrett has quit IRC[18:02:26] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[18:07:47] *** oco has joined #haiku[18:08:30] *** crash_ has joined #haiku[18:08:40] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[18:10:11] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[18:14:23] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:17:03] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:18:25] <CIA-69> jackburton * r34176 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (PrefHandler.cpp PrefHandler.h PrefWindow.cpp TermWindow.cpp):[18:18:25] <CIA-69> Added a method to PrefHandler to save the default settings, and used it[18:18:25] <CIA-69> in TermWindow and PrefWindow. Added patch by adparadox which implements[18:18:25] <CIA-69> menuitem and shortcut to close the active tab (slightly modified by me).[18:18:25] <CIA-69> I went with COMMAND-SHIFT-W instead of COMMAND-W.[18:18:28] <CIA-69> This fixes bug #3898.[18:22:50] *** Barrett has quit IRC[18:22:51] *** Barrett_ has joined #haiku[18:30:48] *** markos__ has joined #haiku[18:31:09] *** markos_ is now known as Guest46801[18:31:18] *** markos__ is now known as markos_[18:38:45] *** Guest46801 has quit IRC[18:44:53] *** eisenawesome has joined #haiku[18:47:02] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[18:49:31] *** Kroki has quit IRC[18:49:51] *** Kroki has joined #haiku[18:56:41] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:56:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[19:11:42] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:12:57] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34177 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/syslog_daemon/syslog_output.cpp:[19:12:57] <CIA-69> * Fixed syslog permissions.[19:12:57] <CIA-69> * Some cleanup.[19:14:24] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[19:16:46] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[19:18:17] *** tombhad-AC has quit IRC[19:19:20] *** tombhad-AC has joined #haiku[19:20:14] *** bverre has quit IRC[19:26:13] *** J-Ho has joined #haiku[19:27:57] <Begasus> cya peeps[19:28:18] *** Begasus has quit IRC[19:32:23] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[19:32:30] *** tombhad-AC has quit IRC[19:40:11] *** hagna_ has joined #haiku[19:40:35] <hagna_> no cdrom here can I make a bootable usb stick?[19:40:54] <hagna_> for installing haiku?[19:41:46] *** hevien has joined #haiku[19:41:57] <OmniMancer> yes[19:43:22] *** hevien has quit IRC[19:44:07] *** hevien has joined #haiku[19:45:45] *** hevien has quit IRC[19:45:49] <umccullough> http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/making_haiku_usb_stick[19:45:53] *** demetrio has joined #haiku[19:46:13] <umccullough> get your raw alpha images here: http://www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku[19:48:02] *** ^kenhoob-it1 has joined #haiku[19:53:30] <hagna_> umccullough: thanks I should have read it more closely[19:59:24] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[20:01:46] *** wackymacs has joined #haiku[20:04:25] *** Protonux has joined #haiku[20:08:36] *** wackymacs has quit IRC[20:09:31] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[20:09:43] *** joshc_ has joined #haiku[20:09:45] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[20:10:01] *** joshc_ has left #haiku[20:11:38] *** joshc_ has joined #haiku[20:11:56] <CIA-69> jackburton * r34178 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (AppearPrefView.cpp TermView.cpp TermView.h TermWindow.cpp):[20:11:56] <CIA-69> Removed dependency to the global gMouseClipboard from TermView. Now there's[20:11:56] <CIA-69> a SetMouseClipboard() method to set one (defaults to be_clipboard, maybe[20:11:56] <CIA-69> it's not a good idea and should default to NULL instead).[20:15:30] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[20:15:55] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[20:24:26] *** jer has joined #haiku[20:25:03] <jer> anyone here been able to get the haiku boot loader to see the volume on an eeepc by chance?[20:26:03] <eisenawesome> if bootman isn't working, just use grub[20:26:28] <eisenawesome> and/or wait for someone who knows shit to answer[20:27:17] <jer> sure, and i will use grub as soon as i can figure out how to get it onto the box =][20:27:54] *** leszek has joined #haiku[20:29:28] *** triplez has joined #haiku[20:29:41] <OmniMancer> you use linux to put grub on it :D[20:32:43] <helf> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot/Super-Grub-Disk-8071.shtml[20:32:47] <helf> that should let you install grub[20:40:01] *** brrant has quit IRC[20:40:59] <jer> OmniMancer, don't have linux on it =] that's the problem[20:41:06] *** cnuke_ is now known as cnuke[20:41:13] *** harolddong has joined #haiku[20:41:23] <jer> and it's an eeepc so no floppy, no cdrom =][20:41:28] <jer> but thanks for the advice[20:42:17] *** leszek has quit IRC[20:44:58] *** kitallis has quit IRC[20:48:03] *** The123king1 has joined #haiku[20:49:30] *** joshc_ is now known as joshc[21:00:23] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[21:03:18] *** raichoo_ has joined #haiku[21:05:04] *** The123king has quit IRC[21:11:46] *** lstarnes has quit IRC[21:17:46] *** lstarnes has joined #haiku[21:18:15] *** raichoo has quit IRC[21:18:18] *** raichoo_ is now known as raichoo[21:25:04] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[21:25:33] *** haiku has joined #haiku[21:32:09] *** hagna_ has quit IRC[21:35:16] *** haiku has quit IRC[21:38:01] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[21:41:27] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[21:41:35] *** hagna_ has joined #haiku[21:47:19] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[21:50:46] *** wildur has quit IRC[21:51:23] *** hagna_ has quit IRC[21:51:24] *** phalax has quit IRC[21:52:44] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[21:54:05] *** phalax has joined #haiku[22:01:14] *** bverre has joined #haiku[22:03:58] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[22:06:51] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[22:11:11] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[22:12:55] *** tigerdog has joined #haiku[22:22:12] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:24:49] <mmadia> hi tigerdog[22:26:01] <helf> woohoo! im getting a replacement motherboard for my vw320[22:26:43] <mmadia> vw320?[22:27:17] <helf> be nice if haiku had support for the cobalt graphics and the ARC firmware[22:27:23] <helf> mmadia, SGI x86 workstation[22:27:57] <HeTo> helf: one of those that lack a PC BIOS and run a modified NT?[22:28:14] <HeTo> or one of those newer ones that are just PCs?[22:28:21] <helf> http://www.crimsonwolf.org/dagdamor/images/sgi-vw.jpg[22:28:55] *** nhc has quit IRC[22:28:55] <helf> HeTo, ones that lack a normal bios[22:29:12] <helf> HeTo, NT isnt really.. modified.. it has a custom HAL to support the machines[22:29:19] <helf> windows 2000 runs fine on them too[22:29:44] <helf> Mine was dual p3-600 katmais, 640mb ram, 36gb scsi with windows 2k pro sp4 before the motherboard kicked the bucket[22:30:31] *** raichoo_ has joined #haiku[22:30:56] <helf> http://www.crimsonwolf.org/dagdamor/newsgi-spec.html[22:30:58] <helf> hardware info[22:31:48] <helf> Its OpenGL performance is quite good. 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