July 27, 2005 
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July 27, 2005 [00:00:03] <stargater> agentmumu hi[00:00:14] *** thies has quit IRC[00:01:56] <agentmumu> huhu stargater[00:01:59] *** stippi has quit IRC[00:02:31] <stargater> jo hi, agentmumu AVGP has a question, has you 5 min ?[00:03:04] <agentmumu> stargater: yes[00:03:07] <agentmumu> avgp?[00:03:23] <AVGP> hey...do you know, how to get the current directory?[00:04:00] <AVGP> I didn't find any function...I want to resolve the directory, from where the application runs...it can't be impossible!! Thx for your help![00:04:28] <agentmumu> AVGP: ich versteh nicht was du meinst[00:04:36] <agentmumu> du willst den svn tree auschecken?[00:04:43] <AVGP> also doch deutsch[00:05:02] <agentmumu> ja ich bin aus österreich :)[00:05:03] <AVGP> also...ich führe als Beispiel "/boot/home/Programme/test" aus...[00:05:33] <AVGP> nun möchte ich eine Funktion mit der ich das aktuelle Verzeichnis herausbekomme (hier: "/boot/home/Programme/")[00:05:50] <AVGP> ja, weil Stargater teilweise englisch mit dir sprach...[00:05:54] <AVGP> i was confused[00:05:56] <AVGP> *gg*[00:07:13] <agentmumu> isn't there something like getenv[00:07:32] <agentmumu> so you can get the PWD environment variable[00:08:42] *** dabeej has quit IRC[00:09:05] <agentmumu> maybe also getcwd() Get Path Name of Current Working Directory[00:09:49] <AVGP> bleiben wir doch bei deutsch *lol!*[00:10:18] <AVGP> getcwd des scheint gut zu sein[00:10:29] <AVGP> ich werds mir mal anschaun *gg*[00:11:10] <AVGP> thx a lot![00:12:12] <agentmumu> bitte :)[00:12:56] <agentmumu> falls es geht ;)[00:13:08] <AVGP> ja ich werds schon hinbiegen...:)[00:13:14] *** thies has joined #haiku[00:13:23] <AVGP> bin grad a) zu faul b) zu müde :D[00:18:53] <AVGP> cYa@all[00:19:14] *** AVGP has quit IRC[00:24:34] *** flag_ has joined #haiku[00:35:01] *** MikeW has quit IRC[00:41:01] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[00:41:35] *** flag__ has quit IRC[00:43:05] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[00:48:28] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[00:49:19] <stargater> n8[00:49:25] *** stargater has quit IRC[01:08:11] *** Stoerte has quit IRC[01:09:10] *** bogomipz has quit IRC[01:13:41] *** Zenton has quit IRC[01:20:32] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[01:38:30] *** Lt_Henry has quit IRC[01:57:14] *** DCUno has joined #haiku[02:15:35] *** [Beta] has quit IRC[12:35:32] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku[12:35:34] <Methe> hi tic[12:35:35] <[Beta]> 'ello[12:35:42] <Sil2100> Hi[12:35:42] <tic> what's up guys?[12:35:53] <Sil2100> Nothing much[12:36:00] <[Beta]> ditto.[12:36:08] <[Beta]> any news today ?[12:36:24] <Sil2100> I'm still trying to run Haiku on bochs[12:36:24] <tic> dunno[12:38:25] *** miqlas has quit IRC[12:58:18] *** bogomipz has joined #haiku[12:59:42] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[13:03:55] *** JBurton has quit IRC[13:08:39] *** bs0 has quit IRC[13:11:17] *** tqh has quit IRC[13:13:25] *** Methe has quit IRC[13:15:52] *** sys2_ has quit IRC[13:19:24] *** connex has joined #haiku[13:22:41] *** petterhj has quit IRC[13:36:33] *** connex is now known as petterhj[13:42:44] *** TheGreatDane has quit IRC[13:42:50] *** DaneScott has joined #haiku[13:48:24] *** nielx has joined #haiku[13:57:31] <tic> DaneScott, new build for you[13:57:34] <tic> hey nielx, how's the USB stuff coming along?[13:58:18] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[13:58:21] <nielx> tic, I'm toying with it a little now[13:58:28] <nielx> But I'm stuck[13:58:32] <tic> okay, on what?[13:59:13] <nielx> Well, I can get the host controller started, but it shuts down almost immediately[13:59:44] <tic> ouch.[13:59:48] <tic> had a look at linux source?[14:00:16] <nielx> yes, and the *bsd source[14:00:27] <nielx> but the problem is that I just can't pin down the exact issue[14:00:47] <tic> ahh :|[14:01:15] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[14:01:32] <nielx> It are things like this that keep me from keeping on working on it[14:01:37] <nielx> it's so frustrating[14:01:56] <nielx> every now and then I have an enlightened moment and I get a bit further[14:02:23] <tic> yup[14:02:24] <@Korli> nielx did you try the driver on haiku ?[14:02:41] <nielx> Korli: Nope, not yet[14:02:58] <@Korli> I'm wondering if it can make things easier[14:03:02] <nielx> I have haiku on my machine in Amsterdam, but that one has an OHCI host controller[14:03:16] <nielx> and I'm currently puting all my energy on the UHCI controller[14:07:03] <nielx> The point is that I _want_ to show something to you guys, but with these roadblocks it isn't going to happen[14:08:18] <@Korli> nielx understood[14:08:41] <kma> hmm.. soon time for WalterCon.. who is going?[14:09:10] <crash_> is there any haiku.isos?[14:09:58] <kma> no[14:10:00] <bogomipz> no, but there are disk images[14:10:23] <tic> people tend to confuse ISO and "disk image"[14:10:29] <tic> ISO == an ISO9660 filesystem disk image.[14:10:48] <tic> Haiku uses BFS, and as such there cannot be an "ISO" of Haiku; only a BFS dump[14:10:48] <crash_> oki where can i fint disk image for qemu,bochs?[14:11:20] <kma> a> a golden coin to the first that make an bootable live cd with haiku[14:11:51] <tic> that's not really that difficult, you know.[14:12:37] <kma> so.... do it :)[14:17:08] *** Methe has joined #haiku[14:29:36] *** Sil2100 has quit IRC[14:39:32] *** Methe has quit IRC[14:41:30] *** Methe has joined #haiku[14:41:36] <Methe> hmm[14:41:38] <Methe> wtf[14:41:45] <Methe> I have a "pipe" icon on my desktop[14:41:47] <Methe> :xx[14:48:25] <nielx> Cherish it[14:48:45] <Methe> loooooool[14:51:21] *** Sil2100 has joined #haiku[14:57:30] <nielx> I'm a bit confused, is there any rule on when I should check out the h0 or the h1 part in the PCI configuration struct?[14:58:53] *** sys2 has joined #haiku[14:59:10] *** Stomper has quit IRC[15:04:55] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[15:06:50] *** Beo has joined #haiku[15:11:56] *** Beo has quit IRC[15:15:05] * SiCuTDeUx is back (gone 10:05:38)[15:19:19] *** tqh has joined #haiku[15:19:20] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[15:22:17] <[Beta]> Methe: i've got `npipe` too :)[15:25:24] <@Korli> nielx it depends on the device[15:25:53] <@Korli> I think I only used h0 before[15:40:35] <Methe> [Beta]: :))[15:43:44] <slaad> Has anyone done negotiated drag 'n' drop with ShowImage?[15:45:18] * SiCuTDeUx is away: No estoy! deja tu mensaje despues del beep!...... BEEEEP!!![15:47:28] *** AVGP has joined #haiku[15:47:54] *** DaneScott has quit IRC[15:49:07] *** sys2 has quit IRC[15:52:13] *** DaneScott has joined #haiku[15:52:17] <DaneScott> tic[15:52:24] <tic> hey[15:53:08] <nielx> is 16 a valid IRQ?[15:55:57] *** Mariux3 has quit IRC[15:57:28] *** _olaf has quit IRC[16:01:45] *** sys2 has joined #haiku[16:02:00] *** AVGP has quit IRC[16:04:12] *** Methe has quit IRC[16:06:45] <@Korli> nielx I would say no[16:06:56] <nielx> okay, I'll try h1[16:08:04] <@Korli> maybe you should check interrupt_line and interrupt_pin[16:08:09] <@Korli> of h0[16:08:17] <slaad> Is there source for ShowImage?[16:08:22] <nielx> I'm getting so tired of having to clean peoples computers from spyware[16:08:47] *** AVGP has joined #haiku[16:09:15] <tic> that's so fun![16:09:23] <AVGP> Hello[16:09:55] <AVGP> I know I asked it yesterday, but I already forgot the answer...XD ... does anybody know how to get the current directory[16:10:28] <AVGP> (for example you're running "/boot/apps/...", now I need a function, which returns "boot/apps/"[16:10:31] <AVGP> ??![16:10:55] <evdubs> pwd[16:11:32] <slaad> In C++? BPath path(argv[0]); path.GetParent(&path);[16:11:53] <@Korli> evdubs pwd returns the working directory[16:11:55] <AVGP> alright...sounds good...[16:12:18] <@Korli> with BeOS you should use the AppInfo class[16:12:20] <AVGP> thx[16:12:24] <evdubs> i thought he was talking about shell stuff :x[16:12:30] <AVGP> ...this one is from Path.h[16:12:44] <slaad> Yeah, BAppInfo would work too.[16:13:02] <AVGP> Sorry evdubs...i forgot that this is not a developer channel XD[16:13:12] <AVGP> BAppInfo...right, I read about that...[16:13:20] <@Korli> BApplication::GetAppInfo[16:13:24] <AVGP> but I don't get how to resolve the current directory[16:13:50] <@Korli> the current directory isn't the path of the running executable[16:14:14] <AVGP> right...you know what i mean[16:14:30] <nielx> There's something with getcwd[16:14:34] <nielx> a POSIX thing[16:14:51] <nielx> I've used it, but I don't know where, and I remember there was an additional step needed to actually get a string[16:15:02] <AVGP> RIGHT...that's what I recently got in my mind...[16:15:10] <AVGP> 'til yesterday XD[16:15:33] *** slaad has quit IRC[16:16:17] <AVGP> thx@all[16:29:40] *** TuneTracker has joined #haiku[16:35:16] *** __nitro__ has joined #haiku[16:42:45] *** AVGP has quit IRC[16:42:58] *** bogomipz has quit IRC[16:46:48] *** DaneScott has quit IRC[16:50:37] *** motoyama has joined #haiku[16:59:10] *** sys2 has quit IRC[17:04:23] *** Sil2100 has quit IRC[17:09:07] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[17:19:20] *** tqh has quit IRC[17:20:13] *** stargater has joined #haiku[17:20:20] <stargater> hi all[17:23:14] *** vision has joined #haiku[17:24:44] <vision> whats the svn url, username and pass?[17:24:58] *** vision is now known as Mariux[17:25:01] <Mariux> for anonymous[17:26:40] <[Beta]> svn checkout svn://svn.berlios.de/haiku/trunk[17:26:43] <[Beta]> ?[17:27:28] <Mariux> thanks[17:28:05] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku[17:29:45] <Mariux> svn: URL 'svn://svn.berlios.de/haiku/trunk' doesn't exist[17:29:56] <@Korli> nielx any improvements ?[17:30:03] <stargater> hi Dr_Evil[17:30:22] <@Korli> svn://svn.berlios.de/haiku/haiku/trunk[17:30:30] <nielx> Korli: I know it's definately not h1, because that one has interupt_line 0[17:30:58] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[17:30:58] <[Beta]> ah, berlios needs to change their svn page, then.[17:31:13] <@Korli> did you check in devices panel for some PCI info ?[17:32:46] <Mariux> thanks that worked Korli[17:33:34] <@Korli> seems berlios sets up a new web interface : http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/haiku[17:33:45] <nielx> Yep, it doesn't show any IRQ there[17:34:13] <@Korli> and you have usb on BeOS ?[17:34:17] <nielx> That new web interface is terribly slow (it reminds of sourceforge)[17:34:39] <nielx> anyway, bbl, I have to return the computer I fixed[17:37:41] *** quittt has joined #haiku[17:40:05] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has joined #haiku[17:45:05] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has quit IRC[17:45:09] *** SiCuTDeUx__ has joined #haiku[17:47:29] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[17:49:05] *** __nitro__ has quit IRC[17:52:16] *** stargater has quit IRC[18:02:13] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[18:02:33] <nielx> Re[18:02:42] *** valexey has joined #haiku[18:05:45] *** Koki has joined #haiku[18:06:32] <nielx> ok, the IRQ 16 is right[18:06:36] <nielx> it's the same in windows[18:07:04] <@Korli> good to know[18:08:24] <@Korli> actually I got 16,16, 18, 19 as USB IRQs here :)[18:08:27] *** valexey has quit IRC[18:08:55] *** valexey has joined #haiku[18:11:50] *** ChrisK077 has joined #haiku[18:17:04] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[18:19:42] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[18:20:27] *** BNickName has joined #haiku[18:20:57] *** quittt has quit IRC[18:23:19] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[18:24:45] <@Korli> bye[18:24:47] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[18:24:53] *** Korli has quit IRC[18:25:29] <CIA-6> phoudoin * r13838 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/tracker/FSUtils.cpp: More s/BeOS/Haiku/g if __HAIKU__...[18:29:22] *** Racer__X has joined #haiku[18:32:55] *** scanty has joined #haiku[18:52:14] *** Mariux has quit IRC[18:58:16] *** Master199 has quit IRC[19:01:19] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[19:11:34] *** sys2 has joined #haiku[19:12:12] *** Master199 has quit IRC[19:15:23] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[19:20:59] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[19:23:49] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[19:30:37] *** Konrad77 has joined #haiku[19:35:27] *** Belial- has joined #haiku[19:44:13] *** Master199 has quit IRC[19:48:33] *** Korli has joined #haiku[19:48:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[19:49:57] *** ChrisK077 has quit IRC[19:57:52] *** BNickName has quit IRC[19:58:53] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[19:58:56] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku[20:00:12] *** Begasus has quit IRC[20:01:11] *** nielx has quit IRC[20:01:43] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[20:05:08] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[20:12:50] <tic> Ugh, desperately need to get started with the Pythonic BASIC, looking at this. *shiver* http://www.iltuosistema.it/galleria/details.php?&nomefile=begeistert14_2005/ColorDemo-src.jpg[20:14:07] *** valexey has quit IRC[20:18:35] *** Beo has joined #haiku[20:19:13] *** Korli has quit IRC[20:19:47] *** stargater has joined #haiku[20:19:48] <stargater> re[20:22:41] *** Koki has quit IRC[20:23:17] *** Methe has joined #haiku[20:24:43] *** Koki has joined #haiku[20:27:09] *** eNGIMa_ has joined #haiku[20:28:18] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13839 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/general.c: added PLL reset, hopefully this makes the driver independant of vesa on more systems. Bumped version to 0.08.[20:29:04] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13840 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/UPDATE.html: updated docs[20:29:41] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13841 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/graphics/via/macros.h: added PLL reset register define.[20:33:56] *** Konrad77 has quit IRC[20:34:40] *** Nies has joined #haiku[20:37:29] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[20:38:04] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[20:40:49] *** Koki has quit IRC[20:40:51] *** eNGIMa has quit IRC[20:42:54] *** SiCuTDeUx__ is now known as SiCuTDeUx[20:43:21] <Methe> what's a "tofu" ?[20:43:23] * SiCuTDeUx is back (gone 02:58:01)[20:43:29] <Methe> like in "spam and tofu"[20:43:54] <stargater> i like KAKAU[20:44:19] <Methe> ...[20:44:27] <Methe> =)[20:48:01] <[Beta]> tofu can be used as a replacement for meat, made from soy milk[20:48:12] <[Beta]> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tofu[20:48:46] <Methe> well[20:48:53] <Methe> I heard it in the context "spam and tofu"[20:48:58] <Methe> spam as in mail spam[20:49:01] *** TLF has joined #haiku[20:49:09] <Methe> so what does tofu has to do with mails ?[20:49:10] <Methe> =)[20:49:15] <[Beta]> oic. hmm, havent a clue in that context.[20:49:31] <[Beta]> vegetarian viagra?[20:49:33] <Methe> okie thx[20:52:41] <agentmumu> Methe: i think its full text quote[20:52:52] <Methe> 0o[20:52:54] <Methe> o0[20:52:57] <Methe> 0o[20:52:58] <Methe> o0[20:53:06] <Methe> crazy stuff[20:53:30] <agentmumu> Text Oben, Full-quote Unten". Usenet slang, German for "text above, > full-quote[20:53:31] <agentmumu> below[20:53:51] <agentmumu> Methe: something you shouldn't do :)[20:53:56] <SiCuTDeUx> hi agentmumu, Methe[20:54:07] <agentmumu> huhu SiCuTDeUx[20:54:46] <SiCuTDeUx> hi Begasus[20:57:38] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[21:04:34] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[21:05:18] *** TLF has quit IRC[21:06:10] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[21:14:08] *** stippi has joined #haiku[21:14:13] *** zooey has joined #haiku[21:14:37] <Methe> hey stippi hello[21:14:41] <Methe> zooey my dear ![21:14:46] * Methe smacks zooey![21:14:53] <stippi> hi[21:15:07] <tic> Oliver, Stephan[21:15:11] <zooey> oops, thanks (*blush*)[21:15:15] <zooey> hi there,[21:15:17] <stargater> hi stippi[21:15:32] <stippi> zooey: Hatte mich gerade dabei entspannt, mit einem Icon Set für Beam anzufangen.[21:15:52] <Methe> Beam test version rox zooey.[21:15:56] <zooey> stippi: Prima Idee, ich bin gespannt.[21:15:57] * Methe quesry zooey[21:16:01] * Methe query zooey[21:16:18] <stippi> zooey: New & Read...[21:16:29] <stippi> zooey: Welches Format müssen diese Bitmaps denn haben?[21:16:44] <zooey> stippi: png[21:16:49] <stippi> <let's switch to English>[21:17:02] <stippi> zooey: I tried that, but my icons were not displayed.[21:17:16] <stippi> zooey: I only had Mail_New and Mail_Read in that folder.[21:18:38] <stippi> zooey: Ups, Mail_Read was a WonderBrush image, and I had no New mails... now it works.[21:18:58] <zooey> stippi: ah, ok, it *did* sound strange... >:o)[21:19:10] <stippi> :_)[21:20:44] <stippi> zooey: looks like the alpha channel is used too, right?[21:22:37] *** phoudoin has joined #haiku[21:22:42] <zooey> stippi: oh yes, it blends with the 'Background'-image, too.[21:23:56] <Methe> here comes phoudoin! salute ![21:24:05] <phoudoin> hi guys[21:24:36] <[Beta]> hey.[21:26:08] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[21:28:42] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[21:29:28] <stargater> stippi dein neues about ist ja hammer gut in WB[21:36:44] *** Beo has quit IRC[21:39:47] *** MikeW has quit IRC[21:41:11] <Dr_Evil> hallo stippi![21:41:21] <stippi> Dr_Evil: Hi![21:42:37] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[21:43:50] *** valexey has joined #haiku[21:44:42] <Dr_Evil> stippi I'm still undecided about where to travel in holiday, perhaps Mombasa/Kenya[21:47:16] <Dr_Evil> anyone has a recommendation?[21:50:14] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[21:58:09] <petterhj> Dr_Evil, Norway[22:00:25] *** Betabel has joined #haiku[22:05:34] <phoudoin> I guess Egypt welcomes tourism like never these days. Alas.[22:05:45] <phoudoin> s/tourism/tourists/[22:08:35] *** phoudoin has quit IRC[22:10:33] *** Methe has quit IRC[22:15:50] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[22:16:49] *** illissius- has joined #haiku[22:22:22] *** tic has quit IRC[22:23:55] *** sys2 has quit IRC[22:25:06] *** illissius has quit IRC[22:25:18] *** illissius- is now known as illissius[22:26:08] *** tic has joined #haiku[22:26:18] *** Methe has joined #haiku[22:35:25] *** sys2 has joined #haiku[22:36:08] <johnny_b> good night[22:36:47] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[22:39:27] *** arbiter_dev has joined #haiku[22:40:57] *** sys2_ has joined #haiku[22:43:42] *** Methe has quit IRC[22:44:24] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[22:45:47] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[22:45:53] <fyysik> hi[22:46:08] <valexey> hi[22:46:16] <fyysik> anybody tried Fuji WebCam USB driver already?[22:48:23] *** sys2__ has joined #haiku[22:48:50] <tic> URL?[22:49:02] *** sys2_ has quit IRC[22:52:42] *** sys2 has quit IRC[22:54:23] *** sys2__ has quit IRC[22:54:27] *** sys2 has joined #haiku[22:57:37] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[22:57:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[23:00:51] <fyysik> tic - http://bebits.com/app/4185[23:11:01] *** evdubs has quit IRC[23:11:53] *** sys2 has quit IRC[23:13:19] *** sys2 has joined #haiku[23:14:46] *** zooey has quit IRC[23:14:55] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[23:16:50] *** fyysik has quit IRC[23:20:12] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[23:20:51] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[23:29:17] *** Stomper has joined #haiku[23:29:48] *** Belial- has quit IRC[23:30:53] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[23:35:01] *** fyysik has quit IRC[23:35:10] *** Korli has joined #haiku[23:35:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[23:43:42] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[23:45:01] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[23:47:10] *** petterhj has quit IRC[23:51:06] *** valexey_ has joined #haiku[23:53:31] *** SiCuTDeUx_ has joined #haiku[23:55:11] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC