July 21, 2005 
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July 21, 2005 [00:00:02] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[00:00:13] *** tic has quit IRC[00:06:05] *** tic has joined #haiku[00:09:06] *** valexey has joined #haiku[00:11:18] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[00:11:37] *** Dr3w has quit IRC[00:13:52] *** IRCMonkey has joined #haiku[00:17:17] *** IRCMonkey is now known as Dr3w[00:20:07] *** oco has quit IRC[00:27:52] *** bmanv6 has joined #haiku[00:31:20] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[00:31:44] *** evdubs has quit IRC[00:34:41] *** fyysik has quit IRC[00:38:19] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[00:38:46] *** MikeW has quit IRC[00:43:21] *** sl9c5 has joined #haiku[00:44:03] *** valexey has quit IRC[00:44:19] *** BryanV has quit IRC[00:44:20] *** bmanv6 is now known as BryanV[00:53:14] *** NathanW has joined #haiku[00:57:51] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[01:00:15] *** Racer__X has quit IRC[01:03:38] *** skoe has joined #haiku[01:06:12] *** BetaMax has joined #haiku[01:08:30] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:09:32] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[01:14:34] *** El_Gringo has quit IRC[01:15:39] <CIA-6> mmlr * r13785 /haiku/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs):[01:15:39] <CIA-6> Added padding calculation (not final) so that flattening / unflattening actually works.[01:15:39] <CIA-6> Passes all unit tests now and works on Haiku too. Speed is not yet optimized and Message2.cpp is still not cleaned up.[01:25:35] *** petterhj has quit IRC[01:25:41] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[01:30:10] *** Dr3w has quit IRC[01:33:30] *** FireGlacial has joined #haiku[01:38:49] *** sl9c5 has left #haiku[01:53:39] *** mmadia has quit IRC[02:00:49] *** nPHYN1T3 has joined #haiku[02:06:07] *** jjkola has quit IRC[02:14:51] *** skoe has quit IRC[02:15:38] *** skoe has joined #haiku[02:18:40] *** Begasus has quit IRC[02:30:56] *** jeramy has joined #haiku[02:56:11] <jeramy> NathanW: you there?[02:56:21] <NathanW> hi jeramy[02:57:28] <jeramy> Hm.. where do I start..[02:57:53] <jeramy> How long did it take to write the driver?[02:58:03] <NathanW> the bcm440x driver?[02:58:09] <NathanW> About a week of concerted effort[02:58:13] <jeramy> I discovered the Be Book today on my HD. Yeah, the bcm440x[02:58:50] <jeramy> Most of the code was already written?[02:59:02] *** Zaranthos has quit IRC[02:59:11] <NathanW> yeah, a bit[02:59:18] <NathanW> I ported it from Linux[02:59:33] <jeramy> Maybe my first question should have been "are you busy?" ;)[03:00:32] <jeramy> Yeah, I thought so. Had you written a driver before?[03:00:56] <NathanW> no, I hadn't[03:01:01] <NathanW> well, a parallel port driver[03:01:05] <NathanW> but that hardly counts[03:02:06] <jeramy> cool. I'm just trying to get a figure about whether I can actually do it. :)[03:02:25] <jeramy> Did you start by writing the 5 functions the kernel exports?[03:02:55] <NathanW> well, there's a template[03:03:13] <NathanW> So I spent about a day dry-coding things I thought would work[03:03:36] <jeramy> You're talking about the EtherPCI sample code? I thought yours looked quite different.[03:03:47] <NathanW> it does[03:03:49] <NathanW> ok[03:03:50] *** Zaranthos has joined #haiku[03:03:53] <NathanW> I phrased that badly[03:04:06] <NathanW> There's a driver template that can be useful[03:04:15] <jeramy> :)[03:04:32] <NathanW> But basically, I spent a day or two trying to implement the things Broadcom's driver depends on[03:04:44] <NathanW> and then the ethernet interface[03:04:52] <NathanW> Which of course didn't work at first[03:04:59] <NathanW> That was the next few days :P[03:06:18] <jeramy> Well, I think I'm going to come back after I've read the Be Book.[03:06:53] <NathanW> ok[03:06:58] <NathanW> my e-mail is nathanw at uchicago dot edu[03:07:04] <jeramy> I know. :)[03:07:18] <NathanW> heh[03:07:19] <jeramy> (I saw it on bebits) :)[03:07:49] <jeramy> thanks[03:07:56] <NathanW> you're welcome[03:09:23] <NathanW> good luck[03:09:32] *** nPHYN1T3 has quit IRC[03:09:33] <NathanW> although please port from BSD :)[03:10:39] <jeramy> Yeah, I am.[03:10:48] <NathanW> oh good[03:10:53] <NathanW> One thing that may be helpful[03:11:04] <NathanW> Look at the ipro1000 driver in Haiku SVN[03:11:18] <NathanW> It was ported (partially) by encapsulating the FreeBSD driver[03:11:28] <jeramy> I wonder what the FreeBSD guys were thinking when they decided to call the 3com 3c59x series "ep"[03:11:39] <NathanW> heh[03:11:39] <skoe> lol[03:11:53] <NathanW> That's true of a lot of FreeBSD NIC names[03:12:04] <jeramy> It was a nasty time trying to find it.[03:12:10] <NathanW> Intel Etherexpress 100 is "fxp"[03:12:22] <NathanW> and Intel EE 1000 NICs are "em"[03:12:26] <NathanW> so who knows?[03:13:25] <jeramy> I was about to guess, but ... nothing I could say would even come close.[03:13:51] <NathanW> cat /dev/random | strings -n 3 :P[03:14:02] <jeramy> heh, yeah.[03:14:10] <jeramy> sometimes it's two.[03:14:16] <jeramy> -n 2[03:14:18] <NathanW> ok, -n 2[03:14:36] <jeramy> or.. maybe that's random, too.[03:14:44] <NathanW> hahaha[03:14:49] <NathanW> It's always 2 or 3[03:15:25] *** illissius is now known as illissius[sleep][03:16:30] <jeramy> ok... so if I take the BSD source, I'm going to get a whole bunch of errors, simply because I won't have all the headers... what's the best way to parse through them and find the Be equivalents?[03:16:44] <jeramy> Yes, that's a very broad question.[03:16:59] <NathanW> well, the build system is wrong too[03:17:01] <NathanW> look at the ipro1000 driver[03:17:22] <NathanW> Marcus already wrote a bunch of code that takes at least some FreeBSD kernel calls and turns them into BeOS ones[03:17:43] <NathanW> Also, man 3 <function> on a FreeBSD box :)[03:18:03] <NathanW> (or Google...)[03:18:57] * jeramy makes mental note to install FreeBSD[03:19:08] <jeramy> or not...[03:19:13] <NathanW> heh[03:19:21] <NathanW> It's a nice OS[03:19:36] <NathanW> All the man pages are online, though[03:19:45] <jeramy> works for me.[03:20:29] <jeramy> I've had it installed before, but I'm more comfy in Linux. Too bad I've destroyed all my Linux partitions.. :([03:20:45] <NathanW> heh[03:20:56] <jeramy> I'm using Windows right now.[03:20:58] * jeramy gags[03:21:09] <NathanW> aw[03:21:28] <skoe> lol[03:21:34] <NathanW> You will probably want BONE on BeOS, if you don't have it already[03:21:37] <skoe> FreeBSD is awesome[03:21:43] <NathanW> yeah, it is[03:21:47] <skoe> I'm using fbsd 5.4 AMD64 right now ^_^[03:22:02] <NathanW> I'm looking forward to 6[03:22:05] <skoe> Same[03:22:10] *** TLF has quit IRC[03:22:15] <NathanW> especially the PowerPC support[03:22:16] <skoe> I'm also looking forward to Haiku R1 :)[03:22:35] <NathanW> I have a 6-SNAP/ppc release running on a B&W G3[03:22:41] <NathanW> yeah, that too :)[03:23:13] <NathanW> We've made a lot of progress lately[03:23:13] <jeramy> I don't have BONE. Maybe after I get the network card up and running. :)[03:23:17] <NathanW> I just wish I had a BeOS machine that didn't suck here[03:23:25] <NathanW> haha[03:23:37] <NathanW> jeramy: you will want the network driver test harness, at the least[03:23:46] <skoe> I just wish BeOS Would run on my computer :-P[03:24:27] <jeramy> That's included in BONE? Is it on BeBits?[03:24:37] <NathanW> no, it's not[03:24:40] <NathanW> I'm trying to find it[03:24:41] <NathanW> sec[03:39:26] <NathanW> http://munuc.uchicago.edu/~nathanw/E-Drive.zip[03:39:31] <NathanW> also this might be useful[03:39:45] <NathanW> http://munuc.uchicago.edu/~nathanw/ethertemplate.zip[03:42:14] <jeramy> I have to reboot. I installed tortoiseSVN so that I wouldn't have to manually copy those 15 files in Marcus's driver.[03:42:37] <NathanW> heh[03:42:44] <NathanW> I can just zip them for you, too, if you want[03:43:22] <jeramy> that would be much appreciated.[03:43:57] <jeramy> is there a way in BeIDE, like ctags, where you can jump to a definition?[03:44:27] <NathanW> yes[03:44:37] <NathanW> It's a popup menu in the bottom left of a window[03:44:49] <NathanW> I think that's what you mean, anyway[03:46:26] <jeramy> I just clicked on the second one (with the etherpci project) and up popped a whole bunch of definitions/symbols. That's cool.[03:46:42] <jeramy> I just wonder if it includes system ones too...[03:47:14] <NathanW> http://munuc.uchicago.edu/~nathanw/ipro1000.zip[03:47:15] <jeramy> nope. oh well[03:47:18] <NathanW> I don't think so[03:47:24] <NathanW> It will jump to headers though[03:47:39] <NathanW> If you select a header name, and press alt-d it will open[03:49:05] <jeramy> it seems like it opens any header file in quotations.[03:49:14] <NathanW> yep[03:49:18] <NathanW> or in <>[03:49:19] <jeramy> unfortunately not the system files.. :([03:49:25] <NathanW> It should[03:49:27] <NathanW> It does here[03:49:30] <jeramy> It does?[03:49:40] <NathanW> yeah[03:50:27] <jeramy> hm. What version of BeIDE is it?[03:50:42] <NathanW> Every version of BeIDE since about 1998[03:51:08] <NathanW> And I think the ones before that[03:51:23] <NathanW> Since BeIDE is actually the Metrowerks CodeWarrior IDE[03:51:33] <jeramy> Hm, not on mine. I've got "touch" and the two files in quotations.[03:51:39] <NathanW> Which has had that feature for at least a decade[03:51:42] <NathanW> huh[03:51:43] <jeramy> Yeah, I saw that.[03:51:55] <NathanW> Is there something wrong with your system headers?[03:52:04] <jeramy> Could be.[03:52:13] <NathanW> there shouldn't be[03:52:15] <NathanW> weird[03:52:21] <NathanW> ok, I have to go[03:52:25] <NathanW> good luck[03:52:26] <jeramy> Oh, I moved the sample file to my home folder.[03:52:34] *** NathanW has quit IRC[03:52:48] *** FireGlacial has left #haiku[04:25:10] *** fyysik has quit IRC[04:31:10] *** skoe has quit IRC[04:32:53] *** skoe has joined #haiku[04:39:26] *** jeramy has quit IRC[04:40:05] *** skoe has quit IRC[04:41:28] *** skoe has joined #haiku[05:17:55] *** skoe has quit IRC[05:19:54] *** skoe has joined #haiku[05:45:10] *** BetaMax has quit IRC[05:57:38] *** skoe has quit IRC[05:57:51] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[05:59:34] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[06:06:18] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[06:07:11] <miqlas> re[06:14:35] *** illissius- has joined #haiku[06:23:07] *** illissius[sleep] has quit IRC[06:31:34] *** the_faulkenator has quit IRC[06:33:04] *** the_faulkenator has joined #haiku[07:28:22] *** miqlas has quit IRC[07:33:50] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[07:47:49] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[07:53:15] *** thies has quit IRC[07:56:04] *** skoe has joined #haiku[07:57:10] *** skoe has quit IRC[07:59:48] *** skoe has joined #haiku[08:08:53] *** thies has joined #haiku[08:22:13] *** skoe has quit IRC[08:30:32] *** Euver has joined #haiku[09:03:45] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[09:04:04] *** emwe has joined #haiku[09:19:14] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[09:25:53] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:27:56] *** slaad has joined #haiku[09:34:40] *** xeD has joined #haiku[09:35:20] *** Ghostride has quit IRC[09:41:50] *** Koki has quit IRC[09:45:16] *** Koki has joined #haiku[09:46:42] *** waveshaper has quit IRC[09:55:55] *** emwe has quit IRC[10:13:26] *** Ghostride has joined #haiku[10:13:50] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[10:15:12] *** Koki has quit IRC[10:17:53] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[10:18:15] *** BNickName has joined #haiku[10:35:16] *** Euver has quit IRC[10:37:57] *** slaad has quit IRC[10:45:37] *** Racer__X has joined #haiku[10:47:55] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[10:49:26] *** slaad has joined #haiku[10:52:08] *** Mandaryne has joined #haiku[10:52:45] *** Lt_Henry has joined #haiku[10:54:38] *** ProctonW_ is now known as ProctonW[11:07:47] *** BNickName has quit IRC[11:08:22] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[11:16:20] *** flag has quit IRC[11:28:46] *** ProctonW has quit IRC[11:46:33] *** xeD has quit IRC[11:49:48] *** flag_ has joined #haiku[11:50:24] *** ProctonW has joined #haiku[11:55:06] *** flag__ has joined #haiku[12:06:53] *** flag_ has quit IRC[12:09:32] *** flag_ has joined #haiku[12:15:20] <Lt_Henry> appart from the BeBook... is there any tutorial for introducing into media_kit ?[12:16:26] <slaad> There's a book... "Advanced Programming for the BeOS" or something. But it's tres dated.[12:20:29] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[12:20:37] <johnny_b> hi[12:20:47] *** tqh has joined #haiku[12:23:07] *** Methe has joined #haiku[12:24:47] *** flag__ has quit IRC[12:33:19] *** Dr3w has joined #haiku[12:35:02] <Dr3w> can anyone tell me if libstd.h is in the haiku src tree?[12:40:04] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[12:47:08] *** unique has joined #haiku[12:49:03] *** unique has quit IRC[12:51:15] *** flag__ has joined #haiku[12:58:33] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[13:03:20] *** flag_ has quit IRC[13:04:24] *** tqh has quit IRC[13:06:27] *** Karina`` has quit IRC[13:07:34] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[13:42:50] <CIA-6> stippi * r13786 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/RootLayer.cpp: fixed a debug message[13:43:25] <CIA-6> stippi * r13787 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (WorkspacesLayer.cpp WorkspacesLayer.h): inactive workspaces are drawn with darker colors[13:50:33] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[13:50:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[13:56:27] *** fyysik has quit IRC[14:05:18] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[14:05:19] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[14:07:47] *** thorn__ has joined #haiku[14:17:44] *** Leo42 has joined #haiku[14:17:45] *** bencer has quit IRC[14:44:58] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[14:51:25] *** [jmc] has joined #haiku[14:56:38] <CIA-6> stippi * r13788 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/PrefView.cpp: source is a BControl pointer, so we need to dynamic_cast, no?[14:58:27] *** BNickName has joined #haiku[14:58:36] *** BNickName has quit IRC[14:59:36] <CIA-6> stippi * r13789 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/PrefHandler.cpp:[14:59:38] <CIA-6> Appearantly, there is a race condition when setting preferences, this fixes (one[14:59:38] <CIA-6> of) the crash(es?), but we should really fix the race condition, but I have no[14:59:38] <CIA-6> energy to get to know the code more. I'm thinking the PrefHandler class needs[14:59:38] <CIA-6> locking, since it is used everywhere, it is probably best to put the locking[14:59:38] <CIA-6> directly into the PrefHandler methods.[15:06:27] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[15:06:32] *** TheGreatDane has joined #haiku[15:06:48] <TheGreatDane> plunkk[15:08:22] <TheGreatDane> tic howdyu[15:08:28] <TheGreatDane> geez I can't type today[15:08:46] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[15:15:44] <TheGreatDane> tic I have an idea... you around?[15:16:00] <TheGreatDane> (not a new feature, an idea about a problem)[15:16:10] <TheGreatDane> (and its solution)[15:37:14] *** tqh has joined #haiku[15:37:19] <CIA-6> phoudoin * r13790 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/rtl8139/driver.c:[15:37:19] <CIA-6> Add support for others rtl8139-based devices, beyond the vanilla RealTek vendor/device IDs.[15:37:19] <CIA-6> Untested.[15:39:04] *** jeramy has joined #haiku[15:45:33] *** awad has left #haiku[15:47:55] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[15:54:11] *** Pepe_Le_Pew has joined #haiku[15:54:56] <Dr3w> Hey Dane.[15:55:02] <Dr3w> Dane, are you the BeOSRadio guy?[16:02:23] *** MikeW has quit IRC[16:08:42] *** jjkola has joined #haiku[16:08:49] <jjkola> hello[16:09:05] <[jmc]> si kola kakava nu mureva.[16:10:00] *** petterhj has quit IRC[16:11:14] <miqlas> Hello![16:11:28] <miqlas> I found an interesting webpage:[16:11:29] <miqlas> http://r300.sourceforge.net/R300.php[16:11:48] <miqlas> This is an open-source Radeon 3d driver for linux with Mesa.[16:12:00] <miqlas> Can anyone port to BeOS/Haiku?[16:12:41] <miqlas> Please!!![16:13:46] <Methe> so u can play with teapot on beos ?[16:13:51] <Methe> **so cool**[16:13:52] <Methe> ...[16:14:07] *** BetaMax has joined #haiku[16:14:53] <miqlas> and with quake 2, and 3...and with AtomoCAD...[16:15:02] *** Pepe_Le_Pew has quit IRC[16:15:03] <miqlas> **so smart**[16:15:45] <Methe> quake 3 ?[16:15:48] <Methe> where ?[16:16:59] <miqlas> when anyone port this (no, no, not you.... anyone, but not YOU!) Hehe...[16:22:15] *** brennanos has joined #haiku[16:22:18] *** Leo42 has quit IRC[16:22:18] <brennanos> hi[16:23:07] *** flag_ has joined #haiku[16:23:37] <brennanos> purplus.com is offering a decent deal on Zeta 1.0... $10 off and free shipping for previous buyers of BeOS[16:24:03] <miqlas> This is cool :)[16:25:15] <brennanos> still $89.95, but I may bite[16:26:45] <Begasus> $99[16:27:17] <brennanos> (09:23:25) brennanos: purplus.com is offering a decent deal on Zeta 1.0... $10 off and free shipping for previous buyers of BeOS[16:30:34] <Begasus> BeOS Pro 5.03 - CD ... did BeInc ever released that one? (outside of the updates)?[16:31:38] <Begasus> I know they have a R5 Pro ...[16:32:18] <Begasus> had* ;)[16:32:27] <AnEvilYak> I want to say the european CDs were 5.03[16:32:29] <AnEvilYak> but I might be wrong.[16:32:42] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[16:32:56] <Begasus> the one I have here is 5.0[16:33:09] <Methe> AnEvilYak[16:33:13] <Methe> my cd is 5.01[16:33:16] <Methe> bought it in france[16:33:19] <Begasus> ohwell no biggies ..[16:33:26] <Methe> and I bought it[16:33:27] <AnEvilYak> like I said, I wasn't sure :)[16:33:33] <Methe> after Be annonced it died =)[16:33:38] <Methe> so probably last series =)[16:33:44] <Begasus> probly[16:34:17] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[16:34:36] <miqlas> bye[16:34:46] *** miqlas has quit IRC[16:35:26] <Begasus> bbl[16:35:37] *** Leo42 has joined #haiku[16:37:00] <brennanos> mine is 5.01 too[16:37:07] <brennanos> Im pretty sure[16:37:12] <brennanos> maybe it is 5.03[16:37:35] <Methe> OMFG[16:37:44] <Methe> bombs just blew again in london metro[16:37:45] *** Pepe_Le_Pew has joined #haiku[16:38:01] <BetaMax> :| when? now?[16:38:13] <Methe> yes[16:38:15] <[Beta]> Methe: watching CNN? slow news channel.[16:38:28] <[Beta]> Methe: only small incidents compared to the other day.[16:38:30] <Methe> pardon me ?[16:38:32] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[16:38:35] <Methe> yeah but still[16:38:40] *** [jmc] has quit IRC[16:38:45] <Methe> whats important is not thesize now[16:38:50] *** Begasus has quit IRC[16:38:57] <Methe> only that peeps will never feel secured[16:39:06] <[Beta]> It depends, they could have been kids firecrackers to cause a panic.[16:39:25] *** flag__ has quit IRC[16:39:39] <[Beta]> I'm still happy to travel to London; noone is going to stop me doing aanything. :)[16:39:41] <Dr3w> I am in the UK now.[16:39:49] <Dr3w> They were not bombs.[16:40:13] <Dr3w> They were detonators, with no explosives. They have caught one of them.[16:40:14] <[Beta]> They'd mentioned possibly that only the detonators went off(?)[16:40:38] <Methe> ah[16:40:38] *** flag__ has joined #haiku[16:40:44] <[Beta]> Dr3w: did you also see they arrested someone just outside Downing st.?[16:41:05] <Dr3w> no[16:41:34] <BetaMax> [Beta] you rigth sloww news[16:42:05] <[Beta]> i've been watching it since I came home just after 3.[16:42:15] <[Beta]> its damn hot out (for UK).[16:46:24] *** Methe has quit IRC[16:52:43] *** flag_ has quit IRC[16:54:09] <Dr3w> Actually, its more serious than the last time I read bbc.co.uk....[16:56:16] *** flag_ has joined #haiku[16:58:30] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[17:04:03] <TheGreatDane> Hiya Dr3w Sorry, didn't see your message till now. Yes I am.[17:04:25] <TheGreatDane> tic[17:08:17] *** flag__ has quit IRC[17:09:53] *** flag__ has joined #haiku[17:16:39] <TheGreatDane> http://www.tunetrackersystems.com/images/lightning.png[17:22:29] *** flag_ has quit IRC[17:22:55] *** Konrad77 has joined #haiku[17:26:15] *** jeramy has quit IRC[17:27:20] *** slaad has quit IRC[17:34:26] *** thorn__ has quit IRC[17:37:29] *** matsu has joined #haiku[17:41:24] <TheGreatDane> tic[17:43:09] *** MikeW has quit IRC[17:47:58] *** mahlzeit has joined #haiku[17:47:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mahlzeit[17:48:29] *** xeD has joined #haiku[17:48:54] *** Koki has joined #haiku[17:53:29] *** ChrisK077 has joined #haiku[17:58:03] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[18:10:13] *** flag_ has joined #haiku[18:15:25] *** johnny_b has quit IRC[18:24:54] *** flag___ has joined #haiku[18:25:18] <Dr3w> later, I am goin ghome.[18:25:21] *** Dr3w has quit IRC[18:26:12] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku[18:27:11] *** Zenton has joined #haiku[18:28:22] *** flag__ has quit IRC[18:48:31] *** [Beta] has quit IRC[19:17:25] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku[19:17:56] *** jeramy has joined #haiku[19:23:48] *** BetaMax has quit IRC[19:24:27] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[19:24:57] *** eazel7 has left #haiku[19:25:22] *** TLF has joined #haiku[19:32:09] *** Mandaryne is now known as PulkoMandy[19:34:19] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[19:37:06] *** ChanServ has joined #haiku[19:37:06] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[19:39:58] *** b3w has quit IRC[19:40:51] *** xeD has quit IRC[19:45:20] *** johnny_b has joined #haiku[19:45:28] *** tqh is now known as tqh_away[19:46:16] *** dos4 has joined #haiku[19:48:26] <johnny_b> hi[19:48:49] <@mahlzeit> hubba hubba[19:53:35] *** tqh_away is now known as tqh[20:02:43] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[20:04:32] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[20:07:59] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[20:09:40] *** flag__ has joined #haiku[20:09:59] *** thorn__ has quit IRC[20:15:35] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[20:19:06] *** fyysik has quit IRC[20:22:42] *** flag_ has quit IRC[20:24:39] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[20:27:47] *** Fanskap has joined #haiku[20:37:31] *** bonefish has joined #haiku[20:37:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o bonefish[20:37:35] <@bonefish> Yo![20:39:42] <evdubss> whaddup[20:42:00] *** emwe has joined #haiku[20:42:34] <dos4> hello bonefish, good evening![20:42:40] *** dos4 is now known as Dr_Evil[20:42:40] <[Beta]> hey yo[20:42:58] *** FanSkape has joined #haiku[20:45:56] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[20:48:08] *** Fanskap has quit IRC[20:50:54] *** FanSkape is now known as Fanskapet[20:51:02] * Fanskapet cries out loud![20:51:09] <Fanskapet> i got my Zeta package today![20:51:15] <Fanskapet> and guess what.. it did NOT work :([20:53:01] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[20:54:45] *** flag_ has joined #haiku[20:55:26] <Fanskapet> DaaT, just got my zeta CD :([20:57:10] <Koki> what is the problem Fanskapet?[20:58:02] <Fanskapet> Koki pitch black screen on the inbuilt laptop panel[20:58:17] <Fanskapet> I always need to have an external monitor[20:58:26] <Fanskapet> same issue as in all other BeOS versions[20:58:35] <Koki> video chipset?[20:59:39] <DaaT> radeon[20:59:41] <DaaT> 9700[20:59:44] <DaaT> same IDs as mine[21:00:22] <Koki> and it does not work?[21:00:56] <DaaT> nope[21:00:57] <DaaT> weird I know[21:01:07] <Koki> tried http://www.bebits.com/app/2938 ?[21:01:38] <Fanskapet> yep yep[21:02:21] <Fanskapet> just gave me some nasty graphic errors.. not on the panel though.. pitch black there.[21:02:32] <Fanskapet> but that issue is relating the ID it seems.[21:02:42] <Fanskapet> but the panel issue. well it's damn odd.[21:03:03] <Koki> maybe it is DVI?[21:03:03] <Fanskapet> the strange thing is that my panel worked in some Zeta version before.. RC1 i think[21:03:16] <Fanskapet> but then i couldn'[21:03:31] <Fanskapet> couldn't get colors so the gfx card wasn't really supported[21:03:32] <Koki> did you report the problem to YT?[21:04:04] <DaaT> btw Fanskapet, have you tried an earlier version of the driver? the 3.xx family[21:04:09] <@bonefish> Dr_Evil: Hi![21:04:48] <Fanskapet> DaaT nah i haven't[21:04:58] <DaaT> Fanskapet, could help, look at BeShare I think[21:05:19] <Fanskapet> Koki yeah i've think i've posted the bug-report when i was using.. a. well illegal version of the RC builds[21:06:14] *** mahlzeit has quit IRC[21:06:38] *** flag__ has quit IRC[21:06:59] <Fanskapet> DaaT, hmm the javashare still works downloading files aight?[21:07:29] <DaaT> don't know, haven't used it in ages, but should work[21:07:31] <Koki> don't think yt will want to help if the copy you are running is illegal...[21:08:45] <Fanskapet> Koki, well since i used the RC to try it out if it worked before i bought it.. and really they should be glad to recive all bug-reports[21:09:21] *** flag__ has joined #haiku[21:10:23] <Fanskapet> well well maybe i should look at their bugzilla once again[21:11:00] <Koki> send an email to tech support. they are more likely to have an answer, if there is one, that is.[21:11:26] <DaaT> Koki's right[21:11:57] <Fanskapet> hmm what's their tech-email?[21:12:35] <Fanskapet> and one more thing.. is there any difference from activating Zeta via internet or without ?[21:12:56] <Fanskapet> since i got no networking up and running and i want to get rid of that popup[21:13:00] <jeramy> You have to activate it? yech.[21:13:11] <Fanskapet> yep[21:13:48] <Koki> Fanskapet: just contact YT tech support, and they will help you out.[21:13:58] <Dr_Evil> Fanskapet well, they must have a way to do it without inet[21:14:14] <Koki> yes, you can activate ZETA w/o a net connection.[21:14:20] <Fanskapet> Dr_Evil yeah indeed they have.. you can choose.. but something must be different between those :)[21:14:37] <Fanskapet> my question was just.. is there a difference? :) should be since they have two alternatives :)[21:15:18] <Koki> there is a difference in the procedure, but no difference once it is activated.[21:15:33] <Fanskapet> hmm can't find the tech-support mail anywhere on the site...[21:18:00] <Koki> Fanskapet: it is displayed in the activation app.[21:18:15] <Koki> there is a TEL # and an email address.[21:19:19] <Fanskapet> agh.. then i need to drag out the external fat 17" monitor again and reboot.. *sigh*[21:19:23] <Dr_Evil> just be creative and remove the activation[21:20:11] <Fanskapet> anskapet> a good day today really :) a really bad day at work.. been speaking with a freind's girlfreind of her breaking up with him and now this aswell :)[21:20:21] <Fanskapet> well im a lucky guy ! :D[21:21:19] <Fanskapet> yeah... i gotta get rid of that popup :D[21:21:40] <Fanskapet> so it can't popup on my black screen.. that would be bad :D[21:22:24] *** flag_ has quit IRC[21:28:01] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[21:30:07] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[21:35:04] *** flag__ has quit IRC[21:36:21] <Fanskapet> well posted a bug on their bugzilla again[21:37:55] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13791 /haiku/trunk/src/bin/gdb/ (bfd/Jamfile gdb/Jamfile): (log message trimmed)[21:37:56] <CIA-6> This is the kind of small bug that takes hours to track down: The missing[21:37:56] <CIA-6> grist caused bfd to be compiled using gdb's config.h. 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K8M800 still needs to be setup (PLL registeradresses and ranges[23:35:48] <CIA-6> differ here). Although set refreshrates are about 5% too high, you can now[23:35:48] <CIA-6> decently set any mode you like: as long as you have *some* vesa mode preset[23:35:49] <CIA-6> (still). Looking at a soothing 75Hz now here :)[23:37:16] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13793 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/driver.c: updated some naming stuff[23:37:51] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13794 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/graphics/via/ (DriverInterface.h macros.h): updated register defines for PLL.[23:39:36] *** fyysik has quit IRC[23:41:51] *** Leo42 has quit IRC[23:44:46] *** jeramy has quit IRC[23:45:13] *** kr1stof has quit IRC