July 26, 2005 
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July 26, 2005 [00:00:28] <LaesQ> I get 0d 0a at the end of every line[00:00:43] <@Korli> you should only have a 0a[00:01:00] <LaesQ> just oa?[00:01:01] <@Korli> gcc expects it on UNIX like platforms[00:01:01] <LaesQ> 0a[00:01:48] *** thies_ has quit IRC[00:03:08] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[00:03:30] <LaesQ> many thanks guys... I have to sleep now, but I'll play with that 2moro[00:03:31] <LaesQ> c ya[00:03:41] *** LaesQ has quit IRC[00:03:56] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[00:04:09] *** axeld has joined #haiku[00:04:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[00:04:17] <tic> hey axeld![00:04:38] <tic> axeld, have you tried running the haiku app_server on a secondary graphics card? :)[00:05:45] <Fanskapet> tic just got GRUB booting BeOS after much trouble.. even building my partition-table from scratch :)[00:05:52] <tic> Fanskapet, oh, yay! :)[00:06:01] <tic> Fanskapet, any virgin sacrifices? :)[00:06:31] <Fanskapet> seems like GRUB did't like having the BeOS partition after the Linux one. by some strange reason[00:06:33] <Fanskapet> hehe.. nah :D[00:06:44] <@axeld> Hi tic, no I don't - I don't have such a card :-)[00:07:00] <tic> axeld, okay. Really considering doing what m_eiman told me to :P[00:07:09] *** __nitro__ has quit IRC[00:08:04] *** matsu has quit IRC[00:09:12] <@axeld> tic: why not? although it doesn't give you *that* much over testing in a window right now :-)[00:09:56] <tic> axeld, oh, I want to do it so I can separate TV-output from GUI.[00:10:35] <tic> axeld, I'm basically going to have a TFT next to the TV displaying a GUI, playing time or whatever interesting I can come up with, and then play the content on the TV.[00:15:24] <@axeld> tic: yes, that sounds nice[00:16:01] <tic> axeld, indeed it does. The problem is that there aren't enough decoders/readers on BeOS :/[00:16:24] <tic> (but other than that, doing some kind of settop-system will probably be a zillion times easier than in Linux)[00:17:06] *** NathanW has joined #haiku[00:17:20] <@axeld> tic: what's wrong with VLC?[00:17:22] <@axeld> Hi NathanW[00:17:34] <NathanW> hi axeld[00:17:37] <tic> axeld, doesn't play everything I throw at it, basically. mplayer in linux does that.[00:18:06] <tic> axeld, which is more or less a requirement for a media box, right? :)[00:18:37] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[00:18:43] <tic> I hope VLC has a easy-to-use script interface/command line interface[00:18:47] *** Koki has joined #haiku[00:18:59] <NathanW> it's capable[00:19:14] <NathanW> not necessarily good, but it works[00:19:56] <tic> I'm happy if I can get/set position and volume.[00:20:14] <NathanW> that's easy enough[00:20:40] <@axeld> tic: isn't there also an MPlayer port?[00:20:57] *** flag_ has joined #haiku[00:21:11] <tic> axeld, yeah, but it can't load codecs or whatnot. :|[00:21:50] <NathanW> we need a media kit without horrible bugs, I think :p[00:22:06] <tic> "In other words, binary DLL codecs don't work."[00:22:21] <tic> and that kinda defeats the purpose of using mplayer :P[00:24:42] <tic> and oh, I need working TV-out on VIA CLE266 :P[00:24:59] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[00:25:02] <tic> (hopefully Rudolf will be able to finish his driver, with TV-out support.)[00:26:25] *** flag__ has joined #haiku[00:28:56] *** tic has quit IRC[00:29:03] <NathanW> Isn't there a media_server plugin that lets you use those?[00:30:00] *** tic has joined #haiku[00:31:16] <tic> grr, evil firefox[00:31:24] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[00:31:38] <NathanW> I just asked about the media_server addon[00:31:47] <NathanW> for divx, that loaded windows dlls[00:32:09] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[00:32:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[00:32:47] <@axeld> NathanW: that one existed, but it only loaded the DivX addon[00:32:47] <[Beta]> 'lo[00:32:57] <NathanW> hrrrm[00:33:11] <NathanW> it would be nice to get such a thing again, for WMV, which is apparently possible[00:33:17] <tic> yup, indeed.[00:33:50] <tic> that's basically the only way of going about supporting foreign formats.[00:34:05] *** flag___ has quit IRC[00:34:25] <NathanW> yeah[00:34:36] <NathanW> And if we can get that support as a media_server addon[00:34:42] <NathanW> That would be *really* nice[00:34:53] <@axeld> indeed[00:35:33] <tic> there is code in mplayer, "just" have to adapt it to beos. unless there's something inherent in the process that makes us dependant on mmap() and friends.[00:35:45] <NathanW> I doubt it[00:35:52] <tic> so do I.[00:36:03] <NathanW> I mean, mmap() can always be faked, for read only files, by copying the thing into RAM[00:36:18] <tic> Yeah. So it's more of a write-thing, but I don't see why one would want that.[00:36:29] <NathanW> yeah, exactly[00:36:46] <NathanW> that and Haiku will have mmap(), right?[00:36:53] <tic> I guess so. Axel?[00:38:04] *** stippi has joined #haiku[00:39:08] *** flag_ has quit IRC[00:39:29] <tic> hey stippi[00:39:36] <stippi> hi[00:39:38] <Methe> evening stippi ![00:39:42] <stippi> hi all![00:39:43] <stippi> :-)[00:41:01] <NathanW> hi stippi & Methe[00:41:15] *** Racer__X has quit IRC[00:41:33] <Methe> hello NathanW[00:42:48] <Methe> good night you Haikuers[00:42:53] <[Beta]> nn[00:43:28] *** Methe has quit IRC[00:52:21] *** agentmumu has joined #haiku[01:29:53] <CIA-6> axeld * r13826 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/support/Locker.cpp:[01:29:53] <CIA-6> Some style changes I forgot to commit.[01:29:53] <CIA-6> Also, BLocker now accepts NULL as a name and won't crash anymore in that case[01:29:53] <CIA-6> ("some BLocker" is then chosen as name).[01:40:27] *** Korli has quit IRC[01:41:41] *** DaaT has quit IRC[01:52:44] <CIA-6> axeld * r13827 /haiku/trunk/makehdimage: Added Terminal application.[01:53:31] *** arbiter_dev has joined #haiku[01:59:19] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[02:04:21] *** axeld has quit IRC[02:04:47] *** stippi has quit IRC[02:07:33] *** Begasus has quit IRC[02:10:14] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[02:29:52] *** The_Raven has joined #haiku[02:40:18] *** petterhj has quit IRC[02:46:57] *** slaad has quit IRC[03:02:42] *** BetaMax has joined #haiku[03:13:13] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[03:20:16] *** Master199 has quit IRC[03:23:33] *** arbiter_dev has quit IRC[03:24:50] * motoyama quanta namera[03:32:26] *** ablyss has quit IRC[03:44:17] *** Stomper has joined #haiku[03:53:44] *** fyysik has quit IRC[04:24:12] *** SiCuTDeUx is now known as Arrecho[04:29:29] *** The_Raven has quit IRC[04:31:38] *** Arrecho is now known as SiCuTDeUx[04:35:34] *** BetaMax has quit IRC[04:38:29] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[04:44:13] *** sl9c5 has quit IRC[04:50:47] *** Stomper has quit IRC[04:54:59] *** slaad has joined #haiku[05:08:58] *** motoyama has quit IRC[05:18:42] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[06:01:50] *** JosephSpiros has quit IRC[06:05:33] *** JosephSpiros has joined #haiku[06:11:20] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[06:20:59] *** Pascal has joined #haiku[06:21:15] *** Pascal has quit IRC[06:40:48] *** the_faulkenator has joined #haiku[06:59:19] <tic> hi guys.[07:01:55] <slaad> tic[07:04:27] <tic> hey slaad.[07:06:58] <tic> thinking of getting myself one of these: http://overclockers.com/articles1059/index02.asp[07:07:48] <tic> although something tells me eSATA is going to replace USB-2.0 for that soon.[07:09:15] <slaad> Nifty.[07:09:48] <tic> ultimately, it would contain a 1G FAT16 volume w/ a BFS driver, and the rest my /Home.[07:09:58] <tic> the problem is that there is no good BFS driver yet. :)[07:10:31] <slaad> For Windows?[07:10:36] <tic> yeah.[07:10:37] <slaad> Why not make it an R5PE isntall? :)[07:10:59] <slaad> Oh... wait...[07:10:59] <tic> Nah. I want to be able to access data from the disk without installing _too_ much stuff.[07:11:43] <slaad> I was thinking to boot from.[07:12:05] <tic> ah. but I often do not want to reboot the computer I'm on.[07:12:15] <slaad> Whinge, whinge, whinge ;)[07:12:20] <tic> that would be easy to do, though, in ZETA.[07:13:00] <slaad> What would?[07:13:08] <tic> boot off an USB disk[07:13:40] <slaad> Ah.[07:17:07] *** Koki has quit IRC[07:25:22] <tic> breakfast.[07:26:21] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[07:27:22] *** tic has quit IRC[07:29:15] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[07:31:29] *** JosephSpiros has quit IRC[07:33:14] *** Pascal has joined #haiku[07:33:47] *** Lt_Henry has quit IRC[07:34:00] *** Pascal has quit IRC[07:44:41] *** slaad has quit IRC[08:03:02] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[08:10:36] *** nPHYN1T3 has joined #haiku[08:11:44] *** slaad has joined #haiku[08:13:58] *** tic has joined #haiku[08:24:11] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[08:35:06] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[08:39:28] *** FastJack has quit IRC[08:46:58] *** nPHYN1T3 has quit IRC[08:53:39] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[09:01:35] *** Koki has joined #haiku[09:03:58] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[09:10:42] *** Lt_Henry has quit IRC[09:11:57] *** dabster has joined #haiku[09:11:59] *** dabeej has quit IRC[09:11:59] *** dabster has quit IRC[09:12:05] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[09:14:38] *** JBurton has joined #haiku[09:14:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o JBurton[09:14:40] <@JBurton> yo[09:15:55] <kma> hey[09:58:02] *** Koki has quit IRC[10:07:06] *** dabeej has quit IRC[10:08:10] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[10:09:58] *** m_eiman has joined #haiku[10:21:35] *** Korli has joined #haiku[10:21:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[10:21:57] <@JBurton> hey Korli[10:22:19] <@Korli> hey JBurton[10:22:23] <@Korli> whats up ?[10:22:36] <@JBurton> nothing interesting[10:22:45] <@JBurton> what about you ?[10:25:44] <@JBurton> Korli ?[10:32:10] <@Korli> JBurton back from a weekend in Austria[10:35:17] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[10:36:02] *** waveshaper has quit IRC[10:38:27] <@JBurton> ah yes agentmumu told me he met you, Korli[10:39:36] <@Korli> yeah I was surprised, such a tall guy[10:39:51] <@Korli> (compared to me :) )[10:41:03] <@JBurton> :P[10:41:23] <@JBurton> well you should meet me then, your ego would be happy :P[10:41:29] <@JBurton> (I'm 170cm)[10:41:42] <@Korli> you're a cool guy :p[10:41:58] <@JBurton> O_o[10:41:59] <@JBurton> :))[10:42:12] <@Korli> I found myself not that fluent in english (not even mentioning german)[10:42:36] <@JBurton> well it's like that if you don't have many chances to speak it[10:42:52] <@JBurton> I guess I would be like... "er.... well... yeah..."[10:42:57] <@Korli> I'm too used to talk "written", I don't speak english enough[10:43:03] <@JBurton> same here[10:44:24] <@Korli> maybe I'm not used to the german way of speaking english too :)[10:44:45] <@JBurton> eheh[10:44:47] <@Korli> as they aren't perfect[10:44:56] <@JBurton> brb coffee :P[10:47:52] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[10:52:58] *** bogomipz has joined #haiku[10:55:24] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[11:03:02] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[11:08:48] *** valexey has joined #haiku[11:18:37] *** xeD has joined #haiku[11:18:41] <@JBurton> hey xeD[11:18:48] <xeD> oi JBurton[11:19:26] *** AnEvilYak has quit IRC[11:20:16] <xeD> JBurton where are you going this summer?[11:20:22] <@JBurton> nowhere[11:20:24] <@JBurton> I'll stay here[11:20:33] <@JBurton> I burned my holidays already[11:20:44] <xeD> JBurton working?[11:20:51] <@JBurton> yeah[11:21:05] <@JBurton> except for a week from 12 to 17 august, when the company will close[11:21:10] <@JBurton> but I'll stay at home anyway[11:21:25] <xeD> haiku'ng[11:21:50] <@JBurton> maybe :P[11:21:54] <xeD> but you are near the sea...[11:21:57] <@JBurton> yes[11:22:08] <xeD> heheh you can enjoy summer also at home[11:22:10] <@JBurton> in fact, I'll probably go to the beach sometimes[11:25:22] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[11:42:14] *** Fanskap has joined #haiku[11:42:51] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[11:43:17] *** valexey has quit IRC[11:56:26] *** AnEvilYak has joined #haiku[11:57:15] *** Fanskap has quit IRC[11:58:57] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[12:06:29] *** Lt_Henry has quit IRC[12:14:27] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[12:17:15] *** Azalyn has quit IRC[12:21:32] *** Dr3w has joined #haiku[12:21:33] *** xeD has quit IRC[12:26:08] *** Methe has joined #haiku[12:32:22] *** Lt_Henry has quit IRC[12:32:22] *** Sg_Henry has joined #haiku[12:32:36] <Sg_Henry> mmm[12:32:48] <@JBurton> you got downgraded, Sg_Henry ?[12:32:56] <Sg_Henry> yeah[12:33:03] <Sg_Henry> each time my beos freezes[12:33:07] <@JBurton> :P[12:33:46] <@JBurton> brb[12:33:48] <Sg_Henry> have you tried to open www.iscomputeron.com topday ?[12:34:02] <Sg_Henry> each time I do today, my beos freezes[12:34:18] <Sg_Henry> mozilla and firefox[12:34:19] *** Dr3w has quit IRC[12:34:23] <Sg_Henry> not nete-positive[12:35:17] <Sg_Henry> well, at least, input_server or app_server dies, because pulse still updating at deskbar[12:37:24] <Sg_Henry> come on guys, lets check iscomputeron.com :D[12:40:33] <slaad> Works fine here.[12:40:39] <Sg_Henry> :o[12:41:19] <Sg_Henry> I tested with an old build of Mozilla, and a recent build of firefox[12:41:48] <slaad> Sounds like a personal problem to me ;)[12:41:53] <Sg_Henry> firefox opened many times, but the last try it crashed[12:42:08] <Sg_Henry> I read ICO all the days[12:46:54] <Sg_Henry> mmm... is the haiku input_server mature enought to replace R5 one?[12:47:18] <slaad> No idea.[12:47:31] <Sg_Henry> maybe my problem comes from there[12:47:48] <Sg_Henry> nah.. lets try it anyway[12:48:38] *** slaad has quit IRC[12:49:42] *** slaad has joined #haiku[12:49:57] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[12:57:23] *** Azalyn has joined #haiku[13:06:37] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[13:07:29] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[13:09:48] <Sg_Henry> damm.. now it does not hangs :([13:12:02] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[13:20:30] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[13:39:38] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[13:40:19] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[13:45:02] *** Begasus has quit IRC[13:45:06] *** Nies has joined #haiku[13:47:02] *** Methe has quit IRC[13:56:17] *** Methe has joined #haiku[14:01:24] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[14:04:17] <TheGreatDane> narf[14:04:46] <@JBurton> haiku input server is fully working[14:04:57] <@JBurton> but replacing the r5 input server with it is a bit tricky[14:05:00] <@JBurton> can be done, though[14:05:12] <sys2> JBurton, any new good progress news? :>[14:05:13] <@JBurton> (if you know what you are doing)[14:05:17] <@JBurton> not from me sys2 :)[14:05:24] <sys2> from anyone :>[14:05:27] <sys2> new screens? :>[14:05:56] <sys2> http://www.karlings.com/~danne/PICT1155.AVI <-- best news i can give ... my treadle hammer! :P[14:06:01] <TheGreatDane> tic[14:06:08] <TheGreatDane> beep beep :-)[14:09:02] <Methe> Hola Don JBurton , comes tai ?[14:09:18] *** slaad has quit IRC[14:10:04] <@JBurton> hi Methe :P[14:11:59] <sys2> dammit, do not put your thumb on the "wrench" and hit it with the hammer for all your worth[14:12:10] <sys2> makes you not realy able to work for day s:P[14:13:29] *** xeD has joined #haiku[14:16:13] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[14:16:19] *** Methe has quit IRC[14:19:38] *** Sil2100 has joined #haiku[14:19:59] <Sil2100> Hi[14:21:03] <kma> Hi![14:21:22] <Sil2100> How's it going?[14:21:53] *** dabeej has quit IRC[14:22:57] <kma> well, got at call from DHL today about a package from microsoft, will get it tomorrow. one of the servers had a harddisk crash at the office, so no perforce or incredibuild.. bought a new mobile phone and it has stopped raining.. so..[14:24:52] <Sil2100> Nice[14:25:37] <sys2> DHL ?[14:25:46] <kma> sys2: delivery service[14:25:58] <kma> sys2: http://www.dhl.se[14:26:01] <sys2> ohh :>[14:26:05] <sys2> what package then ? :P[14:26:10] <kma> dunno[14:26:20] <kma> think it contains Windows XP x64[14:26:40] <sys2> "place all your warezed cds of windows into this box and send it to us plz, kthxbye!"[14:27:05] <kma> hehe[14:27:07] <sys2> then you burn a haiku cd, write on it, "haiku will wtfpwn you" and place it in and send it back[14:27:17] <sys2> ps. fu![14:27:18] <sys2> :>[14:27:31] <kma> no... I traded my XP license for a XP x64 one[14:27:56] <sys2> wtf[14:27:57] <sys2> :>[14:28:07] <kma> what?[14:28:20] <sys2> x64 windows isnt that supported yet ? :>[14:28:28] <kma> nope.[14:28:32] *** pmr has quit IRC[14:28:32] <kma> but I'm a developer[14:28:41] *** vision has joined #haiku[14:29:50] <sys2> dammit[14:30:00] <sys2> i want to complete the damn hammer, but god damn thumb hurts to much :P[14:32:19] *** Methe has joined #haiku[14:32:20] *** Methe_ has joined #haiku[14:37:36] <Sg_Henry> I guess.... memcpy_PIII should crash on AthlonXP cpu, right?[14:37:36] *** Methe_ has quit IRC[14:37:36] *** Methe has quit IRC[14:38:13] *** Methe has joined #haiku[14:38:39] <@JBurton> sometimes[14:40:32] <Sg_Henry> soundrecorder crashes media_addon_server[14:40:47] <Sg_Henry> Beos Crash festival 2005[14:40:49] <Sg_Henry> :D[14:49:34] <vision> ision> i have BeDie - exploit for beos ;][14:49:35] *** Methe has quit IRC[14:56:01] <kma> they changed name to BeDead[15:00:54] <eNGIMa> does anyone know the status of the buildfactory?[15:01:10] <eNGIMa> getting a 404 after the redirect[15:01:38] <Sg_Henry> yeah, I had to build myself[15:02:13] <Sg_Henry> is reasonable fast to compile specific items[15:02:58] <eNGIMa> yeah, i have the tree here, but i get a few errors from time to time and takes a while so i dont give it much of a go what with uni work and all[15:09:10] *** Sg_Henry has quit IRC[15:18:14] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[15:19:44] *** vision has quit IRC[15:20:53] *** Methe has joined #haiku[15:24:31] *** Lt_Henry has quit IRC[15:24:44] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[15:25:30] <Lt_Henry> firefox crashes the whole system[15:25:35] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[15:25:47] <Lt_Henry> :([15:26:16] <@JBurton> cool isn't it ?[15:27:05] <Methe> non credo ?[15:27:06] <Methe> erf no[15:27:09] <Methe> what was it[15:27:12] <Methe> non credi[15:27:30] *** Lt_Henry has quit IRC[15:28:54] * Methe fetches JBurton[15:32:44] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[15:32:59] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[15:41:41] *** m_eiman has quit IRC[15:42:38] *** xeD has quit IRC[15:43:40] *** stargater has joined #haiku[15:43:43] <stargater> hi all[15:45:24] *** nielx has joined #haiku[15:45:26] <evdubs> hey[15:45:30] <nielx> Hola[15:45:51] <@JBurton> Methe sorry wasn't available[15:45:59] <Methe> =)[15:46:00] <Methe> no pb[15:46:22] <@JBurton> IO non credo = I don't think so[15:46:31] <@JBurton> TU non credi = you don't think so[15:46:43] <@JBurton> so, since in italian the subject isn't needed[15:46:44] <@JBurton> ...[15:46:49] <@JBurton> non credo / non credi[15:47:07] <Methe> and for question I just add a "?"[15:47:30] <@JBurton> yeah[15:47:39] <@JBurton> easy[15:47:41] <Methe> okie dookie[15:47:44] <Methe> it's cool[15:47:46] <Methe> non credi ?[15:47:49] * Methe autopets[15:47:49] <@JBurton> si :)[15:47:53] <Methe> bene[15:48:08] <Methe> okie i'm off to work[15:48:08] <Methe> hf[15:48:48] *** Methe has quit IRC[16:01:33] *** tqh has joined #haiku[16:01:33] *** stargater has quit IRC[16:10:05] *** sys2 has quit IRC[16:15:24] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[16:24:32] <nielx> OMG, I have a stalker[16:25:08] *** Sil2100 has quit IRC[16:29:43] <kma> yay[16:29:49] *** tqh has quit IRC[16:38:37] *** petterhj has quit IRC[16:45:44] *** motoyama has joined #haiku[16:46:40] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:03:20] *** stargater has joined #haiku[17:03:22] <stargater> re[17:03:24] * stargater is idle: BRB[17:04:59] <Lt_Henry> mmm[17:05:09] <Lt_Henry> usb is not working yet, right?[17:06:06] <@JBurton> no[17:06:16] <@JBurton> why are you asking ?[17:07:24] <@JBurton> for usb mouse ?[17:07:35] <Lt_Henry> usb kerboard[17:08:21] <@JBurton> it could even work[17:08:23] <Lt_Henry> mozilla and firefox freezes the system, and I guess the problem comes from input_server[17:08:31] <@JBurton> I see...[17:08:46] <@JBurton> well using haiku's input server has nothing to do with haiku's usb support[17:09:11] <Lt_Henry> I don't know where the problem is[17:09:36] <Lt_Henry> perhaps... app_server[17:11:31] <nielx> USB keyboards and mice should probably work with legacy support[17:11:41] <@JBurton> yeah[17:11:46] <@JBurton> if you enable it in the bios[17:12:08] <nielx> JBurton: Usually it will be enabled in the BIOS (at least all the computers I've tried it on)[17:12:10] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[17:13:32] <@JBurton> could be. I just disable it as soon as I turn on any new computer[17:13:33] <@JBurton> :)[17:13:41] <nielx> why?[17:14:57] <Lt_Henry> my usb works on beos... but maybe is the one who crashes[17:15:30] <@JBurton> nielx because I don't have a usb keyboard or mouse[17:15:38] <@JBurton> and I don't like the word emulation[17:15:39] <@JBurton> :P[17:15:54] <scanty> just get a USB->PS/2 adapter, problem solved :-)[17:15:56] *** tqh has quit IRC[17:15:58] <nielx> If you don't use other usb devices, you could try with disabling usb (simply move the usb busmanager and uhci bus out of the kernel add-ons)[17:16:07] <scanty> input devices are like wasting a USB port, IMO[17:16:15] <nielx> JBurton: in technical terms, it is not emulation, but Legacy Support[17:16:20] <nielx> ;-)[17:17:22] <Lt_Henry> scanty, not solved....[17:17:25] <Lt_Henry> avoided[17:17:41] <scanty> hehe[17:17:43] <scanty> as you wish :)[17:17:54] <nielx> Just that there is no problem. And which computer nowadays is built with less than 4 usb ports (I've got 8!)[17:17:57] <scanty> you can really put a USB port to better use than an input device, though :^)[17:18:02] <nielx> (in my computer from 2002)[17:18:15] <scanty> my x86 has only two USB I think[17:18:35] <Lt_Henry> nowadays they have lots of them[17:18:37] <scanty> I have four here, but had to buy a PCI card ^_^[17:18:39] <Lt_Henry> 6 16:18:39 <Lt_Henry> 6 at least[17:19:01] *** NathanW has quit IRC[17:21:54] *** crash_ has quit IRC[17:23:33] *** The_Raven has joined #haiku[17:24:37] *** crash_ has joined #haiku[17:28:10] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[17:29:16] *** Stomper has joined #haiku[17:29:25] *** Lt_Henry has quit IRC[17:34:06] <@JBurton> bye all[17:34:08] <@JBurton> I'm off[17:34:11] <@JBurton> see ya Korli[17:34:40] *** JBurton has quit IRC[17:37:37] *** Koki has joined #haiku[17:41:37] *** jeramy has joined #haiku[17:45:22] *** zooey has joined #haiku[17:45:41] <zooey> hi there![17:45:59] *** illissius- is now known as illissius[food][17:46:39] *** evdubs has quit IRC[17:46:40] *** evdubs has joined #haiku[17:47:18] *** Koki has quit IRC[17:49:56] *** miqlas has quit IRC[17:52:55] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:55:34] *** Nies has quit IRC[17:57:44] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[17:58:42] <Lt_Henry> it is not the input_server who crashes[17:58:57] <Lt_Henry> seems to be app_server[18:02:05] <tic> in?[18:03:15] <Lt_Henry> has the r5 app_server known bugs?[18:03:36] <tic> probably. :P[18:04:15] <Lt_Henry> what a stupid problem :P[18:07:27] <stargater> is the web admin from haiku.org here ?[18:07:34] * stargater has returned[18:09:01] <kma> ARGH[18:09:07] <kma> ops.. wrong channel[18:10:15] <nielx> kma: Don't worry, we're usually quite tolerant to primitive outcries[18:11:49] *** Lt_Henry has quit IRC[18:12:05] <Mariux3> iux3> i HAVE to install beos, i've been really eager to write some code for a long time now[18:12:11] <CIA-6> korli * r13828 /haiku/trunk/ (23 files in 3 dirs):[18:12:11] <CIA-6> clean up, style change, unused files are removed[18:12:11] <CIA-6> added ScreenSaver.cpp to ScreenSaver preferences to have Matrix working[18:12:37] <Mariux3> but i'll ask again, anyone know of any easy tasks that needs to be done?[18:12:51] <Mariux3> like that screenshot preferences thing f.ex.[18:13:51] <Mariux3> if someone is willing to guide me to some undone task im sure it'll be worth the effort[18:14:25] <@Korli> Mariux3 have you driver skills ?[18:15:02] <@Korli> i> i mean kernel driver[18:15:12] <Mariux3> nope, i only have experience with userspace[18:16:09] <@Korli> Mariux3 maybe have a look at our bugzilla[18:16:38] <Mariux3> that sounds ok[18:16:40] <@Korli> have you a working haiku build ?[18:17:10] <Mariux3> nope, but i think ill be able to fix that myself[18:17:36] <@Korli> then first get the all thing built, and test haiku[18:18:00] <Mariux3> http://bebits.com/app/3131 wrote that app a few years ago, so userspace apps are my expertice[18:18:13] <Mariux3> Korli ok ill do that, and have a look in the bugzilla[18:18:44] <@Korli> Mariux3 you'll surely find something to do, if you actually test haiku :)[18:18:57] <@Korli> bye[18:19:05] *** Korli has quit IRC[18:19:06] <Mariux3> thanks[18:19:39] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[18:24:52] *** motoyama has quit IRC[18:30:23] *** valexey has joined #haiku[18:31:14] *** ChrisK077 has joined #haiku[18:32:37] *** illissius[food] is now known as illissius[18:45:12] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:45:59] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[18:48:58] *** TheGreatDane has quit IRC[18:49:03] *** Euver has joined #haiku[18:50:07] *** Euver has quit IRC[18:55:05] *** Nies has joined #haiku[18:57:15] *** waveshaper has quit IRC[19:09:17] *** sys2 has joined #haiku[19:10:21] *** valexey has quit IRC[19:14:49] *** Koki has joined #haiku[19:18:57] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[19:20:46] *** Balle has joined #haiku[19:23:39] *** Balle has quit IRC[19:30:22] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[19:34:50] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[19:35:31] *** Korli has joined #haiku[19:35:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[19:39:45] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku[19:41:35] *** clee has left #haiku[19:43:29] *** hUMUNGUs has joined #haiku[19:45:52] *** TheGreatDane has joined #haiku[19:47:47] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[19:48:07] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[19:48:10] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku[19:48:17] *** sys2 has quit IRC[19:49:32] * stargater makes KAKAU for all[19:52:29] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[19:56:58] *** Konrad77 has joined #haiku[20:00:18] <hUMUNGUs> Could this be a cool feature for R2 ?? http://liihs.irit.fr/dragice/foldndrop/[20:00:26] <hUMUNGUs> check the video there[20:03:34] <stargater> hUMUNGUs is this was users needs ?[20:03:51] <evdubs> that's incredible[20:06:39] <hUMUNGUs> stargater: we dont need it, but it could be an option.[20:06:53] <evdubs> i like it :)[20:06:53] <hUMUNGUs> enable or disable[20:06:54] <stargater> :-)[20:07:39] <hUMUNGUs> look at OS X, its not the kernel itself that has made OS X so popular. Its all thoose goody goody gimmicks aswell.[20:08:13] *** valexey has joined #haiku[20:08:36] <stargater> hUMUNGUs but mac os x has very cool goody goody gimmicks and a modern User Interface[20:08:50] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[20:09:55] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku[20:10:13] <hUMUNGUs> stargater: i agree. Just what Haiku R2 should be about.[20:10:44] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[20:12:26] *** valexey has left #haiku[20:16:07] <evdubs> are we gonna call it r2? we need some codenames[20:16:32] <Konrad77> R2D1 =)[20:17:02] <petterhj> evdubs, it will probably have codenames first (under developing), but the _release_ will most prorably be R2 (as the name, RELEASE 2)[20:17:03] <evdubs> haha[20:17:29] <evdubs> right right.. i understand the whole deal of version numbers[20:17:52] <evdubs> codenames are cool though ;)[20:18:08] <petterhj> you should :)[20:18:29] <petterhj> will probably have our fair share of those :)[20:18:58] *** oco has joined #haiku[20:23:46] *** stargater has quit IRC[20:24:28] *** MikeW has quit IRC[20:36:23] <nielx> codenames: I vote for refering to the long and rich history of names in the Dutch Royal Family[20:36:35] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[20:41:39] <evdubs> hahaha[20:44:55] *** jeramy has quit IRC[20:47:23] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13829 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/general.c:[20:47:23] <CIA-6> added initialisation switch to 'enhanced mode'. The VIA driver is now[20:47:23] <CIA-6> independant of VESA mode and runs 'on it own'. Bumped version to 0.07. BTW[20:47:23] <CIA-6> version 0.06 has been confirmed working fully OK on two CLE266's and two KM400's[20:47:23] <CIA-6> already. If it had a preset VESA mode that is.[20:47:47] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13830 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/ (README.html UPDATE.html): updated docs[20:48:44] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13831 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/graphics/via/macros.h: updated register defines. Added are only standard VGA registers which apparantly are enough to make the card work in 'enhanced mode'.[20:50:06] *** hUMUNGUs has quit IRC[20:53:40] *** petterhj has quit IRC[20:58:59] *** Pascal has joined #haiku[21:00:06] *** The_Raven has quit IRC[21:03:37] *** Nies has quit IRC[21:18:08] *** Nies has joined #haiku[21:21:33] *** Stoerte has joined #haiku[21:21:56] *** Konrad77 has quit IRC[21:44:16] *** ChrisK077 has quit IRC[21:56:39] *** Pascal has quit IRC[22:02:02] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[22:05:36] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[22:05:46] <Lt_Henry> echo hi[22:16:40] *** illissius- has joined #haiku[22:24:34] *** jeramy has joined #haiku[22:24:57] *** illissius has quit IRC[22:25:28] <CIA-6> korli * r13832 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/abouthaiku/ (AboutHaiku.rdef haikulogo.png):[22:25:28] <CIA-6> applied mahlzeit's tip from http://www.haiku-os.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40[22:25:28] <CIA-6> haikulogo is now a png file[22:26:59] *** stippi has joined #haiku[22:29:35] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[22:29:52] <CIA-6> korli * r13833 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/abouthaiku/Jamfile: added a dependency haikulogo.png to AboutHaiku.rdef[22:31:48] *** nielx has quit IRC[22:32:03] <@Korli> hey stippi[22:32:08] <stippi> hi[22:32:08] <Dr_Evil> hi stippi[22:32:17] <@Korli> nice WB release it seems[22:32:25] <tic> Hi guys. Interesting discussion w/ Helmar. :)[22:32:37] <stippi> :-)[22:32:41] <stippi> Hi Dr_Evil![22:33:03] <@Korli> Dr_Evil hey[22:33:24] <stippi> BTW, I have just released WonderBrush 1.7 on BeBits. Finally.[22:33:49] <Dr_Evil> I just send Pascal the source to the DVB media_addon[22:34:07] <tic> stippi, oh, yay![22:35:36] *** Stomper has quit IRC[22:35:39] <@Korli> stippi I already noticed[22:36:36] <stippi> means I can work on Haiku a bit more... <grin>[22:38:10] *** zooey has quit IRC[22:38:12] <@Korli> stippi I had a hard time to extract the png file from the rdef file, does WB import rdef files ?[22:39:00] <stippi> Korli: Not import, sorry, I just added a quickly done export filter for rdef.[22:39:15] <stippi> just enough to export the Deskbar logo.[22:39:26] <@Korli> ah[22:39:42] *** FireGlacial has joined #haiku[22:39:55] <Dr_Evil> http://www.haiku-os.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40 nice one, except that i'm still default owner for most bugs :([22:40:25] <CIA-6> korli * r13834 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/abouthaiku/Jamfile: forgot the SEARCH for haikulogo.png[22:40:48] <Dr_Evil> bbl, shower...[22:41:03] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[22:43:11] <@Korli> Dr_Evil yeah, I noticed[22:45:23] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[22:47:49] *** Mike2K has joined #haiku[22:49:28] <@Korli> Dr_Evil I just updated some components, you're still owner of media plugins, addons, kit and servers[22:51:12] *** Mike2K is now known as MikeW[23:04:47] *** FireGlacial has quit IRC[23:05:25] <agentmumu> huhu Korli :)[23:05:29] <agentmumu> how was your flight?[23:05:58] <@Korli> heyhe agentmumu[23:06:15] <@Korli> it was nice and clean[23:08:11] <@Korli> agentmumu I really enjoyed Austria :)[23:08:38] <evdubs> where in australia were you?[23:08:51] <agentmumu> Korli: nice to hear :)[23:08:52] <agentmumu> evdubs: heh[23:09:13] <evdubs> errr[23:09:14] <evdubs> my bad[23:09:19] <@Korli> agentmumu I thought you were gone in Graz :)[23:09:39] <evdubs> nevermind my question ;)[23:09:47] <agentmumu> Korli: i am :)[23:10:13] <agentmumu> i'm currently sitting in the kunstlabor (artlab) and showing irc to those people[23:10:52] <@Korli> ah ok, I'm amazed there is Internet in a kunstlabor actually :)[23:11:38] *** evdubs has quit IRC[23:11:50] <johnny_b> night guys[23:12:00] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[23:12:03] <@Korli> agentmumu gallery images are missing on your website[23:12:09] <Dr_Evil> agentmumu was sind denn um 23:10 für Leute im Kunstlabor?[23:12:19] <agentmumu> Korli: i know, there are some problems with gallery2 and mambo[23:12:38] <agentmumu> Dr_Evil: der franz xaver, ein computer künstler :)[23:13:12] <Dr_Evil> Ich glaube den kenne ich nicht, aber ich geh trotzdem jetzt schlafen[23:13:22] *** jeramy has quit IRC[23:13:24] <agentmumu> Dr_Evil: kennst du welche aus dem kunstlabor?[23:14:47] <@Korli> agentmumu is it your place ? http://cam3.kunstlabor.at/view/view.shtml[23:15:55] *** oco has quit IRC[23:17:10] <Dr_Evil> agentmumu nein[23:21:31] <agentmumu> Korli: yes, hehe[23:21:34] <agentmumu> Korli: wait a second[23:21:42] <Stoerte> Anyone seen the BeBits search addon here:[23:21:43] <Stoerte> http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?submitform=Find&category=3[23:21:46] <Stoerte> ?[23:21:52] <agentmumu> Korli: do you see me?[23:23:25] <@Korli> agentmumu eheh yeah I see you :)[23:23:51] <@Korli> someone should flip the webcam ...[23:24:08] <agentmumu> hehe, yes[23:26:15] <SiCuTDeUx> what are you doing?[23:27:39] <@Korli> agentmumu you're less tall at the moment than in real :)[23:27:48] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[23:28:13] <agentmumu> Korli: hehe, yes :))[23:29:01] <agentmumu> Korli: so where is your webcam? ;)[23:30:43] <SiCuTDeUx> flip that webcam[23:30:49] <SiCuTDeUx> its make me dizzy![23:30:51] <SiCuTDeUx> jejejeje[23:30:58] <agentmumu> ok, wait a moment[23:31:34] <@Korli> agentmumu I don't have any, I couldn't place it as high as yours anyway :)[23:31:56] <agentmumu> so its normal now[23:32:11] <SiCuTDeUx> nice! agentmumu[23:32:34] <SiCuTDeUx> using BeOS agentmumu?[23:32:40] <agentmumu> currently not[23:32:50] <agentmumu> this is a linux axis cam[23:33:11] <SiCuTDeUx> oh ok[23:34:10] <SiCuTDeUx> whats that?[23:34:14] <SiCuTDeUx> kunstlabor?[23:34:41] <agentmumu> agentmumu> a place for computer artists[23:35:55] <SiCuTDeUx> ok[23:36:02] <SiCuTDeUx> BRB[23:36:50] <@Korli> agentmumu in fact it's normal[23:37:12] <agentmumu> Korli: what do you mean? the cam?[23:37:19] <@Korli> yeah[23:37:24] <agentmumu> yes, we changed it now[23:37:46] <@Korli> have a nice time[23:37:52] <@Korli> going to sleep, night[23:38:00] <agentmumu> Korli: night[23:38:45] *** Korli has quit IRC[23:48:07] *** _olaf has joined #haiku[23:51:00] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[23:53:27] *** _olaf has quit IRC[23:54:08] *** stargater has joined #haiku[23:54:26] *** AVGP has joined #haiku[23:54:48] <AVGP> Hello[23:55:18] <stargater> stippi bist du da ?[23:55:59] *** atla has joined #haiku[23:58:13] *** atla has quit IRC[23:58:46] <stargater> nobody here ?[23:59:07] <AVGP> scheint so[23:59:45] <stargater> hmm schade[23:59:58] <AVGP> tja