October 24, 2007 
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October 24, 2007 [00:00:08] <mmu_man> yes but it's a 2liner[00:00:17] <DeadYak> nice[00:00:27] <DeadYak> when you get it booting, take a picture :)[00:00:30] <mmu_man> the kernel starts ciompiling but there are lots of ppc or x86 code I copied that I must fix[00:06:28] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[00:07:01] *** nielx has quit IRC[00:10:39] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:11:58] *** Purposeless has quit IRC[00:12:51] <Styrbjorn> agh wicked linux problem, grub crashes if i reboot the computer with the "reboot" command in bash :P[00:13:09] <Styrbjorn> the only way of rebooting is to do a cold-reboot[00:13:15] <Styrbjorn> bleh[00:13:29] <MrSunshine> wtf :P[00:14:03] <Styrbjorn> im pretty much clueless on what the problem is :P[00:15:45] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[00:16:02] <pyCube> not sure if thats a 'linux' problem[00:18:46] *** kr1stof has left #haiku[00:18:54] <MrSunshine> corrupted disk ?[00:19:07] *** Purposeless has joined #haiku[00:19:10] <MrSunshine> so if it scleanly unmounted it fails :P[00:19:10] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[00:19:45] <Purposeless> is there a webmaster email for haiku-os.org? Gavin James 'is not accepting emails'. This is a bit of a problem...[00:22:13] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[00:23:03] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[00:30:19] <MrSunshine> why does haiku feel like such a mess :P[00:30:24] <MrSunshine> for some reason[00:30:40] <Styrbjorn> becouse it's not finished yet?[00:31:21] <MrSunshine> well the code over all feels like a mess in some way :)[00:31:42] <MrSunshine> mix of unix libraries and homebrew code :P[00:32:14] <MrSunshine> ohh well atleast its cleaner then linux and windows :P[00:35:32] <Purposeless> It is?[00:38:16] *** emitrax has quit IRC[00:41:05] *** emitrax_ has quit IRC[00:43:06] <TuneTracker> kokito[00:43:17] <kokito> hi TuneTracker[00:43:36] <kokito> TuneTracker, where are you located?[00:43:42] *** brycegroff has joined #haiku[00:48:31] *** Euver has quit IRC[00:49:43] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[00:49:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[00:50:28] * kokito takes channel operator status from Sikosis[00:51:51] <Sikosis> you wish jelly fish[00:52:42] <brycegroff> does anyone know if it is necessary to have the /buildutils/branches section of the tree to build the linux cross-compiler?[00:59:34] *** Purposeless has quit IRC[01:01:58] <DeadYak> brycegroff: no, just buildtools/trunk[01:02:29] <brycegroff> could the branch section be removed from the tree with no implications[01:03:13] <DeadYak> what, did you just svn co all of buildtools?[01:04:06] *** aldeck has joined #haiku[01:04:17] *** petterhj- has joined #haiku[01:05:39] <brycegroff> yeah[01:05:52] <DeadYak> then yeah, just rm -rf branches[01:05:54] <brycegroff> I took the whole trunk[01:05:57] *** oco has quit IRC[01:06:02] <brycegroff> ok could the branches be removed[01:06:04] <DeadYak> all you need to svn co is haiku/haiku/trunk and haiku/buildtools/trunk[01:06:24] <DeadYak> from the repository? why?[01:06:27] <DeadYak> it's used by the devs[01:06:31] <DeadYak> that's how svn handles branch/merging[01:06:42] <DeadYak> hence why you're only supposed to checkout the trunk subdirs[01:09:24] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[01:10:05] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[01:12:30] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[01:14:54] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[01:15:14] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[01:15:38] *** wildur has quit IRC[01:18:34] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[01:20:39] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[01:20:54] <brycegroff> I see[01:21:08] <brycegroff> I was just wondering if it was used by people[01:21:15] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[01:21:18] <DeadYak> it is, that's a quirk of subversion[01:21:22] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[01:21:42] <DeadYak> the branches are visible to everybody instead of just whoever created the branch[01:21:42] <brycegroff> right on, thanks[01:21:46] <DeadYak> it uses the same mechanism for tagging[01:21:59] <brycegroff> yeah[01:22:16] *** petterhj has quit IRC[01:22:19] <DeadYak> so yeah, delete the rest and just do your svn ups from trunk/ in the future[01:22:44] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[01:23:45] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[01:26:32] *** frodobeg25 has quit IRC[01:30:19] <brycegroff> DeadYak: do you build on linux?[01:42:49] *** DaaT has quit IRC[01:49:53] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[02:03:00] *** flyinghippo has quit IRC[02:06:17] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[02:10:17] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[02:10:24] <mmu_man> headers/build/os/storage/Statable.h:34: warning: ‘class BStatable’ has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor[02:10:55] <mmu_man> anyone thinking about fixing it ? (hmm might be an issue for R5 compatibility though[02:13:51] *** piepsi has quit IRC[02:15:50] *** flyinghippo has joined #haiku[02:19:30] *** flyinghippo|AWAY has joined #haiku[02:26:27] *** frodobeg25 has joined #haiku[02:26:54] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[02:31:07] *** flyinghippo|AWAY has quit IRC[02:33:30] <DeadYak> mmu_man: I think that's R5 compat specific, could be wrong[02:33:50] <DeadYak> mmu_man: though...does virtual d'tor affect FBC? since it doesn't mean the same thing as a normal d'tor[02:33:55] <DeadYak> err[02:33:58] <DeadYak> as a normal virtual[02:36:44] <mmu_man> yes setting it as virtual will conssume one slot[02:36:45] *** pyCube has quit IRC[02:36:51] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[02:37:28] *** acidx has joined #haiku[02:37:35] <DeadYak> mmu_man: ah[02:37:49] <DeadYak> I thought virtual ~ just reverses the order the d'tors are called in?[02:38:12] <mmu_man> maybe but it will put it in the vtable[02:38:16] <DeadYak> ah[02:38:35] * DeadYak grabs R5 Devtools to check header[02:38:53] *** flyinghippo|AWAY has joined #haiku[02:39:05] *** brycegroff has quit IRC[02:39:07] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[02:39:29] *** flyinghippo has quit IRC[02:43:11] <DeadYak> mmu_man: R5's Statable.h doesn't declare a ctor or dtor at all[02:43:34] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[02:45:51] <mmu_man> it probably makes an implicit non-virtual one[02:49:18] <DeadYak> right[03:03:00] *** flyinghippo|AWAY has quit IRC[03:04:22] *** stargater has quit IRC[03:12:20] *** acidx has quit IRC[03:22:21] <tombhadAC> everytime i try to build the cross-compilers for haiku i get this error http://nopaste.info/38aea6ad2f.html :([03:27:39] <tombhadAC> can anybody help me?[03:33:04] <mmu_man> WARNING: `makeinfo' is missing on your system.[03:33:06] <mmu_man> :)[03:34:02] <tombhadAC> makeinfo is on my system :([03:34:23] <tombhadAC> [tombhad@amdAC source]$ makeinfo[03:34:25] <tombhadAC> makeinfo: Datei-Angabe fehlt.[03:34:26] <tombhadAC> „makeinfo --help“ gibt weitere Informationen.[03:35:23] <tombhadAC> [tombhad@amdAC source]$ makeinfo --version[03:35:24] <tombhadAC> makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.11[03:37:24] <mmu_man> /* * Copyright-o-rama! */[03:37:25] <mmu_man> lol[03:37:27] *** Judgen has joined #haiku[03:37:48] <mmu_man> tombhadAC: I succeeded with svn -r<some older rev>[03:37:51] <mmu_man> for ppc[03:38:00] <mmu_man> don't remember if it was the same pb[03:40:05] <Judgen> i wish there was a diver for rtl8168...[03:40:16] <Judgen> im mad...[03:40:37] <Judgen> because fo the medication[03:40:46] <Judgen> im soffr[03:40:51] <Judgen> y[03:41:48] <Judgen> i cant walk. my legs are down[03:42:07] <Judgen> butg im hungry..[03:43:31] <Judgen> i should shut up[03:58:33] <Judgen> noone likes to talk to me, that for sure[04:00:59] <mmu_man> hmm you dont need to walk to code :)[04:02:40] * JonathanThompson breaks Judgen's legs so he can code more[04:02:40] <Judgen> hello mmu_man[04:02:56] <mmu_man> plop :)[04:03:03] <mmu_man> ok I should sleep now :)[04:03:16] <Judgen> my lovely french friend =)[04:03:32] <DeadYak> night mmu :)[04:03:39] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[04:04:05] * JonathanThompson loves finding bad hacks in code at work that explain mulitple bugs in one swoop[04:04:13] <DeadYak> dare I ask?[04:04:54] <Judgen> JonathanThompson: ive coded anough fror and thus i have to rest[04:05:49] *** aldeck has quit IRC[04:06:11] <JonathanThompson> I'll give a general description to avoid breaking NDA: stuff that should be managed in a separate data object because it's only kept during the session, is tracked in the permanent object list, and thus has led to some problems with properly cleaning stuff up, and also leading to the restore database functionality not reproducing an exact copy of the permanent database.[04:06:43] <DeadYak> nice[04:06:59] <Judgen> im bug searching for the VMWARE memory leak at the moment.. It WILL kill me[04:07:02] <JonathanThompson> Thus, something that should be automatic and easy to do, requires manual cleanup by deleting files afterwards, and that's a large number of HUGE files :P[04:07:49] <JonathanThompson> And of course, that means that all database backups previously created simply can't be verified against log files and have a clean result.[04:08:03] <DeadYak> VMWare memory leak?[04:08:04] <JonathanThompson> Always fun, having phantom data records :P[04:08:46] <Judgen> when i die, i want allmy possetions to be owned by haiku..[04:09:05] <Judgen> ive allready set it up[04:09:41] * JonathanThompson gets scared about how Judgen thinks[04:09:53] <JonathanThompson> When are you offing yourself, Judgen?[04:10:00] <Judgen> i will die soon[04:10:15] <JonathanThompson> Self-inflicted, disease process, or otherwise?[04:10:50] <Judgen> or , the doctors thinkso[04:11:21] *** cyrann has joined #haiku[04:11:27] <Judgen> i wonder what i more pleasent for me[04:12:32] <Judgen> who cares... ill keep on doing what i do[04:12:53] <Judgen> untill illdie =)[04:14:23] <Judgen> if you find a cure for deep trombolytics please let me know[04:15:04] <AlienSoldier> head transplant cure lot of disease[04:15:25] <AlienSoldier> not so good for brain tumor[04:15:31] <Judgen> AlienSoldier: nah afaik it ju prolong it[04:15:46] <Judgen> as its in my blood[04:17:46] <Judgen> ´and every time i get treatmen it hurts like hell...[04:18:47] <Judgen> blood cancer is a bithch[04:19:14] <AlienSoldier> being sick suck, don't think i'm gonna die but my back hurt a lot since 1 month[04:19:37] <Judgen> oh[04:19:55] <Judgen> how come?[04:20:00] <AlienSoldier> stupid accident i got this sping is comming back to haunt me[04:20:36] <Judgen> whar kibnd of accident?[04:20:47] <Judgen> excure my spelling[04:20:54] <Judgen> DAMN[04:20:57] <AlienSoldier> steped in a hole of 4 inch carring a bucket of stone of 70 lbs on my shoulder[04:21:07] <Judgen> i cant spell anything right[04:22:19] <Judgen> AlienSoldier: i dont know what a 4feet ot a 70 lbs means but it sounds heavy =P[04:22:24] <AlienSoldier> i might recover, or i might stay that way forever[04:23:06] <Judgen> i hope you recvoer[04:23:17] <AlienSoldier> about 10 centimeter and 30Kilo[04:23:43] <Judgen> darn[04:23:54] <Judgen> that would hurt alolt[04:24:19] <AlienSoldier> it happened while all my articulation were aligned, so the vertebra took all the shock[04:24:42] <AlienSoldier> i probably have a crunched disk[04:25:06] <Judgen> AlienSoldier: now even sadder[04:25:18] <AlienSoldier> well, not impossible i recover[04:25:52] <AlienSoldier> i guess it would help if i sleep like batman :)[04:26:25] <AlienSoldier> and by that i don't mean sleeping in spoon with Robin :P[04:27:10] <tombhadAC> :D[04:34:39] <Judgen> hehe[04:35:06] <Judgen> AlienSoldier: youre a hoot[04:36:42] <Judgen> im listening to "govindea hare" accidetally ..meybe i need to die[04:37:19] <Judgen> I refuse to die yet[04:37:49] <Judgen> my upper body still works.[04:39:44] <Judgen> AlienSoldier: how does batman sleap??[04:40:29] <AlienSoldier> head upside down straped by the boot[04:40:44] <Judgen> why?[04:41:34] <Judgen> he si a normal guy with no powers[04:42:05] <AlienSoldier> i guess it's to heal better, but you might see sado mazo and other gay joke in it if you like :)[04:43:09] <Judgen> i kinda liked prowler and electro of the marwel universe[04:43:15] <AlienSoldier> then there is thos water tank used to help spine recovery, and no is is not starwars scifi :)[04:44:50] <Judgen> amazing gradce almost sound lie a hindu song when krhishna das sing it[04:45:21] <Judgen> like*[04:46:58] <Judgen> i wish i am reborn in a way that i wont suffer.[04:47:31] <AlienSoldier> like Darkman?[04:48:59] <Judgen> darkman will get his punishment/reward in my belief[04:49:37] <Judgen> he will be rebon like all ofus[04:51:15] <Judgen> the only way to escape the wheel of life is to become perfedt[04:51:36] <AlienSoldier> some kid born today might acually never die if we think in 80 year life advancement might be perfected to beyond the beyon[04:52:16] *** DC1 has joined #haiku[04:52:35] <AlienSoldier> well, i'm quite zen myslef, i guess i might be there in 2 or 3 more iteration :)[04:53:14] <Judgen> 80 years is nohthing. a life i nothing[04:53:37] <Judgen> timewidese[04:55:33] <Judgen> my life is nothing. all life is ending,,,,[04:55:55] <Judgen> we all die over and over,[04:57:25] <AlienSoldier> well, many will get closer to that philosophy now that job security is a thing of the past, a new live (job) each day :)[04:57:32] <AlienSoldier> *life[04:57:43] <Judgen> beeng a perfect alignment the earth will sustain life[04:58:18] <Judgen> even if were about to die[04:58:42] <Judgen> and we are, eventually[04:59:59] <Judgen> human kind is one of ananta´s plans. and if not. Im lost[05:01:59] <Judgen> eventually it will die and so will all of us[05:02:39] <Judgen> oil is nothing for anata.[05:03:30] <Judgen> but eventually we will all die....'[05:04:10] <Judgen> thus im not afraid to die[05:04:35] <Judgen> and u night die soob[05:04:40] <Judgen> soon[05:05:09] <AlienSoldier> it's not to be afraid or not usually the problem, is't just like we are kid and our mother want us to go to bed and we say "yes mom, just another 5 minutes" :)[05:05:49] <Judgen> the pain. Wants me to go to bed now[05:06:27] <AlienSoldier> keep the moral high man[05:06:36] <Judgen> but maybe ill need to suffer for years for what i did in my previous life.[05:08:13] <Judgen> i dont know what i did... but it had to be horrible[05:09:19] <Judgen> pain as they say, is the only universal language,,,,,,ä[05:13:21] <Judgen> JonathanThompson: why would i br "offing ''' my self when nature is so close to do it,[05:15:31] <Judgen> fighting nature is futie... when nature dies, -we ll die?[05:17:57] *** pyCube has quit IRC[05:17:59] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[05:18:49] *** Judgen has quit IRC[05:32:59] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[06:13:38] *** DC1 has quit IRC[06:16:10] *** koki_haiku has joined #haiku[06:17:46] *** koki_haiku has quit IRC[06:30:12] *** procton_ has joined #haiku[06:33:35] *** procton has quit IRC[06:39:23] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[06:39:44] *** kad77 has quit IRC[06:40:24] *** kad77 has joined #haiku[06:51:37] *** DeadYak has quit IRC[06:56:51] *** koki_haiku has joined #haiku[06:58:16] *** brycegroff has joined #haiku[07:02:18] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[07:14:26] *** kad77 is now known as kad77_[07:15:00] * JonathanThompson lobs an off-tune F# at kad77_[07:15:51] *** kad77_ is now known as kad77[07:18:42] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[07:18:44] *** pyCube__ has joined #haiku[07:20:21] *** koki_haiku has quit IRC[07:23:27] *** frodobeg86 has joined #haiku[07:24:47] *** brycegroff has quit IRC[07:26:34] *** brycegroff has joined #haiku[07:32:01] *** tic has quit IRC[07:32:30] *** mats has quit IRC[07:36:46] *** tic has joined #haiku[07:39:04] *** frodobeg25 has quit IRC[07:45:07] *** brycegroff has quit IRC[07:47:09] *** brycegroff has joined #haiku[07:49:14] *** alpha-li1n is now known as alpha-lion[08:06:40] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[08:07:21] <Begasus> morning peeps[08:11:11] * JonathanThompson lobs an off-tune F# at Begasus[08:12:12] * Begasus plugs his ears ...[08:15:19] <JonathanThompson> Stretch any cats for me lately, Begasus, or have you kept all of them for yourself?[08:15:36] *** kokito has quit IRC[08:16:10] <Begasus> going to the dogs here JonathanThompson[08:16:38] <Begasus> http://www.flickr.com/photos/begasus/1656850965/[08:16:42] <Begasus> upcomming ;)[08:20:57] *** SprMa has quit IRC[08:22:48] * JonathanThompson lobs Begasus a super-duper-pooper-scooper and a supply of plastic bags[08:23:21] *** brycegroff has quit IRC[08:26:03] <Begasus> we've got a big yard here .. but thnx for the bags ;)[08:26:32] <Begasus> first one is actually doing pretty fine already ...[08:26:44] <JonathanThompson> Perhaps what you need is a Roomba modified to scoop them up and transport the presents to a compost pile :)[08:27:15] <Begasus> ;)[08:27:24] * JonathanThompson suspects there'd be a large market for that, if the price were right[08:27:40] *** brycegroff has joined #haiku[08:28:09] <JonathanThompson> Of course, getting it perfect would require going though a lot of dog sh!t in the process.[08:34:57] <Begasus> counting 4 dogs ... yep[08:36:34] <JonathanThompson> I wonder, if the Haiku source code were instead sent to a list server instead of an SVN server used by many other projects, if it'd be more responsive when trying to get code dumps.[08:38:46] * JonathanThompson goes to bed or at least to the couch[08:39:31] <Begasus> g'night[08:45:53] <brycegroff> has anyone had success build xres on mac os x[08:48:35] *** kokito has joined #haiku[08:52:38] *** rhu has quit IRC[09:06:52] *** brycegroff has quit IRC[09:08:43] *** brycegroff has joined #haiku[09:12:48] *** JBurton has joined #haiku[09:12:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o JBurton[09:12:53] <JBurton> hi[09:16:31] <MrSunshine> yo[09:17:40] <MrSunshine> humm i wish i knew what the problem with haiku booting on laptop is ... seems to be while it enumerates the ide disks etc it locks but dont know realy[09:19:15] <MrSunshine> in linux i need some silicon or something extra driver for sata to work ... but dont know what one of them .. there are two :P[09:19:19] <MrSunshine> and ive enabled them both[09:21:20] *** brycegroff has quit IRC[09:34:42] <kokito> hello JBurton[09:35:05] <JBurton> hey kokito![09:35:10] <MrSunshine> if i only had serial output :/[09:35:29] <MrSunshine> cant you make usb stick logging for kernel ? ;)[09:36:06] <kokito> buona notte JBurton :P[09:37:20] <JBurton> kokito are you leaving or ? :)[09:37:36] <JBurton> MrSunshine "you" who ? :)[09:38:06] <JBurton> bug mmu_man about that, MrSunshine :)[09:38:18] <kokito> JBurton, yes, I am going to sleep now. it's past midnight here :)[09:38:19] <MrSunshine> :P[09:39:05] *** NeonLicht has quit IRC[09:39:38] <kokito> good night folks[09:39:41] *** kokito has quit IRC[09:40:19] <JBurton> nite[09:40:20] <JBurton> ops[09:40:23] <JBurton> already left[09:43:00] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[09:48:52] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:54:47] *** NeonLicht has joined #haiku[10:00:11] <JBurton> Haiku Bought By Google, Some Fear Privacy Issues <http://rss.slashdot.org/%7Er/Slashdot/slashdot/%7E3/173901210/article.pl>[10:00:38] *** DmitryM has joined #haiku[10:05:58] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[10:19:46] *** brycegroff has joined #haiku[10:21:36] <brycegroff> has anyone successfully build haiku on mac os x[10:26:41] <JBurton> yes[10:27:14] <JBurton> not on a hfs partition though. I mean, I don't know the details, but you need a case sensitive filesystem[10:29:45] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[10:30:15] <brycegroff> yeah, I just noticed that there is a part of the readme that explains the dependancy's[10:30:23] * JonathanThompson slaps JBurton silly[10:32:18] <JonathanThompson> JBurton, if you have to ask why I slapped you silly, I'll have to slap you sillier yet :P[10:35:12] *** rhu has joined #haiku[10:36:38] <JBurton> eheheheheehehehe[10:36:54] <JonathanThompson> I trust you know why, eh? :)[10:36:55] <JBurton> I hope it's for the link I pasted[10:37:04] <JonathanThompson> It's related....[10:37:20] <JonathanThompson> Not that the link itself was "bad" so much as what you typed was mislieading...[10:37:27] <JBurton> of course[10:37:28] <JBurton> :P[10:37:45] <JBurton> well actually someone else made that joke on me[10:37:50] * JonathanThompson hands JBurton a salmon and a trout (for him to choose) to slap himself with[10:37:57] <JBurton> so I thought I shouldn't be the only one to suffer :P[10:38:03] <JBurton> hmmm salmon[10:38:08] <JonathanThompson> Very tasty.[10:38:11] <JBurton> indeed[10:38:13] <JonathanThompson> Also very good for the heart.[10:38:36] <JonathanThompson> And I now live in an area where they're fished naturally as well as farmed.[10:38:41] <JBurton> wow[10:39:16] <JBurton> I like it especially as appetizer[10:39:19] <JonathanThompson> One of the movie theatres before the regular movie actually has a bit about making sure you don't pollute streams because the salmon would suffer.[10:39:22] <JBurton> on crusty bread[10:39:25] <JBurton> with butter[10:39:35] <JBurton> oh[10:39:52] *** brycegroff has quit IRC[10:39:52] <JonathanThompson> I've actually seen the location of a salmon hatchery in the state.[10:39:55] <pyCube__> seafood should be bette rin SF than here in az[10:40:00] <pyCube__> heh[10:40:15] * JonathanThompson hands pyCube__ a bat to beat around letters and spaces correctly[10:56:18] *** Begasus has quit IRC[11:03:02] <JBurton> az ?[11:03:06] <JBurton> pyCube__ ?[11:03:13] <JBurton> arizona ?[11:17:31] <Ingenu> hey JonathanThompson : what do you think about that : http://pastebin.org/5809 ?[11:22:45] *** franxico has joined #haiku[11:23:15] <franxico> go Haiku![11:23:43] <franxico> mmu_man will change the world with his last commit lol[11:27:06] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[11:30:51] <pyCube__> JBurton: yes.. arizona[11:32:42] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[11:34:21] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[11:38:16] <mmu_man> plop[11:46:25] *** kad77 has quit IRC[11:48:49] *** AlexC has joined #haiku[11:58:15] *** waveshaper has quit IRC[12:03:25] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[12:03:39] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[12:16:46] <franxico> mmu_man, howdy[12:16:50] <franxico> do you have a 68k?[12:19:48] <PulkoMandy> :)[12:20:24] <mmu_man> Mac LC III[12:21:39] <franxico> wow 25MHz ![12:21:53] <mmu_man> :)[12:22:42] <franxico> =)[12:24:08] <AlexC> i like choclate[12:24:18] <AlexC> chocolate*[12:25:33] <franxico> ?[12:26:29] <franxico> http://www.histoire-apple.com/lcIII.html[12:28:33] * franxico is chocolic[12:28:46] <franxico> chocoholic[12:28:53] <PulkoMandy> http://www.histoire-apple.com/lcII.html i have this one :)[12:29:17] <franxico> 16MHz![12:29:58] <PulkoMandy> http://www.histoire-apple.com/630.html and 3 or 4 like this[12:30:01] <PulkoMandy> :)[12:31:03] <franxico> cool, color screen :D[12:32:12] <franxico> anyway... lunch![12:32:14] <franxico> seeya[12:32:48] *** franxico has quit IRC[12:34:17] *** SprMa has quit IRC[12:34:43] <JBurton> mmu_man er, really or you'r joking ? :)[12:35:08] <JBurton> I thought you had an amiga[12:49:54] <MrSunshine> man it was stupid to write up the exercise program :P[12:50:04] <MrSunshine> now i can see how freakin many things i have to do :P[13:01:33] *** AlexC has quit IRC[13:01:59] <mmu_man> JBurton: no, really, with a portrait display[13:02:06] <mmu_man> I wish I had an amiga :)[13:02:26] * IcePic still has one.[13:05:11] <JBurton> O_o[13:05:45] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[13:08:14] *** Styrbjorn has quit IRC[13:08:34] *** Styrbjorn has joined #haiku[13:09:16] <waveshaper> Amiga 500? recommend ebay fast then. before I buy the rest :p[13:10:15] *** absabs has joined #haiku[13:14:50] *** mmu_laptop has joined #haiku[13:14:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_laptop[13:15:34] <JBurton> bye all[13:15:53] *** JBurton has quit IRC[13:20:02] *** stippi has joined #haiku[13:20:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[13:28:44] *** stippi has quit IRC[13:29:12] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[13:29:53] *** SprMa has left #haiku[13:31:33] *** mmu_laptop has quit IRC[13:42:38] *** emitrax has quit IRC[13:46:13] <mmu_man> ok the build libs seems to compile ok[13:47:28] *** rdmr has joined #haiku[13:58:05] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[14:11:24] *** rdmr has quit IRC[14:15:41] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[14:17:47] *** absabs has quit IRC[14:31:32] *** DeadYak has joined #haiku[14:34:47] <TuneTracker> waveshaper Did you buy an A500 from ebay?[14:36:04] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[14:38:21] <waveshaper> mhm. Ive got a small collection :)[14:43:50] <TuneTracker> waveshaper I have one A500 here, with matching monitor and hard drive. Still works great.[14:44:44] <waveshaper> cool :) I didnt have the heart to let them go in the garbage. so when lots of my friends started throwing them away I collected them. and then I couldnt stop[14:45:05] <TuneTracker> :-)[14:45:08] <waveshaper> Ive got 1x a500 that works and a a600 with a HD working well to[14:45:40] <TuneTracker> I know the feeling...how do you throw away a still-living piece of history? :-)[14:45:55] <waveshaper> but the most remarkable found Ive done was a commodore that was soaked in water. at the time I worked for a big electronic production company where they have all sorts of nice equipment. so the c64 got the best resurrection ever :)[14:46:27] <TuneTracker> Baptised and resurrected![14:46:30] <waveshaper> the part that needed to be fixed was mostly condensators. so I swapped them and some keys that had some broken connections[14:46:33] <waveshaper> indeed :)[14:46:48] <waveshaper> and it works :)[14:46:54] * TuneTracker got a LOT of use out of C64s[14:47:08] <TuneTracker> I also had a C128, which I loved for doing word processing, because it had 80 characters[14:47:27] <TuneTracker> And the 1571 drive, which was much quicker than the 1541, which I really liked.[14:47:37] <waveshaper> I have 1 c128 but its the desktop version. called c128D ofcourse :p[14:47:58] <waveshaper> oh nice. I havent got a working diskdrive though.[14:48:28] <TuneTracker> The only one of them I still have is the A500.[14:48:47] <TuneTracker> My son grew up with it, and he keeps it in his little studio for old times sake.[14:49:17] <waveshaper> sounds like a healthy and good way to grow up :)[14:50:18] <waveshaper> the amiga definitly inspired me to think the way I do today. apart from the fact that I love trackers which makes it obvious. but I think more importantly the way software ran on amiga[14:51:02] <TuneTracker> I would have loved to have had a more sophisticated version of workbench than 1.3.[14:51:40] <waveshaper> hmmmm[14:51:55] <TuneTracker> 1.3 was ok, but it always felt a little...hmm...primitive...to me.[14:52:07] <waveshaper> Ive got a wb2.0 on the amiga600 but not much more then that[14:52:40] <TuneTracker> Oh, that's right...I do think I got 2.0 come to think of it. It's been a long time![14:53:22] <TuneTracker> My favorite part of workbench was the layers. You could pull a screen down, and there was another screen underneath...cool![14:54:18] <waveshaper> multitasking :)[14:54:42] <waveshaper> I still miss that feeling in Windows. well, that is why Im here. because BeOS did just that[14:55:10] <waveshaper> by that I mean simply, nonblocking gui[14:55:36] <TuneTracker> waveshaper Do you program?[14:56:01] <waveshaper> indeed I do[14:56:17] <TuneTracker> waveshaper what kind of things do you like to code?[14:56:29] <waveshaper> audio mostly[14:56:31] <waveshaper> mixers etc[14:56:50] <waveshaper> done some module players etc. but this was some time ago[14:57:13] <TuneTracker> waveshaper Happy news indeed. Have you tried coding any audio stuff for BeOS?[14:57:52] <waveshaper> na. never got to that point. but will :)[14:58:04] <TuneTracker> Good! We can use more audio programmers![14:58:38] <TuneTracker> Maybe sometime you can plug into the media kit part of Haiku.;[14:59:36] <TuneTracker> bbiab[15:00:36] <waveshaper> mediakit, I want to yes. but Im afraid of promising and then not have the time to deliver[15:44:48] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[15:46:37] *** emitrax has quit IRC[15:47:23] *** meisje has joined #haiku[15:49:05] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[15:56:43] * DeadYak plops[16:07:17] *** meisje has quit IRC[16:22:16] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[16:25:15] <MrSunshine> dr_evil, seems that my chip halts when it enumerates the IDE and all that stuff when booting haiku on laptop .. :)[16:25:19] <MrSunshine> but i have no serial output :/[16:25:32] <MrSunshine> finds something sata with support 0.3 ?[16:27:34] <dr_evil> you can try to remove the ide bus manager[16:29:01] <mmu_man> who needs ide anyway :)[16:29:03] <MrSunshine> how? :)[16:30:38] <dr_evil> either delte it or dont add it[16:30:53] <MrSunshine> how do i not add it then ? :P[16:32:12] <dr_evil> somewhere in /build/jam/HaikuImage[16:33:12] <MrSunshine> humm[16:33:39] <TuneTracker> mmu_man I'm updating lebuzz... anything new on OSS front?[16:36:18] <mmu_man> not much sorry[16:36:24] <mmu_man> busy with m68k port[16:41:19] *** kad77 has joined #haiku[16:49:05] *** stippi has joined #haiku[16:49:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[17:02:57] <mmu_man> re[17:03:27] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[17:07:06] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[17:09:21] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[17:23:17] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[17:27:37] *** lorglas has quit IRC[17:30:32] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[17:32:21] *** pyCube__ has quit IRC[17:32:23] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[17:33:19] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[17:45:00] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[17:50:30] *** frodobeg86 has quit IRC[17:59:37] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[17:59:53] *** kokito has joined #haiku[18:01:14] <Negr0> i knows some one if it is posible to write a attribute to a folder? if i do it an list the attribute in the terminal with listatrr i see them. But if i try to read the values of the attributes with a BNode object and the ReadAttr method i just get nothing[18:01:49] <Negr0> knows some one what the problem is?[18:06:54] <DeadYak> yes, dirs can have attributes[18:07:07] <DeadYak> you're sure your BNode is initialized properly?[18:07:40] <Negr0> yes, with files it does work[18:07:43] * JonathanThompson lobs a greeting out into the channel[18:07:50] <Negr0> just folders don't work[18:08:38] <DeadYak> Negr0: does node.InitCheck() return B_OK?[18:08:39] * DeadYak pets JonathanThompson[18:08:50] <Negr0> i don't know, i will check it[18:09:14] * JonathanThompson pets DeadYak petting JonathanThompson[18:09:28] <JonathanThompson> Now the circle of petting (all two points of it) is complete.[18:09:44] <Negr0> but i saw there a interesting thing in the BeAPI docs, if i anderstand it correct i have to set the BNode for a folder diffrent[18:10:04] <Negr0> status_t SetTo(const BDirectory *dir, const char *path)[18:10:58] <DeadYak> no, that's for setting the node to a relative path off a dir[18:11:05] <DeadYak> the other constructors will work for a dir just the same[18:11:13] <DeadYak> BNode node("/boot/home"); will work.[18:11:33] <DeadYak> how are you getting at the attrs?[18:11:41] <Negr0> hmmm but it doesn't...[18:11:49] <DeadYak> are you iterating them via GetNextAttrName?[18:11:54] <Negr0> no[18:12:13] <Negr0> fNode->ReadAttr("LAVA:PathToFile", B_STRING_TYPE, 0, buffer, sizeof(buffer));[18:13:25] <Negr0> hmmm mybe there is a bug in my attr writing... and it is realy no value in the attr...[18:13:44] <DeadYak> what does GetAttrInfo return for that attr?[18:14:26] <Negr0> $ listattr TestProjekt/[18:14:27] <Negr0> file TestProjekt/[18:14:28] <Negr0> Type Size Name[18:14:28] <Negr0> ---------- --------- -------------------------------[18:14:29] <Negr0> Text 11 LAVA:PROJECTNAME[18:14:29] <Negr0> Text 11 LAVA:Type[18:14:50] <DeadYak> I don't see LAVA:PathToFile in that list[18:15:37] <Negr0> sorry ^^[18:15:39] <Negr0> Type Size Name[18:15:40] <Negr0> ---------- --------- -------------------------------[18:15:40] <Negr0> Text 27 LAVA:PathToFolder[18:15:41] <Negr0> Text 10 LAVA:Type[18:15:55] <DeadYak> PathToFolder or PathToFile?[18:16:05] <Negr0> ohh fuck ^^[18:16:06] <DeadYak> your earlier code was doing a readattr off PathToFile[18:16:21] <Negr0> shit thats true do'h[18:16:26] <Negr0> ^^[18:16:33] <DeadYak> yeah, you won't get any data for the wrong attr name :)[18:16:34] <Negr0> thanks for your help[18:16:37] <DeadYak> np[18:17:07] <JonathanThompson> Sometimes an outside viewpoint is most efficient for noting stupid mistakes that are clear if you aren't so close to the problem :)[18:17:23] <JonathanThompson> (I've run into those myself, and I've been doing this sort of thing a long time)[18:17:27] <DeadYak> JonathanThompson: you wouldn't believe how often that's happened to me...[18:17:30] <DeadYak> then again you would[18:17:32] <DeadYak> :P[18:17:40] <Negr0> :D[18:17:47] <DeadYak> Negr0: better now?[18:18:14] <Negr0> yes... now it works :)[18:18:19] <DeadYak> yay[18:19:38] <MrSunshine> when coding, i looked for 3 days for error in my code and found it being a & insted of a && :P[18:19:55] <JonathanThompson> That figures, MrSunshine :PPPP[18:20:08] <MrSunshine> man i was angry at my self .. but at the same time happy i found the damn error :)[18:20:37] <JonathanThompson> I remember one BeOS one where I was working with BWindows, and a derived one.... well, mostly derived ::([18:20:49] *** waveshaper has quit IRC[18:21:47] <JonathanThompson> IIRC, I kept on doing am xxx= new BWindow when I meant to do an xxx= new BDerivedWindow, and I was beating my head against my desk wondering why my methods weren't doing what I thought they'd do :P[18:21:51] * DeadYak has flashbacks to debugging asm homewor[18:21:54] <DeadYak> homework[18:22:03] <JonathanThompson> When I finally realized what happened, I think I screamed at myself.[18:22:24] <DeadYak> nothing like trying to debug an infinite recursion problem in assembler when it turns out you forgot to pop one of your vars off the stack before returning[18:22:36] <JonathanThompson> D'OH! :)[18:22:44] <DeadYak> the stack traces got interesting[18:22:47] <DeadYak> needless to say[18:22:52] <JonathanThompson> And very long :)[18:22:57] <DeadYak> that too[18:26:44] * JonathanThompson grabs his Software Developer's Industrial Can of RAID and leaves for work[18:26:59] <DeadYak> your coworkers are insects?[18:27:09] <JonathanThompson> Sometimes they do bug me :)[18:27:54] <JonathanThompson> grep for "BUGBUG" in the codebase will get a lot of hits.[18:29:59] *** frodobeg86 has joined #haiku[18:34:02] *** urnenfeld has joined #haiku[18:37:00] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[18:37:11] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[18:39:46] *** urnenfeld has left #haiku[18:40:11] *** urnenfeld has joined #haiku[18:48:27] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[18:59:15] *** Euver has joined #haiku[19:19:29] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[19:19:41] <miqlas> Hello![19:19:57] <miqlas> Work in progress: http://www.boly.hu/~miqlas/[19:21:53] <urnenfeld> thats hungarian :)[19:22:00] <miqlas> :)[19:22:11] <kokito> miqlas, cool! :) Email me the logo text in a UTF-8 file, and I will create the logo for you using the right font.[19:22:21] <miqlas> Yes, this is Hungarian language.[19:24:11] <miqlas> I found lot of problems in the shijin2 template...[19:25:31] <kokito> miqlas, yes, the template has still problems.[19:25:40] <kokito> miqlas, did you fix any of the problems?[19:27:29] <miqlas> Yes. There is lot of hardcoded address. I fix almost all of them, with <?php print $base_path ?> :)[19:34:27] *** Atomozero has quit IRC[19:38:47] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku[19:43:36] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[19:45:49] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[19:48:37] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[19:48:56] *** tombhadAC has joined #haiku[19:49:52] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[19:57:05] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[20:14:15] *** genkie has joined #haiku[20:20:57] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[20:22:29] *** oco has joined #haiku[20:26:42] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[20:31:15] *** alpha-li1n has joined #haiku[20:43:55] *** alpha-lion has quit IRC[20:47:27] <TuneTracker> JonathanThompson[20:47:40] <DeadYak> TuneTracker: he's at work[20:47:45] <TuneTracker> DeadYak k thanks[20:47:48] <TuneTracker> DeadYak Do you know...[20:48:02] <TuneTracker> which is the "first" thing to run when you are installing the Firefox installation?[20:48:05] <TuneTracker> Is it...[20:48:09] <TuneTracker> run-mozilla.sh[20:48:17] <TuneTracker> firefox-bin[20:48:19] <TuneTracker> or[20:48:22] <TuneTracker> firefox[20:48:25] <DeadYak> I thought firefox[20:48:43] <TuneTracker> I just remember that if you run the wrong one the first time, it screws things up[20:49:05] <DeadYak> I thought that was with Seamonkey, I thought that problem went away with firefox[20:49:16] <TuneTracker> oh, maybe so...[20:49:23] <TuneTracker> wonder why there are all three in that case...[20:49:36] * TuneTracker tries "firefox"[20:50:27] <TuneTracker> DeadYak Seems to have worked. From then on, do you run firefox-bin ? That's the one with the firefox icon on it.[20:50:32] <MrSunshine> killpg == kill process group ?[20:50:36] <MrSunshine> or what? :)[20:50:37] <TuneTracker> the one labeled "firefox" appears to be just a script[20:51:21] <DeadYak> it's a script that sets up some env vars and launches firefox-bin[20:51:44] <TuneTracker> k - confusing that they put the icon on the executable, but that's not what you run. :-)[20:51:46] <DeadYak> brb work[20:51:49] *** frodobeg86 has quit IRC[20:51:54] *** alpha-li1n is now known as alpha-lion[20:51:59] <TuneTracker> k thanks DeadYak[20:52:02] <DeadYak> that's BeOS picking out the icon from the app[20:52:09] <DeadYak> a shell script isn't going to have an app icon[20:56:32] *** stargater has joined #haiku[20:56:37] <stargater> Hi[20:56:40] <stargater> Hi stippi[20:56:53] <TuneTracker> Hmm...firefox ran once, closed cleanly, but now won't relaunch.[20:57:29] *** Ingenu_ has joined #Haiku[20:58:09] * TuneTracker wonders what "invisible ghosts" firefox leaves behind that keeps it from re-running after being closed.[20:58:36] <stargater> hi Ingenu_[20:58:44] <stargater> hi TuneTracker[20:58:57] <TuneTracker> hi stargater[20:58:58] <Ingenu_> joy of Vista[20:59:02] <Ingenu_> lock, reset[20:59:05] <TuneTracker> pff[20:59:08] <Ingenu_> BIOS complain, reboot[20:59:19] <Ingenu_> Vista self update & reboot[20:59:24] <Ingenu_> defrag run & reboot[20:59:31] <Ingenu_> at last I can use the OS ^^[21:00:58] *** emitrax has quit IRC[21:07:06] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[21:19:59] *** Ingenu_ is now known as Ingenu[21:20:02] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[21:32:21] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC[21:34:32] * JonathanThompson tasers TuneTracker[21:39:52] <TuneTracker> youch[21:39:55] <TuneTracker> (delayed youch)[21:40:17] <TuneTracker> don't taser me, bro! don't taser me, bro! (what a weenee that guy was!)[21:40:28] <JonathanThompson> Everyone every so often needs little jolts that consists of tens of thousands of volts :)[21:40:36] <TuneTracker> I know I do[21:41:12] * JonathanThompson installs an ignition coil complete with electronic ignition computer in TuneTracker for hs jollts with volts needs[21:41:23] * TuneTracker takes a hit[21:41:25] <TuneTracker> ahhhh[21:41:28] <JonathanThompson> From now on, you'll be known as "Sparky"[21:42:02] <TuneTracker> Ah yes, the nickname I've wanted my entire life :-P[21:42:05] <JonathanThompson> Need my services currently, or were you just hoping to get Firefox help, which I see you got? :)[21:42:22] <TuneTracker> JonathanThompson The latter, yes :-)[21:42:25] <TuneTracker> How are you , anyway?[21:42:31] <JonathanThompson> Oh, going nuts.[21:42:37] <JonathanThompson> Working a contract at Yahoo![21:42:59] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[21:43:10] <JonathanThompson> There's a threat at the beginning of the thing that I would be hired permanently if things go as hoped, but I'm not sure I hope for that.[21:43:39] <urnenfeld> hmm svn complains about no external editor although i have set the variable... any hint ?[21:43:59] <TuneTracker> JonathanThompson But you would like to be?[21:44:15] <miqlas> Urnenfeld, Take a beer :)[21:44:21] <JonathanThompson> Not fully convinced I want to be, TuneTracker.[21:44:23] <stargater> urnenfeld: for commit?[21:44:57] <stargater> urnenfeld: svn ci -m "bla bla bla"[21:44:58] <JonathanThompson> urnenfeld, restart svn on your machine.[21:45:11] <stargater> you need no editor :-)[21:45:39] <urnenfeld> really no editor window?.. i need to be sure which files are inside the commit[21:46:13] <stargater> urnenfeld: svn ci -m "bla bla bla" file.h[21:47:15] <urnenfeld> :))) thats not cool....[21:47:23] <urnenfeld> thanks stargater JonathanThompson[21:47:29] <stargater> way[21:47:46] *** genkie has quit IRC[21:47:47] <JonathanThompson> Are you running an svn server on your local machine, urnenfeld, or using the Haiku svn server?[21:47:58] <urnenfeld> just using as client[21:48:40] <JonathanThompson> I was thinking perhaps you were using a server... silly me.[21:48:53] *** Master199 has quit IRC[21:58:07] <pyCube_> urnenfeld: svn stat will list the files that are to be committed[21:58:52] <pyCube_> rather, list the files that would be committed if you where to do svn ci[21:58:54] <pyCube_> heh[21:59:11] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku[22:01:50] <urnenfeld> and the "dirty" ones around right pyCube_ ?[22:01:59] *** siarzhuk has joined #haiku[22:15:09] <siarzhuk> ne0a[22:16:51] *** siarzhuk has quit IRC[22:19:53] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[22:23:17] *** stippi has quit IRC[22:28:06] <pyCube_> urnenfeld: yes[22:35:24] *** Euver has quit IRC[22:36:38] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[22:39:08] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[22:40:52] <MrSunshine> ok removing all the ide driver thingies made it to not able to find boot partition ...[22:41:03] <MrSunshine> thing is that my computer is a gray zone, 5 places says 5 diferent things :P[22:41:06] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[22:41:37] *** DeadYak has quit IRC[22:41:37] <MrSunshine> linux says sata driver is needed, windows says its IDE, bios says its IDE but if i set SATA0 password i have to enter it, hd name says SATA :P[22:42:46] <MrSunshine> 00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc ATI 4379 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)[22:42:48] <MrSunshine> says lspci[22:43:34] <MrSunshine> but i dont know if thats what is used :P[22:44:30] <MrSunshine> and says IDE interface?[22:45:20] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[22:49:33] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[22:59:17] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[22:59:31] <MrSunshine> humm wtf is this support: 0.3 .. support: 0.6 ?[22:59:42] <MrSunshine> on generic_ide_pci i get support: 0.3[22:59:49] <MrSunshine> on ide_isa i get 0.6 ?[22:59:57] <MrSunshine> no ahci according to the driver[23:00:58] <MrSunshine> and after it says that it found that support: 0.something i get main done or something entering cpu idle loop[23:01:00] <MrSunshine> and thats it[23:02:05] <MrSunshine> what should happend after that? :P[23:02:22] *** procton__ has joined #haiku[23:02:49] <mmu_man> plop[23:02:52] <mmu_man> hey procton__ :)[23:02:55] <mmu_man> long time[23:04:06] <MrSunshine> anyone? :)[23:05:30] <MrSunshine> brb gonna try one more thingie ...[23:05:39] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[23:05:49] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[23:09:12] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[23:09:25] <MrSunshine> nah nothign works, just dead stops after that init thingie :/[23:12:14] <MrSunshine> and aparently no one here cares :P[23:13:26] *** DeadYak has joined #haiku[23:19:21] *** procton_ has quit IRC[23:23:22] <MrSunshine> shouldnt be a deadlock either when its just 1 cpu ? :)[23:26:05] *** stargater has quit IRC[23:27:29] <MrSunshine> if i only had a way to log everything in some way?[23:27:39] <MrSunshine> no logs writen to disk if the disk is operational ?[23:32:06] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:37:39] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:45:05] <miqlas> Hungarian Haiku Portal (New Generation :) : http://www.boly.hu/~miqlas/[23:45:25] <miqlas> I need only a good domain... For example: http://haiku-os.hu