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[00:00:27] <@bonefish> phoudoin: Oh, sorry. #obos-admin...
[00:01:05] * Methe won't have the pleasure to reda :((
[00:01:25] <@bonefish> phoudoin: Regarding the build system, yes. I want to start working on it.
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[01:15:12] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13640 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/registrar/Registrar.cpp: Uninitialized member variable. The cause for the shutdown process sometimes not to start at all.
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[02:58:29] <DaaT> thx
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[03:18:35] <anarchos> is there planned support for multiple monitors in R1 or is that a R2 feature?
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[03:43:59] <mmadia> anarchos multiple monitor support depends on the driver for the card and should be independant of Haiku's status.
[03:51:38] <anarchos> ah, hmm.
[03:52:02] <anarchos> what about multiple monitors accross multiple (different) video cards? that's gotta be haiku's job to make that work, no?
[03:57:29] * mmadia shrugs. probably.
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[04:35:53] <SiCuTDeUx> iCuTDeUx> i would be nice!
[04:36:02] <SiCuTDeUx> 2 03:36:02 <SiCuTDeUx> 2 video cards 2 monitos
[04:36:12] <SiCuTDeUx> 2 03:36:12 <SiCuTDeUx> 2 complete diferents workspaces
[04:36:15] <geist> you would be nice
[04:36:30] <SiCuTDeUx> jejeje sorry
[04:36:32] <SiCuTDeUx> it
[04:36:37] <SiCuTDeUx> monitors
[04:36:57] <SiCuTDeUx> iCuTDeUx> i hate laptops keyboards
[04:37:22] <SiCuTDeUx> to small... my fingers to big
[04:38:44] <sl44d> It seems wrong deleting 10,000 emails from an IMAP server. Kind of defies the point of IMAP :/
[04:38:57] <SiCuTDeUx> yeah
[04:39:19] <SiCuTDeUx> but that 10.000 emails have attachments???
[04:39:25] <sl44d> Nop.
[04:39:27] <sl44d> e.
[04:39:35] <SiCuTDeUx> oh
[04:39:47] <SiCuTDeUx> no point then
[04:40:15] <SiCuTDeUx> zipit sl44d
[04:40:22] <SiCuTDeUx> dont delete archive!!!
[04:40:33] <sl44d> Yeah, I am.
[04:40:42] <SiCuTDeUx> ok
[04:40:47] <SiCuTDeUx> bed time
[04:40:54] <sl44d> Night.
[04:40:55] <SiCuTDeUx> bye
[04:42:18] * SiCuTDeUx is away: No estoy! - Not Here!
[04:52:38] <geist> NO ESTOY
[05:03:40] <sl44d> No toy!
[05:03:59] <geist> Po Soy
[05:04:13] <sl44d> Po Soy?
[05:04:30] <geist> Un Gloy
[05:04:36] <sl44d> Sure, why not?
[05:04:39] <geist> Mo Foy
[05:04:47] <sl44d> I should purchase some bread and milk.
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[05:50:26] <slaad> http://www.iscomputeron.com/files/images/Articles/amsterdam/PICT0949-s.jpg <-- Haha
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[06:10:13] <miqlas> Re!
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[06:40:22] <waveshaper> what things needs to be done with the media kit? since its so far behind according to the status
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[07:06:26] <[Beta]> waveshaper: ignore the status on the website, its slightly misleading.
[07:14:28] <waveshaper> ah k
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[07:59:24] <@mmu_man> Dr_Evil: Re: [Ffmpeg-devel] [Patch] DVB Subtitle decoder
[07:59:30] <@mmu_man> :)
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[08:23:44] <[Beta]> nice mmu_man
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[09:29:18] <Lt_Henry> mmm
[09:29:46] <Lt_Henry> under /dev/bus/usb, should appear at least 0,1 and unload devices , right?
[09:30:02] <Lt_Henry> "0" "1" "unload"
[09:30:54] <anarchos> does tab sliding work in the bootable demo image?
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[11:08:12] <CIA-6> korli * r13641 /haiku/trunk/data/etc/fonts/ttfonts/ (Konatu.ttf KonatuTT.ttf): (log message trimmed)
[11:08:12] <CIA-6> added Konatu font (japanese). Thanks to michiya.
[11:08:12] <CIA-6> To: HAIKU Project (www.haiku-os.org)
[11:08:12] <CIA-6> Subject: Authorization to use Konatsu font in HAIKU operating system
[11:08:12] <CIA-6> IA-6> I hereby authorize the HAIKU Project the use of the Konatu font
[11:08:13] <CIA-6> (www.masuseki.com/be/konatu.html) under the MIT license.
[11:08:15] <CIA-6> MASUDA michiya
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[11:17:56] <CIA-6> korli * r13642 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/abouthaiku/AboutHaiku.cpp: added Konatu font copyright
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[12:32:23] <Lt_Henry> my usb pendrive works on beos !
[12:32:24] <Lt_Henry> :D
[12:32:40] <Lt_Henry> and I didn't know since today
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[14:10:01] <Dr3w> *sigh*
[14:10:37] <[Beta]> sup Dr3w?
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[14:15:28] <Dr3w> nothing :)
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[14:36:17] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13643 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/registrar/ (ShutdownProcess.cpp TRoster.cpp TRoster.h):
[14:36:17] <CIA-6> * Now we have a hardcoded list of apps which shall not be terminated on
[14:36:17] <CIA-6> shutdown (input, app, debug server, and registrar).
[14:36:17] <CIA-6> * Fixed crashing bug, if the shutdown was aborted before the window was
[14:36:17] <CIA-6> created.
[14:36:17] <CIA-6> * The text of the confirmation alert depends on whether we reboot or
[14:36:20] <CIA-6> shut down.
[14:40:41] <@mmu_man> hmm
[14:41:08] <@mmu_man> do we stil use glibc or the bsd libc ? I recall some discussions about that but I don't know at all what's in there now
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[15:12:59] <@Korli> mmu_man I think we use glibc
[15:14:24] <@mmu_man> seems so
[15:14:40] <@mmu_man> src/system/libroot/glibc
[15:15:03] <@Korli> a part of it actually
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[15:25:07] <Mariux> isnt the plan for everything to be under MIT?
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[15:28:38] <@Korli> Mariux no
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[15:40:18] <Dr3w> even Be, Inc. used GPL.
[15:41:49] <[Beta]> not enough people write with MIT in mind :/
[15:43:10] <valexey> I prefer MIT.
[15:43:20] <[Beta]> me too
[15:43:22] <valexey> I write under MIT license
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[15:50:09] <miqlas> re
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[16:02:26] <@Korli> hmm BMessage isn't finished ...
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[16:16:06] <Dr3w> Korli: I double dare you to finish it ;-)
[16:16:46] <@Korli> Dr3w I just had a look at headers/private/app/MessageField.h and I'm now blind
[16:16:54] <Dr3w> lol
[16:17:30] <Dr3w> I should be getting all the preferences bugs assigned to me from last night onwards, I am fearing the onslaght already :)
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[17:23:39] <CIA-6> darkwyrm * r13644 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/cdplayer/ (9 files):
[17:23:40] <CIA-6> Removed some commented-out test code from CDButton
[17:23:40] <CIA-6> Time display is updated when player is stopped
[17:23:40] <CIA-6> Turning off shuffle really takes it out of shuffle mode
[17:23:40] <CIA-6> Can change tracks while the CD player is not playing
[17:23:40] <CIA-6> Improved responsiveness of screen updates when changing tracks
[17:23:42] <CIA-6> Total disc time calculation is fixed
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[18:09:20] <Karina``> ;)
[18:10:22] <DaaT> Karina``!
[18:10:31] <Karina``> heya DaaT
[18:10:36] <Karina``> long time no see
[18:10:55] <DaaT> that's what you get for hiding down under
[18:11:03] <Karina``> yeah it happens
[18:11:21] <Karina``> plus I've been naughty and not chatting much in here
[18:11:32] <DaaT> good and bad things in the phrase...
[18:11:40] <Karina``> lol
[18:12:19] <Karina``> new gf, she's asleep in the bed behind me, hence the naughty
[18:12:32] <DaaT> ah that's cool
[18:12:41] * DaaT taps the table waiting for pics...
[18:13:21] <Karina``> lol
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[18:13:39] <Karina``> have to buy a camera one day, other things on my priority list first
[18:13:44] <DaaT> *nod*
[18:13:52] <DaaT> it's not an essential item :)
[18:14:59] <Karina``> yep, I'm not really into photos, I like my electronic gadgets more, a new mac and a hf reciever are next on my list
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[18:15:25] <DaaT> hurry before real macs go away!
[18:15:30] <Karina``> lol
[18:15:45] <sys2> you call yourself karina and you have a gf? ... lesbian? :>
[18:15:55] <Karina``> something like that
[18:16:02] <sys2> SWEEET!!!
[18:16:03] <sys2> :>>>
[18:16:26] <sys2> even lesbians can get gfs ... but not me :P
[18:16:53] <Karina``> x86, ppc... much of a muchness, bit of a shame they'll be intel processors, but maybe inel has something cool coming up
[18:17:13] <DaaT> Karina``, Intel has nothing cool... damn watt eaters
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[18:18:01] <Karina``> current thoughts are that they'll be using pentium-m in the mini and in the notebooks, so that'll be alright
[18:18:10] <clee> indeed
[18:19:22] <Karina``> of course I'd prefer an athlon64, but not to worry, I'll get a ppc mac if I can, because there wont be a huge number of intel apps for a while
[18:19:42] <DaaT> not even the mactel for a while
[18:20:04] <Karina``> early next year
[18:20:21] <DaaT> something to be seen
[18:20:22] <DaaT> :)
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[18:21:38] <Karina``> the mini will be due for an update then, doubt they'll do another ppc one
[18:21:58] * DaaT looks to the mini by his side
[18:22:07] <clee> the interesting things will come when the dual-core 64-bit Pentium-M-based cores come out
[18:22:33] <clee> but they're not due out for a while, which explains why Apple's going bottom-up this time
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[18:22:54] <Karina``> Apple will survive
[18:23:13] <clee> when I say 'bottom up' I mean "from the bottom of the product line on up"
[18:23:18] <clee> not "OMG APPLE IS DYING"
[18:23:42] <Karina``> aaah yup
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[18:26:10] <ChrisK077> The question is where Apple's switch to x86 will leave Haiku's PPC port - would it really still be worth it?
[18:26:38] <DaaT> don't think so
[18:26:58] <Karina``> I don't see why not, there's still a hell of a lot of ppc hardware out in the real world
[18:27:32] <DaaT> true that
[18:28:01] <Karina``> and people hold onto macs a lot longer than x86 systems
[18:28:08] <DaaT> definitely
[18:28:16] <DaaT> ok, so I take it back :P
[18:28:36] <ChrisK077> And hold on to MacOS even more ;-)
[18:28:56] <Karina``> true
[18:30:17] <[Beta]> mmm, cheap ppc laptops for haiku..
[18:30:21] <Karina``> I love OS X, but I do think that Haiku will be a worthy alternative eventually
[18:32:48] <DaaT> OS X is nice, but not that impressive, from what I've seen this week here with this mini
[18:33:22] <CIA-6> axeld * r13645 /haiku/trunk/src/system/kernel/fs/vfs.cpp:
[18:33:22] <CIA-6> file_create() now also supports FD relative path specifications.
[18:33:22] <CIA-6> This was the cause for some apps to put their settings files to the current
[18:33:24] <CIA-6> directory, and also that Tracker did not find some icons (from the icons
[18:33:26] <CIA-6> it installed in the MIME database).
[18:34:35] <Karina``> DaaT: depends on what you want, I feel more comfortable in OS X than anywhere else
[18:34:50] <DaaT> yes of course, it's up the user's needs
[18:35:59] <Karina``> basically all I want is *nix with a good desktop
[18:36:13] <adamk> FreeBSD + xfce4 :-)
[18:36:41] <DaaT> Karina``, iTunes ever kills your system?
[18:36:42] <Karina``> finder is a bit crappy for file management, but otherwise I'm happy
[18:37:03] <DaaT> Expose is cool, definitely
[18:37:13] <Karina``> DaaT: never had system problems until latest security update on Tiger
[18:37:47] <Karina``> I'm going back to Panther when I get my act together
[18:37:59] <DaaT> this system here, for quite a few times this week, keeps choking when playing audio CDs
[18:38:10] <Karina``> 10.4 still needs time to mature in my opinion
[18:39:36] <Karina``> audio cds and itunes work fine, I have a couple weird issues, been getting kernel dumps since latest security update about once a day
[18:39:43] <DaaT> ouch...
[18:40:29] <DaaT> there was a security update today, got it?
[18:40:38] <Karina``> system was solid on Panther, had seen only one kernel dump before this
[18:41:03] <Karina``> no I haven't, will grab now
[18:41:46] <DaaT> let's see if it makes a diff
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[18:43:00] <Karina``> I'm p to date with 10.4 according to software update
[18:43:04] <Karina``> p = up
[18:43:19] <DaaT> mmmmmmm
[18:44:02] <DaaT> my mistaken then
[18:44:10] <Karina``> nver had any issues with Panther, so I'm going back, just need to do about 15gig worth of backups first
[18:44:10] * DaaT slaps his informant
[18:44:45] <DaaT> any other partitions for the backup? or 4 DVDs? :)
[18:45:04] <Karina``> other partitions are nearly full, so will burn to dvd's
[18:45:14] <DaaT> *snooze*
[18:45:15] <DaaT> :)
[18:45:33] <Karina``> will have to get toast from somewhere
[18:45:41] * DaaT grabs the butter
[18:45:48] <Karina``> hehehe
[18:46:09] <Karina``> my burner is not officially supported
[18:46:20] <DaaT> that's nice
[18:47:26] <Karina``> still works after patchburn, but I trust toast more than burning in finder
[18:47:35] <DaaT> can't blame you there
[18:47:50] <DaaT> I prefer a good burning app to integrated OS burning
[18:47:55] <Karina``> same
[18:48:44] <Karina``> it's my pc's burner normally, but put it in a firewire case, so I can switch between the pc and mac
[18:49:18] <DaaT> oh cool
[18:50:20] <DaaT> I _really_ like this rss feed screensaver
[18:50:34] <DaaT> though I don't like that you can't scroll through all of your feeds unless you do some scripting
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[19:41:32] <CIA-6> mmlr * r13646 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (CursorManager.cpp CursorManager.h DebugInfoManager.h): Just some style cleanups again. Sorry I couldn't resist, won't happen again ;-).
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[19:49:44] <CIA-6> mmlr * r13647 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Removed (unimplemented) BMessageBody::Unflatten() as Unflattening happens directly at the BMessage level.
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[20:01:42] <scanty> greetings
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[20:51:42] <CIA-6> darkwyrm * r13648 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/cdplayer/ (6 files): Added menu selector like in R5's player.
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[21:47:31] <CIA-6> darkwyrm * r13649 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/cdplayer/ (6 files): Implemented Fast Forward and Rewind
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[21:55:20] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13650 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/ (4 files in 2 dirs): VIA cursor works (almost) perfectly now, added support for vertical virtual workspaces, so setting framebuffer startadress now (expl. pixelpanning yet).
[21:56:00] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13651 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/graphics/via/macros.h: VIA cursor works (almost) perfectly now, added support for vertical virtual workspaces, so setting framebuffer startadress now (expl. pixelpanning yet).
[22:01:11] <PulkoMandy> +++
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[22:03:19] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13652 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/via.settings: activated hardware cursor in via.settings file.
[22:03:38] <sys2> rudolf the graphic driver writer :>
[22:03:45] * sys2 thinks rudolf likes what he does :P
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[22:45:56] <McCall> Hello folkski's.
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[22:47:13] <evdubs> hi
[22:47:19] <Methe> hi
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[22:52:46] <@mahlzeit> hey
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[22:59:46] <NathanW> wow
[22:59:58] <NathanW> I just got an e-mail about my bcm440x driver
[23:00:23] <NathanW> That was a guy trying to get Windows media player to play through his laptop's SVideo port
[23:01:15] <agentmumu> with the bcm440x driver for beos?
[23:01:20] <@mahlzeit> and he wrote to tell you that it worked? :-)
[23:01:35] <NathanW> He said he couldn't figure out how to set it up :P
[23:01:50] <NathanW> The best part was (he has an i855)
[23:02:17] <NathanW> That he said the "NVidea driver" didn't work either
[23:03:19] <@Korli> amazing
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[23:03:50] <agentmumu> maybe it works if he connects the vga cable with the keyboard plug
[23:04:03] <NathanW> :)
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[23:44:01] <McCall> Kung Fu Hustle rules.
[23:44:59] <@mmu_man> ?
[23:45:36] <McCall> Its a film.
[23:45:46] <McCall> I don't know how to describe it really.
[23:46:32] <McCall> Its like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon crossed with the Road Runner cartoons with special effects that beat The Matrix.
[23:46:46] <McCall> Its really amazing.
[23:47:18] <@mmu_man> imdb ?
[23:48:02] <McCall> Listed as Gong Fu
[23:48:03] <McCall> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373074/
[23:49:01] <McCall> Its really funny, its like normal middle age chubby house wives have super powers like Neo in the Matrix.
[23:52:40] <MikeW> does it have any plot?
[23:52:55] <MikeW> rather than sit there and watch pointless special effects
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[23:53:52] <McCall> Yes, its about a guy who tries to join a gang by picking on the little people
[23:53:54] <motoyama> old movie
[23:54:07] <McCall> nearly gets in the gang but realises that he can be good.
[23:54:24] <McCall> motoyama: I saw it last night for the first time. I love chinese films.
[23:54:45] <motoyama> ah
[23:55:09] <motoyama> yes this movie is good (comedy)
[23:55:48] <McCall> I am going to get Shaolin Soccer too.
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[23:56:01] <DaaT> funny flick shaolin soccer
[23:56:09] <DaaT> haven't seen Hustle yet
[23:56:39] <McCall> recommend it 100%.
[23:58:38] <DaaT> :)
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