September 1, 2008 
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September 1, 2008 [00:00:24] <xcasex> §9§/win 16[00:00:24] <Stalwart> translation of app must be done by one man, otherwise it gets screwed ;[[00:00:26] <xcasex> öak[00:02:31] <stargater> :-)[00:02:53] <stargater> now i can compile ArtPaint in haiku :-)[00:03:14] * Stalwart can't draw ;[[00:03:32] <stargater> but i cant draw :-)[00:03:35] <Stalwart> i can barely read my own handwritten text[00:04:39] <stargater> ArtPaint say , used the left mouse buttons to draw, but i klick but nothink[00:04:57] <stargater> looks like a bug in artpaint/ or haiku[00:05:10] <stargater> in zeta works it[00:07:45] <JonathanThompson> http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/science/770f/action/2114078/[00:09:03] <Stalwart> bugzilla is worst piece of software i've ever used[00:09:15] <JonathanThompson> It's buggy by design ;)[00:09:24] <JonathanThompson> I'm stuck using it at work :([00:09:41] <Stalwart> i'm stuck using it in fedora to do packaging ;[[00:10:05] <Stalwart> ever wondered, why the fsck they can't install something better[00:10:27] <JonathanThompson> Probably something to do with GPL purity.[00:10:30] <Stalwart> but they keep using bz and hack around its limitations by custom patches[00:12:05] <Stalwart> why the hell it has "Login:" label in auth form if i need to enter email in it to log in?[00:12:26] <Stalwart> ok, it's not haiku related, sorry for rambling =P[00:12:40] <JonathanThompson> Your mind may be more at ease if you stop trying to think about the why's and just use it for the what's :)[00:13:15] <Stalwart> and they use cvs for managing spec tree, that's even worse[00:13:41] <JonathanThompson> So, there's Michael Jackson's[00:13:58] <JonathanThompson> ""Bad" and then Weird Al comes along with CVS for "Even Worse" :D[00:14:17] * JonathanThompson has a random association mind at times[00:14:47] <JonathanThompson> I mine my thoughts from the Open Source Dictionary, created by the Free Word Association :D[00:15:09] <JonathanThompson> (Which are both figments of my weird imagination)[00:23:10] *** luroh has quit IRC[00:26:42] * AlienSoldier is about to listen to a podcast featuring the natami http://web.mac.com/rgattie/Site/Media/ART_20080817.mp3[00:30:46] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[00:35:16] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[00:35:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[00:35:22] <stargater> reboot[00:35:25] *** stargater has quit IRC[00:36:30] *** criso has quit IRC[00:41:21] *** stargater has joined #haiku[00:41:30] <stargater> re[00:42:13] <Stalwart> ку[00:47:46] *** Powelly has quit IRC[00:52:57] <CIA-5> korli * r27259 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/glibc/arch/x86/Jamfile: added s_signbitf.c for x86[00:54:05] *** MYOB has quit IRC[00:54:37] *** korli has quit IRC[01:04:45] *** Guma_ has quit IRC[01:07:05] *** Guma_ has joined #haiku[01:08:37] *** plfiorini has quit IRC[01:15:35] *** j has quit IRC[01:26:58] *** Malmis has quit IRC[01:27:12] *** Malmis has joined #Haiku[01:29:38] *** Stefan100 has left #haiku[01:31:20] <AlienSoldier> WTF, they finally did it, the thing i wanted all those years http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/30/texas-instruments-new-led-based-dlp-projection-shines-in-person/[01:31:33] <AlienSoldier> they sure took their sweet time[01:32:25] *** mat_geek has joined #haiku[01:32:57] <DaaT> you should have e-mailed them earlier :)[01:34:31] <AlienSoldier> funnny thing is that i emailed TI and infocus many time about LED[01:34:51] *** wildur has quit IRC[01:35:08] <DaaT> :)[01:35:25] <AlienSoldier> was a TI shareholder at the time and i tought it was so much making sense[01:35:25] <geist> hah, i love how no one knows shit about modern VMs and paging and they still make all sorts of comments about it[01:35:30] <geist> ie, reading osnews[01:35:33] <aldeck> i remember a site of DIY projectors, i've seen a few led projects[01:35:37] <DeadYak> geist: I was just noticing that[01:35:42] <geist> though that PlatformAGnostic guy pretty much got it right[01:35:45] <DeadYak> geist: a lot of people seem entirely unaware of the use of swap for overcommits[01:36:03] <geist> and it lets you write stuff out that is dirty but unused[01:36:07] <geist> to get more space for cache[01:36:15] <DeadYak> yeah[01:36:44] <geist> that being said, having no swap but allowing for overcommits probably gets you most of the way there[01:36:55] <geist> you just need to have a more graceful way to deal with running out of memory[01:37:02] <geist> like start killing processes, throwing stuff overboard[01:37:05] <geist> instead of just crashing[01:37:27] <DeadYak> yeah, that gets a bit risky[01:37:30] <AlienSoldier> i guess they have perfected quantum dot so now they can market led based one :([01:37:38] <geist> that's what linux does if it has no swap[01:37:49] <DeadYak> geist: aka oom-kill?[01:37:53] <geist> each process gets a score based on recent activity, size, etc[01:38:04] <geist> and kills the one with the highest score (or lowest, i forget)[01:38:18] <geist> it's clearly set up to kill that runaway firefox process that is just growing in size Right Now[01:38:57] *** DBAlex has quit IRC[01:39:33] <DeadYak> interesting, was never really aware how oom's decision-making process worked[01:40:04] <DaaT> DeadYak: they use Diebold voting machines[01:40:25] <DaaT> :P[01:43:07] *** Guma_ has quit IRC[01:48:18] *** Guma_ has joined #haiku[01:50:12] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[01:50:13] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[01:51:34] *** oco_ has quit IRC[01:56:36] *** BlankBruno has joined #haiku[01:57:37] *** BlankBruno has quit IRC[01:58:29] *** Malmis has quit IRC[01:58:46] *** Malmis has joined #Haiku[02:15:00] *** andreasf has quit IRC[02:15:08] *** Malmis_ has joined #Haiku[02:24:39] *** Malmis has quit IRC[02:33:06] *** HaikuwareUser has joined #Haiku[02:33:30] *** HaikuwareUser has quit IRC[02:39:10] *** stargater has quit IRC[03:25:08] *** TheNerd has quit IRC[03:26:20] *** adu has joined #haiku[03:40:34] *** j has joined #haiku[03:41:16] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[03:53:47] *** aldeck has quit IRC[04:18:38] 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as thebolt[08:03:56] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[08:04:15] <Begasus> moin[08:06:02] *** DHowett1 has joined #haiku[08:21:09] *** genki has joined #haiku[08:23:41] *** Chowder has joined #haiku[08:24:09] <Chowder> jam -q makebootable[08:24:13] <Chowder> is that how it's done?[08:25:03] <DeadYak> depends, are you trying to build makebootable or execute it?[08:25:09] <Chowder> execute it[08:25:16] <DeadYak> then no[08:25:32] <Chowder> I've got a BASH script running that will do the preliminary steps of the installation[08:25:40] <DeadYak> what platform?[08:25:45] <Chowder> Ubuntu Linux[08:25:55] <databridge> not windows 3.11?[08:26:04] <DeadYak> ...makebootable gets run automatically as part of the build process, why're you trying to do it manually?[08:26:05] <Chowder> lol[08:26:27] <Chowder> i thought that it had to be run seperately[08:26:28] <digitalteufel> Did you dd the image to the partition you want?[08:26:35] <databridge> when will the first haiku iso image be online?[08:26:37] <Chowder> I'm not using dd[08:26:45] <Chowder> I'd rather install from source[08:26:54] <DeadYak> if you're dding an image to a partition, yes, if you're building to a partition, makebootable gets run as part of the jam process[08:26:59] <DeadYak> no need to run it separately[08:27:06] <Chowder> DeadYak: gotcha[08:27:25] <DeadYak> databridge: most likely whenever we decide to release an alpha[08:27:34] <digitalteufel> That's what I mean, if you want to install it manually you need to build the source and dd the image to a partition.[08:27:45] <DeadYak> digitalteufel: mm, no[08:27:51] <databridge> hm :([08:27:53] <DeadYak> digitalteufel: you can set it to target a partition directly in UserBuildConfig[08:28:04] <DeadYak> no dd needed[08:28:10] <digitalteufel> DeadYak, sure you can, but you can also just dd the image.[08:28:23] <DeadYak> sure, if you want to be limited to the amount of disk space the image's filesystem is initialized to[08:28:36] <digitalteufel> That's true.[08:28:47] <DHowett1> and that's too many extra steps[08:28:48] <DeadYak> and yes, in that case you do have to run makebootable manually[08:29:00] <DeadYak> only reason to go the dd route is for usb sticks really[08:29:50] <DHowett1> eh but can't you build right to them just like any other block device?[08:30:01] <DHowett1> probably more taxing on the media, actually..[08:30:01] <DeadYak> you could yeah[08:30:08] <DeadYak> probably faster to dd and less taxing though, yeah[08:30:20] <digitalteufel> I'm just using the very cool profile feature of the build system.[08:30:20] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[08:30:23] <Chowder> DeadYak: the reason that I asked about makebootable is because of a thread on the website[08:30:23] <DeadYak> since it's a one shot write instead of writing data and constantly modifying the FS btrees[08:30:37] <DHowett1> right :)[08:30:40] <DeadYak> Chowder: ah, which?[08:30:45] <Chowder> http://www.haiku-os.org/documents/dev/installing_haiku_to_a_partition_from_linux[08:30:51] <DeadYak> there can be some very misinformed people on there at times :)[08:30:57] * DeadYak looks[08:31:01] <digitalteufel> I think there is a newer article.[08:31:08] <DHowett1> I love those CD images somebody came up with for R1 Alpha1 :)[08:31:31] <digitalteufel> No, that's the one I'm thinking of.[08:31:48] *** stargater has joined #haiku[08:31:53] <Chowder> I'm a fan of trying out different OSs and new software[08:32:03] <DeadYak> Chowder: well, build system should just take care of it these days in any case[08:32:15] <digitalteufel> Chowder, you could try out Haiku with vmplayer.[08:32:15] <Chowder> ok[08:32:16] <DeadYak> just need to add a grub entry pointing to that partition but....[08:32:24] <Chowder> I use virtualbox[08:32:33] <DHowett1> for some reason, only GRUB1 works, and only with a certain syntax[08:33:02] <Chowder> DeadYak, it may be a compatibility issue between Linux and the BeFS[08:33:18] <DeadYak> shouldn't be, you're using Haiku's BFS code there[08:33:22] <DeadYak> it's not using the linux BFS driver[08:33:29] <Chowder> true[08:33:34] <Chowder> you sound like a developer[08:33:35] <stargater> moin[08:33:47] <DeadYak> Chowder: correct, albeit not the world's most active one lately[08:34:00] <Chowder> I'm trying to learn C++[08:34:33] <DeadYak> mm..got any other language experience?[08:34:37] <Chowder> BASH[08:34:43] <Chowder> but that's it[08:34:46] <DeadYak> besides shell scripts? :)[08:34:56] <DeadYak> hmm.[08:35:05] <Chowder> well, HTML[08:35:08] <DeadYak> couple of good books out there that make decent starting points[08:35:17] <DeadYak> well, I meant more programming languages[08:35:44] <Chowder> yea, I'm trying to decide between software engineering and nursing as a career[08:35:50] *** aphedox has quit IRC[08:35:59] <DeadYak> wow[08:35:59] <Chowder> I'm majoring in nursing and minoring in computer science[08:36:02] <DeadYak> compare and contrast[08:36:16] <Chowder> I just hate how everything revolves around windows[08:36:20] <DeadYak> if you don't mind me asking, how'd you decide on that combination?[08:36:38] <Chowder> well, that combination is a result of me being unable to make up my mind[08:36:43] <DeadYak> ah[08:37:00] <DeadYak> the CS courses you've taken so far haven't covered Java or anything like that?[08:37:27] <Chowder> I haven't taken any couses thus far[08:37:28] <pyCube_> Chowder: I have yet to run into a work situation where I *need* windows..call me lucky :-p[08:37:34] <Chowder> I've been really bsy with nursing[08:37:37] <digitalteufel> Chowder, so what happens when you try to boot?[08:37:45] <DeadYak> Chowder: ah[08:37:55] <Chowder> digitalteufel, still installing, tell you when it runs ;)[08:38:51] <Chowder> DeadYak, as of now, I'm 4 weeks away from becoming a surgical technologist. I figure that once I go back to college, I'll make up my mind at some point.[08:39:44] <digitalteufel> Chowder, just out of curiosity, how big is your hard drive and where is your Haiku partition located on it?[08:40:15] <Chowder> 80GB and it's on /dev/sda3[08:40:25] <digitalteufel> :([08:41:05] <DHowett1> Desktop or Laptop?[08:41:14] <Chowder> Desktop[08:41:37] <digitalteufel> I was curious to see if you could replicated a bug I had but your drive is too small.[08:43:14] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[08:43:52] <Chowder> :([08:48:27] *** aphedox has joined #haiku[08:55:24] <CIA-5> jackburton * r27260 /haiku/trunk/src/tools/fs_shell/file_map.cpp: fix the build[08:57:19] *** databridge has quit IRC[09:02:34] *** naaina has joined #haiku[09:03:13] <stargater> reboot[09:03:48] *** stargater has quit IRC[09:07:35] <digitalteufel> Does Haiku/BeOS have a split view control that can be resized? I can't find anything about it in the BeBook.[09:07:58] <DeadYak> built-in, no, though I think Santa's Gift Bag might[09:12:02] <digitalteufel> DeadYak, does Haiku have one? I understand it has some UI features that BeOS does not.[09:12:47] <DeadYak> no, hence why I just said, built-in, no[09:12:56] <DeadYak> the main thing Haiku has UI-wise that R5 doesn't is a layout engine[09:14:50] <digitalteufel> DeadYak, what about SplitView.cpp? I'm just taking a look at the interface kit source.[09:15:30] * DeadYak looks[09:15:42] * geist finally kills svn and moves his stuff to git[09:15:55] <DeadYak> geist: moving NewOS to git as well?[09:16:00] <geist> not sure about that yet[09:16:07] <geist> but might, yeah[09:16:11] <pyCube_> geist: jst curious...why?[09:16:16] <geist> because git > *[09:16:19] <digitalteufel> geist, Many people seem to be doing that now days.[09:16:53] <geist> once i got used to using it, i always feel really cramped so to speak with other systems[09:17:27] <pyCube_> in what way?[09:17:29] <digitalteufel> Think Haiku should switch?[09:17:48] <geist> only real trouble is the relatively high learning curve[09:17:55] <geist> it looks pretty confuing at first[09:18:19] <geist> and for large projects it really works best with a single maintainer[09:18:24] <geist> which is of course what it's designed for[09:18:28] <DeadYak> digitalteufel: and to answer your question, must've missed that once when the layout stuff was added, there's not really much in the way of docs on using it though[09:18:38] <geist> having craploads of folks push into a repo can probably be a little more problematic[09:19:12] <digitalteufel> DeadYak, it seems to be used in LayoutTest1[09:19:20] <DeadYak> right[09:19:29] <DeadYak> that's not really the same as full documentation though :)[09:21:07] *** thebolt is now known as thebolt|away[09:32:46] *** stargater has joined #haiku[09:32:46] <stargater> re[09:33:20] <Chowder> I'm now editing the UserBuildConfig[09:33:34] <Chowder> HAIKU_IMAGE_NAME = sda3 ;[09:33:35] <Chowder> HAIKU_IMAGE_DIR = /dev ;[09:33:43] <Chowder> what else should I put?[09:35:02] <stargater> Chowder have you look into the UserBuildConfig.Sample ?[09:35:07] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[09:35:26] <stargater> hi Ingenu[09:35:52] <Chowder> somewhat[09:36:34] <DeadYak> Chowder: HAIKU_DONT_CLEAR_IMAGE = 1 ;[09:38:25] <Chowder> ok[09:39:20] <digitalteufel> Chowder, You may want to add some optional packages.[09:39:59] <Chowder> here's what I have thus far[09:40:26] <Chowder> HAIKU_IMAGE_NAME = sda3 ;[09:40:26] <Chowder> HAIKU_IMAGE_DIR = /dev ;[09:40:26] <Chowder> # Add all available optional packages.[09:40:26] <Chowder> HAIKU_ADD_ALL_OPTIONAL_PACKAGES = 1 ;[09:40:26] <Chowder> # Add the libraries built with the alternative gcc version.[09:40:26] <Chowder> HAIKU_ADD_ALTERNATIVE_GCC_LIBS = 1 ;[09:40:28] <Chowder> HAIKU_DONT_CLEAR_IMAGE = 1 ;[09:40:52] <DeadYak> are you actually set up properly for using both cross compilers?[09:41:04] <digitalteufel> Chowder, did you actually build both compilers?[09:41:06] <DeadYak> add alternative gcc libs won't do anything if you don't have that set up properly[09:41:23] <Chowder> well, I built everything using gcc 4.x[09:41:37] <digitalteufel> :p[09:41:57] <Chowder> ./configure --build-cross-tools-gcc4 x86 ../buildtools/[09:41:57] <DeadYak> yeah, that tutorial on the page doesn't really set you up properly for alternate libs[09:42:09] <DeadYak> so you might want to comment that line out unless you feel like redoing your setup[09:42:39] <Chowder> what would I have to do differently?[09:42:54] <digitalteufel> I don't think the optional packages will work with a gcc 4.x build either.[09:43:07] <DeadYak> it involves running configure twice from separate subdirs and pointing them at each other[09:43:13] <DeadYak> I'd have to search to find that post again[09:43:30] <DeadYak> digitalteufel: there's a handful that have gcc4 versions available, but not many[09:43:53] <Chowder> screw that, I'll just comment that line out[09:44:39] <digitalteufel> Chowder, some of the optional packages still won't work if you do.[09:45:38] <Chowder> well what do the optional packages come with?[09:45:40] <digitalteufel> Right now most people just compile using gcc 2.95[09:47:01] <digitalteufel> ./configure --build-cross-tools ../buildtools/[09:48:05] <Chowder> i see[09:48:09] <digitalteufel> You'll have to recompile Haiku all over again though.[09:48:27] <Chowder> I'll just change one line in my script[09:48:31] <Chowder> http://haiku.pastebin.com/m5db2f12e[09:48:36] <Chowder> np[09:49:11] <digitalteufel> For now you could just try out your gcc 4.x build and not worry about the optional packages.[09:49:44] <Chowder> right, the main thing is to actually see if it runs[09:50:26] <digitalteufel> Why did you make a script for that stuff? :)[09:50:37] <digitalteufel> You only need to do most of that once.[09:50:53] <Chowder> mostly BASH experiments[09:52:27] <digitalteufel> Chowder, is it building?[09:52:42] <Chowder> I just ran jam -q[09:52:50] <Chowder> so yes, it's building[09:53:01] <Chowder> ...patience...[09:53:06] <Chowder> ...patience...[09:53:07] <Chowder> ...patience...[09:53:10] <Chowder> lol[10:01:52] *** AnEvilYak has quit IRC[10:05:47] <DeadYak> night guys[10:06:37] <Chowder> night[10:08:01] *** Yaroze has quit IRC[10:18:16] *** Barrett666 has joined #haiku[10:18:41] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[10:18:51] <CIA-5> jackburton * r27261 /haiku/trunk/src/tests/kits/game/chart/ChartWindow.cpp: fixed some warnings (gcc4)[10:18:52] *** Barrett666 has joined #haiku[10:31:10] *** genki has quit IRC[10:41:17] *** scottmc_ has joined #haiku[10:41:44] <stargater> cu[10:41:54] *** stargater has quit IRC[10:48:22] *** aphedox has quit IRC[10:50:56] *** DHowett1 has left #haiku[10:51:18] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[11:04:10] <CIA-5> stippi * r27262 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/aboutsystem/AboutSystem.cpp: (log message trimmed)[11:04:10] <CIA-5> First attempt at a more balanced Credits section:[11:04:10] <CIA-5> * Changed the copyright line to say "The Haiku project", similar to the GNU[11:04:10] <CIA-5> and BSD copyrights. Then a clarifying sentence as discussed on the developer[11:04:10] <CIA-5> mailing list.[11:04:11] <CIA-5> * Removed the outdated Team list in favor of a "Most influential developers"[11:04:15] <CIA-5> list with the top contributors of the past and the present in order of[11:10:53] *** Euver has joined #haiku[11:19:10] *** MegafEee has joined #Haiku[11:20:37] *** Jixt has joined #haiku[11:21:03] <Jixt> Hi[11:21:13] <Jixt> Begasus?[11:21:51] <Jixt> Begasus, you know something about PhotoGrabber 2.2 on Haikuware?[11:22:56] <Jixt> Hmm something is wrong on Haikuware :s[11:26:22] *** _maniac_ has joined #haiku[11:26:38] *** scottmc_ has quit IRC[11:28:27] *** Euver has quit IRC[11:29:12] <CIA-5> stippi * r27263 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/aboutsystem/ (HyperTextView.cpp HyperTextView.h): Display the hand cursor over clickable URLs and other HyperTextView actions.[11:30:43] *** MegafEee has quit IRC[11:58:39] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[12:01:09] * Begasus slaps DaaT !![12:01:11] <Begasus> hey there ;)[12:01:20] <Begasus> Jixt, any probs on Haikuware?[12:02:27] * Monni plops Begasus[12:02:34] <Begasus> klus*[12:02:39] <Begasus> goede middag ;)[12:02:50] <Monni> goede middag Begasus[12:03:22] <Begasus> link prob it seems Jixt[12:04:00] <Monni> Begasus: I finally managed to get Unizone running on Vista without hacks ;)[12:04:22] <Begasus> hacked Vista?[12:04:23] <Begasus> :P[12:04:24] *** JMReis has joined #haiku[12:05:26] <Monni> Begasus: It bitched about missing assembly and didn't want to install it...[12:08:58] <Begasus> gather you got it to install?[12:09:47] <Monni> Begasus: Had to download 2.1 GB archive and extract 594 kB file from it ;)[12:10:37] <Monni> Begasus: Can't simply run .exe files from temporary directories ;)[12:10:55] * DaaT slaps Begasus[12:10:59] <Begasus> :D[12:11:06] <Begasus> took you long enough!! :P[12:11:31] <DaaT> i know you like the antecipation[12:11:32] <DaaT> :D[12:11:36] <Begasus> hehe[12:11:37] <DaaT> how are you?[12:11:39] <Monni> Begasus: I have to use .msi and .msm files to install stuff on Vista...[12:11:49] <Begasus> not to bad here thnx ... an dyou?[12:11:55] <Begasus> and you* ;)[12:12:07] <DaaT> doing good[12:12:12] <DaaT> starting my vacation today[12:12:14] <DaaT> yay[12:12:27] <Begasus> enjoy it while it lasts ;)[12:12:31] <DaaT> yeah[12:12:42] <Monni> Mine still lasts until 14th September ;)[12:12:49] <Begasus> third week at home now (back probs) but doing ok now .. just a lower pain now ...[12:13:18] *** Euver has joined #haiku[12:13:29] <Begasus> oldest daughter is in the process of leaving home ... (rented a place of here own)[12:13:31] <DaaT> Begasus: hernia?[12:13:37] <Begasus> and one can't just sit at home doing nothing ;)[12:13:43] <DaaT> true true :)[12:13:45] <Begasus> nah DaaT luckyly not ;)[12:14:23] <Monni> Begasus: You know... we have a saying here... when one leaves home, you need to make new ;)[12:14:29] <Begasus> but I can imagine what people with hernia go through ... don't want to go through that the whole live ...[12:14:38] <Begasus> hehe Monni[12:14:46] <Begasus> got the dogs to cover for that ;)[12:15:05] <Monni> Begasus: My mom didn't like when I said that to her...[12:15:10] <DaaT> the dogs will make a new one? :P[12:15:12] <Begasus> rofl[12:15:18] <Begasus> that too DaaT ;)[12:15:23] <DaaT> :)[12:15:49] <Begasus> talking to an dutch guy for the first breed of the male dog here ....[12:15:52] <Monni> I actually have a picture of my cousing having threesome with a dog.... Pretty disgusting picture...[12:16:02] * Begasus shivers[12:17:00] <Monni> cousin got pretty pissed off when she heard I got my hands on her soft porn collection...[12:17:50] <Begasus> so you passed them on to your mother? ^^[12:18:00] <Begasus> tsss :P[12:18:58] <Monni> Begasus: Well... not just my mother... they're on Facebook ;)[12:19:43] <Begasus> rofl[12:19:54] <Begasus> so that's why you hang around ther that much :P[12:19:59] *** nokie has quit IRC[12:20:16] <Monni> Begasus: Well... I've known my cousin since she was few days old ;)[12:20:40] <DaaT> so you posted it to facebook? shame on you[12:20:43] *** Euver has quit IRC[12:21:31] <Monni> DaaT: Nah... I found the pictures on Facebook... Verified that they are genuine... My cousin has piercing inside her ear so it's pretty easy to check...[12:22:48] <DaaT> ahhh, she herself posted it... smart[12:22:49] <DaaT> :D[12:23:08] <Begasus> it's a family thing? 0_o[12:23:42] <Monni> Begasus: Nope...[12:24:36] <DaaT> lol[12:24:58] <Begasus> hehe[12:25:33] <Monni> Begasus: She's daughter of my mom's brother...[12:25:50] <Begasus> yeah .. told me some time this week Monni ;)[12:25:55] <Monni> Begasus: Family things run down from father to son, not mother to son ;)[12:26:32] <Monni> Begasus: Actually I said she was my mothers goddaughter ;)[12:27:09] <Begasus> close enough ;)[12:29:30] <Monni> Begasus: cousin got pissed off seriously when she heard she can't attend Confirmation, because her parents don't belong to church... so my mom handled it with our church...[12:31:29] <Begasus> Confirmation?[12:32:46] <Begasus> bbl[12:34:05] <Monni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation[12:34:46] *** JMReis has quit IRC[12:57:20] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[12:57:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[13:04:21] *** sprma has joined #haiku[13:15:29] *** aldeck has joined #Haiku[13:17:17] <aldeck> morning[13:21:41] <DaaT> hi[13:22:48] * DaaT borks mmu_man[13:22:54] <DaaT> mmu_man: sad about sg:a[13:31:47] *** SeAofSaRo has joined #haiku[13:35:25] *** Begasus has quit IRC[13:37:35] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[13:37:38] <mmu_man> plop[13:37:47] <mmu_man> DaaT yeah that sux[13:42:04] *** sprma has quit IRC[13:46:09] <geist> oh they finally cancelled it?[13:48:50] <Monni> lol[13:50:59] <Jixt> back[13:51:17] <Jixt> Begasus, I see PG 2.2 in the list :s[13:51:26] <Jixt> But it does not yet exist[13:51:46] *** TTUser has joined #haiku[13:52:44] *** TTUser has quit IRC[13:54:33] <DaaT> geist: aye[13:54:37] <DaaT> Jixt![13:57:46] <Jixt> hi DaaT[13:58:24] <DaaT> how's it going?[13:58:38] <Jixt> Good good and with you?[14:00:52] <DaaT> same[14:01:04] <DaaT> what have you been up to? still working on PG I see? :)[14:02:19] <Jixt> I've been away for some time yes. But Haiku has changed rapidly[14:02:25] <DaaT> yeah[14:02:39] <Jixt> So I'm now able to do some things for PG[14:02:53] <Jixt> Now my camera is recognized by Haiku ;)[14:03:07] <Jixt> I'm now working on a multigrid for PG[14:03:22] <DaaT> cool![14:03:43] <Jixt> :)[14:07:27] <Jixt> Version 2.2 will have multigrid[14:07:36] <DaaT> :)[14:07:42] <Jixt> It's now working for 95%[14:07:58] <Jixt> I still have some nasty bugs to get out[14:09:33] <digitalteufel> What's PG?[14:10:44] <Jixt> PhotoGrabber in short digitalteufel[14:11:20] <digitalteufel> Gotcha.[14:11:39] <Monni> PG = Parental Guidance ;)[14:12:09] <Jixt> lol Monni[14:12:38] <Monni> maybe it's PornGrabber too ;)[14:14:40] <Monni> brb... dinner time ;)[14:15:05] <digitalteufel> I'm having trouble thinking up a name for my Haiku Go client.[14:15:19] *** thebolt|away is now known as thebolt[14:15:20] <DaaT> GoHaiku?[14:15:21] <DaaT> :)[14:16:01] <digitalteufel> Only if I can't think of anything better :)[14:16:24] <aldeck> GoKu?[14:17:09] <Monni> just pick some random Japanese word ;)[14:17:54] <DaaT> as long as it's not bukkake[14:17:54] <HeTo> Haigo?[14:18:10] <digitalteufel> That probably is a Japanese word.[14:18:22] <aldeck> HaiGoKu[14:20:06] <Monni> Haigo could work as it's both Hai + go an Hai + igo ... igo = alternative spelling of Go in Japanese[14:23:45] <digitalteufel> Will "Hai" by the Haiku equivalent of Gnome and KDE programs starting with a 'g' or 'K'? :)[14:24:19] <Jixt> ok, dinner time[14:24:25] * Begasus pokes Jixt[14:24:28] <Begasus> re[14:24:59] <Monni> klus[14:25:44] *** Stefan100 has joined #haiku[14:25:52] <Monni> digitalteufel: Either "Hai" or just plain "H"[14:27:15] <Monni> just like BeOS had either "Be" or plain "B" ;)[14:27:25] <HeTo> now the Japanese would really like that[14:28:05] <aldeck> i honeslty don't like at all the gnome and kde prefixing trend[14:28:05] <HeTo> "get to all the H on the web using HBrowser!"[14:30:43] <Monni> what's really disturbing is Apple prefixing with "i"...[14:31:00] <digitalteufel> I started teaching myself German so maybe I could name it something in that language instead.[14:31:16] <aldeck> Monni: not really more disturbing[14:31:24] <Monni> well... Intel does software too...[14:32:14] <aldeck> ah, funny i never associated "i" with intel[14:32:59] <Monni> well... Intel processors are prefixed with "i", AMD processors have "K" prefix...[14:33:37] <aldeck> thats processor code names not application names[14:33:51] <Monni> I know... but same company ;)[14:34:08] <aldeck> yeah, but you said software ;-p[14:34:19] <Monni> I know that too...[14:34:32] <aldeck> hehe[14:34:49] <Monni> I said "software too" to be precise ;)[14:35:12] <aldeck> anyway naming apps should be either meaningfull or funny but prefixing by the ui toolkit has no purpose imho[14:36:03] <Monni> only if application is available using several incompatible toolkits...[14:36:42] <aldeck> not sure it matters to the user, devs can use code names if they want[14:37:16] <aldeck> i mean in an application menu it's just confusing[14:37:25] <Monni> VLC is damn good example of toolkit hell... can change toolkit at runtime ;)[14:38:20] <aldeck> ah didn't know! but at least they didnt rename it GnoKDVlC[14:38:46] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[14:38:58] <Monni> there's a few prefixed packages for vlc available on several Linux distros...[14:39:27] <digitalteufel> Why doesn't the Haiku VLC port or the MediaPlayer display the file position in a numerical format?[14:39:29] <Monni> I think mines wxvlc...[14:41:20] <digitalteufel> It's really annoying if you want to remember where in the audio/video file something is and go back to it later,[14:47:13] *** Ingenu_ has joined #Haiku[14:48:01] *** thebolt is now known as thebolt|away[14:52:11] *** fleximus has joined #haiku[14:53:42] *** Barrett666 has joined #haiku[14:56:42] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has quit IRC[14:57:02] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has joined #haiku[15:00:55] *** jrick has joined #haiku[15:01:07] *** miqlas has quit IRC[15:02:18] *** TheNerd has joined #haiku[15:03:48] *** DaaT has quit IRC[15:04:45] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[15:04:45] *** Ingenu_ is now known as Ingenu[15:08:46] *** j_ has joined #haiku[15:11:31] <CIA-5> julun * r27264 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):[15:11:31] <CIA-5> * implement julian day handling[15:11:31] <CIA-5> * more get/ set functions, operators[15:11:31] <CIA-5> * date until 1582 are handled in julian calendar[15:11:31] <CIA-5> * date above 1582 are handled in gregorian calendar[15:12:53] <Monni> dammit... some countries still use Julian calendar ;)[15:13:03] <CIA-5> sbenedetto * r27265 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/posix/xsi_message_queue.cpp: * Start implementing _kern_msgctl() syscall[15:16:15] <CIA-5> julun * r27266 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/shared/DateTime.cpp: * Month and Day should be used from the passed date[15:16:45] <mmu_man> cool, means if I travel back in time Haiku will still work :))[15:17:41] <mmu_man> digitalteufel in vlc on the display window just hit "t"[15:18:00] <mmu_man> and use ALT-left/right to seek[15:19:12] <digitalteufel> mmu_man, what about MediaPlayer? Why doesn't it show the time?[15:19:32] <mmu_man> dunno[15:19:35] <mmu_man> fix it :)[15:19:41] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[15:24:49] *** j has quit IRC[15:28:49] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[15:31:00] *** helf has joined #haiku[15:31:08] <helf> hi[15:39:43] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[15:40:29] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[15:44:47] * JonathanThompson launches ballistic furball at helf[15:45:23] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[15:45:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[15:46:41] <helf> hi jt[15:51:14] *** ThomHolwerda has joined #haiku[16:02:38] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has quit IRC[16:02:55] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[16:05:58] *** xenonsoft has joined #haiku[16:10:59] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[16:21:24] *** nulluser has joined #haiku[16:22:37] <ASmith42> Aaaah. How do I stop the BSnow replicant?! :P[16:24:17] <Monni> find the replicant handle ;)[16:24:21] <JonathanThompson> You grab a handful of it and make a BSnowball and throw it at the wall ;)[16:24:28] <Monni> lol[16:24:31] <ASmith42> lol[16:24:31] <HeTo> kill Tracker, remove settings file, restart Tracker at least used to be the only easy way IIRC[16:25:12] <digitalteufel> Why is that program even included?[16:25:22] *** xenonsoft is now known as xns_away[16:25:27] <ASmith42> OK. Yah. Forgot about the handle.[16:25:29] <JonathanThompson> Why does Windows come with Solitaire?[16:25:35] <ASmith42> Noticed it tucked away in the corner.[16:25:52] <ASmith42> Because it is a good game to learn how to use the mouse.[16:25:54] <Monni> JonathanThompson: Because people have to have something to do when things get really crawling ;)[16:26:09] <JonathanThompson> It's also used as a demo/teaching tool, ASmith42 .[16:26:28] <JonathanThompson> BSnow is that: a demo/teaching tool, and (though I've not seen it) perhaps slightly entertaining.[16:26:51] <JonathanThompson> Oh, and system test.[16:27:01] <ASmith42> Oh, I see. It was an analogy question. :P[16:27:10] <JonathanThompson> If you break a simple system-included app like that, you'll know right away ;)[16:27:18] <digitalteufel> It doesn't even look like snow.[16:27:20] <Monni> I remember once when Windows took 58 minutes to redraw screen... that was hilarious because I had enough time to watch whole episode on TV excluding ending credits...[16:27:21] <ASmith42> Well, BSnow certainly taught me a lesson.[16:27:30] <ASmith42> "Don't open BSnow"[16:27:49] <JonathanThompson> See? It has served its purpose: you learned something about Tracker and replicants![16:28:14] <ASmith42> Actually, I relearned. It has been a while. ;)[16:28:42] <JonathanThompson> You learned that you remembered that you forgot something that you learned ;)[16:28:47] <ASmith42> LOL[16:28:51] <ASmith42> Indeed.[16:28:52] <Monni> lol[16:29:23] * JonathanThompson loves blowing minds: did it to two people last night with game rules of something he created[16:31:11] <Monni> blowing is fun except blowing snow...[16:31:38] <JonathanThompson> The mind is the only body part you'll likely be able to blow without risking too much legal trouble ;)[16:31:51] <JonathanThompson> That is, unless the other party is a willing blowee.[16:32:41] * JonathanThompson wonders how many geometry teachers use circular logic with students[16:32:52] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[16:32:58] <JonathanThompson> Or trig teachers...[16:33:51] <Monni> blowing snow can cause air bubbles in blood stream, which isn't really healthy...[16:34:36] <JonathanThompson> Blowing seals can also be horribly unhealthy, since you don't know where they've been ;)[16:35:24] *** luroh has joined #haiku[16:35:56] <Monni> not to mention having one on one with dolphins...[16:36:14] *** _maniac_ has quit IRC[16:37:41] <Monni> I wonder why any of the adult sites haven't yet suggested threesome with them...[16:39:34] *** nulluser is now known as _maniac_[16:39:52] *** umccullough_x has joined #haiku[16:42:24] *** tqh has joined #haiku[16:42:39] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[16:43:41] <CIA-5> jackburton * r27267 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ServerPicture.cpp: Apply the same logic of r24682 to the drawing of BPictures inside BPictures. Fixes part of bug #1389 (drawing pictures at an offset). Thanks to Karsten for his observations![16:44:20] *** tqh has quit IRC[16:50:44] *** sprma has joined #haiku[16:51:39] *** Hugen_ has joined #haiku[16:51:46] <Hugen_> hi all[16:51:50] <Hugen_> Begasus: hi[16:52:00] <Begasus> hi Hugen_ ![16:52:07] <Hugen_> Begasus: where is PH 2.2?[16:52:08] <Begasus> how's it going ?[16:52:16] <Begasus> it wasn't released yet ;)[16:52:20] <Hugen_> good[16:52:22] <Hugen_> :)[16:52:31] <Begasus> was a bit to fast to post it ^^[16:52:50] <Begasus> but you can checkout the grid view when you compile from source in Haiku[16:52:54] <Hugen_> Begasus: sic, I uptade news :P[16:53:11] <Begasus> news?[16:54:59] <Hugen_> Begasus: http://www.haiku-os.pl/modules/news/article.php?storyid=525[16:55:03] <Hugen_> :P[16:55:37] <Begasus> ah .. sorry for the mixup ;)[16:56:52] <Hugen_> Begasus: no problem, give-away by work?[16:57:32] <Begasus> give away by work?[16:59:11] <Hugen_> ehh[17:00:26] <Hugen_> any problems with new PH??[17:03:35] <Hugen_> Begasus: :D[17:03:57] <Begasus> PG you mean?[17:04:06] <Begasus> Jixt, is ironing some bugs ;)[17:04:23] <Hugen_> Begasus: oh sorry, you are right[17:04:29] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:04:33] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[17:05:34] <Hugen_> Begasus: aha, but when is release PG 2.2?? :)[17:06:14] <Begasus> you'll have to ask Jixt Hugen_ ;)[17:07:00] <Hugen_> Begasus: oki, I will ;)[17:07:29] <Monni> Jixt needs to add few more bugs so he can justify making new release so soon ;)[17:07:48] <Hugen_> Jixy: when will new PG?? ;)[17:07:54] <Hugen_> Jixt: when will new PG?? ;)[17:08:04] <Hugen_> Monni: aha[17:09:33] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[17:13:49] <Jixt> Hugen_, I don't know yet[17:14:06] <Jixt> I hope somewhere this week.[17:15:21] <Teknomancer> hey Jixt[17:15:24] <Hugen_> Jixt: thx and good work[17:16:06] <Jixt> Hugen_, does your camera work with PG?[17:17:56] <Jixt> ok, brb[17:23:13] <Hugen_> Jixt: my digital camera was stolen, I can't use my web camera and camera in Sony Ericsson too, I'm waiting for better usb in Haiku :/[17:27:51] *** Chowder has quit IRC[17:31:42] <Hugen_> bye bye all[17:31:54] *** Hugen_ has quit IRC[17:35:34] *** Chowder has joined #haiku[17:43:36] *** tqh has quit IRC[17:55:44] *** fleximus has quit IRC[17:57:29] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[17:58:44] <Chowder> how do I build haiku so that I can use all the optional packages?[17:59:02] <helf> god, Kroc is so annoying[17:59:40] <Monni> Chowder: You just need to enable the option in UserBuildConfig[18:00:01] <Begasus> read up on the site ... should be some info and read the UserBuildConfig.Sample *.readme for more info[18:00:20] <Chowder> I have it enabled but I was told that I had to take others teps[18:00:23] <Chowder> *steps[18:01:38] <Chowder> I'm installing to a partition from Linux[18:01:44] <Chowder> here's my UserBuildConfig[18:01:45] <Chowder> HAIKU_IMAGE_NAME = sda3 ;[18:01:46] <Chowder> HAIKU_IMAGE_DIR = /dev ;[18:01:46] <Chowder> # Add all available optional packages.[18:01:46] <Chowder> HAIKU_ADD_ALL_OPTIONAL_PACKAGES = 1 ;[18:01:47] <Chowder> # Add the libraries built with the alternative gcc version.[18:01:49] <Chowder> HAIKU_ADD_ALTERNATIVE_GCC_LIBS = 1 ;[18:01:51] <Chowder> HAIKU_DONT_CLEAR_IMAGE = 1 ;[18:02:36] <Monni> well.. only thing left is the GPL stuff I guess...[18:03:01] <Begasus> IIRC the alternative gcc libs are needed when you build for gcc4? correct me if I'm wrong here[18:04:05] <Chowder> I usually build with gcc4[18:04:11] <Monni> they're for hybrid builds...[18:04:13] <Begasus> # AddOptionalHaikuImagePackages APR APR-util Beam Bleutooth Development Firefox Links OpenSound OpenSSH OpenSSL Pe Perl Subversion Vision VLC WonderBrush ;[18:04:31] <Monni> Begasus: You have typo there ;)[18:04:38] <Begasus> those are some of the optional packages I'm usualy building with (OpenSound not always)[18:04:45] <Begasus> figures Monni ;)[18:05:09] <Monni> Bleutooh -> Bluetooth ;)[18:05:25] <Begasus> # Available Optional Packages:[18:05:25] <Begasus> AddOptionalHaikuImagePackages[18:05:25] <Begasus> APR[18:05:25] <Begasus> APR-util[18:05:25] <Begasus> Beam[18:05:26] <Begasus> Bluetooth[18:05:28] <Begasus> etc ... ;)[18:05:42] <Begasus> the above line is just a sum I added ;)[18:06:11] <Monni> whatever ;)[18:06:14] <Begasus> :P[18:06:16] <Chowder> HAIKU_ADD_ALL_OPTIONAL_PACKAGES = 1 ;[18:06:23] <Chowder> won't that do the same thing?[18:06:28] <umccullough_x> Chowder, don't add OpenSound unless you really need it[18:06:55] <umccullough_x> if used in conjunction with a native sound driver, it could cause a crash when playing sound[18:07:01] <Begasus> Monni, you got a typo also :P[18:07:05] <Monni> AFAIK there is bug in repository version of Bluetooth install rules... urnenfeld has been lazy fixing that...[18:07:15] <Monni> Begasus: I know...[18:07:16] <Chowder> I haven't been able to get Haiku to boot period[18:07:29] <umccullough_x> Chowder, why do you want ALL optional packages out of curiosity?[18:07:56] <Chowder> idk, I just figured it'd be nice to have more apps[18:08:02] <Chowder> or can I just add them later on?[18:08:07] <Monni> Begasus: It's almost like my grandparents claiming Emmerdale is cheese ;)[18:08:24] <Begasus> hhe[18:08:45] <umccullough_x> you can download and unzip whatever :) - i recommend at least Development, Vision, and Firefox (although the firefox package is older)[18:08:57] <umccullough_x> VLC is nice too[18:09:02] <umccullough_x> oh, and Pe[18:09:15] <umccullough_x> Begasus, there is also CVS btw[18:09:23] <Begasus> there is umccullough ?[18:09:28] <umccullough_x> yep, optional package[18:09:30] *** databridge has joined #haiku[18:09:33] <Begasus> they should update the sample file more often ;)[18:09:38] <Monni> lol[18:09:46] <umccullough_x> just read the OptionalPackages file :/[18:10:02] <Begasus> can't read through all the email listings thuroughly ;)[18:10:21] <Monni> one file to read is one too many :)[18:10:23] <Begasus> ah ![18:10:25] <Begasus> my bad ;)[18:11:30] <Monni> reading half of the text is better than not reading at all :)[18:11:42] <Begasus> OpenSSH isn't in that file yet umccullough ;)[18:11:45] <Begasus> hi umccullough btw ;)[18:12:08] <umccullough_x> Begasus, it's in there, just not hte list at top :P[18:12:16] <umccullough_x> hi also, btw :)[18:12:16] <Begasus> ow ..[18:12:23] <Begasus> bugger .. cought again :P[18:12:49] <umccullough_x> yeah, submit a patch![18:13:04] <Begasus> rofl[18:13:16] <umccullough_x> maybe later i'll submit one if i remember - but honestly, i only remember when you complain about it :D[18:13:58] <Chowder> what is the Beam package?[18:14:09] <umccullough_x> an alternative mail client[18:14:12] <Monni> prehistoric mail client ;)[18:14:21] <Begasus> lol umccullough[18:14:23] <Chowder> eeew, I hate mail programs[18:14:29] <Begasus> it's a great one !![18:14:32] <umccullough_x> haiku comes with a built-in one anyway[18:14:41] <Begasus> still use it here (when running ZETA) :P[18:14:50] <Monni> real geeks just telnet to mail server and read and reply stuff online...[18:15:04] <Chowder> no, I hate mail programs in general, lol[18:15:09] <umccullough_x> doesn't "Perl" get installed with Development automatically?[18:15:11] <Begasus> but then again .. we don't post soft pr0n on facebook Monni :P[18:15:17] <umccullough_x> i think it does...[18:15:28] <Monni> Begasus: Well.. That was my cousin, not me ;)[18:15:34] <umccullough_x> yep, it does[18:15:36] <Begasus> only one way to find out umccullough ;)[18:15:45] <umccullough_x> it's listed in OptionalPackages as a dependency[18:16:04] <umccullough_x> same with OpenSSL, it's a dep for OpenSSH and Subversion already[18:16:09] <CIA-5> sbenedetto * r27268 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/posix/xsi_semaphore.cpp: (log message trimmed)[18:16:09] <CIA-5> * Fix a potential race condition when deleting a semaphore set: previously only[18:16:09] <CIA-5> the ipc hash table lock along with the semaphore set hash table lock were[18:16:09] <CIA-5> hold, thinking (wrongly) that the semaphore set lock itself was not needed.[18:16:09] <CIA-5> What could happen was that another process on semop could have gained the lock[18:16:09] <CIA-5> of the set itself, and then release the semaphore set hash table lock.[18:16:12] <CIA-5> This would make it think that the set was still valid, while it could have[18:16:14] <Monni> Begasus: Did you see the picture of my dev team in Facebook :)[18:16:44] <Begasus> no Monni .. haven't been online in Facebook for a while again ....[18:16:55] * umccullough_x watches his wife bleeding a turkey in the back yard[18:16:58] <umccullough_x> ick[18:17:01] <Monni> Begasus: Bummer... You did miss seriously funny picture...[18:17:09] <Begasus> :P[18:17:19] <Begasus> bleeding a turkey umccullough ?[18:17:25] <umccullough_x> as in, slaughtering[18:17:29] <Begasus> ah[18:17:34] <umccullough_x> it's hanging upside down from the tree ATM[18:17:40] <Begasus> lol[18:17:53] <umccullough_x> the other one is already plucked in my kitchen sink :/[18:17:55] <Begasus> sorry for all the turkey lovers ;)[18:17:58] <Chowder> so how's this?[18:18:01] <Chowder> AddOptionalHaikuImagePackages[18:18:02] <Chowder> APR[18:18:02] <Chowder> APR-util[18:18:02] <Chowder> Development[18:18:02] <Chowder> Firefox[18:18:02] <Begasus> hehe[18:18:02] <Chowder> Subversion[18:18:04] <Chowder> Vision[18:18:06] <Chowder> VLC[18:18:08] <Chowder> WonderBrush ;[18:18:19] <umccullough_x> Chowder, looks reasonable :)[18:18:21] <Monni> Begasus: http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v329/159/62/770725561/n770725561_3987990_4281.jpg[18:18:25] <umccullough_x> if you want CVS, add it also[18:18:40] <Begasus> lol Monni[18:18:45] <Begasus> always handy ;)[18:18:54] <Begasus> tuxpaint still uses cvs ...[18:19:06] *** MauriceK has joined #haiku[18:19:12] <Monni> Begasus: That's only 94 cm but looks seriously disturbing...[18:19:15] <MauriceK> hey[18:19:21] <Begasus> hi MauriceK ![18:19:42] <umccullough_x> Chowder, add Pe also[18:19:47] <MauriceK> damn it... weather feels like world is going under[18:19:53] <Monni> Begasus: I should ask for one that is 200 cm or so ;)[18:19:57] <umccullough_x> good if you wanna edit code files or anything[18:20:21] <Chowder> what is Pe?[18:20:24] <Begasus> UnzipArchiveToHaikuImage[18:20:24] <Begasus> : $(HAIKU_TOP)/../misc/scummvm-0.11.1-beos.zip[18:20:24] <Begasus> ;[18:20:24] <Begasus> UnzipArchiveToHaikuImage home/downloads/games[18:20:24] <Begasus> : $(HAIKU_TOP)/../misc/Simon.zip[18:20:24] <Begasus> ;[18:20:35] <umccullough_x> Chowder, programming editor[18:20:35] <Begasus> always nice to add some personal stuff ;)[18:20:44] <Begasus> thnx for the pointers in that regard umccullough :D[18:20:49] <umccullough_x> yup ;)[18:20:49] <Begasus> that bad MauriceK ?[18:21:09] <umccullough_x> Chowder, it's a GUI editor written for beos, ported to Haiku[18:21:18] <Chowder> nice[18:21:25] <umccullough_x> as in, a gui-based text editor[18:21:30] <Begasus> even for nothing else .. it's a great text editor[18:21:33] * umccullough_x always forgets to make that distinction[18:22:30] <MauriceK> Begasus: incredibly much rain, thunderstrikes, basically everything which is needed[18:22:42] <MauriceK> and I have to get out in around half an hour to get to my gf :([18:23:00] <umccullough_x> only problem with Pe in Haiku is the damn "find" dialog box[18:23:02] <Begasus> sun is still shining here ... probly wont happen today if you ask me MauriceK ;)[18:24:08] <MauriceK> Begasus: I assumed that it actually came from your area, but I'm not sure[18:24:23] <Begasus> nah .. been nice here all day[18:24:53] <Begasus> dogs have been playing outside the whole day[18:25:04] <Begasus> sleeping atm ;)[18:26:15] *** ddqd has joined #haiku[18:27:07] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[18:27:29] <Chowder> when you guys compile do u use gcc 2.95 or 4.x?[18:28:36] <Monni> neither ;)[18:28:41] <umccullough_x> 2.95.3 here[18:28:56] <Monni> I think mine's 2.95.3 too[18:29:23] <Chowder> HAIKU_IMAGE_NAME = sda3 ;[18:29:23] <Chowder> HAIKU_IMAGE_DIR = /dev ;[18:29:23] <Chowder> # Add all available optional packages.[18:29:23] <Chowder> # HAIKU_ADD_ALL_OPTIONAL_PACKAGES = 1 ;[18:29:23] <Chowder> # Add optional packages[18:29:24] <Chowder> AddOptionalHaikuImagePackages[18:29:26] <Chowder> APR[18:29:30] <Chowder> APR-util[18:29:32] <Chowder> Development[18:29:34] <Chowder> Firefox[18:29:36] <Chowder> Subversion[18:29:38] <Chowder> Vision[18:29:40] <Chowder> VLC[18:29:42] <Chowder> CVS[18:29:44] <Chowder> Pe[18:29:46] <Chowder> WonderBrush ;[18:29:48] <Chowder> # Add the libraries built with the alternative gcc version.[18:29:50] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[18:29:50] <Chowder> #HAIKU_ADD_ALTERNATIVE_GCC_LIBS = 1 ;[18:29:52] <Chowder> HAIKU_DONT_CLEAR_IMAGE = 1 ;[18:29:54] <Chowder> that's my UserBuildConfig[18:30:08] <umccullough_x> i would actually swap from using image name/dir to using a buildprofile[18:30:18] <Chowder> how do you do that?[18:30:20] <umccullough_x> then you can jam -q @disk[18:30:25] <umccullough_x> see UserBuildConfig.readme[18:30:37] <umccullough_x> hang on, i'll post you my example from this laptop[18:30:41] <Chowder> kk[18:32:21] <umccullough_x> http://pastebin.com/d7373ba5a[18:32:36] <umccullough_x> you'll see i have a @disk and an @usbdisk profile at the top[18:32:55] <umccullough_x> that way if i want to build to a usb disk mounted on /dev/sdb, i just run jam -q @usbdisk[18:33:08] <umccullough_x> also with build profiles, you can use jam -q @disk update-all[18:33:11] <umccullough_x> which is nice[18:33:36] * umccullough_x wonders if Begasus knows these tricks yet ;)[18:33:47] <Chowder> interesting[18:33:52] <Monni> update-all still doesn't work for me ;)[18:34:01] <Monni> doesn't update optional packages...[18:34:18] <umccullough_x> Monni, that's true[18:34:23] <umccullough_x> but it wasn't designed to[18:34:39] <umccullough_x> it updates all targets built from the haiku tree (except bluetooth i guess)[18:34:43] <Begasus> I'll keep it at the level I'm at for the time being umccullough ... when needed I'll poke you again ;)[18:35:04] <Chowder> http://pastebin.com/m68259638[18:35:11] <Chowder> that's my UserBuildConfig[18:35:14] <Monni> umccullough: what's really funny is that plain "update" does update optional packages ;)[18:35:45] <umccullough_x> Chowder, you can comment out the HAIKU_IMAGE_NAME/DIR now :)[18:35:52] <Chowder> ok[18:35:57] *** j_ is now known as j[18:35:58] <umccullough_x> that way you can also jam -q @image to create haiku.image in the generated dir still[18:36:14] <umccullough_x> @image is automatically understood as a build-profile[18:36:39] <umccullough_x> although, i recommend setting HAIKU_IMAGE_SIZE to something larger if you use that with all those optional packages[18:36:48] <Chowder> I'm installing directly to a partition, the procedure is still the same, right?[18:36:56] <Begasus> yeah .. 512 isn't working for me anymore ;)[18:37:11] <Chowder> I'm not making a disk image, just installing it all to a partition[18:37:16] <umccullough_x> Chowder, if you use @disk for your build profile, it will go straight to the partition you set[18:37:35] <umccullough_x> make sure to chmod your /dev/sda and /dev/sda3 before building[18:37:44] <umccullough_x> that way you don't have to use sudo to jam[18:38:31] <Chowder> right[18:38:41] <umccullough_x> i usually use sudo chmod o+r /dev/sda ; sudo chmod o+rw /dev/sda3[18:38:49] <Chowder> well, I'm doing it as root[18:38:53] <Chowder> so does it really matter?[18:38:59] <umccullough_x> just dangerous ;)[18:39:08] *** Euver has joined #haiku[18:39:09] <Chowder> just a root terminal[18:39:25] <Chowder> I'm not running as root[18:39:40] <umccullough_x> but it will have access to wipe your entire disk if something goes wrong :D[18:39:59] <umccullough_x> not that it should...but ... well you know ;)[18:40:06] <Chowder> i doubt that will happen[18:40:08] <Chowder> lol[18:40:21] *** bSON has joined #haiku[18:40:25] <bSON> hi[18:40:31] <Chowder> my working directory is the one where my haiku partition is mounted[18:40:38] <Chowder> so it's all happening there[18:40:39] <bSON> is anybody successfully using any icq client on haiku?[18:42:25] <Monni> I was going to try CenterICQ on Haiku... had it running on BeOS few years ago...[18:44:54] <bSON> Monni: problem seems to be that the clients all seem to be outdated (there were some minor changes to the protocol AFAIK)[18:45:50] <Monni> bSON: Well... a lot of clients use same library with different GUI ;)[18:46:39] <umccullough_x> anyhow, time to jet, ttyl[18:46:43] <bSON> Monni: yeaah :) currently trying to build libicq2000, but constantly running into problems[18:46:45] <Monni> same with jabber clients... a few use purple library...[18:46:48] <umccullough_x> good luck Chowder :)[18:46:51] <Chowder> ty[18:46:57] *** umccullough_x has quit IRC[18:47:22] <bSON> Monni: having purple would be great, but this would mean pulling glib etc in[18:48:20] <Monni> bSON: I had glib already for one of my other projects... it wasn't such a big deal...[18:49:57] <Begasus> how's progress on im_kit on Haiku?[18:50:03] <Begasus> any updates there?[18:50:48] <bSON> Monni: hmm.. wouldn't be a candidate for inclusion into haiku though i'm afraid[18:51:01] <Chowder> it would be nice to have Pidgin ported to haiku[18:51:19] <Monni> bSON: I don't care much about what Haiku includes... I just build stuff I use myself...[18:51:45] <bSON> Begasus: last i read was: http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/mmu_man/2008-02-25/update_on_work_done_at_fosdem_usb_webcam_im_kit[18:52:18] <Monni> Begasus: I think there was preliminary work done, but atleast on my installation it crashed hard...[18:52:22] <bSON> Monni: fair enough, but i was envisioning something that could be part of haiku. like im kit[18:53:02] <Monni> bSON: AFAIK im kit has license issues with Haiku...[18:53:04] <Begasus> most of the elimentary work should be covered by im_kit I presume ...[18:53:17] <Begasus> im_kit doesn't have to be part of Haiku ;)[18:53:33] <Begasus> it's not like it's connected afaik[18:54:37] <bSON> doesn't have to. but some kind of out-of-the-box IM capabilities in haiku would be real sweet[18:55:03] <bSON> (where in haiku = included in haiku default distribution)[18:55:38] <Monni> I would avoid GPL'd stuff like plague... a few IM protocol libraries are under GPL[18:56:04] <Begasus> once you start to include 3th party apps/libs in Haiku as a distribution you'll be bound to license isseus ...[18:56:30] <bSON> GPL or LGPL? the latter is no problem IMO[18:56:31] <Begasus> deppends on how they want to/if at all integrate them ...[18:56:44] <Monni> some GPL libraries are almost impossible to avoid, but rest should be avoided...[18:57:48] *** thotypous has quit IRC[18:57:54] <bSON> Monni: do you mean GPL or Lesser GPL? non-GPL code cannot link to GPL libraries, that would be a real problem (but they can to LGPL libs)[18:58:27] <Monni> bSON: I mean GPL like I said...[18:58:51] <bSON> Monni: so im kit is GPL?[18:59:03] *** xns_away has quit IRC[18:59:22] <Monni> bSON: Part of it is under GPL, so the viral effect makes rest of it too...[19:00:14] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[19:00:42] <bSON> not necessarily, if they are not linked[19:01:20] <Monni> bSON: AFAIK there is two versions, one has GPL'd stuff removed and one has it included... smaller version lacks few protocols because of that...[19:03:17] *** leszek has joined #haiku[19:03:34] <leszek> hi[19:03:46] *** sprma_ has joined #haiku[19:04:23] <bSON> yeah libyahoo2 seems to be GPL[19:05:28] <bSON> i wonder why the LGPL'd libicq2000 dependency was removed in the non-GPl version. that seems like pure politics to me[19:05:59] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:06:16] <Monni> maybe one of the indirect dependencies is under GPL... as LGPL'd code can be linked against GPL'd code...[19:08:02] <bSON> that wouldn't make any sense at all, the LGPL terms would be useless then (or the indirect linking is no GPL violation)[19:09:30] <Monni> none of GNU licenses really make sense ;)[19:10:54] <bSON> a matter of taste ;) but i also like MIT better[19:11:12] <Monni> MIT doesn't really exist ;)[19:11:26] *** M_199 is now known as Master199[19:11:41] <Monni> MIT used several licenses AFAIK[19:11:54] <bSON> MIT/X11 to be exact[19:12:19] <bSON> OSI entitles it "The MIT License"[19:12:21] *** sprma has quit IRC[19:12:39] <Monni> OSI isn't primary source :)[19:14:14] <bSON> it's mine, in unknowledge of the "real" source ;)[19:14:41] <Monni> if GNU is source of all evil, Eris is source of the opposite ;)[19:16:26] <bSON> hehe[19:16:56] <Monni> Eris being eris.berkeley.edu[19:17:57] <bSON> i actually don't have anything against GNU or FSF, even if i don't agree with them in some points[19:19:05] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[19:27:46] <Monni> I don't have anything against anyone... I make fun of myself too...[19:29:40] <bSON> ah ok ;)[19:30:13] <Monni> "Monni" is fish species ;)[19:30:27] *** ThomHolwerda has quit IRC[19:32:30] <Monni> one of my favourite self-quotes is "How can anyone take seriously person who has 'Puff the Magic Dragon' as ringtone?"[19:36:41] <bSON> true words ;)[19:39:29] <Monni> I have punk rock version of it that has lyrics "Time of play ends, to work boys set".... One of my favourite phrases ever...[19:41:04] <Begasus> bbl[19:42:29] *** Jixt has left #haiku[19:50:08] <CIA-5> laplace * r27269 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/deskbar/ (TimeView.cpp TimeView.h): Added menu item "Show Calendar ..." to time pop up menu.[19:52:36] *** korli has joined #haiku[19:52:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[20:07:46] *** MYOB has joined #haiku[20:13:15] *** Master199 has quit IRC[20:15:51] *** bSON has quit IRC[20:16:12] <Chowder> http://www.lolwut.com/pics/mouse.jpg[20:16:17] <Chowder> anyone ever seen that mouse?[20:18:32] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[20:22:47] <leszek> re[20:24:55] *** j is now known as J[20:25:28] *** paul0 has joined #haiku[20:27:20] *** MYOB has quit IRC[20:33:38] *** _maniac_ has quit IRC[20:35:08] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[20:35:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[20:37:13] <CIA-5> korli * r27270 /haiku/trunk/headers/os/interface/InterfaceDefs.h: space cleanup[20:37:27] *** oco has joined #haiku[20:42:43] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[20:46:13] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[20:46:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[20:46:54] *** siarzhuk has joined #haiku[20:50:54] *** J is now known as j[21:01:42] *** ThomHolwerda has joined #haiku[21:01:56] * ThomHolwerda waves[21:02:07] * DeadYak pets ThomHolwerda[21:02:29] * ThomHolwerda pets DeadYak[21:02:38] <ThomHolwerda> installign windows xp on my aspire one netbook[21:02:46] *** MYOB has joined #haiku[21:02:46] <ThomHolwerda> from usb drive :/[21:02:51] <DeadYak> ouch[21:03:19] <ThomHolwerda> yeah turns out that's rather complicated, heh[21:03:24] <ThomHolwerda> almost done though[21:03:51] <DeadYak> I was going to say, hope you have a few sandwiches for while it copies files[21:04:06] <ThomHolwerda> it's 21:03 here, so i was watching tv[21:04:22] <ThomHolwerda> it's in the final 10 "minutes"[21:04:26] <ThomHolwerda> as in, xp installation minutes[21:04:30] <ThomHolwerda> which can mean anything[21:12:02] <Begasus> re[21:12:08] <Monni-> klus[21:12:24] <Begasus> kwebbel[21:12:31] <Monni-> plop[21:13:51] <Begasus> lui[21:14:28] <Monni-> local Ubuntu mirror is seriously outdated... still thinks gutsy is latest[21:17:27] <Begasus> you could try to dist-upgrade? ;)[21:17:44] <Monni-> that usually kills the installation ;)[21:19:51] <Begasus> reason enough to install new then :P[21:20:26] <Monni-> usually I do normal "upgrade" and then add missing dependencies manually...[21:33:50] <CIA-5> anevilyak * r27271 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/MenuBar.cpp: (log message trimmed)[21:33:50] <CIA-5> I hate to add another special case, but with the way the BMenu* classes are[21:33:50] <CIA-5> designed, I see little in the way of alternatives. If we're a BMenuField's menu[21:33:50] <CIA-5> bar, then we should invoke the menu item regardless of where in the bar we[21:33:50] <CIA-5> click. This problem was visible in ticket #1877, where basically you could click[21:33:50] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[21:33:52] <CIA-5> only on the portion with text, because that was the size of the menu item, where[21:33:54] <CIA-5> the rest of the contained menu bar was considered dead space. Thus we now check[21:36:28] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[21:36:39] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[21:37:08] <miqlas> Hello![21:37:23] <CIA-5> korli * r27272 /haiku/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): added fpclassifyl[21:37:39] *** stargater has joined #haiku[21:38:13] <stargater> hi[21:39:31] <miqlas> I made this today: http://noob.hu/07/0901/Kepernyőkep.png[21:39:40] <DeadYak> nice domain[21:40:14] <miqlas> This is an huungarian image share page.[21:40:18] <DeadYak> oh[21:40:25] <miqlas> i only use it.. but this is not my domain.[21:43:01] <Stalwart> Chowder: this is microsoft gaming mouse =P[21:44:03] *** stippi has joined #haiku[21:44:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[21:44:26] <CIA-5> marcusoverhagen * r27273 /haiku/trunk/build/config_headers/tracing_config.h: Preparing support for ATA and ATAPI tracing[21:45:15] *** oco has quit IRC[21:45:16] <Begasus> hi stippi ! .. stepped away from code for a sec? ;)[21:46:04] <Begasus> bbl[21:46:18] <stippi> Aehm... haven't been exactly coding much today[21:46:22] <stippi> you caught me there[21:47:18] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[21:48:18] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[21:48:26] *** Jixt has joined #haiku[21:48:44] <Jixt> re[21:50:14] *** ThomHolwerda has quit IRC[21:50:32] <miqlas> re![21:53:44] *** xcasex[work] has joined #haiku[21:54:14] <xcasex[work]> if i donated three tyan tiger based amd athlon mp boxes would those be put to good use for the project?[21:54:32] *** paul0 has quit IRC[21:54:55] <CIA-5> korli * r27274 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/glibc/arch/ (generic/e_gammal_r.c generic/e_lgammal_r.c x86/Jamfile): added gammal_r and lgammal_r private functions[21:55:05] <DeadYak> athlon mp? like the old ones?[21:55:16] <xcasex[work]> the 1.66Ghz ones.[21:57:50] *** VinDuv has joined #haiku[21:57:57] *** j has quit IRC[21:58:13] *** ThomHolwerda has joined #haiku[22:01:26] *** siarzhuk has quit IRC[22:04:03] <mmu_man> plop[22:05:36] <CIA-5> korli * r27275 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/glibc/libio/Jamfile: added getwchar and iofgetws[22:09:42] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:12:13] <CIA-5> anevilyak * r27276 /haiku/trunk/headers/os/interface/CardLayout.h: Just noticed this file was using CR/LF newlines...[22:16:38] <Jixt> anyone who knows to do double buffering? Any article about it?[22:17:16] <DeadYak> Jixt: add a view to a BBitmap and draw into the bitmap using the view, then draw the bitmap onto a visible view[22:17:59] <Jixt> Thx DeadYak, without knowing I did double buffering :)[22:18:18] <DeadYak> np[22:18:30] <DeadYak> brb[22:18:49] <CIA-5> korli * r27277 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/glibc/wctype/ (Jamfile towctrans.c): added towctrans[22:18:49] *** ozy` has quit IRC[22:24:55] *** aldeck has quit IRC[22:26:40] <CIA-5> korli * r27278 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/glibc/stdlib/Jamfile: added random_r.c[22:27:33] <CIA-5> stippi * r27279 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/aboutsystem/AboutSystem.cpp: (log message trimmed)[22:27:33] <CIA-5> Sorry, but another fix was needed. The previous list of most influential[22:27:33] <CIA-5> developers was based on the oloh results, but these go only 3 years back. The[22:27:33] <CIA-5> SVN revision history is much more complete and contains also the CVS history[22:27:33] <CIA-5> apart from a screw up at revision 10. However, I was able to obtain a much[22:27:35] <CIA-5> more correct list now and so some resorting was due. According to these stats,[22:27:37] <CIA-5> Michael Lotz would not appear in the list - however, I feel he should be[22:32:16] *** Master199 has quit IRC[22:39:20] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[22:40:47] *** xspager has joined #haiku[22:42:29] *** Euver has quit IRC[22:42:33] <CIA-5> stippi * r27280 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/aboutsystem/AboutSystem.cpp:[22:42:33] <CIA-5> Removed Jorge again by his own request. I completely forgot why Jorge was not[22:42:33] <CIA-5> in the list and thought it was an oversight. Sorry.[22:43:50] *** VinDuv has quit IRC[22:44:02] *** AnEvilYak has joined #haiku[22:44:08] *** lorglas has quit IRC[22:47:30] <luroh> meh, i say list him under "no credit is given to the following individuals:"[22:47:36] <stargater> re[22:47:42] <luroh> (i kid, i kid!)[22:48:05] <stargater> hi stippi[22:49:22] <stippi> hi[22:49:24] <dr_evil> luroh that wont work to get yourself in[22:50:00] <luroh> hehe, darn :p[22:50:51] <stippi> luroh: Are you the guy from NZ?[22:51:06] *** Jixt has quit IRC[22:51:32] <luroh> stippi: nope, sweden[22:51:40] <stippi> ah, ok[22:51:42] <luroh> (currently turkey though)[22:52:02] <stippi> oh, do you plan to come to BeGeistert then, if you're from Europe?[22:53:09] <luroh> it's tempting, but i think i would feel a tad misplaced[22:53:22] <luroh> but then again, i've felt misplaced before :)[22:53:26] <stippi> It's for Fans too! :-)[22:54:20] <DeadYak> I was going to say, BG was always about the users/fans[22:54:26] <luroh> it would be interesting to see people actually using haiku for actual stuff[22:54:32] <DeadYak> I'd go but a plane ticket to germany's a tad expensive :/[22:54:33] <stippi> yep! Especially the fans and users[22:54:35] <luroh> since i'm not a former beos user[22:55:03] <stippi> but we all owe you a beer still for figuring out what was wrong with trac![22:55:13] <luroh> haha[22:55:22] <luroh> ok, i'll check my schedule then ;)[22:55:26] <stippi> you made our lives less miserable[22:55:37] <DeadYak> ah, the spider thing?[22:56:29] <stippi> yep[22:56:46] <DeadYak> yeah, that did suck :) nice catch there[22:56:54] <stargater> spider blanker is verry cool[22:58:14] <stippi> stargater: you're confused... :-) Spider Blanker is be me...[22:59:30] <stargater> yes :-) i know[23:00:06] <stargater> you are a coder god[23:07:48] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:09:28] *** sprma_ has quit IRC[23:12:15] * dr_evil makes a first attempt a ata kernel tracing[23:13:08] <DeadYak> dr_evil: cool :)[23:15:11] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[23:15:37] *** oco has quit IRC[23:17:30] *** leszek has quit IRC[23:18:05] *** Stalwart has quit IRC[23:18:20] *** korli has quit IRC[23:18:26] *** korli has joined #haiku[23:18:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o korli[23:18:39] *** Begasus has quit IRC[23:19:03] <dr_evil> doesn't seem to work. don't know why :/[23:20:09] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[23:20:17] <DeadYak> dr_evil: no entries showing up in traced?[23:20:38] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[23:20:43] *** thotypous has joined #haiku[23:21:56] *** Barrett666 has quit IRC[23:22:10] <dr_evil> correct[23:22:29] <dr_evil> I never implemented kernel tracing so far, probably somtihgn is wrong[23:22:34] *** Barrett666 has joined #haiku[23:25:44] <CIA-5> marcusoverhagen * r27281 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/bus_managers/ata/ (Jamfile ata_tracing.cpp ata_tracing.h): ATA kernel tracing functions.[23:26:46] <CIA-5> marcusoverhagen * r27282 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/bus_managers/ata/ata.c: Use kernel tracing feature. Doesn't seem to work, don't know why.[23:27:18] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[23:35:17] *** wildur has quit IRC[23:37:20] <dr_evil> tracing of ata doesn't work, output is empty. see here: http://nopaste.org/p/aziDmES2d[23:37:47] <dr_evil> if anyone knows whats wrong, please fix or send me a mail. going to sleep now, night everyone[23:38:14] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[23:39:55] *** xspager has quit IRC[23:43:24] *** anarchos has joined #haiku[23:49:17] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[23:54:27] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[23:54:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[23:55:35] *** Malmis_ has quit IRC[23:56:06] *** Malmis has joined #Haiku[23:59:54] *** aldeck has joined #Haiku