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[00:00:59] <demetrio> euank, i want to translate to brazilian portuguese, i think it alredy being translated
[00:03:21] <euank> it could be, there may be a section on the website detailing progress.
[00:04:07] <demetrio> euank, i'll look for it
[00:08:02] <euank> this might help:
[00:08:02] <euank> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/Wiki-for-translationlocalization-teams,12
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[00:10:09] <demetrio> euank, thank you!
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[00:13:08] <euank> http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/pulkomandy/2009-09-24_haiku_locale_kit_translator_handbook
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[00:17:10] <demetrio> euank, thank you, i think it's the necessary for now ;)
[00:19:10] <euank> no probs
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[00:51:16] <pfoetche1> http://offog.org/code/gselt.html hm something like that could be cool for haiku, too...
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[01:39:21] <CIA-46> kirilla * r33888 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/backgrounds/ (Backgrounds.cpp BackgroundsView.cpp BackgroundsView.h): Opening Backgrounds on/in a folder was broken, now fixed. Layout-rewrite of parts of the GUI. Rewrote the monitor drawing to fit the layout, for better or worse. Clean-up will follow.
[01:39:28] <mmu_screen> pfoetche1: http://bebits.com/search?search=clipup&x=0&y=0
[01:39:45] <mmu_screen> and there seems to be another app discussed on the Basho thread on the ml
[01:39:48] <mmu_screen> n8
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[01:49:21] <netstar> Is anyone here running Haiku natively?
[01:49:38] <umccullough> not at this very moment
[01:49:43] <umccullough> need something?
[01:49:53] <netstar> coffee!
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[02:03:52] <adamk_> Bah... Latest OSS from mercurial is still crashing on my sblive.
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[02:06:24] <adamk_> Since it seems to be specific to Haiku, should I open up a bug report for it on the development tracker?
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[02:30:24] <jmayfield> f--k columbia
[02:30:32] <jmayfield> colombia even
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[02:32:48] <umccullough> yeah, screw columbia records too
[02:33:04] <drano> har har
[02:33:13] <jmayfield> not to mention columbus the dude
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[02:37:15] <jmayfield> oh yeah! pb + honey
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[02:39:36] <netstar> I just compiled im_kit on a gcc4 system yet it looks for r4.so files, can anyone help?
[02:42:14] <umccullough> link failed then?
[02:42:36] <umccullough> sounds like the makefile (or jamfile, or whatever) is hardcoded to link against libstdc++.r4.so
[02:42:49] <umccullough> on a gcc4 system that would be just libstdc++.so
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[02:50:05] <netstar> where can I get libsocket.so and libbind.so from?
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[02:57:21] <kokito> Ryan and Joe live on radio: http://stream.tllts.org:8000/tllts
[03:00:57] <umccullough> netstar, haiku doesn't have libsocket.so or libbind.so - you need to link to libnetwork.so instead
[03:01:12] <umccullough> netstar, sounds like IM_kit is still designed for BeOS :(
[03:01:48] <umccullough> on a gcc2 version of Haiku, there are symlinks from libsocket.so and libbind.so pointing to libnetwork.so - so maybe that's why it works for some people
[03:01:54] <mmadia> not unless its build system was recently broken.
[03:02:08] <umccullough> but a properly compiled haiku app should never link to those
[03:02:10] <mmadia> pier normally targets gcc4.
[03:02:23] <umccullough> maybe there's a different makefile for gcc4?
[03:02:35] <umccullough> sometimes developers will create alternate makefiles
[03:02:50] <mmadia> no. he uses jam.
[03:02:54] <umccullough> ok
[03:02:58] <umccullough> then who knows :P
[03:03:32] <umccullough> almost sounds like netstar has downloaded a pre-compiled version made for beos or gcc2 haiku :P
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[03:14:41] <umccullough> well, i definitely see logic in the Jamfiles to choose either -lsocket or -lnetwork depending if it's beos or haiku
[03:14:57] <umccullough> and both -lsocket and -lbind if it's zeta
[03:15:27] <umccullough> so, looks sane to me
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[03:25:29] <netstar> can someone add me on MSN?
[03:25:35] <netstar> alspinky at hotmail dot com
[03:26:37] <umccullough> maybe pop into ##linux and tell them you're a 16 year old girl who wants to chat
[03:27:29] <umccullough> of course..that could backfire on you
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[03:58:03] <jmayfield_> there is no language in our lungs
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[04:15:49] <CIA-46> aldeck * r33889 /haiku/trunk/src/tools/checkstyle/ (checkstyle.py utils.py):
[04:15:49] <CIA-46> * Add multi file/directory support
[04:15:49] <CIA-46> * Refined some rules to not include the new-line
[04:15:49] <CIA-46> * Added 'windows line ending' rule
[04:15:49] <CIA-46> * Enhanced the html output, not an expert there though
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[06:35:53] <fengshaun> Hi, I burned the haiku r1alpha1 cd and now when I want to boot it, it freezes on the disk icon (the middle dist icon with a leaf on it). I can boot this CD (actually a DVD) in a VM without problem! (I have an AMD processor if that matters!)
[06:44:38] <DDevine> Its not the processor, it would be the HDD interface I think.
[06:45:22] <jprostko> yeah, the ATA driver is still kind of flakey for many people
[06:46:00] <helf|laptop> would using sata in AHCI mode matter?
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[06:47:56] <jprostko> that's what i use, and everything seems to work fine. no cdrom of any kind here though (have a netbook)
[06:48:17] <helf|laptop> ah
[06:48:31] <helf|laptop> just tossing that out :) havent tried it yet
[06:52:49] <fengshaun> I'll now try to "disable DMA in safemode settings" to see what happens!
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[06:55:40] <jmayfield_> hi
[06:56:01] <helf|laptop> hey jmayfield
[06:56:24] <jmayfield_> how's stuff?
[06:57:15] <helf|laptop> good
[06:57:23] <helf|laptop> making a trip to texas friday morning for the weekend
[06:57:38] <jmayfield_> um...woo?
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[06:57:42] <jmayfield_> :-p
[06:57:45] <helf|laptop> :P
[06:58:08] <jmayfield_> where in texas?
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[06:58:32] <helf|laptop> dfw area
[06:58:42] <helf|laptop> moving my little sister out to my older sisters place
[06:58:57] <Hugen_> hey
[06:59:20] <helf|laptop> hey Hugen_
[06:59:40] <Hugen_> hi helf
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[07:09:22] <helf|laptop> night
[07:09:43] <Hugen_> cya
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[08:10:16] <Begasus> moin
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[10:29:23] <fyysik> hi ppl
[10:29:44] <CIA-46> aldeck * r33890 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/haiku3d/ (10 files in 3 dirs):
[10:29:44] <CIA-46> * Fix many style issues. Quaternion and Vector3 still show some of their foreign
[10:29:44] <CIA-46> origin. Yes.. shame on me, i had even imported their non unix line endings :)
[10:29:44] <CIA-46> Will make them BCitizens soon.
[10:29:56] <fyysik> where I can download python 2.6 for BeOS(BONE)? There is 2.4 only at bebits
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[11:18:53] <StreaK|ON> hi all
[11:21:02] <OmniMancer> hi
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[12:04:57] <CIA-46> axeld * r33891 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/activitymonitor/DataSource.cpp: * Changed the default color of the block cache memory usage source.
[12:06:05] <CIA-46> axeld * r33892 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/cache/block_cache.cpp:
[12:06:05] <CIA-46> * NewBlock(), and Allocate() will now try to reuse existing memory in low
[12:06:05] <CIA-46> resource situations.
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[12:32:27] <CIA-46> axeld * r33893 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/stack/net_buffer.cpp:
[12:32:27] <CIA-46> * Replaced ENABLE_DEBUGGER_COMMANDS with ENABLE_STATS.
[12:32:27] <CIA-46> * Added new ENABLE_DEBUGGER_COMMANDS that enables the new "net_buffer" KDL
[12:32:27] <CIA-46> command to dump a net buffer.
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[13:29:37] <CIA-46> axeld * r33894 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/tracker/ (InfoWindow.cpp Utilities.cpp):
[13:29:37] <CIA-46> * The InfoWindow's name text view is now using DisallowFilenameKeys() as well.
[13:29:37] <CIA-46> * DisallowFilenameKeys() no longer forbids the ':', as there is no reason to do
[13:29:37] <CIA-46> so.
[13:29:37] <CIA-46> * Automatic whitespace cleanup.
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[13:55:00] <CIA-46> axeld * r33895 /haiku/trunk/src/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
[13:55:00] <CIA-46> * common_rename() now checks the name for validity before passing it on to the
[13:55:00] <CIA-46> file systems, so those checks don't have to be duplicated there, anymore.
[13:55:00] <CIA-46> * Minor cleanup, mostly automatic whitespace.
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[14:47:55] <CIA-46> axeld * r33896 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/cdda/kernel_interface.cpp:
[14:47:55] <CIA-46> * cdda did not send any node monitoring updates, confusing Tracker when renaming
[14:47:55] <CIA-46> files.
[14:47:55] <CIA-46> * Minor cleanup.
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[14:53:01] <leszek> hi
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[16:19:49] <xspager> i'v got this trying to build http://haiku.pastebin.com/f14b2f6be
[16:20:14] <xspager> ops! Hi to everyone!
[16:20:52] <xspager> is anyone working to fix this?
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[16:26:51] <leszek> hmm... xspager look at mailinglist or bug tracker if its listed there
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[16:31:42] <xspager> leszek: i search on the this room log and found something that can help me
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[16:56:36] <StreaK|ON> re
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[16:58:56] <michaelvo> hey
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[17:03:04] <The123king> afternoon :)
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[18:08:13] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33897 /haiku/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
[18:08:13] <CIA-46> * Moved everything into the SymbolPatcher namespace.
[18:08:13] <CIA-46> * Several fixes to get things building with gcc 4.
[18:08:13] <CIA-46> * Changed lookup of the _GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_ symbol. It is hidden and static
[18:08:13] <CIA-46> and get_image_symbol() doesn't find it.
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[18:10:07] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33898 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/kernel/util/AVLTreeMap.h:
[18:10:07] <CIA-46> * Added Iterator::NextValuePointer().
[18:10:07] <CIA-46> * Made reference returned by _GetKey() const. That's sufficient.
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[18:12:25] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33899 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/debuganalyzer/gui/table/ (TableColumns.cpp TableColumns.h): Fixed typo.
[18:14:06] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33900 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/debuganalyzer/gui/table/ (6 files): Added support for mouse down/up events in [Tree]TableListener.
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[18:16:51] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33901 /haiku/trunk/ (headers/private/shared/Variant.h src/kits/shared/Variant.cpp):
[18:16:51] <CIA-46> Added methods AddToMessage() and SetFromMessage() to add the value of the
[18:16:51] <CIA-46> variant as a field to a message, respectively initialize the variant from
[18:16:51] <CIA-46> one.
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[18:20:03] <bbjimmy> r33889 Backgrounds preferences app will crash the system. gdb ... no way to continue.
[18:21:27] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33902 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/View.cpp:
[18:21:27] <CIA-46> Ugh, forgot to check this in quite a while ago:
[18:21:27] <CIA-46> If the view doesn't have a tool tip, pass the B_MOUSE_IDLE to the next handler,
[18:21:27] <CIA-46> so the parent view can show a tool tip. This makes tool tips in a column list
[18:21:27] <CIA-46> view possible (or at least reasonably easy).
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[18:24:08] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33903 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/debugger/settings/generic/ (7 files): Classes to describe settings in a generic way.
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[18:27:00] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33904 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/debugger/user_interface/gui/util/ (SettingsMenu.cpp SettingsMenu.h): Interface and implementation for simplifying editing of Settings via a menu.
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[18:31:07] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33905 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/debugger/util/ (IntegerFormatter.cpp IntegerFormatter.h): Utility class to format integer values.
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[18:42:30] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33906 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/debugger/types/ArrayIndexPath.h: Added SetIndexAt(), replacing an existing index.
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[18:54:14] <Advant-> Whena TCp connection is closed, by tcp protocol isn't the otherside notified? Or does it only realize it when it fails to send/recieve?
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[19:01:22] <netstar> late with the nightlies?
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[19:07:08] <jmayfield> yep
[19:07:15] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33907 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/debugger/ (89 files in 10 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[19:07:15] <CIA-46> * EnumerationValue -> EnumeratorValue
[19:07:15] <CIA-46> * Since some types don't have names (e.g. pointer types or anonymous structs or
[19:07:15] <CIA-46> unions), each type does now also have a unique ID. The global type cache
[19:07:15] <CIA-46> registers types by ID and by name (if they have one). This fixes clashes of
[19:07:16] <CIA-46> types with empty names.
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[19:07:20] <CIA-46> * Completely refactored the code dealing with variable values. Formerly we had
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[20:21:17] <CIA-46> axeld * r33908 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/ipv4/ipv4.cpp:
[20:21:17] <CIA-46> * "next" & "previous" could be NULL, but were still referenced - based on
[20:21:17] <CIA-46> Oliver's patch for bug #4896 which this one fixes.
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[20:32:44] <CIA-46> axeld * r33909 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/ipv4/ipv4.cpp: * Cleanup, looks better this way.
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[20:42:59] <nutela1> anyone doing music related stuff here?
[20:44:04] <hoelzro> nutela1: I'm listening to some at the moment.
[20:44:06] <hoelzro> =)
[20:44:34] <nutela1> not what I was thinking :-) but thanks for the attention ;-)
[20:44:42] <hoelzro> no problem.
[20:44:56] <nutela1> Does haiku have a midi sequencer yet?
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[20:46:03] <nutela1> f focus shift
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[21:02:24] <mysoogal> hii where can i find screen dumps of this new OS
[21:03:23] <mysoogal> only 164 mb ?
[21:03:28] <amuck_> mysoogal: http://www.haiku-os.org/slideshows/haiku-tour
[21:03:45] <mysoogal> thanks, dude :D
[21:03:50] <nutela> midi sequencer for haiku?
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[21:04:16] <mysoogal> there are errors on website :O im using IE8
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[21:04:38] <mysoogal> invalid argument, jquery.galleria.js
[21:05:14] <MrSunshine__> well to start with stop using IE period!
[21:05:17] <OmniMancer> try not using internet exploder
[21:05:27] <MrSunshine__> its like a big fat black hole for viruses and malware of all kind
[21:05:34] <MrSunshine__> OmniMancer, imploder ...
[21:05:41] <mysoogal> already switch to ff3.5 even thu im not user of ff :D
[21:05:41] <MrSunshine__> as it sucks all malwares it can find with it in
[21:05:49] <mysoogal> IE is not bad just the developers :p
[21:06:02] <OmniMancer> and everytime they try to fix it they partch up the hole with holes :P
[21:06:08] <mysoogal> i have been using IE6/7/8 for long time i can tell you, its working good for me
[21:06:41] <mysoogal> nice installer window looks like KDE
[21:07:00] <mysoogal> ugly welcome window :P
[21:07:04] <MrSunshine__> mysoogal, IE is bad as MS thinks they can make up their own standards for stuff to the left and right
[21:07:32] <OmniMancer> indeed
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[21:07:35] <OmniMancer> see msvc :P
[21:07:45] <MrSunshine__> hell even using windows should be a grounds for punnishment :)
[21:07:49] <mysoogal> well everybody is happy now u got FF and other people got IE
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[21:08:01] * pulkomandy uses opera :o)
[21:08:01] <mysoogal> I am on windows xp for 3 years
[21:08:11] <MrSunshine__> not that linux is taht great .. but haiku will be the bomb :)
[21:08:28] <mysoogal> but i got a secret haha i also got ubuntu installed and running in seemless mode
[21:08:52] <MrSunshine__> as soon as i get my quadcorer online again its going to be dedicated to haiku =)
[21:08:53] <mysoogal> i can use ubuntu and windows together copy past etc works
[21:08:54] <nutela> haiku is very mac like, how do I know? First I was on BeOS for years, now on OS X
[21:09:01] <MrSunshine__> and maybe a small windows partition for games :P
[21:09:19] <mysoogal> installer looks like debian :O
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[21:10:00] <nutela> ..and I can say this; if you think mac os is advanced, haiku is even more in some aspects!
[21:10:39] <mysoogal> now i see screen dumps, i must say the window is very ugly take no offence :O
[21:10:50] <MrSunshine__> ehm ?
[21:10:51] <MrSunshine__> what window ?
[21:10:59] <mysoogal> the window boarders
[21:11:06] <MrSunshine__> no
[21:11:10] <MrSunshine__> not uggly
[21:11:12] <mmadia> functionally beautiful.
[21:11:23] <mysoogal> does it have themes ?
[21:11:43] <pulkomandy> it supports them
[21:11:44] <MrSunshine__> well changing colors sure .. not skinning stuff
[21:11:50] <MrSunshine__> that i know of
[21:11:54] <pulkomandy> actually there is decorator support
[21:11:55] <OmniMancer> you are ugly :P
[21:11:55] <mysoogal> weee no skins ? :O
[21:12:10] <MrSunshine__> pulkomandy, oh ..
[21:12:16] <pulkomandy> so you can change the window tab, but it is vector-drawn by the code
[21:12:20] <OmniMancer> why would you want skins when you have the beautiful windows
[21:12:29] <pulkomandy> so you'd have to code a new decorator if you want so
[21:12:36] <mysoogal> but its ugly look at boraders
[21:12:42] <pulkomandy> its not
[21:12:47] <pulkomandy> just get used to it
[21:12:53] <pulkomandy> its flat and efficient :)
[21:13:03] <mysoogal> flat like woman ? no fun ?
[21:13:08] <mysoogal> haha
[21:13:09] <MrSunshine__> mysoogal, you realize you are in a channel with die hard beos/haiku fans spewing horse dung right? :P
[21:13:19] <mysoogal> yes :D
[21:13:38] <mysoogal> im just saying im new user
[21:13:57] <pulkomandy> i don't want the UI to get in the way with buttons that look like shiny candy
[21:13:58] <MrSunshine__> yes, and its not uggly! :)
[21:14:00] <mysoogal> omg look at that finder window
[21:14:18] <mysoogal> reminds me of win95
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[21:14:34] <pulkomandy> text, slight shades of grey, and butttons not too small so I can reach them with the mouse and not too small so they don't take that much space
[21:14:47] <pulkomandy> well, ours can do a lot more
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[21:15:29] <pulkomandy> and don't say me you prefer xp one with that stupid dog asking you a lot of questions when you just want to look for a specifical file by its name
[21:15:45] <mysoogal> appearance window, Text are not put right they are right next to left boarder
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[21:16:18] <pulkomandy> mh
[21:16:43] <pulkomandy> this one can probably be improved, let me check
[21:17:07] <MrSunshine__> mysoogal, and you know, the OS isnt supposed to look like windows :P
[21:17:13] <mysoogal> if u look the text is very close to left boarder
[21:17:19] <MrSunshine__> so theres given to be some stuff that you are not used to seeing :P
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[21:18:43] <Kerwin> anyone knows why when debugging an app with GDB it automatically stops at some points (like constructors) even though I didn't setup any breakpoints ?
[21:19:13] <pulkomandy> forgotten breakpoints in libsdc++ ?
[21:19:17] <MrSunshine__> an error happends there? :)
[21:19:18] <pulkomandy> (or any other lib ?)
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[21:19:27] <mysoogal> ScreenSaver , look just below Haiku text overlaping ?
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[21:19:39] <pulkomandy> you can display the list of breakpoints in gdb
[21:20:05] <Kerwin> yes, but when I use info breakpoints there's not any
[21:20:06] <pulkomandy> mysoogal, btw are you using haiku in english and with the default font setting ?
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[21:20:28] <pulkomandy> Kerwin, may be watchpoints (on variables) or something else
[21:20:29] <mysoogal> im downloading it im lookin at the images right now
[21:20:33] <VinDuv> Kerwin: What does gdb says when it stops?
[21:20:40] <pulkomandy> ah, the screenshot tour ?
[21:20:49] <pulkomandy> I think most of it is a little outdated
[21:21:00] <mysoogal> haiku support guest install ? u know from virtualbox ? so i can run it seemless mode ?
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[21:21:10] <pulkomandy> no, not yet
[21:21:21] <pulkomandy> someone is writing a driver for that
[21:21:26] <Kerwin> VinDuv: 0xffff0114 in ?? ()
[21:21:37] <Kerwin> or 0x00000000 in ?? ()
[21:22:02] <pulkomandy> 0x0 sounds like something went wrong
[21:22:04] <mysoogal> pulkomandy when do you think it will be ready ? this driver
[21:22:09] <Kerwin> I was just debugging a vanilla People straight from trunk
[21:22:15] <pulkomandy> no idea, i'm not writting it :)
[21:22:36] <pulkomandy> Kerwin, maybe you shouldn't debug working apps then :D
[21:22:43] <Kerwin> lol
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[21:23:16] <Kerwin> I'm trying to setup a dev env :)
[21:23:28] <Kerwin> would like to tackle some easy task in trac
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[21:24:13] <Kerwin> It's not easy getting started programming for haiku
[21:25:27] <mysoogal> forgot where wget saved files goddamm
[21:26:26] <mysoogal> why haiku not follow mac theme framework ?
[21:27:45] <OmniMancer> because haiku is not mac?
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[21:28:27] <mysoogal> i know that but the theme style is really good :O
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[21:28:35] <mmadia> Kerwin : do you build your own Haiku images?
[21:29:40] <mysoogal> look at this pretty style http://jaj43123.deviantart.com/art/iTunes-9-UI-like-iTunes-8-Fix-136516069
[21:29:46] <Kerwin> mmadia: I installed in virtualbox from standard haiku iso, then I checked haiku trunk and type jam in src/apps/people/
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[21:30:06] <mysoogal> can haiku have tables like that ?
[21:30:16] <mysoogal> with navy blue and white
[21:30:16] <Kerwin> And I copied a UserBuildConfig to enable debug symbols
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[21:30:54] <mmadia> just curious, as rolling your own images is a good start.
[21:31:31] <pulkomandy> yes I guess that's a good start for a dev. environment
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[21:32:03] <Kerwin> ok
[21:32:15] <Kerwin> but I'm a little lost :)
[21:32:32] <pulkomandy> then next step is to ask questions around here :)
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[21:32:52] <MrSunshine__> seamless mode .. is the virtual machine running in the background and all the windows presented to the desktop insted?
[21:33:07] <Kerwin> I will :)
[21:34:12] <mysoogal> MrSunShine, the ubuntu Desktop, does not show cuz instead it shows XP desktop, but im able to use it both in same time
[21:35:00] <mysoogal> MrSunshine ill take screen dump for you hold on
[21:36:06] <mysoogal> taking some few second to load os
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[21:39:11] <Kerwin> Regarding my gdb question : it seems it is stopping because of system signals
[21:39:33] <mysoogal> here MrSunshine how it looks like http://tinypic.com/r/jb6wba/4
[21:39:37] <VinDuv> Kerwin: Like SIGCONT ?
[21:41:35] <Kerwin> SIGCONT in particular
[21:41:40] <Kerwin> yup
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[21:42:15] <VinDuv> That's the signal which is used to start a newly created thread
[21:43:45] <Kerwin> all right
[21:43:48] <VinDuv> try to enter "handle SIGCONT nostop" at the gdb prompt
[21:44:19] <Kerwin> it works
[21:44:21] <Kerwin> thx
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[21:58:27] <Dane_Scott> mmu_man!
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[21:58:59] <Kerwin> Still regarding gdb, it seems only the main.cpp of the app I debug is available when I use "list". Any ideas how to see other source files ?
[22:00:50] <mmu_man> plop
[22:01:09] <mmu_man> Dane_Scott no idea on this... tried to copy to another partition in case the index is bork ?
[22:01:52] <pulkomandy> Kerwin, do you have the sourcecode available inside the haik uimage ?
[22:02:01] <pulkomandy> (it's not embedded in the executable)
[22:02:28] <pulkomandy> and you need to tell gcc where it is, as at buildtime an absolute path on the host platform is stored
[22:02:56] <Kerwin> ok
[22:03:00] <adamk_> mmu_man, So do you have any ideas about this: http://adam.npark.com/haiku-sblive-oss-crash.txt That's with OSS built from mercurial yesterday (though none of your packages have worked, either).
[22:03:01] <Kerwin> i'm debuging a simple app
[22:03:46] <Kerwin> thanks
[22:04:10] <Kerwin> what do you mean by haiku image ? as in if I build the entire os in an image ?
[22:04:56] <pulkomandy> yes, or whatever you use anyway
[22:05:03] <pulkomandy> gdb needs to acces the sourcefiles
[22:05:12] <pulkomandy> so if they are not there it will not work :)
[22:05:19] <MrSunshine__> NVIDIA Gigabit MAC
[22:05:20] <MrSunshine__> Gigabit LAN controller featuring AI NET 2
[22:05:25] <MrSunshine__> is that something that is supported in haiku ? :)
[22:05:39] <pulkomandy> actually, are you compiling from inside haiku, or using linux and a virtual machine ?
[22:06:11] <Kerwin> I compile from within Haiku inside a vm (virtualbox)
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[22:06:41] <pulkomandy> ok, so if you compile inside this is not the problem
[22:06:48] <Kerwin> but then it seems to know about the source since I can use "breakpoint Somefile.cpp:112"
[22:06:58] <pulkomandy> i'm used to building from linux and running in vbox
[22:07:05] <Kerwin> oh ok
[22:07:28] <Kerwin> I thought it was simpler to start without cross-compilation
[22:08:24] <pulkomandy> yes it is for simple apps actually
[22:08:50] <pulkomandy> if you are hacking the kernel or some other system wide thing it is more safe to do it from the outside
[22:09:37] <Kerwin> but then you have to rebuild an image and boot it each time you want to test anything ?
[22:09:47] <pulkomandy> yes
[22:09:52] <Kerwin> painful :)
[22:09:53] <pulkomandy> it makes sense if you change the kernel
[22:09:56] <pulkomandy> not for apps
[22:10:00] <Kerwin> yes
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[22:11:09] <Kerwin> so you're working on the kernel ?
[22:11:32] <pulkomandy> no actually I'm doing localisation stuff
[22:11:42] <pulkomandy> translating apps and tweaking libs and all that
[22:11:48] <Kerwin> all right
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[22:12:22] <mmu_man> adamk_ no, maybe the driver installs the handler too early
[22:12:49] <MrSunshine__> Realtek RTL8111B any drivers for that in haiku ? :)
[22:13:00] <Kerwin> well, thanks for your help. see you
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[22:13:25] <pulkomandy> MrSunshine__, freebsd compat layer should work if there is no native driver ?
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[22:16:42] <MrSunshine__> nah that mobo cant take my cpu anyways...
[22:16:43] <MrSunshine__> sigh
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[22:34:02] <fyysik> evening ppl!
[22:34:44] <mmadia> hi fyysik :)
[22:34:44] <kirilla> hi fyysik
[22:35:48] * kirilla <3 trac's diff
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