July 10, 2005 
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July 10, 2005 [00:29:41] *** atomozero has quit IRC[00:31:27] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[00:35:17] *** Zaranthos_1 has joined #haiku[00:37:44] *** Zaranthos_1 has quit IRC[00:38:02] *** Zaranthos has quit IRC[00:38:30] *** Zaranthos has joined #haiku[00:40:14] *** Mazon is now known as mazon[00:48:25] *** Bryan_w has joined #haiku[00:50:49] *** fyysik has quit IRC[00:51:11] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[00:57:23] *** anarchos has quit IRC[01:05:11] <@Dr_Evil_> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4668313.stm[01:08:10] *** NathanW has joined #haiku[01:08:15] <McCall> yeah, there was a news flash earlier.[01:20:43] *** stippi has quit IRC[01:22:20] *** Dr_Evil_ has quit IRC[01:27:34] *** Sg_Henry has joined #haiku[01:27:42] <Sg_Henry> hi[01:27:54] <Sg_Henry> what a nice presentation gave Axel today[01:27:55] <Sg_Henry> :D[01:30:34] <McCall> :)[01:30:45] <McCall> did anyone manage to record it?[01:31:00] <petterhj> what presentation?[01:31:26] <Sg_Henry> it was recorded, in analogic media :([01:31:59] <MikeW> as in your brain?[01:32:15] <agentmumu> hehe[01:32:22] <Sg_Henry> my brain is fuzzy :D[01:32:57] <Sg_Henry> he did not reveladed anything[01:33:09] <Sg_Henry> but enjoyed with that open tracker[01:33:11] <Sg_Henry> :D[01:36:56] <MikeW> reveldated?[01:37:47] <Sg_Henry> lol[01:37:56] <Sg_Henry> waht's going on with my fingers[01:38:33] <Sg_Henry> reveal[01:40:26] <mmadia> agentmumu http://beos.petterhj.net/mockups/haiku.deskbar.candidate.7.mmadia.png and #1-6 is at http://bryan.varnernet.com/files/[01:45:21] <BetaMax> 1-6 is like traffic lights, i like 7 ;)[01:45:43] <agentmumu> mmadia: I like #2 and #7 but I prefer 7[01:45:48] <BetaMax> were is the blue leaf? i like this one too[01:46:19] <agentmumu> mmadia: send it to the openbeos list[01:46:44] <mmadia> ia> i didn't do the leaf, so i dunno :) the squares are from some backgrounds i saw a while ago, i like to think of them as abstractions of the leaves.[01:46:46] <petterhj> mmadia, if you do, it would be nice if you included mine as well - it may be that someone likes those as well[01:47:24] <mmadia> hrmm... what about i make a thread at haiku-os.org/forums and bang an email out on the obos list?[01:48:53] <agentmumu> mmadia: I don't think the people in charge really read the haiku forums[01:49:08] <agentmumu> but I'm not sure[01:49:09] <mmadia> that's what the email's for :-)[01:49:22] <agentmumu> ok :)[01:50:04] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[01:50:57] <mmadia> hiya fyysik[01:53:43] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[01:56:05] <MikeW> the forums are too graphical IMO[01:56:39] <MikeW> I have to click each "section" to get it to display the subforums, and then click the forum. Not a quick and easy overview listing all the forums in one sweep[01:57:16] <mmadia> true, but i dont like sending roughly 10 or so images, each 3k to a mailing list. i remember the days of dial-up oh too well.[02:00:44] *** TLF has quit IRC[02:03:35] *** Sg_Henry has quit IRC[02:11:29] *** oco has quit IRC[02:24:38] *** lizdeika has quit IRC[02:24:55] *** BetaMax has quit IRC[02:26:13] *** Betabel has joined #haiku[02:58:09] *** fyysik has quit IRC[02:58:52] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:00:04] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[03:00:04] *** fyysik has quit IRC[03:00:23] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[03:10:01] *** JosephSpiros has quit IRC[03:10:37] *** brennanOS has quit IRC[03:42:38] *** MikeW has quit IRC[04:03:46] *** NathanW has quit IRC[04:28:55] <McCall> geist: where is the toolchain dir in newOS?[04:29:32] <McCall> ah ok found it.[04:43:15] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[05:09:25] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[05:15:52] *** Betabel has quit IRC[05:26:22] *** scanty has quit IRC[05:28:03] *** anarchos has joined #haiku[05:30:05] * SiCuTDeUx is away: No estoy![05:32:29] *** SiCuTDeUx has quit IRC[05:37:18] *** mmadia has quit IRC[05:40:25] *** slaad has joined #haiku[05:44:02] *** dabeej has quit IRC[06:20:42] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[06:21:21] *** dabeej has quit IRC[06:21:27] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[06:21:27] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[06:22:41] *** dabeej has quit IRC[06:22:48] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[06:26:44] *** dabeej has quit IRC[06:26:50] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[06:28:18] *** dabeej has quit IRC[06:28:25] *** dabeej has joined #haiku[06:38:42] *** waveshaper has joined #haiku[07:25:57] *** guildencrantz has joined #haiku[07:30:08] *** araujo has joined #haiku[07:31:46] *** slaad has quit IRC[07:45:23] *** guildencrantz has quit IRC[07:45:24] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[07:47:47] *** araujo has left #haiku[07:50:40] *** jcome has joined #haiku[07:51:43] *** thies_ has joined #haiku[07:52:37] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[07:55:38] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[08:02:19] *** quittt has joined #haiku[08:09:09] *** thies has quit IRC[08:18:25] *** petterhj has quit IRC[08:52:40] *** filip has joined #haiku[09:00:34] *** bs0 has quit IRC[09:00:34] *** filip is now known as bs0[09:02:46] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[09:15:42] *** jcome has quit IRC[09:17:38] *** quittt has quit IRC[09:20:58] *** quittt has joined #haiku[09:28:44] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[09:33:27] <quittt> anybody here has Jabber for BeOS full? it is not avaible to buy anymore[09:44:33] <kr1stof> quittt Give me your mailadress. I'll send it to you[09:52:18] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[09:53:19] <quittt> kr1stof pedrohqb at gmail dot com[09:53:22] <quittt> but can you send by IRC?[09:53:36] <kr1stof> ok[09:53:46] <kr1stof> tof> to slow[09:53:53] <kr1stof> mail is better[09:53:56] <quittt> send by email[09:53:59] <quittt> ok[09:56:14] <quittt> done?[09:56:22] <kr1stof> just a sec[09:59:24] <kr1stof> out![10:00:15] <quittt> sent?[10:01:10] <kr1stof> Yes[10:04:08] <quittt> got it[10:04:10] <quittt> thanks!![10:06:13] <kr1stof> np[10:06:41] <quittt> kr1stof do you know a good jabber server?[10:07:51] <kr1stof> hm there are thousands[10:08:10] <kr1stof> my fav is centova.net[10:09:22] <kr1stof> you can even run this as a webmessenger just with you browser[10:09:56] <kr1stof> all IM protocols are supported (ICQ, MSN,AIM,Yahoo)[10:10:20] <kr1stof> But it works with Jabber for BeOS too[10:10:39] <quittt> what is the server?[10:11:19] <kr1stof> go http://www.centova.net/ and create an account[10:11:35] <kr1stof> add all you other IM IDs there[10:11:55] <kr1stof> then open your jabber for BeOS[10:12:31] <kr1stof> just add your new jabber ID "yourname at centova dot net"[10:13:32] <kr1stof> And via transport protocol you'll get all your other IM protocols[10:15:37] *** JosephSpiros has joined #haiku[10:15:56] *** JosephSpiros has quit IRC[10:20:30] *** quittt has quit IRC[10:25:10] *** Konrad has joined #haiku[10:27:19] *** mazon is now known as Mazon[10:40:21] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[10:43:08] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[10:44:36] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[10:50:48] *** Leo42 has joined #haiku[10:51:49] *** Skaway has joined #haiku[10:58:39] *** Konrad has quit IRC[11:01:48] *** Sil2100 has joined #haiku[11:04:10] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[11:05:24] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[11:12:38] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[11:15:59] *** Skaway has left #haiku[11:20:50] *** bs0 has quit IRC[11:20:50] *** Begasus has quit IRC[11:21:45] *** Dr_Evil has joined #haiku[11:22:42] *** bs0 has joined #haiku[11:23:06] *** JosephSpiros has joined #haiku[11:26:24] *** illissius- has joined #haiku[11:29:43] *** Ghostride has joined #haiku[11:33:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dr_Evil[11:39:44] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[11:39:54] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[11:40:23] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[11:40:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[11:41:12] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[11:55:31] *** ChrisK077 has joined #haiku[12:15:40] *** Mazon has quit IRC[12:24:16] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[12:24:16] *** xeD has joined #haiku[12:28:48] *** LaesQ has joined #haiku[12:28:55] <LaesQ> mmu_man: alive?[12:31:21] <@mmu_man> gtg[12:32:21] <LaesQ> alright?[12:33:07] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[12:33:14] *** anarchos has quit IRC[12:34:22] *** Begasus has quit IRC[12:34:27] <LaesQ> can anyone tell me what header I need for strchr strcat, etc[12:35:36] *** atomozero has quit IRC[12:35:45] *** LaesQ has quit IRC[12:36:30] *** Teknomancer has quit IRC[12:36:34] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[12:44:26] *** illissius- has quit IRC[12:44:29] *** illissius- has joined #haiku[12:46:07] *** Teknomancer has joined #haiku[12:50:16] <Teknomancer> i it better to implement an icon view with each item derived from BView or make the icon view manually draw each item in it's Draw () ?[12:50:21] <Teknomancer> i=is[12:50:21] *** tqh has joined #haiku[12:53:12] <sys2> ohh please dont take those box things .. thats so microsoft[12:53:19] <sys2> for the haiku deksbar[13:05:28] *** Koki has quit IRC[13:07:35] *** crash|_ has joined #haiku[13:10:00] <ChrisK077> Hmm, when trying to build, there seem to be problems with get_rounded_cpu_speed() in file cpu_type.h ATM. 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Pager is on.[15:04:03] * motoyama is away (Auto-away after 10 minutes) @ Fri Jul 08 22:24:00 2005 - Pager is on.[15:07:29] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[15:07:37] *** kr1stof has joined #haiku[15:11:00] *** The_Raven has joined #haiku[15:11:13] *** Konrad has quit IRC[15:12:14] *** Mariux has joined #haiku[15:27:01] *** Konrad has joined #haiku[15:27:01] *** petterhj has joined #haiku[15:36:05] *** MikeW has quit IRC[15:37:55] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[15:39:30] *** The_Raven has quit IRC[15:43:29] *** fyysik has joined #haiku[15:44:00] *** fyysik has quit IRC[15:44:14] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[15:47:01] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[15:49:08] *** atomozer0 has joined #haiku[15:49:37] *** Mandaryne has quit IRC[15:55:26] *** dabeej has quit IRC[15:57:53] *** slaad has quit IRC[15:59:51] *** motoyama has quit IRC[16:00:05] *** atomozero has quit IRC[16:00:37] *** The_Raven has joined #haiku[16:06:41] *** ConneX has joined #haiku[16:17:56] *** illissius_ has quit IRC[16:22:55] *** petterhj has quit IRC[16:24:21] *** ConneX is now known as petterhj[16:26:17] *** lemon has joined #haiku[16:26:55] *** illissius has joined #haiku[16:27:12] *** flag_ is now known as flag[16:28:44] *** mahlzeit has joined #haiku[16:28:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mahlzeit[16:32:27] *** khorben has joined #haiku[16:33:30] <Mariux> does R5 or Zeta run under bochs/vmware?[16:33:38] <Mariux> iux> i want to do some beosprograming again[16:36:35] <petterhj> at least R5 runs under QUEMU (free, guide at www.haiku-os.org) and VirtualPC AFAIK - but i think it runs under vmware as well, maybe bochs[16:37:23] <Mariux> god dag[16:37:30] <petterhj> morgen :)[16:38:19] <Mariux> brukte beos i R5-dagene, nå bruker jeg linux, men med framskrittene til zeta og haiku så vurderer jeg å bruke beos igjen[16:39:22] <petterhj> for min del er det Haiku som gjelder, og det er fantastisk å se hva som har skjedd bare i løpet av de siste 6 månedene[16:39:46] <petterhj> bare se på det her: http://bug-nordic.org/gallery.php?gal=haiku&pic=33 :)[16:40:05] <Mariux> fant den siden i dag[16:40:27] <Mariux> oi, trackervinduer, det var ikke der sist jeg sjekka :)[16:40:29] <Mariux> det går fort[16:40:45] <petterhj> ja, enig[16:40:51] <Mariux> jeg vurderer om jeg skal prøve meg på noen av de uferdige interfacekit-klassene[16:41:56] <petterhj> ja, det hadde nok vært fint[16:53:51] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[16:58:12] <CIA-6> axeld * r13570 /haiku/trunk/src/preferences/virtualmemory/ (15 files): Rewrote VirtualMemory, added some Haiku specific functionality (currently disabled).[16:58:14] <atomozer0> http://www.itbug.org:8080/images/partyzip/party01/[16:58:21] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[16:59:42] <atomozer0> partyZip@ photo haiku workshop[17:05:39] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[17:05:59] *** DaaT has quit IRC[17:06:00] *** khorben has quit IRC[17:07:23] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[17:11:18] <flag> does haiku build under linux now?[17:11:18] <sys2> petterhj, aye ... haiku is comming somewhere :>[17:14:21] <petterhj> sys2, sure do :)[17:17:22] *** khorben has joined #haiku[17:22:44] <McCall> flag: no, there are still some issues I beleve.[17:26:25] <flag> :([17:27:11] *** Leo42 has quit IRC[17:34:13] *** Superfan has joined #haiku[17:36:16] *** The_Raven has quit IRC[17:36:19] *** Leo42 has joined #haiku[17:36:37] *** atomozero has joined #haiku[17:39:22] *** atomozer0 has quit IRC[17:39:23] *** atomozero is now known as atomozer0[17:46:23] <ChrisK077> Is anyone of the Haiku dev team reading ATM?[17:51:57] *** sconnors has joined #haiku[17:52:00] *** sconnors has left #haiku[17:53:48] *** Superfan has quit IRC[17:54:10] *** TLF has quit IRC[17:55:11] *** Leo42 is now known as LeoAFK[17:55:11] * LeoAFK is away: I'm busy[17:56:19] *** mahlzeit has quit IRC[17:57:24] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:10:06] *** lemon has quit IRC[18:15:32] <ChrisK077> Okay, maybe someone will read this later: Momentarily the build fails (for me, at least) at the function that was moved to /header/private/shared/cpu_type.h, get_rounded_cpu_speed(), due to it being included from a C-file (/src/bin/sysinfo.c). Moving all variable declarations to the beginning of the function fixes the problem.[18:16:21] *** Koki has joined #haiku[18:18:23] *** Koki has quit IRC[18:18:50] *** Koki has joined #haiku[18:25:01] <CIA-6> axeld * r13571 /haiku/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):[18:25:01] <CIA-6> Discarded unused variable "at" in get_rounded_cpu_speed().[18:25:01] <CIA-6> Forgot to adapt the limit to switch to "GHz" in AboutHaiku.[18:25:01] <CIA-6> Both bugs were reported by Herve W a.k.a. "V" - whatever[18:25:01] <CIA-6> that means :-)[18:25:43] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[18:28:46] *** TLF has joined #haiku[18:37:42] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:37:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[18:50:11] *** oco has quit IRC[19:08:03] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[19:14:00] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[19:16:07] *** crash|_ has joined #haiku[19:16:25] *** swer has joined #haiku[19:16:39] *** swer has quit IRC[19:16:44] <CIA-6> stippi * r13572 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/app/ (Layer.cpp Layer.h RootLayer.cpp RootLayer.h): renamed the tree parsing/child iteration functions, I think it is much clearer now what they do, more likely to find bugs too[19:20:23] *** LeoAFK is now known as Leo42[19:20:24] * Leo42 is back (gone 01:25:12)[19:20:35] *** Leo42 is now known as Leo44[19:22:35] *** waveshaper has quit IRC[19:24:01] *** mmadia2 has joined #haiku[19:27:21] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13573 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/ (radeon/InitAccelerant.c via/): added via accelerant folder[19:29:42] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13574 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/skeleton/: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:30:12] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[19:30:34] <petterhj> mmadia2, http://haiku-os.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3109#3109[19:31:40] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13575 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/skeleton/: removed it again[19:31:58] <mmadia2> yeah, i saw... sort of hoping that more people would respond and what not.[19:32:31] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13576 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/skeleton/: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:33:15] <petterhj> mmadia2, yea, true.. there seems to be little activity on the forums :\[19:33:51] <mmadia2> petterhj: IMVHO, that feature may be better suited as a Deskbar Preference app, rather than directly coded into deskbar as a skinning feature.[19:34:30] <petterhj> thougth of that as well.. but since every other Deskbar prefs is in Deskbar itself..[19:34:35] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13577 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/skeleton/: removed it again. Hmm. Still don't get it I guess..[19:42:43] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13578 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/acc_std.h: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:43:34] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13579 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/Acceleration.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:43:58] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13580 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/be_driver_proto.h: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:44:13] *** bogomipz has joined #haiku[19:44:16] *** mmadia2 has quit IRC[19:44:17] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13581 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/Cursor.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:44:53] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13582 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/EngineManagement.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:45:25] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13583 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/GetAccelerantHook.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:45:43] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13584 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/GetDeviceInfo.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:46:04] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13585 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/GetModeInfo.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:46:17] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[19:46:33] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13586 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/GetTimingConstraints.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:46:36] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[19:46:54] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13587 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/InitAccelerant.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:47:16] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13588 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/Jamfile: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:47:40] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13589 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/Overlay.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:48:06] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13590 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/ProposeDisplayMode.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:48:27] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13591 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/SetDisplayMode.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:48:53] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13592 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/valid_mode_list: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:49:57] *** NathanW has joined #haiku[19:50:29] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13593 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/: added engine folder. I take it there's a better way to do this though..[19:51:17] <NathanW> heh[19:55:01] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[19:55:29] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13594 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/acc.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:56:02] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13595 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/agp.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:56:19] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13596 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/bes.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:56:37] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13597 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/crtc.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:56:57] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13598 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/crtc2.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:57:12] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13599 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/dac.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:57:21] <Methe> :xx[19:57:32] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13600 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/dac2.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:57:52] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13601 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/general.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:58:04] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13602 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/globals.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:58:15] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13603 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/globals.h: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:58:40] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13604 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/i2c.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:58:53] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13605 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/info.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:59:11] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13606 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/Jamfile: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[19:59:50] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13607 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/proto.h: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:00:03] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13608 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/std.h: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:00:20] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13609 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/support.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:01:04] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13610 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/engine/tvout.c: added via accelerant, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:01:13] <kma> MO-MO-MO-MONSTER COMMIT!!!![20:01:45] <atomozer0> rudolf RULEZZZZZZZZZZZz[20:03:33] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13611 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/: added via kernel driver folder[20:03:45] *** NathanW has quit IRC[20:05:31] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13612 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/driver.c: added via kernel driver, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:06:01] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13613 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/Jamfile: added via kernel driver, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:06:26] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13614 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/README.html: added via kernel driver, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:06:41] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13615 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/UPDATE.html: added via kernel driver, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:07:08] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13616 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/via.settings: added via kernel driver, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:12:57] <@Dr_Evil> is he crazy? thats not a changeset, he's adding every file as a single one[20:13:23] <Methe> yeah[20:13:52] <Methe> he> he will divide the time between 2 commit by 2 lol :DD[20:17:29] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13617 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/graphics/via/: added via private headers folder[20:18:17] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[20:18:45] *** Master199 has joined #haiku[20:21:15] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13618 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/graphics/via/DriverInterface.h: added via private headers, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:22:02] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13619 /haiku/trunk/headers/private/graphics/via/macros.h: added via private headers, a copy of skeleton driver yet.[20:25:09] *** vision has joined #haiku[20:25:18] *** vision is now known as bs0_[20:25:25] *** bs0_ is now known as bs0_ntb[20:28:49] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13620 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/Jamfile: updated jamfile.[20:29:45] *** Master199 has quit IRC[20:30:41] <sys2> rudolfc trying to get his stats up on cia? :P[20:31:26] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13621 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/via/ (Jamfile engine/Jamfile): updated jamfiles.[20:32:34] <@mmu_man> while true; do echo 'one more line' >> afile; svn ci afile; done[20:34:19] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13622 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/accelerants/Jamfile: updated jamfile to include via driver.[20:34:40] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13623 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/Jamfile: updated jamfile to include via driver.[20:38:15] *** sys2 has quit IRC[20:39:30] <CIA-6> rudolfc * r13624 /haiku/trunk/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/via/via.settings: updated via settings file.[20:45:56] <@Dr_Evil> hi mmu_man![20:46:16] *** oco has joined #haiku[20:46:34] <@Dr_Evil> stream id c0, frame header 92 e7 0f 8c, any idea what this is?[20:48:03] <@mmu_man> avi ?[20:48:10] <@mmu_man> oh, mpeg2[20:48:26] <@mmu_man> dvb stuff again ?[20:48:46] <@mmu_man> isn't that supposed to be advertised in the header ?[20:48:58] <@mmu_man> having to guess teh codec is a sign of a very bad format[20:49:03] <@Dr_Evil> yes, some channels started to broadcast this instead of mpeg2 audio[20:49:06] * mmu_man pets NSV :D[20:49:16] <@mmu_man> ah so it's audio ?[20:49:24] <@Dr_Evil> yes[20:50:17] <@Dr_Evil> I think I need to read documentation again[20:50:35] <@mmu_man> hmm someone posted recently on what was allowed in mpeg2 ts[20:50:41] <@mmu_man> on ffmpeg-devel[20:51:02] <@mmu_man> damn bloody fat, can't watch a divx from that[20:51:48] <@Dr_Evil> I turned DVB into a real BMediaAddOn that is loaded by media_addon_server and configureable in Media preferences[20:52:59] <@mmu_man> :)[20:56:01] *** Fanskapet has joined #haiku[21:05:20] *** SiCuTDeUx has joined #haiku[21:06:02] *** atomozer0 has quit IRC[21:06:06] <SiCuTDeUx> hi![21:08:45] <bs0_ntb> hi[21:09:26] <SiCuTDeUx> who here is using Zeta?[21:09:52] *** mahlzeit has joined #haiku[21:09:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mahlzeit[21:18:08] *** TLF has quit IRC[21:18:10] <bs0_ntb> tic do u have CLStat ? on bebits is broken link[21:22:08] <Konrad> bs0_ntb check bezip.de[21:22:41] <SiCuTDeUx> bs0_ntb, take a look in BeShare[21:24:18] *** MikeW has joined #haiku[21:25:04] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[21:32:19] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[21:33:21] *** TLF has joined #haiku[21:40:29] *** ilorvi_ has quit IRC[21:41:16] *** ilorvi_ has joined #haiku[21:43:19] *** WindowsUninstall has joined #haiku[21:46:21] *** tqh has quit IRC[21:48:24] *** ChrisK077 has quit IRC[22:00:25] <bs0_ntb> no clstat on bezip nor on beshar[22:00:25] <bs0_ntb> e[22:01:44] *** Konrad has quit IRC[22:02:20] *** blaumag has joined #haiku[22:05:08] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:06:45] *** WindowsUninstall has quit IRC[22:10:28] *** mahlzeit has quit IRC[22:17:08] <@Dr_Evil> "svn revert", and the work of the past hour is gone...[22:19:35] *** kr1stof has quit IRC[22:20:01] <@geist> oh shit sorry man[22:20:27] <@Dr_Evil> it wasn[22:20:40] <@Dr_Evil> it was no go idea to revert them all :([22:21:17] <@Dr_Evil> ahh well, second implementation will be smarter anyway :)[22:21:39] <Sil2100> ;p[22:23:44] <MikeW> Hey Travis[22:24:03] <MikeW> You signed up to the big mac company yet?[22:24:26] <MikeW> err, apple that is[22:25:44] *** evdubs has quit IRC[22:27:25] <@geist> yup[22:28:03] *** blaumag has left #haiku[22:41:49] *** bs0_ntb has quit IRC[22:42:19] *** adamk has joined #haiku[22:46:26] *** Bryan_w has quit IRC[22:46:52] <agentmumu> 21:46:52 <agentmumu> 2[22:49:16] <@geist> 3[22:49:53] <agentmumu> sry[22:50:04] <@Dr_Evil> 9E99[22:59:39] * MikeW wonders what sort of crazy newos inspired things will make it into darwin[23:00:01] <MikeW> and all the funky new features that will make it into spotlight[23:00:22] <MikeW> btw, is your work going into lepoard, or do we have to wait until later to see the fruits of your labour?[23:07:19] <@geist> leopard being 10.5? it'll go into that[23:07:38] <@geist> i'll probably end up hitting the ground running. they are busy[23:09:37] <MikeW> wow, exciting stuff[23:09:49] <MikeW> I'm still debating whether to get a mac mini[23:10:14] <@geist> I'm using one right now[23:10:17] <MikeW> they win on the coolness factor, but I've got not real use for it[23:10:17] <@geist> it's pretty cute[23:10:29] <MikeW> My dad is in love with the iLamp[23:10:30] <@geist> yeah me either. it's the box I shell from :)[23:10:39] <@geist> but I had an uncontrollable urge to get a mini[23:11:02] <MikeW> but I can't find a place that sells the old ilamps for cheap[23:11:16] <@geist> probably hold their value[23:11:36] <@geist> yeha I'm less of a fan of the new imacs[23:12:43] <MikeW> theres something nice about the big bubble base and the kneck[23:13:08] <MikeW> ebay is crap for buying macs. The sellers generally charge full whack for their 5 year old machine and expect to get it[23:13:20] <@geist> yeah[23:13:37] <@geist> hard core mac folks tend to think they're pretty special[23:13:51] <@geist> the guy upstairs in the apartment is selling is old G4 powermac for some ridiculous amount[23:15:01] <MikeW> It's really come down to it now. I'ge got 900euro in cash, and when I think about it, I could spend 500 of it on a mac mini and get very little performance, or I could build a decent enough machine that far surpasses it[23:15:51] <MikeW> no contest really when I have to choose between them[23:16:19] <MikeW> although _everyone_ I've spoken to couldn't live without macosx (well, apart from 1 person who uses yellowdog)[23:16:37] <@geist> yeah, that's the trick[23:16:46] <@geist> I'm a huge fan of OSX the more and more I use it[23:16:55] <CIA-6> mmlr * r13625 /haiku/trunk/ (13 files in 3 dirs):[23:16:55] <CIA-6> Some cleanup, some removed typos, some unification, some fixes and some added[23:16:55] <CIA-6> todos. Most of it related to client-server communication. Apps that rely on[23:16:55] <CIA-6> BFont stuff should work now (StyledEdit, Fonts, Keymap, Menu, ...). Or should[23:16:55] <CIA-6> not hang/quit at startup at least.[23:16:58] <@geist> I got an imac years ago mostly to hack newos onto[23:17:06] <@geist> but the more and more I used OS X the more i liked it[23:17:13] <@geist> now I have a G5 powermac and everything[23:17:39] <@geist> in an odd parallel to the beos days. I joined beos after they switched to x86, did filesystem stuff[23:17:48] <@geist> now I'm joining apple after x86, doing file system stuff[23:17:53] <@geist> both times working with dbg[23:18:44] *** mmadia has quit IRC[23:18:56] <MikeW> It's your calling :)[23:19:17] <@geist> yeah guess so[23:19:44] <MikeW> I was at a Longhorn developer conference in feb 2004, and some nutter was doing a presentation on WinFS[23:19:51] *** Methe has quit IRC[23:19:59] <MikeW> the longer he went on, the further I went into disbelief[23:21:02] *** Methe has joined #haiku[23:21:13] <MikeW> Having silos several GB on the FS for keeping a duplicate of file data and having fs hooks seems pretty... wasteful with HDD space[23:21:24] <MikeW> one stop for corruption[23:21:39] <@geist> well, that's not such a terrible idea[23:21:45] <@geist> storage space is cheap[23:21:53] <@geist> Sun's ZFS does a lot of that too[23:22:06] <MikeW> Im always out of hdd space[23:22:16] <MikeW> anything that wastes it is a no-go area for me[23:22:42] <@geist> sure, but my guess is it doesn't matter how big your drive is[23:22:51] <@geist> you'll always be out of hard drive space because you have a lot of stuff[23:23:02] <@geist> if you made it twice as big you'd probably still be out of space[23:23:14] <Methe> yeah until human limit[23:23:20] <@geist> exactly[23:23:28] <Methe> which hasnt been reached yet[23:23:37] <Methe> for us[23:23:50] <Methe> as for my Mum 100Mo of data is way too much[23:23:50] <@geist> so from an implementors point of view, that's not a real compelling argument for not doing more sophisticated suff[23:23:51] <Methe> =)[23:24:03] <MikeW> I havn't looked at how any of those desktop search apps work, but why can't the devs do something random and interesting like massive Query Hash Tables like we do in G2[23:24:04] <@geist> since no matter what you do, folks like you will always have something to gripe about :)[23:25:08] <MikeW> heh, I'm just thinking of problems with QHT for FS lookups[23:25:56] <Methe> the> the future is gmailFS[23:25:58] * Methe hides[23:26:02] <Methe> =)[23:26:42] <@geist> when you write the data you mail it to yourself on gmail?[23:27:33] <Methe> what do you mean ?[23:27:44] <@geist> using gmail as a file store[23:27:52] <Methe> yeah u have to send to server anyway[23:28:00] <Methe> though it's transparent of course[23:28:01] <MikeW> geist: surely you heard of the gmailFS app?[23:28:15] <Methe> blocks take shape of mails[23:28:20] <Methe> that are sent and requested[23:28:27] <MikeW> I'd laugh if google ran through their servers and deleted all emails with attachments and named [gmailfs] :)[23:28:30] <Methe> unreadable mails though =)[23:28:30] <@geist> nope. what app is this?[23:36:17] *** adamk has left #haiku[23:37:18] *** TLF has quit IRC[23:41:26] *** Fanskapet has quit IRC[23:42:08] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[23:43:26] <MikeW> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GmailFS[23:44:23] <Sil2100> See you everyone[23:44:26] *** Sil2100 has quit IRC[23:49:08] *** lemon has joined #haiku[23:51:57] *** Leo44 has quit IRC[23:52:38] <CIA-6> mmlr * r13626 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/Font.cpp: Fixed broken count_font_styles(), font menus now really work.[23:53:14] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[23:55:01] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[23:55:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[23:56:13] *** Mazon is now known as mazon