[00:03:28] <oco> what is missing to serve PXE from Haiku is "just" a DHCP and a TFTP server
[00:05:34] <korli> oco: dhcpd and tftpd :)
[00:06:26] <RandomInsano> PXE booting is still some sort of dark magic to me. I've got a thin client that does it, but I certainly don't understand how to have an OS boot over network
[00:06:48] <RandomInsano> Or more, program one that is able to.
[00:07:22] <kallisti5> hmm... how would you mount the haiku file system over the network?
[00:07:30] <kallisti5> linux can netboot on nfs
[00:07:44] <RandomInsano> Good luck with that one. Haiku has some manner of nfs client doesn't it?
[00:07:51] <oco> RandomInsano : well, First, PXE send a broadcast request to a DHCP server
[00:08:21] <RandomInsano> I can configure my DHCP server to do it, and my laptop can look for and boot said image
[00:08:24] <kallisti5> RandomInsano: yeah, but i dont think it's available in the binary loaded by the boot loader
[00:08:32] <RandomInsano> Mmm...
[00:08:51] <RandomInsano> Does PXE stuff just download the kernel code and jump in somewhere?
[00:08:52] <oco> when weel configured to netboot, there is a special file in the answer packet that indicate the boot file to download from the tftpd server
[00:09:51] <oco> for Haiku, the little remote_disk_server server the disk image.
[00:10:07] <RandomInsano> There is such a think for Haiku? Interesting...
[00:10:10] <RandomInsano> *g
[00:11:02] <oco> for Haiku, PXE download a bootloader and some boo files in an archive
[00:12:05] <RandomInsano> Well, what's the limit here? Could I theoretically just PXE download an entire operating system?
[00:12:28] <kallisti5> you have to have pseudo random access to the filesystem over the network
[00:12:50] <oco> with those files, the kernel can boot. a driver for remote_disk is included, so Haiku can discover and use a partition served by remote_disk_server
[00:12:55] <RandomInsano> Which is where cifs or nfs would come in
[00:13:05] <kallisti5> oco: damn thats sexy
[00:13:24] <RandomInsano> Hmm
[00:13:39] <oco> remote_disk is a very basic protocol that enable random access
[00:13:57] <oco> made by Bonefish
[00:14:48] <RandomInsano> And I'm off
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[00:40:44] <thotypous> plop
[00:40:48] <thotypous> hi
[00:43:12] <mmadia> http://haiku-files.org/  is throwing some mysql warnings.
[00:43:14] <mmadia> hi.
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[00:49:17] <stpere> sems broken :(
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[00:49:21] <stpere> seems*
[00:51:38] <miqlas> mmadi, i downoaded the pre-alpha pakage. Maybe i broke the system? :)
[00:52:04] <miqlas> it works now.
[00:52:51] <miqlas> Only the Home page have problem. You can navigate to Vmware and raw images, and it works
[00:53:38] <mmadia> thats why i said /  and not /raw/  :P
[00:54:57] <stpere> oh well, I had 1 000 000 $ to give to Haiku, but because of this page, I will pass :P
[00:55:31] * mmadia offers his paypal address to stpere
[00:55:48] <miqlas> stpre, give me the money, i can use it.
[00:56:00] <zizban> I can too
[00:56:04] <stpere> :)
[00:56:20] <stpere> sadly, it's in my dream more than in my pockets
[00:56:32] <miqlas> I don't buy limusine, because i hate everyting that works with benzin, or gasoline, and i don't travel to hawaii
[00:56:47] <miqlas> I will test the prealpha pckage
[00:56:55] <miqlas> extracting.
[00:57:21] <miqlas> then go to cli
[00:58:27] <miqlas> Writing the image to flashdrive with flasnul.
[00:59:20] <miqlas> This image is lot of bigger than others.
[00:59:31] <miqlas> I hope it full with gifts.
[00:59:39] <miqlas> Finished.
[00:59:41] <miqlas> Reboot.
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[01:00:38] <zizban> muahaha he doesn't know it comes with our secret "world domination trojan"
[01:00:48] <zizban> Your mind is ours! muahahahaha
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[01:06:54] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Hello Guys!
[01:07:12] <zizban> so you running this in vmware?
[01:07:50] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> No, I always run Haiku on real iron.
[01:08:15] <zizban> good for you!
[01:08:20] <zizban> so how is it?
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[01:08:51] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> From USB it is slow. I need put it to the Haiku partition on my HDD.
[01:09:07] <zizban> ya I net
[01:09:10] <zizban> bet
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[01:10:01] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I hope the real alpha will have in Vision an irc server setting. Like in Senyoru.
[01:11:29] <zizban> Tell the big Haiku cheeses that :)
[01:12:03] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> The BSnow can't delete his replicant from the desktop.
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[01:14:12] <AlienSoldier> look for the handle at the bottom right
[01:14:28] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Cortex don't have child windows. In the menu i see the child-windows is enabled. I disable all of them, and enable again, and it works.
[01:15:17] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Alien Solider, Yeah, i deleted with it. But there is a text in the small window: Click here to delete. The user who don't know anything about the replicant handler will suck it.
[01:15:40] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> And Yeah on first start my monitor did'nt set correctly, then i don't see the replicant handler.
[01:15:56] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> FontDemo don't have childwindow too
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[01:16:18] <mmu_man> miqlas-Haiku-pre submit bugs in trac :p
[01:16:43] <mmu_man> BSnow you should be able to remove from the replicant dragger in the bottom right corner of the desktop
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[01:18:58] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> mmu_man, please try to understand me. I know. But if somebody (who never see BeOS before) don't see the small handler in the corner!!
[01:19:30] <mmu_man> I know the bug, it's been reported already
[01:19:44] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Clock have too small tab, i see only: "C..k"
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[01:22:27] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> The Mail Daemon can't use SSL in default.
[01:23:06] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Antialiasing preferences is very good.
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[01:24:56] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> But that i dont like: there is lot of 1 roh height typebox (like in Keyboard preferences), and the contains can i scroll with mouse (up and down) i think an 1 row height box is NOT scrollable!)
[01:25:22] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Righ-left direction is ok, but up and down?!
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[01:26:32] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Media_server don't start automaticaly. (Emuxki sb live) I need start it manualy).
[01:27:04] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Real time audio and video is not enabled by default. I think this need enabled by default.
[01:27:49] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Menu preferences have too big window.
[01:28:00] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> There is lot of unused place
[01:31:09] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> The print preview window have white background, an on it have lot of gray button. Why it don't have gray background? I think the buttons looks better on gray background.
[01:38:21] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Audio play is not working. I don't know where is the problem.
[01:38:40] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I restarted the media_server, but it not works.
[01:40:13] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> DVD discs not mountable in Haiku
[01:41:09] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> In Icon-O-Matic at start the drawing zone is not centered.
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[01:42:42] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Every application have big startletter, only the pe and the vlc don't have.
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[01:48:23] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Wonderbrush about box is not working.
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[01:52:19] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> There is no link to Installer in the BeMenu.
[01:52:34] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Install work in progress......
[01:54:03] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I like to see SSL login option in the MailDaemon...
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[01:54:25] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Install complete.
[01:54:26] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Reboot.-
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[01:57:10] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Hello
[01:57:34] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> If i have an DVD-R disc in the drive i get KDL.
[01:57:46] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> But only at boot.
[01:59:12] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Can't open the velcome html file with duble click. The firefox starts, but it not load the welcome page.
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[02:55:06] <gireesh> anybody use the pre-alpha vmware image successfully?
[02:55:40] <gireesh> I get an error message that says "it is not a valid vmdk file"
[03:06:40] <umccullough_w> a few have mentioned that :/
[03:07:05] <gireesh> I read your comment on osnews
[03:07:12] <gireesh> am going to try the qemu-img method
[03:07:58] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Yes, i use it.
[03:08:02] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> But on real iron.
[03:08:16] <umccullough_w> gireesh, are you using windows?
[03:08:32] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> gireesh, if Your computer can boot from USB, try this way.
[03:08:32] <gireesh> no linux
[03:08:35] <gireesh> Mandriva 2009
[03:08:36] <umccullough_w> ok
[03:08:58] <umccullough_w> so, i assume you have a tool to unbz2 ;)
[03:09:02] <gireesh> yes
[03:09:07] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> You can install Haiku to Your flashdrive in linux too.
[03:09:34] <gireesh> well well well
[03:09:35] <gireesh> that worked
[03:09:37] <umccullough_w> miqlas-Haiku-pre, the problem is, people are reporting the pre-alpha vmdk might be corrupt
[03:09:54] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Yes, i know, i read the osnews.
[03:10:09] <umccullough_w> ok :) - well it should probably be fixed anyway ;)
[03:10:13] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I think the easyest way is the USB boot.
[03:10:18] <gireesh> would have been nice if the package included a vmx file
[03:10:27] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> It works very well. I use it now.
[03:10:29] <umccullough_w> personally, i think the easiest way is to build it directly to a partition from linux :D
[03:10:48] <umccullough_w> gireesh, the vmx file is available separately there
[03:11:07] <umccullough_w> http://haiku-files.org/ - see where it says .vmx file
[03:11:15] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> ummccullough, maybe it easy for You, but i never try it yet. (Okay, i try 1 time in windows, but i can't install cygwin)
[03:11:53] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> ummccullough, i hope it is not problem, but i write about the pre-alpha to some hungarian newspage.
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[03:11:57] <umccullough_w> using cygwin would take all day anyhow, the time it takes to install linux, install the tools, download the sources, and build haiku would be less ;)
[03:12:03] <gireesh> cool
[03:12:05] <gireesh> working now
[03:12:09] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> :)
[03:12:39] <gireesh> where is netsurf?
[03:12:46] <umccullough_w> not installed by default
[03:12:50] <gireesh> dang!!
[03:12:53] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> ummcullough, The pre-alpha contains an Firefox for Haiku build?
[03:12:54] <umccullough_w> but you can get it
[03:12:57] <gireesh> where can I find a binary?
[03:13:02] <umccullough_w> miqlas-Haiku-pre, not for haiku
[03:13:03] <gireesh> yes Firefox is there
[03:13:09] <umccullough_w> just the 2.0.0.12 re-ordered version for beos
[03:13:21] <umccullough_w> that should be updated to 2.0.0.17 :P
[03:13:22] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Ah, this is very stable
[03:13:34] <umccullough_w> gireesh, need a link for netsurf?
[03:13:35] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Why not 2.0.0.17?
[03:13:38] <gireesh> yes please
[03:13:44] <umccullough_w> miqlas-Haiku-pre, don't ask me ...i have no clue
[03:14:08] <thotypous> tqh said the latest version would require gcc4
[03:14:09] <thotypous> perhaps
[03:14:16] <gireesh> Firefox 3 that is?
[03:14:21] <thotypous> no, latest firefox2
[03:14:29] <umccullough_w> http://revolf.free.fr/beos/netsurf-bone.zip
[03:14:31] <thotypous> perhaps
[03:14:36] <umccullough_w> ff3 doesn't compile for beos/haiku yet
[03:14:41] <umccullough_w> dependencies aren't completely ported
[03:14:45] <umccullough_w> namely, cairo :P
[03:14:50] <xxploit> im curious how Haiku will ever handle top end video, its probably be discussed but I dont keep up much with it and was wondering how they planned to do that since BeOS never really could do it either. Are they assuming that nvidia and ati will open up all there drivers by then or have another approach?
[03:15:00] <Sikosis> hey umccullough_w
[03:15:09] <umccullough_w> xxploit, closed source drivers will work for haiku
[03:15:22] <umccullough_w> it's not GPL
[03:15:38] <thotypous> man, cairo is hackish
[03:15:51] <umccullough_w> hey Sikosis - figure out your build factory yet?
[03:15:59] <xxploit> umccullough_w: how are the closed drivers going to work? Are they going to install the linux versions or what?
[03:16:00] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> ummcullough, whats this lot of header file?
[03:16:02] <umccullough_w> actually, i must leave in a couple mins
[03:16:10] <gireesh> wow that link is slow
[03:16:13] <umccullough_w> xxploit, the hope is that haiku will gain commercial support directly
[03:16:21] <Sikosis> yeh did u take axel's email to mean they replace the existing ones or they're to go along side with the current ones ?
[03:16:22] <umccullough_w> just like linux did, but without the political bullshit
[03:16:41] <umccullough_w> Sikosis, not sure, i'll have to re-read
[03:16:49] <gireesh> umccullough is the link slow or is haiku's network flaky?
[03:16:55] <umccullough_w> possibly both
[03:16:57] <umccullough_w> :)
[03:17:01] <gireesh> ack!!
[03:17:01] <xxploit> umccullough_w: umm do you really see that as likely? BeOS couldnt do it, and hell FreeBSD doesnt even have 64bit drivers from NV
[03:17:08] <Sikosis> ill go with both and see what happens
[03:17:11] <umccullough_w> gireesh, it's just slow
[03:17:17] <umccullough_w> slow here using Chrome
[03:18:04] <umccullough_w> xxploit, do you have a better alternative?
[03:18:42] <umccullough_w> it's a chicken/egg problem, same as any OS
[03:18:54] <umccullough_w> the only solution is to keep moving forward and stop dwelling on it ;)
[03:19:21] <gireesh> isnt AMD opening up some of the specs for the ATI cards?
[03:19:26] <umccullough_w> that's the idea
[03:19:33] <umccullough_w> and intel certainly has
[03:19:38] <gireesh> I prefer NVidia though
[03:19:39] <umccullough_w> nvidia is the one dragging their feet
[03:19:48] <gireesh> better drivers for more platforms
[03:19:53] <xxploit> gireesh: They are but i think its mostly for their integrated chipsets unless im wrong
[03:20:02] <gireesh> xxploit: it is a start
[03:20:16] <gireesh> rome was not built in a day :)
[03:20:17] <umccullough_w> also, i assume you're referring directly to 3d acceleration
[03:20:25] <xxploit> but truthly id imagine they both might be open by the time Haiku is ready
[03:20:36] <gireesh> I doubt NVidia will open up
[03:20:55] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> My SoundBlaster Live card not working under Haiku :(
[03:20:58] <umccullough_w> anyhow, ttyl, must leave now
[03:21:05] <umccullough_w> miqlas-Haiku-pre, mine worked last i tried
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[03:21:37] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Yeah, my card worked last day with an older release, but now it doenst work :(
[03:21:38] <xxploit> gireesh: if ati/amd do, i have no doubt nvidia will follow
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[03:21:50] <judgen> howdy ho
[03:22:21] <gireesh> is rudolf cornellisen (sp?) working on nvidia drivers for beos/haiku?
[03:22:40] <judgen> gireesh on and off afaik, mostly off.
[03:22:46] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Yeah, sometimes i see a commyt by rudolfc.
[03:22:57] <gireesh> man, haiku needs a lightweight browser
[03:22:59] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> commit
[03:23:18] <judgen> gireesh there is webkit somewhat working
[03:23:19] <xxploit> are you guys running alpha builds of haiku now?
[03:23:23] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> gireesh, try NetSurf and Webkit.
[03:23:25] <judgen> yes
[03:23:38] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> xxploit, yeah, me.
[03:23:54] <gireesh> miqlas-Haiku-pre: is the webkit port usable?
[03:23:54] <judgen> xxploit me too, but just not at the moment
[03:23:56] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> But not in emulator. I run it on real hardware
[03:24:03] <judgen> miqlas-Haiku-pre me too
[03:24:06] <gireesh> I thought ryan leavengood was still far off on the build
[03:24:07] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I never tested it.
[03:24:20] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> judgen :)
[03:24:26] <gireesh> xxploit: I am running that build on vmware now
[03:24:44] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I write a small article about the Haiku pre-alpha1 on the Hungarian Unix Poral.
[03:24:45] <gireesh> I presume there is no port of dillo for haiku?
[03:24:49] <judgen> miqlas-Haiku-pre i have working 3d, wireless and all other hardware in the laptop.
[03:24:56] <judgen> gireesh there is links =P
[03:25:01] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> gireesh, You can use Links.
[03:25:09] <gireesh> Links only displays images yeah?
[03:25:23] <judgen> gireesh dillo is less good than netsurf in mostly all ways
[03:25:30] <xxploit> judgen: thats on an integrated intel vid or something correct?
[03:25:38] <gireesh> cant find a build of netsurf yet
[03:25:39] <judgen> xxploit no nvidia geforce4
[03:25:48] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> http://revolf.free.fr/beos/links-beos-bin.zip
[03:26:02] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> gireesh, links show the pictures.
[03:26:20] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> But the text is pictures too
[03:26:51] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> NetSurf: http://revolf.free.fr/beos/netsurf-bone.zip
[03:27:40] <judgen> im going to make myself a wakeup grogg...
[03:27:44] <judgen> 5 day weekend =)
[03:27:57] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Somebody have problem with the download speed?
[03:28:06] <gireesh> miqlas-Haiku-pre: yes
[03:28:13] <gireesh> it is non-existent :)
[03:28:18] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I upload it to my server, ok?
[03:28:29] <gireesh> yes please that would be great
[03:28:59] <judgen> mmm lemon grogg
[03:29:23] <judgen> oh the time is soon 04.. maybe i should go to bed in a few hours
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[03:29:52] <gireesh> miqlas-Haiku-pre: thanks for your help but I got the file
[03:30:26] <gireesh> Netsurf that is
[03:31:19] * judgen is away: Gotta do some important stuff.
[03:31:33] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Upload in progress
[03:31:37] <gireesh> ack!! that is a source file
[03:31:44] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> :)
[03:31:57] <thotypous> the good thing about nvidia is CUDA
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[03:32:11] <gireesh> miqlas-Haiku-pre: only source for haiku?
[03:32:18] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> http://boly.hu/~miqlas/upload/netsurf-bone.zip
[03:32:24] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> This is binary
[03:33:02] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> http://boly.hu/~miqlas/upload/links-beos-bin.zip
[03:33:31] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I hope it will work for You.
[03:34:02] <gireesh> ok let me see
[03:35:10] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I hope it have bigger download speed.
[03:38:13] <gireesh> could not open Netsurf with Netsurf
[03:38:19] <gireesh> (missing library)
[03:38:53] <Guma> how can I convert raw image to VirtualBox?
[03:40:07] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> gireesh open an terminal
[03:40:26] <gireesh> ok
[03:40:28] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> and drag and drop the netsurf to it and press enter
[03:40:29] <gireesh> then?
[03:40:45] <gireesh> the expanded file?
[03:40:47] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> You can see the name of the required libray?
[03:40:52] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> yes
[03:41:14] <gireesh> libjpeg.so
[03:41:32] <gireesh> brb
[03:42:24] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> gireesh, please delete the extracted files. and open the archive again (doubleclick)
[03:42:39] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> The Expand-O-Matic will ask where You want extract the files.
[03:43:04] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> You need select /boot
[03:43:38] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> You need select, if you delete the another directories is not enough.
[03:43:58] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> And extract it. It will put the libs to the required place.
[03:44:12] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> The paths hardcoded in the Netsurf yet.
[03:45:21] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> After it You can easyly run the Netsurf with doubleclick (You can find it in the /boot/apps/netsurf)
[03:45:29] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I tested, it works for me.
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[03:50:24] <Guma> Any one running Haiku in VirtualBox? What OS Type are you using? Does it matter?
[03:51:38] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> gireesh, works?
[03:51:51] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Guma, I'm not.
[03:52:06] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Guma, whats Your problem?
[03:54:31] <Guma> miqlas-Haiku-pre I am just trying to give it a spin.
[03:55:37] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> You have the vmx file for it?
[03:55:39] <Guma> And Since I never did set it up in Virtual Box not sure What OS Type I should be using
[03:55:55] <Guma> I just converted the raw file to vdi
[03:56:08] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Ah, vmx required by vmware, not virtualbox, sorry.
[03:56:14] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I used only vmware.
[03:56:27] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> I think i can't help to You.
[03:56:30] <miqlas-Haiku-pre> Sorry.
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[03:59:39] <Guma> No problem
[03:59:50] <Guma> Thanx for trying
[04:02:35] <Guma> Swwweeeet. I got it working. I just downloaded the latest raw image converted to vdi created 256 MB machine with hardware virtualization enabled and OS Type Unknown. in < 10 sec Haiku is running :)
[04:04:03] <Guma> It is soo fast also. Wow
[04:05:13] <Guma> Is there a "man" on haiku or you sopposed to use something else
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[04:06:11] <gireesh> miqlas-Haiku-pre: that worked thank you
[04:07:46] <DeadYak> Guma: not currently
[04:07:50] <Guma> Looks like there is no network under VirtualBox. just loop interface
[04:08:06] <DeadYak> does vbox emulate different types of eth cards?
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[04:08:37] <Guma> I think it is e1000 Intel
[04:08:52] <Guma> I thing I remember it when I was installing x86 solaris
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[04:08:55] <DeadYak> e1000 is supported, that's the same interface it uses on VMWare
[04:09:20] <Guma> I took Unknown OS type when selected OS type
[04:09:28] <Guma> Perhaps that has something to do with it?
[04:09:45] <DeadYak> dunno, I don't use vbox
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[04:18:26] <gireesh> wow netsurf is quite good
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[04:22:11] <DeadYak> hi luroh
[04:22:13] <DeadYak> still in Hawaii?
[04:22:19] <luroh> heya
[04:22:26] <luroh> ya, still stuck here
[04:22:36] <DeadYak> ah
[04:22:55] <luroh> svn upping and building haiku though :)
[04:23:13] <luroh> (there is no excuse for not building haiku ;)
[04:24:24] <DeadYak> ;)
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[04:42:41] <luroh> still building... i'm curious to see if i'll run into any of the vmware problems people have been reporting on the mailing list
[04:43:13] <DeadYak> dunno, the same people said the latest nightlies worked fine for 'em
[04:43:23] <luroh> ah ok
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[04:52:51] <gireesh> what vmware problem?
[04:53:06] <gireesh> bad vmdk?
[04:54:24] <luroh> i can't say actually, it booted fine here
[04:54:38] <gireesh> the pre-alpha vmdk image did not work for me
[04:54:41] <luroh> http://www.freelists.org/archives/haiku-development/10-2008/msg00343.html
[04:54:43] <gireesh> and a few others
[04:55:05] <gireesh> converting the raw image using qemu-img to vmdk worked fine
[04:55:05] <luroh> oh, perhaps it was just related to that build then
[04:55:10] <luroh> right
[04:55:14] <gireesh> the latest nightly worked fine too
[04:55:31] <luroh> oh ok, good
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[05:16:34] <Kokito> hello
[05:18:03] <luroh> heya Kokito
[05:18:16] <Kokito> hey luroh
[05:18:26] <Kokito> still drinking expensive mineral water? :P
[05:18:47] <luroh> nah, can't afford water :P
[05:19:04] <umccullough> seawater is cheap
[05:19:25] <umccullough> i hear they have free water in the toilets too
[05:20:42] <AlienSoldier> that one is too rich in nitrate
[05:21:23] <Kokito> and sea water is not recommended if you have high blood pressure
[05:21:49] <pyCube> or enjoy the act of drinking water
[05:22:43] <luroh> besides, it's full of seals, surfers and whatnot, you might choke
[05:23:18] <pyCube> to quote an old Surf Punks song... "The ocean's nothing but a fish toilet.."
[05:23:22] <AlienSoldier> just buy a cheap stillsuit and be done with it :)
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[06:59:47] <Begasus> moin
[07:02:00] <Monni> klus
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[07:20:20] <Begasus> g'morgen nielx
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[08:23:56] <Begasus> anyone tried abiword on Haiku lately?
[08:26:01] <umccullough> not i said the umccullough
[08:26:19] <Begasus> ;)
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[11:18:59] <CIA-60> stippi * r28307 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/input/AddOnManager.cpp:
[11:18:59] <CIA-60> * Removed some no longer used testing code.
[11:18:59] <CIA-60> * Fixed unloading the add-on image twice in error case of failing to
[11:18:59] <CIA-60>  add the add-on info to the list.
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[11:19:32] <smooki> hi
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[11:27:12] <smooki> so Alpha is coming !!!!!!???? :D :P :]P]
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[11:52:45] <CIA-60> axeld * r28308 /haiku/trunk/ (headers/posix/dlfcn.h src/system/libroot/posix/dlfcn.c):
[11:52:45] <CIA-60> * Applied patch by Romain Picard: added support for the GNU extension dladdr(),
[11:52:45] <CIA-60>  thanks!
[11:52:45] <CIA-60> * This closes ticket #2818.
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[12:01:08] <CIA-60> axeld * r28309 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/Window.cpp:
[12:01:08] <CIA-60> * r28281 accidently added the B_NORMAL_WINDOW_FEEL (0) to the list of special
[12:01:08] <CIA-60>  feels. This caused floating/modal app and subset windows to not work anymore.
[12:01:08] <CIA-60> * This fixes bug #2914.
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[12:14:36] <CIA-60> axeld * r28310 /haiku/trunk/src/system/runtime_loader/runtime_loader.c: * Workaround for bug #2273 - not pretty but works for now.
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[12:35:40] <CIA-60> axeld * r28311 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/file_systems/bfs/Inode.cpp:
[12:35:40] <CIA-60> * Fixed bug #2727: symlinks usually "abuse" the data stream part of a
[12:35:40] <CIA-60>  bfs_inode to store the link path (up to a certain length). If this was long
[12:35:40] <CIA-60>  enough to clobber the data_stream::size field (which luckily was the last
[12:35:41] <CIA-60>  field of struct data_stream), Inode::Free() would mistakenly assume this to
[12:35:44] <CIA-60>  be a valid data stream to be freed.
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[13:13:47] <CIA-60> axeld * r28312 /haiku/trunk/src/tools/vmdkimage/vmdkimage.cpp:
[13:13:47] <CIA-60> * Enlarged the arbitrary maximum image size to 4 GB which still works just
[13:13:47] <CIA-60>  fine.
[13:13:47] <CIA-60> * Minor cleanup.
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[13:36:47] <miqlas> Good morning.
[13:38:36] <Monni> it's past noon already ;)
[13:39:16] <miqlas> I found lot of small bugs in Haiku pre-alpha
[13:39:30] <Monni> isn't that expected ;)
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[13:49:42] <CIA-60> aldeck * r28313 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/keymap/ (KeymapWindow.cpp KeymapWindow.h): (log message trimmed)
[13:49:42] <CIA-60> Few fixes to the keymap preflet to make it good enough for the alpha 1. Lots of
[13:49:42] <CIA-60> things could be rewritten in a cleaner way but i'd rather finish my keymap
[13:49:42] <CIA-60> management patch as i rewrote the preflet for it anyway. For example the '(Current)'
[13:49:42] <CIA-60> item shouldn't be needed anymore but is still there in case the keymap:name attribute
[13:49:46] <CIA-60> read fails or if the original keymap file doesn't exist anymore (for example, applying
[13:49:48] <CIA-60> a user keymap, quiting the preflet, deleting the keymap file, and reloading the
[13:59:30] <miqlas> Wich virtual NIC working with haiku in VirtualBox?
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[14:10:22] <Teknomancer> e1000
[14:11:31] <miqlas> Thanks, Teknomancer!
[14:11:46] <Teknomancer> np
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[14:16:16] <helf> morning
[14:16:51] <Teknomancer> hi helf
[14:17:16] <helf> morning, tek. how's things?
[14:17:55] * JonathanThompson poits both Teknomancer and helf
[14:17:58] <Teknomancer> fine, we just released 2.0.4
[14:18:09] <Teknomancer> so a small bit of relief
[14:18:27] <Teknomancer> until the next bug reports pour in ;)
[14:18:41] <JonathanThompson> The version of what my group at work is working on is only 24 days late thus far ;)
[14:19:08] <helf> :)
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[14:19:20] <JonathanThompson> I've never seen a version be this late before: I think all the code debt is catching up with a vengeance :P
[14:19:51] <Teknomancer> hah
[14:19:52] <helf> god
[14:19:58] <helf> i cant fucking wait until these elections are over :P
[14:20:01] <JonathanThompson> That, combined with stupid "Schedule-driven" policies of setting an arbitrary date.
[14:20:16] <Teknomancer> US elections are very confusing
[14:20:23] <Teknomancer> they last for 6 months?
[14:20:36] <Teknomancer> it seems to be never ending
[14:20:39] <JonathanThompson> The campaigning lasts for much longer than that.
[14:20:48] <Teknomancer> and suddenly some new guy McCain comes out of nowhere, ugh.
[14:21:03] <JonathanThompson> Part of that is that the federal terms are at least 4 years, so they make it worth their while.
[14:21:12] <JonathanThompson> McCain isn't "A new guy"
[14:21:18] <Teknomancer> new to me
[14:21:31] <JonathanThompson> He's a rather experienced politician, for all that means, and he's far from being new ;)
[14:21:33] <Teknomancer> well everyone in the US elections would be new to me, but oh well,
[14:21:40] <helf> uh
[14:21:42] <Teknomancer> never heard of Obama before
[14:21:49] <Teknomancer> Osama, yes :)
[14:21:51] <helf> McCain has bbeen in the running forl ike 1.5years
[14:22:04] <JonathanThompson> Obama is just a young pup.
[14:22:06] <Teknomancer> running where I can't see him obviously
[14:22:09] <helf> Obama is our token black guy running for election
[14:22:12] <Teknomancer> JonathanThompson: he looks old
[14:22:28] <JonathanThompson> He's actually our token mixed-heritage guy: even more odd ;)
[14:22:32] <helf> :P
[14:22:44] <helf> I'm sick of people telling me why they are voting for whoever
[14:22:46] <helf> I don't care
[14:22:54] <helf> Your stupid opinion won't sway me
[14:22:56] <helf> stop trying
[14:22:58] <helf> bitches
[14:23:03] <JonathanThompson> Teknomancer: the constitution requires that a US president must be at least 35 years old, so he's a young candidate ;)
[14:23:17] <Teknomancer> 35 is old
[14:23:22] * JonathanThompson could run for president
[14:23:32] * Teknomancer can run, but not for president yet
[14:23:35] <helf> What i love are the people that honestly think one of the other will lead to "change". (they never specify what change). yeah, RIGHT. they are politicians.
[14:23:43] <helf> not some benevolent good doer
[14:23:47] * JonathanThompson is clearly old, then
[14:24:04] <JonathanThompson> And I can still run, even not for president ;)
[14:24:09] <helf> :P
[14:24:25] <helf> McCain is pretty lively for being like 71
[14:24:33] <Teknomancer> If I'm present I will make laws to make Microsoft and Windows production and usage illegal
[14:24:37] <JonathanThompson> Frankly, I have to wonder about the motivations of all people running for president ;)
[14:24:47] <Teknomancer> 71?  he's almost half as old as the Indian prime minister
[14:25:04] <JonathanThompson> Well, Teknomancer, at least you don't stand a chance in hell of ever being US president ;)
[14:25:10] <Teknomancer> haha
[14:25:23] <mmu_man> what do you think fake passports are for ? :p
[14:25:28] <JonathanThompson> IIRC being foreign-born excludes you right there, outside of age.
[14:25:33] <helf> yeah
[14:25:46] <helf> thats wy the terminator cant run for president
[14:25:47] <JonathanThompson> To which one, helf ? :)
[14:26:05] <JonathanThompson> What, because Terminator is -10 years old? :D
[14:26:09] <helf> Ronald Reagan has been the oldest president elect, thus far.
[14:26:12] <helf> At 69
[14:26:21] <helf> lol JonathanThompson
[14:26:51] <JonathanThompson> Imagine if time machines are known about and invented, what that'll do to such issues ;)
[14:26:54] <helf> You really have to wonder about people that /want/ to be president
[14:27:15] <JonathanThompson> I recently read a sci-fi book that addressed that whole issue.
[14:27:41] <JonathanThompson> A computer program chose people that were most qualified, and one of the qualifications is that they didn't necessarily WANT to be president ;)
[14:27:50] <JonathanThompson> This is on a planet post-earth.
[14:27:58] <Teknomancer> Terminator 2 was good movie.
[14:28:00] <helf> awesome
[14:28:06] <helf> JonathanThompson, what book? :)
[14:28:08] <helf> i wanna read it
[14:28:24] * JonathanThompson goes to check if it's one he's got laying on his dining room table
[14:29:29] <helf> some guy called BeOSs GUI an insult to linux in reply to my comment on linux being an insult to beos to use as a base
[14:29:38] <helf> guess who got modded way up and way down? :P
[14:31:03] <JonathanThompson> Darn it, I'll have to get back to you on that one, helf: I'm not sure if it is buried in an Orson Scott Card anthology, or a separate book, but I think the latter, and I can't remember the title, and my place is too much of a mess to find it readily :P
[14:31:53] <helf> ok :)
[14:32:01] <helf> i have the collected works of card
[14:32:06] <helf> ive not read through the whole thing, though
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[15:16:03] <CIA-60> aldeck * r28314 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/keymap/KeymapWindow.cpp:
[15:16:03] <CIA-60> * Removed the enclosing box to gain some space and enlarged the listviews. Should be
[15:16:03] <CIA-60> rethought and reimplemented with the layout system and my keymap management patch, but
[15:16:03] <CIA-60> the intent was to make it more usable in the mean time.
[15:16:03] <CIA-60> * Don't change the focus on keydown so that we can naviguate the list with the
[15:16:06] <CIA-60> keyboard.
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[15:42:30] <rizsi> Hi! I have just heard about Haiku and wanted to try it. I have downloaded the image and booted it using virtualbox. I like what I saw. The only problem is that it does not handle the virtual Ethernet card that virtualbox offers. They are: PCnet-FAST III (NAT) and PCnet-PCI II (NAT)
[15:43:02] <rizsi> Do you have any suggestion how to get it work?
[15:43:26] <miqlas> Hello rizsi
[15:43:54] <miqlas> Now downloadable the new alpha: http://haiku-files.org/raw/haiku-alpha-r28303-image.zip
[15:44:08] <miqlas> And: http://haiku-files.org/vm/haiku-alpha-r28303-vm.zip
[15:44:37] <DeadYak> that's probably what he's trying already....
[15:45:01] <DeadYak> VBox supports no other ethernet chipset emulation?
[15:46:52] <rizsi> On its GUi it does not show anything else. It is: Sun xVM VirtualBox Graphical User Interface 2.0.2_OSE
[15:47:12] <miqlas> Bye Guys!
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[15:47:40] <DeadYak> hmm
[15:48:04] <DeadYak> I don't really deal with vbox here much unfortunately so I'm not sure what else to tell you there...it works fine with VMWare's e1000 interface though
[15:48:06] <HeTo> it's.. alpha? without a pre-prefix?
[15:48:06] <rizsi> It is an Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid. How could I make VBox and Haiku work or what virtualization should I use instead of virtualbox?
[15:48:25] <Teknomancer> VBox supports e1000g and amd pcnet
[15:48:29] <Teknomancer> and 2.0.4 is out
[15:48:37] * JonathanThompson almost thinkgs HeTo is stuttering while typing again
[15:48:45] <Teknomancer> rizsi: I think OSE not, you need the PUEL version
[15:48:47] <DeadYak> HeTo: I think Phil misnamed that in the build factory
[15:50:02] <HeTo> JonathanThompson: I think you're thinking of helf now
[15:50:20] <rizsi> Teknomancer - So you suggest that I should download the latest VirtualBox PUEL and set Network interface chipset to e1000g and it will work?
[15:50:26] <JonathanThompson> I think you're thinking I'm thinking of helf now ;)
[15:51:00] * JonathanThompson loves the sound of brains asploding in the morning over the net
[15:51:14] <JonathanThompson> I'll have to try harder, though: that one's a low-blow.
[15:51:14] <Teknomancer> rizsi: yes
[15:51:25] <HeTo> what's the difference between those two images and the rest of them?
[15:51:48] <HeTo> since those two are 80-90 MB in size and the rest are ~30 MB
[15:52:45] <DeadYak> HeTo: they include a lot more stuff such as dev tools and so forth
[15:52:56] <DeadYak> HeTo: basically they include everything we intend to include in an actual alpha release
[15:53:31] <Teknomancer> and firefox
[15:53:37] <Teknomancer> :)
[15:53:43] <DeadYak> that would fall under "and so forth" :P
[15:53:53] <Teknomancer> ah okay
[15:54:07] <smooki> does blender run on lastest haiku releases ?
[15:54:16] <rizsi> Thanks for your help! I am going to try it.
[15:54:19] <Teknomancer> this Senryu package included Beezer, even though it has a stupid bug that crashes beezer each time you open an archive
[15:54:22] <Teknomancer> wonder why it was even included
[15:54:26] <Teknomancer> i must fix it :/
[15:54:34] <Teknomancer> rizsi: for VBox related queries, join #vbox
[15:54:45] <DeadYak> Karl includes a ton of stuff without testing it particularly well
[15:55:20] <Teknomancer> looks like.
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[16:36:59] <Dane_> mmu_man What's new with you?
[16:37:18] <mmu_man> not much, had a cold all through BG :('
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[16:40:08] <mmu_man> damn, still didn't write this letter to complain to SNCF
[16:41:07] <DeadYak> SNCF?
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[16:42:36] <rizsi> Haiku works fine on virtualBoc PUEL 2.0.4. with e1000 driver. Thanks for help! Bye!
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[16:46:04] <Dane_> mmu_man bummer
[16:46:17] <Dane_> How'd Begeistert go, mmu_man (other than the cold)?
[16:46:28] <mmu_man> very productive nevertheless
[16:47:35] <DeadYak> Dane_: http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/stippi/2008-10-21/coding_sprint_results
[16:47:59] <Dane_> DeadYak tx
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[17:14:59] <helf> damnit
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[17:15:49] <helf> primary seeder disappeared and only 81% is available from peers...
[17:17:04] <DeadYak> of?
[17:19:05] <helf> some computer videos
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[17:23:10] <tqh> plop
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[17:24:11] <mmu_man> re
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[17:32:57] <leszek> hi
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[18:35:23] <kallisti5> question, has anyone thought of contacting FreeScale and asking permission to distrubute CodeWarrior binaries as freeware?
[18:35:40] <kallisti5> Lots of Be apps have only proj files to compile the sources
[18:36:42] <mmu_man> FreeScale ? they own MW now ?
[18:36:44] <mmu_man> didn't know that
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[18:36:51] <mmu_man> well for one .proj sux
[18:37:09] <mmu_man> they aren't scalable, must have a different one for ppc
[18:37:18] <mmu_man> and aren't documented
[18:37:29] <mmu_man> but IIRC someone reverse engineered the format some tiem ago
[18:37:43] <mmu_man> si it's possible to write soemthing to reuse them
[18:37:54] <mmu_man> appart from that Pe works fine as BeIDE replacement
[18:38:02] <kallisti5> oh, i completely agree
[18:38:17] <kallisti5> but lots of Be apps only were distrubuted with .proj and not makefiles
[18:38:34] <kallisti5> did CW have an option to generate a makefile?
[18:38:49] <Teknomancer> i don't think it generated makefiles
[18:39:11] <kallisti5> poo
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[18:39:38] <kallisti5> thats a bug in haiku... i want to be a programmer AND lazy
[18:40:00] <mmu_man> it's not laziness, it's stupidity
[18:40:08] <kallisti5> :'(
[18:40:18] <mmu_man> with the BeOS makefile engine it's even simpler to use makefiles
[18:40:22] <mmu_man> 3 lines to write
[18:40:34] <mmu_man> and with Pe worksheets it works the same as in BeIDF
[18:40:41] <mmu_man> Alt-Enter builds the thing
[18:40:47] <Teknomancer> MakeMe in zeta generates makefiles ;)
[18:40:56] <DeadYak> reminds me, I need to see how well Eddie runs in Haiku these days
[18:40:57] <mmu_man> and you have a list of errors you can click to go to the offending line
[18:41:14] <mmu_man> I should write something about it
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[19:36:31] <AlienSoldier> wow, a new bpdf, i was not expecting this :)
[19:36:45] <AlienSoldier> *BePDF
[19:36:54] <MindChild> Yeah, its like the old BePDF, but newer
[19:39:18] <MindChild> If you have a shitty controller, just start randomly seeking/writing/reading to a 12GB file
[19:39:24] <MindChild> that will emulate latency well
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[20:37:40] <kallisti5> question: if I wanted to get back into BeOS/Haiku application development what is the recommended development environment?
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[20:38:10] <kallisti5> Haiku seems too alpha to code programs on, BeOS is too old to run on any semi-modern hardware, zeta is no more, etc
[20:38:48] <DeadYak> coding on Haiku works fine for me
[20:39:18] <mmu_man> zeta works fine for me :p
[20:39:55] <kallisti5> yeah, i was running zeta but i upgraded to 1.51 and it freaked out and would not boot
[20:40:35] <kallisti5> haven't reinstalled since :P
[20:41:56] <mmu_man> 1.2+custom stuff here
[20:41:58] <mmu_man> works fine
[20:45:38] <Andre_Radio> Hmmm... I've never had problems with the 1.51 update
[20:49:02] <AlienSoldier> DeadYak do you use BeIDE?
[20:49:09] <DeadYak> hell no
[20:49:24] <AlienSoldier> would it work?
[20:49:32] <DeadYak> it would but it sucks :P
[20:49:57] <mmu_man> Pe is really nicer anyway
[20:50:01] <mmu_man> even I switched to it
[20:50:13] <mmu_man> (after making a french key mapping)
[20:50:31] <AlienSoldier> i always wanted to switch to PE but ever pushed it in the future
[20:50:50] <mmu_man> AlienSoldier you really want to check the svn version
[20:51:25] <mmu_man> and add Alt-Opt-H to the BeHappy extension :)
[20:51:31] <AlienSoldier> svn version as in latest one or one that integrate svn?
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[20:52:34] <Duggan> greetings all
[20:52:52] <Duggan> hey helf, sorry about that, I forgot how much the network sucks here
[20:52:56] <AlienSoldier> i'm yet to seriously remuse coding anyway, i have to kill 2 or 3 major activity of mine to allow for time, it's killing me to choose
[20:53:03] <AlienSoldier> *resume
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[20:56:17] <AlienSoldier> one thing i hate about pe is that it's useless to try to find it with search :)
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[22:25:17] <kallisti5> has anyone else seen and fallen in love with these logic things?
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[22:25:30] <kallisti5> http://saleae.com/
[22:26:31] <kallisti5> kick ass 8 input Logic analyzer a little bigger then a quarter wrapped in black laser etched aluminum.  With linux + mac support coming soon
[22:27:45] * kallisti5 asked his girl for one for christmas and she rolled her eyes and said it was too geeky for a gift :'(
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[22:35:41] <CIA-60> stippi * r28315 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/input_server/devices/wacom/MasterServerDevice.cpp:
[22:35:41] <CIA-60> Don't skip over device items when re-scanning the watched folders for the
[22:35:41] <CIA-60> devices that were removed. Should use the BPathMonitor anyways...
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[22:45:47] <CIA-60> laplace * r28316 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/bootman/LegacyBootDrive.cpp: Show size of partition. This should work even if the FS module is not on the image..
[22:47:59] <Ingenu> night
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[23:02:09] <Begasus> evening peeps
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[23:02:44] <tombhadAC> evening Begasus
[23:02:58] <Monni> evening Begasus
[23:03:07] <Begasus> ;)
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[23:05:48] <Monni> long time no sea...
[23:06:24] <Begasus> it hasn't been a day yet :P
[23:06:39] <Monni> you sure about that...
[23:06:52] <MindChild> "sea" indeed
[23:07:18] <Monni> same word, different language ;)
[23:07:37] <Begasus> Monni, ... '07:03 klus' :P
[23:08:45] <Monni> Begasus: Yeah... but it's 0:09 now
[23:09:13] <Begasus> 23:09 here :P
[23:09:41] <Monni> I don't live Belgian time ;)
[23:10:12] <Monni> I think it's West Frisian where "see" means "sea" ;)
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[23:27:19] <CIA-60> stippi * r28317 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/input/AddOnManager.cpp:
[23:27:19] <CIA-60> * The way subdirectories for the input_server add-ons were defined was a bit
[23:27:19] <CIA-60>  weird.
[23:27:19] <CIA-60> * Set fHandler to NULL in _UnregisterAddOns(), just in case it is called
[23:27:19] <CIA-60>  twice (which it probably never is... but be defensive).
[23:27:23] <CIA-60> * If a B_NODE_MONITOR message does not contain all the necessary fields,
[23:27:25] <CIA-60>  drop into the debugger when compiling in DEBUG mode.
[23:27:44] <Begasus> kangaroo!!
[23:27:49] <Monni> lol
[23:28:20] <Begasus> see .. don't even have to mention a name :P
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[23:28:32] <CIA-60> stippi * r28318 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/input/MethodReplicant.cpp:
[23:28:32] <CIA-60> * Updated the license header.
[23:28:32] <CIA-60> * Use new(nothrow) to allocate the MethodReplicant.
[23:28:32] <CIA-60> * fSignature needs to be free()d, not deleted.
[23:29:38] <Begasus> ps .. I'm going into dbg when I boot Haiku on this laptop (input server probs ... think it's something with the mouse/keyboard/touchpad thing ... not sure though)
[23:29:55] <Duggan> greetings all
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[23:30:32] <DeadYak> Begasus: stippi's working on that one right now
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[23:30:48] <Begasus> ah k .. great DeadYak !
[23:30:52] <Duggan> I get that sometimes
[23:30:57] <Duggan> I always kdl on boot though
[23:31:30] <Begasus> it can be killed (the input server thing)
[23:31:40] <Duggan> ah
[23:31:53] <Begasus> just type 'kill'
[23:32:01] <Begasus> and y when prompted for ;)
[23:32:05] <Duggan> oh another thing with this laptop... it has a button to enable/disable the touchpad, if you disable the touchpad in Haiku, I KDL
[23:32:24] <Begasus> probly not implemented yet ...
[23:32:24] <Duggan> probably known, but just thought I'd mention it
[23:32:33] <Duggan> I just continue and it works fine
[23:32:43] <CIA-60> stippi * r28319 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/input/ (InputServer.cpp InputServer.h): (log message trimmed)
[23:32:43] <CIA-60> * InputDeviceListItem::fDevice was not maintaining it's own memory for the
[23:32:43] <CIA-60>  device path, but instead pointing to memory owned by some device addon
[23:32:43] <CIA-60>  instance.
[23:32:43] <CIA-60> * Added TODO in the AddOnManager init code about a possible race condition
[23:32:44] <CIA-60>  which I have not varified yet.
[23:32:48] <CIA-60> * Check the return code of BList::RemoveItem() before deleting the item...
[23:32:48] <Duggan> it = haiku... I disable the tochpad when I use the mouse
[23:33:11] <CIA-60> stippi * r28320 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/input_server/devices/keyboard/Keymap.cpp: Small coding style correction.
[23:33:45] <Monni> I like one of my bug reports.... Haiku didn't KDL when I stuffed screw driver in USB port ;)
[23:34:09] <Begasus> DeadYak, do you know if anyone is still working on AbiWord?
[23:34:26] <Begasus> would like to see that one up and running on Haiku ;)
[23:34:35] <Begasus> like/love ...
[23:34:45] <Duggan> lol
[23:34:56] <mmu_man> "I unsocked one of the cpus and it still works" :)
[23:35:10] <mmu_man> actually with Multics it would have been possible :p
[23:35:36] <Monni> well... scary part of that was that it did actually KDL quite a while after that...
[23:35:45] <Duggan> lol
[23:36:20] <Monni> didn't like reconnecting device to same port without rebooting ;)
[23:36:41] <mmu_man> "PANIC: hey, what are you doing to me !? ugh oh... can you do that again please ?"
[23:37:01] <Begasus> .... mount /dev/screwdriver /mnt ... ?!? ^^
[23:37:21] <Begasus> or you didn't unmount the screwdriver? :P
[23:38:15] <Begasus> on that note .. your screw driver uses bfs Monni ?
[23:38:15] <Monni> or the funny bug when it did actually try to eject my cell phone... but luckily the ioctl wasn't implemented yet back then ;)
[23:39:02] <mmu_man> btw I get input_server in debugger when switching input methods IIRC
[23:39:08] <mmu_man> maybe it doesn't like T9
[23:39:28] <dr_evil> I plugged a USB stick in a girlfriends computer, and it did shutdown
[23:39:36] <Monni> Begasus: I think it's just transparent device with no filesystem ;)
[23:39:51] <dr_evil> because there was a short circuit in the usb port
[23:40:41] <Begasus> well atleast the hw prob came out dr_evil ;)
[23:40:45] <Monni> my inhell Mac did try to boot from my cellphone a few times... had to make sure usb mass destruction was disabled...
[23:43:10] <DeadYak> Begasus: what happens with AbiWord?
[23:43:25] <Begasus> I don't know DeadYak .. that's why I'm asking ;)
[23:43:42] <DeadYak> Begasus: oh wait
[23:43:52] <DeadYak> Begasus: I thought you meant with respect to running the R5 version in Haiku
[23:44:29] <Begasus> I beleive I've read somethings that there were probs with the latest Haiku builds (or earlier)
[23:45:36] <CIA-60> stippi * r28321 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/input_server/devices/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[23:45:36] <CIA-60> * Ignore B_ENTRY_REMOVED node monitor messages.
[23:45:36] <CIA-60> * When the device watcher/control thread encounteres an error when
[23:45:36] <CIA-60>  read()ing or ioctl()ing the device, don't just quit the thread and
[23:45:36] <CIA-60>  leave a stale device add-on hanging there, but instead trigger
[23:45:37] <CIA-60>  _RemoveDevice() to exit this cleanly. This also takes care of calling
[23:45:41] <CIA-60>  _RemoveDevice() only from one thread. However, it adds a race condition
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[23:47:04] <mmu_man> ROTFL, I didn't know this smiley
[23:47:04] <mmu_man> http://www.pcinpact.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/francais2.gif
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[23:48:50] <Begasus> :P
[23:50:17] <DeadYak> Begasus: 28321 should fix that input_server problem
[23:50:44] <Begasus> grabbing ...
[23:51:01] <ablyss> ...
[23:51:15] <DeadYak> ...
[23:51:21] <Begasus> ._.
[23:51:44] <DeadYak> mmu_man: ahaha
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