November 4, 2009 
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November 4, 2009 [00:00:08] *** korli has quit IRC[00:01:54] *** ari2-free has quit IRC[00:03:12] <stpere> who is Ferdinand Lautenschlager?<[00:04:47] *** prOSy has quit IRC[00:09:35] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:10:03] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[00:13:57] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[00:13:58] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[00:15:09] *** zevs has joined #haiku[00:18:15] <CIA-46> michaelvoliveira * r461 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/openjpeg: OpenJPEG library is an open-source JPEG 2000 codec written in C language[00:18:18] *** hoelzro has quit IRC[00:19:28] <CIA-46> michaelvoliveira * r462 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/openjpeg/patches: famous patch folder[00:19:50] *** zevs has left #haiku[00:22:22] <JJack> JPEG2000? Wow. I haven't heard about that in a while[00:22:32] <CIA-46> michaelvoliveira * r463 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/openjpeg/openjpeg-1.3.bep: honorable bep file[00:23:26] *** notsmoothop has quit IRC[00:23:39] <CIA-46> michaelvoliveira * r464 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/openjpeg/patches/openjpeg-1.3.patch: 'the' patch file[00:25:07] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[00:25:19] *** andreas_dr4006 has quit IRC[00:25:54] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[00:25:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[00:26:11] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[00:28:17] *** Andrius has quit IRC[00:41:50] *** echelog has joined #haiku[00:43:50] *** xvedejas has joined #haiku[00:48:13] *** bebarker has quit IRC[00:51:23] *** amuck_ has quit IRC[00:52:04] <michaelvo> JPG2000 it's widely used still[00:53:37] *** Geoz is now known as Geoz100[00:55:57] *** crash_ has quit IRC[00:58:09] *** fcr has joined #haiku[00:59:09] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[00:59:45] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[01:00:04] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:04:52] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[01:05:50] *** scanty has joined #haiku[01:06:12] *** miqlas has quit IRC[01:14:17] *** CBke has joined #haiku[01:14:49] <CBke> with what app can i open my old .proj file?[01:16:13] *** mortuosplango has quit IRC[01:16:41] <JJack> I believe JPEG2000 is used in some niche applications, but it's nowhere near as popular as the mainstream web image formats. Besides, disk space and bandwidth availability is vastly outpacing adoption which is why I doubt it'll ever hit the mainstream...[01:18:17] <JJack> Much like MP3, we're gonna be stuck with JPEG whether we like it or not ;)[01:19:23] *** polandchris has joined #haiku[01:19:32] <polandchris> Hello guys![01:20:46] <CBke> i used to open it with some IDE but that was in BeOS, the binary still runs noothly[01:20:51] <michaelvo> ;)[01:24:18] <OmniMancer> the BeIDE?[01:24:28] <CBke> it starts with MIDE[01:24:44] *** GerbilSoft has joined #haiku[01:25:38] <CBke> OmniMancer, sounds plausable, can i still use it? could find addons etc but not the real thing[01:25:53] <OmniMancer> don't think so[01:26:29] <CBke> the cont file of the .proj file starts with MIDE that is[01:26:39] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[01:26:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[01:27:01] <CBke> OmniMancer, so i should forget BeIDE? any alternatives?[01:27:21] <OmniMancer> there is paladin[01:27:37] <CBke> ill check it out[01:27:40] <OmniMancer> I do not know if the BeIDE works...[01:33:49] *** kwag has joined #haiku[01:34:06] <CBke> "If you like BeIDE, you'll like Paladin even better" so it will help me fill the same holes in wy knowledge ;-)[01:41:03] *** cpr420 has joined #haiku[01:42:18] <CBke> OmniMancer, worked like a charm, only got some stdin stderr reference problems[01:43:02] <OmniMancer> ??[01:46:15] <CBke> OmniMancer, while compiling my old code with Paladin[01:46:42] <OmniMancer> what kind of problems?[01:49:30] <CBke> linking no reference to cout[01:50:56] <OmniMancer> that doesn't sound right[01:59:37] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[02:00:13] <Al2O3> where would one find the haiku art used for the mugs/posters for sale. I would like to have the large images on my 2nd monitor when I'm doing single monitor work.[02:00:17] <Al2O3> keep me focused :)[02:01:29] <mmadia> if anything, <source>/haiku/data/artwork , Al2O3[02:02:44] *** skarmiglione has joined #haiku[02:02:53] <CBke> OmniMancer, had o link libscreenvaver and c++ got only _start/main issue left[02:03:10] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[02:05:35] *** redblue has joined #haiku[02:06:14] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[02:16:51] *** JJack has quit IRC[02:18:35] *** Skarmiglione1 has joined #haiku[02:23:37] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[02:24:36] *** nighty_ has quit IRC[02:28:26] *** kwag has quit IRC[02:29:02] <CBke> http://haiku.pastebin.com/m16f0f940 is the error[02:31:13] <OmniMancer> it wants a main but you don't have one?[02:31:17] <OmniMancer> ah[02:31:26] <OmniMancer> I think that is resolved by adding a dummy main[02:31:57] <CBke> also for a screensaver?[02:32:16] <OmniMancer> I think so, someone had that problem with a tracker addon I think[02:38:01] <CBke> thx[02:42:00] <CBke> its great to see 10yearold code come alive again ;-)[02:42:19] <OmniMancer> does it work?[02:42:44] <CBke> yes[02:43:48] <OmniMancer> what screensaver is it?[02:44:28] *** oco has quit IRC[02:44:31] *** baizas has joined #haiku[02:45:31] <CBke> http://www.bebits.com/app/1511[02:47:36] <CBke> ony Paladin hangs from time to time with examining source files[02:47:43] <OmniMancer> :([02:47:51] *** nighty_ has joined #haiku[02:51:27] <CBke> clearing the .o files seems to prevent this from happening[02:58:15] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[02:58:54] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[02:59:21] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[02:59:40] *** triplez has quit IRC[03:03:49] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[03:09:23] *** michaelvo has quit IRC[03:09:59] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[03:13:25] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[03:14:34] *** kwag has joined #haiku[03:14:57] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[03:15:21] <Kokito> hello folks[03:16:51] <kwag> Hey Kokito![03:17:41] <Kokito> howdy kwag[03:20:43] *** triplez has joined #haiku[03:20:56] <Kokito> any op in the mood of changing the topic? /topic #haiku Website: http://haiku-os.org | Haiku Commemorative CD:http://www.cafepress.com/haiku_os.408438071 | Tech Talk: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=236331448076587879 | IRC logs: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?haiku | Commits: http://cia.vc/stats/project/OpenBeOS | Source search: http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/ | http://haiku.pastebin.com/ | http://www.haiku-os.org/guides[03:21:24] <Kokito> it's to add a link to the Haiku CD on the haiku store[03:21:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmadia[03:21:35] *** mmadia changes topic to "Website: http://haiku-os.org | Haiku Commemorative CD:http://www.cafepress.com/haiku_os.408438071 | Tech Talk: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=236331448076587879 | IRC logs: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?haiku | Commits: http://cia.vc/stats/project/OpenBeOS | Source search: http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/ | http://haiku.pastebin.com/ | http://www.haiku-os.org/guides"[03:21:40] *** mmadia sets mode: -o mmadia[03:21:45] <mmadia> ;)[03:21:54] <stpere> thanks mm :P[03:22:53] <mmadia> Kokito : i emailed ingo, asking for his thoughts on how to modify the buildsystem for enabling the Japanese Edition.[03:24:14] <Kokito> cool mmadia. thanks.[03:25:18] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[03:27:31] *** Geoz100 is now known as Geoz[03:28:52] *** Sryche has joined #haiku[03:29:41] *** kitallis has quit IRC[03:29:42] *** joeyadams has quit IRC[03:36:46] *** jmelesky has quit IRC[03:38:08] *** kwag has quit IRC[03:43:25] *** bverre has joined #haiku[03:44:00] <bverre> sooo... alpha 2 soon. ;-)[03:45:40] *** paul0 has quit IRC[03:45:52] *** GerbilSoft has quit IRC[03:47:22] *** jmayfield has joined #haiku[03:47:38] <jmayfield> yay[03:47:58] <jmayfield> so, our film had its world premiere today in London[03:48:10] <jmayfield> ..how dickensy[03:48:14] *** crink has joined #haiku[03:48:23] <jmayfield> tale of a city[03:48:23] <adb> film ? url ?[03:49:05] <adb> how many alpha's make a beta ?[03:49:20] <gtaw> Omega?[03:49:23] * gtaw shrugs[03:50:08] <jmayfield> http://www.examiner.com/x-1486-LA-Personalities-Examiner~y2009m11d3-Disney-premieres-its-new-Christmas-Carol-in-London[03:50:39] <adb> tks[03:51:17] *** GerbilSoft has joined #haiku[03:51:20] *** gtaw is now known as Tiggy[03:51:25] *** Tiggy is now known as gtaw[04:05:17] *** joeyadams has joined #haiku[04:11:19] *** Barrett has quit IRC[04:12:43] *** thotypous has quit IRC[04:12:58] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[04:13:24] *** thotypous has quit IRC[04:23:23] *** DraX has joined #haiku[04:23:31] *** crink has left #haiku[04:29:19] *** joeyadams has quit IRC[04:29:34] <DraX> OmniMancer: shiny?[04:43:08] <OmniMancer> shiny?[04:43:31] <OmniMancer> DraX:????[04:43:58] <DraX> OmniMancer: llvm[04:44:20] <OmniMancer> I think it still goes, haven't tested it in a while[04:49:08] <OmniMancer> and I can't run the testsuite due to no bash3+[04:56:35] *** Kokito has quit IRC[05:06:02] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[05:06:46] <DraX> OmniMancer: but i want shiny things to stare at damnit![05:08:10] <OmniMancer> what kind of shiny things?[05:08:18] <DraX> shiny shiny ones?[05:08:25] <gtaw> Ones that shine?[05:08:33] <DraX> yes![05:08:39] <DraX> gtaw understands[05:08:49] *** khindenburg has quit IRC[05:09:11] * OmniMancer is confused.[05:09:42] <mmadia> shiny: http://www.haiku-os.it/immagini/news/arora.png[05:10:07] <umccullough> yeah, may be time for me to try out this Qt port[05:10:48] <DraX> meh, old shiny[05:10:55] <mmadia> the qt demo browser was quick, but buggy.[05:10:58] <DraX> i use arora already anyway[05:13:47] <OmniMancer> if we could poke adobe enough we might get some stuff for flash out of them :P[05:14:15] * mmadia hands OmniMancer a stick[05:14:37] <mmadia> poke away :)[05:14:40] <DraX> few have had luck with that stick[05:18:03] <DraX> i'd like some java :([05:18:12] <OmniMancer> I guess they frown on reverse engineering?[05:18:37] <DraX> it turns out implementing flash is crazy hard[05:18:42] <DraX> see swfdec and gnash[05:18:54] <DraX> who have put a _ton_ of work into it, and can basically run youtube and some 90s games[05:19:58] *** {V} is now known as {V}afk[05:28:11] <OmniMancer> what is the problem?[05:28:16] <OmniMancer> the vector rendering?[05:28:55] <DraX> AS3[05:29:01] <DraX> is i believe the big problem[05:29:09] <DraX> getting the VM to work just right and to deal with all the bugs[05:29:19] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[05:29:22] <DraX> the basic drawing stuff is easy i believe, that's mostly pre swf7[05:34:10] <OmniMancer> so the actual rendering is fine we just need to poke them to give out their AS VM?[05:34:20] <DraX> they _did_ give out their as vm[05:34:27] <DraX> see Tamarin[05:34:30] <OmniMancer> no[05:34:38] <OmniMancer> they gave out their low level JIT[05:34:46] <OmniMancer> not the as VM[05:35:28] <OmniMancer> how close is AS3 to javascript?[05:35:50] <DraX> no tamarin is the vm[05:35:59] <DraX> it's js + a lot of ugly un-js-like crap[05:36:56] <DraX> i believe it's the class library and the nuances of AVM2[05:36:56] <OmniMancer> I am pretty sure tamarin is only the JIT[05:37:09] <OmniMancer> AVM2?[05:37:20] <DraX> AVM2 is the actionscript 3 bytecode crap[05:37:23] <OmniMancer> so basing it on say v8 would be a good/bad idea?[05:37:34] <OmniMancer> oh wait[05:37:40] <OmniMancer> that would not be useful...[05:37:43] <DraX> basing it on tamarin is a much better idea[05:37:47] <OmniMancer> it would require recomiling[05:38:00] <DraX> which is i believe what swfdec did[05:38:37] <OmniMancer> ah I see where I was confused[05:38:42] <OmniMancer> mozilla only uses the JIT[05:39:54] <OmniMancer> so they gave out the vm but you still have to write the whole standard library?[05:40:18] <DraX> yes[05:40:42] <OmniMancer> evil evil people[05:40:49] <DraX> the hard part[05:42:49] <OmniMancer> and if we wrote a javascript decompiler to decompile the bytecode to javascript then compile that using v8 we could go to a lot of extra trouble :P[05:43:28] <DraX> porting v8 is somewhere on my list of fun things to do[05:46:12] <OmniMancer> while you are about it please kill their devs for commiting the sin of using scons?[05:46:21] *** gtaww has joined #haiku[05:46:30] <DraX> meh[05:46:34] <DraX> i actually did the freebsd port of it[05:47:00] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[05:47:26] <DraX> opensource skype?[05:48:26] *** bebarker has joined #haiku[05:48:43] <OmniMancer> scons is the most evil build system in existence[05:48:46] <DraX> oh, the protcol will remain in a binary library[05:48:50] <DraX> no, that's waf[05:49:32] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[05:49:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[05:49:34] <OmniMancer> scons seems to have been designed in such a way that it detects the use you want to put it to and then does everything possible to prevent it from doing that[05:51:00] <OmniMancer> what is the un-js stuff in action script?[05:51:16] <DraX> classes, type annotations[05:51:21] <OmniMancer> ah[05:51:28] <OmniMancer> the many evils[05:51:39] <DraX> yes[05:51:48] <OmniMancer> they were too lazy to do type inference?[05:52:04] <DraX> until v8, everyone was too lazy to do type inference[05:52:16] <DraX> until v8 every dynamic language was too lazy to do type inference[05:52:21] <OmniMancer> well v8 does the internal class optimisation don't they?[05:52:25] <OmniMancer> not really[05:52:30] <DraX> even though the self papers clearly defined how to do it[05:52:31] <OmniMancer> sbcl does type inference :D[05:52:45] <DraX> v8 does class optimization and cartesian product analysis i believe[05:53:04] <OmniMancer> sbcl does type inference to speed up maths :D[05:53:31] *** kallisti6 has quit IRC[05:54:44] <OmniMancer> the problem with self is that the current implementation is mac OSX and sparc solaris only :([05:55:37] <DraX> i don't really like self as a language[05:55:43] <DraX> but the optimizations are beautiful[05:55:45] <OmniMancer> there is an old binary for windows but it uses cywin :([05:55:45] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[05:55:51] <OmniMancer> I want to try self[05:55:52] <DraX> that being said, v8 is a continuation of that[05:55:55] <OmniMancer> I sorta like Io[05:56:07] <OmniMancer> continuation of what?[05:56:18] <OmniMancer> the it only works in some places?[05:56:41] <DraX> of the self VM optimizations[05:56:53] <DraX> the lead on v8 worked on self[05:57:27] <DraX> he went from working on self -> hotspot -> v8[05:57:29] *** brandon__ has joined #haiku[06:00:21] *** gtaw has quit IRC[06:00:28] *** gtaww is now known as gtaw[06:02:24] <OmniMancer> ah[06:02:32] <OmniMancer> I dislike v8 due to the scons[06:02:59] *** jmayfield has quit IRC[06:03:02] <DraX> i can't think of a build system i like[06:03:14] <OmniMancer> well if there is one I can't stand its scons[06:03:34] <OmniMancer> the only thing I ever built with it that worked was blender[06:03:34] *** redblue has quit IRC[06:04:14] <DraX> xmms2 used to use scons, we switched to waf[06:04:18] <DraX> which is pretty horrible too[06:04:30] <DraX> but did a lot of things out of box that we'd build a library for doing with scons[06:05:47] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[06:05:58] *** bebarker has quit IRC[06:06:22] *** jmayfield has joined #haiku[06:15:03] *** GerbilSoft has quit IRC[06:17:05] *** baia_ has quit IRC[06:23:13] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[06:29:16] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[06:30:26] *** Ober2 has joined #haiku[06:32:11] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[06:36:30] *** js has quit IRC[06:36:30] *** stpere has quit IRC[06:36:51] *** js has joined #haiku[06:36:51] *** stpere has joined #haiku[06:46:18] *** joeyadams has joined #haiku[06:47:53] *** gtaw has quit IRC[06:53:06] *** ari2-free has joined #haiku[07:05:02] *** nighty_ has quit IRC[07:05:06] *** nighty_ has joined #haiku[07:09:40] *** Al2O3_ has joined #haiku[07:12:57] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[07:12:57] *** Al2O3_ is now known as Al2O3[07:15:13] *** xvedejas has quit 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Thanks. 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This might bring some regressions, although I[14:20:37] <CIA-46> couldn't spot anything wrong yet.[14:21:42] *** HaikuBot3 has quit IRC[14:21:48] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[14:23:54] *** jan__64 has joined #haiku[14:25:41] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[14:27:10] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[14:29:02] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[14:29:27] *** HaikuBot1 has quit IRC[14:31:48] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[14:33:13] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[14:42:15] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[14:43:43] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[14:45:58] *** Geoz has quit IRC[14:47:11] <CIA-46> zooey * r33877 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/TextView.cpp:[14:47:11] <CIA-46> * the textrect.right should always be rounded up to the next integer -[14:47:11] <CIA-46> fixes #4894[14:47:11] <CIA-46> * PointAt() now rounds x- and y-positions to the next integer instead of always[14:47:11] <CIA-46> rounding them up - this yields improved caret-positions (e.g. before an 'f'[14:47:11] <CIA-46> character)[14:50:26] *** nighty___ has joined #haiku[14:57:47] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[14:59:18] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[14:59:22] *** HaikuBot has joined #haiku[15:00:07] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[15:00:14] <CIA-46> axeld * r33878 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (13 files in 2 dirs):[15:00:14] <CIA-46> * Refactored ServerBitmap a bit: it now inherits from Referenceable instead of[15:00:14] <CIA-46> roling its own solution.[15:00:14] <CIA-46> * Also removed BitmapManager::DeleteBitmap() - you only call[15:00:14] <CIA-46> ServerBitmap::RemoveReference(), and that one will notify the manager if[15:00:14] <CIA-46> needed.[15:00:16] <CIA-46> * Some more cleanup.[15:01:53] *** HaikuBot2 has quit IRC[15:03:02] *** impulse- has quit IRC[15:03:30] *** Sryche has joined #haiku[15:10:01] *** adb has joined #haiku[15:10:10] *** zizban has joined #haiku[15:10:39] <zizban> Yeah! my wireless mini pci card works![15:13:36] *** Hugen_ is now known as Henderson[15:13:50] *** raichoo has quit IRC[15:14:53] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[15:14:54] *** nighty_ has quit IRC[15:15:46] *** jan__64 has quit IRC[15:16:19] <Begasus> plop[15:16:36] *** impy has joined #haiku[15:19:48] *** thotypous has quit IRC[15:20:01] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[15:38:10] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[15:41:01] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[15:46:32] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[15:47:52] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[15:49:39] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[15:50:20] *** PacoLinux has joined #haiku[15:53:32] *** mr_mg has quit IRC[15:55:06] *** Sryche has quit IRC[15:59:53] *** DDevine has quit IRC[16:00:49] <CIA-46> bonefish * r33879 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):[16:00:49] <CIA-46> * Made BReferenceable the class implementation and BPrivate::Referenceable the[16:00:49] <CIA-46> typedef, so it's clearer which one is the preferred one.[16:00:49] <CIA-46> * Added BReference, a clone of BPrivate::Reference.[16:00:49] <CIA-46> BPrivate::{Referenceable,Reference} are being phased out. Only the B* versions[16:00:51] <CIA-46> should be used.[16:04:44] *** Henderson is now known as HubertB[16:05:12] *** MadEchidna has joined #haiku[16:09:01] <CIA-46> axeld * r33880 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (4 files):[16:09:01] <CIA-46> * Use BReferenceable instead of Referenceable. Didn't notice there was a[16:09:01] <CIA-46> BReferenceable in the first place, thanks Ingo![16:15:25] *** triplez has joined #haiku[16:16:09] *** glootech_ has joined #haiku[16:17:22] *** HubertB has quit IRC[16:18:01] *** binaryimpulse has joined #haiku[16:18:52] *** MadEchidna has quit IRC[16:21:49] *** glootech has quit IRC[16:22:58] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[16:24:38] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[16:26:43] *** slaine_ has quit IRC[16:28:46] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[16:31:12] *** Ober2 has quit IRC[16:33:47] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[16:44:30] *** dflemstr has joined #haiku[16:44:58] *** slaine_ has joined #haiku[16:47:07] <CIA-46> axeld * r33881 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/bfs/Inode.cpp:[16:47:07] <CIA-46> * Since we know the address of the lock in question, there is no need to waste[16:47:07] <CIA-46> memory by naming it individually.[16:47:13] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[16:47:57] *** Hugen is now known as HubertB[16:48:40] *** DaneScott has joined #haiku[16:48:55] *** blaze has joined #haiku[16:49:27] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[16:49:36] <HubertB> hi DaneScott[16:49:56] <HubertB> hi miglas[16:50:23] <Begasus> DaneScott, !!!![16:50:41] *** hisoka999 has joined #haiku[16:53:32] *** brandon__ has quit IRC[16:59:20] <HubertB> DaneScott: when will be new release SoundPlay for Haiku?[17:01:34] *** The123king has joined #haiku[17:02:25] *** hoelzro has joined #haiku[17:02:27] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[17:03:14] <Al2O3> SoundPlay is now owned by Dane Scott?[17:04:14] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[17:04:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aldeck[17:06:52] *** DaneScott has quit IRC[17:07:32] <Begasus> nope Al2O3[17:07:36] <mmadia> Al2O3 no. in the ICO article, http://joomla.iscomputeron.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1135&Itemid=1 ,[17:08:11] <mmadia> dane mentioned that "when the newest version of SoundPlay is made compatible with Haiku, Command Center will be able to run 100% on the Haiku platform."[17:08:18] *** blaze has quit IRC[17:08:37] <Al2O3> nice[17:08:43] <Al2O3> tx for the article link.[17:08:49] <Begasus> that would mean an update on SoundPlay ... has been a while mmadia ;)[17:08:55] <mmadia> like, i'll be happy when Haiku has a better alternative to bezilla.[17:09:04] <Al2O3> Dane's a good guy, and hard worker. Deserves success[17:09:16] <Al2O3> I'll be much happier as well mmadia[17:09:29] <Al2O3> even if it is in Qt[17:09:38] <mmadia> not really, Begasus. it just mentions at what point in time command center will be 100% functional.[17:09:41] <Begasus> a native browser is better than a ported one ;)[17:10:14] <Begasus> I meant an update to SoundPlay has been way overtime .. ;)[17:10:15] <Al2O3> Could be true.[17:10:23] <Al2O3> now in the meantime, read about this http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/04/144240/Secret-Copyright-Treaty-Leaks-Its-Bad-Very-Bad[17:10:31] <Al2O3> Bad news is maybe good news.[17:14:15] *** brandon__ has joined #haiku[17:14:50] *** zaunpfahl1 has joined #haiku[17:15:05] *** amuck_ has joined #haiku[17:20:23] *** emitrax has quit IRC[17:20:44] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[17:22:08] <The123king> Right, i know Stack and Tile has been merged, unmerged and given its own branch. Just wondering, does it actually work yet?[17:23:44] *** glootech_ has quit IRC[17:24:39] *** phalax_ has quit IRC[17:26:25] *** HubertB has quit IRC[17:30:31] <CIA-46> zooey * r33882 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/TextView.cpp: (log message trimmed)[17:30:31] <CIA-46> Reworked character class handling in BTextView:[17:30:31] <CIA-46> * Word selection via double-click now works like in R5, except that '_' is now[17:30:31] <CIA-46> being considered part of a textual word, too. This fixes #4754.[17:30:31] <CIA-46> * Adjusted CanEndLine() to make much more sense (at least for western[17:30:34] <CIA-46> languages).[17:30:36] <CIA-46> While I have tested the wrapping quite a bit, it is not unlikely that these[17:32:06] *** raichoo has quit IRC[17:33:09] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[17:34:45] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[17:36:02] *** glootech has joined #haiku[17:36:05] <CIA-46> axeld * r33883 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/bfs/ (Journal.cpp Journal.h):[17:36:05] <CIA-46> * Nested transactions didn't really work in combination with the separate[17:36:05] <CIA-46> transaction mechanism. Now we keep track of the parent transactions, and[17:36:05] <CIA-46> restore fOwner on Journal::Unlock().[17:36:05] <CIA-46> * This closes bug #4155 again.[17:36:38] *** miqlas has quit IRC[17:38:10] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[17:40:15] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[17:40:32] <StreaK|ON> Easy File Uploader -> http://omploader.org/vMnAybQ[17:40:34] <StreaK|ON> for haiku[17:41:57] <CIA-46> aldeck * r33884 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/haiku3d/ (Mesh.h MeshInstance.h Texture.h): * Use BReferenceable instead of Referenceable.[17:42:02] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[17:42:05] <The123king> is it configueable and can it upload to imageshack?[17:42:17] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[17:42:51] <StreaK|ON> not yet.. but will support imageshack[17:43:11] <Begasus> why not just use BeZilla?[17:43:26] <StreaK|ON> omploader curently supports all files so you can upload there images aswell[17:43:56] <StreaK|ON> bezilla?[17:44:08] <The123king> firefox ;)[17:44:17] <StreaK|ON> easy file uploader is quicker..[17:44:27] <StreaK|ON> thats why i created it :)[17:44:39] * Begasus doesn't like imageshadk ....[17:44:46] * zizban doesn't either[17:45:05] <StreaK|ON> just drag and drop file and click "upload" -> easier than in bezilla[17:45:18] <Begasus> flickr is easier ... and I also use webshots[17:45:36] <zizban> is there a way to force kill an app? MediaPlayer says it's open but it wont quit[17:46:03] <Begasus> err ... there was a Tracker plugin for flickr earlier ... don't know how it works on Haiku[17:47:20] <StreaK|ON> is there an option to upload a files to flickr as anonymous? [ im not using flicker ][17:47:25] <StreaK|ON> so dunno[17:47:44] <Begasus> don't think so[17:47:51] <Begasus> you need to have an accoun[17:47:53] <Begasus> +t[17:47:59] *** zizban has quit IRC[17:50:05] *** GonoszTopi has joined #haiku[17:52:27] <StreaK|ON> argh.. this is proper screen for Easy File Uploader -> http://omploader.org/vMnAydQ[17:52:28] <StreaK|ON> :)[17:53:03] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[17:54:06] <Lelldorin1> hello all[17:54:15] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[17:54:16] <StreaK|ON> hiyah Lelldorin1[17:54:31] *** zizban has joined #haiku[17:55:00] *** Begasus has quit IRC[17:55:52] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:56:43] *** gtaw has joined #haiku[18:02:52] * StreaK|ON uploading Easy File Uploader to haikuWare..[18:02:56] <Lelldorin1> StreaK|ON: the greentube is from oyu right?[18:03:40] <StreaK|ON> yes[18:04:22] <Lelldorin1> how can i get a videos adress of youtube todownload it?[18:05:10] <StreaK|ON> just put the link from browser...[18:05:46] *** DaneScott has joined #haiku[18:05:56] <Lelldorin1> ???[18:06:06] <StreaK|ON> example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ0rIr_405c[18:06:25] * zizban waits for what do next[18:06:35] <StreaK|ON> or i missunderstood your question[18:06:54] <Lelldorin1> i will check[18:07:05] *** zaunpfahl1 has left #haiku[18:07:27] <zizban> okay what do you do after putting a link in the browser?[18:08:12] <Lelldorin1> StreaK|ON: hmm can you add a information, that the downloading ist running? there is no information for the user, i see that he download because i look into my home folder, but this is not the best way :-)[18:08:13] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has joined #haiku[18:08:54] <zizban> what do you use to download youtube videos on Haiku[18:09:21] <StreaK|ON> if file is downloading theres an info on ther right side of the added link [ >> running ][18:09:40] <StreaK|ON> zizban: GreenTube[18:09:49] <Lelldorin1> look at haikuware.com[18:09:53] <zizban> OH[18:10:03] * zizban is slow on the uptalke sometimes.[18:10:07] <StreaK|ON> :)[18:10:21] * JonathanThompson talks up zizban[18:10:28] <JonathanThompson> He's a really great guy, really![18:11:18] <Lelldorin1> StreaK|ON: nice app[18:11:53] <Lelldorin1> StreaK|ON: you can add a url link into your about window[18:11:56] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:12:09] *** thowe has joined #Haiku[18:13:10] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:13:13] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[18:13:17] <StreaK|ON> Lelldorin1 , is greentube working for U?[18:13:21] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:13:31] <StreaK|ON> that [ >> running ] indicator[18:13:36] <StreaK|ON> in greentube[18:13:44] <StreaK|ON> while downloading a file?[18:14:11] *** jan__64 has joined #haiku[18:14:40] <Lelldorin1> hi jan__64[18:15:39] <StreaK|ON> btw.. file on server -> http://www.haikuware.com/directory/view-details/internet-network/ftp/easy-file-uploader[18:15:42] *** gtaw has quit IRC[18:16:07] *** Hugen has quit IRC[18:16:26] <zizban> How do you add videos to greentube?[18:21:31] *** slaine_ has quit IRC[18:22:42][18:23:30] <zizban> got it[18:23:36] *** sprma has quit IRC[18:24:28] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[18:25:44] <zizban> No progress bar so I know what's doing...or not doing?[18:25:54] *** DaneScott has quit IRC[18:26:00] <StreaK|ON> zizban is it working for you?[18:26:08] <Lelldorin1> you can see the >> signs[18:26:29] <zizban> Gotcha. It appears to be working.[18:27:41] *** slaine_ has joined #haiku[18:27:57] <zizban> all done. Let's try it.[18:28:31] <zizban> worked great![18:29:49] <Lelldorin1> StreaK|ON: can you make some not visible graphic buttons for you app, because then i download a file, i dont can add a other one[18:30:08] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[18:31:00] <StreaK|ON> http://omploader.org/vMnAzYQ -> [ >> running ] indicator on right is present and informs you that file is downloading[18:31:04] <Lelldorin1> StreaK|ON: bug, then i have added a link into greentube, i try to add a second one, the first one will be removed[18:31:28] <StreaK|ON> ugh.. i'll try to solve it..[18:32:55] <StreaK|ON> Lelldorin1 i'll try to solve it in next ver[18:33:24] *** hisoka999 has quit IRC[18:33:34] <Lelldorin1> StreaK|ON; no problem[18:33:50] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[18:33:50] <StreaK|ON> it occurs only when ONE file is present in queue[18:34:35] *** iMax_pp has joined #haiku[18:38:45] *** ricardojose has joined #haiku[18:38:52] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[18:41:21] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[18:43:14] *** DaneScott has joined #haiku[18:43:29] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[18:43:41] *** pyCube has quit IRC[18:44:32] *** DaneScott has quit IRC[18:46:16] *** jmayfield has joined #haiku[18:47:51] *** {V}afk has quit IRC[18:50:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o umccullough[18:50:38] *** fhein has joined #haiku[18:52:16] *** mmadia has quit IRC[18:53:17] *** umccullough changes topic to "Website: http://haiku-os.org | Commemorative CD: http://cafepress.com/haiku_os.408438071 | Videos: http://haiku-os.org/about/movies | Dev: http://dev.haiku-os.org | IRC logs: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?haiku | Commits: http://cia.vc/stats/project/OpenBeOS | Grok: http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/ | http://haiku-os.org/guides | http://haiku.pastebin.com"[18:53:50] *** umccullough changes topic to "Website: http://haiku-os.org | R1/Alpha1 Commemorative CD: http://cafepress.com/haiku_os.408438071 | Videos: http://haiku-os.org/about/movies | Dev: http://dev.haiku-os.org | IRC logs: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?haiku | Commits: http://cia.vc/stats/project/OpenBeOS | Grok: http://haiku.it.su.se:8180/source/ | http://haiku-os.org/guides | http://haiku.pastebin.com"[18:53:55] <umccullough> sorry for the noise :)[18:54:01] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[18:54:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o umccullough[18:54:10] <umccullough> mmadia, i changed the topic a bit[18:58:13] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[18:59:43] <The123king> IO've already bought myself a CD ;)[19:03:05] *** nutela has joined #haiku[19:03:07] *** ricardojose has quit IRC[19:05:16] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:08:39] *** nutela has quit IRC[19:10:06] *** nutela has joined #haiku[19:11:24] *** polandchris has left #haiku[19:11:39] *** Kerwin has joined #haiku[19:11:54] <Kerwin> Hello[19:13:17] *** michaelvo has joined #haiku[19:13:50] <Kerwin> I need some pointers getting started programming in Haiku... anyone ?[19:14:44] <iMax_pp> Kerwin: http://www.haiku-os.org/documents/dev/haiku_development_getting_started[19:14:53] *** dru_ has quit IRC[19:15:13] <iMax_pp> And more generally: http://www.haiku-os.org/development[19:15:38] <Kerwin> Thanks iMax_pp[19:15:50] <Kerwin> I already had those however[19:16:33] <iMax_pp> Then, a great start is to fix some of the "easy" bugs.[19:16:33] <Kerwin> I would be really interested in the typical programmer setup: editor, IDE etc ?[19:16:48] <pulkomandy> editor/ide : Pe[19:17:00] <Kerwin> sorry afk[19:17:01] <pulkomandy> (or vim if you come from linux world and already know it)[19:17:18] <pulkomandy> and jamfile engine[19:18:36] <Kerwin> ok i'll have a look. thanks[19:18:48] <jan__64> on haikuware.com you also find the Sisong IDE and Paladin[19:21:24] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[19:21:54] <zizban> Real men code in assembly using ed[19:23:19] <stpere> zizban: good old time[19:24:08] <mmadia> _real_ programmers use butterflies.[19:24:22] <pulkomandy> i do code in assembly. but not on x86 :)[19:24:23] <zizban> heh[19:24:24] <mmadia> http://xkcd.com/378/[19:24:35] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[19:24:35] <iMax_pp> Meta - Super - Ctrl - Butterflies... :)[19:24:37] <fly-away> butter flyes?[19:24:50] <fly-away> wtf?[19:24:51] <DraX> real men just use emacs which does it for you.[19:24:55] *** sprma has joined #haiku[19:24:59] <iMax_pp> fly-away: just read the link.[19:25:01] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[19:25:10] <michaelvo> I use notepad[19:25:12] <zizban> Thats a great comic[19:25:14] <iMax_pp> Erm it's running into a Troll...[19:25:20] <fly-away> oh[19:25:21] <DraX> M-x butterfly actually works in emacs[19:25:22] <DraX> just, fyi[19:25:37] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[19:25:37] <fly-away> i totally forget this canadian xkcd[19:26:12] <zizban> I am using to StyledEdit to write my NaNoWriMo novel :)[19:26:48] <zizban> www.nanowrimo.org[19:28:36] <zizban> StyledEdit+wc -w = word count bliss[19:32:35] *** jan__64 has quit IRC[19:32:46] <mmadia> zizban are you using any revision control on the document?[19:33:03] <mmadia> ... like a local hg repository.[19:33:23] <PasNox> hello all[19:33:29] <zizban> nah, just one doc. One revision. No time for much else :)[19:36:43] *** hisoka999 has joined #haiku[19:37:01] *** Kernel86__ is now known as Kernel86|Laptop[19:38:09] *** nutela has quit IRC[19:39:24] <StreaK|ON> michaelvo: i've tested fheroes2 yesterday and it's not work..[19:39:49] <michaelvo> hum? why?[19:39:57] <StreaK|ON> runtime_loader: /boot/common/lib/libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0.2.7: Could not resolve symbol 'SMPEG_enablevideo'[19:39:58] <StreaK|ON> resolve symbol "SMPEG_enablevideo" returned: -2147478780[19:39:58] <StreaK|ON> runtime_loader: /boot/common/lib/libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0.2.7: Troubles relocating: Symbol not found[19:40:21] <StreaK|ON> any ideas?[19:40:25] <michaelvo> do you have libsmpeg on your system?[19:40:29] <StreaK|ON> yes[19:40:34] <michaelvo> gcc4?[19:40:43] <StreaK|ON> gcc4 sdl[19:41:00] <michaelvo> then you not download from my sdl gcc4 libs[19:41:00] <StreaK|ON> how about porting into gcc2h?[19:41:11] <CIA-46> zooey * r33885 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):[19:41:11] <CIA-46> * introduced two new private methods, _PreviousWordStart() and _NextWordStart(),[19:41:11] <CIA-46> which are now being used to implement the word-wise keyboard navigation,[19:41:11] <CIA-46> fixing #4785[19:41:25] <StreaK|ON> btw.. Hugen_ have problems with FHeroes2 aswell[19:41:38] <StreaK|ON> but different [ dunno what exact[19:41:57] <michaelvo> download this http://www.haikuware.com/directory/view-details/development/class-libraries/sdlgamelibraries-gcc4[19:42:10] <Hugen_> but I use gcc2hybrid[19:42:28] <Hugen_> and lack libpng propably[19:42:59] <zizban> let me know when freeciv works on Haiku[19:43:42] * Hugen_ place all sdl in /boot/system/lib[19:44:35] <michaelvo> I will upload newer versions today[19:44:47] *** slaine_ has quit IRC[19:44:51] <StreaK|ON> excellent[19:45:02] <zizban> But it can't work until after NaNoWriMo else I'll get no writing done.[19:47:16] *** kitallis has quit IRC[19:47:26] <michaelvo> a whole month will be needed and I have no time[19:47:48] <StreaK|ON> this time other error with your libs[19:47:51] <StreaK|ON> runtime_loader: /boot/system/lib/libnetwork.so: Could not resolve symbol '__throw'[19:47:52] <StreaK|ON> resolve symbol "__throw" returned: -2147478780[19:47:52] <StreaK|ON> runtime_loader: /boot/system/lib/libnetwork.so: Troubles relocating: Symbol not found[19:48:41] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[19:50:07] * StreaK|ON annoyed[19:50:26] <Kerwin> I heard someone is working on mouse pointer integration for virutalbox, anyone knows how it is going ?[19:51:48] <StreaK|ON> michaelvo: rev33859[19:51:59] <michaelvo> gcc2hyrbrid?[19:52:19] <Hugen_> brb[19:52:24] <StreaK|ON> right[19:52:34] <michaelvo> only a sec[19:52:34] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[19:53:30] *** zizban has quit IRC[19:53:49] <michaelvo> "Troubles relocating: Symbol not found" it's because the game looks for libnetwork gcc4, but only found libnetwork gcc2[19:54:35] <michaelvo> as I said , switch to gcc4hybrid with want to play[19:54:58] <michaelvo> I believe that soon will be the default one[19:55:07] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[19:55:36] <michaelvo> when R2 arrive will not be needed port this again[19:56:12] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[19:56:26] <michaelvo> I want upload Command & Conquer Red Alert 1.. but haikuwares don't let me upload 50mb[19:56:36] *** mmlr has joined #haiku[19:56:43] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[19:56:53] *** mmlr has left #haiku[19:58:13] <StreaK|ON> compress in by 7z[19:58:19] <StreaK|ON> using 7z[19:58:31] <StreaK|ON> with max compression[20:00:08] *** adamk_ has quit IRC[20:00:08] <michaelvo> yes[20:02:29] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:03:45] <michaelvo> haiku gcc2 only makes sense if you uses goBe productive[20:03:46] <StreaK|ON> another libs tested with FHeroes2 and gettind another error :)[20:04:15] <StreaK|ON> runtime_loader: /boot/common/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3: Could not resolve symbol '__ti5BView'[20:04:16] <StreaK|ON> resolve symbol "__ti5BView" returned: -2147478780[20:04:16] <StreaK|ON> runtime_loader: /boot/common/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3: Troubles relocating: Symbol not found[20:04:25] * StreaK|ON lol[20:04:47] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[20:04:57] <prOSy> hey[20:05:08] <prOSy> +a[20:05:58] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[20:06:54] <michaelvo> haahahaha lol[20:07:04] <michaelvo> sorry. but this game is not for gcc2[20:07:15] <michaelvo> I wil change the description[20:08:24] *** mmadia has quit IRC[20:09:21] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[20:09:24] <MrSunshine_> FHeroes2 ?[20:10:01] <StreaK|ON> yes[20:10:05] <MrSunshine_> what is that ?[20:10:32] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[20:10:48] <MrSunshine_> ohh heroes2 ? :)[20:10:56] <StreaK|ON> yes[20:10:59] <StreaK|ON> homm2[20:11:01] <StreaK|ON> port[20:11:06] <MrSunshine_> why not heroes 3 :/[20:11:32] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[20:11:37] <StreaK|ON> 'coz there's no opensource port , i think[20:11:59] <StreaK|ON> anyway , homm2 for me is better than homm3[20:12:17] <StreaK|ON> better balanced creatures..[20:13:29] *** GonoszTopi_ has joined #haiku[20:13:47] <michaelvo> I don't found the sorces of heroes 3[20:13:55] <michaelvo> sources[20:14:03] <MrSunshine_> me neither :)[20:14:34] <michaelvo> I never played heroes, but I will learn[20:15:08] <StreaK|ON> awesome game if you like quasi strategy mixed with easy rpg[20:15:21] <StreaK|ON> time eater..[20:15:37] *** ukev has quit IRC[20:17:23] <CIA-46> zooey * r33886 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/TextView.cpp:[20:17:23] <CIA-46> fixed regression of r33882 reported by Michael Weirauch:[20:17:23] <CIA-46> * wrapping must always be possible at a newline![20:20:14] <hUMUNGUs> f*cking rubin kazan.. defensive, destrutive shit... aaargh[20:21:29] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[20:21:40] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[20:22:25] <jmayfield> no[20:22:31] <michaelvo> Sao Paulo >>> Barcelona >>> Real Madrid >>> (infinite) >>> Rubin Kazan[20:24:30] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[20:24:40] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[20:25:22] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[20:26:31] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[20:27:26] *** iMax_pp has quit IRC[20:28:00] *** phalax has joined #haiku[20:28:07] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[20:28:34] <Kerwin> trunk is broken ?[20:29:28] *** GonoszTopi has quit IRC[20:29:28] *** GonoszTopi_ is now known as GonoszTopi[20:36:00] *** skarmiglione has joined #haiku[20:39:10] *** oxoocoffee has joined #haiku[20:42:27] *** baia has joined #haiku[20:45:21] *** oxoocoffee has quit IRC[20:47:46] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[20:47:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[20:48:38] *** Hugen has quit IRC[20:48:54] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has quit IRC[20:49:36] *** eddy has joined #haiku[20:50:04] *** xspager has joined #haiku[20:50:30] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[20:51:32] *** oco has joined #haiku[20:51:35] *** eddy has quit IRC[20:51:44] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[20:53:25] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[20:56:28] *** leszek has joined #haiku[20:56:43] <leszek> hi[20:56:56] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has joined #haiku[21:01:52] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[21:02:41] *** andreas_dr has joined #haiku[21:04:03] *** adamk_ has joined #haiku[21:06:54] *** xvedejas has joined #haiku[21:10:56] *** phalax_ has joined #haiku[21:19:02] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[21:22:49] *** phalax_ has quit IRC[21:23:21] *** phalax has quit IRC[21:23:41] *** phalax has joined #haiku[21:23:54] *** xspager has left #haiku[21:24:11] *** dr_evil has left #haiku[21:25:26] *** GonoszTopi has quit IRC[21:42:29] *** PasNox has quit IRC[21:44:16] *** MadEchidna has joined #haiku[21:46:35] *** xvedejas has quit IRC[21:50:51] *** markos_ has quit IRC[21:52:16] *** luroh has joined #haiku[21:54:44] *** The123king has quit IRC[21:58:36] *** GuiGui2 has joined #haiku[21:58:39] *** wildur has quit IRC[22:06:57] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[22:07:12] *** PasNox has quit IRC[22:09:58] *** fhein has quit IRC[22:16:00] *** kirilla has quit IRC[22:16:57] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[22:20:43] *** andreas_dr4006 has joined #haiku[22:21:42] *** MYOB has joined #haiku[22:23:05] *** ukev has joined #haiku[22:24:08] <MYOB> anyone ever had an issue where OSS is working but veerrrrrry quietly?[22:24:40] *** andreas_dr4006 has quit IRC[22:25:10] <MrSunshine_> try turning up the volume ;P[22:25:32] <MYOB> not that. from osstest its as if its the rear outputs its presenting me with in the media kit[22:25:36] <adamk_> I've used OSS with my intel HDA and haven't had issues with the volume.[22:26:15] <MrSunshine_> is oss in haiku by default? :)[22:26:21] *** Kerwin has quit IRC[22:26:33] <MYOB> osstest on front = grand, on rear = slight whisper, centre/side = nothing[22:26:36] <adamk_> MrSunshine_: No.[22:26:44] <MrSunshine_> ok then no, havent tested oss :P[22:28:28] <MYOB> right, just set it to think the green jack = rear speakers, seems to be OK now. though my front panel headphone jack isn't wired to that[22:38:02] <StreaK|ON> What do you think about this post , guys: http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Haiku-gcc2hybrid-and-software-for-gcc4[22:40:03] *** andreas_dr has quit IRC[22:41:42] *** tqh2 has quit IRC[22:42:18] <MYOB> StreaK|ON presuming thats you that posted that - you're doing stuff wrong if GCC4 apps do not run on a GCC2Hybrid[22:42:25] <MYOB> or GCC2 on a GCC4Hybrid[22:43:08] <luroh> yeah, i must admit i don't quite understand the post either[22:43:43] <luroh> that said, i'm running pure gcc2 only[22:45:53] *** netstar has quit IRC[22:45:57] *** prOSy has quit IRC[22:48:06] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has quit IRC[22:48:23] *** euank has joined #haiku[22:48:27] *** mortuosplango has quit IRC[22:50:31] *** tqh has joined #haiku[22:51:12] *** genkie has joined #haiku[22:51:34] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[22:52:03] *** MYOB has quit IRC[22:53:10] *** genkie has quit IRC[22:53:27] *** genkie has joined #haiku[22:54:45] *** ukev has quit IRC[22:55:03] *** baia_ has joined #haiku[22:56:11] *** markos_ has joined #haiku[22:56:20] *** markos_ has quit IRC[22:57:21] *** netstar has joined #haiku[22:57:39] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[23:01:14] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[23:01:44] *** baia has quit IRC[23:06:16] *** genkie has quit IRC[23:06:32] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[23:07:48] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[23:08:43] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[23:09:34] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[23:09:36] *** HaikuBot has quit IRC[23:10:10] <CIA-46> tqh * r33887 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/bus_managers/acpi/ (include/platform/achaiku.h oshaiku.c):[23:10:10] <CIA-46> * Mostly format cleanups and comment clarifications.[23:10:10] <CIA-46> * Corrected AcpiOsReadable and AcpiOsWritable to always return true in kernel and to better check bit flags otherwise.[23:10:10] <CIA-46> * Removed comment about implementing acpi object cache with slab (object_cache). ACPI's own is simple, light and nice enough.[23:12:21] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:13:08] <euank> TQH u there?[23:13:36] <euank> damm stupid scroll window though he'd reappeared hehe[23:14:46] *** dru_ has quit IRC[23:15:17] *** leszek has quit IRC[23:15:48] <netstar> Is there any way to increase desktop icon size?[23:16:07] <euank> sit closer to the monitor[23:16:23] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[23:18:29] <StreaK|ON> RMB od desktop -> Icon View -> increase icon size[23:20:36] <StreaK|ON> or use magnify glasses glued to eyebrows [ like me :) ][23:21:08] * StreaK|ON getting sleepy[23:21:32] <StreaK|ON> good night ya'll[23:21:53] *** miqlas has quit IRC[23:22:19] *** brandon__ has quit IRC[23:22:20] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[23:26:59] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[23:28:11] *** dru_ has quit IRC[23:28:25] *** netstar has quit IRC[23:29:05] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:29:44] *** luroh has quit IRC[23:33:16] *** skarmiglione has quit IRC[23:35:07] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[23:37:36] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[23:41:20] *** hisoka999 has quit IRC[23:44:46] *** HaikUbuntu has joined #haiku[23:45:17] *** LinuxKeitaro has joined #haiku[23:46:29] *** Andrius has quit IRC[23:52:06] *** glootech_ has joined #haiku[23:54:02] *** demetrio has joined #haiku[23:54:27] *** baia_ has quit IRC[23:54:52] *** mmadia has quit IRC[23:56:13] *** DocPheniX has joined #haiku[23:57:39] <demetrio> are there plans to translate haiku for other languages?[23:58:07] <euank> yes, there are a lot of languages already being translated[23:59:14] <demetrio> euank, do you know how i could help on translantions?[23:59:37] <euank> not exactly, but I can certainly point u in the right direction[23:59:46] <euank> or those responsible i think