September 30, 2007 
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September 30, 2007 [00:02:19] *** breihan has quit IRC[00:02:20] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[00:05:40] * pyCube plays a lightly and mutedly plucked, crazy tempo'd, discordant variation of 'while my guitar gently weeps'[00:10:26] *** CIA-5 has quit IRC[00:11:18] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[00:11:57] *** urnenfeld has left #haiku[00:12:07] *** Thom_r5 has quit IRC[00:14:45] *** stargater has quit IRC[00:14:57] *** bebers has joined #haiku[00:19:13] *** Stargater has joined #haiku[00:19:21] <Stargater> re[00:20:26] <bebers> http://tubeimage.com/viewer.php?file=cpr097wo8xau0587v6z6.jpg[00:20:39] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[00:21:37] *** CIA-5 has joined #haiku[00:22:25] *** Kernel86_ has joined #Haiku[00:23:34] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[00:25:50] *** Stargater has quit IRC[00:26:24] *** Stargater has joined #haiku[00:39:04] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[00:45:00] *** Kernel86_ has quit IRC[00:45:32] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[00:46:54] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[00:54:01] *** ken has joined #haiku[00:57:30] *** Stargater has quit IRC[00:58:05] *** Stargater has joined #haiku[01:16:56] <pyCube> kids are funny.. somehow "clean your room" gets translated into kid as "make some portion of the room less crap filled than the others, creating a zone of relative clean"[01:18:35] <MrSunshine> pyCube, hehe :)[01:19:02] <MrSunshine> thats how i think still, at 23 ... i think .. or am i 24?[01:19:07] <MrSunshine> humm ... i think im 23 :P[01:19:11] *** Stargater has quit IRC[01:19:14] <pyCube> hehe[01:20:54] <MrSunshine> main reason, i have to much stuff to make it just go away :P[01:21:34] *** Darknesss has quit IRC[01:23:25] *** ken is now known as kennyjb402[01:23:54] <pyCube> hehe.. thats what they all say[01:24:25] <pyCube> when i offer to rid them of the burden of crap that they will have to put away, they dont seem too keen on getting rid of anything[01:24:46] *** _Lucretia_ has quit IRC[01:25:29] *** _Lucretia_ has joined #haiku[01:29:10] <DeadYak> pyCube: my personal favorite is when "clean your room" translates into "stuff everything under the bed or into the closet so the outside looks clean"[01:29:22] <pyCube> hehe[01:29:26] <MrSunshine> DeadYak, thats also a good variant :P[01:29:29] <DeadYak> I've been seriously impressd by how much you can stuff under a bed though when you really want to[01:29:32] <MrSunshine> i stored everything in my fathers bed :P[01:30:41] <pyCube> i remember discovering the 'spread it out' method... like, track some dirt onto a carpet.. dont bother with a vaccum cleaner or anything, simply spread it around and it "goes away"[01:30:49] <DeadYak> haha[01:31:14] <pyCube> dirt only looks bad when its like all near other dirt[01:31:16] <pyCube> heheh[01:32:03] <pyCube> also applies to cracker crumbs, etc[01:38:47] *** DC1 has joined #haiku[01:40:09] *** SDr has joined #haiku[01:43:20] *** MikeW has quit IRC[01:43:59] *** Deffy_Lappy has joined #Haiku[01:49:21] *** wildur has quit IRC[02:04:15] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[02:04:21] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[02:10:09] *** CIA-5 has quit IRC[02:23:05] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[02:32:29] *** CIA-24 has joined #haiku[02:32:57] *** frodobeg has quit IRC[02:33:03] *** magnetron has quit IRC[02:48:40] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[02:52:09] <CIA-24> bonefish * r22379 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/tty/tty.cpp:[02:52:09] <CIA-24> Notifying readers and select() takes canonical input processing into[02:52:09] <CIA-24> account when checking for the number of readable bytes. For readers[02:52:09] <CIA-24> it doesn't make a difference, since they were looping anyway, but[02:52:09] <CIA-24> select() would report read-availability incorrectly.[02:53:41] *** cyrann has joined #haiku[02:54:00] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[02:57:09] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[02:59:23] *** oco has quit IRC[02:59:44] *** flyinghippo has joined #haiku[03:00:11] *** Penix has quit IRC[03:00:27] *** Penix has joined #haiku[03:27:58] *** Disreali has quit IRC[03:33:37] *** Purposeless has joined #haiku[03:33:49] <Purposeless> anyone in here know how to turn off zetas 'infoserver'?[03:34:39] <JT-stretching> Press Control+Alt+Delete :)[03:35:07] <JT-stretching> (And then select the application from the list)[03:35:35] <JT-stretching> I'm guessing that'll work (I don't have Zeta and have never used it in person)[03:35:46] <JT-stretching> But, I'm on BeOS 5.03 since it came out.[03:37:05] <Purposeless> i wonder about a permanent way. it crashes this system constantly.[03:37:34] <JT-stretching> Should be in the System boot script (can't be sure of the name)[03:39:04] *** M199 has joined #haiku[03:40:29] <JT-stretching> Look in the script named "Bootscript" in /boot/beos/system/boot (beos might be zeta in your case)[03:40:38] <JT-stretching> It's likely started in that script.[03:41:45] <Purposeless> yeah, found, edited[03:42:03] <Purposeless> zeta is such a hunk of crap. supports usb tho[03:42:18] <JT-stretching> Which version do you have?[03:42:22] <Purposeless> 1.21[03:42:33] <JT-stretching> Supposedly the last version was a bit better.[03:42:36] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[03:43:00] <JT-stretching> Though I still don't know if they fixed the P3 SMP bugs/lack of functionality, which was one technical reason for me not to bother.[03:45:47] *** MYOB has joined #haiku[03:46:30] <pyCube> nuh uh[03:48:11] *** bebers has quit IRC[03:48:34] *** kad77 has quit IRC[03:51:14] *** kad77 has joined #haiku[03:52:27] *** acidx has quit IRC[03:59:04] *** M_199 has quit IRC[04:01:10] *** cps1966 has joined #haiku[04:02:34] *** Purposeless has quit IRC[04:03:19] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[04:04:58] *** Kernel86 has joined #Haiku[04:16:31] *** MYOB has quit IRC[04:21:36] *** frodobeg has joined #haiku[04:37:40] *** CIA-24 has quit IRC[04:43:10] *** plfiorini has quit IRC[05:13:47] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[05:29:21] *** Karina`` has quit IRC[05:45:20] *** Cube-ness has quit IRC[05:45:21] *** pyCube has quit IRC[05:45:22] *** pyCube_ has joined #haiku[06:01:53] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[06:05:44] *** rainman has joined #haiku[06:05:55] * JT-stretching notes rainman is in the channel[06:06:02] *** JT-stretching is now known as JonathanThompson[06:06:42] <JonathanThompson> Definitely, definitely rainman[06:07:11] <rainman> :D[06:07:32] <JonathanThompson> Any reason you chose that as a nick, rainman?[06:07:52] <etteyafed_AWAY> rain keeps us wet[06:08:05] <rainman> meh.. that's what my friends used to call me in high school[06:08:23] <JonathanThompson> What, did you used to do long division and multiplication in your head all the time?[06:09:19] <rainman> no, but I was better at math than most of my class[06:09:44] <JonathanThompson> Oh, ok, perhaps I've more appropriately earned such a nickname than you have :)[06:10:07] <rainman> probably...[06:10:09] * JonathanThompson has been nicknamed in school (amongst other things) Einstein and Spock[06:10:28] <Ketsuban> Hey Einstein, I'm on your side![06:10:33] <JonathanThompson> Ok.[06:10:39] <etteyafed_AWAY> JonathanThompson has pointy ears ans can do alian martial arts.[06:10:44] * Ketsuban does a barrel roll.[06:10:53] <JonathanThompson> Yes: I'm a black belt in cat-stretching :)[06:11:00] * etteyafed_AWAY used to be called Jesus in HS[06:11:17] <DeadYak> in the spanish or middle eastern sense?[06:11:45] <JonathanThompson> Perhaps both, just to be purrplexing[06:11:53] <Ketsuban> So JT was Einstein for his intelligence, etteyafed was Jesus for being able to walk on water, and I was Winny because people thought I came out of the mouth of a horse?[06:12:04] <JonathanThompson> Nay[06:12:30] <etteyafed_AWAY> In the sense that I looked like the traditional percived version of Jesus. So mid east i guess.[06:12:30] <Ketsuban> Clever. Bet you can't keep these puns up furlong. ;)[06:12:36] * JonathanThompson wonders how often Einstein had numbers and math pop up in his dreams[06:12:59] <JonathanThompson> You don't know the depths of my punmanship, Ketsuban :)[06:13:08] <etteyafed_AWAY> and i wore sandals and burlap[06:13:20] <etteyafed_AWAY> it was an odd perion for me[06:13:28] <etteyafed_AWAY> period*[06:13:49] <etteyafed_AWAY> I am going to blame it on the pot.[06:14:08] * JonathanThompson hopes he's not a kettle, calling it black[06:14:50] <Ketsuban> <Pot> 'sup nigga. <Kettle> Yo dawg, thass racist![06:17:01] *** RAVTUX has joined #haiku[06:17:20] <RAVTUX> hi haiku users[06:17:43] <rainman> hi[06:17:51] <JonathanThompson> Greetings from the twineball, RAVTUX.[06:17:58] <etteyafed_AWAY> jello 'giiun[06:18:28] <RAVTUX> lovely to see plenty of life and greetings here[06:18:40] <RAVTUX> ;)[06:18:45] <JonathanThompson> Tonight I was on WA-520, slowed down in traffic, slowed down by a bull driving a car with an udderpowered engine.[06:19:32] <etteyafed_AWAY> JonathanThompson: I don't belive you.[06:19:50] <rainman> yeah, sounds like bull to me :P[06:19:51] <JonathanThompson> etteyafed_AWAY, I have to milk my reality for all it's worth![06:19:58] <RAVTUX> I honestly want to respond with: It sounds like bullshit[06:20:04] <JonathanThompson> So, you'd butter pay attention to what I say :)[06:20:22] <JonathanThompson> Otherwise, I might cream you :P[06:20:28] <RAVTUX> ;)[06:20:35] <etteyafed_AWAY> rough[06:20:49] <JonathanThompson> That's probably why cows don't wear bras: they'd constantly be creaming themselves :)[06:21:08] <RAVTUX> so listen, I have been attempting to build Haiku in Linux[06:21:18] <JonathanThompson> Not to mention, it's probably hard to find bras with a vitamin D cup.[06:21:26] * Hodapp stares[06:22:06] * JonathanThompson notes his puns may be like a dairy product, half-n-half: half good, half bad[06:22:10] <RAVTUX> take a look at my progression here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=562740&page=2[06:22:29] <JonathanThompson> Or, even worse, helf good, helf bad.[06:22:46] <RAVTUX> building the binutils is where I am stuck[06:22:51] <JonathanThompson> I won't re-veal my inspiration :)[06:23:09] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: have you been following leavengood's guide?[06:23:16] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: building it on Ubuntu's pretty easy[06:23:16] <RAVTUX> I drink Rice Milk do you think they feed the cow only rice?[06:23:44] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC[06:23:45] <RAVTUX> DeadYak: I am using Debian Lenny, just hang out on ubuntuforums[06:23:45] <JonathanThompson> Perhaps that's the result of letting a cow loose in a Chinese shop, RAVTUX :)[06:24:22] <RAVTUX> to be technical I use Elive Gem and have Debian Lenny enabled ;)[06:24:44] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: by the looks of that error, the haiku checkout failed[06:24:50] <DeadYak> err wait[06:24:54] <DeadYak> you're in buildtools/jam[06:25:02] <DeadYak> you're not going to be able to cd into haiku from there[06:25:05] <RAVTUX> jam is fine[06:25:15] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[06:25:27] <JonathanThompson> That udderpowered car had a safety issue that might cause a problem: its horn didn't work :)[06:25:38] <RAVTUX> do I need a CD?[06:25:43] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: no[06:25:48] <RAVTUX> good[06:25:50] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: haiku dir's at the top level with buildtools[06:26:05] <RAVTUX> ok[06:26:15] <DeadYak> you should have /home/ravtux/haiku, configure should be run from there[06:26:28] <RAVTUX> I have[06:26:34] * DeadYak blinks[06:26:43] * JonathanThompson sticks finger in DeadYak's eye[06:26:46] <DeadYak> your forum thread there seemed to indicate you were in the wrong dir when you tried to run configure[06:26:50] <JonathanThompson> Did I get it out, DeadYak?[06:27:12] <rainman> the finger or the eye?[06:27:17] <JonathanThompson> Yes![06:27:29] <RAVTUX> I think I entered something wrong[06:27:41] <JonathanThompson> Perhaps you entered the Twilight Zone, RAVTUX :)[06:27:47] <RAVTUX> or I am just not understanding the next step[06:28:07] <RAVTUX> JonathanThompson: I never left the Twilight Zone[06:28:16] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: ok so what step is failing for you at this point?[06:28:16] <JonathanThompson> If you enter "The Twlight Zone" be sure to use the backspace key/delete key before pressing return :)[06:29:34] <RAVTUX> DeadYak: I am stuck at binutils[06:30:05] <RAVTUX> Building binutils[06:30:14] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: um.....[06:30:23] <RAVTUX> This should be done in the terminal right?[06:30:31] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: that last post of yours refers to making a BeOS 5 cross compiler, it's not relevant to building Haiku's tool chain[06:30:44] <etteyafed_AWAY> in terminal and from inside your haiku/ dir[06:30:50] <etteyafed_AWAY> not the buildtools dir[06:31:05] <DeadYak> cd ~/haiku ; ./configure --build-cross-tools ../buildtools/[06:31:10] <DeadYak> should be all you have to do for the compiler stage[06:31:11] <RAVTUX> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3444980&postcount=1 scroll down to the end of this post[06:31:26] <RAVTUX> ahh my command was wrong[06:31:41] <DeadYak> which?[06:32:10] <rainman> cd buildtools/jam[06:32:13] <RAVTUX> cd ~/haiku ; ./configure --build-cross-tools ../buildtools/[06:32:13] <RAVTUX> bash: cd: /root/haiku: No such file or directory[06:32:22] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: umm, do that as user ravtux[06:32:24] <DeadYak> not as root[06:32:46] <RAVTUX> crap, it's that simple...![06:33:01] <DeadYak> at least based on your post you checked it out into ravtux's home dir[06:33:12] <JonathanThompson> The most complicated realities in theory are often that simple in practice, RAVTUX :)[06:33:35] <RAVTUX> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/ravtux/haiku/generated': Permission denied[06:33:42] * DeadYak blinks[06:33:51] * JonathanThompson sticks finger in eye again[06:33:59] <DeadYak> were you su'd to root when you checked it out or something?[06:34:06] <etteyafed_AWAY> that is because he svn co it as root[06:34:12] <DeadYak> right[06:34:42] <RAVTUX> remember I am on elive, which doesn't use sudo but su instead[06:34:55] <rainman> # chown ravtux:ravtux ~/haiku -R[06:35:03] <etteyafed_AWAY> just do sudo chown USERNAME /home/$HOME/haiku[06:35:15] <etteyafed_AWAY> then do sudo chgrp USERNAME /home/$HOME/haiku[06:35:34] <etteyafed_AWAY> then use su and exit after[06:35:53] <RAVTUX> so first:[06:35:56] <RAVTUX> chown ravtux:ravtux ~/haiku -R[06:35:58] <RAVTUX> ?[06:36:05] <DeadYak> yes[06:36:06] <etteyafed_AWAY> i use sudo for single commands and su for stuff that will take awhile.[06:36:35] <etteyafed_AWAY> yeah i forgot -R[06:36:42] <rainman> when do you use sudo su?[06:37:18] <etteyafed_AWAY> sudo su to get to su with no passwd if i have recently sudoed[06:37:28] <etteyafed_AWAY> :[06:37:33] <etteyafed_AWAY> p[06:38:31] <RAVTUX> ravtux is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.[06:39:06] <RAVTUX> chown: cannot access `/root/haiku': No such file or directory[06:39:07] <etteyafed_AWAY> well don;t use sudo if you dont have it setup, it is not mandatory, su will work just as well fot this[06:39:10] * JonathanThompson notes his BeOS running is at < 2 megs memory shown free in About BeOS and wonders when something will keel over[06:39:30] <RAVTUX> when I use su I get this: chown: cannot access `/root/haiku': No such file or directory[06:39:45] * etteyafed_AWAY wonders if he should mail JonathanThompson another 256MB of ram[06:39:53] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: chown -R ravtux /home/ravtux/haiku[06:39:58] <rainman> it should be /home/ravtux/haiku[06:40:10] <rainman> when you're root, ~ == /root[06:40:10] <etteyafed_AWAY> use /home/username/haiku[06:40:12] * JonathanThompson notes more RAM would be great, and hopes DaaT doesn't catch wind of it[06:40:40] <etteyafed_AWAY> JonathanThompson: ??[06:40:51] <JonathanThompson> RAM=male sheep[06:40:55] <JonathanThompson> Daat LOVES sheep.[06:41:01] <etteyafed_AWAY> oh yeah[06:41:13] <etteyafed_AWAY> i thought he was just into the girls[06:41:29] <RAVTUX> chown -R ravtux /home/ravtux/haiku[06:41:37] <etteyafed_AWAY> yepper[06:41:39] <DeadYak> etteyafed_AWAY: http://www.iscomputeron.com/ -- look at his logo, enough said.[06:41:54] <rainman> if you want to set up sudo, type echo "ravtux ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers[06:42:45] <etteyafed_AWAY> but that must be done with su ;)[06:42:51] <rainman> yup[06:43:10] <rainman> but afterward, su ceases to be necessary[06:43:15] <etteyafed_AWAY> yepp[06:43:16] <RAVTUX> done should I expect anything after this, or is the absense of a notice good?[06:43:19] <etteyafed_AWAY> unless you want it[06:43:26] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: no notice[06:43:30] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: now just exit su[06:43:34] <RAVTUX> good[06:43:36] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: and try that again[06:43:53] <rainman> and knock on wood with your fingers crossed[06:44:04] <RAVTUX> chown -R ravtux /home/ravtux/haiku[06:44:12] <DeadYak> no, the configure[06:44:34] * etteyafed_AWAY remembers when he has to call his friend to get the skinny on the linux terminal on RHL5.0[06:45:10] <etteyafed_AWAY> unless you did not do chown yet[06:45:30] <etteyafed_AWAY> had*[06:45:42] <RAVTUX> sudo chgrp ravtux /home/ravtux/haiku[06:46:05] <etteyafed_AWAY> that is good but not totally needed. but goog to do it anyhow[06:46:16] <RAVTUX> done[06:46:42] <etteyafed_AWAY> cd ~/haiku[06:46:56] <rainman> as ravtux, not root![06:47:06] <etteyafed_AWAY> and DeadYak's config cmd[06:47:09] <RAVTUX> ravtux@CafeLinux[~/haiku]$[06:47:14] * JonathanThompson hopes Haiku's VM (when completed) is far more responsive than BeOS 5.03's[06:47:26] <DeadYak> JonathanThompson: that's not a very difficult goal to achieve[06:47:36] <etteyafed_AWAY> JonathanThompson: No worried, it will be i am sure[06:47:49] <JonathanThompson> And if not, I can track down why not :)[06:47:52] <RAVTUX> so is this good? ravtux@CafeLinux[~/haiku]$[06:47:59] <etteyafed_AWAY> yes[06:48:00] <RAVTUX> cool[06:48:06] <DeadYak> though frankly if you're hitting swap that often then that should be your first clue to get a RAM upgrade[06:48:08] <etteyafed_AWAY> do the configure command[06:48:30] <etteyafed_AWAY> JonathanThompson hates numbers larger than 256[06:48:31] <JonathanThompson> Well, I've had SeaMonkey running for a bit, with quite a few tabs/windows open.[06:48:35] <etteyafed_AWAY> so get 1GB[06:48:39] <JonathanThompson> And we all know what a hog all of Mozilla is.[06:48:49] <RAVTUX> configuring! ;)[06:48:55] <JonathanThompson> etteyafed_AWAY, the laptop Bryan Varner sold me has 320 megs :)[06:49:08] * DeadYak hopes the buildtools dir doesn't also need to be chown'd...[06:49:11] <JonathanThompson> (But.... it seems to be less stable for other details, like sound)[06:49:53] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[06:51:04] <rainman> Damnit! Now I've got the Spiderman theme song in my head[06:51:13] <DeadYak> Spiderman, Spiderman...[06:51:16] <RAVTUX> done[06:51:17] <DeadYak> rainman: how'd you manage that?[06:51:18] * JonathanThompson sings "Spider Pig, Spider Pig!"[06:51:23] <DeadYak> JonathanThompson: haha[06:51:27] <DeadYak> JonathanThompson: Harry Plopper![06:51:35] <rainman> >SprMa has joined channel #haiku[06:51:48] <DeadYak> ah.[06:51:49] <JonathanThompson> Time to sing "Supercalifragilisticexpealidocious!"[06:52:00] <rainman> I looked at it fast and saw SpiderMan[06:52:07] <JonathanThompson> (Not sure if I spelled that according to specs)[06:52:12] <RAVTUX> take a look[06:52:15] <RAVTUX> http://pastebin.ca/720291[06:52:28] <RAVTUX> I have two errors at the bottom[06:52:40] <Ketsuban> To use my university's WebCT system I apparently need Java >=1.5, but that's not available on 64-bit systems. To whom do I direct my rage - the university, WebCT or Sun?[06:53:09] <JonathanThompson> the university.[06:53:10] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: sudo chown -R ravtux /home/ravtux/buildtools/[06:53:13] <JonathanThompson> Ultimately.[06:53:24] <SprMa> *yawn*[06:53:26] <JonathanThompson> Since they chose what software to use.[06:53:31] <SprMa> G'mornin everyone[06:53:36] <DeadYak> hiya[06:53:40] * JonathanThompson sticks chain-mail protected finger in SprMa's yawning mouth[06:54:14] <SprMa> JT, how many fingers have you left?[06:54:22] <JonathanThompson> All of them :)[06:54:30] <RAVTUX> sudo chown -R ravtux /home/ravtux/buildtools/[06:54:33] <RAVTUX> done[06:54:35] <SprMa> good chainmail![06:54:40] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: now try configure again[06:54:46] <RAVTUX> ok[06:54:56] <rainman> mmmmm... chainmail.... <gargle>[06:55:27] <JonathanThompson> rainman, have you yet gotten the impression that we're all a bit looney in here?[06:55:28] <SprMa> actually I've got a chainmail shirt complete with hud.[06:55:29] <RAVTUX> configuring[06:55:34] <etteyafed_AWAY> RAVTUX may end up needing to svn up his dirs[06:55:49] <RAVTUX> ok[06:55:55] <rainman> Why yes, I have.[06:56:38] <JonathanThompson> Well, at least I'm not the one in here that has been lactating at work :)[06:56:39] <DeadYak> etteyafed_AWAY: depends when he checked it out :)[06:57:19] <etteyafed_AWAY> rainman: do you really care though? DeadYak: or if the dload got everything[06:57:42] <DeadYak> etteyafed_AWAY: so far he's had only permission issues[06:58:21] <JonathanThompson> DeadYak, it's easier to ask forgiveness than to ask for permission :)[06:58:38] <etteyafed_AWAY> yeah, so we don't know. but every time i set this up on a new system i need to svn at least twice to get it all[06:58:59] <DeadYak> etteyafed_AWAY: didn't have that problem on my ubuntu box[06:59:14] <etteyafed_AWAY> JonathanThompson: Depends. A judge wont forgive easily and rape is a biggie[06:59:39] * JonathanThompson hopes etteyafed_AWAY isn't basing that on first-woman experience[06:59:52] <JonathanThompson> (Or man, or other creature)[07:00:11] <etteyafed_AWAY> DeadYak: you must have a better line to the server than i.[07:00:22] <DeadYak> etteyafed_AWAY: I guess[07:00:25] <JonathanThompson> Hey, the other night, he was a channel mod :)[07:00:34] <etteyafed_AWAY> JonathanThompson: No, just LnO SVU[07:00:44] <JonathanThompson> ?[07:01:05] <etteyafed_AWAY> Law and Order Special Victems Unit[07:01:37] <JonathanThompson> Ah, well, with today's Soccer Mom's, I'm just waiting for an SUV version to be shown: should be a hit :)[07:01:47] <DeadYak> haha.[07:01:58] <etteyafed_AWAY> that was heavy cream[07:02:30] <RAVTUX> binutils and gcc for cross compilation have been built successfully![07:02:51] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: ok, now just run jam[07:02:53] <etteyafed_AWAY> i can see the bad guy part now "Gunna get me a soccer mom! AND datt Crossover-SUV"[07:03:09] <JonathanThompson> (The one with a double bike rack)[07:03:30] <etteyafed_AWAY> w/the thule carry all[07:03:40] * JonathanThompson notes DeadYak knows what he'd name a visual diff application, and udders would groan at the word-play[07:04:20] <etteyafed_AWAY> imust know JonathanThompson[07:04:26] <RAVTUX> DeadYak: cd buildtools/jam ?[07:04:29] <etteyafed_AWAY> i mean the name[07:04:29] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: no[07:04:32] <RAVTUX> ok[07:04:33] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: from the haiku dir[07:04:37] <JonathanThompson> You'll get to know sooner or later, etteyafed_AWAY :)[07:04:38] <etteyafed_AWAY> not the person[07:05:02] <etteyafed_AWAY> unless your into that... ;P[07:05:09] <etteyafed_AWAY> jk[07:05:13] <JonathanThompson> I tend to keep out of people :)[07:05:34] <etteyafed_AWAY> OOH- k[07:05:45] * rainman returns, holding a sandwich and beer[07:06:03] <RAVTUX> DeadYak: I'm a bit confused on this step[07:06:08] <etteyafed_AWAY> i want a roastbeef sandwich atm[07:06:22] <rainman> I've got ham[07:06:33] * JonathanThompson POOFS etteyafed_AWAY into a roast beef sandwich[07:06:43] <JonathanThompson> Have you got green eggs to go with it?[07:06:48] <rainman> dibs![07:06:51] <RAVTUX> how about vegan pepperoni?[07:06:57] <RAVTUX> ;)[07:06:59] <etteyafed_AWAY> nah, its all wrong JT. I wanna eat one[07:07:00] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: cd ~/haiku ; jam[07:07:03] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: nothing more to it[07:07:09] <RAVTUX> cool[07:07:14] <JonathanThompson> Unless they can make it feel and taste like the deadmeat variety, I'm thinking, don't bother with vegy version :)[07:07:49] <RAVTUX> it actually does[07:07:52] *** CIA-5 has joined #haiku[07:07:59] <RAVTUX> ...patience...[07:08:00] <etteyafed_AWAY> lettuce goes good on it hows that[07:08:28] <etteyafed_AWAY> i bet the way the make it makes it worse for you than the real meat[07:08:30] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: it does that while it's calculating dependencies[07:08:51] <rainman> worse for you, better for the cow[07:09:10] <rainman> it's a trade off[07:09:35] <etteyafed_AWAY> to the butcher with the cow. that is thheir reason for being. cows wouldn't survive without us[07:09:52] <RAVTUX> ok it's working like crazy[07:09:57] * JonathanThompson suspects PETA would say "That's udder BS!"[07:10:06] <JonathanThompson> Which would indicate a deformed cow, of course :)[07:10:08] <RAVTUX> I honestly don't know what to expect next[07:10:16] *** frodobeg has quit IRC[07:10:17] <RAVTUX> apt-get moo[07:10:19] <DeadYak> RAVTUX: that's going to build an image file that you can run in VMWare[07:10:24] <RAVTUX> cool[07:10:25] <etteyafed_AWAY> well some would live but natural selection would take a massive toll[07:10:37] <etteyafed_AWAY> they are every stupid[07:10:38] <RAVTUX> I have been wanting to use Haiku for years[07:11:19] <RAVTUX> I have used and tested about 500+ Linux, BSD, OpenSolaris distro (mostly Linux)[07:11:25] <rainman> then again, maybe they would have evolved into stronger and more intelligent creatures if we hadn't domesticated them[07:11:33] <RAVTUX> built two of my own distros[07:12:08] <etteyafed_AWAY> rainman: of course they would have. but the cows of today are not the same animals of 20000 years ago[07:12:14] <RAVTUX> heres one: http://cafelinux.org/OzEnterprise/[07:12:25] <etteyafed_AWAY> they weren't cows really then[07:12:34] <RAVTUX> DeadYak: I have honestly never used VMware[07:12:52] <RAVTUX> but I believe I have installed if not I can apt-get it[07:13:18] <etteyafed_AWAY> you can usee qemu also, it is easier to set up and you need to run qemu-img convert to congert the .image to a .vmdk anyhow[07:13:33] <RAVTUX> ok[07:13:58] *** frodobeg25 has joined #haiku[07:14:07] <DeadYak> bbiab, snack run[07:14:26] <etteyafed_AWAY> vmware player is very nice but not that great i like vmware server and the console viewer, so i can use my vm from any comp in the house[07:14:56] <RAVTUX> I actually have Qemu as my default emulator on Elive Gem[07:15:08] * etteyafed_AWAY is really away again[07:15:45] <etteyafed_AWAY> yeah, try that first if you already have it. you might have trouble getting the net up at first[07:15:48] * JonathanThompson glues etteyafed_AWAY's foot to the desk[07:16:36] * etteyafed_AWAY whips his tube of GOOGONE out of the bottom drawer.[07:16:50] * etteyafed_AWAY IS FREE AGAIN![07:17:06] * JonathanThompson magnetically attaches etteyafed_AWAY to an eternal bit of metal of the opposite polarity[07:17:18] <JonathanThompson> 1000 pound holding force![07:17:41] * etteyafed_AWAY can deal with that since he is going to sleep now anyway,[07:18:09] *** etteyafed_AWAY is now known as etteyafed_aWaY[07:21:39] <RAVTUX> it's still going[07:26:35] <RAVTUX> ok it's done if anybody is still up ;)[07:26:57] * JonathanThompson sees if he's tipped over yet[07:27:15] <RAVTUX> http://pastebin.ca/720317[07:27:17] <JonathanThompson> Now, go forth and execute, and make bug reports for what you find wrong that's not already listed :)[07:27:39] <RAVTUX> JonathanThompson: do I just fire up Qemu?[07:27:47] <RAVTUX> I have never used it before[07:28:05] <JonathanThompson> I'm not entirely sure: I've not run Haiku under emulation.[07:28:12] <RAVTUX> ahh[07:28:23] <rainman> from the terminal, you can just type qemu <image file name>[07:28:26] <JonathanThompson> I have only run Haiky on real hardware, and I've never used Qemu at all.[07:28:45] <RAVTUX> rainman: qemu haiku ?[07:28:57] <RAVTUX> not in root?[07:29:00] <rainman> if the image is simply called haiku[07:29:03] <rainman> no not as root[07:29:07] <JonathanThompson> Seems like it has succeeded.[07:29:08] <RAVTUX> ok[07:29:28] <RAVTUX> YES! I have success[07:29:38] <rainman> :)[07:29:42] <RAVTUX> let me fire up Qemu now[07:30:30] <RAVTUX> qemu haiku[07:30:31] <RAVTUX> qemu: could not open hard disk image 'haiku'[07:30:43] <rainman> I guess it would be qemu ~/haiku/generated/haiku.image[07:32:30] <RAVTUX> rainman: yes![07:32:36] <RAVTUX> I have Haiku!!![07:32:39] <RAVTUX> runnning[07:32:50] <rainman> <Mr. Burns>excellent</Mr. Burns>[07:32:54] <JonathanThompson> You'd better catch it before another n gets added :)[07:33:14] <rainman> oh no, here they comennnnnn[07:33:45] <RAVTUX> it says Welcome to haiku shell[07:33:57] <RAVTUX> but I have no idea what to do with it?[07:34:04] <RAVTUX> ;)[07:34:06] <JonathanThompson> I'm guessing you've got Tracker and Deskbar also running?[07:34:18] <RAVTUX> whaaa?[07:34:31] <JonathanThompson> Hmmm....[07:34:42] <RAVTUX> tracker[07:34:47] <RAVTUX> terminal 1[07:34:54] <RAVTUX> deskbar?[07:35:02] <RAVTUX> want a screenshot?[07:35:04] <rainman> in the top right corner, is there a button with a blue leaf[07:35:11] <JonathanThompson> Deskbar provides the menu of things starting with Haiku.[07:35:42] <RAVTUX> yes[07:36:01] <RAVTUX> and a blue feather[07:36:13] <JonathanThompson> Sounds like it's all running, then.[07:36:54] <rainman> is it a feather? i always thought it was a leaf[07:37:25] <JonathanThompson> Guess we'll have to ask :)[07:37:53] <RAVTUX> I have the first bug[07:38:10] <rainman> what is it[07:38:17] <RAVTUX> I think it's a gnat flying on my monitor screen[07:38:24] <RAVTUX> ;)[07:38:37] <JonathanThompson> Don't file it: it's not repeatable :P[07:38:55] <rainman> yes it is, i just replicated it[07:39:18] <JonathanThompson> Well, at least it's a bug you can squash without getting the Haiku developers involved :)[07:39:47] <rainman> :D[07:40:51] *** SDragon has joined #haiku[07:40:58] *** SDr has quit IRC[07:42:07] <RAVTUX> ok guys how do I open a file?[07:42:17] <RAVTUX> open a program?[07:42:39] <RAVTUX> I can get to the menu but how do I open the program?[07:42:55] <rainman> find the program you want and click on it[07:43:00] <JonathanThompson> Not too different from how most GUI's start programs.[07:43:14] <RAVTUX> ok, let me try again[07:43:16] <JonathanThompson> rainman, you weren't supposed to be that explanatory :)[07:43:47] <rainman> sorry. my bad[07:44:23] <SprMa> Awwww. Too bad. I just started Haiku on my old P-II400 (which runs R5 with all hardware just smooth). Only VESA graphics and no network.[07:44:40] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[07:45:31] * SprMa tops up his spare-parts box to see if there's a RTL8139 left[07:47:07] <RAVTUX> ok guys the menu comes up, I can scroll through the menu but when I click to make a selection the menu minimizes and nothing comes up[07:47:29] <JonathanThompson> What did you click on?[07:47:48] <RAVTUX> praticully everything[07:48:18] <RAVTUX> DeskCalc[07:48:20] <JonathanThompson> ...[07:48:36] <JonathanThompson> How much RAM do you have specified for that VM?[07:48:46] <RAVTUX> Launchbox[07:49:09] <RAVTUX> I am not sure, where do I set that up? in Qemu?[07:49:23] <SprMa> Ah. My significant other arises![07:49:32] <JonathanThompson> No clue have I, but that'd be my first guess.[07:49:41] <JonathanThompson> (I've not used Qemu, as previously stated)[07:49:43] <SprMa> Sorry ladies, I've got to prepare breakfast![07:49:47] <rainman> default for qemu is 128[07:50:02] *** SprMa has quit IRC[07:50:13] <rainman> to change it, run with -m MEMORY[07:50:20] <JonathanThompson> I'd advise specifying it to give no less than 256 megs.[07:50:39] <JonathanThompson> The Haiku VM still has gaping holes, and if it has less, you may not be able to launch anything.[07:51:54] <RAVTUX> ok[07:54:32] <JonathanThompson> Have you restarted with more RAM specified?[07:55:35] <rainman> try qemu ~/haiku/generated/haiku.image -m 300[07:55:39] *** flyinghippo has quit IRC[07:56:46] * JonathanThompson wonders if Haiku would react strangely to being given a fictional machine RAM amount[07:57:04] <RAVTUX> restarting now[07:57:07] <JonathanThompson> That's such an odd amount: I'd say give it 320.[07:57:38] <rainman> or 327.5[07:57:45] <RAVTUX> how about 384?[07:57:53] <rainman> NO![07:57:54] <JonathanThompson> Sure, why not :)[07:58:12] <JonathanThompson> If you've got it, why not a gig?[07:58:47] <rainman> RAVTUX, how much do you have?[07:58:48] <JonathanThompson> (That'll delay the time when it hits the wall due to not releasing all VM structures)[07:59:13] <RAVTUX> ok so I can run a command in the terminal[07:59:20] <rainman> yup[07:59:24] *** SDragon has quit IRC[07:59:28] *** SDr has joined #haiku[07:59:30] <RAVTUX> like with DeskCal[07:59:45] <RAVTUX> it adds the button to the menu[07:59:58] <RAVTUX> but when I click on that it says no window[08:00:12] <rainman> hmm so it thinks it's open, but it isn't[08:00:25] <RAVTUX> perhaps[08:00:28] <DeadYak> it's open, just hasn't necessarily spawned a window at that point[08:04:03] * JonathanThompson woders how slow Qemu is, and what sort of machine RAVTUX is running it on[08:04:43] <rainman> you can speed up qemu on linux by installing kqemu[08:05:37] <RAVTUX> here's a screenshot[08:05:41] <RAVTUX> http://cafelinux.org/OptickleArt/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0[08:06:17] <JonathanThompson> Something got lost in your copy/paste.[08:06:44] <JonathanThompson> Hmmm... I can't reach cafelinux.org from here.[08:07:16] <JonathanThompson> Or maybe I can....[08:07:31] <JonathanThompson> SeaMonkey did a weird one on me.[08:07:52] <RAVTUX> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=44850&d=1191132447[08:08:05] <rainman> I can see the thumbnail, but the full image isn't loading[08:08:19] <RAVTUX> same image hosted in two different places, try ubuntuforums[08:08:34] <rainman> alrighty[08:09:17] <JonathanThompson> Well, I see your screenshot.[08:09:35] <JonathanThompson> type ps -a -l in your Terminal.[08:10:05] <RAVTUX> in the haiku terminal?[08:10:05] <JonathanThompson> Also, chances are you should be able to see it in Twitcher by pressing Control+Alt+Delete and seeing if it's listed as a running application.[08:12:56] <RAVTUX> take a look at this:[08:12:59] <RAVTUX> http://pastebin.ca/720343[08:13:53] <rainman> yeah, so follow those instructions[08:13:59] <JonathanThompson> You seem to have a Linux resource problem, causing probably a Haiku resource problem :)[08:15:10] <rainman> just do umount /dev/shm && mount -t tmpfs -o size=400m none /dev/shm as root[08:15:40] <pyCube> duh[08:18:27] <RAVTUX> qemu ~/haiku/generated/haiku.image -m 256[08:18:28] <RAVTUX> Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated: No such file or directory[08:19:03] <RAVTUX> it works![08:19:20] <RAVTUX> well the calculator works ;)[08:19:20] <rainman> yippie[08:19:36] <RAVTUX> now I can add and subtract ;)[08:19:49] <rainman> sweet[08:21:53] <RAVTUX> ok some practical questions[08:22:07] <RAVTUX> how do I make it full screen?[08:22:18] <RAVTUX> is there a web browser?[08:22:19] <JonathanThompson> Qemu?[08:22:23] <RAVTUX> yes[08:22:33] <RAVTUX> Haiku in qemu[08:22:38] <JonathanThompson> Again, I've never used Qemu.[08:22:49] <RAVTUX> no worries I can google it[08:23:09] <RAVTUX> in Haiku is there a screenshot application and a web browser?[08:23:18] <rainman> ctrl+alt+f[08:23:35] <RAVTUX> rainman: same to exit?[08:23:40] <rainman> yup[08:23:51] <RAVTUX> also how do I install Haiku to my harddrive[08:24:08] <RAVTUX> I read some where that I can add it to grub[08:24:15] <rainman> make a bfs partition, and copy the contents of the image[08:24:30] <rainman> afterwards, you can add it to grub[08:24:45] <RAVTUX> bfs? big f-cking sh-t?[08:24:49] <RAVTUX> lol[08:24:53] <DeadYak> Be File System[08:25:00] * JonathanThompson slaps RAVTUX silly[08:25:01] <RAVTUX> ahh yes[08:25:09] <RAVTUX> lol[08:25:20] <rainman> as for the apps you mentioned, you should be able to find them on BeBits[08:25:20] <RAVTUX> ok I have two hard drives[08:25:21] * JonathanThompson hands DeadYak salmon to commence with further slapping[08:25:44] <RAVTUX> one hard drive I have XP[08:25:49] <rainman> but haiku can't see either of them, right?[08:26:07] <RAVTUX> on the other I have Elive Gem(Debian Lenny)[08:26:38] <rainman> you'll have to run qemu with -hdb /dev/hdXY if you want haiku to see one of your real hard drives[08:26:44] <rainman> and you'll have to do it as root[08:26:47] <JonathanThompson> Fair warning applies: running Haiku on real hardware with access to valuable data is foolish if you value it.[08:27:05] <RAVTUX> I have no valuable data[08:27:08] <RAVTUX> :)[08:27:13] <rainman> then let us proceed[08:27:33] <RAVTUX> I reinstall my operating systems too often for anything to be valuable[08:27:40] <rainman> :P[08:27:55] <RAVTUX> ok partitioning[08:28:24] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[08:28:27] <rainman> ok, so you can do it from haiku with qemu, or from r5 with real hardware[08:28:41] <RAVTUX> hmm[08:28:47] <RAVTUX> which is best?[08:28:55] <rainman> I'd say r5[08:29:16] <RAVTUX> r5 sounds fascinating[08:29:28] <RAVTUX> but I haven't a clue what the hell it is[08:29:39] <rainman> messing with partitions from inside linux could cause errors, although it's always worked for me...[08:29:42] <DeadYak> it's essentially the OS that inspired Haikui[08:29:55] <RAVTUX> hmm[08:30:05] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[08:30:13] <RAVTUX> r5 to be or not to be that is the question[08:30:14] <rainman> but if you don't have BeOS r5 installed, you might as well do it from haiku[08:30:26] <RAVTUX> ok[08:30:29] <RAVTUX> lets do it[08:30:39] <rainman> ok, first become root[08:31:13] <RAVTUX> ok[08:31:43] <RAVTUX> in Haiku?[08:31:56] <rainman> then type qemu -m 348(or whatever number you like > 256) -hda /home/ravtux/haiku/generated/haiku.image -hdb /dev/hdX, where hdX is the hard drive you want to use[08:32:00] <rainman> no in linux[08:32:21] <RAVTUX> hold on[08:32:40] <JonathanThompson> RAVTUX, BeOS 5.03 is the goal for Haiku R1 to be (mostly) binary compatible with.[08:33:40] <RAVTUX> I have never used BeOS but have only heard about how good it is[08:33:51] <RAVTUX> like a legendary myth[08:34:06] <rainman> yeah, you should try it someday[08:34:15] <JonathanThompson> Don't be hoodwinked into thinking it's "perfect" though :)[08:34:27] <JonathanThompson> (There's no such OS)[08:34:29] <RAVTUX> ;) good movie[08:34:40] <rainman> of course, hardware support has become quite limited over the years[08:35:17] <JonathanThompson> And BeOS 5.03 (and before) has a lot of hard-coded resource limits that aren't handled gracefully once you hit them.[08:35:37] <JonathanThompson> Granted, most people don't have my style of usage, so don't notice it as readily.[08:36:00] <RAVTUX> let me publish a screenshot[08:39:19] <RAVTUX> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=44853&d=1191134328[08:39:25] *** kr1stof_ has joined #haiku[08:39:54] <RAVTUX> So I am using Haiku in Enlightenment ;)[08:40:28] <MrSunshine> and dont use forums you have to register on if you are going to post pictures :P[08:40:45] <rainman> nice[08:40:53] <RAVTUX> qemu -m 348(or whatever number you like > 256) -hda /home/ravtux/haiku/generated/haiku.image -hdb /dev/hdX[08:41:21] <RAVTUX> MrSunshine: that image isn't showing up for you in ubuntuforums?[08:41:31] <MrSunshine> says i need to login[08:41:46] <RAVTUX> hold on, let me use my on place[08:41:47] <rainman> make sure to remove "(...)" and to replace hdX with either hda or hdb[08:41:50] <MrSunshine> You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:[08:43:24] <JonathanThompson> I get the same thing.[08:43:32] <RAVTUX> MrSunshine: just for you: http://cafelinux.org/OptickleArt/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0[08:43:43] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[08:43:52] <MrSunshine> haha, the server could not be resolved :P[08:44:00] <RAVTUX> my own website, it should be open to non-registered users[08:44:05] <JonathanThompson> Try again.[08:44:15] <JonathanThompson> It doesn't seem to work for me on the first attempt :)[08:44:16] <RAVTUX> Haiku in Enlightenment[08:44:19] <MrSunshine> dead as a fish :)[08:44:40] <JonathanThompson> I can get it.[08:44:47] <RAVTUX> bastard host I will kill him tomorrow for you MrSunshine! ;)[08:44:54] <JonathanThompson> (Oddly enough, considering how undependable SeaMonkey is on this machine)[08:45:03] <MrSunshine> goodie, remember to post pics of the carnage[08:45:03] <SprMa> Re:[08:45:06] <MrSunshine> or it didnt happend[08:45:14] <JonathanThompson> The first attempt failed, of course, like the previous first attempt.[08:45:20] <RAVTUX> odd[08:46:39] <SprMa> Is there a way to activate single-window navigation in R5.0.3 (Pro)?[08:47:12] <rainman> single-window navigation?[08:47:20] <rainman> for which app[08:47:25] <SprMa> Tracker windows[08:47:28] <RAVTUX> gentlemen it's 2:45 am here[08:47:31] <rainman> oh[08:47:49] <rainman> I think you have to get opentracker[08:47:49] <RAVTUX> I better get to sleep and continue with the install tomorrow[08:47:59] <JonathanThompson> The night's still young, RAVTUX :)[08:48:05] <RAVTUX> yeah[08:48:07] <SprMa> dbl-clicking a folder and this folder opens in the same window as it's parent[08:48:16] <rainman> it shouldn't take long if we get to it[08:48:48] <RAVTUX> rainman: can I use gparted?[08:48:54] <RAVTUX> Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it.[08:49:00] <rainman> no, it doesn't know bfs[08:49:05] <DeadYak> here's a tip from a coworker[08:49:08] <DeadYak> never use gparted while drunk[08:49:16] <DeadYak> (and yes he was speaking from experience)[08:49:47] <rainman> SprMa: I think the single-window feature was never implemented in Be, inc.'s Tracker, but was added in OpenTracker[08:49:54] <DeadYak> that is correct.[08:50:08] <RAVTUX> qemu -m 256) -sdb /home/ravtux/haiku/generated/haiku.image -sdb /dev/hdX[08:50:20] <DeadYak> though iirc you can hold shift to make the previous window close when you double click a new folder[08:50:23] <RAVTUX> since I don't dare touch sda[08:50:32] <rainman> take out that ) and replace X with a or b[08:50:35] <RAVTUX> except for grub[08:50:38] <DeadYak> or ctrl, I forget[08:50:47] <RAVTUX> sdb[08:51:09] <RAVTUX> qemu -m 256 -sdb /home/ravtux/haiku/generated/haiku.image -sdb /dev/sdb[08:51:23] <SprMa> I thougt so. I was rummaging around the system and didn't find it...[08:51:28] <rainman> not quite[08:51:31] <RAVTUX> hows that look?[08:51:36] <SprMa> Just downloaded the OT5.3[08:51:46] <SprMa> Seems like I've got to kill my desktop...[08:51:51] <SprMa> Stand back and watch[08:51:54] <rainman> qemu -m 256 -hda /home/ravtux/haiku/generated/haiku.image -hdb /dev/sdb[08:52:41] <RAVTUX> this will install on my second hard drive[08:53:01] <rainman> no, that will start haiku so that it sees your second hard drive[08:53:03] <RAVTUX> and create bfs[08:53:15] <RAVTUX> direct it then[08:53:22] <rainman> then you make a bfs partition and copy haiku onto it[08:53:32] <rainman> oh wait![08:53:39] <RAVTUX> ok here it goes[08:53:47] <RAVTUX> oh wait?[08:54:10] <RAVTUX> I almost exploded my computer[08:54:11] <rainman> I almost forgot, haiku doesn't currently include DriveSetup, so you have to make a blank partition in gparted first[08:54:21] <RAVTUX> crap[08:54:28] <RAVTUX> I hate gparted[08:54:41] <RAVTUX> ok[08:54:49] <RAVTUX> that damn gprated[08:54:56] <rainman> unless you're using the whole disk, or overwriting all of an existing partition[08:55:50] <RAVTUX> Ok I have gparted open in root[08:56:06] <RAVTUX> no I need to maintain my current installs[08:56:19] <RAVTUX> not need but would like to[08:56:26] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[08:56:27] <rainman> ok, now I trust you have some empty space somewhere, so just put a partition in it[08:56:34] <rainman> doesn't matter what fs[08:57:03] *** SprMa_ has joined #haiku[08:57:31] <SprMa_> $ sh: /boot/beos/system/Deskbar: Symbol not found[08:57:52] <SprMa_> Tracker seems to run[08:58:36] <RAVTUX> sdb2[08:58:45] <RAVTUX> reiserfs[08:58:53] <rainman> that's the partition you just made?[08:58:53] <RAVTUX> 148.03 GiB[08:59:01] <RAVTUX> this is existing[08:59:15] <RAVTUX> 5.41 GiB used[08:59:24] <rainman> ok, but is that where you're putting haiku[08:59:34] <RAVTUX> 142.62 GiB unused[08:59:45] <RAVTUX> nope that is my current Linux[09:00:06] <RAVTUX> sdb1 linux-swap[09:00:19] <rainman> is there any space left on the disk that isn't part of a partition[09:00:34] <RAVTUX> 1004.06 MiB[09:01:16] <RAVTUX> unused on sdb2 is 142.62 GiBs[09:01:31] <rainman> but sdb2 is a partition[09:01:42] <rainman> we want unused on sdb[09:01:47] <RAVTUX> I have to change it[09:01:52] <rainman> ?[09:02:13] <RAVTUX> let me think about this one[09:02:48] <RAVTUX> I will have to tackle this tommorow my head is too numb right now[09:03:00] <RAVTUX> I have to sleep[09:03:02] <rainman> ok[09:03:06] <rainman> g'night[09:03:21] <RAVTUX> rainman: I hope to see you tommorow evening[09:03:29] <RAVTUX> have a good night[09:03:37] <RAVTUX> and to all a good night[09:03:40] <rainman> thx[09:03:48] <RAVTUX> no Thank you[09:03:56] <RAVTUX> Thank you every body[09:04:34] <RAVTUX> good night[09:05:32] <rainman> well, I guess I'm off too[09:05:39] *** SprMa_ has quit IRC[09:05:43] <rainman> ;)[09:06:16] *** RAVTUX has left #haiku[09:06:19] *** rainman has quit IRC[09:11:20] *** SprMa has quit IRC[09:29:25] *** kr1stof_ is now known as kr1stof[09:29:44] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[09:32:53] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:39:20] *** magnetron has joined #haiku[09:40:10] *** DeadYak has quit IRC[09:41:42] *** Ingenu has joined #Haiku[09:43:03] *** cyrann has quit IRC[09:46:21] *** pyCube has quit IRC[09:47:21] *** gentoo_ has joined #haiku[09:50:00] *** pyCube has joined #haiku[09:51:27] *** Penix has quit IRC[09:51:44] *** Penix has joined #haiku[09:52:56] *** gentoo_ has left #haiku[09:55:01] <CIA-5> stippi * r22380 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/HaikuImage: * updated WonderBrush location to the new release[09:55:02] *** AlexForster has quit IRC[09:55:46] *** stippi has joined #haiku[09:55:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[10:01:48] *** DC1 has quit IRC[10:09:42] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[10:10:07] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[10:10:37] *** BePower has joined #haiku[10:11:57] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[10:12:21] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[10:26:20] *** SprMa has joined #haiku[10:35:16] *** SprMa has quit IRC[10:37:18] *** BuildFactory has joined #haiku[10:42:21] *** lorglas has joined #haiku[10:48:30] *** tombhad has joined #haiku[11:03:47] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[11:17:07] *** genkie has joined #haiku[11:21:15] *** salad has joined #haiku[11:21:57] *** HeTo has joined #haiku[11:25:50] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[11:28:06] *** emitrax has quit IRC[11:29:05] *** slaad has quit IRC[11:29:05] *** salad is now known as slaad[11:34:48] <CIA-5> stippi * r22381 /haiku/trunk/data/artwork/icons/ (131 files):[11:34:48] <CIA-5> * all the icons in native Icon-O-Matic format (including named paths, styles and[11:34:48] <CIA-5> shapes) which have so far been done for Haiku, the website and other apps[11:36:32] <CIA-5> axeld * r22382 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/vm/vm_page.cpp: (log message trimmed)[11:36:32] <CIA-5> * Decoupled the page_thief() from the low memory handler chain. This is[11:36:32] <CIA-5> necessary because low memory handlers might need to wait for other services[11:36:32] <CIA-5> while we need to make sure the page thief can always steal pages.[11:36:32] <CIA-5> * Made the page thief more aggressive when memory is critical: added a third[11:36:33] <CIA-5> run where it will also steal a small amount of active pages to keep things[11:36:36] <CIA-5> going.[11:43:54] *** emitrax_ has quit IRC[11:44:34] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[11:46:35] *** frankps has joined #haiku[11:49:06] <CIA-5> stippi * r22383 /haiku/trunk/data/artwork/icons/ (21 files): * put more website icons under version control[11:54:50] *** plfiorini has joined #haiku[12:19:42] <CIA-5> bonefish * r22378 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/fs/pipefs.cpp: (log message trimmed)[12:19:42] <CIA-5> * Use condition variables instead of semaphores for blocking readers and[12:19:43] <CIA-5> writers.[12:19:43] <CIA-5> * Removed the optimization for piping data between two threads of the[12:19:43] <CIA-5> same team. This greatly simplifies the code. It seems to me the case[12:19:43] <CIA-5> is very uncommon; it could be added back later, though.[12:19:44] <CIA-5> * Basically rewrote reading from and writing to the pipe:[12:28:12] *** lorglas has quit IRC[12:31:23] *** genkie has quit IRC[12:33:27] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[12:33:58] <Lelldorin1> hi all[12:34:07] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[12:44:50] *** slaad has quit IRC[12:48:32] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[12:48:58] *** slaad has joined #haiku[12:52:48] <CIA-5> axeld * r22384 /haiku/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)[12:52:48] <CIA-5> * Rewrote the trigger selection mechanism: it now searches for uppercase[12:52:48] <CIA-5> characters first, and then falls back to take everything. fTrigger is now[12:52:48] <CIA-5> uint32 and works with all unicode characters; unlike in BeOS, the[12:52:48] <CIA-5> MenuTriggerTest application now works correctly in Haiku.[12:52:50] <CIA-5> * fTriggerIndex is now a character position, not a byte position of the label;[12:52:53] <CIA-5> this allows BMenuItem::DrawContent() to draw the trigger at the correct[12:54:51] *** hUMUNGUz has joined #haiku[12:55:31] *** fyysik has quit IRC[13:00:36] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[13:11:15] *** Penix has quit IRC[13:11:30] *** Penix has joined #haiku[13:16:09] *** BuildFactory has quit IRC[13:16:20] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[13:19:32] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC[13:22:41] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[13:23:17] <dr_evil> hi stippi[13:24:56] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[13:26:46] *** pierpaolo has joined #haiku[13:27:10] <pierpaolo> hello[13:27:28] *** pierpaolo has quit IRC[13:27:37] <TuneTracker> Good morning[13:30:52] <Lelldorin1> thanx for new wonderbrush version Stamrogh[13:30:55] <Lelldorin1> lol stippi[13:31:04] <Lelldorin1> to fast with the TAB ;-)[13:31:14] <stippi> ah[13:31:19] <stippi> yeah, you are welcome![13:31:20] <Lelldorin1> looks nice[13:31:33] <stippi> not so much new stuff this time[13:32:01] <Lelldorin1> there is another little tutorial in german for wonderbrush on the besly, if you like, you can include it in your package too[13:32:16] <stippi> do you have a link ready?[13:32:36] <Lelldorin1> very little one... the oldest one ;-) http://www.besly.de/menu/search/archiv/gfx/wonderbrush_pix.html[13:33:01] <Lelldorin1> 3 languages[13:36:44] *** Thom_r5 has joined #haiku[13:37:01] <stippi> Lelldorin1: do you still work a lot with WonderBrush?[13:37:22] <Lelldorin1> no sorry i do not realy much work woith grafics on beos[13:37:46] <stippi> do you use other packages?[13:37:59] <Lelldorin1> windows corel photo paint[13:38:19] <stippi> what are you missing in WonderBrush compared to photo paint?[13:39:13] <Lelldorin1> i have seen that you have inlcude a palette reducer at saving a image, this was one of my most wanted, but can i see the result befor i save the image?[13:39:21] <Lelldorin1> i need check this[13:39:57] <stippi> it could be extended, right now, it only converts to the BeOS system palette, and no dithering[13:40:03] <stippi> but it does preview[13:40:16] <stippi> It's just like a regular filter[13:40:32] <stippi> but then it doesn't save PNGs with 256 or less colors[13:41:12] <Lelldorin1> yes[13:41:36] <Lelldorin1> there is a second tool that i need to worl[13:41:37] <Lelldorin1> k[13:41:53] *** Darknesss has joined #haiku[13:42:07] <Lelldorin1> but i dont know how to explain it[13:42:52] *** oco has joined #haiku[13:43:31] <Lelldorin1> with this tool i can color parts in a rect[13:44:28] *** TuneTracker has quit IRC[13:44:29] <stippi> like some kind of gradient?[13:44:32] *** emitrax_ has quit IRC[13:45:00] <stippi> need to boot into Haiku... ttyl[13:45:07] *** stippi has quit IRC[13:46:28] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[13:52:55] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[13:54:51] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[13:55:15] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[13:58:51] *** rcjsuen has joined #haiku[14:00:51] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[14:04:47] *** fyysik has quit IRC[14:06:12] *** emitrax_ has 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IRC[17:09:33] *** flyinghippo has quit IRC[17:10:04] *** etteyafed_aWaY is now known as etteyafed[17:12:52] <CIA-5> marcusoverhagen * r22386 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/busses/scsi/ahci/ (ahci_port.cpp ahci_port.h ahci_sim.cpp):[17:12:52] <CIA-5> Improved interrupt handling[17:12:52] <CIA-5> Removed DBC_I interrupt[17:12:52] <CIA-5> Reduce debug output[17:14:15] <stippi> too bad the commit mailing list is down...[17:14:59] * dr_evil does a first test now with enabled write support[17:16:32] <dr_evil> :/[17:16:33] <dr_evil> ahci: ScsiReadWrite: position 64511171072, size 1024, isWrite 1[17:16:33] <dr_evil> ahci: device error[17:16:33] <dr_evil> ahci: ScsiReadWrite: position 64454030848, size 1024, isWrite 0[17:16:33] <dr_evil> ahci: device is busy[17:16:33] <dr_evil> a[17:18:02] <dr_evil> stippi if you want to do a test, the version is svn now is save and simply ignores write requests[17:18:35] <stippi> ok cool[17:18:58] <stippi> unfortunately, I am messing in the app_server, debugging some possible deadlocks[17:19:12] <stippi> for now, I've changed it for worse... :-)[17:23:06] <dr_evil> stippi http://pastebin.com/m3ee112eb[17:24:20] <stippi> oh. device timeouts?[17:24:25] <dr_evil> I don't know what the kernel is doing when errors are reported, but it's strange[17:24:45] <dr_evil> I think I have to set a W bit for doing writes, thats is missing.[17:28:17] *** BePower has quit IRC[17:29:49] *** nille has joined #haiku[17:33:20] *** nille has left #haiku[17:37:36] <stippi> dr_evil: I don't think the kernel or bfs or whatever do a number of retries on timeouts, but maybe they should[17:39:19] <dr_evil> no I don't think that retries are usefull, harddisks already do that internally[17:39:44] <dr_evil> the strange thing is that it needs a couple of errors until it panics[17:43:27] <dr_evil> stippi I think the ahci driver is not related to the problem that I'm experiencing with booting not finishing completely on the new machine[17:45:24] *** tombhad has quit 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The driver should be useable now.[17:55:18] <Stamrogh> nice[17:56:17] * etteyafed bows to dr_evil. "All hail the AHCI wrangler."[17:59:07] <etteyafed> Does BeOS R5.03 have any SCSI support?[18:01:14] <Thom_r5> i'd hazard a guess at "no"[18:01:41] <etteyafed> Too bad. No big deal though.[18:02:05] <dr_evil> yes it did support scsi[18:02:17] <Stamrogh> hooo hoo cartman on the maury povich show... too good[18:02:18] <dr_evil> but probably only a fe controllers[18:02:21] *** BePower has joined #haiku[18:02:25] <dr_evil> few[18:03:55] <CIA-5> axeld * r22388 /haiku/trunk/src/ (6 files in 3 dirs):[18:03:55] <CIA-5> Correctly implemented the missing BBitmap::GetOverlayRestrictions() on the[18:03:55] <CIA-5> client and the server. This should fix bug #1490, but I haven't tested it yet.[18:06:33] <Stamrogh> a lot of activity... gives somewhat the feeling of being on the homestretch[18:06:40] <Stamrogh> to something :D[18:07:05] <judgen> etteyafed yes it does support scsi[18:07:13] <judgen> etteyafed even better than ATA even[18:11:24] <etteyafed> Well I have an Adaptec 7899G U160 card and 2x U160 drives that I might try. That is a pretty common family of controllers.[18:12:37] <etteyafed> judgen: I am perparing to make space on my machine with the 8168 to test that driver out, but I will be testing the new AHCI driver at the same time.[18:14:10] <etteyafed> The system is SATA, and all of my IDE disks are busy atm.[18:16:38] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[18:16:39] <etteyafed> although I *could* pull one that is a last resort since the disks in my server(the machine in question) are setup in a 4x250GB 0+1 RAID array w/LVM so it should be alot easier this way if the AHCI driver works for my system.[18:17:23] <etteyafed> Plenty of space and LVM makes life easy.[18:22:19] *** MikeW has quit IRC[18:26:10] <dr_evil> my buggy USB legacy emulation BIOS seems to NACK all mouse and keyboard commands :/[18:26:29] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[18:26:36] <stippi> etteyafed: R5 does have SCSI support[18:26:58] <stippi> etteyafed: Adaptec particularily, but I don't know if your controller is too new[18:31:37] <dr_evil> stippi it would really be great if you could test bootin from ahci[18:32:07] <stippi> dr_evil: just finished eating and am currently updating the tree on that machine... :-)[18:32:30] <stippi> am already very excited![18:34:53] <dr_evil> I'm pretty disappoint right now about the state of haiku on that new machine[18:35:08] <dr_evil> the ahci driver seems to work without issues, but:[18:35:41] <stippi> dr_evil: the moment of truth is drawing near... do you recommend configuring AHCI mode in the BIOS?[18:36:03] <stippi> dr_evil: so it#s nice that Rudolf is back... :-)[18:36:25] <stippi> sounds like a lock up[18:36:29] <dr_evil> stippi yes, enable that[18:36:34] <stippi> ok[18:36:55] <stippi> seems it's rebuilding the whole tree...[18:36:58] <dr_evil> this is my first test on a fast dual core machine, so smp issues might pop up[18:37:08] <stippi> hm[18:37:25] <stippi> I've been running Haiku on a dual core 1.8 GHz system[18:37:39] <stippi> there were no issues besides the ide stack[18:37:52] <dr_evil> ps2: ps2_reset_mouse[18:37:52] <dr_evil> ps2: ps2_dev_command cmd 0xff, out-count 0, in-count 2, dev input/mouse/ps2/0[18:37:52] <dr_evil> ps2: ps2_write_ctrl 0xd4[18:37:52] <dr_evil> ps2: ps2_write_data 0xff[18:37:52] <dr_evil> ps2: ps2_interrupt ctrl 0x71, data 0xfe (aux)[18:37:52] <dr_evil> ps2: ps2_dev_command wait for ack res 0x00000000, wait-time 14371[18:37:53] <dr_evil> ps2: ps2_dev_command got NACK[18:37:55] <stippi> how fast is yours?[18:37:56] <dr_evil> ps2: ps2_dev_command result 0x80000001[18:37:57] <dr_evil> ps2: reset mouse failed[18:38:33] <dr_evil> CPU 0: vendor 'Intel' model name 'Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz'[18:38:34] <dr_evil> C[18:38:45] <dr_evil> CPU 1: vendor 'Intel' model name 'Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz'[18:38:47] <stippi> yeah, that's a bit faster...[18:38:58] *** DeadYak has joined #haiku[18:39:03] <stippi> hi DeadYak![18:39:23] * frankps pets DeadYak[18:39:27] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[18:39:45] <dr_evil> the ps2 problem is strange, the BIOS legacy emulation justs sends a 0xfe (NACK), and thus the driver assumes that mouse and keyboard don't work[18:39:54] <dr_evil> while in fact, they send data just fine[18:40:14] <stippi> that's exactly why writing drivers for PCs sucks[18:40:27] <stippi> it works on your hardware but not on his[18:41:49] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[18:42:00] *** cps1966 has quit IRC[18:42:46] <MangoFusion> we need to get together and make a new platform[18:42:53] <MangoFusion> which works[18:42:56] <MangoFusion> like, err[18:43:00] <MangoFusion> a Haiku Box![18:43:03] <MangoFusion> :P[18:43:49] <etteyafed> Call it Poetic[18:44:45] <DeadYak> hiya :)[18:44:46] <etteyafed> same CPUs just a standard spec for controllers and whatnot. Not a thousand different chipsets.[18:44:49] * DeadYak pets frankps[18:45:54] *** mats| has joined #haiku[18:47:07] <stippi> DeadYak: got my mail?[18:47:43] <DeadYak> yes :)[18:51:46] *** emitrax has quit IRC[18:52:12] *** etteyafed has quit IRC[18:54:13] *** etteyafed has joined #haiku[18:54:41] <etteyafed> I cant connect to irc.freenode from my laptop[18:54:44] <etteyafed> odd[18:55:31] <MangoFusion> bad dns?[18:55:57] * Thom_Holwerda pets DeadYak[18:56:00] <etteyafed> invalid arg i guess the comp i am on is the dns[18:56:41] <etteyafed> it says unable to connect to irc.freenode.net Invalid argument[18:56:55] *** jevin has quit IRC[18:58:14] *** emitrax has joined #haiku[18:59:29] * DeadYak pets Thom_Holwerda[19:00:51] <MangoFusion> weird[19:01:41] <etteyafed> I know. i just connected from this pc a few days ago and its all the same.[19:02:18] *** mats has quit IRC[19:02:35] *** MYOB has joined #haiku[19:02:38] <MangoFusion> tried an ip for one of the freenode servers?[19:03:07] *** etteyafed_ has joined #haiku[19:04:21] <etteyafed_> for some reason it works if i am root.[19:04:22] *** NeoOokami has joined #haiku[19:04:32] <etteyafed_> odd[19:04:56] <etteyafed>[19:05:01] *** etteyafed has quit IRC[19:05:05] <MangoFusion> are you using the same username?[19:05:18] <dr_evil> stippi any progress?[19:05:58] <etteyafed_> well yes. maybe thats it[19:06:06] *** etteyafed_ has quit IRC[19:06:49] * JonathanThompson lobs a steam engine from his dream at DeadYak[19:07:33] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[19:07:38] * Hodapp lobs the very large pickup truck from his dream at JonathanThompson[19:08:00] <MYOB> I'm worried you dream about machines[19:08:22] *** etteyafed has joined #haiku[19:08:24] <Hodapp> I was at this baseball game (only a local one, not at a big stadium)... and someone threw this big chocolate cake right on the ground in front of the crowd[19:08:35] <Hodapp> and they were like "What the hell? Is that a chocolate cake? I'm distracted..."[19:08:53] <Hodapp> but during that time, a bunch of players had moved a big pickup truck into the outfield and painted it to look exactly like the background[19:09:12] <Hodapp> and it worked really well because no one saw it when all these people came out from behind it[19:09:12] <MYOB> you're scaring me now[19:09:19] <Hodapp> I have weird dreams[19:09:22] <MYOB> you're seriously scaring me[19:09:32] <Hodapp> the chocolate cake was an object of distraction[19:09:51] <MYOB> I think I'm going to back away now :P[19:10:30] <JonathanThompson> MYOB, I build things in my dreams, too :)[19:10:41] <Hodapp> did I not just mention that I have weird dreams, which make no sense when I wake up?[19:11:07] <Hodapp> it's a side effect of the brain untangling all the shit that tangles it up while I'm awake...[19:11:07] <MYOB> JonathanThompson yo're just wierd, though...[19:11:11] *** kokito has joined #haiku[19:11:26] <JonathanThompson> One part of a rather long dream bit involving the steam engine had me assigned the task of running a foot race while carrying it.[19:11:32] <kokito> good morning folks[19:11:33] <JonathanThompson> I woke up before that occurred, though.[19:11:35] <Hodapp> morning[19:11:43] <stippi> dr_evil: just finished building[19:11:46] <JonathanThompson> Greetings, kokito.[19:11:51] <stippi> dr_evil: and I shaved for this event[19:12:03] <dr_evil> ;-)[19:12:06] <JonathanThompson> The other morning I was dreaming about building things with legos, MYOB.,[19:12:39] <Hodapp> http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/online_angelica/killyourself.jpg . . . hmmm[19:12:48] <dr_evil> I had a look at the asus website, my bios version os 0701 and they have already published 13(!) updates[19:12:57] <JonathanThompson> Back in 2001-2002, I had a dream where I was having a conversation with a character about robot end-effector design issues.[19:13:08] <stippi> Controller Mode "IDE" -> "AHCI"[19:13:13] <JonathanThompson> dr_evil, you're clearly obsolete :)[19:13:34] * JonathanThompson hands his computer a cane[19:14:01] <stippi> dr_evil: :-( It just hangs[19:14:02] * Hodapp looks at JonathanThompson[19:14:16] * JonathanThompson looks at Hodapp[19:14:57] * Hodapp looks back at JonathanThompson, like 50 times more intensely[19:15:32] *** Euver has joined #haiku[19:15:34] <kokito> soccer time...[19:15:48] <stippi> I thought "Enable On Screen Debug Output" is supposed to do something?[19:15:57] * JonathanThompson intensifies his intensity intensely to intensify his intent stare back at Hodapp in a hopelessly hapless happenstance of visual penetration and blinds Hodapp with science[19:16:09] <stippi> kokito: Germany is world champion!!! With not a single ball scored against us![19:16:14] * Hodapp uses a mirror and blinds the f**k out of JonathanThompson with his own gaze[19:16:22] <Hodapp> pwned.[19:16:41] <Hodapp> you just got JonathanThompsOWNED[19:16:41] <dr_evil> stippi well, when I try to enable some save mode options it usually imeediately reboots[19:16:55] <stippi> dr_evil: no, I got into the menu fine[19:17:06] <dr_evil> reboots when I try to continue booting[19:17:08] *** JamesU_ has joined #haiku[19:17:12] * JonathanThompson stumbles into Hodapp, feels the bodies to lock on the right one, then pounces on him while he still has a firm grasp, wearing his Human Fly velcro/super glue suit[19:17:41] *** emitrax has quit IRC[19:17:48] <Hodapp> um...[19:18:04] * Hodapp swats JonathanThompson with a flyswatter[19:18:18] <dr_evil> stippi don't you have a serial port?[19:18:19] * JonathanThompson notes flyswatters don't do much good against superglue suits[19:18:27] <stippi> dr_evil: nope[19:18:39] <stippi> dr_evil: both machines don't have one[19:19:18] * JonathanThompson wonders what Intel server motherboards Haiku would currently boot on, with AHCI SATA at its current state[19:21:39] <etteyafed> give me a moment and i will thest the 945GX[19:22:00] <MYOB> stippi pity its world champions in ladies football and not anything important ;)[19:22:52] * JonathanThompson considers MYOB fortunate that there's likely to be few ladies in here[19:23:18] <MYOB> JonathanThompson ladies? on IRC? There might be women but no ladies :P[19:23:55] <JonathanThompson> Which might make them that much more likely to beat you senseless if they caught you :P[19:24:08] *** SDr has quit IRC[19:24:09] <surrounder> lol[19:25:01] <CIA-5> stippi * r22389 /haiku/trunk/build/jam/ (HaikuImage UserBuildConfig.sample):[19:25:01] <CIA-5> * prepare optional package Vision (download at sourceforge has been updated[19:25:01] <CIA-5> with HVIF icon too, thanks DeadYak!)[19:25:01] <CIA-5> * enable optional packages in your UserBuildSetup[19:25:40] * JonathanThompson notes DeadYak is helping make Vision the de facto standard Haiku IRC client[19:25:59] *** emitrax_ has quit IRC[19:27:01] <MYOB> Nokia make me download 25MB of software updates to their updater app so it can tell me theres no updatesfor my ophone[19:27:04] <stippi> JonathanThompson: Isn't it already?[19:27:19] *** etteyafed_ has joined #haiku[19:27:26] *** etteyafed has quit IRC[19:27:30] <JonathanThompson> I admit, the last time I booted Haiku natively, it didn't have a network stack that worked well enough, stippi.[19:27:35] <stippi> dr_evil: Haiku boots if I put the controller in IDE mode, but then syncing KDLs after a timeout[19:27:41] <Thom_Holwerda> MYOB: heh[19:27:44] * JonathanThompson laughs at MYOB's plight[19:27:49] *** etteyafed_ is now known as etteyafed[19:27:51] *** wildur has quit IRC[19:28:35] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[19:31:45] *** fyysik has quit IRC[19:31:51] <stippi> MYOB: can you see my private messages?[19:31:54] <MYOB> yes[19:31:57] <MYOB> I replied I think[19:32:03] <MYOB> I wasn't idented...[19:32:08] <stippi> you need to be registered with...[19:32:09] <stippi> yeah[19:32:14] <MYOB> fixsed[19:32:21] * DeadYak pets the flag that lets you receive messages from unregistered users[19:32:48] * JonathanThompson covers DeadYak's body with the same flag before burial[19:33:27] <JonathanThompson> And of course, if a kernel developer ever dies, the most appropriate funeral is a burial at C[19:33:37] *** MangoFusion has quit IRC[19:34:23] * dr_evil updated the BIOS[19:34:40] <etteyafed> if you are installing haiku on a mounted partition from linux can you use HAIKU_INSTALL_DIR=?[19:35:10] <etteyafed> with ? as /dev/sda2?[19:36:05] <dr_evil> I don't know, I created an image, copied it with dd, and ran makebootable[19:37:31] <dr_evil> after BIOS update, haiku boot stops much earlier with "ide: ide_timeout() bus 0x908eda00"[19:38:03] * dr_evil checks the AHCI setting[19:38:16] <JonathanThompson> Well, at least you know the BIOS update changed behavior :/[19:38:45] *** jevin has joined #haiku[19:39:00] <dr_evil> our IDE stack is really bad[19:39:47] <dr_evil> haiku was booting with ide emulation[19:40:43] <dr_evil> the bios update didn't solve the PS/2 problem, it persists :([19:41:15] <JonathanThompson> Did you make a backup of your previous BIOS before you updated it to this version?[19:45:08] *** JamesU_ is now known as MangoFusion[19:48:55] <dr_evil> ^no, but its available for download. the problem was the non-ahci setting in the bios defaults[19:49:01] <kokito> stippi, in women's soccer, right?[19:49:20] <dr_evil> I changed it now, but still the same problems as before the bios update[19:49:33] <stippi> kokito[19:49:34] <stippi> yeah![19:49:45] <stargater> re[19:49:52] <kokito> stippi, I know: germany beat argentina like 11 - 0 :)[19:50:00] <stippi> :-)[19:50:03] <MrSunshine> dr_evil, you got the driver working? :)))))[19:50:05] <kokito> but we'll take revenge some day :)[19:50:12] <stippi> more than that, not a single ball in their goal![19:50:19] <MYOB> I thought you were colombian not argentinian?[19:50:20] <stippi> for the entire tunier[19:50:40] <kokito> that's a record for the guinness book :P[19:50:51] <DeadYak> MYOB: kokito's from Argentina[19:51:21] <kokito> MYOB, where did you get that? :)[19:51:30] <stippi> kokito: I thought you were from Spain![19:51:48] <DeadYak> stippi: seriously?[19:52:53] <frankps> :-)[19:52:53] <MYOB> kokito I've no idea[19:54:00] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[19:54:11] <kokito> tricks of the mind, MYOB :P[19:58:24] *** Thom_r5 has quit IRC[20:04:16] <etteyafed> I wish the haiku svn had a dual 1GBit connection w/dual quad Xeon CPUs[20:04:37] <etteyafed> maybe i will donate the hw and bandwidth when i get it.[20:04:41] <etteyafed> ;)[20:05:28] <etteyafed> that will be sometime next *never*[20:06:23] <MYOB> it probably does; it just happens to support about 1000 projectas[20:06:41] <etteyafed> well i wish it were a dedicated haiku-os svn[20:06:56] <etteyafed> for the kernel and all 3rd party projs[20:07:17] <etteyafed> well for haiku and 3rd party haiku apps[20:07:52] * etteyafed wonder why he still bothers to wish things...[20:08:14] <JonathanThompson> The power of positively negative thinking wins again, etteyafed :)[20:10:22] <etteyafed> Maybe thats the trick. I will get luck to think I have given up and |BAM| something good will happen. I win! No i dont. :([20:11:45] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[20:12:42] * JonathanThompson /nick JT-Away; is idle: BRB[20:12:50] * JonathanThompson has returned[20:12:57] * JonathanThompson /nick JT-Away; is idle: BRB[20:14:29] <DeadYak> I'm somehow guessing that's not quite what you intended it to do :P[20:18:20] *** jevin has quit IRC[20:21:05] <etteyafed> stupid nvidia driver hangs stupid x with power management on stupid geforce go 7400[20:22:56] *** flyinghippo has joined #haiku[20:22:59] <etteyafed> does it pnly when decoding some vid w/hw decomp[20:25:27] *** alpha-li1n has joined #haiku[20:27:18] <MYOB> X11 hasn't got hardware decompression support for nVidia, etteyafed[20:27:57] *** Karina`` has joined #haiku[20:27:58] <MYOB> overlay yes[20:28:44] <etteyafed> well the closed driver tries and sometimes fails locking up with it[20:28:55] *** jevin has joined #haiku[20:30:14] <etteyafed> really i am not *exactly* sure what it is, but it IS the nvidia driver and the only thing that locks is the display and kbd input, everything else runs as normal. even the mouse[20:31:03] <etteyafed> it *never* happens with the nv driver[20:32:32] <etteyafed> and it only does it if i am playing a video[20:33:16] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[20:33:30] <etteyafed> and it only does it on the mobile cards... so i assume it has something to do with power man/hw acc/nvidia driver[20:35:10] *** brobostigon has left #haiku[20:35:57] <MYOB> overlay[20:36:12] <MYOB> disable hardware overlay in your video player[20:37:28] <etteyafed> that might work with totem, but not with flash i don't think[20:39:21] *** etteyafed is now known as away[20:39:30] *** away is now known as etteyafed_away[20:39:49] *** alpha-lion has quit IRC[20:40:00] *** frankps has quit IRC[20:40:09] *** alpha-li1n is now known as alpha-lion[20:51:16] *** MauriceK has quit IRC[20:54:24] *** MauriceK has joined #haiku[20:58:38] *** rgb1 has joined #haiku[21:01:45] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[21:18:59] *** MYOB has quit IRC[21:19:02] *** flyinghippo has quit IRC[21:22:10] *** rhu has quit IRC[21:36:24] *** droops has joined #haiku[21:46:39] *** rhu has joined #haiku[21:48:07] *** rgb1 has quit IRC[21:51:26] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[21:53:35] *** mats| has quit IRC[21:53:36] *** Thom_r5 has joined #haiku[22:04:14] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[22:16:37] *** AlexForster has joined #haiku[22:29:59] *** frankps has joined #haiku[22:30:21] *** stippi has quit IRC[22:40:02] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:45:10] *** flyinghippo has joined #haiku[22:49:45] *** Begasus_bbl is now known as Begasus[22:50:04] <Begasus> evening peeps[22:51:26] *** Euver has quit IRC[22:53:10] *** wildur has joined #Haiku[22:53:24] *** BePower has quit IRC[22:55:31] *** stargater has quit IRC[22:57:11] <Thom_r5> DaaT is here[22:57:14] * Thom_r5 cheers[22:58:44] <judgen> gday[23:01:47] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[23:06:24] *** Deffy_Lappy has quit IRC[23:16:57] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[23:17:27] <Begasus> g'night peeps[23:17:56] *** Begasus has quit IRC[23:20:57] *** kennyjb402 has joined #haiku[23:23:11] *** frankps has quit IRC[23:26:47] <judgen> anyone have a green devil invite?[23:27:09] *** emitrax_ has quit IRC[23:27:26] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[23:31:45] *** flyinghippo has quit IRC[23:32:09] *** kennyjb402 has quit IRC[23:33:20] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[23:45:39] *** emitrax_ has quit IRC[23:46:10] *** flyinghippo has joined #haiku[23:46:17] *** emitrax_ has joined #haiku[23:52:58] *** MauriceK has left #haiku[23:56:21] *** jevin has quit IRC[23:57:31] *** wildur has quit IRC