November 11, 2009 
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November 11, 2009 [00:00:13] *** korli has quit IRC[00:00:53] <mmu_man> CaptainPike_hero I don't think the freebsd framework includes usb support[00:02:07] *** davbook has quit IRC[00:03:08] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[00:03:31] *** Sloar has joined #haiku[00:03:49] <CaptainPike_hero> ok, thanks. sadly, my laptop only has an express slot. this store has no express WiFi cards at all[00:04:13] *** killermouse0 has quit IRC[00:06:18] *** markos_ has quit IRC[00:07:31] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[00:08:37] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[00:12:25] *** Andrius[] has quit IRC[00:12:57] *** adb has quit IRC[00:16:01] *** matthiasr has left #haiku[00:16:45] *** adb has joined #haiku[00:17:41] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[00:18:18] *** ukev has quit IRC[00:25:52] *** kirilla has quit IRC[00:32:08] *** oco has quit IRC[00:32:24] *** oco has joined #haiku[00:34:50] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[00:35:04] *** _Ruan_ has quit IRC[00:38:06] *** smokeybandit has joined #haiku[00:45:13] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[00:45:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aldeck[00:45:21] *** Sryche has quit IRC[00:45:43] *** Sryche has joined #haiku[00:48:45] *** luroh has quit IRC[00:49:35] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[00:51:45] *** Cheshire_Cat has joined #haiku[00:53:13] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[00:53:31] *** kirilla has quit IRC[00:54:48] *** prOSy has quit IRC[00:57:15] *** Hugen has quit IRC[00:58:05] *** Geoz has quit IRC[00:58:19] *** smokeybandit has left #haiku[00:59:38] *** tuna_ has quit IRC[01:01:51] *** joshc has quit IRC[01:02:36] *** Cheshire_Cat is now known as Geoz[01:03:04] *** Sryche has quit IRC[01:06:39] *** xcasexwr1a has joined #haiku[01:11:43] *** Captain_Pike has joined #haiku[01:12:27] *** Barrett has quit IRC[01:13:13] <CIA-69> kirilla * r33991 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/mail/MailWindow.cpp: Adding missing ellipsis in menu item, as suggested by Luroh in #4935. Thanks![01:16:43] *** adamk has quit IRC[01:17:56] *** xcasexwrka has quit IRC[01:19:02] *** miqlas has quit IRC[01:22:01] *** thotypous has quit IRC[01:40:40] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[01:52:05] *** wildur has quit IRC[01:55:10] *** tuna_ has joined #haiku[01:55:26] *** kwag has joined #haiku[01:57:01] *** smokeybandit has joined #haiku[02:04:22] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:04:31] *** michaelvo has joined #haiku[02:06:10] *** Sloar has left #haiku[02:06:10] *** Sloar has quit IRC[02:08:20] *** aldeck has quit IRC[02:13:34] *** adb has quit IRC[02:14:49] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[02:16:12] *** michaelvo has quit IRC[02:19:21] *** tuna_ has quit IRC[02:19:23] *** triplez has quit IRC[02:20:19] *** Silicon_Wolf has quit IRC[02:21:59] *** raichoo has quit IRC[02:25:08] *** skarmiglione has joined #haiku[02:33:32] *** scanty has quit IRC[02:34:01] *** scanty has joined #haiku[02:43:13] *** triplez has joined #haiku[02:43:37] *** gobgob has quit IRC[02:43:48] *** xvedejas has quit IRC[02:43:52] *** xvedejas has joined #haiku[02:43:56] *** heavenquake has quit IRC[02:48:08] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[03:29:34] *** demetrio has joined #haiku[03:32:08] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[03:44:37] *** oco has quit IRC[03:56:34] *** CaptainPike_hero has quit IRC[03:58:37] *** smokeybandit has left #haiku[04:03:29] *** nicholas_ has joined #haiku[04:03:51] *** nicholas_ has quit IRC[04:10:36] *** Qeos has quit IRC[04:18:24] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:24:29] *** redblue has joined #haiku[04:28:33] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[04:29:02] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[04:31:33] *** alexsuraci has quit IRC[04:33:17] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[04:35:00] *** Silicon_Wolf has joined #haiku[04:39:48] *** HaikUbuntu has quit IRC[04:45:59] <DraX> hax![04:46:21] <DraX> ?[04:46:31] * JonathanThompson hax DraX[04:46:43] <DraX> it's hax! not hax[04:47:04] * JonathanThompson hax! DraX[04:47:07] <JonathanThompson> Happier?[04:47:09] <DraX> better[04:47:12] *** demetrio has quit IRC[04:47:44] <DraX> Ober: axeld noted in ticket #2923 that you can install a live haiku machine if you move /system out of the way[04:48:39] <JonathanThompson> Makes for a change in questions/problems to think about.[04:48:40] <DraX> does the job actually involve data analysis?[04:48:53] <JonathanThompson> Nothing but data analysis, or almost nothing but that.[04:48:59] <JonathanThompson> Web data.[04:49:15] <JonathanThompson> Web analytics.[04:49:47] <JonathanThompson> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sof/1424342370.html[04:50:48] <JonathanThompson> It's curious that they've not asked about BHO's yet.[04:50:54] <JonathanThompson> Or even really in Windows/ATL.[04:51:13] <JonathanThompson> A very curious situation I'm in.[04:52:52] <DraX> i'm always annoyed by interviews that ask dumb algoritms questions that are unrelated to anything you'd actually be doing[04:52:57] <DraX> so at least it's related[04:53:05] <JonathanThompson> It's absolutely related, deeply.[04:53:30] <JonathanThompson> I'm thinking I can only tell you: look at their website, and draw your own conclusions.[04:55:05] <JonathanThompson> I'm thinking I was considered more for my Yahoo! experience than most anything else.[04:56:00] *** triplez_ has joined #haiku[04:56:33] <JonathanThompson> Funny thing: the guy I'm interviewing with is only one person between him and me on LinkedIn.[04:58:22] *** kwag has quit IRC[05:08:04] *** gobgob has joined #haiku[05:13:46] *** triplez has quit IRC[05:13:47] *** triplez_ is now known as triplez[05:30:41] *** triplez has quit IRC[05:31:06] *** triplez has joined #haiku[05:37:42] *** gtaww has joined #haiku[05:50:07] *** gtaw has quit IRC[05:57:01] *** judgen has joined #haiku[06:06:42] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[06:09:46] *** xvedejas has quit IRC[06:10:27] *** gtaww is now known as cuebol[06:10:47] *** cuebol is now known as gtaw[06:11:06] <DraX> wow[06:11:09] <DraX> trac really is awful[06:11:33] <DraX> seriously? no way to search by submitter?[06:11:38] <gtaw> No[06:11:48] <gtaw> Shame on you for asking.[06:12:11] <DraX> oh wait[06:12:16] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[06:12:18] <DraX> there is a filter ui burrief[06:12:19] <DraX> burried[06:21:43] <DraX> can we get a distributed bug tracker that uses bfs file attributes[06:21:55] <DraX> soo i can use file system queries to search the bug repository[06:22:22] <gtaw> My god..[06:23:14] <DraX> yes you know it'd rock :P[06:23:46] <gtaw> No, I was commenting on your crybabery ;)[06:42:29] <MrSunshine> i need a haiku computer[06:42:41] *** euph has joined #haiku[06:42:42] <MrSunshine> would be awsome if i got to know if my quadcore cpu is still alive[06:44:10] <euph> does safemode install from CD keep the resolution down?[06:45:10] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[06:46:14] <MrSunshine> safe mode install ?[06:46:21] <MrSunshine> you can set the safe video mode resolution you want[06:51:24] *** gtaw has quit IRC[06:51:46] <DraX> new laptop arrives thursday \o/[06:54:46] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[07:05:49] <euph> thanks[07:05:52] <euph> that worked[07:08:32] *** HaikuBot has joined #haiku[07:13:38] *** n0g4n0o has quit IRC[07:18:04] *** euph has quit IRC[07:19:12] *** mmadia has quit IRC[07:21:00] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[07:22:02] *** judgen has left #haiku[07:25:08] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[07:25:16] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[07:36:05] *** sprma has joined #haiku[07:41:25] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[07:42:20] *** triplez_ has joined #haiku[07:48:20] *** fcr has joined #haiku[07:49:24] *** tqh has joined #haiku[07:50:11] *** OmniMancer1 has joined #haiku[07:56:45] <CIA-69> jackburton * r33992 /haiku/trunk/data/system/data/fonts/ttfonts/ (4 files):[07:56:45] <CIA-69> Replace Konatu and Konatu Tohaba with VL-PGothic and VL-Gothic respectively,[07:56:45] <CIA-69> like requested in ticket #4933.[07:58:25] *** sprma has quit IRC[07:59:16] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[08:00:11] *** tqh has quit IRC[08:00:53] *** triplez has quit IRC[08:00:53] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[08:00:53] *** triplez_ is now known as triplez[08:02:01] *** glootech_ has joined #haiku[08:05:41] *** curlyman has quit IRC[08:05:41] *** glootech has quit IRC[08:05:43] *** CIA-69 has quit IRC[08:07:31] *** curlyman has joined #haiku[08:25:51] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[08:37:55] *** bverre has joined #haiku[08:38:20] <bverre> hello. anyone up?[08:40:40] *** bverre has quit IRC[08:41:17] *** Qeos has joined #haiku[08:57:42] *** CIA-69 has joined #haiku[08:58:41] *** triplez has quit IRC[08:59:02] *** triplez has joined #haiku[09:00:09] *** DDevine has joined #haiku[09:00:13] <DDevine> Gday[09:00:40] <DraX> howdy[09:01:17] <DDevine> I heard something about a social media kit or something like that being developed[09:01:24] <DDevine> Whats happening with that?[09:02:23] *** michail has joined #haiku[09:03:24] <DraX> hmm, not heard of it[09:04:53] *** fcr has quit IRC[09:09:44] *** [Katisu] has quit IRC[09:14:17] *** joshc has joined #haiku[09:21:46] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[09:24:02] *** judgen has joined #haiku[09:28:23] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[09:29:18] *** joshc has quit IRC[09:30:16] *** triplez_ has joined #haiku[09:32:43] *** triplez_ has quit IRC[09:33:07] *** redblue has quit IRC[09:33:10] *** triplez_ has joined #haiku[09:34:00] *** triplez has quit IRC[09:34:00] *** triplez_ is now known as triplez[09:36:32] <MrSunshine> the haiku install makes something that makes haiku go poop or its somehting else in the background tat does it in qemu :/[09:36:35] <MrSunshine> dunno on real hw[09:37:14] <CIA-69> axeld * r33993 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/network/ (EthernetSettingsView.cpp settings.cpp):[09:37:14] <CIA-69> * EthernetSettingsView now stores resolv.conf to the correct location.[09:37:14] <CIA-69> * Settings::ReadConfiguration() now uses functions of resolv.h to retrieve the[09:37:14] <CIA-69> list of name servers instead of parsing resolv.conf itself.[09:37:14] <CIA-69> * Thanks for the note, Siarzhuk - this closes ticket #2603.[09:40:01] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[09:44:53] <CIA-69> jackburton * r33994 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/aboutsystem/AboutSystem.cpp:[09:44:53] <CIA-69> Replaced license/copyrights for Konatu with the ones for VL-Gothic fonts.[09:44:53] <CIA-69> This and r33992 fix ticket #4933.[09:45:33] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[09:47:34] *** skarmiglione1 has joined #haiku[09:50:37] *** joshc has joined #haiku[09:51:41] *** ivoire has quit IRC[09:51:52] *** ivoire has joined #haiku[09:55:04] <CIA-69> axeld * r33995 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/network/ (EthernetSettingsView.cpp settings.cpp settings.h): * Some cleanup.[09:57:08] *** skarmiglione1 has left #haiku[09:58:35] <CIA-69> axeld * r33996 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/network/ (7 files):[09:58:35] <CIA-69> * Renamed settings.{cpp|h} to Settings.*.[09:58:35] <CIA-69> * Got rid of some superfluous Get*() in method names.[10:00:07] *** OmniMancer1 has quit IRC[10:02:10] *** skarmiglione has quit IRC[10:08:08] <CIA-69> axeld * r33997 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/media/DataExchange.h:[10:08:08] <CIA-69> * Applied patch by Adrian to fix the command structures used for the media[10:08:09] <CIA-69> server with GCC4 in a GCC2 system (and vice versa). See #4920 which this[10:08:09] <CIA-69> patch closes, too.[10:13:44] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[10:15:20] *** michail has quit IRC[10:16:36] *** triplez has quit IRC[10:17:59] *** joeyadams has quit IRC[10:24:32] *** michail has joined #haiku[10:28:15] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[10:29:12] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[10:29:36] <CIA-69> axeld * r33998 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/media/nodetest/ (ConsumerNode.cpp ConsumerNode.h Jamfile ProducerNode.cpp): * Cleanup.[10:29:53] <Begasus> moin[10:32:11] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[10:39:07] *** [r4]_ has joined #haiku[10:59:07] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[11:03:07] *** joshc has quit IRC[11:07:33] *** thotypous has quit IRC[11:12:22] *** Hugen has quit IRC[11:14:57] *** judgen has quit IRC[11:15:15] *** VinDuv-mbp has joined #haiku[11:17:29] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[11:21:28] *** kitallis has joined #haiku[11:23:03] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[11:25:36] <CIA-69> jackburton * r33999 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/FontStyle.h: Make use of Freetype macros where applicable (no functional change)[11:37:18] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[11:41:17] *** fcr has joined #haiku[11:41:25] *** arjen has joined #haiku[11:45:46] *** glootech_ has quit IRC[11:45:49] *** Captain_Pike has quit IRC[11:46:07] *** glootech_ has joined #haiku[11:46:48] *** arjen has quit IRC[11:46:59] *** killermouse0 has joined #haiku[11:48:27] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[11:48:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[11:52:18] <DDevine> I just had "cream cheese" stuff. Its awesome.[11:54:23] <CIA-69> jackburton * r34000 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/FontFamily.cpp:[11:54:23] <CIA-69> The family flags did not report if a font was "full and half fixed". But[11:54:23] <CIA-69> this flag isn't even set, yet, anyway, so nothing changed for real.[11:56:57] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[12:00:29] *** HeTo_ has joined #haiku[12:00:39] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[12:02:16] *** adamk has joined #haiku[12:05:41] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[12:07:59] <CIA-69> jackburton * r34001 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/FontStyle.h: Removed crept-in tab (thanks Ingo!)[12:09:55] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[12:09:57] *** fhein has joined #haiku[12:11:44] *** phalax has quit IRC[12:14:26] *** fcr has quit IRC[12:28:57] *** HeTo has quit IRC[12:30:17] *** judgen has joined #haiku[12:39:32] *** Silicon_Wolf has quit IRC[12:42:31] *** fhein has quit IRC[12:49:23] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[12:56:04] *** Barrett has quit IRC[12:59:09] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[13:05:57] *** korli has joined #haiku[13:05:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[13:06:38] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[13:11:36] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:12:51] *** yamekidzu-it has joined #haiku[13:12:55] *** triplez has joined #haiku[13:13:10] *** PasNox has quit IRC[13:18:46] *** warpdesign has joined #haiku[13:31:59] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[13:33:52] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[13:33:59] <GeneralMaximus> evening :)[13:34:50] *** judgen has quit IRC[13:38:04] *** phalax has joined #haiku[13:39:00] *** judgen has joined #haiku[13:47:26] <Begasus> afternoon ;)[13:49:43] <GeneralMaximus> namaste Begasus :)[13:53:13] <Begasus> aloha GeneralMaximus )[13:53:41] <GeneralMaximus> Begasus: where did your eyes go?[13:53:49] <Begasus> my eyes?[13:54:07] <GeneralMaximus> yeah. your smiley is missing its eyes.[13:54:10] <GeneralMaximus> :p[13:54:18] <Begasus> hehe[13:54:53] * GeneralMaximus has been annoying people with bad puns and lame jokes for about 2 weeks now[13:55:15] <GeneralMaximus> beware, IRC![13:56:13] *** triplez_ has joined #haiku[14:01:44] *** adamk has quit IRC[14:03:19] *** adamk has joined #haiku[14:14:19] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[14:14:20] *** triplez has quit IRC[14:14:21] *** triplez_ is now known as triplez[14:14:25] <Begasus> mmadia![14:14:59] <mmadia> Begasus![14:15:18] <GeneralMaximus> at first glance, Cocoa's NSRunLoop looks *exactly* like a BLooper. only, it's much more complicated and creating one involves 10x more bookkeeping.[14:15:27] * GeneralMaximus feels dizzy[14:23:38] <OmniMancer> so when shall cocoa use BLooper instead :P[14:24:19] <GeneralMaximus> Cocoa is ... huge[14:25:59] *** Logic has joined #haiku[14:29:10] <OmniMancer> well its missing out[14:29:22] *** smokeybandit has joined #haiku[14:32:49] <GeneralMaximus> OmniMancer: missing out?[14:33:03] <warpdesign> hi![14:33:13] <GeneralMaximus> namaste warpdesign :)[14:33:18] <warpdesign> :)[14:33:48] <OmniMancer> on the wonder of the BAPI :P[14:34:04] <OmniMancer> which could probably do with some improvements..[14:35:14] <GeneralMaximus> well, Cocoa does do a lot more than the BeAPI[14:36:31] <GeneralMaximus> problem is, in Cocoa you can't pick and choose what parts of the API you want to use. all i wanted to do was monitor a folder for changes, and i'm having to read a whole bunch of stuff[14:37:43] <GeneralMaximus> and most of the documentation is talking about how Cocoa is so awesome and makes your life simpler and waters your lawn :([14:38:26] <OmniMancer> lol[14:38:44] <OmniMancer> well I think there is a limit to the modularity of the BAPI[14:39:00] <OmniMancer> but it shoudlnt have those sort of problems[14:39:30] *** yamekidzu-it has quit IRC[14:40:02] <warpdesign> so what's new on haiku front ?[14:41:23] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[14:44:26] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[14:44:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[14:46:48] *** quietdev has joined #haiku[14:50:34] *** fly-away has joined #haiku[14:51:47] *** triplez has quit IRC[14:53:59] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[14:55:29] <Begasus> all alpha users? ;)[14:55:52] <mmadia> qt-haiku.ru too[14:56:12] <warpdesign> anything new interesting to test in latest builds ?[14:57:21] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[14:57:31] <Begasus> don't know .. .haven't been building latest checkouts ;)[14:58:43] <mvfranz> I just updated from svn and getting failed updating 11 target(s)[14:58:56] <mvfranz> Are there some known issue currently?[14:59:27] *** Hugen has quit IRC[14:59:39] <mvfranz> I am cross compiling from OS X[15:00:07] <mmadia> BOM is building 34001 ATM. r33999 built fine on FreeBSD.[15:01:01] <Begasus> whoot ... another milestone comming up mmadia ;)[15:01:11] <Begasus> err bugger ... past it already ;)[15:01:50] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[15:01:51] <mvfranz> mmadia I just realized that wget is not in my path anymore - I fixed that and it is doing more[15:01:59] <mvfranz> that might be why the 11 items failed[15:02:20] *** VinDuv-mbp is now known as VinDuv[15:02:23] <mvfranz> only 2 failed now[15:04:52] *** dru_ has quit IRC[15:09:14] <mvfranz> resolved - had some update conflict with pthreads[15:12:51] *** dflemstr has joined #haiku[15:13:27] *** michail has quit IRC[15:15:44] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[15:17:46] <CIA-69> axeld * r34002 /haiku/trunk/headers/posix/resolv.h: * Cleanup.[15:19:55] <CIA-69> axeld * r34003 /haiku/trunk/ (16 files in 3 dirs):[15:19:55] <CIA-69> * Rewrote arpa/inet.h header, also dropping the __inet* defines.[15:19:55] <CIA-69> * Resurrected the __inet* prefix for binary compatibility with older Haiku[15:19:55] <CIA-69> versions - this could be a temporary solution in case we want to export the[15:19:55] <CIA-69> inet_* functions not just as weak symbols. In that case, the __inet* versions[15:19:58] <CIA-69> would be dropped.[15:24:02] <DDevine> How many haiku machines do you guys have?[15:24:48] <DDevine> I have one desktop, plus a HDD that I have Haiku on for my laptop.[15:25:05] <DDevine> But day to day the laptop runs Fedora.[15:25:24] <adamk> I have on desktop machine that I use to boot between different operating systems, including Haiku. I also have Haiku installed to a USB flash drive that I've used in multiple machines for testing.[15:25:56] <warpdesign> well, none[15:26:01] <warpdesign> i'm waiting for wifi[15:26:21] <DDevine> It will be quite a while until Wifi is really usable I think.[15:26:41] <DDevine> Needs WPA.[15:26:50] <warpdesign> i'll wait then[15:26:57] <warpdesign> i need wifi :)[15:28:56] *** MadEchidna has joined #haiku[15:29:17] <DDevine> http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspiron-zino?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs&~tab=specstab[15:29:40] <DDevine> Just saw that. Don't know if they are going to sell them in Australia though. Nice little box.[15:30:17] <DDevine> I would probably go the EEEBox instead though.[15:30:29] <DDevine> Not really interested in low powered x86 though.[15:30:45] <DDevine> When I go low power, I would go ARM.[15:33:09] <DDevine> HOOOOOLLLYYYY Crap! 1 U.S. dollar = 1.07296137 Australian dollars[15:33:15] <DDevine> Is google wrong?[15:37:04] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[15:38:58] <pulkomandy> 1 US$ = 0.665026269 Euros[15:39:11] *** michail has joined #haiku[15:39:45] <pulkomandy> seems right... don't help for AUD however :)[15:40:35] *** MadEchidna has quit IRC[15:46:29] <warpdesign> arm is phone stuff[15:49:32] <DDevine> warpdesign: Yes, but it is at the stage where it can definitely do more than that.[15:49:53] *** fhein has joined #haiku[15:50:07] <DDevine> And the new Cortex A9 processors are bloody powerful, while still using less power than an Atom.[15:50:47] <DDevine> I'm hanging out for a good ARM based netbook. So far the only half decent one I have seen is from Always Innovating.[15:51:44] <DDevine> That, and I saw a cheap UMPC that is reasonably good.[15:53:25] <DDevine> This one actually. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26366[15:55:51] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[15:58:47] *** HeTo_ is now known as HeTo[16:00:35] *** DDevine has quit IRC[16:04:47] *** Hugen has quit IRC[16:08:48] *** impy has quit IRC[16:09:50] *** impy has joined #haiku[16:12:03] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[16:12:15] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[16:13:33] *** Captain_Pike has joined #haiku[16:14:57] *** michail has quit IRC[16:21:04] *** idefix_xifedi has joined #haiku[16:25:33] *** brrant has joined #haiku[16:30:47] *** amuck has quit IRC[16:32:11] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[16:36:53] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[16:39:54] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[16:43:37] *** Logic has quit IRC[16:48:22] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[16:54:54] *** The123king has joined #haiku[17:02:39] *** hoelzro has joined #haiku[17:02:59] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[17:04:34] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[17:06:40] <The123king> how's may favorite little FOSS OS coming along?[17:07:20] *** amuck_ has quit IRC[17:08:09] <humdinger> slowly. :)[17:09:09] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[17:09:25] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[17:09:39] <humdinger> Hey VinDuv: Got a mail for you :)[17:10:51] *** amuck_ has joined #haiku[17:10:59] <VinDuv> Hi humdinger :)[17:12:46] *** [r4]_ has quit IRC[17:14:03] <humdinger> sent[17:17:43] <mmu_man> http://revolf.free.fr/beos/patches/golang-haiku-001.diff[17:18:04] <thotypous> mmu_man: nice :)[17:18:14] *** yamokidzu-it has joined #haiku[17:18:26] <mmu_man> let's see how far it builds now[17:18:37] <mmu_man> crap, they use shell scripts to call make...[17:18:45] <mmu_man> they remove all objects each time, it's painful[17:20:47] *** adamk has quit IRC[17:20:59] *** adamk has joined #haiku[17:21:27] *** nutela has joined #haiku[17:21:36] <nutela> lspci in Haiku?[17:21:46] * nutela needs to know which gfx card he has[17:22:09] <nutela> for ms wincrapshitkreten[17:22:16] <pulkomandy> mmu_man, i suppose you could disable clean.bash ? (from looking at the diff)[17:22:35] <mmu_man> nutela listdev[17:22:45] <nutela> Hey mmu_man! Thanks[17:22:45] <mmu_man> though I did port the real lspci :p[17:23:22] <nutela> I'm still tight? to windows crap because I have sony minidisc :-(([17:23:53] <nutela> Sony: HW: good/very good, SW: unbelievable crap[17:24:10] <mmu_man> just ask them for the specs and write drivers :p[17:24:31] <nutela> ha.ha.ha psst DRM[17:24:52] <nutela> mmu_man: it's worse then flash[17:24:56] <nutela> ;-)[17:25:00] <mmu_man> right[17:25:09] <mmu_man> so make read only driver[17:25:21] <mmu_man> so ppl can backup their files to a safer media[17:26:02] <nutela> That's the point, fsking sony even drm-ed my field recordings![17:26:47] <nutela> but anyway if it really needs to be portable->minidisc, if not so->MB pro (it is unbelievably quit[17:26:56] <nutela> quiet[17:27:10] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[17:27:30] <mmu_man> cannot find -lm[17:27:31] <mmu_man> pfff[17:27:55] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[17:28:36] <nutela> btw who here uses focus follow mouse / knows what it is? I've got an interesting find in mac os x(!)[17:29:16] * mmu_man does[17:29:18] *** thotypous has quit IRC[17:29:33] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[17:30:28] <nutela> you know you can open windows from behind the current window? eg. open a link from Mail while holding cmd will open a new safari window behind the Mail window[17:31:27] <nutela> with cmd-click you can move windows without raising them to the top which you can do only with ffm in haiku[17:32:24] <nutela> beos/haiku and mac os (x) have much cute gui in common wich makes them very nice to use[17:32:36] <pulkomandy> ffm is about not having to click a window to enable it[17:32:58] <pulkomandy> a side effect of this is you can click on a window that is below another one without raising it[17:33:25] <pulkomandy> but I believe someone implemented an amiga-like system[17:33:39] <pulkomandy> in this one you have to click window to enable them but that will never raise them[17:34:02] <pulkomandy> and there is some street-fighter-combo to raise a window, don't remember how it's done on haiku[17:34:17] *** korli has quit IRC[17:34:29] *** yamokidzu-it has quit IRC[17:38:20] *** joshc has joined #haiku[17:38:26] <humdinger> hmm. "Click to Focus" in Mouse prefs is a weird mode...[17:38:41] <humdinger> Took me 2 minutes to figure out how to get a window to front....[17:38:50] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:39:17] *** Captain_Pike has quit IRC[17:39:21] <Begasus> cya peeps[17:39:35] <humdinger> hell o[17:40:39] *** Begasus has quit IRC[17:41:08] *** judgen has quit IRC[17:41:44] *** nutela1 has joined #haiku[17:50:23] *** nutela has quit IRC[17:50:23] *** miqlas has quit IRC[17:51:17] *** Andrius has quit IRC[17:52:00] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[17:54:03] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[17:54:07] *** tqh has quit IRC[17:55:12] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:55:12] <CIA-69> axeld * r34004 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):[17:55:12] <CIA-69> * Changed parameter back to socklen_t (which follows POSIX, but not RFC 2553;[17:55:12] <CIA-69> obviously POSIX got it wrong, as socklen_t hardly makes sense here).[17:56:16] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[18:02:37] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[18:05:52] *** humdinger has quit IRC[18:06:45] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[18:07:42] *** nutela has joined #haiku[18:11:21] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[18:16:59] *** HaikUbuntu has joined #haiku[18:18:49] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[18:21:23] *** GeneralMaximus has joined #haiku[18:22:12] *** nutela1 has quit IRC[18:23:22] *** ukev has joined #haiku[18:27:33] *** Captain_Pike has joined #haiku[18:30:17] *** ukev has quit IRC[18:34:44] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[18:36:10] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[18:38:19] <Captain_Pike> test[18:38:41] *** redblue has joined #haiku[18:40:06] *** triplez has joined #haiku[18:41:18] <JonathanThompson> FAIL![18:42:49] *** nutela1 has joined #haiku[18:42:55] *** GeneralMaximus has quit IRC[18:43:09] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[18:44:14] *** {V}afk has quit IRC[18:44:41] *** ukev has joined #haiku[18:49:57] *** nutela1 has quit IRC[18:52:51] *** nutela has quit IRC[18:57:13] *** urnenfeld has joined #haiku[18:58:06] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[18:58:20] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[18:59:37] <Captain_Pike> Is there a way to show line numbers in PE?[19:00:18] <mmadia> it does so, in the bottom left corner.[19:00:37] <Captain_Pike> HURRR.... Thanks :)[19:00:45] <mmadia> :)[19:03:02] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[19:03:42] *** pulkomandy_ has joined #haiku[19:04:26] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[19:05:12] <Captain_Pike> I'm trying to compile/port the Irrlicht 3D engine[19:05:35] *** _Ruan_ has joined #haiku[19:09:54] *** Hugen has quit IRC[19:10:26] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[19:19:49] *** markos__ has joined #haiku[19:21:43] *** luroh has joined #haiku[19:26:53] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:27:03] *** markos_ has quit IRC[19:27:03] *** markos__ is now known as markos_[19:28:31] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[19:28:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[19:30:25] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[19:31:12] *** VinDuv-mbp has joined #haiku[19:41:08] *** gtaw is now known as gootaw[19:41:14] *** gootaw is now known as gtaw[19:42:06] *** nutela has joined #haiku[19:46:43] <mmu_man> didn't we have a readonly BFS IFS somewhere ?[19:46:45] <mmu_man> (for win)[19:47:20] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:49:11] <mmadia> do you mean the one that was for win98?[19:50:39] <HeTo> was that SkyFS thing an IFS or just an app?[19:53:03] <Advant_> just an app[19:53:24] <Advant_> Darknesss didn't finish it either I dont think[19:55:19] <mmu_man> oh, nostalgia: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/03/29/windows_on_a_database_sliced/[19:55:27] <mmu_man> Advant_ yes it's jsut an app[19:57:16] <CIA-69> scottmc * r469 /haikuports/trunk/ (app-i18n app-i18n/anthy/anthy-9100.bep app-i18n/anthy): Initial .bep file for libanthy.[19:57:16] <CIA-69> scottmc * r470 /haikuports/trunk/app-i18n/anthy/anthy.OptionalPackageDescription: Adding an .OPD file for anthy.[19:57:16] <CIA-69> scottmc * r471 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/libdvdcss/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Initial .bep file for libdvdcss, plus renamed and moved patch so that the .bep file works correctly.[19:57:18] *** philcostin has joined #haiku[19:57:35] <CIA-69> scottmc * r472 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/libdvdnav/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Initial .bep file for libdvdnav, this one won't work until haikuporter supports .bz2 files though. 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The Irllicht 3D engine Hello World demo now runs on last night's nightly.[20:24:57] *** |Qeos| has quit IRC[20:25:03] <CIA-69> scottmc * r469 /haikuports/trunk/ (app-i18n app-i18n/anthy/anthy-9100.bep app-i18n/anthy): Initial .bep file for libanthy.[20:25:04] <CIA-69> scottmc * r470 /haikuports/trunk/app-i18n/anthy/anthy.OptionalPackageDescription: Adding an .OPD file for anthy.[20:25:05] <Captain_Pike> It shows a 3D rendered human model[20:25:09] <CIA-69> scottmc * r471 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/libdvdcss/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Initial .bep file for libdvdcss, plus renamed and moved patch so that the .bep file works correctly.[20:25:15] <CIA-69> scottmc * r472 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/libdvdnav/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Initial .bep file for libdvdnav, this one won't work until haikuporter supports .bz2 files though. 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Been fun being able to switch them on and off, like I used to do. :)[22:19:22] *** urnenfeld has quit IRC[22:22:42] <philcostin> NathanP: try switching them both off to see what happens ;-)[22:24:24] * JonathanThompson switches off NathanP's processor for fun[22:24:28] <pulkomandy_> you can't do that anymore on Haiku :)[22:24:42] <philcostin> you could before? o_o :P[22:25:03] <JonathanThompson> A "feature" :P[22:25:30] <philcostin> we need a dialog box that says "That would be a bit stupid now, wouldn't it" and a button labelled "Do it!"[22:25:34] <helf|laptop> huh[22:25:41] <helf|laptop> er[22:25:42] <helf|laptop> ww[22:25:53] <NathanP> JonathanThompson, I tried. It said it didn't work. :([22:26:04] <JonathanThompson> Yeah, tell them they're idiots, but fully allow them to be idiots :P[22:26:11] <philcostin> :D[22:26:31] <NathanP> philcostin is right, we need a Shift+Do It button for that.[22:26:33] <JonathanThompson> What's freedom if you're forced to do certain things???[22:26:48] <NathanP> RMS wouldn't stand for it.[22:26:54] <philcostin> absolutely[22:26:58] <JonathanThompson> Who gives a crap abou RMS?[22:27:01] <JonathanThompson> +t[22:27:04] *** cb88 has joined #haiku[22:27:07] <philcostin> RMS?[22:27:08] <helf|laptop> a lot of people[22:27:08] <NathanP> No one, but it works.[22:27:09] <helf|laptop> sadly[22:27:20] <helf|laptop> philcostin, the stress disorder[22:27:22] <helf|laptop> ;)[22:27:27] <Xpistos|work> I am a Linux guy and I don't have a high opinion of RMS[22:27:29] <NathanP> I respected the man at first, but he became an OSS troll.[22:27:35] <Xpistos|work> I appreciate what he did but damn[22:27:45] <Xpistos|work> Lay off Miguel De Casa already[22:27:46] <helf|laptop> philcostin, Richard Stallman[22:27:50] <cb88> hurd isn't especially inspiring either...[22:27:59] <NathanP> Hurd, since 1980.[22:28:02] <philcostin> Oh I know, I mean.. Stallman cares about RMS[22:28:03] <helf|laptop> cb88, just you wait. hud will rock your socks off[22:28:16] <helf|laptop> o[22:28:17] <helf|laptop> h[22:28:42] <cb88> I don't have any trouble loosing socks without hurd actually[22:28:48] <NathanP> Surprising how Hurd has taken so long, though I recall an interview in which RMS said himself they designed it in a way that bit them back.[22:28:56] <DraX> RMS is actually a huge fan of forced freedom[22:28:58] *** miqlas has quit IRC[22:29:05] <DraX> the GPL is the epitome of forced freedom[22:29:10] <Xpistos|work> DraX: I like the way you put that[22:29:20] <philcostin> yeah, I kind of like the idea of communism providing it isn't state-enforced.[22:29:20] <NathanP> I'm more of a CC guy.[22:29:21] <helf|laptop> That is an oxymoron[22:29:22] <JonathanThompson> "Forced freedom" has a proper oxymoronic ring to it :P[22:29:24] <cb88> you know they could have just forked a bsd kernel...[22:29:55] <HeTo> not when GNU was created[22:30:12] <NathanP> BSD has restrictions when they started, if I recall.[22:30:14] <helf|laptop> philcostin, good luck with that :P it goes against human nature for the most part[22:30:19] <Xpistos|work> I am all for freedom, so when I chose to run windows (not that I would) good for me[22:30:32] *** Logic has joined #haiku[22:30:41] * helf|laptop is running nextstep, lunix, windows right now[22:30:45] <cb88> true... but they have redesigned hurd more than once since then..[22:30:45] <NathanP> If RMS knew that, he's shove a gNewSense CD down your throught, Xpistos|work.[22:30:51] <philcostin> haha[22:31:13] <Xpistos|work> I have used gNewSense and Installed all kinds of propiertary stuff[22:31:20] <Xpistos|work> just to do it[22:31:21] <cb88> X.x[22:31:22] <NathanP> GHASP![22:31:54] <Xpistos|work> helf|laptop: Never heard of nextstep though or lunix for that matter. lol[22:31:59] <cb88> gNewSense + buntu Multiverse != gNewSense[22:32:16] <philcostin> helf|laptop: that's the problem - human nature... the freedom to take freedoms to get on top.. but the difference with software is you can't TAKE something that's BSD or MIT licensed since you still have the original copy... (not like someone is losing money)[22:32:17] * JonathanThompson thinks Xpistos|work is out of touch[22:32:23] <NathanP> Xpistos|work, NextStep was an OS by Next, a company Steve Jobs founded when ousted by Apple.[22:32:43] <Xpistos|work> NathanP: Oh okay, yeah I am familar. Sorry[22:32:52] <cb88> are you actually running nextstep or gnustep?[22:32:53] <Xpistos|work> I get blinders when Jobs is invoked[22:32:53] <helf|laptop> NeXT[22:32:55] <helf|laptop> :P[22:32:59] <NathanP> Fine, NeXT* :p[22:33:02] <helf|laptop> its Mach with a bsd personality[22:33:09] <helf|laptop> and hte precursor to OSX[22:33:13] <JonathanThompson> helf|laptop: is a neoretrotechnonerd :P[22:33:18] <helf|laptop> :P[22:33:23] <NathanP> God bless you for running NextStep, it's ancient by now. :p[22:33:32] <helf|laptop> Xpistos|work, and lunix is a reference to an old joke[22:33:39] <helf|laptop> NathanP, it is :P[22:33:42] <NathanP> Linux is not UNIX! :p[22:33:47] <philcostin> or of course A/UX which begat Next[22:33:49] <JonathanThompson> But, it still works :P[22:33:53] <JonathanThompson> (NextStep)[22:33:54] <philcostin> (I think)[22:33:58] <philcostin> maybe not actually.[22:34:00] <helf|laptop> A/UX has no relation to NeXTstep[22:34:13] <NathanP> Let's just chill down with some nice Cocoa.[22:34:24] <cb88> lol[22:34:26] <philcostin> GNO[22:34:28] <Xpistos|work> First boot[22:34:35] <JonathanThompson> IF you burn it, will you end up with just Carbon???[22:34:46] <cb88> NathanP: are you refering to the apple graphics system XD[22:34:51] <Xpistos|work> TAB[22:34:55] * NathanP trys to imagine a non-techy person trying to comprehend this.[22:35:00] <helf|laptop> :P[22:35:07] <helf|laptop> It would be like reading latin[22:35:13] *** michaelvo has joined #haiku[22:35:16] <cb88> twm ftw?[22:35:18] <Xpistos|work> I must have screwed the pooch on the install though[22:35:20] <JonathanThompson> cb88: that's Aqua, to be naming just the graphics system, in more particular, Quartz of some variation.[22:35:23] <helf|laptop> Looks familiar, but damn if I understand any of it[22:35:26] <cb88> ic[22:35:26] <JonathanThompson> Cocoa is more than just GUI.[22:35:38] <michaelvo> ?[22:35:48] <helf|laptop> HI MICHAELVO[22:35:56] <cb88> I have never poked apple products much before..[22:35:56] * JonathanThompson stomps on the yelling helf|laptop[22:35:57] <helf|laptop> Welcome to #Haiku[22:36:04] <helf|laptop> Where you dreams will be fulfilled[22:36:08] *** michaelvo has quit IRC[22:36:13] <JonathanThompson> And your worst nightmares, too :P[22:36:15] <philcostin> How do I indent a selection of text by 1 tab in Pe?[22:36:17] <helf|laptop> Guess he had no dreams[22:36:28] <helf|laptop> hit tab?[22:36:31] <philcostin> ...[22:36:47] <philcostin> nope.. that erased everything[22:36:48] <Xpistos|work> Can I get a hand setting this up? IE how many partitions do I need[22:36:55] <helf|laptop> turn on insert?[22:36:59] <philcostin> hmmm[22:36:59] <JonathanThompson> First of all: don't have it selected, THEN hit tab :P[22:37:01] <NathanP> One partition, Xpistos|work.[22:37:13] <cb88> helf|laptop: well you had to go and yell at him...[22:37:19] <JonathanThompson> (With the cursor before the indenting target)[22:37:26] <NathanP> Haiku uses one partition on the HD, you just need for format it as BeFS, which you can do from the Installer.[22:37:27] <Xpistos|work> NathanP: Creating one partition[22:37:36] <philcostin> I mean.. can I indent a selected block of text all in one go?[22:37:49] <JonathanThompson> I'd always look at the Edit menu for such options.[22:37:54] <JonathanThompson> If it's not there, it likely won't.[22:37:54] <philcostin> like in textmate on mac or kate on linux[22:37:55] <Xpistos|work> One Active partion with the BE File System[22:38:03] * philcostin looks[22:38:05] * JonathanThompson hasn't memorized Pe, hasn't used it in years, and didn't use it much[22:38:07] <Xpistos|work> Writing Changes[22:38:28] <helf|laptop> bbl[22:38:30] <helf|laptop> pizza time[22:38:47] <cb88> helf|laptop: just had pizza time here actually[22:38:53] <Xpistos|work> Selecting Target parition[22:39:06] <JonathanThompson> It's always time for pizza ;)[22:39:06] <Xpistos|work> Write Boot Sector to 'Haiku"???[22:39:18] <NathanP> No, just click install, Xpistos|work.[22:39:31] <Xpistos|work> Installing away[22:39:52] <cb88> *Idea* pizza timer demo app XD[22:39:59] <Xpistos|work> you know, it goes much faster when you give it a a gig of ram instead of just 64mn[22:40:01] <Xpistos|work> mb[22:40:13] <NathanP> Haiku[22:40:21] <cb88> Xpistos|work: strange I noticed that too[22:40:22] <JonathanThompson> Why on earth would you ever want to let it use so much in the way of resources? :P[22:40:36] <cb88> cache[22:41:34] <Xpistos|work> JonathanThompson: My Box has 4 gb of ram so I like to spread the love, I am a haiku virgin[22:41:36] <cb88> the compute server at my school is has about 55Gb of data cached... lol I don't even have a partition that big here[22:41:56] *** NathanP has quit IRC[22:42:21] *** NathanP has joined #Haiku[22:42:28] <NathanP> Sorry, my system went kabooie.[22:42:48] <NathanP> Started a video, went fullscreen and everything stopped responding, except for the audio.[22:43:24] *** adsas has left #haiku[22:43:55] <Xpistos|work> what is the defualt IM on Haiku?[22:44:19] * cb88 is soo dissappointed... my MIPS 32bit processor project has turned into a 16bit UNC-Charlotte processor with no FPU[22:44:30] <NathanP> None, but you can try IM Kit, I suppose.[22:44:30] <Xpistos|work> Keep your finges crossed, rebooting now[22:44:42] <cb88> Xpistos|work: vision?[22:44:50] <Xpistos|work> I go right to a grub prompt[22:44:50] <NathanP> Vision is IRC.[22:45:09] *** philcostin has left #haiku[22:45:13] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[22:45:18] <cb88> I think some work was done on it recently as well... to get it working again[22:45:26] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[22:45:51] <Xpistos|work> Do I have to do something special to get into the desktop?[22:45:55] <cb88> imkit that is[22:46:17] <NathanP> Add Haiku to the bootloader, Xpistos|work.[22:46:25] <NathanP> As it seems you're using Grub.[22:47:04] <cb88> you chainload haiku just like windows....[22:48:12] <Xpistos|work> Nada[22:48:55] *** NathanP has quit IRC[22:48:57] <Xpistos|work> I try chainloader haiku and get error 1[22:49:16] *** NathanP has joined #Haiku[22:49:22] <NathanP> I has found a bug.[22:49:37] <cb88> hmm are you just using dd to copy the image?[22:49:54] *** NathanP has quit IRC[22:50:40] <cb88> Xpistos|work: you would have to run makebootable on it if you aren't building it directly to a partition[22:51:12] *** killermouse0 has quit IRC[22:52:06] *** binaryimpulse has joined #haiku[22:52:37] *** NathanP has joined #Haiku[22:52:49] <NathanP> Troublesome.[22:53:04] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[22:53:12] <Xpistos|work> ran makeactive and still nothing[22:54:10] <cb88> does the partition show up in cfdisk?[22:54:17] <Xpistos|work> rootnoverify (hd0,0)[22:54:44] <Xpistos|work> makeactive (hd0,0)[22:54:48] <Xpistos|work> chainloader +1[22:54:50] <Xpistos|work> reboot[22:54:51] <Xpistos|work> nothing[22:54:55] <NathanP> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix[22:54:57] <NathanP> Heh.[22:55:46] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[22:56:19] *** [Katisu] has joined #haiku[22:56:28] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[23:02:15] *** Hugen has quit IRC[23:05:06] *** gobgob2 has joined #haiku[23:08:43] <CaptainPike> http://robotarcade.com/haiku/haikuirrlicht.jpg[23:09:21] <NathanP> That looks interesting for several reasons.[23:11:45] <CaptainPike> It just magically compiles.[23:11:52] * JonathanThompson awaits NathanP's proposals for Haiku mascots[23:12:03] <NathanP> Not today, JonathanThompson.[23:12:04] <cb88> X.x[23:12:20] <JonathanThompson> Tomorrow, then? :P[23:12:25] *** gobgob2 has quit IRC[23:12:27] <NathanP> Possible.[23:14:04] * NathanP looks over his Flash Media Server.[23:14:13] <NathanP> This beast be making me insane.[23:14:36] <JonathanThompson> Then it's a redundant beast, NathanP :D[23:14:55] <NathanP> Does though want me to recite Bad to the BONE again?[23:15:12] * JonathanThompson wonders which word was left out[23:15:23] <JonathanThompson> Or words.[23:17:15] *** Sryche has joined #haiku[23:17:47] <NathanP> For some reason Haiku isn't booting for me...[23:18:02] <NathanP> I get to the fifth icon of magical magicness, and then it stops.[23:18:05] <JonathanThompson> IT no longer loves you![23:18:16] <NathanP> IT never did![23:18:27] * JonathanThompson disguises NathanP with the Pennywise makeup[23:18:28] <NathanP> Everyone knows the BeMan wants me dead.[23:18:48] <NathanP> Why do you think I don't use Google Maps anymore?[23:19:11] <JonathanThompson> Because you use Yahoo! maps instead, because you like it better? :)[23:19:20] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[23:19:39] <NathanP> Possible. But I use Bing.[23:19:50] * JonathanThompson shrugs[23:20:02] * NathanP says outloud out his window "BING!" "BING!" BING!"[23:20:20] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:20:33] * JonathanThompson hands NathanP a "BONG!" "BONG!" "BONG!" to go with his "BING!" "BING!" "BING!"[23:20:50] *** judgen_ has joined #haiku[23:20:52] <NathanP> What happens when you mix "BING!" with "BONG!"?[23:20:54] <JonathanThompson> Avon calling![23:20:58] <NathanP> You get... "BOING!"[23:20:59] <NathanP> ;)[23:21:19] <JonathanThompson> "Hey, who's that BING BONG at the door???" "Avon calling!"[23:21:39] <NathanP> Hey, I love Avon. I use their products all the time.[23:22:05] <JonathanThompson> So *THAT'S* why you have weird colored marks on your underwear![23:22:06] <cb88> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTyfqVOFTFc << haiku mascott ?[23:22:23] <NathanP> Possible, but I can think of another reason, JonathanThompson. ;)[23:22:31] <NathanP> Also, who said I wear any underwear? ;)[23:23:02] * JonathanThompson remembers not to ever try to give NathanP a wedgie[23:23:07] <NathanP> You know who I think should be Haiku's mascot?[23:23:09] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[23:23:44] <NathanP> Psst... Someone say "who?"[23:23:44] * JonathanThompson waits for it[23:24:05] *** joshc has quit IRC[23:24:15] <NathanP> Ah, forget it.: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3688/3882055032b2412863e3.jpg[23:24:19] * JonathanThompson pushes NathanP into his own trap[23:24:32] <Xpistos|work> LOL That is a funny wallpaper[23:24:38] <NathanP> Didn't see that coming, eh?[23:24:49] <JonathanThompson> Is that a Haiku woman in the box, or are you just happy to see me???[23:25:05] <NathanP> Who said it was either?[23:25:20] * JonathanThompson raises no hands[23:25:42] <NathanP> I passed that image around in a forum thread and this is what was made of it:[23:25:53] <NathanP> http://i33.tinypic.com/1jaob4.jpg[23:26:02] <NathanP> http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3346/itsover9000.jpg[23:26:03] <JonathanThompson> NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!![23:27:40] <NathanP> And of course, there's--- What's that? The server's down?[23:27:52] *** pulkomandy_ has quit IRC[23:27:53] <NathanP> Well, is it gonna' be back up? No? Damn.[23:29:24] * JonathanThompson suspects NathanP is emulating his hero, Brain, and is trying to take over the world in his own warped domination scheme[23:29:28] <cb88> awe... that was mean[23:29:49] <JonathanThompson> Poor Brain, yes ;_[23:29:51] <JonathanThompson> ;)[23:29:51] <NathanP> I'm more of a Pinky guy.[23:29:59] * JonathanThompson poits NathanP[23:30:22] <cb88> you know it never said *which* once was the genius[23:30:34] <NathanP> And after that giant hamburger I just had, I think I'm having a heartattack.[23:30:35] <JonathanThompson> True enough.[23:30:45] <JonathanThompson> Probably just indigestion.[23:30:54] <NathanP> We all know Brain was insane. See? It even rhymes.[23:31:02] <JonathanThompson> Unless you have a family history of such things: you're a young pup, aren't you, NathanP ?[23:31:16] <NathanP> No, I'm a parakeet.[23:31:27] <JonathanThompson> Perhaps it's merely heartburn :)[23:31:37] * JonathanThompson feeds NathanP some pellets[23:31:38] <NathanP> Dear God, quickly! To the Prego![23:31:50] <JonathanThompson> And, if you want fast food, I can load them into the pellet gun.[23:32:04] <cb88> potato shooter anyone?[23:32:05] <NathanP> Oh boy!--- Wait... I know what that is!@[23:32:33] *** warpdesign has left #haiku[23:32:42] *** CaptainPike has quit IRC[23:33:15] * NathanP looks over the PHP files...[23:33:30] * NathanP edits the ---inc.php files and adds a function.[23:33:53] * NathanP looks over sheepishly at the Haiku chat.[23:34:12] <cb88> ah! Minix 3 has shared memory now... may be X11 won't eat 100+ mb ram[23:34:14] <NathanP> I'm not making a Haiku-related site, if that's what you think.[23:34:18] <NathanP> No, it's a NetPositive site.[23:34:33] <NathanP> Minix? God, it's been ages since I've ran it.[23:34:42] <JonathanThompson> All aimed towards full capability via NetPositive?[23:35:18] <NathanP> No CSS since 2012![23:35:36] <cb88> trying to think of something to run on a sparcstation 10... linux is kinda broken... an Minix might be something I could understand[23:35:50] <NathanP> Run SunOS, why don'tcha'?[23:36:06] <cb88> .... cause[23:36:13] <NathanP> Go on...[23:36:17] * NathanP motions.[23:36:47] <cb88> sunOS .... where is the fun in that?[23:36:57] <NathanP> Well, Java.[23:36:59] *** Logic has quit IRC[23:37:10] <cb88> X.x.... I dispise java with a passion[23:37:12] * JonathanThompson sings, "Here comes the Sun(OS) du du de du du!"[23:37:27] <NathanP> JonathanThompson, GET OUTTA' MA HEAD![23:37:28] <JonathanThompson> It's all right.[23:37:46] * JonathanThompson cues guitar solo[23:37:56] <NathanP> I don't care for Java much either.[23:38:08] <JonathanThompson> I prefer Cocoa :P[23:38:10] <NathanP> Pains me that it's needed for some server software.[23:38:19] * JonathanThompson doesn't drink Java[23:38:24] <NathanP> I'd prefer a Java free-environment. Same with Flash.[23:38:29] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[23:38:42] <NathanP> And when you need Java for a Flash Media Server?[23:38:47] <NathanP> God help us all.[23:38:50] <Xpistos|work> That's for the help fellas! Have a good one[23:38:52] *** Xpistos|work has left #haiku[23:39:03] <cb88> I will .. use the gnu clone muuaahah...[23:39:05] <JonathanThompson> An odd sentence.[23:39:06] <NathanP> Xpistos must work at Sun...[23:39:19] *** idefix_xifedi has left #haiku[23:40:01] <NathanP> So, I called Finally Fast.com yesterday.[23:40:04] <cb88> I was pointing out how grub works.... out of channel...[23:40:08] <NathanP> I requested help in getting their software to work.[23:40:12] <JonathanThompson> :P[23:40:14] <NathanP> Seems they don't support BeOS.[23:40:19] <JonathanThompson> Why'd you fall for their scam?[23:40:24] <NathanP> Took 'em around thirty minutes. :p[23:40:42] <cb88> lol[23:40:42] <JonathanThompson> Ah, you were trolling them bigtime :P[23:41:13] <NathanP> "Help! I can't get the installer to run!"[23:41:22] <NathanP> "What version of Windows are you running?"[23:41:36] <JonathanThompson> "Well, I'll describe them to you!"[23:41:37] <JonathanThompson> :P[23:41:39] <NathanP> "I don't know... I think 5.0.3, but it may be with BONE."[23:41:48] *** Captain_Pike has joined #haiku[23:42:06] <cb88> ROFL....[23:42:24] <cb88> I'm sure that went over well...[23:43:02] <NathanP> I was gonna' call again about running it on a bread toaster, but was tired.[23:43:11] <JonathanThompson> You're nasty :P[23:43:45] <NathanP> I love how they only use Mac's in that commercial.[23:43:49] <JonathanThompson> Sort of like the one time some company (Sprint?) back in the mid 90's wanted me to switch to them, I had them describe everything, then, at the end, decided I didn't want it: after spending half an hour.[23:43:55] <NathanP> And when they use Windows, it's IE with a Firefox error page on a Mac.[23:44:25] <JonathanThompson> Could be even more odd, NathanP : call them up using the Photon GUI under QNX :P[23:44:35] <NathanP> Ha ha ha.[23:44:53] <NathanP> I'm tempted to start a campaign where I have people call demanding a BeOS port.[23:45:03] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[23:45:21] <NathanP> Just to say on BeBits.com a copy of "FinallyFast BeOS!"[23:45:26] <NathanP> See.*[23:45:41] <JonathanThompson> Or, try this out for size: nest virtual machines deeply, and have many variations of Windows running, all on a Mac running OSX as the main host OS, running Linux as a host with Windows as a host to Linux as a host to Haiku.... you get the picture :P[23:45:43] <NathanP> "Is your BeOS running slow, is it suffering from the wear and tear of use?"[23:46:01] <NathanP> Lmao.[23:46:10] <NathanP> Reminds me of that Russian Doll content, hmmm?[23:46:11] <JonathanThompson> Then, they ask, "Which version of Windows are you running?" answer, "Which one do you want to work on first?"[23:46:15] <NathanP> Contest.*[23:46:28] <NathanP> Ha ha ha.[23:46:53] <JonathanThompson> That should throw them for an (infinite) loop![23:47:39] <NathanP> For April Fools day, I should make a mock copy of Finally Fast for Haiku.[23:47:51] <NathanP> Release it on BeBits, see what happens.[23:48:50] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[23:49:05] <JonathanThompson> I pity the fool![23:49:34] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[23:49:35] <NathanP> First, I need a copy of FinallyFast to examine it.[23:49:40] <NathanP> Anyone a sucker who bought it?[23:49:50] * JonathanThompson doesn't know anyone[23:50:08] <JonathanThompson> I sincerely doubt they could make my machine faster with adding their software than I could by working on it by hand.[23:50:32] <NathanP> I don't trust a company selling Windows software where they can't even get PC's.[23:50:50] <NathanP> If I need tune-up work, I either do it by hand or use Auslogics.[23:51:00] <JonathanThompson> And if they're displaying Firefox error messages on "IE" on a Mac...[23:51:07] <NathanP> Yep.[23:51:41] <ari-free_> finallyfast.com As seen on TV. Along with other quality products such as Enzyte and headON[23:51:42] <NathanP> It even says, "Produce not for Mac."[23:51:57] <NathanP> Product.*[23:52:00] <JonathanThompson> Here's one that'd be funny to pull on them, NathanP: install Windows 3.1 and call them up :P[23:52:01] <NathanP> Gah, bad typing day.[23:52:07] <NathanP> LMAO![23:52:14] <NathanP> I've been meaning to install 3.1, actually.[23:52:46] <JonathanThompson> "But, I've got the registry, but your product doesn't install!"[23:53:07] <JonathanThompson> See if they note when you mention you're using regedit, and not the 32 bit one :P[23:53:09] <NathanP> "While you're trying to figure it out, I'll play some Reversii."[23:53:44] * JonathanThompson wonders how much money that company is making off that stupidity[23:53:58] <NathanP> Allot, since they scam you with hidden fees and charges.[23:54:09] <NathanP> Like FreeCreditReport.com.[23:54:14] <JonathanThompson> Ah, yes...[23:54:27] <NathanP> Amazing, a credit bureau is scamming people.[23:54:51] <JonathanThompson> Well, you know what they say: give credit where credit is due![23:54:57] *** hoelzro has quit IRC[23:55:47] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[23:56:26] <NathanP> Did I mention I have NEVER in all my years won a game of Reversi?[23:56:44] <JonathanThompson> You have now![23:56:51] <NathanP> No, I just lost again.[23:57:10] <JonathanThompson> No no no, you've now mentioned that you've never won a game of Reversi![23:57:13] <ari-free_> wow even against newbies in yahoo games?[23:57:22] <NathanP> I don't play those.[23:57:26] <ari-free_> who give away the corner in 5 moves[23:57:31] <NathanP> I only play the origional from Windows and the one in Gnome.[23:58:29] <ari-free_> reversi is very popular in asia.[23:59:11] <NathanP> I'm sure Steve Balmer's cheap car salesman suite is, too.