November 19, 2009 
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November 19, 2009 [00:04:08] *** saivert has quit IRC[00:05:57] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[00:07:23] *** brrant has quit IRC[00:10:41] *** [r4] has quit IRC[00:10:42] *** saivert has joined #haiku[00:10:45] *** mmadia has quit IRC[00:14:05] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[00:15:23] *** PasNox has quit IRC[00:15:54] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[00:15:57] *** xvedejas has quit IRC[00:17:56] *** markos_ has quit IRC[00:22:13] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[00:25:00] <CIA-69> stippi * r34120 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/mediaplayer/ (MainApp.cpp MainApp.h MainWin.cpp):[00:25:00] <CIA-69> * Fixed some regressions I introduced. The video is now correctly layouted[00:25:00] <CIA-69> again. Bute this commit seems to make the old bug that some parts of the GUI[00:25:00] <CIA-69> are black much more likely. Will look into it tomorrow.[00:25:00] <CIA-69> * The calculations to move the window wholy into the screen frame were buggy.[00:25:53] *** prOSy has quit IRC[00:27:58] *** petterhj has quit IRC[00:29:05] *** Barrett has quit IRC[00:48:18] *** dru_ has quit IRC[00:55:15] *** Nies has joined #haiku[01:00:27] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:03:15] *** Andrius has quit IRC[01:06:44] *** brrant has joined #haiku[01:13:25] *** impulse_ has quit IRC[01:16:15] *** {V} has quit IRC[01:22:35] *** Yaroze2 is now known as Yaroze[01:38:56] *** impulse_ has joined #haiku[01:40:01] *** gravaera has joined #haiku[01:51:18] *** nOgAnOo has joined #haiku[02:03:49] *** amuck_ has quit IRC[02:04:28] *** ari2-free has quit IRC[02:05:58] *** adamk has quit IRC[02:06:05] *** fly-away has quit IRC[02:11:52] *** redblue has joined #haiku[02:17:32] *** triplez has quit IRC[02:25:08] *** oco has quit IRC[02:26:42] *** Nies has quit IRC[02:33:58] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[02:39:46] *** triplez has joined #haiku[02:51:05] *** hoelzro has joined #haiku[02:51:26] *** noisetonepause1 has quit IRC[03:10:22] <CIA-69> scottmc * r504 /haikuporter/trunk/haikuporter: Fixed a couple of typos, which caused the licenses code to not work right.[03:19:20] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[03:30:13] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[03:39:44] *** wildur has quit IRC[03:43:54] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[03:46:03] <CIA-69> scottmc * r505 /haikuports/trunk/dev-cpp/mxml/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Updated .bep and patch for mxml-2.6 from michaelvoliveira with some minor changes by me. Works on gcc2 now.[04:00:03] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[04:00:25] *** joeyadams has joined #haiku[04:00:48] <CIA-69> scottmc * r506 /haikuports/trunk/sys-devel/libtool/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Added .OPD and updated patch for libtool 2.2.6b[04:04:30] *** Syn- has quit IRC[04:12:36] *** [Katisu]_m has joined #haiku[04:18:53] *** [Katisu] has quit IRC[04:18:53] *** [Katisu]_m is now known as [Katisu][04:22:31] *** redblue has quit IRC[04:30:22] *** redblue has joined #haiku[04:32:08] *** joeyadams has quit IRC[04:47:20] *** gravaera has quit IRC[04:52:41] *** gobgob has joined #haiku[04:53:14] *** {V} has joined #haiku[05:00:31] *** hoelzro has quit IRC[05:02:50] <CIA-69> augiedoggie * r507 /haikuports/trunk/media-gfx/graphviz/ (patches/graphviz-2.24.patch licenses licenses/CPL v1.0):[05:02:50] <CIA-69> Updated graphviz patch to use the new font locations.[05:02:50] <CIA-69> Added license file for package building.[05:04:36] *** phalax_ has quit IRC[05:05:06] *** phalax_ has joined #haiku[05:19:42] *** dwarfyperson has joined #haiku[05:51:31] *** cpr420 has quit IRC[05:53:43] <dwarfyperson> I want the alpha 1 cd now...[05:54:00] <dwarfyperson> If i had twenty bucks to throw around i would so get it[05:54:11] <umccullough> well, you could burn your own ;)[05:54:17] <dwarfyperson> true[05:54:20] <dwarfyperson> but I can't do cd labels[05:54:24] <umccullough> heh[05:54:40] <umccullough> we should make a lightscribe-friendly label for people to make their own[05:54:51] <umccullough> especially for handing out to others[05:55:02] <dwarfyperson> yeah, that'd be awesome[05:56:49] *** DuvJones has joined #haiku[06:02:07] <JonathanThompson> dwarfyperson: find someone else that owns a CD-printing printer :)[06:02:14] *** brrant has quit IRC[06:02:16] <JonathanThompson> Become their friends, at least long enough to get that done ;)[06:03:11] <dwarfyperson> sounds like work[06:03:42] <JonathanThompson> Well, I guess there's no advice I can give you that won't sound like work ;)[06:04:07] <dwarfyperson> damn[06:04:14] <dwarfyperson> i was hoping the cd label fairy would show up[06:04:35] <JonathanThompson> Yes, well, perhaps they will, but... they'll give you a label you have to carefully apply onto the CD....[06:04:41] <JonathanThompson> Wait, that still sounds like work :D[06:06:30] <dwarfyperson> :([06:06:49] <JonathanThompson> Face it: you're doomed to be disappointed perpetually :P[06:07:44] <dwarfyperson> I know[06:07:48] <dwarfyperson> such is my existence[06:08:43] *** nOgAnOo has quit IRC[06:09:52] <SiCuTDeUx> umccullough, i bought a Lightscribe burner lastweek[06:10:06] <SiCuTDeUx> umccullough, doesn't even burn dvd's on linux[06:10:14] <SiCuTDeUx> growisofs problem... i dont know...[06:10:34] <SiCuTDeUx> since i stop using windows 6 years ago...[06:11:08] <dwarfyperson> you expect something using a proprietary interface like lightscribe to work under linux?[06:11:10] <dwarfyperson> :P[06:11:17] * JonathanThompson laughs[06:11:49] <JonathanThompson> Not enough Linux users for them to consider it worth bothering with, besides who knows how quickly driver interfaces change :P[06:12:31] <SiCuTDeUx> dwarfyperson, i dont care about the lightscribe... i just want to burn a damn dvd video disk....[06:12:40] <SiCuTDeUx> hahahaha[06:12:52] <JonathanThompson> http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx[06:13:00] <dwarfyperson> ohoho[06:13:02] <dwarfyperson> it does work[06:13:05] <JonathanThompson> Well, guess I was wrong :P[06:13:12] <dwarfyperson> well bend me a chicken and call me aunt betty[06:13:27] * JonathanThompson bends dwarfyperson and from now on will call him aunt betty[06:13:37] <SiCuTDeUx> OMG... i cant hear this![06:13:45] <JonathanThompson> Er, bends him a chicken :P[06:13:46] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[06:13:50] <SiCuTDeUx> latin American guys are killing songs over tv[06:14:01] <SiCuTDeUx> *Latin American Idols...[06:19:33] <JonathanThompson> I meant to bend him a chicken, not him :D[06:19:42] *** mantis_ has joined #haiku[06:19:47] <dwarfyperson> I'm glad[06:19:52] <dwarfyperson> I don't respond well to bending[06:20:38] <JonathanThompson> Perhaps I had bent chickens on the mind, and was thinking everyone knew about it already,since I saw this video: http://gizmodo.com/5407590/the-most-upsetting-video-of-an-automatic-chicken-plucker-you-will-see-today&autoplay=true[06:21:09] <JonathanThompson> (And yes, in the process of plucking, that chicken really gets bent!)[06:21:20] <dwarfyperson> I get the feeling I can do without watching it[06:21:21] <dwarfyperson> :P[06:21:45] <JonathanThompson> But you should know how your food becomes your food![06:22:07] <JonathanThompson> Don't worry: the chicken is already dead before they throw it in :P[06:22:51] <JonathanThompson> And if it wasn't before that point, I'm thinking it wouldn't take long.[06:23:22] <dwarfyperson> well[06:23:30] <dwarfyperson> by that point it's already been beheaded and boiled[06:23:33] * JonathanThompson wonders if they do something similar with cattle they get the leather from[06:23:53] <JonathanThompson> Actually, I don't think it's been beheaded OR boiled in this video.[06:24:55] * JonathanThompson thinks it reminds him much of a rock grinder designed for chickens[06:24:58] <dwarfyperson> how'd they kill it then?[06:25:11] <JonathanThompson> Slit its throat or break its neck, I'm not sure.[06:25:21] <JonathanThompson> But you still see the crest on the head.[06:25:31] <JonathanThompson> Feet and legs are still intact.[06:25:53] <JonathanThompson> Yeah, throat slitting.[06:26:12] <dwarfyperson> fun stuff[06:26:22] <JonathanThompson> Someone's got to do it, right?[06:26:35] <dwarfyperson> indeed[06:26:37] <mantis_> turkey talk?[06:26:40] <JonathanThompson> In a morbid way, it's rather fascinating.[06:26:46] <JonathanThompson> Chicken talk :P[06:26:59] <mantis_> "No one here but us chickens![06:27:08] <JonathanThompson> Though I'd imagine a larger machine would work for turkeys, too.[06:27:27] <JonathanThompson> It'd sure beat plucking them by hand.[06:27:34] <fran> I killed a rabbit, and it's not an easy topic...[06:27:58] <mantis_> Question ab Haiku - what is the momentum of the project in general? Is it gaining momentum, collecting dust, or??[06:28:04] <JonathanThompson> In a minute and a half, that chicken is quite plucked.[06:28:09] <JonathanThompson> Yes.[06:28:10] <fran> you grab them from the feet and basically cut the neck with a knife[06:28:21] <mantis_> I use duct tape to remove the feathers[06:28:29] <mantis_> it works fast[06:28:32] <JonathanThompson> That's an interesting method.[06:28:35] <JonathanThompson> How fast is that?[06:28:43] <mantis_> I can get it to the other side[06:28:50] * JonathanThompson wonders if that's what duck tape was designed for originally[06:28:57] <JonathanThompson> :P[06:29:08] <mantis_> actually, you are thinking of duck tape[06:29:13] <mantis_> :-)[06:29:24] <JonathanThompson> And then there's duct tape.... not to be confused ;)[06:29:31] <mantis_> completely differenyt[06:29:58] <mantis_> do you have Haiku installed?[06:30:20] <JonathanThompson> I myself haven't installed a recent Haiku in a very long time.[06:30:32] <JonathanThompson> How long? The last time I installed it, VM was.... MIA.[06:30:42] <JonathanThompson> That is, for swapping to drive.[06:31:07] <dwarfyperson> last I had installed was a few revs after a1 a month or two ago[06:31:15] <dwarfyperson> I've been taking a break from oss though[06:31:22] <mantis_> since I came from Irix land, I was wondering if this projust is still gaining momentum or if it fell off a cliff like duck tape?[06:31:23] <dwarfyperson> and my computer that i can do this shit on broke[06:31:27] <mantis_> project[06:32:03] <dwarfyperson> however[06:32:09] <JonathanThompson> It's still going forward, I think gaining momentum.[06:32:12] <dwarfyperson> last I noticed, the project was doing swimmingly[06:32:28] <JonathanThompson> The commit comments are very interesting to read.[06:32:38] * JonathanThompson reads most of them[06:32:46] <mantis_> interesting...[06:33:13] <JonathanThompson> Features get added, bugs get fixed, new bugs get added: what you'd expect ;)[06:33:21] <JonathanThompson> But, a lot of check-ins.[06:34:08] <JonathanThompson> As long as you get involved with the expectation that any data you have on the partitions accessible via Haiku are forfeit, you'll be happy :)[06:34:18] <dwarfyperson> indeed[06:34:33] <JonathanThompson> While it seems to be getting more and more stable, you'll still see the occasional commits mentioning new FS bugs fixed.[06:34:34] <dwarfyperson> I like how originally data corruption was supposed to be out by a1[06:34:35] <dwarfyperson> :P[06:34:48] <mantis_> so in summary from those reads, can you tell me what is the intent of the OS? I want parallel proc / multi threaded...[06:34:59] <JonathanThompson> dwarfyperson: may I remind you of the part where I mention new bugs get added? :D[06:35:07] <dwarfyperson> iirc haiku is designed from the ground up with SMP[06:35:13] *** DuvJones has quit IRC[06:35:16] <JonathanThompson> Yes, you'll get that, mantis_ whether you like it or not.[06:35:44] <JonathanThompson> In fact, you can't create a GUI app with < 2 threads, period.[06:35:52] <JonathanThompson> (Not a native app)[06:36:33] * MrSunshine hopes accessing his old port of ldc/tango will push him in the right direction to make the new port work :P[06:37:05] <JonathanThompson> report the old port to be the new port to report for the port :)[06:37:05] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[06:37:51] <dwarfyperson> tl;dr port port port port port port port[06:39:05] <mantis_> leo laporte[06:39:54] *** brrant has joined #haiku[06:40:18] <mantis_> good night, all[06:40:25] <dwarfyperson> have fun[06:40:28] <JonathanThompson> Seeya, mantis_[06:43:37] <MrSunshine> JonathanThompson, well th eold port is FAR to old to be usable more then giving me pointers =)[06:50:43] * helf|laptop yawns[06:56:08] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[07:13:16] *** kr1stof has left #haiku[07:16:52] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[07:28:16] *** Captain_Pike has joined #haiku[07:33:37] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[07:41:57] *** knottnhupfer has joined #haiku[07:50:11] *** bryguy[lap] has quit IRC[08:00:41] *** dwarfyperson has quit IRC[08:02:37] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[08:05:01] *** redblue has quit IRC[08:05:39] *** redblue has joined #haiku[08:11:19] *** bryguy[lap] has joined #haiku[08:25:43] *** jmayfield__ has joined #haiku[08:27:37] *** jmayfield_ has quit IRC[08:28:18] *** jmayfield__ has quit IRC[08:29:22] *** joshc has joined #haiku[08:30:11] *** bryguy[lap] has quit IRC[08:33:59] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[08:35:30] <CIA-69> augiedoggie * r508 /haikuports/trunk/media-gfx/graphviz/patches/graphviz-2.24.patch: Updated graphviz patch to use a more dynamic font path setting during the configure step.[08:36:10] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[08:36:34] *** Andrius has quit IRC[08:37:56] *** The123king has joined #haiku[08:38:28] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34121 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Extended the public I/O request C API.[08:38:42] *** ari2-free has joined #haiku[08:39:42] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34122 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/device_manager/IORequest.cpp: Removed obsolete uncommented function stubs.[08:48:22] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[08:51:12] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[08:52:32] *** bryguy[lap] has joined #haiku[08:56:00] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[08:59:40] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[09:06:52] *** fhein has joined #haiku[09:09:19] *** wildur has quit IRC[09:09:47] *** mmadia has quit IRC[09:14:13] *** bwilliams__ has joined #haiku[09:15:49] *** bryguy[lap] has quit IRC[09:22:06] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[09:22:14] *** atomozero has quit IRC[09:22:18] *** Andrius has quit IRC[09:23:29] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[09:33:29] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[09:34:40] *** joshc has quit IRC[09:35:04] *** triplez has quit IRC[09:35:31] *** triplez has joined #haiku[09:36:13] *** knottnhupfer has quit IRC[09:40:04] *** triplez_ has joined #haiku[09:40:41] *** yamokidzu-it has joined #haiku[09:41:07] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34123 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/device_manager/io_requests.cpp: Added missing "static". 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We need to know relative to the views themselves. This[11:07:21] <CIA-69> fixes the video view being visible despite audio-only content.[11:09:56] *** binaryimpulse has quit IRC[11:11:16] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[11:13:50] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[11:14:19] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[11:18:09] *** triplez_ has joined #haiku[11:22:06] *** prOSy has quit IRC[11:25:26] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[11:27:42] *** triplez has quit IRC[11:27:42] *** triplez_ is now known as triplez[11:34:46] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[11:42:14] <CIA-69> axeld * r34130 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (5 files):[11:42:14] <CIA-69> * Bitmaps and pictures now maintain their client reference independently;[11:42:14] <CIA-69> clients can no longer release more references than they own.[11:45:54] *** Kroki has quit IRC[11:55:32] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[11:59:22] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[12:03:59] *** rennj has quit IRC[12:07:20] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[12:07:54] *** rennj has joined #haiku[12:11:48] *** petterhj has joined 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mmu_man has quit IRC[13:27:21] <CIA-69> stippi * r34132 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/mediaplayer/ (14 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)[13:27:21] <CIA-69> * Made opening playlist items asynchronous (in the Controller thread).[13:27:21] <CIA-69> * Resolved TODO: Use the existing "FileChanged" notification in the main[13:27:21] <CIA-69> window to adopt the UI to the currently playing item.[13:27:21] <CIA-69> * When opening a file takes some time, the window is now free to start hidden[13:27:24] <CIA-69> and setup a message runner to unhide it after 150 msecs.[13:27:26] <CIA-69> * When launching MediaPlayer with files, the 150 msecs delay is used to[13:30:58] <HaikuBot> fyysik: хелло[13:34:14] *** fhein has joined #haiku[13:36:07] <brobostigon> is it possible to dd the haiku raw image, to a partition,?[13:36:34] *** triplez has quit IRC[13:36:48] <brobostigon> i know you can dd to a usb , i suppose its no different really.[13:37:52] *** fyysik has quit IRC[13:38:53] *** triplez has joined #haiku[13:40:35] <HeTo> brobostigon: it's possible but if you want to boot from it you need to make it bootable[13:41:02] <brobostigon> HeTo: so i cant just point grub at it, i need to use makebootable?[13:41:27] <HeTo> brobostigon: yes[13:41:54] <brobostigon> HeTo: ok, i am just thinking about how to do that.[13:48:40] <CIA-69> bga * r34133 /haiku/trunk/src/libs/bsd/wait.c:[13:48:40] <CIA-69> instead of getrusage.[13:54:06] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[13:54:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[14:01:55] *** raichoo has quit IRC[14:13:04] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[14:13:22] *** redblue has quit IRC[14:15:04] *** leszek has joined #haiku[14:15:30] <leszek> hi[14:15:31] *** raichoo has quit IRC[14:15:59] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[14:20:59] *** cryptic has joined #haiku[14:35:02] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[14:35:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aldeck[14:38:35] *** raichoo has quit IRC[14:41:14] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[14:48:53] *** aldeck1 has joined #haiku[14:54:49] *** 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22nd column in the second row and then hangs[16:48:04] <logiclrd> I left it running overnight and it didn't move forward[16:48:19] <logiclrd> I've tried pressing keys, virtually ejecting & popping back in the CD, nothing seems to get its attention[16:48:30] <logiclrd> the screen is completely blank except for the blinking cursor at that offset[16:48:51] <logiclrd> all I found with google was a page saying that haiku works fine in Virtual PC 2007[16:50:07] <JonathanThompson> A more updated release may have fixed some of those issues.[16:50:27] <logiclrd> oh, is r1 alpha 1 a bit out of date? :-)[16:50:30] <JonathanThompson> Did you happen to have information as to the posting date of when they reported Virtual PC 2007 works fine?[16:50:58] <JonathanThompson> By well over 1000 revisions :)[16:51:23] <logiclrd> http://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/how_to_install_haiku_on_microsoft_virtual_pc_7_quick_and_easy <-- looks like march of 2008[16:51:37] <JonathanThompson> Interesting.[16:52:03] <JonathanThompson> Well, get the most recent version, hope for the best, and see if it still has that issue.[16:52:14] <JonathanThompson> Now, likely you should be able to boot it in safe mode.[16:52:28] <logiclrd> http://www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku says that R1/alpha 1 *is* the current version, released on September 14 of this year[16:52:33] <JonathanThompson> Though not sure how much time you have to do that via virtual disk bootup.[16:52:56] <logiclrd> how do I tell it to enter safe mode?[16:52:57] <JonathanThompson> Well, that's the current version of an official CD image that isn't a nightly ;)[16:53:14] <JonathanThompson> IIRC hold spacebar on bootup.[16:53:26] <logiclrd> I'll give that a try :-)[16:53:34] *** frank8 has joined #haiku[16:53:39] <JonathanThompson> Remember: it's over 2 months after that release, and they're not sitting still :P[16:53:46] <logiclrd> doesn't seem to make a difference with R1 alpha 1[16:53:59] <JonathanThompson> Lookup safe mode booting.[16:54:05] <JonathanThompson> I may have it wrong in my mind.[16:54:45] <logiclrd> I just found haiku-files.org/cd/ with nightly ISOs[16:54:49] <logiclrd> I'll try the most recent[16:54:58] <JonathanThompson> There you go :)[16:55:05] <JonathanThompson> It is, of course, a crapshoot.[16:55:13] <logiclrd> there are separate builds with gcc 2 and gcc 4, it looks like -- which should I prefer?[16:55:15] *** yamokidzu-it is now known as ^wanhuub-it[16:55:19] <JonathanThompson> New features added, old bugs fixed, and new bugs added :P[16:55:21] <logiclrd> also what is "hybrid"?[16:55:44] <JonathanThompson> That relates to the fact that C++ for gcc has different ABI for anything after 2.x.[16:56:14] <JonathanThompson> That is, C++ code compiled for one major revision won't run under the other one, and the hybrid has libs for both types.[16:56:17] <logiclrd> so it's about whether I need to be able to run binaries built for the old BeOS?[16:56:26] <JonathanThompson> 2.9x is the original BeOS-compatible GCC version.[16:56:31] <JonathanThompson> Yes.[16:56:40] <logiclrd> k, gcc4-hybrid it is :-)[16:56:53] <JonathanThompson> GCC 4.x will compile code that 2.9x won't, and, with quirks, the same thing goes in reverse, too.[16:57:16] <JonathanThompson> (Quite a few of the revisions are fixes of build breaks between the two C++ revisions)[16:57:34] <JonathanThompson> That is, code that builds fine for one GCC version doesn't work for the other :)[16:57:59] *** frank8 has quit IRC[16:58:28] <mmadia> logiclrd : gcc2-hybrid is the official release style of Haiku.[16:58:50] <mmadia> thus, it has the most support from our developers and community members.[16:59:23] <mmadia> you can compile software for either gcc, by using `setgcc -h` to switch compilers.[16:59:53] <mmadia> both hybrids are capable of running gcc2 and gcc4 software.[17:00:24] <logiclrd> ah okay[17:00:51] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[17:01:04] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[17:01:18] <JonathanThompson> mmadia: did I remember right for safe mode booting, of holding down the spacebar?[17:01:42] * mmadia nods[17:02:04] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[17:02:06] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[17:02:18] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[17:02:21] <mmadia> though, "smashing repeatedly" works best for me. :)[17:04:18] <JonathanThompson> Gotta do what you've gotta do, mmadia :P[17:04:22] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:07:58] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[17:07:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[17:08:22] *** _GeneralMaximus is now known as GeneralMaximus[17:09:06] *** [Katisu] has quit IRC[17:11:35] *** [Katisu] has joined #haiku[17:14:59] *** The123king has quit IRC[17:19:56] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34135 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/device_manager/io_requests.cpp: (log message trimmed)[17:19:56] <CIA-69> transfer_io_request_data(): There was some confusion about the isWrite[17:19:56] <CIA-69> parameter and request->IsWrite(). The parameter means whether we want to[17:19:56] <CIA-69> write to the request's I/O buffer (therefore renamed it to writeToRequest),[17:19:56] <CIA-69> while request->IsWrite() indicates whether the request is a write request.[17:19:59] <CIA-69> One can only write to a read request's buffer and vice versa.[17:20:01] <CIA-69> IOBuffer::LockMemory() also wants to know whether the request is a write[17:23:16] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34136 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/device_manager/IORequest.cpp:[17:23:16] <CIA-69> IOBuffer::SetVecs(): fUser was initialized incorrectly, if the vecs referred[17:23:16] <CIA-69> to physical memory whose address would accidentally satisfy the[17:23:16] <CIA-69> IS_USER_ADDRESS() check.[17:23:17] *** markos__ has joined #haiku[17:24:23] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[17:26:38] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34137 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/userlandfs/ (8 files in 4 dirs):[17:26:38] <CIA-69> Implemented support for the recently introduced I/O request calls[17:26:38] <CIA-69> io_request_{offset,length}(), {read_from,write_to}_io_request().[17:26:40] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[17:28:56] *** amuck_ has joined #haiku[17:29:32] <logiclrd> oh hey uh... the haiku ISOs, are they bootable?[17:29:46] <JonathanThompson> There are instructions on that, but... I think so.[17:29:49] <logiclrd> I think this VM is behaving as though they are not bootable[17:29:56] <JonathanThompson> Hmmm...[17:30:20] <logiclrd> I think the odd cursor moving out to the 22nd column behaviour is what's happening as a result of the completely black virtual hard drive the VM has[17:30:26] <JonathanThompson> I know the alpha ISO is bootable, for bootworthy hardware.[17:30:35] <logiclrd> hmm k[17:31:01] <logiclrd> when I mounted the nightly ISO, the VM decided to run a PXE boot agent on startup[17:31:11] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34138 /haiku/trunk/src/ (12 files in 2 dirs):[17:31:11] <CIA-69> * Added method PackageDataReader::ReadDataToOutput(), which writes the read[17:31:11] <CIA-69> data to a DataOutput.[17:31:11] <CIA-69> * Implemented packagefs' io() hook and changed the read() hook implementation[17:31:11] <CIA-69> to use the file cache. It's now possible to mmap() files and thus execute[17:31:13] <CIA-69> programs.[17:31:21] <JonathanThompson> Interesting.[17:31:27] *** markos_ has quit IRC[17:31:27] *** markos__ is now known as markos_[17:31:55] <logiclrd> hmm okay never mind, when I don't have the CD mounted the behaviour is different[17:32:02] <JonathanThompson> :)[17:32:07] <JonathanThompson> User Error?[17:32:12] <logiclrd> only in diagnosis[17:32:23] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[17:32:48] <logiclrd> I guess I'll have to try one of the alternative virtualizers[17:32:50] <logiclrd> maybe sun's virtualbox :-)[17:32:59] <JonathanThompson> That's known to work.[17:33:06] <JonathanThompson> At least, usually ;)[17:33:18] <logiclrd> it's just nice to be able to use what you already have installed, yano ;-)[17:33:25] <JonathanThompson> ya[17:33:39] *** mantis_ has joined #haiku[17:33:42] *** mantis has quit IRC[17:33:46] <CIA-69> bonefish * r34139 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/userlandfs/private/Requests.h:[17:33:46] <CIA-69> Should have been part of r34137. Request definitions for the new I/O request[17:33:46] <CIA-69> functionality.[17:34:21] *** dwarfyperson has joined #haiku[17:35:09] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[17:36:35] *** [Katisu]_m has joined #haiku[17:39:36] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:40:08] *** The123king has joined #haiku[17:40:33] *** jmayfield_ has joined #haiku[17:43:24] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[17:43:43] *** The123king has quit IRC[17:44:32] <Begasus> plop[17:45:42] *** The123king has joined #haiku[17:51:25] *** phalax_ has quit IRC[17:54:03] *** miqlas has quit IRC[17:54:45] *** [Katisu] has quit IRC[17:54:45] *** [Katisu]_m is now known as [Katisu][17:57:26] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[18:00:55] *** fly-away has quit IRC[18:02:00] *** phalax_ has joined #haiku[18:04:46] <logiclrd> alright, haiku is running fine in VirtualBox :-)[18:04:53] <logiclrd> do the nightly builds ship with a web browser?[18:07:25] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[18:08:00] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:08:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[18:08:01] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[18:11:11] *** leszek has quit IRC[18:13:16] <mmadia> nope[18:13:30] <logiclrd> does it come with a wget/fetch type application?[18:13:43] <mmadia> yup. wget.[18:14:31] <logiclrd> awesome[18:14:52] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:15:43] <logiclrd> haha just created half a dozen clocks with the clock application and of course they didn't go away with the main window[18:15:50] <logiclrd> is dragging them onto the trash the correct way to get rid of them?[18:15:53] *** cherrypai has joined #haiku[18:17:23] <mmadia> it's one of the correct ways.[18:17:32] <mmadia> some replicants can be right clicked.[18:18:11] <mmadia> worse comes to worse, all replicants can be removed by deleting /boot/home/config/settings/Tracker/tracker_shelf & restarting Tracker.[18:19:24] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[18:19:40] <logiclrd> neat[18:22:23] *** brrant has quit IRC[18:31:26] *** kallisti5 has joined #haiku[18:31:50] *** cherrypie has quit IRC[18:36:37] <saivert> humanity gravitates towards conflict[18:37:19] *** kallisti7 has quit IRC[18:42:36] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[18:43:07] <The123king> i had to wipe my Haiku partition as i upgraded my HDD. would it be worth upgrading to a trunk rev, and if so, which one?[18:44:08] <The123king> mind you, i will be using this as a production system[18:44:55] <helf> Production?[18:45:04] <helf> I wouldn't trust haiku for production anything yet[18:45:48] <The123king> it's better than Linux. That's production enough for me[18:45:54] <mmu_man> except production of bugs :p[18:46:04] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[18:46:24] <helf> :P[18:46:38] <helf> have they even fixed that "haiku will randomly eat all your data" bug yet?[18:46:44] <The123king> i've used alpha 1 on my laptop almost as often as XP and i've never really had any issues.[18:46:59] <The123king> and yes they have, i asked before i started using it as a production system[18:47:04] <helf> ah[18:47:09] <helf> thats cool :)[18:47:47] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[18:48:01] *** amuck_ has left #haiku[18:48:05] *** amuck_ has joined #haiku[18:49:31] <The123king> I'd love someone to develop/port Vbox guest additions.[18:49:43] *** amuck_ has left #haiku[18:49:46] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[18:50:39] * helf hands The123king gcc and vbox source[18:51:09] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[18:51:14] <The123king> me would love to but can't code a lot[18:51:17] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[18:51:26] <helf> :)[18:51:38] <The123king> i'd throw money at the problem though[18:52:10] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[18:52:28] * The123king hands helf gcc, vbox source and moolah[18:52:32] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[18:52:54] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[18:53:25] <helf> heh[18:53:34] <helf> If you hand it to me, it'll be a black hole for the money :P[18:53:39] * helf doesn't code[18:53:51] <helf> Suuure! I'll take the $500![18:53:53] <helf> :P[18:54:49] <The123king> we can start lower than that ;)[18:55:40] <The123king> can you code at all?[18:56:38] <helf> 10 print "hello, world"[18:56:40] <helf> 20 goto 10[18:56:42] <helf> there[18:56:43] <helf> :P[18:57:27] <The123king> ummm, basic?[18:57:38] * The123king doesn't do BASIC[18:57:47] <The123king> C for me[18:57:58] * helf doesn't code at all[18:58:07] <helf> I don't have the patience[18:58:40] <The123king> main(){prinf("Hello World!/n");}[18:58:46] <The123king> methinks[18:58:53] <HeTo> int main() { void puts(const char *); line10: puts("hello, world"); goto line10; return 0;}[18:59:17] <The123king> showoff[18:59:28] <helf> heh[18:59:56] * The123king gets the K&R white bible ou[19:00:01] <The123king> out*[19:00:23] *** brrant has joined #haiku[19:01:00] <helf> I like this one[19:01:01] <helf> ('&%:9]!~}|z2Vxwv-,POqponl$Hjig%eB@@>}=<M:9wv6WsU2T|nm-,jcL(I&%$#"[19:01:01] <helf> `CB]V?Tx<uVtT`Rpo3NlF.Jh++FdbCBA@?]!~|4XzyTT43Qsqq(Lnmkj"Fhg${z@>[19:01:04] <helf> :][19:01:17] <helf> Hello, World! via Malbolge[19:01:30] <helf> * "Hello World!"[19:01:46] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[19:01:46] <HeTo> meh, puts is int puts(const char *);[19:02:08] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[19:02:26] <helf> It uses ternary numeral system[19:02:42] <HeTo> but otherwise what I typed is a valid C program that copmiles without warnings on gcc with -Wall -pedantic[19:04:40] <helf> Ever look at the IOCCC entries?[19:05:24] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[19:06:25] <HeTo> ah, I've probably seen some of those by occasion, but not really looked at or looked for them[19:07:47] <helf> http://www0.us.ioccc.org/main.html[19:07:55] <helf> some of it is scaaaary :)[19:08:06] *** VinDuv-mbp has joined #haiku[19:08:09] <helf> like entires programs written using spaces[19:10:19] *** joshc has joined #haiku[19:12:47] *** kallisti5 has quit IRC[19:17:58] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[19:18:06] *** waveshaper has quit IRC[19:18:39] *** mantis has joined #haiku[19:21:26] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[19:22:33] *** sprma_ has joined #haiku[19:23:42] *** VinDuv-mbp has quit IRC[19:24:53] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:25:23] *** kallisti5 has joined #haiku[19:30:02] *** kallisti5 has quit IRC[19:30:15] *** sprma has quit IRC[19:30:15] *** sprma_ is now known as sprma[19:30:38] *** kallisti5 has joined #haiku[19:32:40] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[19:33:15] *** pfoetche1 has joined #haiku[19:33:44] *** rxt0 has joined #haiku[19:33:59] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[19:35:30] *** mantis_ has quit IRC[19:38:00] <mmu_man> oh interesting, Google Trends also works for websites[19:38:01] <mmu_man> http://trends.google.com/websites?q=http%3A%2F%2Fbebits.com%2F&geo=all&date=all[19:38:06] <mmu_man> but not all :-([19:38:35] <mmadia> maybe the usage is that low?[19:40:53] <mmu_man> yeah I suspect their data is wrong though, many sites just have the same declining curve[19:41:00] <mmu_man> on 1y[19:44:22] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[19:46:58] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[19:47:37] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[19:48:01] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[19:48:29] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[19:48:50] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[19:54:27] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[19:56:18] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[19:59:21] *** monsoon has joined #haiku[19:59:26] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC[20:01:36] *** Dane__ has joined #Haiku[20:02:43] *** binaryimpulse has joined #haiku[20:03:12] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[20:11:24] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[20:14:00] *** dhalsimrocks has joined #haiku[20:16:59] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[20:17:55] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[20:19:32] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[20:21:12] *** Dane__ has joined #Haiku[20:22:59] *** kallisti7 has joined #haiku[20:25:59] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku[20:27:39] <dhalsimrocks> so what is The Right Way (TM) to use the gcc2 included with haiku to build software from a standard unix style tarball? gcc and the relevant libs are all in a quite different path, so of course configure asplodes, etc.[20:28:51] <mmadia> http://ports.haiku-files.org/ has some information on porting software, dhalsimrocks[20:29:00] <dhalsimrocks> thanks![20:29:19] <mmadia> usually it involves running autotools and runnig configure --prefix=/boot/common[20:30:07] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[20:30:25] <DraX> what are you porting?[20:30:47] <dhalsimrocks> and if i were to build something *meant* for BeOS/Haiku, such as im_kit, does jam usually Just Work?[20:31:11] <dhalsimrocks> I was going to attempt gnu screen[20:31:25] <mmadia> for imkit, there's a readme.. configure ; jam -q[20:31:26] <DraX> i have a feeling screen will be a pita[20:31:34] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[20:31:41] <dhalsimrocks> yeah, I got that feeling as well, but I thought I'd give it a shot[20:31:56] *** kallisti5 has quit IRC[20:32:02] <dhalsimrocks> it's something I use quite a bit, so it'd be handy to have on Haiku[20:35:13] <DraX> yes[20:35:20] <DraX> though note that the terminal is a bit broken[20:35:29] <DraX> emacs over ssh for example does not work in it[20:35:34] <dhalsimrocks> *noted[20:35:40] <dhalsimrocks> vim does. :-)[20:35:41] <DraX> well it kind of works, but it gets upset by scrolling[20:35:56] <dhalsimrocks> I was quite pleased to find a working sshd in Haiku[20:41:07] *** fly-away has joined #haiku[20:45:30] *** brrant has quit IRC[20:47:00] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[20:54:41] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[20:55:38] *** phalax_ has quit IRC[20:56:13] *** phalax_ has joined #haiku[20:59:49] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[21:01:06] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[21:01:19] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[21:01:24] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[21:08:02] *** dru--_ has joined #haiku[21:08:29] *** dru--_ has quit IRC[21:08:44] *** dru--_ has joined #haiku[21:09:12] *** dru_ has quit IRC[21:14:37] *** fly-away has quit IRC[21:16:32] *** duglia has joined #haiku[21:16:39] <duglia> hi all[21:17:41] *** kitallis has quit IRC[21:17:58] <CIA-69> scottmc * r509 /haikuports/trunk/ (17 files in 12 dirs): Initial .OPD files for lua, perl, mono, rsynce, subversion, sqlite. Moved rsynce patch and updated .bep file so that it works now. (still need to find and fill in copyright for mono)[21:18:45] <duglia> anyone skilled with audio under haiku?[21:18:45] <logiclrd> hey I just had a crazy idea -- wouldn't haiku be pretty much perfect as a smartphone OS, modulo a few drivers, dialer applet, and other such SMOPs?[21:19:11] <helf> no[21:19:27] <helf> :P[21:19:46] <HeTo> there's been a mockup of a Haiku PDA UI years ago[21:20:04] *** ^wanhuub-it has quit IRC[21:20:30] *** Hugen has quit IRC[21:20:52] <logiclrd> duglia the extent of my experience with audio on haiku is that when I run Cortex and wire up the Demo Audio Producer to the Flanger to the Audio Mixer, and then start the graph, I get sound output :-)[21:20:59] *** miqlas has quit IRC[21:23:18] <logiclrd> wow the flanger node can make some pretty weird sounds! also the settings like to .. change by themselves[21:24:10] <mmu_man> HeTo http://embedded.hug-nordic.org/[21:24:39] <mmadia> for April 1st too.[21:24:59] <mmadia> by two devs.. lirpA and TSRif :D[21:25:03] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:28:11] *** J-Ho has joined #haiku[21:28:56] <dhalsimrocks> my lack of familiarity with autotools and libtool is coming back to bite me[21:29:20] <mmadia> a 6pack of beer usually helps to dull the pain.[21:29:28] <dhalsimrocks> that sounds great[21:29:37] <mmadia> i'm serious :)[21:32:22] <dhalsimrocks> gnu screen's tree has no aclocal.m4, nor Makefile.am... man, it's been SO long since I've touched autotools[21:32:33] <dhalsimrocks> like 8 or 9 years[21:32:45] <mmadia> Makefile.in?[21:33:22] <dhalsimrocks> yeah, haiku's libtoolize is suggesting i add something to Makefile.am[21:34:32] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:34:33] *** fran has joined #haiku[21:36:41] *** fly-away has joined #haiku[21:47:11] <CIA-69> modeenf * r34140 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/screenshot/ (9 files): Additional CLI parameters for Screeshot (Ticket #3816) and some cleanup (I hope), using Translator kit now instead of own PNG when using CLI. 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:)[22:45:46] *** rxt0 has quit IRC[22:46:15] <dhalsimrocks> I did[22:46:20] <dhalsimrocks> ./configure && jam -q[22:47:14] *** Malmis has quit IRC[22:48:25] <mmadia> can you pastebin your imkit/generated/BuildConfig ?[22:49:48] <dhalsimrocks> http://pastebin.com/dde6ee98[22:50:41] *** phalax__ has joined #haiku[22:51:00] <mmadia> what's gcc -v spit out?[22:51:02] *** phalax_ has quit IRC[22:51:19] <dhalsimrocks> gcc: command not found. :-)[22:51:25] <dhalsimrocks> well, not with the smiley[22:51:29] <CIA-69> modeenf * r34141 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/screenshot/ (ScreenshotWindow.cpp ScreenshotWindow.h): Change back _FindValidFileName to use BString, don't know what I was thinking, thanks Jerome and Stephan.[22:51:59] <mmadia> open /boot/develop/tools/ ?[22:52:07] *** cpr420 has joined #haiku[22:52:21] <mmadia> and open /boot/develop/abi/x86[22:52:44] <dhalsimrocks> yeah, that's where I found gcc[22:53:30] <DraX> dhalsimrocks: did you copy over your own .bashrc file?[22:53:34] <mmadia> which one?[22:53:49] <dhalsimrocks> does /boot/develop/tools/gnupro/bin need to be in my PATH?[22:54:00] <dhalsimrocks> no, fresh .bashrc[22:54:22] <mmadia> no.[22:54:25] <mmadia> /boot/develop/tools> ls -l[22:54:26] <mmadia> total 2[22:54:26] <mmadia> lrwxrwxrwx 1 user root 39 Nov 7 04:39 gnupro -> /boot/develop/abi/current/tools/current[22:54:35] <dhalsimrocks> right[22:54:53] <mmadia> /boot/develop/abi> ls -l[22:54:54] <mmadia> total 8[22:54:54] <mmadia> lrwxrwxrwx 1 user root 8 Nov 7 04:39 current -> x86/gcc2[22:55:10] <dhalsimrocks> yeah, I've got all that[22:55:24] <mmadia> did you fudge with your $PATH?[22:55:34] <mmadia> ~> echo $PATH[22:55:34] <mmadia> .:/boot/home/config/bin:/boot/common/bin:/bin:/boot/apps:/boot/preferences:/boot/system/apps:/boot/system/preferences:/boot/develop/tools/gnupro/bin[22:56:00] *** Malmis has joined #Haiku[22:56:17] <dhalsimrocks> ok, we're getting somewhere[22:56:35] <dhalsimrocks> it finds gcc, but ld can't find crti.o[22:57:11] <mmadia> something's screwy with your environment.[22:57:12] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[22:58:05] <dhalsimrocks> does LD_LIBRARY_PATH need set as well?[22:59:12] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[23:00:07] *** Kernel86|Laptop has quit IRC[23:00:17] <CIA-69> axeld * r34142 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/tty/tty.cpp: * Cleanup, no functional change.[23:01:29] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[23:01:38] *** prOSy has quit IRC[23:08:45] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:09:29] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[23:13:00] <kirilla> what's the general Haiku experience with nvidia chipsets? (motherboards based on an nvidia chipset)[23:13:45] <mmadia> sound doesn't work here -- though i've been too lazy to pinpoint which revision it stopped working.[23:14:19] <mmadia> usb is iffy -- i need to daisy chain this usb keyboard onto a usb2.0 hub for it to work.[23:14:43] <kirilla> doesn't sound too great :/[23:15:18] <mmadia> everything else works :[23:15:28] <kirilla> what about AMD-based mobos?[23:16:28] <mmadia> dunno, all 3 pc's are nvidia based. socket 462, 939, and AM2+.[23:18:23] <kirilla> I'm tempted to get a Zotac mini-itx to replace my current atx[23:19:13] <kirilla> still a bit pricey to risk it not working well with Haiku though[23:19:21] *** dru--_ has quit IRC[23:19:42] <mmadia> anyone in particular?[23:22:56] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[23:24:16] *** Geoz has quit IRC[23:24:30] *** phalax__ has quit IRC[23:25:43] <kirilla> mmadia: ZOTAC GF9300-G-E SOCKET 775 MINI-ITX[23:26:00] *** petterhj has quit IRC[23:26:25] <kirilla> mmadia: since I could drop in my Q6600 and the other parts I already have[23:27:18] <mmadia> it'd be vesa, unless you dropped in a video card[23:28:24] <kirilla> yeah..[23:30:56] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[23:36:18] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[23:41:46] *** hoelzro has quit IRC[23:45:13] <kirilla> mmadia: this Intel mini-ITX looks nice though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121358&Tpk=DQ45EK[23:45:29] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:46:01] <mmadia> any idea on the support for GMA 4500?[23:46:24] *** mortuosplango has joined #haiku[23:47:00] <kirilla> no[23:51:31] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:51:50] *** kallisti7 has quit IRC[23:52:20] *** kallisti5 has joined #haiku[23:52:31] *** HaikUbuntu has joined #haiku[23:55:38] <CIA-69> stippi * r34143 /haiku/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs):[23:55:38] <CIA-69> * Created icons for MediaPlayer playlists[23:55:38] <CIA-69> * Properly register playlist mimetype in MediaPlayer. Double clicking them[23:55:38] <CIA-69> will now open them in MediaPlayer.[23:58:56] <dwarfyperson> kirilla: if you don't mind an older board, if you can find an ICH4 they work brilliantly[23:59:25] *** fly-away has quit IRC[23:59:37] *** fly-away has joined #haiku