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[00:45:19] <CIA-6> phoudoin * r13843 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/pulse/Jamfile: Cleanup: removing explicit strlcpy.c build.
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[01:11:19] <@mmu_man> cam_sim_priv is *private* as its name suggests...
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[01:12:16] <@mmu_man> YESSSS
[01:12:27] <@mmu_man> much better this way
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[01:18:01] <CIA-6> phoudoin * r13844 /haiku/trunk/Jamfile: Added an OpenGLKit pseudo-target.
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[01:26:11] <CIA-6> phoudoin * r13845 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/messaging/KMessage.cpp: USER == ! _KERNEL_MODE, right (!?).
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[01:35:31] <CIA-6> stippi * r13846 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/TermView.cpp: fixed typo
[01:39:29] <CIA-6> stippi * r13847 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/Jamfile: hacking session with Ingo part 1: add syslog() to libopenbeos.so to remove the last dependency on libbe.so
[01:41:26] <tic> hey BryanV
[01:48:56] <CIA-6> stippi * r13848 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[01:48:56] <CIA-6> hacking session with Ingo part2: in the R5 test environment, the app_server
[01:48:56] <CIA-6> links no longer against libbe.so, the classes which need it, ViewHWInterface +
[01:48:56] <CIA-6> friends, are extracted into their own library, but we need a bridge library as
[01:48:56] <CIA-6> well for HWInterface + friends. The AppServer is consequently no BApplication in
[01:48:56] <CIA-6> the test environment anymore, the BApplication that is needed to display the
[01:48:58] <CIA-6> frame buffer window is handled in ViewHWInterface. No functional change, except
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[02:07:22] <@stippi> good night
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[02:34:49] <agentmumu> why not rename libopenbeos.so to haiku.so?
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[10:15:05] <JBurton> hey [Beta]
[10:15:10] <[Beta]> hey yo
[10:15:10] <@JBurton> did you have any luck with SDL ?
[10:15:50] <[Beta]> didnt get time, had to travel up to birmingham last night :/
[10:16:04] <[Beta]> good waste of an evening i'll tell you.
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[10:17:18] <[Beta]> anything else happening?
[10:18:31] <anarchos> is a query search window (or whatever it's called...been a LONG time since i've used beos) a part of opentracker or is that a seperate app?
[10:25:37] <Proctop> It is part of the tracker.
[10:26:06] <Proctop> It could be part of libtracker though. I'm not sure about that.
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[10:31:57] <johnny_b> hi
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[10:53:58] <@JBurton> anyone has the binaries of the haiku media kit (for R5) ?
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[11:00:00] <@Korli> JBurton a filepanel is needed, you can add screensavers with the "Add..." button
[11:01:33] <@JBurton> ahhh right
[11:01:44] <@JBurton> btw I noticed many "kill_thread"
[11:01:51] <@JBurton> should be wait_for_thread() instead
[11:02:21] <anarchos> is the haiku media kit better than the stock R5 kit?
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[11:03:38] <@Korli> JBurton no
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[11:04:12] <@Korli> orli> or yeah but not with current screensaver thread
[11:04:53] <@JBurton> anarchos yeah
[11:05:34] <@Korli> btw Nebula screensaver from axeld has a settings panel too large
[11:05:41] <@JBurton> oh
[11:05:43] <@Korli> tst tst
[11:05:45] <@JBurton> :=))
[11:05:51] <@Korli> bad font sensitivity
[11:05:54] <@Korli> ahha
[11:05:57] <@JBurton> ahahahahaahahaha
[11:06:13] <@Korli> we could kiddy him
[11:06:40] <@Korli> we won't :)
[11:08:23] <@JBurton> he could kid us for 10000 things :P
[11:08:25] <CIA-6> korli * r13850 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/screensaver/ (3 files): cleanup
[11:09:00] <@Korli> JBurton right :p
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[11:43:12] <agentmumu> huhu korli
[11:43:15] <agentmumu> huhu jburton
[11:43:53] <@JBurton> hey agentmumu
[11:44:23] <@JBurton> agentmumu someone just asked me if you put up new images
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[11:45:49] <agentmumu> JBurton: i'm currently in graz so i can't do any earlier than after the weekend
[11:45:59] <@JBurton> ah okay
[11:46:02] <@JBurton> thanks
[11:46:53] <agentmumu> JBurton: any great improvements lately?
[11:48:01] <@JBurton> no
[11:49:04] <[Beta]> agentmumu: whats the date on your most recent image ?
[11:49:35] <agentmumu> [Beta]: let me check
[11:49:55] <[Beta]> ok
[11:50:09] <agentmumu> 2005-07-17
[11:50:44] <[Beta]> hmm. Philippe added an AMD logo to pulse on the 19th. all I can think of :]
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[11:51:47] <@Korli> hey agentmumu
[11:52:03] <agentmumu> Korli :)
[11:52:16] <JBurton> some bugs fixed by Korli, agentmumu & [Beta]
[11:52:27] <@Korli> me ?
[11:52:30] <@JBurton> yeah
[11:52:36] <@JBurton> the HasGlyphs thing
[11:52:53] <@Korli> ah yeah
[11:52:54] <[Beta]> and me?
[11:52:59] <[Beta]> I've done nothing.
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[11:53:30] <@JBurton> I meant,
[11:53:41] <JBurton> [Beta] & agentmumu: some bugs fixed by Korli
[11:53:46] <@JBurton> better now ? :P
[11:53:51] <[Beta]> oic :))
[11:54:03] <@JBurton> in the keymap app
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[11:54:48] <[Beta]> wow. StyledEdit looking good..
[11:55:04] <@JBurton> yes
[11:55:09] <@JBurton> and they didn't even use colors
[11:55:28] <[Beta]> JBurton: is that screenie before the other fix to string drawing in lists (someone tweaked a ViewColor? or something)
[11:55:59] <@JBurton> hmmm I can't remember
[11:56:02] <@JBurton> I see the bug, though
[11:56:45] <[Beta]> yeah, annoying aliasing.
[11:57:20] <[Beta]> oh, that was only for selection backgrounds.
[11:57:25] <miqlas> hello4 Please give me an screenshot from StyleEdit! :)
[11:58:32] <anarchos> is that stylededit from r5 or a new haiku stylededit?
[11:59:46] <[Beta]> its all haiku baby.
[11:59:55] <anarchos> cool :)
[12:00:38] <anarchos> is that also the stock deskbar/tracker compiled for haiku?
[12:01:13] <agentmumu> only deskbar is running in the screenshot
[12:01:13] <[Beta]> That'd be OpenTracker, from haiku's svn.
[12:01:33] <anarchos> nice, i wasn't aware that that worked already
[12:01:42] <Lt_Henry> uhmmm
[12:01:46] <anarchos> you guys are moving along at quite a clip these days, good work..
[12:01:59] <Lt_Henry> where can I find the wallpaper of that screenshot?
[12:02:09] <Lt_Henry> that blue haiku background
[12:02:25] <@Korli> (lunch)
[12:02:37] <[Beta]> that logo is embedded in the app_server, iirc
[12:02:46] <Lt_Henry> :o
[12:03:19] <anarchos> i should really set up a machine to test this all out
[12:03:28] <Lt_Henry> it is so nice ... :D~~
[12:03:39] <anarchos> too bad i dont have a fast internet connection, so downloading r5 is gonna be trouble
[12:04:49] * [Beta] pokes petterhj
[12:05:56] <Lt_Henry> whats that?
[12:06:29] <Lt_Henry> I just want that background for my desktop
[12:06:37] <[Beta]> its got the full logo, so you could just flood fill an area, and have a wallpaper.
[12:06:53] <Lt_Henry> mmm right
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[12:42:18] <JBurton> [Beta] ?
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[12:59:39] <[Beta]> JBurton: just noticed, how come two registrars are running in that screenshot? :o
[13:00:15] <@JBurton> UH ? Where ? :P
[13:00:26] <@JBurton> the one you linked ?
[13:00:35] <[Beta]> no, the one you did!
[13:00:38] <@JBurton> oh :)
[13:00:41] <@JBurton> didn't notice
[13:00:44] <@JBurton> but yeah you're right :P
[13:00:54] <[Beta]> I have eyes, duh :p
[13:01:38] <slaad> Lookin' pretty snazzy.
[13:02:08] <@JBurton> eheh
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[13:19:00] <Spino> isd there an plaze i can see pictures of haiku?
[13:21:05] <@JBurton> sure
[13:21:56] <kma> bug nordic has a really nice gallery
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[13:22:08] <kma> from the start and the advancement
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[13:29:01] <Spino> hehe nice going :P
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[13:31:30] <@JBurton> bye all
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[13:35:15] <[Beta]> right.
[13:35:46] <[Beta]> under Haiku; scummvm runs, draws the load game menu, but hung the app_server on print screen.
[13:36:24] <[Beta]> that was with borrowing libSDL, libGL (& co), and libFLAC/libogg all from r5
[13:37:09] <kma> [Beta]: nice!
[13:37:23] <kma> nice to see that real stuff starts working
[13:38:35] <[Beta]> actually, it crashes on the first mouse movement after running it (whether its in the window, or not)
[13:38:58] <[Beta]> gimme a sec, i'll upload a photo
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[13:40:55] <[Beta]> I might want to rebuild haiku actually, i'm running a really old build. I'll test again later with that.
[13:41:32] <kma> ok
[13:44:44] <[Beta]> crappy old phone :)
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[13:46:13] <kma> :)
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[13:46:37] <kma> btw, anyone working on audio?
[13:46:46] <[Beta]> cant wait to play Sam & Max; the only game you need :)
[13:46:55] <kma> and OpenTTD :)
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[14:05:30] <CIA-6> korli * r13851 /haiku/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): module states are now saved correctly
[14:06:03] <DaneScott> tic
[14:06:09] <tic> hello DaneScott, just sent you an e-mail.
[14:06:13] <DaneScott> ah ok
[14:08:53] <SiCuTDeUx> Hi all!
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[14:46:05] <SiCuTDeUx> Nasa TV, rocks!!!
[14:47:49] <[Beta]> :)
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[14:51:40] <stargater> re
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[15:08:31] <CIA-6> axeld * r13852 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/TermApp.cpp: Our Terminal is already a bit older than 2005...
[15:12:55] <CIA-6> axeld * r13853 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/ (5 files): (log message trimmed)
[15:12:55] <CIA-6> Removed all global preferences path constants.
[15:12:55] <CIA-6> PrefHandler now exports a static method GetDefaultPath() which gets the
[15:12:55] <CIA-6> path to the default settings file (using find_directory(), of course).
[15:12:55] <CIA-6> Disabled locale support; should be easy to reenable when needed again, though.
[15:12:55] <CIA-6> Made all the PrefHandler getters a lot more robust (could easily crash when asking
[15:12:57] <CIA-6> for an unknown item).
[15:15:47] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13854 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/messaging/KMessage.cpp: Aesthetical change.
[15:16:44] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13855 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/Jamfile: KMessage doesn't require the USER macro anymore.
[15:17:46] <CIA-6> axeld * r13856 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/PrefHandler.cpp:
[15:17:46] <CIA-6> Since we now only have a single file to save, we no longer create a sub-directory
[15:17:46] <CIA-6> "HaikuTerminal" in the user settings directory, but just a file called either
[15:17:46] <CIA-6> "Terminal" (for the Haiku build) or "HaikuTerminal" (for the R5 build).
[15:17:46] <CIA-6> Last commit also made sure the settings target path existed - this is now no
[15:17:47] <CIA-6> longer necessary, and thus, disabled.
[15:18:22] <Lt_Henry> svn commit festival 2005
[15:18:25] <Lt_Henry> :D
[15:20:31] <Dr3w> does CIA stand for Commit In Action ?
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[21:20:14] <stargater> hi all
[21:20:53] <tic> hi stargater
[21:21:02] <stargater> hi tic
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[22:56:19] <Dr_Evil> re
[22:57:49] <@mmu_man> plop
[22:58:26] <Dr_Evil> hello mmu_man, how are you?
[23:03:23] <@mmu_man> fine
[23:04:51] <Dr_Evil> great, do you also have this moist and warm weather with thunder?
[23:08:21] <@mmu_man> yep
[23:08:39] <@mmu_man> some rain 2 hours ago
[23:08:43] <@mmu_man> lowered the temp a bit :)
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[23:09:13] <Dr_Evil> mmu_man will you be at next begeistert?
[23:09:28] <Dr_Evil> evening stippi
[23:09:32] <@mmu_man> sure
[23:09:33] <stippi> hey
[23:09:36] <@mmu_man> when is it scheduled ?
[23:09:52] <stippi> I tried registering, but it wasn't on yet.
[23:10:06] <Dr_Evil> 8-9.10.2005
[23:10:20] <Dr_Evil> in Duisburg, thats about 25 km from the old location
[23:10:37] <Dr_Evil> it's not online yet
[23:13:52] <fyysik> 25 km - in which direction?
[23:16:39] <Dr_Evil> direction towards Duisburg
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[23:18:32] <agentmumu> maybe i'll be there too
[23:18:48] <tic> I hope I'll be able to get there.
[23:26:25] <fyysik> is Cologne-Bonn far from that?
[23:26:55] <fyysik> only cheap flights from Tallinn or helsinki to Germany are to Berlin or Cologne
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[23:27:39] <tic> it's quite close, 20 minutes by train.
[23:27:43] <tic> (or 30?)
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[23:27:56] <agentmumu> i'll go by foot
[23:27:59] <agentmumu> if I start today
[23:28:12] <agentmumu> i might make it to begeistert
[23:28:14] <agentmumu> hehe
[23:28:59] <tic> he
[23:29:01] <tic> heh.
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[23:30:55] <SiCuTDeUx> hey agentmumu
[23:31:04] <agentmumu> huhu SiCuTDeUx :)
[23:31:16] <SiCuTDeUx> still watching nasa tv
[23:31:32] <agentmumu> do you get it over cable or sat?
[23:31:35] <agentmumu> or over the web?
[23:31:44] <SiCuTDeUx> over the net
[23:34:56] <Dr_Evil> hm thats slightly boring
[23:35:32] <agentmumu> i'm going to write nasa a mail
[23:35:33] <agentmumu> i
[23:36:28] <agentmumu> i don't understand why they simply but a fine fibernet around the fuel tank, so that if a pieace of breaks of, it
[23:36:34] <agentmumu> 's held in place
[23:36:39] <agentmumu> and can't damage the shuttle
[23:36:45] <Dr_Evil> the are looking fore tile demage?
[23:37:56] <agentmumu> i read today that something broke of and a researcher from esa says it might has damaged the heat-shield near the tires
[23:38:05] <agentmumu> so landing could result in a crash
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[23:41:11] <SiCuTDeUx> agentmumu, they are cheking every centimeter of the ship!
[23:41:53] <SiCuTDeUx> iCuTDeUx> i saw on cnn that the pice of junk didint touch anything on the transb.
[23:42:07] <agentmumu> SiCuTDeUx: all I've heard from nasa is, that they don't think it's a real damage
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[23:42:42] <agentmumu> SiCuTDeUx: hm, i read it in very good local newspaper
[23:43:02] <Dr_Evil> SiCuTDeUx is there no audio right now?
[23:43:11] <agentmumu> but still, i don't understand why a simple net wouldn't prevent those problems
[23:43:44] <agentmumu> Dr_Evil: kann man eh net zu einem netz, sagen, ähnlich einem fischernetz? :)
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[23:44:25] <SiCuTDeUx_> re!
[23:45:16] <SiCuTDeUx_> WTF... t appears Discovery has not sustained any damage that would prevent a safe return to Earth on Aug. 7. Early indications are that Discovery has less damage than Shuttles on previous flights.
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[23:46:07] <tic> Hope I don't have to study for exams during the BeGeistert weekend....
[23:46:13] <Dr_Evil> yeah, less damage, thats because they today made the examination before reentry, while it was done after reentry on all the others
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[23:46:47] <@mmu_man> that is before they burn themselves out in the return
[23:46:50] <@mmu_man> plop phoudoin
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[23:46:58] <Methe> plop phoudoin
[23:47:03] *** mmu_man sets mode: +o stippi
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[23:47:15] <SiCuTDeUx_> yeah!
[23:47:21] <@phoudoin> plop mmu_man & Methe
[23:47:26] <Methe> bonuit :D
[23:47:28] <@phoudoin> Hi all.
[23:47:30] <tic> mmu_man, read Chris' mini-review of R1?
[23:47:33] <@phoudoin> what's uo?
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[23:47:53] <NathanW> hi phoudoin
[23:48:11] <@phoudoin> hi Nathan
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[23:48:55] <@mmu_man> nope
[23:49:20] <NathanW> mmu_man: he says YT still doesn't have the source :P
[23:50:13] <@mmu_man> power to him
[23:51:53] <@phoudoin> From OSNews comment: "Are Bernd's panties yellow?". Now that's a question that deserve an answer ;-)
[23:52:12] <tic> of course yT doesn't have the sauce!
[23:52:40] <agentmumu> phoudoin: hehe
[23:53:45] <@phoudoin> Next best thing in OS area: skinnable OS software company's CEO's panties.
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[23:54:49] <agentmumu> i guess steve jobs is wearing black
[23:54:58] <agentmumu> or maybe no underwear at all, hehe
[23:55:23] <@phoudoin> A Tiger string maybe...
[23:55:30] <agentmumu> hahahaha
[23:55:49] <agentmumu> i should have come up with that ;)