October 8, 2007 
< | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | >
October 8, 2007 [00:09:35] *** AnEvilYak has joined #haiku[00:14:53] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[00:16:12] *** rcjsuen_ has joined #haiku[00:20:38] *** rcjsuen_ has quit IRC[00:26:34] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[00:26:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[00:28:33] *** NeoOokami has joined #haiku[00:30:26] *** ThomHolwerda has joined #haiku[00:30:34] *** ThomHolwerda has quit IRC[00:31:23] * JonathanThompson wonders if the body count inside #haiku will get much higher today[00:31:37] *** kokito has joined #haiku[00:31:47] <kokito> howdy[00:31:57] * JonathanThompson hands a slice of reheating pizza to kokito in greetings[00:31:58] *** rhu has quit IRC[00:32:06] *** nielx has quit IRC[00:32:10] <kokito> thanks JonathanThompson[00:32:23] <kokito> missed lunch, so I am hungry[00:32:55] <JonathanThompson> It's part of about half a 14" "Almost Everything" pizza from Roberto's Pizza across the street, that I bought Friday night.[00:33:12] <JonathanThompson> Ah, the timer is screaming![00:33:16] <JonathanThompson> FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDD![00:33:35] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[00:33:50] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[00:34:11] <kokito> in case any of you missed it, you can watch/listen to a Haiku live webcast here: http://myhaiku.org/interactive-tv/[00:34:16] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[00:36:00] *** judgen has joined #haiku[00:36:12] <judgen> hody[00:36:18] <judgen> anyone awake today =)[00:37:20] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[00:40:55] * Hodapp snores[00:41:06] <judgen> ok[00:43:04] <judgen> has bernd donated any code to haiku since the death of yT[00:43:06] <judgen> ?[00:43:45] <CIA-5> bonefish * r22479 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/unistd/lseek.c: POSIX functions return their error codes via errno and so does lseek().[00:44:26] *** Stargater has quit IRC[00:47:34] *** wildur has quit IRC[00:50:23] *** BePhantom has joined #haiku[00:50:54] *** pyCube_ has quit IRC[00:51:44] <CIA-5> bonefish * r22480 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/fs/vfs.cpp:[00:51:44] <CIA-5> Some types of files cannot be seeked and we need to fail in those cases.[00:51:44] <CIA-5> We actually need to fail for sockets, too, but until I'm mistaken, we[00:51:44] <CIA-5> can't identify them in the VFS. Fixes bug #1539.[00:54:58] *** stargater has joined #haiku[00:55:04] <stargater> re[00:55:44] *** BePhantom has quit IRC[00:56:21] *** cps1966 has joined #haiku[01:00:10] *** kokito has quit IRC[01:01:14] *** oco has quit IRC[01:05:48] *** MangoFusion has quit IRC[01:09:37] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[01:12:11] *** SDr has quit IRC[01:12:15] *** SDr has joined #haiku[01:14:45] *** rhu has joined #haiku[01:26:01] *** stargater has quit IRC[01:26:44] *** DaaT has quit IRC[01:27:26] *** acidx has joined #haiku[01:48:08] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[01:53:21] *** rennj has quit IRC[02:09:25] *** TheNerd_LT has joined #haiku[02:26:05] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[02:29:20] *** TheNerd_LT has quit IRC[02:29:31] *** Disreali has quit IRC[02:43:30] *** Disreali has joined #haiku[02:51:24] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[02:52:24] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[03:00:07] *** aldeck has quit IRC[03:08:08] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[03:09:06] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[03:12:28] *** adam__ has joined #haiku[03:14:21] *** mmadia42 has joined #haiku[03:14:22] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:20:01] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[03:33:51] <CIA-5> bonefish * r22481 /haiku/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):[03:33:51] <CIA-5> First draft of the userland disk system add-on interface. A good deal of[03:33:51] <CIA-5> functionality of the kernel add-ons will be moved into userland, which[03:33:51] <CIA-5> will simplify the kernel-side significantly.[03:34:39] *** scanty has joined #haiku[03:34:52] <scanty> JonathanThompson, are you around?[03:35:03] <mmadia42> even'n scanty[03:35:09] <scanty> hellow.[03:35:15] <JonathanThompson> Nope.[03:35:24] <mmadia42> h jt.[03:35:40] <JonathanThompson> Hi "What's 6*7" :)[03:37:45] <mmadia42> hint, if you've a heart of gold you can find out for yourself.[03:37:49] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[03:40:55] *** flyinghippo has quit IRC[03:50:49] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[03:53:17] *** Disreali has quit IRC[03:54:26] <JamesB192> Do you mean "What do you get if you multiply six by nine"? 42.[03:54:36] *** M_199 has quit IRC[03:55:30] <JamesB192> and presumably subtract a dozen through more math.[03:57:25] <JonathanThompson> Actually, I think in base 13, it works (IIRC, I'd have to do the math)[03:57:28] *** adam__ has quit IRC[03:58:51] <JamesB192> Hmm, it does. It's also purportedly related to tea somehow.[04:00:02] <JonathanThompson> I have no clue how it would relate to tea, but then again, I don't bother with tea.[04:02:57] *** Penix has quit IRC[04:06:49] *** ablyss has quit IRC[04:08:35] *** Grackle has joined #haiku[04:17:25] * JonathanThompson imagines that 1/3 of a new type of cereal just entered into the channel[04:17:47] <Ketsuban> Spackle, Grackle and Splop?[04:17:51] <JonathanThompson> The theme for the cereal? "Snap- Grackle - Pop!"[04:18:58] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[04:20:18] <Grackle> ...[04:20:39] <JonathanThompson> What, you've never been incorporated into a cereal box as a form of welcome? :)[04:21:09] <Grackle> Haha, oh, is that a welcome? Hi, then.[04:21:54] <Grackle> I used to hang out here (lurked, mostly) but I went off to college and used a different setup, never added #haiku to my list of channels to join.[04:21:55] * JonathanThompson would have thought Grackle would have thought it was a welcome, as he would have thought that Grackle would have thought he'd know how he thought, that it wasn't a thoughtless sort of thought, just a JonathanThompson sort of weird sort of thought[04:22:18] <JonathanThompson> Got that?[04:22:29] <Grackle> I had to read it twice, but yeah. :)[04:22:31] <JonathanThompson> Thought so :)[04:22:36] <Grackle> hehe[04:23:44] <Grackle> I'd check out haiku-os.org right now, but I'm in a text console, eek. All I have is a 166MHz Pentium with slackware. I brought my laptop home but forgot to bring the power adapter, d'oh.[04:23:56] <Grackle> Brought it home from college for the weekend, that is.[04:24:03] * Grackle uses links[04:24:08] *** judgen has quit IRC[04:24:12] <JonathanThompson> I fell into a weird state not too long before scanty woke me out of it, listening to something calm and relaxing on DVD, where I had dreamt up a new videogame I was playing.[04:24:41] <Grackle> scanty?[04:24:44] * JonathanThompson wonders what flavor of links they are, and if he's got pancakes to go with them, or if they're merely missing[04:24:47] <JonathanThompson> Yes.[04:24:58] <Hodapp> sounds like a pirate name[04:25:14] <JonathanThompson> Yeah, well, he's a character :) (Not sure which one)[04:25:27] <scanty> yes?[04:25:30] <Grackle> It's 2.1pre23 flavored links[04:25:39] <JonathanThompson> The correct answer (in a deep voice( is, "You rang?"[04:26:13] <JonathanThompson> Of course, scanty is too much of a runt to ever do a good Lurch impersonation :P[04:28:24] <JonathanThompson> In this odd video game, as I pressed buttons, the conditions would change randomly, as well as the saling ship and what it had for sails, either ship sails, or sometimes it'd be evergreen trees, and it might also be snowing.[04:28:29] <JonathanThompson> Very odd bit of dreamscape.[04:29:05] <Ketsuban> Not much of a game if the changes are all random. =P[04:29:13] * JonathanThompson notes he ate half a pizza within a few hours before[04:29:26] <JonathanThompson> Well, the weather changes/condition changes were :)[04:29:51] <Hodapp> Dream video games are awesome[04:29:54] <JonathanThompson> It seems odd, though, to try to power a large ship in a wind using large evergreen trees :P[04:30:05] <Hodapp> they're much thicker than wind[04:30:33] <JonathanThompson> They also hold snow better than sails.[04:31:55] <JonathanThompson> I wonder when my next dream-within-a-dream will be...[04:39:54] *** mmadia42 has quit IRC[04:41:22] * kad77 instructs a pet piranha to munch on kad77's shoulder blades[04:41:38] * JonathanThompson wonders about kad77's mental condition[04:41:54] <kad77> self immolation emminent[04:42:12] * JonathanThompson gets away from all flammable material within kad77's reach[04:42:13] <kad77> well, once I get the spelling worked out[04:42:42] <JonathanThompson> The Chicago Marathon got up to 88 F today, and one runner died.[04:43:15] <kad77> I'm north of chicago, and it was warm today. I was out on a lake.... in October[04:43:48] <JonathanThompson> I would have to assess a lot of runners that bothered to race that hard as being terminally stupid, and I'm surprised more didn't die.[04:44:00] <JonathanThompson> I've run in rather warm humid conditions, and I had to slow down.[04:44:18] <JonathanThompson> It's not worth it to kill yourself: there will always be more races, assuming you live long enough.[04:44:19] <kad77> the need to win can be lead to death[04:44:35] <JonathanThompson> Well, a couple of Kenyans were the first 2.[04:44:44] <JonathanThompson> So, for most people, there wasn't a realistic chance of winning :P[04:44:51] * kad77 always manages to type as if english was his third language[04:45:10] <JonathanThompson> And apparently around 45K runners registered, and about 10K of them had enough wisdom not to start.[04:45:53] <kad77> well, 88 isn't *that* bad. but not fun, I suppose the less serious quit[04:45:59] <JonathanThompson> The last half-marathon I ran in Indianapolis was rather warm and humid, and 3 people dropped of heart attacks, one they couldn't revive.[04:46:18] <JonathanThompson> Humdity makes a HUGE difference when running long-distance, kad77.[04:46:25] <kad77> I don't think the weather killed them, do you?[04:46:42] <JonathanThompson> Their pride killed them, if they pushed that hard in the heat.[04:47:16] <JonathanThompson> I grew up in the Detroit area, and spent most of my adult life in the lower/central Indiana area, and both areas get very hot and humid.[04:47:28] <JonathanThompson> Remember, most people are doing well to complete a marathon in 4 hours.[04:47:50] <JonathanThompson> And that's on good conditions.[04:48:49] <kad77> I wasn't a track person, more of a gear head. Runners are something I avoid, kind of liek deer.[04:49:35] <kad77> The runners have a better record of avoiding my vehicles[04:50:17] <kad77> hey, JT you on a machine with a sgader model 3 video card?[04:50:24] <kad77> *shader[04:50:39] <JonathanThompson> Despite all that, the differences between first and second place was 0.05 seconds. Just nuts![04:50:44] <kad77> wow[04:51:14] <JonathanThompson> I'm using a PCI GeForce 5500FX, IIRC, kad77.[04:51:23] <JonathanThompson> Yeah, it took them several minutes to determine who won :P[04:51:50] * JonathanThompson could just imagine if all distance runners adopted typical race horse names[04:52:17] <JonathanThompson> Several hours at the finish line of the announcer tripping over his tongue :P[04:53:22] <JonathanThompson> The woman's class was first-second by 3 seconds, with the winner passing the 2nd place person right at the end.[04:53:40] * JonathanThompson imagines the ambulance services had great business today[04:54:02] <JonathanThompson> "At least 49 runners were taken to hospitals and another 250 were treated at the site."[04:54:05] <kad77> ambulance shifts are marathon length[04:54:54] <JonathanThompson> What's the weather forecast for tomorrow? Is it supposed to be cooler, after a violent storm?[04:54:57] <kad77> a friend of mine works for a milwaukee company and they have 24 hour shifts as regular protocol[04:55:30] * JonathanThompson hasn't figured out the logic of medical professionals pushing bodies to limits when it comes to life-or-death situations for clients[04:55:33] <kad77> rainy this week in upper midwest, dunno about elsewhere[04:55:58] <JonathanThompson> It's rainy here, but.... well, I'm in the Seattle area, so that doesn't say much :)[04:56:03] <kad77> hey[04:56:22] <JonathanThompson> It rarely rains as hard here as it would there.[04:56:33] <JonathanThompson> But, it's much more likely to persist throughout the whole day.[04:56:48] <kad77> you want to try this opengl I've been tweaking? quaternion fractals on the gpu. looks pretty nice[04:56:55] <JonathanThompson> BeOS code?[04:56:59] <JonathanThompson> (I'm guessing not)[04:57:02] <kad77> opengl app I meant. no, not yet[04:57:15] <JonathanThompson> Well, I'm running on an old machine.[04:57:34] <kad77> yeah, its still a bit slow even on a 7800gt[04:57:42] <kad77> but it is real time raytracing[04:57:55] <JonathanThompson> Well, that's not the part I'm saying is old: that's the least of my "old" issues :)[04:58:22] <JonathanThompson> I have as much video RAM as main RAM in this beast.[04:58:37] <kad77> hmm, my cpu is pegged when running it. let me check ram use[04:59:24] *** acidx has quit IRC[04:59:25] <kad77> 20 mb, not bad[04:59:36] <JonathanThompson> Well, RAM use wouldn't matter, then.[04:59:53] <kad77> well, try it if you like I can dcc[05:00:27] *** NeoOokami has quit IRC[05:00:36] <JonathanThompson> I've not yet had dcc work out on this machine.[05:00:45] <scanty> okay[05:00:48] <kad77> I have yet to try it on this one. ;)[05:00:56] <scanty> I figured out hwo to do quardratic regression on the calculator[05:01:09] <JonathanThompson> Now, do it in your head, scanty :)[05:01:11] <kad77> and make it look like tetris?[05:01:28] <scanty> well, ideally i want to not depend on my calculator.[05:01:57] *** Grackle has quit IRC[05:02:13] * JonathanThompson remembers a story about Enrico Fermi and how he deduced the force of an explosion using a sheet of paper falling when it went off[05:02:22] <kad77> jt: you have any idea what would make a video card (geforce 5200) make a squealing/whining sound? no fan on it..[05:02:39] <scanty> my gf5200 does that sometimes.[05:02:43] <scanty> except there is a fan on it.[05:02:48] <JonathanThompson> I don't know what to tell you, kad77: this is only my second videocard purchase in 12 years :P[05:03:24] <kad77> well, this was one I was going to use on a streaming pc to tv, with no parts on it .... and that plan is ruined by this noise.[05:03:25] * JonathanThompson goes to watch Sunday Night Education (AKA "The Simpsons")[05:03:30] <kad77> l8r[05:36:33] *** rainman has joined #haiku[05:37:04] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[05:45:20] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[06:09:18] *** rainman has quit IRC[06:17:31] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[06:19:41] * JonathanThompson poots into the channel[06:20:59] * pyCube dispenses an air biscuit[06:22:49] <pyCube> so i have been on a full on MASH kick all weekend[06:28:17] * JonathanThompson wonders what the cure for a MASH overdose is[06:30:16] <JonathanThompson> I know, pyCube: some of my dreams :)[06:32:54] * JonathanThompson imagines a cross between a dinosaur and a Rubik's Cube, a Rubik's Cubasaurus[06:38:31] <pyCube> another thought.. no being on earth is capable of making a more intense... "wtf is wrong with you..?" look than a cat[06:38:48] <JonathanThompson> Cats are amazing creatures, aren't they? :)[06:39:28] <JonathanThompson> I've seen some incredibly smart cats....[06:39:52] <JonathanThompson> I've also seen a rare few indoor cats that if they were allowed to go outside, they'd promptly find a way to get killed.[06:40:32] *** joltz has joined #haiku[06:42:09] <JonathanThompson> Just imagine, though, if house cats were 100 times the mass, and still kept as pets :)[06:42:37] * JonathanThompson wouldn't want to get in the way of a Maine Coon cat, full-size, especially[06:43:03] <JonathanThompson> They tend to range from the small side of 10 pounds as adults to 35 pounds, and that's without being fat.[06:44:24] <JonathanThompson> Imagine the size of the litterboxes, pyCube :P[06:44:32] <pyCube> heh[06:45:01] <JonathanThompson> Or, even funnier: imagine trying to take one to the vet :)[06:46:45] *** vi20 has joined #haiku[06:47:42] *** scanty has quit IRC[07:00:09] <JonathanThompson> My twin sister was asking me for help on how to sign up for something she found on Craig's List involving reviewing ads, etc. where supposedly she'd get paid via PayPal or check in the mail.[07:00:31] <JonathanThompson> I'm very leery of what she's run into, based on what little I've heard of it, though.[07:01:01] <JonathanThompson> If there's a good thing, it's that she is sufficiently computer-illiterate enough that I'm not certain she can sign up for it with all the information they're requesting.[07:07:38] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[07:08:37] * JonathanThompson lobs a flaming atomic hairball at SprMa in greeting[07:09:39] <SprMa> Well. "Atomic hairball". Aren't they banned by the Geneva Convention?[07:10:03] <JonathanThompson> No, simply because they need to reconvene and update their lists :)[07:10:57] <SprMa> I didn't get the latest Geneva Convention Newsletter....[07:11:21] <JonathanThompson> Now you know what you can look forward to ordering.[07:11:40] <Ketsuban> An atomic hairball is just one you can't split up into smaller hairballs. =P[07:11:58] <JonathanThompson> Indivisible, and radiant, for all :)[07:12:46] <SprMa> so my Atomic Kitten may also use it[07:12:55] <JonathanThompson> Absolutely![07:13:06] <JonathanThompson> Where do you think most Atomic Hairballs come from???[07:13:26] * JonathanThompson hopes SprMa's Atomic Kitten hasn't used up too many of its 18 half-lives[07:14:03] <JonathanThompson> If your Atomic Kitten has, it may now have a lead foot.[07:15:01] <SprMa> Ever tried to counter strike an Atomic Kitten? The fur stands all up[07:15:09] <JonathanThompson> Shocking.[07:15:37] * JonathanThompson wonders if you give an Atomic Kitten a bath in heavy water[07:17:59] <SprMa> Scientists. Once upon a time you needed to live alone, never bath and eat strange mushrooms. Now all it takes is a simple helmet.[07:18:04] <SprMa> http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/10/08/0340229.shtml[07:18:58] <Ketsuban> JonathanThompson: Heavy water? Is that deuterated water, tritiated water or using heavier isotopes of hydrogen?[07:19:05] <JonathanThompson> Yes.[07:19:06] <Ketsuban> Or perhaps you're using a heavy isotope of oxygen?[07:21:11] *** BePower has joined #haiku[07:26:30] *** BePower has quit IRC[07:41:06] *** SDragon has joined #haiku[07:41:16] *** SDr has quit IRC[07:41:29] *** SprMa has quit IRC[07:50:00] *** cyrann has joined #haiku[07:54:16] *** marinello has joined #haiku[08:12:20] *** Euver has joined #haiku[08:15:53] *** agony__ has joined #haiku[08:26:09] *** Karina`` has quit IRC[08:28:27] *** SDr has joined #haiku[08:33:22] *** magnetron has joined #haiku[08:35:01] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[08:39:06] *** kokito has joined #haiku[08:45:58] *** SDragon has quit IRC[08:46:02] *** SDragon has joined #haiku[08:47:10] *** SDr has quit IRC[08:47:53] *** nielx has joined #haiku[08:52:57] *** vi20 has quit IRC[09:02:40] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[09:09:04] *** kokito has quit IRC[09:13:06] *** JDarkness has joined #haiku[09:15:02] *** umccullough_home is now known as umccullough[09:16:11] *** joltz has quit IRC[09:16:43] * umccullough gets home, still in one piece[09:17:23] *** SDr has joined #haiku[09:17:50] *** SDragon has quit IRC[09:45:29] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[09:56:26] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[09:57:25] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[09:57:38] *** magnetron has quit IRC[09:58:09] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[10:04:34] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[10:05:38] *** JDarkness has quit IRC[10:05:47] *** JDarkness has joined #haiku[10:06:25] <JDarkness> how can i print an integer in a BTextView?[10:07:15] <JonathanThompson> sprintf(string,"%d",integer);[10:07:40] <JDarkness> ok i try[10:07:41] <JDarkness> thx[10:07:56] <JonathanThompson> Or perhaps atoi(int)[10:08:12] <JDarkness> ok[10:09:39] *** Penix has joined #haiku[10:16:06] *** emitrax has quit IRC[10:16:09] *** BuildFactory has quit IRC[10:16:16] <IcePic> atoi()? sounds backwards.[10:16:38] * JonathanThompson notes he's supposed to be asleep[10:17:09] <JonathanThompson> I'm sure JDarkness would recognize that rather quickly :P[10:17:49] *** agony_ has joined #haiku[10:18:07] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[10:19:49] <JDarkness> np[10:19:50] <JDarkness> : )[10:21:21] <JonathanThompson> JDarkness, are you supposed to be asleep right now? :)[10:22:07] <Ingenu> plop[10:24:17] <JonathanThompson> plop, fizz, fizz, oh, what an Ingenu, he is![10:25:06] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[10:25:33] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[10:25:47] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[10:25:52] <CIA-5> axeld * r22482 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/cache/block_allocator.cpp: The block allocator needs to reserve pages, too, when it maps pages.[10:26:35] <Ingenu> :p[10:26:46] <Ingenu> isn't it time for you to sleep JonathanThompson ?[10:26:48] * JonathanThompson suspects latest check-in fixes a "minor" bug that caused things to hang at some point...[10:27:15] <JonathanThompson> It's only around 1:30 a.m (I know that's not the correct time, but my CPU drifts time clock under BeOS)[10:27:45] <JDarkness> JonathanThompson he hehe, i live in italy :)[10:27:51] <JonathanThompson> I find it very funny that as fast as computers have gotten, etc. that we still have such issues :)[10:28:01] *** agony__ has quit IRC[10:28:04] <JDarkness> in italy are the 10:27 AM[10:28:09] <JDarkness> : )[10:28:22] <JonathanThompson> Around here as a developer, you might still be in bed :P[10:28:31] <JDarkness> XD[10:29:38] *** pyCube has quit IRC[10:33:42] <JonathanThompson> JDarkness, you achieve what you wanted with my help, even if I sent a backwards example in one case? :)[10:45:24] <JDarkness> i'm writing[10:45:31] <JDarkness> a winmx client[10:45:43] <JonathanThompson> winmx?[10:45:48] <JDarkness> yes[10:46:02] <JDarkness> a fire sharing program[10:46:02] <JonathanThompson> Not heard of such a beast.[10:46:05] <JDarkness> *file[10:46:07] <JonathanThompson> I guess I'm out of that loop :)[10:46:34] * JonathanThompson notes people that smoke may like a fire-sharing program[10:46:45] <JDarkness> XD[10:55:37] * JonathanThompson appreciates the power and insane syntax of STL via C++ templates (great as long as you don't make a typo and have to parse many lines of text for one compiler error message)[11:45:45] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[12:17:06] <Thom_Holwerda> jus drove my kitty cat to the vet[12:17:13] <Thom_Holwerda> it's The Day for him.[12:18:11] <JDarkness> fork() can be used in BeOS?[12:35:06] *** magnetron has joined #haiku[12:37:15] *** Euver has quit IRC[12:38:48] *** Atomozero has joined #haiku[13:03:27] <JonathanThompson> JDarkness, fork() can be used, or you can do BeOS spawn_thread() but not both in the same application.[13:03:47] <JonathanThompson> So, Thom_Holwerda, your cat will be running... a little lighter after today?[13:07:09] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[13:09:00] <JDarkness> ok[13:09:17] *** SprMa has quit IRC[13:16:05] *** absabs has joined #haiku[13:21:34] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[13:29:04] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[13:44:20] <Darknesss> anyone happens to know a gui app for managing/changing routing tables in windows?[13:44:41] <Darknesss> I have to change quite a few routes and don't feel like typing it all in dos[13:46:40] <JonathanThompson> I take it you've put your fate in the hands of Google or other search engines?[13:46:49] <JonathanThompson> I don't know of such a beast, personally.[13:48:34] *** Atomozero has quit IRC[13:57:37] <Darknesss> yeah, but I only got results talking about the routing table manager in windows[14:00:02] <JonathanThompson> Well, sucks to be you with your needs right now :)[14:00:10] <JonathanThompson> How many hits with the terms you used did you get?[14:02:49] <JonathanThompson> I'm thinking you didn't use the correct search terms, or you aborted too soon: http://pcwin.com/Internet/Alchemy_Network_Tools/index.htm[14:03:51] <Ingenu> ordered "Introduction to Parallel Computing: Design and Analysis of Algorithms"[14:04:00] <Ingenu> in transit[14:04:03] <Darknesss> hmm, which keywords did you use for that?[14:04:06] <JonathanThompson> Should make for good bed-time reading, Ingenu :P[14:04:37] *** ursulbrun has joined #haiku[14:04:39] <Ingenu> didn't finish the previous programming book I bought ;p[14:04:40] <JonathanThompson> In google I used "Windows routing table editor"[14:04:47] <Ingenu> the one you recommended me[14:04:56] <Ingenu> must be @50/60%[14:04:57] <JonathanThompson> Was that the book I suggested you read, "Large-Scale C++ Software Design" ?[14:05:00] <Ingenu> yup[14:05:09] <JonathanThompson> It isn't the fastest/easiest book to read :)[14:05:12] <JonathanThompson> But, it's worth it.[14:05:18] <Ingenu> agreed[14:05:33] <Darknesss> it will be the "editor" word :)[14:05:48] <Ingenu> it's more, since I can't put it to use at work, I don't read it much anymore[14:06:03] <Ingenu> of course I keep it in mind when working on my engine[14:06:04] <JonathanThompson> And of course, based on what you have shown/told me about the stuff you're afflicted with working on for your employer, they need a lot more help than that book can provide for guidance, Ingenu :P[14:06:30] <Ingenu> but even with 35h weekly I don't have much time/energy to work for me on my spare time[14:06:37] <JonathanThompson> First, the people you're working with need some common sense.[14:06:53] <Ingenu> and be willing to learn and adapt[14:07:18] <JonathanThompson> I'm thinking that part of "common sense" includes learning and adapting over time in most cases.[14:07:45] * JonathanThompson suggests Darknesss needs to "Think like a search engine"[14:08:17] <Darknesss> I was using words like manager but not editor...[14:09:02] <Darknesss> those results were harder to narrow down[14:09:05] <JonathanThompson> With those search terms, Google only gave me 224,000 hits :P[14:12:41] *** Rahul has joined #haiku[14:12:47] *** Rahul has left #haiku[14:13:46] <Ingenu> yeah, he 12 realms books are being translated in french[14:13:56] <Ingenu> so I'll be able to read them after having loved the anime[14:17:05] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[14:17:59] *** JamesB192_ has joined #haiku[14:19:31] <Darknesss> actually that program does not allow editing the routing table ...[14:20:02] <JonathanThompson> Well, it appears the same people that wrote that, have an oodle of various things for network stuff, and I'd be surprised if there's not a single one that will edit.[14:20:34] <JonathanThompson> But if not, I'm fairly confident those search words will result in something in a short amount of checking.[14:21:04] *** emitrax__ has joined #haiku[14:23:15] * JonathanThompson attempts to go to sleep[14:24:00] *** emitrax_ has quit IRC[14:34:05] *** JamesB192 has quit IRC[14:36:32] *** DeadYak has joined #haiku[15:11:22] *** Darknessss has joined #haiku[15:11:23] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[15:13:44] *** Stargater has joined #haiku[15:13:46] <Stargater> hi[15:15:24] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[15:25:42] *** MangoFusion has joined #haiku[15:30:07] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[15:30:35] *** Darknessss has quit IRC[15:34:19] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[15:35:44] <Begasus> 'lo peeps[15:35:56] <Ingenu> lo[15:36:51] *** JDarkness has quit IRC[15:37:00] * DeadYak pets Begasus[15:37:16] * Begasus pets DeadYak[15:38:10] * Thom_Holwerda pets DeadYak[15:39:18] * Begasus waves at Thom_Holwerda[15:39:23] <Thom_Holwerda> hiya[15:39:32] <Thom_Holwerda> my cat is still at the vet[15:39:45] <Thom_Holwerda> just called them, but he's still a bit too groggy to be picked up\[15:40:14] <Begasus> ah ... picked up the puppy here on saterday ... ;)[15:40:32] <Thom_Holwerda> all well?[15:40:50] <Begasus> yeah ... doing great so far[15:41:03] <Begasus> eating good .. playing well ... ;)[15:41:04] <Thom_Holwerda> ok[15:41:17] <Begasus> and sleeping atm ..[15:56:53] <CIA-5> axeld * r22483 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/vm_low_memory.cpp:[15:56:53] <CIA-5> * B_LOW_MEMORY_NOTE now starts earlier, at 8 MB left.[15:56:53] <CIA-5> * vm_low_memory_state() now periodically recomputes the state in case the[15:56:53] <CIA-5> low memory thread is waiting for something.[16:01:22] <MangoFusion> darn! now i'm going to get a constant low memory note on my 8mb haiku machine! ;)[16:02:17] <Ingenu> what ? I can't put it on my i286 512kB ? it's outrageous ![16:02:21] <Ingenu> ;)[16:03:40] <Thom_Holwerda> i told you haiku would succumb to the resource-heavy trend[16:03:51] <Thom_Holwerda> what's next, i need to replace my two mb ati card?[16:05:37] <Ingenu> beos runs on an olod k6-200 96MB + Matrox Mystique 23MB[16:05:39] <Ingenu> 2MB[16:06:58] *** Darknessss has joined #haiku[16:17:24] *** Darknesssss has joined #haiku[16:17:25] *** Darknessss has quit IRC[16:17:40] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[16:17:47] *** Darknesssss is now known as Darknesss[16:37:07] *** JBurton has joined #haiku[16:37:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o JBurton[16:37:10] <JBurton> hi all[16:38:53] <Begasus> hi JBurton[16:40:34] <Begasus> http://youtube.com/watch?v=2FUJdFARzjA[16:40:35] <Begasus> ;)[16:43:06] <JBurton> cute :)[16:44:19] <Begasus> yeah .. he's fitting in quit well .. ;)[16:46:22] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[16:46:34] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[16:50:32] *** genkie has joined #haiku[17:05:26] *** Stargater has quit IRC[17:06:50] *** _Lucretia_ has quit IRC[17:07:47] *** _Lucretia_ has joined #haiku[17:09:20] *** emitrax__ has quit IRC[17:14:24] *** joltz has joined #haiku[17:16:01] *** genkie has quit IRC[17:18:05] *** absabs has quit IRC[17:20:38] *** flyinghippo has joined #haiku[17:21:06] *** Darknessss has joined #haiku[17:32:04] <CIA-5> bonefish * r22484 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/unistd/alarm.c: Patch by Vasilis Kaoutsis: Return error code via errno.[17:38:52] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[17:48:14] *** pulkomandy has joined #haiku[17:53:39] *** wasosa_ has joined #haiku[17:53:40] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[17:54:01] <Lelldorin1> hi all[17:58:15] *** JBurton has quit IRC[17:59:17] *** MauriceK has joined #haiku[18:03:48] *** reallyjoel has joined #haiku[18:06:35] <CIA-5> axeld * r22485 /haiku/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)[18:06:35] <CIA-5> * Added a "canWait" argument to vfs_get_vnode() - you can use this to ignore[18:06:35] <CIA-5> busy vnodes.[18:06:35] <CIA-5> * dir_create_entry_ref() used get_vnode() incorrectly (and could therefore[18:06:35] <CIA-5> potentially prevent a file system from doing proper locking when called[18:06:36] <CIA-5> from the kernel).[18:06:38] <CIA-5> * The vnode_store now uses this for its acquire_unreferenced_ref()[18:09:57] *** riiiftUm has joined #haiku[18:10:00] <riiiftUm> hi there[18:11:12] <riiiftUm> haha, the idiots at osnews are discussing the news item "MonaOS"... 90% is about the name, not the os[18:13:20] <MangoFusion> lol[18:14:09] <Ingenu> the name's the most important ;)[18:14:37] <Ingenu> the poor marketing guys like cool names, like AMD ATi RadeOn X2900 XT[18:14:40] <Ingenu> sounds great ;p[18:15:57] <CIA-5> axeld * r22486 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/ (vm_daemons.cpp vm_page.cpp): (log message trimmed)[18:15:58] <CIA-5> * Fixed the page_thief(): it never noticed it could not get a page.[18:15:58] <CIA-5> * The page_thief() will no longer steal any pages in B_LOW_MEMORY_NOTE state,[18:15:58] <CIA-5> only in the more serious cases.[18:15:58] <CIA-5> * I've disabled stealing active pages for now again; there seem to be some[18:15:59] <CIA-5> problems with it (either with how we do it, or with other stuff).[18:16:03] <CIA-5> * vm_page_schedule_write_page() now always releases the page writer semaphore,[18:16:29] <riiiftUm> Ingenu: just unimportant still[18:16:38] <riiiftUm> especially when discussing a research level os[18:16:43] <riiiftUm> hilarious stupidity[18:16:57] <riiiftUm> akain to ted steven's "series of tubes" analogy of the internet[18:17:04] <riiiftUm> that's STUPID[18:18:09] <Ingenu> people like to talk nonsense, some just for the pleasure of hearing their own voices, other as a proof they exist...[18:19:07] *** riiiftUm is now known as gr00ber[18:19:27] <nielx> Ingenu: but I like my voice![18:19:43] * JonathanThompson notes the gr00berhood has gone downhill lately[18:19:54] * JonathanThompson hands nielx a large band-aid[18:21:04] <JonathanThompson> The worst part will be removing it, if you have facial hair :P[18:21:07] * Ingenu gives nielx a megaphone[18:21:15] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[18:21:51] <nielx> actually, I'll be speaking about Haiku this sunday on an open source event :-)[18:22:18] <Ingenu> gonna start with one, right ?[18:22:26] * JonathanThompson hopes nielx doesn't have facial hair if he puts on the large bandaid :)[18:23:13] * nielx shaved this morning[18:23:51] * JonathanThompson currently has enough facial hair he could create a bad-looking dead rat to wear[18:24:18] <JonathanThompson> I'm nowhere near the ability to do a beard comb-over like on a commercial I saw, though :P[18:24:31] <gr00ber> nipple nap[18:25:14] * JonathanThompson goes to get ready for work[18:26:34] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:26:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[18:29:14] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[18:32:18] *** nemanja has joined #haiku[18:32:21] <nemanja> wow[18:32:31] <nemanja> so many of you[18:33:02] <dr_evil> hi mmu_man[18:33:10] <mmu_man> plop[18:33:42] <nemanja> Can anyone tell me how to write haiku.image file to disk?[18:33:43] <mmu_man> hmm interesting, 68030 has a CAS2 opcode that can atomically compare-and-set 2 longs :)[18:34:01] <mmu_man> how come I can make atomic ops for 64bit on 68k and ppc doesn't have those ??[18:34:17] <pulkomandy> RISC ?[18:34:52] <pulkomandy> they removed instructions between the 030 and the 060, but used a trap system to emulate them[18:34:59] <pulkomandy> (in a faster way :))[18:35:17] <Begasus> mmu_man, instructions are on the haiku-os site ...[18:35:31] <mmu_man> ?[18:35:34] <Begasus> http://haiku-os.org/community/forum/installing_haiku_to_a_partition_from_linux[18:35:42] <Begasus> writing image to disk ...[18:35:50] <nemanja> what about from windows?[18:35:53] <mmu_man> pulkomandy yes I know but ppc is not 68k[18:36:09] <pulkomandy> i don't know ppc at all :)[18:36:18] <nemanja> i am tired of slow vmware[18:36:20] <mmu_man> powerpc is much newer...[18:36:30] <pulkomandy> (still in z80 era :))[18:37:33] *** agony_ has quit IRC[18:39:12] *** Darknessss has quit IRC[18:45:31] <dr_evil> risc and cisc: CAS2 vs. CMPXCHG8B[18:47:06] <DeadYak> haha.[18:47:27] <DeadYak> dr_evil: I dunno, I still like things like REPNZ SCASB[18:47:29] <DeadYak> :)[18:48:35] <mmu_man> dr_evil 68k is not RISC[18:48:58] *** genkie has joined #haiku[18:49:05] <mmu_man> yeah the ppc mnemonics look nice as well...[18:49:39] * JamesB192_ is awaiting haiku for the 65xx family. (not)[18:50:11] <mmu_man> hmm I don't plan on porting to my ORIC Atmos yet[18:50:13] * dr_evil likes eieio[18:50:20] <mmu_man> though I started porting Lunix NG[18:50:30] <mmu_man> oh, and OS/A65 the other day :)[18:51:26] <mmu_man> wonder if I'll get something bootable on a Falcon before Alchimie 7[18:51:31] <mmu_man> that'd rock[18:52:06] *** BePower has joined #haiku[18:52:13] <mmu_man> page_thief() that's a nice name :)[18:52:29] <mmu_man> hey, CIA-5 are you sleeping ?[18:52:53] * JamesB192_ reads the previously linked article. 'So I take it you can run makebootable from Linux.'[18:53:24] <dr_evil> CIA seems to miss notifications frequently[18:53:37] *** genkie has quit IRC[18:54:37] * mmu_man pets src/system/kernel/arch/m68k[18:56:32] *** gr00ber has quit IRC[19:00:35] *** BePower has quit IRC[19:02:51] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[19:03:13] <Begasus> pet't to hard I think ;)[19:04:03] *** BePower has joined #haiku[19:07:42] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[19:10:02] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[19:10:25] *** sdubois92 has joined #haiku[19:14:55] <MangoFusion> i'm still waiting for some crazy person to make haiku work on the Dreamcast[19:15:23] <MangoFusion> :P[19:16:12] <DeadYak> SH4's a nice CPU[19:18:04] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[19:20:09] *** Stargater has joined #haiku[19:20:12] <Stargater> re[19:21:17] *** Darknessss has joined #haiku[19:21:18] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[19:22:44] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[19:24:03] *** Ingenu_ has joined #Haiku[19:28:14] *** Euver has joined #haiku[19:33:38] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[19:35:19] *** reallyjoel has quit IRC[19:36:11] *** BePower has quit IRC[19:42:22] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[19:44:18] *** Ingenu_ is now known as Ingenu[19:48:55] *** JamesB192_ is now known as James_Browning_B[19:49:18] *** James_Browning_B is now known as JamesB192[19:50:53] *** Atomozero has joined #haiku[20:03:06] <etteyafed> Would a PPC Haiku port run on IBM's new Power Arch stuff[20:03:15] <etteyafed> new as in Power 5 and 6[20:03:34] <DeadYak> why would you run Haiku on a power6?[20:03:39] <DeadYak> that's not exactly a desktop machine[20:04:32] *** BePower has joined #haiku[20:04:43] <etteyafed> Well no but there is talk of IBM producing light Power 6 chips like 6L and 6UL for blade and maybe even workstation uses[20:05:03] <etteyafed> Who knows when though[20:05:10] <DeadYak> well, they use the same instruction set so that part's not an issue, it's more a matter of supporting the boot and hardware on such a box[20:05:49] <etteyafed> There is the Altivec and other special instructions also, although altivec is in the spec now.[20:06:05] <etteyafed> i was just wondering[20:06:06] <DeadYak> was going to say, VMX has been in IBM's chips since power4[20:06:59] <etteyafed> was it that early? well Power6 also has a few power mgmt features that are new[20:07:20] <DeadYak> PPC970 = Power4 derivative[20:07:43] <DeadYak> though in that one the VMX unit was added on for the 970 specifically iirc, power5 did feature it directly[20:07:45] <etteyafed> ahh. Those 970 workstations are soo expensive.[20:08:40] <etteyafed> I wanted a new PPC machine but i can't justify the expense. worse than buying an apple.[20:09:10] *** genkie has joined #haiku[20:09:53] <etteyafed> my g4 is no fun anymore. I don't even think it works now.[20:13:50] *** DeadYak has quit IRC[20:14:13] *** DeadYak has joined #haiku[20:14:46] *** BePower has quit IRC[20:21:16] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[20:21:17] *** Darknessss has quit IRC[20:23:17] *** alpha-li1n has joined #haiku[20:38:46] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[20:41:06] *** alpha-lion has quit IRC[20:44:15] *** wasosa__ has joined #haiku[20:46:57] *** sdubois92 has quit IRC[20:48:17] *** flyinghippo has quit IRC[20:51:17] *** BePower has joined #haiku[20:54:09] *** SDr has quit IRC[20:54:19] *** SDr has joined #haiku[20:54:40] *** nemanja has left #haiku[20:58:03] * JamesB192 had a crazy idea about a motherboard you could change from one architechture to another simply by swapping processors. The mobo firmware would be interpreted and the interpreter loaded in the processors firmware. I was think the first generation could be LGA bas and called a socket B, but Intel grabbed that one.[20:59:12] <pulkomandy> there was a project to use a ppc on a pc motherboard, with a rom to emulate the x86 and bootstrap everything[20:59:21] <pulkomandy> never got to a runnable state afaik[21:01:29] *** wasosa_ has quit IRC[21:03:59] *** flyinghippo has joined #haiku[21:05:30] *** rgb1 has joined #haiku[21:06:03] *** Ingenu_ has joined #Haiku[21:06:31] *** ddew|bofh has joined #haiku[21:06:32] <ddew|bofh> lo[21:12:03] <pulkomandy> +++[21:12:10] *** pulkomandy has quit IRC[21:14:08] *** alpha-li1n is now known as alpha-lion[21:19:32] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[21:19:40] <JonathanThompson> Ploop[21:19:47] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[21:21:21] *** Darknessss has joined #haiku[21:21:21] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[21:22:02] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[21:23:09] *** Ingenu_ is now known as Ingenu[21:32:48] *** BePower has quit IRC[21:33:05] *** BePower has joined #haiku[21:37:33] *** rgb1 has quit IRC[21:41:22] * JonathanThompson stretches ddew|bofh[21:41:27] * JonathanThompson stretches DeadYak[21:41:44] <Ingenu> bofh ?[21:41:50] <JonathanThompson> Why not? :)[21:42:31] <JonathanThompson> I'm not sure why ddew|bofh has both in his name...[21:42:34] <JonathanThompson> Ask him.[21:53:02] *** agony_ has joined #haiku[21:55:17] *** _Lucretia_ is now known as Lord_And_Master[21:55:19] <kad77> Bastard Operator From Hell[21:55:30] *** Lord_And_Master is now known as _Lucretia_[21:55:47] * JonathanThompson considers perhaps he needs to choose a different font for Vision[21:56:02] <JonathanThompson> That, and perhaps a larger font/lower resolution :P[21:56:05] <kad77> http://www.bofh.com/[21:56:17] * ddew|bofh is a BOFH :P[21:56:30] <JonathanThompson> (I know about BOFH: I aspire to be such a person should I ever be a help desk slave)[21:56:31] <kad77> :D (i can dish it)[21:56:59] <ddew|bofh> i'm not on the helldesk, i'm a proper sysadmin :)[21:57:12] <JonathanThompson> And a proper PITA? :)[21:57:22] <kad77> anyone have experience with hw raid 5 sata cards?[21:57:23] *** genkie has quit IRC[21:57:25] <ddew|bofh> that's a given, isn't it? :P[21:57:43] <ddew|bofh> kinda comes with the bofh territory[21:58:01] <kad77> I'm looking for one, but most are either software based or really high end (upwards of $800)[21:58:59] <CIA-5> bonefish * r22487 /haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/posix/unistd/alarm.c: Reverted r22484. setitimer() already sets errno, if necessary.[21:59:04] <ddew|bofh> isn't that integrated into many mobos?[21:59:14] <ddew|bofh> got it on mine anyways[21:59:15] * JonathanThompson needs to verify online which ICHx mutation his likely Xeon motherboard options have[22:00:14] <ddew|bofh> btw, been doing some fun work on my car over the past few days. now the turbo chucks out 0.8 bar :D[22:00:21] <kad77> ddew: hardware raid 5? what mob?[22:00:32] <ddew|bofh> gigabyte p35[22:00:47] <ddew|bofh> integrated into the bearlake chipset methinks[22:01:05] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[22:02:00] <ddew|bofh> 180bhp in 1400kg car is gnarly[22:02:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dr_evil[22:02:31] <kad77> ddew: I wonder why the pci-express cards are so expensive ... maybe I should just build a NAS... :/[22:02:39] <JonathanThompson> Is that all, ddew|bofh? :)[22:03:11] <ddew|bofh> it's a little 2-door city car :)[22:03:34] <kad77> eclipse? vw?[22:03:41] <ddew|bofh> volvo 480[22:04:09] <kad77> hoping it was vw; I have a 1.8 turbo to sell :)[22:04:35] <ddew|bofh> amazing little car, solid as a tank[22:05:22] <kad77> not avail in the US, apparently[22:06:04] <ddew|bofh> i don't think they made it for the us market, although it was designed for it[22:06:43] <JonathanThompson> Ah good: the Bearlake chipset has ICH9, which dr_evil lists on haikuware.com as being compatible.[22:07:13] <JonathanThompson> That means I can actually buy a new dual Xeon motherboard and I shouldn't have that be a booting show-stopper.[22:07:21] <ddew|bofh> been trying to get it working on my ich9 machine for the past few days to no avail though :/[22:07:35] <JonathanThompson> Where does it die?[22:08:10] <ddew|bofh> various points, mostly on "can't find boot-device" and vm error[22:08:27] <JonathanThompson> I suspect that's not exactly a driver issue.[22:08:40] <JonathanThompson> So, perhaps you'll be lucky with a later revision :)[22:08:52] <ddew|bofh> it can be a number of things :)[22:09:13] <JonathanThompson> When you have vm errors that are visible, it leaves the question open: how many are not clearly visible, hosing up things?[22:09:36] <ddew|bofh> excellent question[22:10:13] <ddew|bofh> pondering installing haiku on the ide-drive and see if it can find the sata-drive at all[22:11:26] <JonathanThompson> Well, time for me to wander back to work.[22:12:00] <ddew|bofh> have fun[22:15:17] *** lorglas has quit IRC[22:17:54] *** oco has joined #haiku[22:18:38] *** magnetron has quit IRC[22:18:56] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[22:24:05] <dr_evil> "<ddew|bofh> been trying to get it working on my ich9 machine for the past few days to no avail though" did you file a bug report?[22:27:42] *** BePower has quit IRC[22:28:13] *** agony_ has quit IRC[22:29:51] *** agony_ has joined #haiku[22:33:12] *** DeadYak has quit IRC[22:37:27] *** Purposeless has joined #haiku[22:40:48] <ddew|bofh> dr_evil: still working on it[22:41:45] <ddew|bofh> got haiku booting from an ide disk and seeing if it recognizes the sata at all and to what extent[22:42:01] <ddew|bofh> so far it looks like it's semi-working[22:47:36] <dr_evil> you could open a bug report and attach serial debug output[22:49:30] *** Euver has quit IRC[22:51:12] <ddew|bofh> grabbing the serial output is the problem, trying to find a machine with serial ports i can grab it on :)[22:54:17] *** Purposeless has quit IRC[22:57:27] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[22:57:34] <miqlas> Hello![22:58:27] <miqlas> I have some problems with my BeOS...[22:59:03] <miqlas> The Net+ dont found the libnetwork.so lib, the other programs dont found the libsocket.so.[22:59:06] <miqlas> Why?[23:02:22] <emitrax_> no idea :)[23:02:38] <emitrax_> has it ever worked ?[23:04:21] <miqlas> yes.[23:04:53] <miqlas> I used the net+, but i installed someHaiku modules (like mdr)[23:07:07] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[23:07:34] <miqlas> and now is not working.[23:09:06] <Ingenu> good night everyone[23:09:49] *** Ingenu has quit IRC[23:11:33] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[23:13:58] *** Begasus has quit IRC[23:16:27] *** MangoFusion has quit IRC[23:18:22] <CIA-5> axeld * r22488 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/bash/lib/readline/ (keymaps.c readline.c):[23:18:22] <CIA-5> Changed defaults in readline to be more useful. This fixes bug #1540.[23:18:22] <CIA-5> Alternatively, we could add an inputrc file - this would have the advantage[23:18:22] <CIA-5> that other apps using readline built-in would have those, too.[23:18:22] <CIA-5> OTOH this really should be in the defaults, too, IMO (ie. we could do both).[23:18:22] <CIA-5> Opinions welcome :-)[23:19:37] *** wildur has quit IRC[23:20:38] <emitrax_> miqlas: did you try looking for that libs ?[23:22:35] <miqlas> i dont found this libs.[23:22:41] <miqlas> can somebody send to me?[23:22:50] <miqlas> (BeOS R5.0.3!!!!)[23:25:06] <miqlas> i installed the Haiku rtl8139 , Haiku maildaemon and the Haiku usb_scsi packages.[23:25:15] <miqlas> and now i cant use my programs.[23:25:57] <oco> miqlas : maybe you should take those packages to find what you need http://bebits.com/app/2680[23:29:47] <miqlas> You think the DevTools?[23:29:52] <miqlas> Or what?[23:29:58] <miqlas> Sorry for my english[23:30:31] *** MauriceK has quit IRC[23:30:50] <oco> no, BeOS R5 Personal Edition (and i am not english, so...)[23:31:27] <miqlas> I have BeOS.[23:31:34] <miqlas> BeOS Hungarian Edition :)[23:32:14] <oco> but maybe the problem is that you use a rtl8139 for haiku instead of a BeOS one and the network could not start[23:32:27] <oco> so you have the missing files ?[23:33:26] <miqlas> The network is workin.[23:33:39] <miqlas> I use the BeOs now, with firefox and vision.[23:33:55] <miqlas> But i cant use the MDR, the Net+, The BeMSN, etc...[23:34:06] <miqlas> I dont have the missing files.[23:35:41] <miqlas> What can i do now?[23:35:59] <oco> have you an install CD ?[23:37:45] <miqlas> Yes.[23:37:52] <miqlas> I dont found this files on the cd.[23:37:57] <miqlas> Do You have this files?[23:38:24] <miqlas> I try to use the Original BeOS rtl8139 drivers......[23:38:27] <miqlas> maybe....[23:38:55] <miqlas> try....[23:38:58] <miqlas> reboot...[23:38:59] <miqlas> 3.[23:39:00] <miqlas> 2.[23:39:01] <miqlas> 1.[23:39:02] <miqlas> 0.[23:39:05] <miqlas> bye-bye![23:39:08] *** miqlas has quit IRC[23:39:52] *** axeld has joined #Haiku[23:39:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[23:40:39] <emitrax_> looks who's around[23:42:37] <ddew|bofh> there, bug filed :)[23:42:37] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[23:42:42] <miqlas> Hmmm....[23:42:45] <ddew|bofh> hopefully it's clear enough[23:42:52] <miqlas> Hmmm....[23:43:08] <miqlas> I try the rtl8139 driver, but nothing happend[23:43:42] <oco> miqlas : libnetwork is an haiku library so you use an haiku version of mdr and not a BeOS R5 one[23:46:40] <CIA-5> jackburton * r22489 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)[23:46:40] <CIA-5> I was wrong after all. InsertText() doesn't call SetRunArray() (and[23:46:40] <CIA-5> hence CancelInputMethod()), but it implements part of it. To avoid code[23:46:40] <CIA-5> duplication, I added a private _SetRunArray() call, which does most of[23:46:40] <CIA-5> the work, except cancelling the input method, and calling Refresh().[23:46:40] <CIA-5> Removed some unneeded code from CancelInputMethod(), some small changes[23:46:43] <CIA-5> in HandleInputMethodChanged.[23:47:19] <oco> miqlas : and for BeMSN, you should use the netserver one instead of the bone one as libsocket is bone's only library (http://bebits.com/app/3443)[23:48:51] <CIA-5> jackburton * r22490 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/TextView.cpp: and there, the usual commit which removes the forgotten debug output...[23:49:57] *** Grackle has joined #haiku[23:50:12] *** Stargater has quit IRC