November 2, 2009 
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November 2, 2009 [00:00:57] *** kirilla has quit IRC[00:03:24] *** E-WolfShade has quit IRC[00:03:31] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[00:03:39] *** joshc has quit IRC[00:03:41] *** dru_ has quit IRC[00:05:47] *** FSX has quit IRC[00:08:05] *** triplez has quit IRC[00:08:47] *** triplez has joined #haiku[00:09:18] *** f_hein has quit IRC[00:09:19] *** dja has quit IRC[00:09:24] *** dja has joined #haiku[00:09:30] *** pfoetche1 has quit IRC[00:09:35] *** dja has quit IRC[00:09:53] *** binaryimpulse has quit IRC[00:13:16] *** ChronoZ has quit IRC[00:14:25] *** dja_ has joined #haiku[00:20:17] *** raichoo has quit IRC[00:22:48] *** alexsuraci has joined #haiku[00:22:49] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[00:23:25] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[00:25:45] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[00:27:00] <NathanP> He he... I picked up my CD labled backup and it was a Haiku install CD. Now I need to find my actual backup CD. I think it's labeled "AROS"[00:27:31] <impulse_> hah[00:27:33] <helf|laptop> lol[00:27:57] <NathanP> I'm very bad at keeping track of what's what with my CD's.[00:29:46] <NathanP> Ah, found my backup CD.[00:30:00] <NathanP> It was labeled "Mandriva 2009."[00:30:14] <helf|laptop> thats kind of sad, NathanP[00:30:23] <OmniMancer> label it right?[00:30:36] <NathanP> It's to confuse wannabe thieves. Yeah...[00:31:30] *** korli has quit IRC[00:32:17] * NathanP is trying to burn a DVD and is hating how multiple burning software are REFUSING to recognize it, when it worked fine last night.[00:32:28] <NathanP> Drives me nut(er).[00:32:31] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[00:33:33] <NathanP> Oh, now it is, but it's telling me a 4GB disc has no space.[00:34:42] <evil_core> NathanP: reserved for root probably[00:35:07] <NathanP> What's root? I've never heard of this root before.[00:35:27] <evil_core> 10% is usually reserved for root[00:35:47] <NathanP> And what is this root?[00:35:56] *** Andrius has quit IRC[00:35:58] <evil_core> to not allow normal user to fill all space area[00:35:58] <HeTo> NathanP: maybe you've worn out the disc[00:36:16] <NathanP> I probably did, HeTo. I re-use them allot.[00:36:29] <evil_core> partition got 40GB?[00:36:44] <NathanP> Si.[00:37:22] <evil_core> and its filled in 36gb. You cannot write from "limited account" but can from "root"?[00:38:07] <evil_core> or maybe theres no more free inodes, if theres too many files[00:38:23] <evil_core> root us uid 0[00:38:26] <evil_core> is*[00:38:52] * NathanP is wondering what this is all about as he looks at his Vista's glowy orb start menu.[00:39:14] <evil_core> about linux, and other unix Os'es[00:39:26] <evil_core> but is making windows bastards there?[00:40:10] <evil_core> what*[00:40:16] <evil_core> are*[00:40:41] <evil_core> hmm...i am going sleep, to many errors in one sentence[00:40:45] <evil_core> good night[00:40:51] *** evil_core has left #haiku[00:41:50] *** kirilla has joined #haiku[00:44:23] *** Hugen_ has left #haiku[00:52:21] *** alexsuraci has quit IRC[00:52:24] <DaaT> hey kirilla[00:53:32] *** fly-away has quit IRC[00:55:21] <saivert> I can't concentrate either[00:55:23] <saivert> sleepy[00:56:54] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[00:57:52] *** alexsuraci has joined #haiku[00:59:14] *** {V} has quit IRC[00:59:26] *** ReformatMe has quit IRC[00:59:33] *** {V} has joined #haiku[01:01:45] *** amuck has joined #haiku[01:02:00] <kirilla> hello DaaT[01:03:48] *** NathanP has quit IRC[01:06:10] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:09:40] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[01:12:00] *** skarmiglione has joined #haiku[01:12:09] *** redblue has quit IRC[01:19:10] *** broadcast has joined #haiku[01:24:43] *** cb88 has joined #haiku[01:28:00] *** DaaT has quit IRC[01:28:30] *** LinuxKeitaro has joined #haiku[01:36:55] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:38:50] *** kwag has joined #haiku[01:45:30] *** Syn has joined #haiku[01:45:44] *** luroh has quit IRC[01:45:59] *** Syn is now known as Guest59498[01:55:14] *** glootech has quit IRC[02:03:50] *** mvfranz has joined #haiku[02:10:21] *** triplez has quit IRC[02:10:38] *** kirilla has quit IRC[02:12:32] *** skarmiglione has left #haiku[02:14:49] *** {V} is now known as {V}afk[02:16:07] *** HaikuBot1 has quit IRC[02:17:59] *** {V}afk has quit IRC[02:19:35] *** {V} has joined #haiku[02:21:06] *** mvfranz has quit IRC[02:21:40] <cb88> about that crosscompiler I mentioned earlier... i was being stupid... had set the wrong optimisation level... custom sparc32 distro here i come[02:22:04] <cb88> not of haiku...though yet muahhaa[02:22:15] <cb88> who knows...[02:26:42] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[02:30:44] *** Zoness has quit IRC[02:32:16] *** triplez has joined #haiku[02:51:35] *** baia has joined #haiku[02:52:36] *** dru_ has quit IRC[02:54:56] *** dru_ has joined #haiku[02:55:48] *** joeyadams has quit IRC[02:57:32] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[03:05:52] *** broadcast has quit IRC[03:08:41] *** joeyadams has joined #haiku[03:10:44] *** {V} is now known as {V}afk[03:16:51] *** kwag has quit IRC[03:17:16] *** the_ringmaster has joined #haiku[03:19:49] *** MadEchidna is now known as Mad|Store[03:22:17] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[03:23:23] *** NathanP has joined #Haiku[03:23:52] <ddavid123> one of the best features I love about Haiku is that everything is only 2 clicks away![03:24:31] <NathanP> Or five, depending on the response time. ;)[03:24:40] <ddavid123> lol[03:25:04] <ddavid123> the second is how simple the gui is[03:25:14] *** alexsuraci has quit IRC[03:25:52] <NathanP> You mean, a well balanced design with a modern visual, but still simple and un-obtrusive interface?[03:26:25] <ddavid123> what gui toolkit does Haiku use?[03:26:29] <ddavid123> yes, exactly[03:26:31] *** alexsuraci has joined #haiku[03:27:00] <OmniMancer> it uses the BeAPI[03:27:05] <OmniMancer> which is what BeOS used[03:27:12] <OmniMancer> /invented[03:27:12] <NathanP> AKA: No crappy X.org and the like. It's own stuff.[03:27:17] <OmniMancer> ya[03:27:20] <OmniMancer> is good :D[03:27:34] <ddavid123> that is cool, X.org is a headache[03:27:38] <NathanP> I'm quite sure you couldn't do what BeOS and Haiku do if you used X.org.[03:28:04] <ddavid123> I'm sure X.org would crash if I tried! lol[03:28:55] <ddavid123> so the app server is X.org's equivelent[03:29:29] <NathanP> No, the App server is not X.org's equivalent, since they are two different things.[03:29:38] <NathanP> And do two different things.[03:29:47] <ddavid123> ok[03:30:25] <ddavid123> X.org is responsible for graphical displays and windowing, what does this in Haiku?[03:30:49] <AlienSoldier> ddavid123 app server is like X+ kernel in one[03:31:18] <NathanP> Or am I wrong again?[03:31:26] <ddavid123> ok[03:32:09] <ddavid123> I love the LaunchBox[03:32:21] <ddavid123> can it be configured[03:32:21] <NathanP> I never used it.[03:32:38] <AlienSoldier> app servier is quite complicated, it's the thing that i think took the longer to get right in haiku (networking don't count)[03:32:38] * NathanP types /clear for his remaining bit of inflated ego to be protected.[03:32:39] <ddavid123> to launch commonly used apps?[03:35:00] <AlienSoldier> just watched a trailer for a remoake of Toki, that is how you remake a classic arcasde game[03:35:10] <AlienSoldier> *arcade[03:35:58] <cb88> X does compile for haiku i think though there are packages for X on tiltos[03:46:43] *** thotypous has quit IRC[03:47:57] *** the_ringmaster has quit IRC[03:49:13] <alexsuraci> Is there any way to tell what driver a device is using? (video, in this case)[03:50:48] <mmadia> listimage | grep drivers/[03:51:26] <mmadia> that'll display which drivers are currently loaded.[03:51:29] <alexsuraci> mmadia: thanks[03:51:54] <alexsuraci> hmm, still loading vesa it seems, even though I've installed the nvidia drivers; where would I specify nvidia?[03:52:19] <mmadia> are the nvidia drivers loading in addition to vesa?[03:52:21] <alexsuraci> (and by "the nvidia drivers" I mean the unified drivers found on haikuware)[03:52:32] <alexsuraci> I don't see them anywhere in that list[03:52:34] <mmadia> and what chipset/card?[03:52:51] <alexsuraci> GT200, GTX 285. probably too modern, but I figured it's worth a shot[03:53:45] <mmadia> the nvidia support maxes out on the 7xxx series.[03:54:02] <alexsuraci> wouldn't work at all on anything newer?[03:54:36] <mmadia> as the 8xxx basically requires a separate driver due to the changes.[03:54:51] <alexsuraci> ah[03:55:34] <alexsuraci> thanks for your help, I'll just stick with vesa on here then :P[03:56:53] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[03:58:15] *** Disreali has quit IRC[03:58:37] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[03:58:58] *** baia has quit IRC[04:06:06] *** alexsuraci has quit IRC[04:06:15] *** alexsuraci has joined #haiku[04:13:36] *** cb88 has quit IRC[04:16:18] *** brandon__ has quit IRC[04:28:24] *** aldeck has quit IRC[04:44:05] *** Geoz has quit IRC[04:47:32] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[05:00:49] <CIA-46> scottmc * r452 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/cal3d/ (cal3d-0.11.0.patch patches/cal3d-0.11.0.patch patches): Trimmed patch to just include the parts that need to be patched.[05:05:58] *** NathanP has quit IRC[05:10:46] *** khindenburg has quit IRC[05:38:08] <alexsuraci> hmm. installing haiku on a usb stick (very...slowly...). it is now on "45948 of 45865".[05:38:20] *** Mad|Store has quit IRC[05:38:36] <alexsuraci> and rising :P[05:38:39] <CIA-46> scottmc * r453 /haikuports/trunk/media-libs/cal3d/patches/cal3d-0.11.0.patch: Updated cal3d patch to fix a couple issues when building with gcc2, note that it's note yet building with gcc2, but this gets it further, gcc4 build should still work ok though.[05:39:55] *** Mad|Store has joined #haiku[05:42:08] <alexsuraci> oh, I see why.[05:42:13] *** umccullough_aa1 has joined #haiku[05:42:23] <alexsuraci> I guess the second number is precalculated, but really it's copying every file from my current install[05:45:54] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[05:46:00] <Kokito> hello[05:46:33] <AlonzoTG> om?[05:46:38] <ari-free> hi[05:47:26] <AlonzoTG> I actually have a working (last I checked) BeOS 5 installation.[05:48:18] <AlonzoTG> who cares about GCC2? =\[05:49:20] <alexsuraci> oh god now it's copying my email[05:50:34] <Kokito> こんにちは[05:50:42] <Kokito> oops, wrong window...[05:50:55] <AlonzoTG> I wish I knew japanese.[05:50:59] <AlonzoTG> I love anime.[05:51:40] <AlonzoTG> I know those are hirigana letters but I'm too stupid to read them. =\[05:53:38] *** Ghostride has quit IRC[05:53:57] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[05:54:18] *** Kokito has quit IRC[05:57:08] *** umccullough_aa1 has quit IRC[06:06:07] *** Ghostride has joined #haiku[06:06:27] *** Disreali has quit IRC[06:10:54] *** mmadia has quit IRC[06:16:49] *** bknoedel has joined #haiku[06:22:32] *** bknoedel has quit IRC[06:23:49] *** Andrius has joined #haiku[06:28:38] *** bebarker has joined #haiku[06:41:31] *** prOSy has quit IRC[06:54:20] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[07:03:46] *** arjen has joined #haiku[07:19:30] *** joeyadams has quit IRC[07:23:40] *** dru_ has quit IRC[07:28:10] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[07:29:59] *** arjen is now known as _arjen_[07:38:48] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[07:38:55] *** ari-free has quit IRC[07:39:35] *** ari-free has joined #haiku[07:39:38] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[07:40:14] *** ari-free has quit IRC[07:40:47] *** ari-free has joined #haiku[07:40:49] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[07:40:55] *** ari-free has quit IRC[07:41:36] *** ari-free has joined #haiku[07:41:59] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[07:42:16] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[07:44:35] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[07:44:41] <Teknomancer> morning :)[07:44:44] <Teknomancer> back in .de :)[08:01:22] *** The123king1 has quit IRC[08:03:08] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[08:04:06] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[08:04:35] *** noisetonepause has quit IRC[08:06:09] *** noisetonepause has joined #haiku[08:12:12] *** m0ns00n has joined #haiku[08:14:26] *** fhein has joined #haiku[08:21:09] *** joshc has joined #haiku[08:23:53] <OmniMancer> morning[08:26:45] <Teknomancer> hi[08:29:13] <JonathanThompson> It's the meeting of the mancers![08:29:31] *** HaikUbuntu has joined #haiku[08:30:13] <JonathanThompson> (Or, it's a merry mancer meeting)[08:35:30] <Teknomancer> hi JonathanThompson[08:35:33] <Teknomancer> :)[08:35:38] <JonathanThompson> Hi Teknomancer[08:36:01] <Teknomancer> Today's forecast: /me predicts some post-vacation stress for himself[08:36:50] <JonathanThompson> Vacation is what you take after the vacation to recover from the vacation you took from work which is often less stressful than the vacation, which tends to seem to be too much like work to be a true vacation![08:37:22] <Teknomancer> i will have to write a parser for that[08:37:41] <JonathanThompson> You'll do that on vacation?[08:38:10] <Teknomancer> no that'd be part of my vocation[08:38:26] <JonathanThompson> And then there's the vocation vacation vocation.[08:38:57] <Teknomancer> :)[08:39:24] <JonathanThompson> English is such a fun language to play with, isn't it?[08:39:33] <Teknomancer> yeah :)[08:39:49] <Teknomancer> i still don't fully get the buffalo x 7 sentence :p[08:40:07] <JonathanThompson> I think it was fully intended on causing human parsing errors :P[08:40:23] <JonathanThompson> Of course, it helps if you know the idioms of which it uses, and the locations.[08:41:12] <JonathanThompson> There's a Buffalo, New York, and you can also buffalo someone, and if someone is a buffalo from buffalo you can buffalo buffalo, etc.[08:41:23] <Teknomancer> ah[08:41:28] <Teknomancer> yeah weird :)[08:41:31] * JonathanThompson imagines a perverse english teacher assigning that sentence for kids to parse out and label[08:41:38] <Teknomancer> hehe[08:41:48] <JonathanThompson> Sounds like something I would do ;)[08:42:07] <Teknomancer> yeah and in O-log(N) time?[08:42:14] <JonathanThompson> Yes :)[08:42:26] <JonathanThompson> O-log(Buffalo) time :D[08:43:28] <Teknomancer> hah[08:43:35] <JonathanThompson> Just watch out for Buffalo logs: kind of squishy and stinky, hard to wash off your shoes :)[08:43:39] <Teknomancer> hm, need to get back to work :/[08:43:44] <Teknomancer> haha[08:43:47] <Teknomancer> cu[08:43:48] <JonathanThompson> There's that 4-letter word again![08:43:51] <JonathanThompson> Seeya[08:47:36] *** sprma has joined #haiku[08:49:43] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[08:50:08] <Al2O3> My call for an official Haiku song is ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcUMfqoFJPc[08:53:46] *** kitallis has joined #haiku[08:55:57] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[08:58:43] *** wildur has quit IRC[08:59:47] *** totish has joined #haiku[09:07:47] *** totish has quit IRC[09:10:42] <CIA-46> scottmc * r454 /haikuports/trunk/media-gfx/tuxpaint/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Initial .bep file for tuxpaint, and updated patch which includes the .rdef file. 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joined #haiku[15:42:01] <unixtrix> can someone help teach me how to mount a raw .image haiku file from within Haiku?[15:43:43] *** michail has joined #haiku[15:43:51] <mmadia> double click it.. if the .image is lacking it's icon, then you'll need to double click it a second time.[15:44:05] <mmadia> as the first merely identifies it.[15:44:09] <unixtrix> thanks[15:44:12] *** raichoo has joined #haiku[15:46:17] *** zizban has joined #haiku[15:48:07] *** _arjen_ has quit IRC[15:49:31] *** dflemstr has joined #haiku[15:49:49] *** ukev has joined #haiku[15:52:14] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[15:52:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[15:52:32] *** prOSy has joined #haiku[15:52:38] <prOSy> hi[15:53:17] <zizban> hi[15:53:31] <kitallis> hi[15:53:52] *** nutela1 has joined #haiku[15:58:47] <Teknomancer> hi[16:00:22] *** nutela has quit IRC[16:00:55] *** thotypous has quit IRC[16:05:51] * zizban is hoping is atheros wifi card arrives today.[16:08:38] *** kitallis has quit IRC[16:10:23] *** 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No package. tomorrow then[16:39:21] <mmadia> mmu_man : did you see http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/scottmc/2009-11-01_2009_google_summer_code_mentor_summit there's some bits on !Linux OS's working together for drivers and such.[16:39:48] *** khindenburg has joined #haiku[16:42:02] <mmu_man> mmadia yes I noticed teh post on the ml but didn't answer yet[16:42:33] <kitallis> OHAI[16:43:34] *** amuck_ has joined #haiku[16:44:57] <mmu_man> anyone has R5 around ?[16:45:10] <mmu_man> BONE and non BONE ?[16:45:24] <mmadia> installed or just an imagefile?[16:45:34] <mmu_man> I'd just need a[16:45:35] <mmu_man> nm /system/add-ons/kernel/bus_managers/tty | grep select[16:45:51] <mmu_man> so you can probably mount the image to do it[16:46:15] <mmu_man> getting tired of this BONE tty module struct change without version change[16:46:26] <mmu_man> I'll just do run time detection to avoid crashing[16:46:32] <zizban> smack it around[16:48:46] *** saivert has quit IRC[16:49:28] <mmadia> mmu_man http://haiku.pastebin.com/m53342696[16:52:22] *** netstar_ has joined #haiku[16:53:11] <mmu_man> thx[16:53:23] <mmu_man> perfect[16:53:25] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[16:53:38] <mmu_man> I'll just check for this sym[16:54:06] *** nutela1 has joined #haiku[16:54:24] *** Barrett has quit IRC[16:57:16] *** The123king has joined #haiku[16:57:49] *** ukev has quit IRC[16:58:06] *** GonoszTopi has joined #haiku[16:58:23] *** alexsuraci has joined #haiku[16:59:36] *** alexsuraci has quit IRC[17:00:47] *** alexsuraci has joined #haiku[17:01:08] *** nutela has quit IRC[17:05:34] *** netstar_ has quit IRC[17:07:36] *** netstar_ has joined #haiku[17:07:41] <netstar_> Hi[17:07:54] <StreaK|ON> Hey guys , where i can find libdl.so? Maybe you'll know where it resides [ which lib package ][17:08:15] <StreaK|ON> looking for this to test NVU under haiku[17:11:13] *** netstar_ has quit IRC[17:11:45] <mmadia> libdl maybe mozilla specific.[17:11:58] <mmadia> ... as NVU is based on composer[17:13:23] <StreaK|ON> mmadia, thx.. will look for this in FF builds[17:14:22] *** netstar_ has joined #haiku[17:17:39] *** netstar_ has quit IRC[17:19:34] <zizban> didn't they fork Nvu for Kompozer?[17:20:27] <mmu_man> heard so[17:20:31] *** sprma has joined #haiku[17:22:17] <mmadia> http://www.kompozer.net/features.php[17:22:40] <mmadia> and http://community.livejournal.com/bezilla/277703.html[17:22:43] *** nutela has joined #haiku[17:22:48] <zizban> might be more useful to port Kompozer at some point.[17:22:54] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[17:23:11] <StreaK|ON> found libdl in web, bot NVU not work ..[17:23:14] <StreaK|ON> *but[17:23:25] <StreaK|ON> crash on start[17:23:26] *** dflemstr has joined #haiku[17:23:31] <StreaK|ON> :/[17:23:55] <mmu_man> libdl ?[17:24:02] <mmu_man> you shouldn't need this[17:24:23] *** ukev has joined #haiku[17:24:25] <StreaK|ON> nvu requires this while starting app[17:25:08] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[17:30:35] *** nutela1 has quit IRC[17:30:53] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[17:37:36] *** hisoka999 has joined #haiku[17:38:55] *** thotypous has quit IRC[17:38:59] *** Matias has joined #haiku[17:39:25] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[17:44:36] <mmu_man> KERN 'rescan'[5268]: pc_serial: detected tty module /boot/beos/system/add-ons/kernel/bus_managers/tty[17:44:37] <mmu_man> KERN 'rescan'[5268]: pc_serial: found ttydeselect() in tty module[17:44:44] <mmu_man> ok seems to detect correctly...[17:44:53] <mmu_man> now I just need to do some struct copying[17:45:05] *** Geoz has joined #haiku[17:46:25] <StreaK|ON> hey, guys which version of unrar is binded to haiku? [ theres no info after running unrar about ver ][17:46:44] *** ziomatto has joined #haiku[17:47:05] <StreaK|ON> theres no info about ver after running unrar[17:49:49] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[17:49:55] *** Matias has quit IRC[17:50:04] <mmu_man> svn log src/bin/unrar/[17:50:04] <mmu_man> ...[17:50:09] <mmu_man> r22584 | axeld | 2007-10-16 01:49:42 +0200 (mar 16 oct 2007) | 2 lines[17:50:11] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[17:50:13] <mmu_man>[17:50:13] <mmu_man> Updated unrar to 3.7.8, patch by Ioan Molnar - thanks![17:51:28] *** fly-away has quit IRC[17:52:26] *** sprma has quit IRC[17:52:50] *** Guest59498 has quit IRC[17:54:34] <StreaK|ON> ok, thx.. because i sucked from tiltos a 3.80ver, and will be testing it on clean haiku[17:55:14] *** saivert has joined #haiku[17:56:53] *** nutela1 has joined #haiku[17:56:59] <StreaK|ON> theres a little problemn with actual unrar ver on haiku. app not accepts passwords to compressed archives with passwords[17:58:21] *** jan__64 has joined #haiku[17:58:34] *** Hugen has joined #haiku[17:58:53] <zizban> passwords are for the weak. Obfuscation is what real men use.[17:59:22] <warpdesign> lol[17:59:38] <warpdesign> nah, real men play the dangerous way: no password, no obfuscation, nada :p[17:59:44] <warpdesign> that's real men ;)[18:00:26] *** jan__64 has quit IRC[18:00:46] *** leszek has joined #haiku[18:00:56] <zizban> heh :)[18:01:03] <leszek> hi[18:01:07] <zizban> hi[18:01:20] *** nutela has quit IRC[18:03:01] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:05:56] <StreaK|ON> hi leszek[18:07:07] *** vegai has quit IRC[18:10:58] *** leszek has quit IRC[18:13:15] *** thotypous has quit IRC[18:14:55] *** Hugen has quit IRC[18:19:21] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[18:19:53] <The123king> i officially now have more PC's booting Haiku than XP[18:20:34] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[18:21:01] <tqh> so you are upgrading to win 7? :P[18:21:03] <zizban> I have a Mac and my one pc (a laptop) runs Haiku.[18:22:04] *** Kroki has joined #haiku[18:22:06] <zizban> it'll run Haiku even better when my atheros wifi card comes in[18:24:36] <The123king> I'd never upgrade to any derivative of Vista[18:25:00] <zizban> we run Vista here at work. It's not bad but not awesome, either[18:26:56] <zizban> wc rocks. I'm glad Haiku has it built in.[18:27:19] <The123king> wc?[18:27:22] *** ukev has quit IRC[18:27:27] *** uukev has joined #haiku[18:27:46] <zizban> command line Word Count[18:27:53] <zizban> wc -w file..txt[18:28:26] *** uukev has quit IRC[18:28:31] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[18:28:40] *** ukev has joined #haiku[18:29:18] *** jmayfield has joined #haiku[18:30:17] *** nutela has joined #haiku[18:30:20] *** HaikUbuntu has joined #haiku[18:30:44] *** triplez_ has joined #haiku[18:31:27] <The123king> does haiku support core i7?[18:32:39] *** peerkoel has quit IRC[18:32:57] <zizban> no idea[18:34:40] *** peerkoel has joined #haiku[18:35:08] <mmadia> there may be some tickets about i7[18:35:24] *** jprostko has joined #haiku[18:36:08] *** ReformatMe has joined #haiku[18:38:25] <The123king> it doesn't really matter that much, ity was really to settle an arguement with a Linux user[18:39:14] <zizban> if someone is a linux user, you uisually can't win arguments[18:39:24] * zizban uses NetBSD[18:40:55] <jmayfield> honestly, i get more shit from not-linux-user assholes than i do from peopel that actually use linux[18:41:07] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[18:41:20] <jmayfield> ..it terms of computer nerd snobbery etc[18:41:24] <jmayfield> in terms[18:41:52] <zizban> yes[18:41:53] <jmayfield> ..has WAY more to do with assholes than it does oses[18:42:08] <zizban> I like Linux but c'mon, its not the Last Word in OSes[18:42:38] <jmayfield> not sure what that means[18:43:24] *** nutela1 has quit IRC[18:44:06] *** jprostko is now known as jprostko_out[18:46:35] *** triplez has quit IRC[18:46:36] *** triplez_ is now known as triplez[18:47:38] *** broadcast has joined #haiku[18:49:17] *** iMax_pp has joined #haiku[18:50:03] *** _arjen_ has joined #haiku[18:51:19] <zizban> I wished freeciv worked. Bum.[18:52:25] *** slaine_ has quit IRC[18:53:55] *** nutela1 has joined #haiku[19:02:53] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[19:04:32] *** jmelesky has joined #haiku[19:08:20] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[19:09:09] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[19:14:31] *** nutela has quit IRC[19:17:56] *** Syn has joined #haiku[19:18:25] *** Syn is now known as Guest8893[19:21:31] *** sprma has joined #haiku[19:21:35] *** kitallis has quit IRC[19:23:53] *** glootech_ is now known as glootech[19:26:14] *** sprma has quit IRC[19:28:35] *** nutela has joined #haiku[19:31:49] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[19:34:20] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[19:35:34] *** nutela1 has quit IRC[19:37:43] *** luroh has joined #haiku[19:42:49] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[19:45:35] *** MrSunshine_ has joined #haiku[19:55:32] *** michaelvo has joined #haiku[19:56:09] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[19:56:19] *** tqh has quit IRC[19:56:51] *** nutela1 has joined #haiku[20:02:10] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[20:05:17] <CIA-46> zooey * r33863 /haiku/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs):[20:05:17] <CIA-46> adding POSIX-functions llround*(), which Maxime reported missing[20:05:17] <CIA-46> * copied implementations for llround(), llroundf() and llroundl() from[20:05:17] <CIA-46> glibc-2.3.2[20:05:17] <CIA-46> * added corresponding declarations to math.h[20:07:44] *** xspager has joined #haiku[20:08:13] *** nutela has quit IRC[20:08:36] *** oxocoffee has joined #haiku[20:15:18] <CIA-46> zooey * r33864 /haiku/trunk/headers/posix/math.h: * corrected tab/space confusion of my last change[20:15:25] *** fly-away has joined #haiku[20:15:59] *** sprma has joined #haiku[20:19:15] <CIA-46> rudolfc * r33865 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/ (4 files in 3 dirs): matrox G450/G550 (apparantly) can do HDTV overlay (720p, 1080p). Bumped version to 0.33.[20:20:51] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[20:21:18] *** joshc has quit IRC[20:21:31] *** joshc has joined #haiku[20:23:57] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:27:20] *** tqh2 has quit IRC[20:28:01] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[20:28:32] *** aphedox has quit IRC[20:29:30] *** GonoszTopi has quit IRC[20:29:39] *** nutela has joined #haiku[20:30:09] *** jprostko_out is now known as jprostko[20:31:38] *** GonoszTopi has joined #haiku[20:31:39] *** nutela1 has quit IRC[20:39:08] *** miqlas_ has joined #haiku[20:41:29] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[20:41:52] * The123king just bought a Haiku mug and R1 A1 commemorative CD[20:42:22] *** hisoka999 has left #haiku[20:44:11] <zizban> nice[20:45:38] <The123king> I thought i better support the best OS since, errrr, ever?[20:46:24] *** baia_ has joined #haiku[20:46:33] <The123king> I was thinking earlier that the only thing that made BeOS dated was lack of multi-userness. And then i found out about PhOS[20:47:57] <jmayfield> oh good lord...[20:48:11] <mmu_man> phos was only multiplexing, and it was quite dangerous, copying stuff around...[20:48:25] <mmu_man> actually R5 had multiuser support builtin but hidden[20:48:50] <The123king> only read an OSNews article on it :|[20:49:31] <The123king> Will Haiku have multi-user support before R1?[20:49:45] <zizban> zeta's multiuser support made babies cry[20:50:10] <pulkomandy> The123king, it was not listed as part of R1 priorities[20:50:17] <pulkomandy> but as they say, patches welcome[20:50:43] <luroh> do we need it, at all?[20:50:48] * The123king can't code for toffee, but is always willing to give it a shot[20:51:15] <The123king> oh, i'm not saying i need multiuser support[20:51:34] <The123king> because no-one in my house knows hpow to even switch my PC on[20:51:43] <luroh> i was just wondering out loud[20:51:49] <The123king> except me of course[20:51:53] <zizban> multiuser is for the weak. real men don't let anyone else near their computer. ever.[20:52:02] <luroh> it's something i've been thinking about for some time[20:52:32] <luroh> yeah, in this day and age, doesn't pretty much everyone have their own computer[20:52:47] <The123king> i think in the long run (glass elevator?) we should at least take a leaf out of UNIX and have a root account[20:53:02] <HeTo> some sort of privilege system is good for security IMO[20:53:09] <luroh> agree[20:53:17] <HeTo> but multi-user might not be the most sensible way to implement that in the end[20:53:25] *** baia has quit IRC[20:53:34] <The123king> maybe not, but it's a way ;)[20:54:25] <HeTo> or at least, it seems all the major OSes have noticed multi-user by itself is not enough, and hence have all sorts of access control systems[20:55:22] *** miqlas has quit IRC[20:56:08] *** Syn- has joined #haiku[20:58:16] *** DocPheniX has quit IRC[20:58:32] *** DocPheniX has joined #haiku[20:58:43] *** nutela1 has joined #haiku[21:00:45] *** iMax_pp has quit IRC[21:01:41] *** iMax_pp has joined #haiku[21:02:13] *** iMax_pp has quit IRC[21:03:29] *** iMax_pp has joined #haiku[21:07:31] <zizban> You can do a dialogue box "Hey stupid, are you SURE you want to do that? YES|NO"[21:08:28] *** Syn has joined #haiku[21:08:36] *** michail has quit IRC[21:08:56] *** Syn is now known as Guest28914[21:09:00] *** baia has joined #haiku[21:11:34] *** Guest8893 has quit IRC[21:11:47] *** dflemstr has quit IRC[21:11:57] *** slawek__ has joined #haiku[21:12:14] *** xspager has quit IRC[21:14:11] *** nutela has quit IRC[21:14:30] *** baia_ has quit IRC[21:15:19] *** xspager has joined #haiku[21:15:53] *** sprma has quit IRC[21:17:04] *** pfoetchen has quit IRC[21:17:38] *** jprostko has left #haiku[21:19:54] *** Barrett has quit IRC[21:20:27] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[21:21:42] *** miqlas_ has quit IRC[21:23:33] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[21:24:06] *** Syn- has quit IRC[21:26:23] <The123king> zizban, sorry for being a bit late, but i'd like to point out the unique prevention methods Haiku has implememted that stop you delelting your system folder[21:26:50] <zizban> I am sure but it's not like I tried it out \[21:26:53] *** warpdesign has left #haiku[21:27:27] <The123king> you have to hold shift down and then click a button in the dialog[21:27:37] *** pfoetchen has joined #haiku[21:27:58] *** joeyadams has joined #haiku[21:28:11] <zizban> ahh[21:28:14] <zizban> cool[21:28:16] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[21:29:23] *** nutela has joined #haiku[21:29:29] *** baia has quit IRC[21:31:03] <iMax_pp> It's sufficient to prevent people from deleting their own system but it's not what I would call a security (or something like a "root" access).[21:32:17] <The123king> yesss. i wasn't suggesting that ;)[21:32:54] <iMax_pp> I know, that was just something that hit me. :)[21:35:20] *** E-WolfShade has joined #haiku[21:37:15] <alexsuraci> What about rm -Rf /system?[21:37:33] <zizban> try it and see[21:37:34] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[21:37:35] <zizban> no, don;t[21:37:37] <alexsuraci> haha[21:37:38] *** Al2O3 has joined #haiku[21:38:21] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[21:38:37] *** Guest28914 has quit IRC[21:39:30] *** nutela2 has joined #haiku[21:40:50] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:41:01] * JonathanThompson considers baiting overly trusting users with dangerous command lines[21:41:26] <iMax_pp> Eh Eh Eh.[21:41:29] *** nutela1 has quit IRC[21:41:47] <zizban> heh[21:42:02] <JonathanThompson> Send me the codez![21:42:09] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[21:43:40] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[21:44:59] <alexsuraci> hrm, MediaPlayer keeps blanking out. it doesn't skip, sound just stops for a while and it picks up again.[21:45:03] <joeyadams> You mean "Plz email me teh codez !!!" ?[21:45:10] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[21:45:14] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[21:45:22] <alexsuraci> where a while is ~1s[21:45:41] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:47:05] *** tqh has joined #haiku[21:47:24] *** nutela has quit IRC[21:49:23] *** michaelvo has quit IRC[21:50:24] *** michaelvo has joined #haiku[21:50:30] *** netstar_ has joined #haiku[21:52:00] <alexsuraci> How would I install a .ttf font?[21:52:39] <michaelvo> simply drop the .ttf file into /boot/system/fonts/ttfonts folder[21:52:43] <michaelvo> and just works[21:52:56] <zizban> didn't it used to be a lot harder in R5?[21:53:08] <michaelvo> AFAIK not[21:53:23] <zizban> My memory is a little fuzzy on the matter[21:53:32] <michaelvo> hahahaha[21:53:33] <alexsuraci> figured it'd be something simple like that :P thanks[21:53:44] <michaelvo> ;)[21:53:45] *** xspager has quit IRC[21:54:38] *** nutela has joined #haiku[21:56:02] *** netstar_ has quit IRC[21:56:29] *** slawek__ has quit IRC[21:57:17] *** Xbertl has quit IRC[21:57:37] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[22:00:16] <alexsuraci> hm, any way to make it show up in the monospace menu?[22:00:26] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:01:23] <mmu_man> alexsuraci well if it is monospace it should appear[22:01:29] <mmu_man> maybe close and reopen the prefs ?[22:01:40] <mmu_man> it shouldn't need a reboot, IIRC it's node monitored[22:02:15] *** Xbertl has joined #haiku[22:02:44] *** nutela2 has quit IRC[22:04:14] *** Hugen_ has left #haiku[22:06:10] *** StreaK|ON has joined #haiku[22:08:37] <alexsuraci> mmu_man: It showed up under the "plain" section, but not monospace[22:08:58] *** raichoo has quit IRC[22:09:04] *** michaelvo has quit IRC[22:09:25] <mmu_man> then it's not a real one[22:09:31] *** zizban has quit IRC[22:09:34] <mmu_man> or the TTF headers are wrong[22:10:23] <alexsuraci> it is monospace, I used to use it all the time and it's built for programming[22:11:45] <MrSunshine_> yey my new reclycle center aquired pc runs haiku like a sharm also! =)[22:11:46] *** Al2O3_ has joined #haiku[22:12:08] *** Barrett has quit IRC[22:12:37] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[22:13:33] *** nutela has quit IRC[22:14:02] <mmu_man> alexsuraci either post on the mailing list or submit a trac ticket with an url to it so it's not forgotten[22:14:16] <mmu_man> but likely it's not really a true monospace or the headers are wrong[22:14:47] <mmu_man> but IIRC we already have some workaround for false monospace ones[22:16:39] *** The123king has left #haiku[22:16:42] *** StreaK|ON has quit IRC[22:17:03] *** Kokito has joined #haiku[22:17:26] <Kokito> hello folks[22:17:26] *** xspager has joined #haiku[22:17:39] *** Al2O3 has quit IRC[22:17:39] *** Al2O3_ is now known as Al2O3[22:17:44] *** cpr420 has joined #haiku[22:18:23] <mmu_man> plop[22:18:30] <Kokito> hey mmu_man[22:18:47] * Kokito is testing the Droid font[22:18:51] <alexsuraci> mmu_man: alright[22:19:28] *** nutela has joined #haiku[22:22:52] *** E-WolfShade has quit IRC[22:31:49] *** Megaf has joined #Haiku[22:33:28] *** ziomatto has quit IRC[22:34:59] *** tqh has quit IRC[22:36:10] *** MrSunshine_ has quit IRC[22:36:39] *** MrSunshine_ has joined #haiku[22:36:58] *** iMax_pp has quit IRC[22:40:53] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[22:41:17] <DaaT> Teknomancer! 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