July 16, 2005 
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July 16, 2005 [00:14:54] *** Racer__X has quit IRC[00:22:41] *** jjkola has quit IRC[00:23:04] *** bs0 has joined #haiku[00:25:00] *** r0nny has quit IRC[00:28:57] *** Korli has joined #haiku[00:28:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[00:29:08] *** TLF has joined #haiku[00:30:40] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[00:31:37] *** fyysik has quit IRC[00:34:24] *** sys2 has quit IRC[00:42:22] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[00:50:58] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[00:51:16] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[00:51:34] * SiCuTDeUx is away: No estoy! - Not Here![00:54:04] *** evdubs has quit IRC[01:28:06] *** __nitro__ has quit IRC[01:34:09] *** Begasus has quit IRC[01:53:31] *** DarthVader has quit IRC[01:57:47] *** Dr_Evil_ has joined #haiku[01:58:09] <CIA-6> korli * r13692 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/input_server/devices/keyboard/Keymap.cpp: added some checks, this shouldn't be needed with a consistent keymap, but as we don't want to crash in this case ... (could help DarkWyrm)[01:58:21] *** __nitro__ has joined #haiku[01:59:26] *** Dr_Evil_ has quit IRC[02:00:09] *** Korli has quit IRC[02:00:19] *** illissius has joined #haiku[02:00:25] *** Dr_Evil_ has joined #haiku[02:00:49] *** illissius has quit IRC[02:01:36] *** Dr_Evil_ has quit IRC[02:03:02] *** illissius has joined #haiku[02:10:19] *** underthumb has joined #haiku[02:16:25] *** petterhj has quit IRC[02:27:26] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[02:29:08] *** slaad has joined #haiku[02:30:56] *** petterhj- has joined #haiku[02:32:19] *** petterhj has quit IRC[02:39:02] *** TLF has quit IRC[03:00:48] *** __nitro__ has quit IRC[03:09:40] *** mmadia2 has joined #haiku[03:12:40] *** mmadia2 is now known as mmadia[03:13:36] *** mmadia has left #haiku[03:13:47] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[03:18:06] *** underthumb has quit IRC[03:26:01] *** the_faulkenator has joined #haiku[03:27:23] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[03:28:50] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[03:31:25] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:33:47] *** the_faulkenator has quit IRC[03:34:40] *** the_faulkenator has joined #haiku[03:42:24] *** scanty has quit IRC[03:57:31] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[04:03:59] *** petterhj has quit IRC[04:34:51] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[04:36:38] *** w-ber has quit IRC[04:52:15] *** NathanW has quit IRC[05:21:54] *** petterhj has quit IRC[05:40:48] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[05:54:18] *** the_faulkenator has quit IRC[05:55:48] *** underthumb has joined #haiku[05:56:32] *** underthumb has quit IRC[06:09:59] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[06:33:07] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[06:44:20] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[06:44:49] *** petterhj has quit IRC[06:44:49] *** ConneX is now known as petterhj[07:05:19] *** MikeW has quit IRC[07:12:45] *** Koki has quit IRC[07:20:02] *** the_faulkenator has joined #haiku[08:08:58] *** thies has quit IRC[08:09:09] *** thies has joined #haiku[08:44:13] * SiCuTDeUx is away: No estoy! - Not Here![08:48:08] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[09:00:18] *** tqh has joined #haiku[10:01:26] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[10:07:12] *** tic has quit IRC[10:12:17] *** slaad has quit IRC[10:15:18] *** sys2 has joined #haiku[10:18:49] *** tic has joined #haiku[10:20:07] <tic> and now, time to install ZETA. (hopefully)[10:21:02] <sys2> traitor![10:21:12] <tic> huh?[10:21:34] <tic> I'd need to install R5 or whatever anyway, so I might as well install something that does not make my system crash on shutdown.[10:22:28] <sys2> use haiku! ;P[10:22:35] <tic> .... right.[10:23:10] <tic> *hmm*[10:23:13] *** tic has quit IRC[10:34:27] *** xeD has joined #haiku[10:42:05] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13693 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/driver.c: disabled R4.5.0 cloning bug workaround. Zeta 1.0 kernel is incorrectly identified as being R4.5.0. We should probably just remove the workaround alltogether anyway..[10:42:56] *** Korli has joined #haiku[10:42:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Korli[10:47:23] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13694 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/ (4 files in 4 dirs): shutoff all R4.5.0 cloning workarounds for the drivers I worked on.[10:50:11] *** valexey has joined #haiku[10:50:53] *** Mandaryne has joined #haiku[10:51:55] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[10:52:09] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[10:55:02] <Fanskapet> http://www.dinside.no/php/art.php?id=217984[10:55:08] <Fanskapet> anskapet> a new acer ferrari laptop.[10:55:15] <Fanskapet> damn ugly though :)[10:55:28] <kma> too heavy[10:55:57] <Fanskapet> ah well i think my current lappie wights as much as that one[10:57:01] <kma> more my style[10:58:04] <Fanskapet> yep.. 3 kg is the weight of my lappie[10:58:27] <Fanskapet> hmm is it a PowerBook mini?[10:58:36] <kma> no[10:58:51] <kma> that's a Zepto 120SL.. 1.18kg with battery[10:59:30] <kma> with an extra battery it got 8 hours of battery time ;)[11:04:16] *** tic has joined #haiku[11:05:32] <tic> grr..[11:05:36] <tic> KDL when copying over my home folder. :([11:06:19] <[Beta]> in zeta?[11:06:33] <tic> No, BeOS R5.[11:06:39] <tic> the BFS is pretty fucked up[11:07:11] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[11:21:48] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[11:38:01] *** Leo42 has joined #haiku[11:38:33] *** Leo45 has joined #haiku[11:50:58] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[11:58:10] <Fanskapet> hmm[11:59:44] *** tic has quit IRC[12:00:38] *** valexey has quit IRC[12:02:27] *** tic has joined #haiku[12:05:16] <Fanskapet> tic[12:06:12] *** Korli has quit IRC[12:07:02] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[12:19:14] *** tic has quit IRC[12:21:18] *** tic has joined #haiku[12:21:21] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[12:21:33] *** petterhj has quit IRC[12:21:33] *** ConneX is now known as petterhj[12:25:30] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[12:27:44] *** xeD has quit IRC[12:27:51] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[12:30:39] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[12:31:00] *** Methe has joined #haiku[12:31:24] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[12:31:44] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[12:47:52] *** jjkola has joined #haiku[12:49:23] *** tic_ has joined #haiku[12:57:51] *** tic has quit IRC[12:57:53] *** tic_ is now known as tic[13:05:14] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[13:07:47] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[13:10:27] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[13:26:47] <tic> I have a problem. I have a 37G disk space, and I want to (fairly) seamlessly switch between ZETA, R5 and Haiku as well as keeping my Home folder intact. Pondering 20G main system (Zeta R1 currently), 2G Release 5, 5G beta OS releases, 10G home folder. But I'm not quite sure 10G will be enough for my home folder, or if the 5G beta volume is too small. grmbl.[13:28:07] <tic> 10G should be enough, though.[13:28:51] <tic> okay, time to leave.. ciao.[13:33:36] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[13:35:22] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[13:35:40] <agentmumu> 2:35:40 <agentmumu> 2[13:37:13] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[13:47:22] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[13:48:56] *** xeD has joined #haiku[13:50:50] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[14:05:20] *** fyysik has quit IRC[14:06:25] *** stippi has quit IRC[14:07:38] *** Fanskap has joined #haiku[14:08:25] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[14:09:01] *** Fanskap is now known as Fanskapet[14:13:32] *** Mandaryne is now known as PulkoMandy[14:17:19] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[14:21:07] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[14:22:38] *** xeD has quit IRC[14:22:58] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[14:23:57] *** mahlzeit has joined #haiku[14:23:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mahlzeit[14:24:07] *** tqh has quit IRC[14:24:08] *** tqh2 is now known as tqh[14:26:18] *** Euver has joined #haiku[14:26:29] *** Fanskap has joined #haiku[14:27:08] *** Fanskap has quit IRC[14:29:45] *** petterhj has quit IRC[14:29:45] *** ConneX is now known as petterhj[14:30:45] *** Fanskap has joined #haiku[14:37:14] *** WinUninstall has joined #haiku[14:43:52] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[14:43:53] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[14:45:08] *** illissius has quit IRC[14:46:23] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[14:53:45] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[14:53:46] *** tqh has quit IRC[14:53:47] *** tqh2 is now known as tqh[14:54:11] *** WinUninstall has quit IRC[15:16:29] *** Leo42 has quit IRC[15:16:29] *** Leo45 has quit IRC[15:16:43] *** Leo44 has quit IRC[15:18:43] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[15:23:11] *** Euver has quit IRC[15:24:15] *** Euver has joined #haiku[15:26:02] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[15:37:00] *** FastJack_ has joined #haiku[15:38:56] *** FastJack has quit IRC[15:42:48] *** FastJack_ has quit IRC[15:42:57] *** FastJack has joined #haiku[15:43:02] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[15:46:58] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[16:06:08] *** mmadia has quit IRC[16:33:30] <CIA-6> stippi * r13695 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/input/MouseSettings.cpp: make sure the mouse settings are initialized with default values[16:34:55] *** stippi has joined #haiku[16:36:15] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[16:49:15] *** stippi has quit IRC[16:58:30] *** FastJack has quit IRC[16:59:51] *** Leo42 has joined #haiku[17:01:56] * Leo42 is away: I'm busy[17:12:07] *** tqh has quit IRC[17:14:34] *** BetaMax has joined #haiku[17:14:37] *** stippi has joined #haiku[17:14:45] *** DaaT has quit IRC[17:15:01] <stippi> does anyone here know where I find the source for the snooze() function?[17:15:23] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[17:16:41] <@Dr_Evil> stippi it's something like acquire_sem_etc with timeout[17:17:15] *** fyysik has quit IRC[17:17:53] <stippi> Dr_Evil: While playing in Haiku, I got thrown into the gdb (cool that this works!!) twice now, from totally different locations, and the bt said snooze() was the last thing it tried.[17:18:09] <stippi> Dr_Evil: So I wanted to see what exactly could cause a crash there.[17:18:30] <@Dr_Evil> ahh ok, probably in libroot[17:18:34] <stippi> Doesn't mean that snooze() is faulty, but I wanted to have a look.[17:18:37] <stippi> Dr_Evil: Yes, but where?[17:18:42] <@Dr_Evil> os[17:18:43] <stippi> I'm trying grep now[17:18:45] <@Dr_Evil> not posix[17:20:07] <@Dr_Evil> stippi http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/haiku/haiku/trunk/src/system/libroot/os/thread.c?view=markup[17:20:31] <stippi> thanks you were faster than my grep...[17:20:46] <@Dr_Evil> shouldn't crash, except when stack is b0rked[17:21:21] <stippi> looks like it[17:21:47] <stippi> I've also seen it crash in BRegion::operator=()[17:22:24] <stippi> which could for example happen if you do BRegion region = *pointerToAnotherRegion, where that is NULL.[17:22:30] *** FastJack has joined #haiku[17:23:01] <stippi> the one time it crashed in snooze was from the ide driver, though, not app_server[17:23:29] <stippi> I'm hoping Ingo will work out better stack crawls soon.[17:23:29] <@Dr_Evil> kernel crash? interesting[17:23:36] <stippi> Dr_Evil: no, userland[17:23:47] <stippi> sorry[17:23:56] <stippi> the ide driver was a kernel crash I suppose.[17:24:09] <stippi> But I didn't get into KDL, but gdb right a way.[17:24:24] <@Dr_Evil> strange[17:24:27] *** Fanskap has quit IRC[17:24:35] <stippi> I think I had Tracker running...[17:24:46] <@Dr_Evil> well, i need to leave, do you still need to download anything?[17:25:04] <stippi> Dr_Evil: I should get #4 yet for the complete set[17:25:06] <stippi> but later[17:25:19] <stippi> thanks[17:25:20] <@Dr_Evil> I can leave this on if you want[17:25:34] <stippi> yeah, but I will download tonight I guess[17:25:39] <stippi> need to reboot a lot now[17:25:53] <@Dr_Evil> ok, will be back in a few hours[17:25:58] <stippi> sure, thanks[17:28:35] *** Dr_Evil has quit IRC[17:31:26] *** petterhj has quit IRC[17:33:21] *** valexey has joined #haiku[17:34:25] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[17:35:29] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[17:40:03] *** stippi has quit IRC[17:40:42] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[17:44:59] *** aGNUstic has joined #haiku[17:52:13] *** mahlzeit has quit IRC[17:55:22] *** nPHYN1T3 has joined #haiku[17:57:03] *** stippi has joined #haiku[17:58:08] *** Euver has quit IRC[18:00:19] *** aGNUstic has quit IRC[18:02:48] *** aGNUstic has joined #haiku[18:07:59] *** lantis has joined #haiku[18:27:32] *** aGNUstic has quit IRC[18:37:43] *** bonefish has joined #haiku[18:37:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o bonefish[18:37:48] <@bonefish> Yo![18:38:39] <lantis> hi[18:41:58] *** nPHYN1T3 has quit IRC[18:42:27] *** petterhj- has joined #haiku[18:57:56] *** connex has joined #haiku[19:03:46] *** petterhj has quit IRC[19:07:12] *** petterhj- has quit IRC[19:17:12] *** connex is now known as petterhj[19:21:57] *** TLF has joined #haiku[19:22:35] *** petterhj has quit IRC[19:23:11] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[19:24:44] *** aGNUstic has joined #haiku[19:27:23] *** Karina`` has quit IRC[19:42:59] *** aGNUstic has quit IRC[19:54:25] *** valexey has quit IRC[19:55:54] *** aGNUstic has joined #haiku[19:59:40] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[20:02:48] *** mmadia has quit IRC[20:04:16] *** tqh has joined #haiku[20:15:08] *** lantis has quit IRC[20:26:27] *** aGNUstic has left #haiku[20:37:51] * Leo42 is back (gone 03:35:55)[20:38:13] * Leo42 is away: I'm busy[20:58:23] *** the_faulkenator has quit IRC[21:03:18] *** Koki has joined #haiku[21:07:37] * Leo42 is back (gone 00:29:41)[21:17:34] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku[21:18:45] <Dr_Evil> re[21:18:48] <Dr_Evil> hi bonefish[21:18:55] <Dr_Evil> hi stippi[21:18:56] <@bonefish> Dr_Evil: Hi![21:19:53] *** bonefish sets mode: +o Dr_Evil[21:20:53] <@Dr_Evil> so whats going on with you two?[21:21:11] *** stippi2000 has joined #haiku[21:21:47] *** Dr_Evil sets mode: +o stippi2000[21:21:49] *** stippi has quit IRC[21:21:50] *** stippi2000 is now known as stippi[21:24:44] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[21:29:16] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[21:29:24] *** fyysik has quit IRC[21:31:26] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[21:35:48] *** NathanW has joined #haiku[21:40:40] *** petterhj has quit IRC[21:42:50] *** bonefish has quit IRC[21:52:20] *** __nitro__ has joined #haiku[21:55:41] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[21:59:26] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[22:03:43] *** NathanW has quit IRC[22:07:23] *** __nitro__ has quit IRC[22:22:20] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[22:31:08] *** bonefish has joined #haiku[22:31:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o bonefish[22:40:12] *** valexey has joined #haiku[22:43:40] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[22:43:52] *** MikeW has quit IRC[22:49:15] *** stippi has quit IRC[22:51:04] *** stippi has joined #haiku[22:51:09] *** DaaT has quit IRC[22:55:53] *** bonefish sets mode: +o stippi[22:59:38] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[23:01:54] *** mmadia has quit IRC[23:04:33] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13696 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/debug/user_debugger.cpp:[23:04:34] <CIA-6> The debug nub port of a debugged team is owned by the debugger. Hence we[23:04:34] <CIA-6> need to transfer the ownership, when handing over the team to another[23:04:34] <CIA-6> debugger.[23:05:12] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[23:06:00] *** TheGreatDane has quit IRC[23:06:14] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[23:06:17] *** TheGreatDane has joined #haiku[23:07:28] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13697 /haiku/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs):[23:07:29] <CIA-6> The runtime loader now creates a debug area through which other teams can[23:07:29] <CIA-6> access a team's internal loader data.[23:07:59] *** mmadia has quit IRC[23:09:16] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[23:12:35] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:12:43] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13698 /haiku/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs):[23:12:43] <CIA-6> Added support for looking up symbols of other team to libdebug. 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