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[00:05:01] <Begasus> slaad, !
[00:05:33] <slaad> Begasus.
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[00:09:45] <CIA-5> axeld * r27983 /haiku/trunk/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
[00:09:45] <CIA-5> * Actually implemented the SO_BINDTODEVICE socket option I added some time ago.
[00:09:45] <CIA-5> * This makes it possible to select a specific device, even if no interface
[00:09:45] <CIA-5>  has been configured for it yet. To make it work, each interface now has a
[00:09:45] <CIA-5>  private direct route which will be returned if a socket is bound to a device.
[00:09:47] <CIA-5> * This will be used for example in DHCP to make it work when more than one
[00:09:49] <CIA-5>  adapter is attached.
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[00:37:00] <DaaT> slaad!
[00:38:10] <slaad> DaaT!
[00:38:19] <DaaT> how's it going down under?
[00:38:22] <slaad> You dirty Spaniard!
[00:38:25] <slaad> Going well.
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[00:38:56] <slaad> And now... going to make coffee.
[00:39:14] <DaaT> spaniard?
[00:39:17] * DaaT slaps slaad
[00:41:02] <DaaT> you silly kiwi
[00:43:00] <pyCube> spain, portugal.. whatever..
[00:43:05] <pyCube> same difference.. :-p
[00:44:34] <slaad> Exactly!
[00:44:43] <slaad> You're like... Spain Junior or something ;)
[00:45:04] <DaaT> pppphhhhhtttttttttt
[00:45:11] * DaaT slaps pyCube as well
[00:45:13] <pyCube> like robin is to batman
[00:45:50] <CIA-5> axeld * r27984 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/stack/datalink.cpp:
[00:45:50] <CIA-5> * datalink_send_datagram() can be called with a NULL protocol which I missed
[00:45:50] <CIA-5>  with the last commit.
[00:46:10] <pyCube> portugal is pretty good at having earthquakes destroy its capital
[00:46:50] * pyCube gets all historical
[00:46:51] <DaaT> you're a little behind times
[00:46:54] <pyCube> hehe
[00:46:57] <DaaT> over 200 years behind :P
[00:48:07] * slaad chuckles
[00:48:21] <pyCube> portugal is like a big andorra
[00:48:41] <pyCube> heh
[00:48:56] <pyCube> this is fun for some reason.. never really done any portugal bashing
[00:49:10] <DaaT> yay :)
[00:49:27] <pyCube> its fun mostly because there really isnt much to go on
[00:50:10] <DaaT> :)
[00:50:15] <pyCube> i suppose i could get all anti-colonial power.. but then i'd have to bash spain and england as well
[00:50:23] <pyCube> ..among others
[00:50:39] <pyCube> stupid macao
[00:51:33] <DaaT> *g*
[00:51:38] <pyCube> down with portuguese cork!
[00:51:42] <DaaT> lol
[00:51:55] <DaaT> you've used it I'm sure, so don't be a hypocrit!
[00:52:08] <pyCube> sardines are lame!
[00:52:25] <pyCube> hehe
[00:52:31] <DaaT> :P
[00:52:37] <DaaT> i don't like them either, so agreed
[00:53:12] <ddew|bofh> oh yay, i'd fogotten how painfully slow compiling on haiku in vmware is
[00:53:36] <ddew|bofh> 50 minutes and i'm already at 1800th target :P
[00:53:48] <quittt> someone here used eComStation?
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[01:02:53] <Begasus> nope .. but I've seen it in action a few years back ...
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[01:25:42] <CIA-5> korli * r27985 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/soundrecorder/RecorderWindow.cpp: SoundRecorder window is now not zoomable
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[01:33:10] <CIA-5> stippi * r27986 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/mediaplayer/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
[01:33:10] <CIA-5> Remember the last used file panel folder. Also remember the folder even
[01:33:10] <CIA-5> if the user cancled the file panel. Some improvements to the SettingsMessage
[01:33:10] <CIA-5> and some more helpful comments here and there.
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[01:34:57] <slaad> Eeep!
[01:35:20] <DeadYak> get a chance to look at the MSN thing?
[01:35:48] <mmadia> judgen + myself had msn issues as well.
[01:35:59] <DeadYak> yeah, that's why I asked
[01:36:11] <mmadia> danke : )
[01:36:29] <DeadYak> seems they might've disabled support for the older proto rev that IM kit uses
[01:37:26] <geist> those dickwads
[01:37:32] <geist> they act like they own the protocol or something
[01:37:35] <DeadYak> haha
[01:37:48] <DeadYak> how's it going geist?
[01:38:01] <DeadYak> and did you grab megaman? :)
[01:38:08] <geist> oooh no. I didn't
[01:38:18] <geist> should get some playing in before LBP and rockband 2
[01:38:37] <DeadYak> LBP's out? thought it was still beta
[01:38:45] <geist> no, will be though
[01:38:48] <DeadYak> ah
[01:38:53] <geist> need to play some megaman before it comes out
[01:38:57] <geist> because after that...
[01:39:02] <DeadYak> ahh
[01:39:14] <geist> LBP is so pretty looking it makes me cry
[01:39:18] <DeadYak> did you see that crazy guy that replicated Babbage's Difference Engine in it?
[01:39:41] <geist> it finally makes the jump over the uncanny valley and right into OMG it looks amazing
[01:40:17] <DeadYak> LBP? how so, it doesn't try to depict realistic people?
[01:40:41] <geist> oh go with it...
[01:40:56] <geist> figured you'd say that
[01:41:13] <DeadYak> just saying, I thought the uncanny valley mostly had to do with models of people
[01:41:18] <geist> it does...
[01:41:35] <geist> though since LBP is trying to model little physical objects
[01:41:47] <geist> and it does them so well, it pretty much falls into it for me at least
[01:42:04] <geist> but i'm sick of explaining it. you're like the 3rd person that brought up that *technically* uncanny valley is for people
[01:42:07] <geist> yea yeah i know
[01:42:32] <DeadYak> well, you're going to run into that if you're using it in a way that doesn't make sense based off what it usually means :)
[01:42:39] <geist> but it does!
[01:42:49] <geist> just apply it to non people and it still has basis
[01:43:03] <geist> rendering a truck that doesn't look quite right
[01:43:10] <geist> or a house, or fire, or whatever
[01:43:16] <geist> it doesn't creep you out like people do
[01:43:21] <DeadYak> right, that's why
[01:43:30] <geist> but it has the same effect
[01:43:31] <mmu_laptop> SDL initialization failed: Found no sufficiently capable X11 visuals
[01:43:35] 
[01:43:41] <geist> well maybe not
[01:43:49] <mmu_laptop> can't use ARAnyM from a server through ssh
[01:43:51] <DeadYak> yeah but the creeping out is the whole point of the uncanny valley :)
[01:43:55] <geist> there's just no handy phrase to describe OMG LBP LOOKS AMAZING
[01:45:27] <DeadYak> I guess I just don't really get it, I have yet to see what makes that game so awesome other than the neat user creation tools
[01:45:35] <DeadYak> graphics/sound wise it hasn't really blown me away
[01:45:42] <geist> OMG YOU DIE
[01:45:52] <DeadYak> ha
[01:46:04] <DeadYak> maybe it's just because everybody and their brother's been hyping it up for like the past year
[01:46:10] <geist> fair enough
[01:46:18] <DeadYak> I just don't really see it as ZOMG GAME FROM GOD
[01:46:18] <geist> the penny arcade guys had a few things to say abou tit too
[01:46:35] <geist> basically OMG
[01:46:39] <DeadYak> saw
[01:46:47] <geist> and if they say that, usually it's for reals
[01:47:01] <DeadYak> I dunno, they like plenty of games that I hate :)
[01:47:31] <geist> i fart in your general direction
[01:47:38] <DeadYak> they're usually on the mark, but I don't always find myself agreeing with them
[01:47:56] <geist> well, i did think everyone hyped up Spore too much
[01:48:03] <geist> played through it a few times and it's okay
[01:48:07] <DeadYak> including Will Wright :P
[01:48:12] <geist> has too many game play issues to make it be the best evar
[01:48:14] <Rakhun> formatting a drive to Be FS in DriveSetup causes a kernel panic for me :/
[01:48:20] <geist> and some of the stages are a lot more fun than others
[01:48:47] <geist> andi  thought you'd have to deal wit earlier decisions more, but you really dont
[01:48:55] <geist> you can more or less change everything whenever you want to
[01:49:04] <geist> i was hoping for more strategy on that front
[01:49:11] <DeadYak> it seemed like the middle few stages were really half-baked to me
[01:49:27] <DeadYak> and the last stage has *way* too much nagging with "Oh noes, planet X is in trouble!"
[01:49:34] <geist> yeah, screw those guys
[01:49:42] <geist> they can get a spaceship if they save their money
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[01:49:54] <DeadYak> you can't get anything done if you actually pay attention to all of 'em
[01:50:10] <geist> yeah, that got old pretty quick. never actually finished it
[01:50:12] <DeadYak> but yeah, I was thinking you'd have to make changes incrementally as you evolved too
[01:50:20] <DeadYak> so that was kinda disappointing
[01:50:31] <geist> I played through half the space one trying to be nice to everyone, and the other time trying to kill everything
[01:50:36] <geist> the combat one is *hard*
[01:50:53] <geist> and being nice to everyone basically involves running a bunch of missions, I guess
[01:51:11] * DeadYak nods
[01:51:12] <geist> but in the earlier levels, just killing everything is much easier
[01:51:27] <geist> tryign to play the social version of stage2 is mostly annoying
[01:51:28] <DeadYak> but yeah, that game needed a bit more playtesting/tuning
[01:51:35] <DeadYak> s/a bit/a lot/
[01:51:48] <geist> though later on i figured out about how having a possee helps your social stuff
[01:51:52] <geist> then it got a lot easier
[01:52:10] <geist> guess it makes sense, but i didn't notice it the first time
[01:52:27] * DeadYak nods
[01:52:34] <DeadYak> right now I'm kinda looking forward to messing with World of Goo here
[01:52:53] <geist> i'm trying to buckle down and get my 68 char to 70 on wow, in prep for the new expansion
[01:53:01] <DeadYak> ah, didn't know you played
[01:53:13] <geist> oh yeah, since release date in 04
[01:53:22] <DeadYak> gotcha
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[01:53:25] <geist> but i dont put that much time into it lately
[01:53:33] <geist> so i only pop in for an hour or so every once in a while
[01:54:27] <geist> in fact, i just forgot and had left my mule in the auction house on another desktop for the last hour :)
[01:54:42] <DeadYak> whoops
[01:54:44] <geist> *thats* why the gpu is spooled up
[01:54:44] <DeadYak> sell anything?
[01:55:59] <geist> was scanning it
[02:02:17] <CIA-5> axeld * r27987 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/device_manager/device_manager.cpp: * The device manager must use kprintf() when printing out stuff in the KDL.
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[03:05:40] <mmadia> has anyone been having trouble editing files with PE?   it complains that theyre read-only
[03:07:41] <Begasus> me me me ;)
[03:08:39] <Begasus> seems that lately I need to adjust user rights to files after ectracting ...
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[03:13:21] <mmadia> via chmod or right-click -> file info ?
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[03:18:10] <ari2-free> hi
[03:18:35] <ari2-free> haven't been on in a while
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[04:17:25] <Begasus> g'night peeps
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[07:06:43] <pyCube> cool
[07:07:07] <pyCube> taking my kids to the new fangled california academy of sciences next week
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[09:20:48] <leszek> morgen
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[10:09:23] <CIA-5> zooey * r27988 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/net/udp_echo.c: * fixed output format and a warning
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[11:17:52] <tqh> another fine day at begeistert?
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[12:06:34] <dr_evil> mmu_man is lunch already over?
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[12:38:06] <plfiorini> hi
[12:48:26] <mmu_man> dr_evil yes
[12:48:42] <mmu_man> they though we were only 9, so I'm not sure we all had it
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[13:05:41] <CIA-5> stippi * r27989 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/storage/FindDirectory.cpp: Honour line 80 chars per line limit.
[13:11:26] <CIA-5> stippi * r27990 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/storage/NodeInfo.cpp: (log message trimmed)
[13:11:26] <CIA-5> Rewrote BNodeInfo::GetTrackerIcon().
[13:11:26] <CIA-5> * Exit the function early in case of error, instead of maintaining the error
[13:11:26] <CIA-5>  until the end.
[13:11:26] <CIA-5> * Separate more clearly the condition that a file type is available at all
[13:11:26] <CIA-5>  versus not. This removes a redundancy when falling back to the generic
[13:11:28] <CIA-5>  file icon.
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[13:39:11] <atomozero> mmu_man: i have problem download http://revolf.free.fr/beos/netsurf-bone.zip is very very slow :(
[13:39:55] <atomozero> 0,5K/s :(
[13:40:37] <mmu_man> seems to be common from outside france :(
[13:41:00] <atomozero> yes i know
[13:41:05] <atomozero> no problem :)
[13:41:49] <atomozero> good begeistert! :)
[13:46:10] <Monni> maybe France has dial-up connection to foreign countries :)
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[13:46:56] <Monni> I know some Eastern European countries had shitty round-trip times due to E.T connections...
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[14:00:09] <mmu_man> maybe some other countries have poor peering before france :P
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[14:15:28] <mmu_man> hmm
[14:15:29] <mmu_man> http://dev.haiku-os.org/log/haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/arch
[14:15:35] <mmu_man> TemplateNotFound: Template "macros.html" not found
[14:25:38] <CIA-5> bonefish * r27991 /haiku/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[14:25:38] <CIA-5> We need to let the runtime loader call shared object termination hooks
[14:25:38] <CIA-5> from exit().
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[14:30:09] <CIA-5> bonefish * r27992 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/system/kernel/time_stats.cpp:
[14:30:09] <CIA-5> Added option '-b' for setting the buffer size used for the scheduling
[14:30:09] <CIA-5> analysis.
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[15:06:11] <CIA-5> korli * r27993 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/media_addon/main.cpp: made several inherited methods virtual
[15:06:38] <DaaT> mmu_man, how's BG coming along?
[15:06:44] <mmu_man> nice
[15:06:58] <mmu_man> we might get next one in april
[15:07:14] <DaaT> yay
[15:07:36] <DaaT> i didn't even recognize the hostel from begasus' pic
[15:07:48] <mmu_man> yeah it changed a lot
[15:10:08] <plfiorini> april? that would be nice
[15:10:19] <DaaT> yep
[15:10:43] <plfiorini> although october has october fest
[15:10:56] <DaaT> in munich ;)
[15:13:01] <DaaT> wow, the hostel's restaurant...
[15:13:09] <plfiorini> easter would be appreciated, so one can easily get vacation
[15:13:58] <mmu_man> except they thought we would be only 9 at lunch so there wasn't exactly enough I think
[15:14:02] <mmu_man> barely
[15:14:40] <DaaT> lol
[15:14:45] <DaaT> it looks great though
[15:14:52] <DaaT> btw mmu_man, nice hat :P
[15:14:59] <mmu_man> :)
[15:15:10] <DaaT> :)
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[15:17:09] <DaaT> hola urnenfeld
[15:17:15] <Monni> hola a todos
[15:17:27] <urnenfeld> hola hola
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[15:19:54] <plfiorini> hola urnenfeld
[15:20:08] <plfiorini> urnenfeld, documents updated on osdrawer
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[15:22:29] <urnenfeld> thanks plfiorini :) andrea commented me
[15:22:39] <plfiorini> np you're welcome
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[15:28:40] <CIA-5> axeld * r27994 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/ (bus_managers/ide/ata.c generic/ide_adapter/ide_adapter.c): (log message trimmed)
[15:28:40] <CIA-5> Marcus + Michael:
[15:28:40] <CIA-5> * Fixed LBA48 access in the ide_adapter. This should fix bug #2700 and probably
[15:28:40] <CIA-5>  others as well: accessing data beyond the 128 GB barrier on PATA hard drives
[15:28:40] <CIA-5>  did not work and could potentially screw the first blocks of your hard drive.
[15:28:43] <CIA-5> * Also fixed queued LBA48 access in the IDE bus manager (this has already been
[15:28:45] <CIA-5>  removed in the ATA bus manager).
[15:29:45] <DaaT> nice commit
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[15:41:30] <mmadia> tqh  -- i'm burning my tree to pull a new one for your nspr patch #2
[15:41:42] <tqh> mmadia, do so.
[15:42:20] <tqh> if you have time after you built retry with the config changes applied as well
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[15:45:58] <mmadia> aye aye
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[16:10:08] <CIA-5> stippi * r27995 /haiku/trunk/docs/welcome/ (12 files in 4 dirs):
[16:10:08] <CIA-5> Patch by Humdinger:
[16:10:08] <CIA-5> * Improved Tracker and Deskbar introductions.
[16:10:08] <CIA-5> * Updated and improved a few graphics and added some more.
[16:10:08] <CIA-5> (Humdinger: The Teammonitor intro was missing from your patch.)
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[16:17:50] <mmu_man> switching room, brb
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[17:31:10] <leszek> hi
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[17:36:36] <dr_evil> plop mmu_man
[17:36:40] <mmu_man> plop
[17:36:58] <dr_evil> im home
[17:38:34] <CIA-5> zooey * r27996 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/stack/datalink.cpp:
[17:38:34] <CIA-5> * fixed receiving of IP-level broadcasts - fixing the rest of
[17:38:34] <CIA-5>  #2065
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[18:14:24] <mmadia> does haiku's gcc2 compiler support  --undefined ?
[18:14:42] <DeadYak> mmadia: as in undefined symbols? don't think R5's linker knows how to handle that
[18:15:22] <mmadia> yes,  i'm trying to wrestle gettext to build as a shared lib   when building in haiku
[18:15:40] <mmadia> (and without specifying --build=i586-pc-beos)
[18:17:40] * DaaT pets DeadYak
[18:18:59] * DeadYak pets DaaT
[18:19:07] <DeadYak> mmadia: haiku does support that though
[18:19:23] <mmadia> ok, i'll remove some of my blind-additions to it's configure.
[18:19:38] <DeadYak> mmadia: sorry, I misread your original question, it's not so much the compiler as the runtime loader/linker that has to be able to handle it
[18:20:06] <mmadia> also, is PIC the default for haiku?
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[18:20:20] <DeadYak> that I don't know
[18:20:42] <mmadia> any idea what PIC is?  last i checked , it involved noses.
[18:21:03] <mmadia> (ha ha ha)
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[18:21:32] <scraliontis> hi
[18:22:01] <scraliontis> i got haiku to run on real hardware,
[18:22:12] <leszek> nice
[18:22:15] <leszek> me too
[18:22:42] <scraliontis> i mounted the image, and copied the files to a new partition, and setup bootman to boot from it.
[18:23:37] <scraliontis> how do i get to install some apps from within haiku, there seems to be no browser or anything
[18:23:43] <leszek> thats exactly how I did it on my old Zeta PC
[18:24:29] <leszek> scraliontis, thats right you need first to get a browser, the best would be with another OS , or try wget in the termina
[18:24:32] <leszek> l
[18:24:33] <DeadYak> scraliontis: you can wget firefox
[18:25:01] <DeadYak> try wget  http://www.yellowbites.com/downloads/Firefox-2.0.0.12.zip
[18:25:40] <scraliontis> works, DeadYak
[18:30:50] <scraliontis> can i delete /boot/beos/etc/fonts, i made the haiku partition to small
[18:36:39] <mmadia> interesting,  ./configure says the gcc linker ( /boot/develop/.../i586-pc-haiku/bin/ld supports shared libraries,  however the g++ linker (same path, same binary) does not.
[18:36:43] <DeadYak> you kinda need those fonts...
[18:37:33] <scraliontis> DeadYak: of course.
[18:40:26] <scraliontis> can i run the firefox from zeta inside haiku?
[18:41:33] <pulkomandy_> http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/ we're looking for a BeOS/Haiku port ! only needs SDL :)
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[18:43:13] <leszek> pulkomandy_, begasus has a good knowledge about SDL i think. Her ported many games that required SDL , try asking him if comes back only
[18:43:17] <leszek> *online
[18:43:32] <pulkomandy_> ok
[18:43:48] <pulkomandy_> i think it should be just a matter of typing make, anyways :)
[18:44:24] <mmadia> http://www.zeta-games.com/temp/Haiku_libs.html
[18:46:59] <pulkomandy_> the problem is, i don't have a beos machine for testing nor building :(
[18:48:15] <pulkomandy_> (and there is no ./configure crap in that project, only a plain makefile)
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[19:00:10] <CIA-5> zooey * r27997 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/network/protocols/ipv4/ipv4.cpp: * fixed sending of IP-level broadcasts
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[19:09:05] <urnenfeld> Monni?
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[19:13:21] <scraliontis> i am happy to report, by installing oss i got my sound working.
[19:15:08] <mmu_man> :)
[19:16:13] * DeadYak plops mmu_man
[19:16:16] <scraliontis> however its crackly and when i had played music from an audio cd via the .wav. with mediaplayer haiku died
[19:19:02] <scraliontis> any ideas?
[19:20:15] <scraliontis> brb
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[20:00:43] <pyCube> hehe
[20:00:49] <DaaT> next BG already set
[20:00:55] <pyCube> my oldest daughter wants to watch silence of the lambs
[20:01:25] <DaaT> how old is she?
[20:01:41] <pyCube> 14
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[20:02:22] <DaaT> ahh
[20:02:23] <pyCube> she's more than mature enough to handle it.. fiction hasnt phased my kids since they were maybe 4
[20:02:33] <leszek> re
[20:03:06] <pyCube> they have a pretty good grasp on "..this is a movie, ie fake"
[20:04:53] <pyCube> but, i am pretty sure silence-lambs will freak her out.. heheh
[20:04:55] <pyCube> the good kind
[20:05:40] <DaaT> just don't turn off all the lights and go sneaking around her with night vision goggles
[20:05:50] <pyCube> hehe
[20:06:58] <CIA-5> mmu_man * r27998 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/string/arch/m68k/arch_string.S: Enable and fix the asm memcpy(). It's far from optimized, but works now and fixes the build.
[20:06:58] <pyCube> the other one she wants to see is pet semetary
[20:08:07] <DaaT> don't know it
[20:08:29] <pyCube> stephen king book -> film
[20:09:45] * umccullough removes freezing battery from freezer, tries to charge it
[20:10:16] <DaaT> ah ok
[20:10:22] <umccullough> considering my laptop failed to recognize it at all for a couple minutes, i'm guessing that the temp sensor on the battery (that tells it when the charge is complete) got screwed up there for a minute ;)
[20:10:45] <umccullough> perhaps that's why people have had luck freezing batteries to "revive" them
[20:12:22] <CIA-5> mmu_man * r27999 /haiku/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[20:12:22] <CIA-5> r27530 - allow faults with ints disabled if there is a handler
[20:12:22] <CIA-5> r27648 - call the end-of-interrupt thread callback
[20:12:22] <CIA-5> r27718 - add <asm_defs.h>, not used yet
[20:12:23] <CIA-5> r27722 - register the commpage as image and symbols (but we don't use it yet)
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[20:14:34] <pyCube> speaking of batteries.. i gotta replace the batt in an old ipod mini my kids were given
[20:14:51] <pyCube> ..or figure out how to make it keep a charge
[20:15:04] <CIA-5> anevilyak * r28000 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/media/media-add-ons/firewire_dv/ (7 files):
[20:15:04] <CIA-5> Code style cleanup / honored 80 column line length limit. Modified FireWireDVAddOn to use BObjectList.
[20:15:04] <CIA-5> Feel free to chime in if I missed any style violations.
[20:15:59] <pyCube> oh.. and i wrote my first actual c extension for python last night.. woo
[20:16:00] <pyCube> heh
[20:16:09] <DaaT> yay
[20:16:10] <DaaT> congrats
[20:16:25] <pyCube> is is kinda fun
[20:16:28] <pyCube> c
[20:16:31] <pyCube> c is
[20:18:17] <mmu_man> DeadYak btw, dunno why, I can't build it from zeta
[20:18:27] <mmu_man> nor the version I had even though it used to build, weird
[20:18:41] <mmu_man> it uses the bsd compat types.h IIRC
[20:18:42] <mmu_man> odd
[20:18:54] <mmu_man> but maybe I have a corrupted file
[20:20:03] <DeadYak> should it build from zeta? :)
[20:20:10] <DeadYak> I don't know if that's ever really been tested
[20:22:20] <mmu_man> I mean build for Haiku under zeta
[20:22:26] <mmu_man> gcc2
[20:22:33] <DeadYak> what's the error?
[20:22:36] <mmu_man> oddly it builds on my linux server with gcc2
[20:22:45] <DeadYak> it builds cleanly on FreeBSD cross compile here
[20:23:20] <mmu_man> plenty cause it uses the bsd headers
[20:23:37] <DeadYak> yeah but those are included in the source tree
[20:24:09] <mmu_man> yes but why is it using them anyway
[20:24:26] <DeadYak> that I don't know :)
[20:24:40] <DeadYak> I seem to remember the actual fw bus manager being derived from the FreeBSD one though
[20:24:57] <DeadYak> so maybe he just added it out of habit
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[20:37:36] <mmu_man> maybe he needed another header
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[20:37:48] <mmu_man> but what's odd is it builds elsewhere and it used to work
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[20:39:10] <DeadYak> mmu_man: seems to be using bsd compat for sys/ioccom.h
[20:39:34] <DeadYak> which I'm honestly not familiar with
[20:39:56] <DeadYak> probably for the ioctls?
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[20:42:01] <ddew|bofh> heya
[20:44:18] <DeadYak> hi
[20:47:50] <ddew|bofh> heh, just saw some new wallpapers from Ubuntu 8.10
[20:47:59] <ddew|bofh> guess which color they were? :P
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[20:53:44] <pyCube> not blue
[20:54:00] <pyCube> i really like ubuntu color schemes
[20:54:38] <ddew|bofh> can't stand the browness
[20:54:48] <pyCube> i always use either earth tones or greyscales
[20:55:26] <pyCube> i cant stand colorful desktops
[20:55:33] <ddew|bofh> i tend to stick to grayscales myself
[20:56:07] <ddew|bofh> colors are too "strong" for my taste, draws attention away from the contents of the windows
[20:56:47] <pyCube> whether you like ubuntu brown/tan or not, you have to admit that its a very "ubuntu" thing.. immediately recognizable
[20:57:16] <ddew|bofh> indeed it is, it's become the ubuntu thing
[20:57:23] <ddew|bofh> like blue has become the fedora thing
[20:57:31] <ddew|bofh> green is suse
[20:57:36] <ddew|bofh> and so on ad nauseum :)
[20:57:41] <pyCube> blue has been the every os thing for ever it seems
[20:58:13] <ddew|bofh> in fedora it's the dark navy blue theme
[20:58:32] <ddew|bofh> that's fairly unique in my experience
[20:58:58] <ddew|bofh> and if you say luna i'll powerchoke you :P
[20:59:00] <pyCube> anymore color scheme doesnt even really matter, as i have been using tiling wm's
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[20:59:11] <pyCube> whats luna?
[20:59:17] <ddew|bofh> the xp theme
[20:59:18] <DeadYak> luna = XP's default skin
[20:59:21] <pyCube> ah
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[21:04:58] <ddew|bofh> so, when does the coding sprint start? :)
[21:05:18] <DeadYak> in theory tomorrow
[21:05:28] <DeadYak> in practice we've seen a decent number of commits over the past two days already
[21:06:03] <ddew|bofh> indeed
[21:09:55] <pulkomandy_> +++
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[21:14:06] <CIA-5> axeld * r28001 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/fs/vfs_request_io.cpp:
[21:14:06] <CIA-5> * do_iterative_fd_io_iterate() must check for B_BUFFER_OVERFLOW to handle the
[21:14:06] <CIA-5>  case it has to call the file map translation hook again to fulfill the whole
[21:14:06] <CIA-5>  request; it already handled the partial case correctly.
[21:14:06] <CIA-5> * This fixes an occasional "Value too large" error when accesssing fragmented
[21:14:08] <CIA-5>  files.
[21:14:20] <dr_evil> the coding sprint started about 16:00 when the room was changed :)
[21:14:51] <ddew|bofh> hehe
[21:14:57] <ddew|bofh> that's the spirit
[21:15:13] <DaaT> how long will it last?
[21:15:17] <ddew|bofh> lock them in a room and provide an unlimited supply of jolt, red bull and pizza :P
[21:15:44] <pyCube> egad.. is this a "lets make ourselves sick and shave years from our lives" sprint?
[21:16:18] <DaaT> what's wrong with that pyCube ?
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[21:16:27] <pyCube> heh
[21:16:43] <ddew|bofh> it's not like the years at the end of life are the great ones anyway :P
[21:17:12] <pyCube> ..especially when youve gorged on kjolt, redbull, and pizza in the previous years
[21:17:49] <ddew|bofh> endulging once in a while in junk food is hardly the end of the world
[21:18:08] <pyCube> maybe i'm just getting old.. but thats not the sort of food/fuel that would keep me going and inspire coding
[21:18:21] <DeadYak> dr_evil: ha
[21:18:51] <pyCube> ddew|bofh: sure.. but like i said, i cant imagine it making me want to stay up and code my brains out
[21:19:17] <pyCube> oh wait, i forgot the "imho" part
[21:19:32] <ddew|bofh> pyCube: it's a metaphore. i'm no fan of pizza as codingfood either, i prefer chili. but it's the proverbial hack food
[21:19:42] <pyCube> oh
[21:19:58] <DeadYak> I didn't think jolt was all that popular over there anyways :)
[21:20:32] <ddew|bofh> way overrated, dr pepper ftw
[21:20:34] <pyCube> i like coffee/tea, cannabis, and cold fruit
[21:20:38] <DaaT> don't even know "jolt"
[21:20:48] <DeadYak> DaaT: you're not missing much
[21:20:49] <pyCube> maybe some cheese and bread/crackers
[21:20:58] <DaaT> seems so
[21:21:00] <DeadYak> I'm more of a tea person too
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[21:21:16] <DeadYak> I've pretty much stopped drinking soda, was never big into energy drinks
[21:21:26] <ddew|bofh> i'm a huge fan of espresso
[21:21:33] <pyCube> yeah..i have soda maybe once every couple months
[21:21:52] <ddew|bofh> not that it's the best drink for hackruns but it sure tastes great :)
[21:22:01] <DeadYak> ddew|bofh: I like coffee too :)
[21:22:03] <DeadYak> if done right
[21:22:07] <DaaT> when out, I drink ice tea basically
[21:22:13] <DaaT> at home, tea or milk
[21:22:33] <DaaT> at work, yogurt (not the schwartz one)
[21:22:43] <ddew|bofh> DeadYak: of course it's gotta be done right, instant is teh devil!!
[21:22:55] <DeadYak> instant qualifies as coffee?
[21:23:05] <pyCube> heh
[21:23:09] <ddew|bofh> to some loonies anyhoo
[21:23:50] <DaaT> don't like coffee
[21:26:37] <ddew|bofh> tea's allright but it lacks the impact of coffee imo
[21:26:48] <ddew|bofh> coffee's got a stronger taste to it
[21:26:51] <pyCube> i like to make really strong black tea and cut it with steamed milk
[21:27:03] <tic> pyCube, +1 on that.
[21:27:13] <tic> or rather whipped cream nowadays, less sugar. :-)
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[21:28:23] <DaaT> pyCube, tea with milk? ugh
[21:28:24] <DaaT> no thanks
[21:28:26] <DaaT> :)
[21:28:47] <pyCube> DaaT: not any te.. has to be the right tea
[21:28:47] <ddew|bofh> heh, good lad
[21:29:10] <pyCube> a good malty black tea
[21:29:11] <ddew|bofh> the idea of consuming animal lactations is revolting to me
[21:29:12] <DaaT> still, tea with milk
[21:29:22] <DaaT> ddew|bofh, i love milk
[21:29:24] <DaaT> just not on my tea
[21:29:46] <tic> the tar tea, surprisingly, does very well with milk.
[21:29:49] <ddew|bofh> coffees and teas should br dunk straight up, no milk or sugar :)
[21:29:55] <ddew|bofh> *drunk
[21:29:55] <pyCube> heh
[21:30:08] <CIA-5> stippi * r28002 /haiku/trunk/ (headers/os/interface/Window.h src/kits/interface/Window.cpp): (log message trimmed)
[21:30:08] <CIA-5> * Refactored a method for getting the transit from a mouse moved message.
[21:30:08] <CIA-5> * In _StealMouseMessage(), don't maintain fLastMouseMovedView, instead,
[21:30:08] <CIA-5>  prevent B_MOUSE_MOVED message from being stolen that are important for
[21:30:08] <CIA-5>  detecting transit changes. The point is that some apps (like Tracker) are
[21:30:12] <CIA-5>  shooting themselves in the foot because they steal mouse messages via
[21:30:14] <CIA-5>  GetMouse() in one place, but then rely on sane transit values in another
[21:30:35] <tic> (lapsang)
[21:30:53] <pyCube> the most evil thing people put in their bevergaes are artificial sweeteners
[21:31:03] <ddew|bofh> yeah, they're horrid
[21:31:09] <DaaT> agreed
[21:31:52] <CIA-5> stippi * r28003 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/servers/app/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[21:31:52] <CIA-5> Added a test application for view transit changes, including the problem
[21:31:52] <CIA-5> of stealing (not anymore) mouse messages that are important for maintaining
[21:31:52] <CIA-5> the correct transit.
[21:43:20] <mmu_man> DeadYak hey !
[21:43:27] <mmu_man> you got the cookie jar !!!
[21:43:34] <mmu_man> Author: anevilyak
[21:43:37] <mmu_man> New Revision: 28000
[21:44:47] <mmu_man> http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/28000
[21:44:59] * DaaT wedgies DeadYak
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[21:56:19] <DeadYak> mmu_man: not intentionally :)
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[21:59:03] <CIA-5> axeld * r28004 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/arch/x86/arch_cpu.cpp: (log message trimmed)
[21:59:03] <CIA-5> mmlr:
[21:59:03] <CIA-5> * Actually call prepare_sleep_state() instead of calling enter_sleep_state()
[21:59:03] <CIA-5>  twice...
[21:59:03] <CIA-5> * Commented out disabling interrupts when calling enter_sleep_state(), as our
[21:59:04] <CIA-5>  ACPI modules would then crash (needs memory & uses sems with interrupts
[21:59:08] <CIA-5>  disabled). This way, it at least works on some hardware, including emulators
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[22:10:23] <pyCube> so whats the deal with austria and crazy right-wingers?  I am assuming it's a magnet for dipshits that derive meaning from it being the birthplace of hitler.. but sheesh
[22:10:47] <DeadYak> referring to Haider?
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[22:11:15] <DeadYak> every country has its crazy right wingers like that, you just don't hear about them in intl news much
[22:11:20] <pyCube> yeah.. and that it seems every 5 or 10 years, there's a resurgence of that crap
[22:11:28] <pyCube> sure, i know
[22:12:08] <pyCube> maybe thats it.. media pays more attention to austrian assholes because of what i said about reading too much into hitler being born there
[22:12:32] <ddew|bofh> it's the art of deflection
[22:12:52] <ddew|bofh> by focusing on the more radical nutcases the media diverts attention from the real issues
[22:13:06] <pyCube> growing up in rural america, i certainly know about narrow right wing tendancies in people
[22:13:30] <ddew|bofh> besides, the only papers i've seen here that got it something other than page 6 news are the tabloids
[22:13:37] <pyCube> i really like austria.
[22:13:39] <ddew|bofh> most "real" papers hardly mentioned it
[22:13:44] <pyCube> i loved it when i was there
[22:14:05] <ddew|bofh> austria rocks, way fun country to drive in
[22:14:12] <pyCube> i bet
[22:14:14] <DeadYak> the only reason Haider's noteworthy at all is because he did come kinda close to being elected at some point a decade or two ago
[22:14:40] <ddew|bofh> DeadYak: iirc his comeback a while back was pretty successful too
[22:14:44] <tic> wonder if this is a real setback for the right-wing popularity in .at?
[22:14:49] <tic> (probably not)
[22:15:48] <ddew|bofh> i think a large part of the right-wing rise as of late is simply an expression of frustration. they're the antagonists to the current governments
[22:17:09] <ddew|bofh> we had an extreme right-wing party come into some power the last election but it turned out that they were all talk, no action and had zero political ideas
[22:17:21] <pyCube> sure.. but its an amazingly simplistic form of venting.. i keep hoping societies will grow up
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[22:18:54] <ddew|bofh> only time will tell, some would argue that society at large has gone downhill sine the greeks invented democracy
[22:19:48] <pyCube> like, there's nothing wrong with connecting with and appreciating ones heritage, culture, etc.. but i DONT get taking itso literally that you actually erect walls around it, as if people not like you are actually different in ways that matter
[22:20:25] <pyCube> democracy does tend to force points of contention to rise to the surface
[22:20:30] <ddew|bofh> what pisses me off is that some people think globalization is a bad thing
[22:20:51] <pyCube> globalization is a vague thing
[22:21:03] <umccullough> it's inevitable
[22:21:09] <ddew|bofh> fuck, without any outside influence or ideas stagnation occurs
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[22:21:13] <pyCube> certain aspects are wonderful.. globalization of idea/knowledge flow, etc.. great
[22:21:54] <pyCube> its when you get these fragiile global networks that societies depend upon that it gets scarey
[22:22:06] <ddew|bofh> people need to stop identifying themselves by what part of the world they come from, what their religion is and so on and start identifying themselves by who they are
[22:22:11] <pyCube> like economic, agricultural, etc
[22:22:19] * JonathanThompson notes the world is an inherently scary place
[22:22:36] <ddew|bofh> the world is pretty ok, it's the people that are fucked up :)
[22:22:49] <pyCube> ddew|bofh: yeah.. i really think that political borders are near the root of a lot of BS in the world
[22:22:53] <JonathanThompson> To many people, their religion, work, location, that *IS* who they are.
[22:22:59] <pyCube> again, the taking of them too seriously art
[22:23:03] <pyCube> part
[22:23:07] <ddew|bofh> JonathanThompson: which honestly is pretty pathetic
[22:23:28] <JonathanThompson> People need to disconnect from their realities.
[22:23:40] <JonathanThompson> They need to be more abstract ;)
[22:23:46] <ddew|bofh> people need to stop being offended by everything :)
[22:23:52] <pyCube> totally
[22:23:53] <pyCube> hehe
[22:24:06] <pyCube> nothing more offensive that somebody taking offense to every goddamn thing you say
[22:24:11] <pyCube> :-p
[22:24:19] <JonathanThompson> That's an important thing: no matter how hard you try to give offense, for it to have any meaning, someone has to take it ;)
[22:24:26] <ddew|bofh> i've started making a point of being as offensive as possible whenever i can
[22:24:41] * JonathanThompson hands ddew|bofh a gold star for his accomplishments
[22:24:46] <ddew|bofh> not offensive in the "personal attacks" kinda way, but more by ridiculing
[22:25:19] <JonathanThompson> Aren't those often the same thing? :)
[22:25:23] <JonathanThompson> See points above.
[22:25:40] <pyCube> i say things all the time that offend people.. not entirely on purpose.. only in that I wont go out of my way to avoid stupid word games..
[22:26:01] <ddew|bofh> well that's the point i'm making, if they take what fun i make of stuff personally it's not my problem and they need to grow a thicker skin
[22:26:12] <JonathanThompson> And other times, you go out of your way to try to create offense, too, pyCube ;)
[22:26:22] <pyCube> like if somebody starts talking about an indian person.. for clarity, i will ask "indian or injun?"
[22:26:25] <ddew|bofh> stirring the pot indeed :)
[22:26:38] <pyCube> people get all bent
[22:26:49] <JonathanThompson> Well, in the US, the question may be, are they referring to a native american or those from India?
[22:26:57] <pyCube> screw that.. if somebody says injun, there's not ambiguity
[22:27:08] <JonathanThompson> At work, if I mention Indian, chances are they're from a different continent ;)
[22:27:21] <ddew|bofh> damn political correctness
[22:27:42] <pyCube> JonathanThompson: my point is that indian or injun is a much simpler question.. and everybody knows what i mean
[22:27:53] <ddew|bofh> i don't give a flying fuck if you're indian, hebrew, kurd or whatever. odds are you're going to piss me off regardless :)
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[22:28:11] <JonathanThompson> All's fair in love and pissing people off ;)
[22:28:17] <pyCube> that people try to squeeze racism into/out of that question is beyond me
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[22:32:01] <pyCube> i've never met an india that didnt get a kick out of being greated with "how.." + hand held up..
[22:32:06] <pyCube> greeted
[22:32:21] <pyCube> its f'ing hilarious
[22:32:23] <pyCube> hehe
[22:32:59] <ddew|bofh> to me stuff like that is only fun if you do it to yourself as well
[22:33:15] <pyCube> if its mocking anything, its mocking old dumb white folk and their stereotypes
[22:33:33] <ddew|bofh> imo you can't mock anyone if you won't mock yourself
[22:33:47] <pyCube> thats kind of what i mean
[22:34:05] <pyCube> at least to me, when i do that to an indian i am mocking my white heritage
[22:34:19] <pyCube> seems pretty clear
[22:34:32] <ddew|bofh> might be hard to swallow
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[22:34:42] <pyCube> for sensitive white folks, yeah
[22:35:04] <DaaT> El-Al!
[22:35:06] <pyCube> i spent a lot of time around indians.. rendezvous and pow-wows and such
[22:35:18] <El-Al> DaaT! Hiya
[22:35:22] <DaaT> how goes it?
[22:35:30] <El-Al> cool
[22:35:31] <ddew|bofh> people are idiots, most of the time the subtle approach is wasted
[22:35:55] <El-Al> Daat! u on facebook? My wife is asking...
[22:36:01] <DaaT> nope El-Al
[22:36:05] * JonathanThompson lobs an oily sheep at DaaT in greeting
[22:36:11] <DeadYak> why oily?
[22:36:19] * DaaT welcomes the sheep, oily or not
[22:36:27] <DaaT> DeadYak, more valuable? :P
[22:36:30] <DaaT> crude's expensive
[22:36:32] <El-Al> Any ideas as to why i might be getting this error on jam: FATAL: can't create generated/objects/haiku/x86/release/bin/debug/profile/BasicThreadProfileResult.o: Not a directory
[22:37:21] <umccullough> oily sheep are slippery
[22:37:27] <umccullough> hard to hang onto
[22:37:50] <DaaT> eel-sheep
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[22:39:01] <DeadYak> El-Al: rm generated/objects/haiku/x86/release/bin/debug/profile
[22:39:01] <El-Al> Im hoping one of you guys can shed a little light on my error above. I havn't booted Haiku in months and now, I believe the bug that is stopping me boot may now be sorted!
[22:39:20] <umccullough> yeah, what DeadYak said :)
[22:39:29] <umccullough> most of us had to do the same in the last couple weeks
[22:39:55] <El-Al> DeadYak: cool, I'll give it a whirl! :)
[22:41:11] <umccullough> DeadYak, got those two racks on Friday
[22:41:17] <umccullough> clogging up my garage :(
[22:41:24] <DeadYak> hah
[22:41:34] <umccullough> gotta tear one apart to change the parts on the other
[22:41:44] <umccullough> since they're in a slightly non-standard configuration
[22:42:13] * umccullough looks for the camera
[22:42:42] <umccullough> i'm happy to report I also fixed the "something floating around inside" problem with my JVC mini-DV camera
[22:42:46] <umccullough> turned out to be a screw
[22:42:52] <umccullough> probably why it sometimes flaked out and died on me
[22:42:55] <DeadYak> whoops
[22:43:01] <DeadYak> no perm damage?
[22:43:02] <umccullough> found where it came out of too :P
[22:43:05] <umccullough> nope, not that i can tell
[22:43:21] <DeadYak> good good
[22:43:26] <umccullough> sometimes it would just shut off randomly
[22:43:31] <umccullough> guess it wasn't so random afterall ;)
[22:43:41] <DeadYak> probably the screw  shorting something?
[22:43:51] <umccullough> yeah
[22:44:04] <umccullough> it was floating around on the solder-side of the board inside
[22:44:22] <umccullough> lucky it still works i guess :P
[22:44:25] <DeadYak> yeah, that'd totally do it
[22:44:26] <DaaT> so the camera had a loose screw?
[22:44:29] <DaaT> *ducks*
[22:45:35] <DeadYak> DaaT: *poke* :P
[22:45:44] <DaaT> :P
[22:45:50] <umccullough> DaaT, among other things
[22:46:02] <umccullough> i mean, among other items i possess
[22:46:50] <umccullough> damn, my wife must have left the still camera in her car when she left
[22:49:49] <DaaT> El-Al, what have you been up to?
[22:50:50] <El-Al> DaaT! oh! bit o this, bit o that! Not a great deal really. Just launched myself into a trike building project though
[22:51:33] <DaaT> a trike? cool
[22:51:40] <DaaT> with pedals and all?
[22:51:40] <DaaT> :P
[22:51:47] <El-Al> yup! ;)
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[22:52:04] <El-Al> two pedals
[22:52:52] <DaaT> yay
[22:53:02] <umccullough> and a 1600cc engine too right? ;)
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[22:53:25] <El-Al> yeppers! ;)
[22:53:30] <umccullough> heh
[22:53:38] <El-Al> vw based trike
[22:54:22] <El-Al> Its come to the time in my life where comfort is becoming more important than speed! :0
[22:54:23] <DaaT> don't forget the pics after it's done
[22:55:01] <El-Al> you dont want to see it now.... its jus ....yuk! right now
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[22:55:11] <DaaT> not now then
[22:55:12] <DaaT> :)
[22:55:15] <El-Al> rusty, greasy mess
[22:55:22] <umccullough> home-built frame?
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[22:55:51] <El-Al> umccullough: yeah, from the ground up!
[22:55:56] <umccullough> fun :P
[22:56:11] <El-Al> disign is done....its real neat
[22:56:22] <DaaT> only neat if it'll fly
[22:56:27] <El-Al> start building in the new year
[22:56:47] <umccullough> flight occurs when you hit ~90mph ;)
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[22:57:15] <DaaT> umccullough, and do you input the year you want to travel before or after?
[22:57:20] <El-Al> on a vw trike, only the front wheel takes off tho' :(
[22:57:21] <DaaT> before i guess
[22:57:36] <DeadYak> DaaT: hahahaha
[22:57:58] <DaaT> though I thought 88mph were enough
[22:58:07] <umccullough> yeah, 88mph and you see some serious shit
[22:58:11] <DeadYak> :P
[22:59:21] <El-Al> bbiab, I'm gonna try booting Haiku, if it boots, It'll be the first time iv'e succeeded since March/April
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[23:04:57] <ddew|bofh> haha, best description of Palin ever: "Evangelical dominatrix"
[23:05:33] <DaaT> eh
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[23:09:28] <DaaT> did it work?
[23:09:35] <El-Al> Pooh! oh well....nope
[23:09:50] <El-Al> sytem balks at the pci icon
[23:10:20] <DaaT> try a more recent revision?
[23:10:25] <DeadYak> what's the last message with console debug on?
[23:10:52] <El-Al> ohci: successfully started the controller
[23:10:57] <DeadYak> ah
[23:11:04] <El-Al> then a frozen cursor
[23:11:18] <CIA-5> stippi * r28005 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/mediaplayer/ (Controller.cpp Controller.h):
[23:11:18] <CIA-5> Fix playback of playlists when "auto play files" is off. The playback stopped
[23:11:18] <CIA-5> after every new file of a playlist.
[23:11:59] <El-Al> DaaT! already at the latest rev
[23:12:13] <DaaT> ah ok
[23:12:22] <DaaT> try an older revision?
[23:12:23] <DaaT> :P
[23:13:00] <El-Al> tried EVERY revision p)
[23:13:09] <CIA-5> stippi * r28006 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/mediaplayer/playlist/ (5 files):
[23:13:09] <CIA-5> * Some work in progress towards supporting "Playlist->Save" versus
[23:13:09] <CIA-5>  "Playlist->Save As...".
[23:13:09] <CIA-5> * Fixed loading of playlists. Sorting the list after loading it is
[23:13:09] <CIA-5>  not the idea of restoring a manually sorted playlist.
[23:13:52] <El-Al> I reckon Haiku doesnt like this machine much ;o)
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[23:14:11] <DeadYak> I'm assuming you've tried disabling USB before?
[23:14:54] <El-Al> DeadYak, yeah, just get ohci: cannot find the controller (or similar message)
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[23:15:12] <DeadYak> odd
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[23:15:44] <El-Al> DeadYak, yep, been bugging me for ages now
[23:16:00] <DeadYak> guessing that machine doesn't have a serial port either?
[23:16:20] <El-Al> DeadYak, it does
[23:17:23] <DeadYak> might get a bit more info there
[23:17:29] <El-Al> just watching th Orage County Chopper episode where they go scooter jousting. Funniest thing Iv'e seen in ages. HAHAHAHA
[23:18:09] <El-Al> DeadYak, yeah, I need another machine to output to , don't I?
[23:19:33] <El-Al> DeadYak, what do I need to get serial output up and running?
[23:19:49] <DeadYak> nothing, it's on by default, just need another machine with a null modem serial cable
[23:20:17] <El-Al> Like a windows box?
[23:20:36] <DeadYak> doesn't matter what OS, long as it has some kind of serial terminal availabl
[23:20:38] <DeadYak> available
[23:20:46] <DeadYak> on windows either hyperterminal or putty will do the trick
[23:21:05] <El-Al> cool, I have a spare windows box
[23:21:12] <DeadYak> 115.2kbit, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity or flow control
[23:22:14] <CIA-5> mmu_man * r28007 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/arch/m68k/ (arch_debug.cpp arch_exceptions.S): Fix identifying iframes in stack_traces. What you get copying ppc code without trying to understand :)
[23:22:29] <El-Al> and the data just feed automatically to the terminal window?
[23:22:32] <DaaT> mmu_man, work on netsurf! :P
[23:22:37] <mmu_man> :P
[23:23:37] <El-Al> DeadYak, my null-modem cable is in the loft, havn't used it in years. I will fish it out in the morning!
[23:23:42] <DeadYak> El-Al: assuming you have those serial settings enabled, yes
[23:23:54] <mmu_man> DaaT saw http://revolf.free.fr/beos/shots/shot_beos_netsurf_styled_clipboard.png ?
[23:24:01] <mmu_man> (works with Gobe as well :)
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[23:24:20] <DaaT> nice :)
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[23:28:24] <DaaT> mmu_man, how's the rendering in general?
[23:28:31] <DaaT> and the speed
[23:28:47] <mmu_man> not bad
[23:29:11] <korli_> hey mmu_man
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[23:31:17] <mmu_man> PANIC: WRITEME
[23:31:23] <mmu_man> getting further \o/
[23:33:02] <plfiorini> mmu_man, netsurf is so cool
[23:33:15] <plfiorini> tried this morning with the welcome package and osdrawer
[23:33:42] <CIA-5> mmu_man * r28008 /haiku/trunk/src/system/boot/platform/atari_m68k/ (atari_memory_map.h mmu.cpp):
[23:33:42] <CIA-5> Avoid using the first physical page. The first 2kB are supposedly protected by the hardware (though it should be accessible by supervisor...) This fixes an segfault.
[23:33:42] <CIA-5> Now the kernel panics in M68KAtari::InitTimer()... "WRITEME" :)
[23:35:00] <CIA-5> mmu_man * r28009 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/vm_page.cpp: Fix ifdef, should be DEBUG_PAGE_QUEUE there.
[23:37:21] <DaaT> night
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