[00:00:06] * Dr_Evil needs to work tomorrow :((
[00:00:23] <@Korli> Dr_Evil unlucky too :)
[00:00:32] <fyysik> and this is real luck - for bughunting. Coz hidden bug is worst bug
[00:01:27] <@Korli> Dr_Evil I found a C++ library for high-fidelity resampling, could be interesting
[00:02:34] <@Dr_Evil> yes, that would be an improvement
[00:02:43] <@Korli> a LGPL one
[00:03:10] <NathanW> stupid Dell
[00:03:27] <NathanW> It keeps resetting the *&#(*$ boot order
[00:03:57] <@Korli> Dr_Evil any idea on how to include a resampler in media kit ?
[00:04:27] <@Dr_Evil> integrating it in mixer would be a idea, or into raw_decoder
[00:04:50] <@Korli> raw_decoder ?
[00:04:53] <@Dr_Evil> or as a media node
[00:05:42] <@Dr_Evil> yes, thats used by BMediaTrack when converting sample formats
[00:05:54] <@Dr_Evil> only in Haiku, not in BeOS
[00:06:09] <@Korli> oh didn't know
[00:07:09] <@Korli> anyway I should test the library before anything else
[00:07:41] <oco> korli : i was finally succesfull with the haiku bootloader : i have choosen a 32 bit mode, but haiku still hang at the bootscreen
[00:07:48] <@Korli> Dr_Evil it could be needed in multiaudio addon too (converting the input)
[00:08:08] <@Korli> oco no serial output ?
[00:08:20] <@Dr_Evil> yes, but perhaps we should implement it as a generic media node
[00:08:30] <@Dr_Evil> well, I need to leave, night
[00:08:32] <oco> korli : no (or maybe not yet)
[00:08:46] <@Korli> night Dr_Evil
[00:09:10] <@Korli> oco maybe enable bluescreen in kernel settings
[00:09:32] <oco> korli : there is a little bug in the bootloader
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[00:09:55] <oco> korli : i think i have enable it, but no syslog found on the disk
[00:10:21] <@Korli> bluescreen isn't a syslog :)
[00:10:54] <oco> korli : to enable syslog, i have to remove # before the line in the kernel config file, isn't it ?
[00:11:22] <@Korli> [00:14] <Korli> oco maybe enable bluescreen in kernel settings
[00:11:31] <oco> sorry but i have done it too
[00:11:35] <@Korli> ah ok
[00:11:51] <@Korli> I think bluescreen doesn't work in early boot
[00:12:19] <@Korli> oco did you build haiku yourself ?
[00:12:34] <oco> yes
[00:12:45] <@Korli> if yes, try to download an online image and dump it to your haiku partition
[00:13:05] <@Korli> to know if your computer is at fault
[00:13:08] <oco> when using esc, the last line is "kernel entry at ....'
[00:14:10] <oco> korli : maybe the way i setup the partition is not good : i made a copy from the haiku image into an existing beos partition
[00:14:14] <@Korli> maybe your partition is misplaced or harddisk isn't primary
[00:14:53] <oco> korli : maybe : there is a lot of partitions on this hard disk...
[00:15:08] <@Korli> oh can't be more than 4 ?
[00:15:55] <oco> beos used to boot on this partition
[00:16:37] <oco> does someone know a good haiku image address ?
[00:18:12] <@Korli> http://www.schmidp.com/blog/
[00:19:20] <oco> right : google has the same answer ;-) i shouldn't ask stupid question before asking google...
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[00:20:45] <@Korli> someday haiku images would be on haiku-os.org :)
[00:20:59] <NathanW> what is haiku-os.org?
[00:21:31] <NathanW> It's ridiculous numbers of hops from here
[00:21:35] <@Korli> our website
[00:21:39] <NathanW> well, I know
[00:21:42] <NathanW> But the server
[00:22:03] <NathanW> I'm just wondering what kinds of things it can do, and how much bandwidth we get
[00:22:34] <oco> or even better, the one compiled on my laptop will be checked good
[00:22:48] <@Korli> NathanW dunno
[00:23:03] <NathanW> hmmm
[00:23:03] <NathanW> ok
[00:24:54] * oco : just understand what is vpc the hard way... have to download again
[00:24:57] <fyysik> let's torrent
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[00:26:41] <NathanW> yeah
[00:27:16] <NathanW> but which?
[00:27:22] <NathanW> I mean, we have daily builds
[00:27:25] <NathanW> by random people
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[00:32:56] <NathanW> If we want to start an official thing
[00:33:09] <NathanW> I have two machines with 100 Mb connections and no bandwidth cap
[00:33:26] <@Korli> NathanW a build factory would be more useful
[00:33:30] <NathanW> yeah
[00:33:31] <NathanW> true
[00:33:53] <NathanW> What happened to the old one?
[00:33:56] <@Korli> I still don't believe we don't have one
[00:34:27] <NathanW> I'd be more than happy to use my machine for it
[00:34:40] <NathanW> If someone has a good method for setting it up
[00:34:58] <NathanW> And I'll have to wait a couple months, of course
[00:35:19] <@Korli> a basic one would be more then useful
[00:36:11] <NathanW> Just ftping the packages and a hd image?
[00:36:16] <NathanW> hmmmm
[00:36:56] <@Korli> hd image, svn and build logs
[00:37:18] <NathanW> By svn, you mean a tarball of the tree?
[00:37:36] <@Korli> no "svn up"
[00:37:51] <NathanW> Oh, a log of it?
[00:37:58] <@Korli> yeah and incremental build
[00:38:18] <NathanW> what do you mean by incremental build?
[00:38:22] <@Korli> I'm thinking I could set it up on a machine
[00:38:31] <NathanW> yeah, that'd be nice
[00:38:34] <NathanW> Do you need hosting?
[00:38:52] <@Korli> maybe images
[00:39:03] <NathanW> since I have no bandwidth cap, as I said
[00:39:07] <@Korli> anyway not very soon
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[00:39:11] <NathanW> ok
[00:39:38] <BryanV> Alright. So I just tried to boot Haiku.
[00:39:49] <BryanV> It gets to the boot screen, then stops cold.
[00:39:58] <@Korli> tried 32bits ?
[00:40:12] <agentmumu> am so ist sicher strahlend blauer himmel :)
[00:40:16] <agentmumu> ups
[00:40:24] <agentmumu> wrong channel
[00:40:37] <BryanV> Of course I suppose it could be that I'm trying to boot off a SCSI disk..
[00:41:27] <@Korli> Bryan_w hmm IDE master primary is default
[00:42:05] <@Korli> BryanV if you have serial debug you can check what happens
[00:42:58] <oco> korli : no success with the dowloaded image. maybe the way i initialize the partition is wrong
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[00:43:21] <@mmu_man> plop
[00:43:28] *** mmu_man sets mode: +o phoudoin
[00:44:33] <@phoudoin> hey... all. :-)
[00:45:20] <@Korli> oco what did you do with it ?
[00:45:24] <@phoudoin> did someone already boot Haiku on a SMP system?
[00:45:25] <@Korli> hey phoudoin
[00:45:36] <@Korli> phoudoin there is a bug report about it
[00:45:43] <NathanW> phoudoin: yeah, it doesn't work
[00:45:52] <NathanW> unless you turn off SMP
[00:46:21] <@phoudoin> thru kernel settings file, right?
[00:46:37] <oco> it was a beos partition with an old beos version. Then i have renamed beos, home and var. Finally i copy haiku's image files to this partition using the tracker
[00:47:44] <BryanV> Korli - I don't have any way to serial debug.
[00:48:02] <BryanV> phoudoin - perhaps that's my problem too.. this is an SMP box with SCSI. ;-p
[00:48:09] <NathanW> hahaha
[00:48:18] <BryanV> NathanW - how do I turn it off?
[00:48:26] <@phoudoin> oh, welcome onboar BryanV! :-\
[00:48:34] <NathanW> BryanV: I had to comment out the SMP portions of the bootloader
[00:48:40] <@phoudoin> onboard, even.
[00:48:42] <NathanW> Or #ifdef them out, rather
[00:48:46] <BryanV> Oh joy
[00:48:52] <NathanW> yeah
[00:48:57] <@Korli> oco I think you should do a "dd"
[00:48:57] <NathanW> Fixing it would be nice
[00:49:13] <NathanW> But I have *no* idea what's going on with the kernel/bootloader
[00:49:20] <@Korli> oco but beware
[00:49:33] <oco> korli but i have to make some backup before destroying this partition...
[00:49:56] <@Korli> oco hmm yeah
[00:50:07] <oco> korli : is it possible to boot haiku from a CD ?
[00:50:12] * BryanV decides to dig into some code he recognizes instead.
[00:50:14] <@Korli> oco no
[00:50:15] <@phoudoin> okay. then, the only non SMP machine I could test Haiku at home is my laptop, on which I forgot to keep a free partition. And overwriting BeOS doesn't sound like a good idea...
[00:50:36] <@phoudoin> We really need a BFS resizing tool :-)
[00:51:06] <BryanV> phoudoin - I sold my only non-smp x86 box.
[00:51:11] <BryanV> So It's smp or nothing for me.
[00:51:26] <scanty> pull a CPU ^_^
[00:51:31] <BryanV> Heck no
[00:51:32] <BryanV> :-p
[00:51:44] <BryanV> I wouldn't dare go back to a -single- 1ghz processor!
[00:51:57] <BryanV> I mean, that's -soo- slow!
[00:52:00] <BryanV> j/k
[00:52:03] <scanty> lol
[00:52:28] <scanty> i have dual 933
[00:52:31] <scanty> in my x86
[00:52:41] <@phoudoin> BryanV: hey, dual 800 here !
[00:52:52] <scanty> dual 450s in here :)
[00:52:54] <BryanV> dual anything makes a -world- of difference
[00:53:04] <@phoudoin> but, yeah, you're right, that's slow. Too slow.
[00:53:14] <scanty> plus, I have 4MB cache on each CPU here ^_^
[00:53:22] <@Korli> phoudoin create a BFS image on another partition, destroy your BFS partition, create two partitions, reinstall
[00:53:24] <BryanV> scanty - you on your SUN box?
[00:53:35] <scanty> BryanV, yeah :)
[00:53:45] <@phoudoin> indeed. It's dual less slow. At least. :-)
[00:54:44] <@phoudoin> Korli: <sigh>.
[00:54:56] <scanty> I hopped on my x86 today briefly.... I think the IDE controller is busticated.
[00:55:14] <scanty> I'm really considering tossing the thing... it's totally worthless.
[00:55:26] <@phoudoin> But, yeah, that's the solution. Does Zeta Partitionner support resizing BFS partitions?
[00:55:55] <scanty> we need a growBFS :)
[00:56:22] <NathanW> mmm.... dual 2.4
[00:56:41] <NathanW> scanty: dual SPARC?
[00:57:14] * NathanW wants an Alpha
[00:57:34] <@phoudoin> BTW, NathanW: do you saw my post on net team ML?
[00:57:47] <NathanW> athanW>	a couple days ago?
[00:57:52] <scanty> NathanW, yep
[00:59:37] <@phoudoin> yes. I think I've even forward the post to your personal email address too...
[01:00:18] <NathanW> yeah, I got it
[01:00:19] <NathanW> heh
[01:00:31] <NathanW> I'm just putting BeOS back on my one x86 box here
[01:00:45] <@phoudoin> oh, okay then.
[01:01:20] <NathanW> I had to put FreeBSD on it briefly to recover data off a mac
[01:01:37] <scanty> I want to get a SPARC toolchain going
[01:01:39] <scanty> for haiku
[01:01:46] <scanty> we have binutils already, AFAIK
[01:02:37] <@phoudoin> Any news from Axel at PartyZip?!
[01:02:43] <scanty> only difficulty with SPARC is that we don't really have something like VPC or VMWare.
[01:02:45] <@Korli> phoudoin no
[01:02:51] <scanty> so dev will probably be a major pain.
[01:03:18] <scanty> at this point, I'm thinking we can pinch the booloader from NetBSD.
[01:03:50] <NathanW> Why not FreeBSD?
[01:03:53] <@phoudoin> also struct alignment issue can raised on SPARC platform, no?
[01:04:07] <NathanW> NetBSD is good for stealing code from though
[01:04:09] <scanty> NathanW, either or, I suppose.
[01:04:18] <scanty> but I like netBSD better, for some reason.
[01:04:22] <NathanW> It's a nice OS too
[01:04:29] <scanty> phoudoin, yes, there are all sorts of alignment issues to deal with on sparc.
[01:04:32] <@Korli> phoudoin it seems there is a live mp3 stream http://cauterized.net:21000/sala1.mp3
[01:04:35] <NathanW> I have 3 NetBSD machines...
[01:04:44] <scanty> if you try and access unaligned memory, you'll get a trap.
[01:04:53] <@Korli> listen tomorrow 16.00
[01:05:01] <scanty> NathanW, I had NetBSD on here briefly.
[01:05:11] <scanty> but Solaris is really the best for SPARC hardware, IMO
[01:05:18] <scanty> since SunPro is way better than gcc
[01:05:28] <@phoudoin> scanty: that what I remenbered from ages when I coded on SPARC ;-)
[01:05:45] <scanty> phoudoin, hehe I learned the hard way :)
[01:06:01] <NathanW> *anything* is better than gcc
[01:06:12] <scanty> well, on x86 gcc is fairly decent, IMO
[01:06:21] <NathanW> It's free, and it works, but it's (in my experience) always the worst option
[01:06:26] <NathanW> Yeah, I suppose
[01:06:27] <scanty> as far as SPARC goes, it's just recently becoming halfway decent.
[01:06:31] <NathanW> icc is way better though
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[01:06:45] <scanty> back in the day, if you wanted to run Linux on SPARC, you had to compile the kernel with SunPro
[01:07:22] <NathanW> heh
[01:08:09] <scanty> I used to run gentoo here.
[01:08:11] <scanty> it was quite nice.
[01:08:32] <scanty> but it got annoying after a while, having to build everything from source all the time
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[01:09:02] <NathanW> yeah
[01:09:06] <NathanW> try FreeBSD
[01:09:12] <NathanW> just because :)
[01:09:24] <scanty> hehe
[01:09:29] * scanty surfs to freebsd.org
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[01:09:46] <scanty> strangely, I couldn't install freebsd on here.
[01:09:53] <scanty> something funky was up with textmode.
[01:09:55] <NathanW> no 64-bit support?
[01:09:58] <NathanW> huh
[01:09:59] <NathanW> weird
[01:10:06] <NathanW> when did you try?
[01:10:11] <scanty> anty>	a couple months back.
[01:10:31] <NathanW> huh
[01:10:37] <NathanW> There was a release at the end of may
[01:10:53] <scanty> I mean.. it booted fine and everything
[01:11:02] <scanty> but all the text screens were screwy
[01:11:08] <NathanW> weird
[01:11:32] <scanty> yeah... I tried to resist solaris as long as possible
[01:11:42] <scanty> any, OFW text mode is pretty weak
[01:11:45] <scanty> at least on Sun.
[01:11:47] <scanty> it's rather slow.
[01:11:59] <NathanW> yeah
[01:12:07] <NathanW> It is on PPC too
[01:12:19] <NathanW> NetBSD's open firmware text console is unbearable
[01:12:26] <scanty> yes.
[01:12:26] <NathanW> also in 18 point times on my machine
[01:12:33] <scanty> it was horridly slow here.
[01:12:36] <NathanW> which was weird
[01:12:38] <scanty> I'd do an ls...
[01:12:40] <scanty> and it would take a few seconds.
[01:13:04] <scanty> at least with linux it used framebuffer, so text mode was ncie
[01:13:05] <scanty> nice*
[01:13:29] <NathanW> yeah
[01:13:46] <NathanW> FreeBSD-6 comes out in a month or something
[01:13:53] <scanty> cool
[01:14:05] <oco> does someone know where haiku's bootloader sources are in the source tree ? i can't find them
[01:14:22] <NathanW> system/kernel/loader, I think?
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[01:16:29] <scanty> grr Ican't find the SPARC bootloader in FreeBSD either.
[01:16:47] <scanty> wait I lied
[01:16:49] <scanty> here it is :D
[01:18:21] <NathanW> haha
[01:18:29] <NathanW> FreeBSD/ppc now uses a graphical console
[01:18:37] <NathanW> It's possible it does on SPARC now too
[01:18:42] <scanty> nice.
[01:18:46] <scanty> I'll wait till 6 comes out
[01:18:49] <scanty> then I'll check it out again :)
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[01:19:30] <NathanW> heh
[01:25:06] <CIA-6> korli * r13560 /haiku/trunk/src/data/etc/timezones/ (14 files): updated timezone files from ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2005j.tar.gz
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[01:44:40] <mmadia2> think it'd be possible to use beos to dd an image of a haiku partition to a compressed file.    then use linux to extract and dd that file to a blank partition?
[01:45:15] <@Korli> mmadia2 yes
[01:45:15] <NathanW> sure
[01:45:31] <NathanW> you can also just have makehdimage spit out such an image in the first place, of course
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[01:45:56] * mmadia2 has been away for some time  :P
[01:46:20] <NathanW> welcome, mmadia2 :)
[01:47:28] <mmadia2> so, making a linux|bsd|etc.  boot floppy that's capable of creating a BFS partition,  downloading said compressed file, and extracting it while piping it to dd to a raw partition may work as a temporary Haiku installer?
[01:49:09] <mmadia2> and thanks NathanW
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[01:49:41] <CIA-6> korli * r13561 /haiku/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Updated to tzcode2005j.tar.gz
[01:50:04] <@Korli> night
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[01:50:36] <NathanW> yeah, it should
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[01:59:44] <MikeW> What other candidates are there for the logo on the haiku button on the deskbar?
[02:00:16] <mmadia2> what candidates are there now?
[02:00:38] <MikeW> I've only seen the word "haiku" (as was when the name hauku was released) and the blue gradient leaf as seen in some screenshots
[02:00:47] <MikeW> I'm really loving that blue leaf
[02:01:17] * mmadia2 boots his BePC to make a screenshot of his deskbar
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[02:02:36] <mmadia2> ia2>	i ripped the 3 colored squares from some wallpaper and resized them.  it fits with the tasklist compacted to the man-at-chalkboard icon.
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[02:05:53] <agentmumu> mmadia: i'm absolutely for the "word" Haiku in deskbar
[02:06:14] <agentmumu> the leaf which stippi created looks really bad ;)
[02:07:13] <mmadia> do you have a link to it?
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[02:07:46] <agentmumu> mmadia: you can see the leaf here: http://www.schmidp.com/gallery/v/haiku/Tracker.png.html
[02:08:02] <mmadia> ah
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[02:14:51] <scanty> I think we need 12 syllables worth of words in the deskbar :)
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[02:15:10] <scanty> damn, AGG is really sexy
[02:15:54] <mmadia> anyone mind hosting or receiving a DCC of my deskbar?  ( 5k )
[02:16:16] <scanty> I would, but my shell is fairly slow.
[02:16:18] <scanty> these days
[02:18:16] <agentmumu> mmadia: you mean an image?
[02:18:35] <mmadia> heh,  yeah.
[02:18:53] <agentmumu> mmadia: dcc to me and I'll put it online
[02:19:09] * scanty wishes there was VPC for slowlaris
[02:19:26] <agentmumu> scanty: does vmware work on solaris?
[02:19:36] <agentmumu> does solaris have a linux binary emulation?
[02:19:41] <scanty> doubt it... I can check.
[02:19:46] <scanty> we might have LBE.
[02:19:47] <scanty> but I'm not sure.
[02:19:49] <agentmumu> and driver emulation would be needed as well
[02:20:00] <agentmumu> i think freebsd has that
[02:20:19] <scanty> no VMWare for solaris.
[02:20:27] <scanty> apprently just windows an linux from what I can tell.
[02:20:40] <scanty> I suppose I could install WMWare on my SunPCi.
[02:20:52] <scanty> or VPC.
[02:20:54] <scanty> which is better?
[02:21:11] <agentmumu> vmware is a lot faster
[02:21:29] <scanty> cool, I think I'll give it a go.
[02:21:39] <scanty> /opt/SUNWspci/bin/sunpci&
[02:21:41] <scanty> oops.
[02:21:46] <scanty> wrong window.
[02:21:47] <scanty> hehe
[02:22:15] <scanty> I need "focus follows thoughts"
[02:22:26] <agentmumu> scanty: this can be embarassing ;) already happend to when I had sex talk with my girlfriend over the net
[02:22:29] <agentmumu> hehe
[02:22:35] <scanty> LOL
[02:22:53] <scanty> good thing I don't have a girlfriend.
[02:23:00] <scanty> well, it's not really a good thing.
[02:24:22] <agentmumu> hehe, no
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[02:24:54] <scanty> VMWare Workstation is the one I want, right?
[02:24:59] <agentmumu> yes
[02:25:21] <scanty> ugh, I have to register for download it.
[02:25:25] <scanty> I hate when they make you do that.
[02:26:18] <agentmumu> yes, but at least you can register for free trail as often as you want ;)
[02:26:27] <agentmumu> -register
[02:26:29] <agentmumu> +apply
[02:26:32] <agentmumu> with the same login
[02:26:35] <scanty> ah
[02:27:16] <scanty> WTF do they want my phone number for.
[02:27:21] <scanty> damn, they're so invasive.
[02:27:40] <agentmumu> well, they want to do big business :)
[02:28:36] <kma> http://www.schmidp.com/gallery/v/haiku/Tracker.png.html
[02:28:45] <kma> Haiku with tracker??? NICE!!!
[02:28:55] <agentmumu> tracker and deskbar :)
[02:29:01] <kma> YAYYYY!
[02:29:21] <mmadia> agentmumu http://bryan.varnernet.com/files/haiku.deskbar.candidate.1.mmadia.png  and http://bryan.varnernet.com/files/haiku.deskbar.candidate.2.mmadia.png
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[02:31:44] <scanty> bleugh, finally it's downloading.
[02:31:56] <scanty> whereabouts can I get an image for booting>?
[02:32:17] <agentmumu> http://www.schmidp.com/gallery/v/haiku/haiku_deskbar_candidate_2_mmadia.png.html
[02:32:21] <agentmumu> http://www.schmidp.com/gallery/v/haiku/haiku_deskbar_candidate_1_mmadia.png.html
[02:32:37] <agentmumu> scanty: www.schmidp.com/blog/
[02:32:42] <kma> hmm
[02:32:46] <kma> fappage material
[02:33:14] <scanty> damn, I wish XP supported 8bit colour
[02:36:56] <scanty> mmadia, I like your design, but it would be better if you could superimpose some text on top of it that says Haiku, or something like that
[02:37:55] <agentmumu> mmadia: i like yours too
[02:38:03] <agentmumu> at least a lot better than the current leaf
[02:38:13] <scanty> actually, the square would look even better with a 1pixel black border.
[02:38:14] <scanty> IMO
[02:38:18] <BryanV> I'm partial to the leaf.
[02:38:54] <scanty> BryanV, that's because you're a nature loving sissy ^_^
[02:38:57] <mmadia> thanks,  i'm actually figuring out a good shadow border color,  like a darker color for each square.
[02:39:07] <MikeW> 39:07 <MikeW>	3 blocks?
[02:39:09] <scanty> I think black would look the best
[02:39:09] <MikeW> ugh
[02:39:13] <scanty> but it's your call :)
[02:39:19] <agentmumu> I'm either for your mmadias picture or a simple Haiku text
[02:39:30] <MikeW> I don't like those 3 blocks at all
[02:39:39] <MikeW> it doesn't reperesent anything IMO
[02:39:50] <agentmumu> mmadia: they are the haiku colors
[02:39:51] <scanty> sure it does... we're all squares :)
[02:39:57] <BryanV> I think this is a really trivial thing to be arguing about. :-p
[02:40:15] <mmadia> MikeW, the squares are used a lot in some wallpapers that i havent finished.
[02:40:15] <scanty> BryanV, indeed.... BeShare would be a better place for such an argument
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[02:40:36] <agentmumu> why, not, design is very important
[02:40:41] <MikeW> but actual developers use #haiku :P
[02:40:48] <MikeW> I perfer the leaf
[02:40:58] <scanty> yes, and in here we don't argue about stupid things like on BeShare ^_^
[02:41:00] <agentmumu> MikeW: the leaf looks very cheap
[02:41:14] <mmadia> scanty at least it's Haiku related :P
[02:41:18] <scanty> hehe
[02:41:22] <BryanV> Oh yeah, but those bloks, damn that's swank.
[02:41:23] <BryanV> whatever.
[02:41:40] <BryanV> if you don't like, fork it. :-p
[02:41:40] <scanty> who says we should have only *one* log
[02:41:41] <scanty> logo*
[02:41:51] <MikeW> how are the blocks swank. Its just 3 coloured blocks
[02:41:51] <scanty> hmm
[02:41:59] <MikeW> *squares
[02:41:59] <scanty> "Could not open file haiku.vmdk"
[02:42:04] <scanty> Unknown file format?
[02:42:13] <BryanV> MikeW - That was meant to be read with dripping sarcasim.
[02:42:45] <MikeW> BryanV: oh :)
[02:42:46] <scanty> am I doing something wrong, or what?
[02:42:55] <agentmumu> scanty: you have to create a new virtual machine and use haiku.vmdk as a virtual harddisk
[02:42:59] <scanty> oh
[02:43:21] <scanty> do I want "Typical" or "Custom"
[02:43:32] <scanty> (sorry I've never used this before, so I'm pretty clueless)
[02:44:10] <agentmumu> custom
[02:46:29] <agentmumu> vmdk = Virtual Machine DisK (at least I guess so)
[02:46:32] <scanty> ok, it's creating a disk
[02:46:44] <agentmumu> you have to select "use existing virtual disk"
[02:46:47] <scanty> oh
[02:46:49] <scanty> shit
[02:46:52] <agentmumu> hehe
[02:47:02] <agentmumu> ur just go to settings after you've created the virtual machine
[02:47:09] <agentmumu> delete to current virtual harddisk
[02:47:13] <agentmumu> and add the haiku one
[02:47:54] <scanty> ok...
[02:47:56] <scanty> here we go...
[02:48:31] <agentmumu> does it work on solaris now?
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[02:48:56] <scanty> well, it's windows running in hardware on top of solaris
[02:49:19] <scanty> damn.
[02:49:23] <scanty> it killed windows!
[02:49:34] <agentmumu> lol
[02:49:49] * scanty boots windows again.
[02:50:28] <scanty> maybe I should have chose SCSI and not IDE
[02:50:53] <agentmumu> in vmware?
[02:51:01] <scanty> yeah.
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[02:51:11] <scanty> I don't have IDE on this machine
[02:51:13] <scanty> SCSI only
[02:51:37] <agentmumu> but vmware does emulate ide or scsi so it shouldn't matter
[02:51:48] <scanty> oh
[02:51:54] <scanty> then maybe I picked the wrong SCSI
[02:52:00] <scanty> BusLogic, instead of LSI
[02:52:04] <scanty> I think this is LSI
[02:52:33] <agentmumu> you can select the bus when using haiku.vmdk?
[02:52:54] <scanty> I think so.
[02:53:36] <agentmumu> i think you do something wrong
[02:53:45] <agentmumu> because vmware doesn't ask me for a bus
[02:53:54] <agentmumu> you have to use "existing virtual drive"
[02:53:56] <agentmumu> or disk
[02:53:56] <scanty> ok, let me re-set up the virtual machine.
[02:55:02] <scanty> right before it asks me to Select a disk
[02:55:07] <scanty> it asks me to choose a SCSI bus
[02:55:22] <agentmumu> wait a moment
[02:56:03] <agentmumu> ah I see
[02:56:11] <agentmumu> just use the one which is selected
[02:56:13] <scanty> grr it killed windows again
[02:56:16] <agentmumu> I think it doesn't get used anyway
[02:56:18] <scanty> I guess I will try VPC
[02:56:48] <scanty> maybe I will have better luck with that.
[03:02:23] <scanty> since when does M$ publish Virtual PC?
[03:03:19] <agentmumu> i think they bought it 2 years ago
[03:03:20] <agentmumu> or 1
[03:03:23] <scanty> oh wow
[03:03:27] <scanty> I've been out of the loop ^_^
[03:06:07] <scanty> grr this takes forever to install (VPC)
[03:09:15] <scanty> ok.. here we go again.
[03:09:18] * scanty hopes this works!
[03:11:05] <scanty> guess I'll let this sit for a while.
[03:11:12] <scanty> it's either frozen, or just really slow.'
[03:13:13] <agentmumu> scanty: you are now booting haiku in vmware on windows on solaris?
[03:13:18] <scanty> yes.
[03:13:18] <scanty> trying VPC now.
[03:13:18] <scanty> VMWare kept killing windows.
[03:13:20] <agentmumu> hehe, this is has to be slow :)
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[03:31:30] <agentmumu> slaad: don't you think it looks cheap?
[03:31:31] <slaad> What?
[03:31:31] <agentmumu> the leaf
[03:31:32] <scanty|x86> heh
[03:31:33] <slaad> Oh, not the one waaay back there.
[03:31:34] <agentmumu> I think the logo should be simple, incorporate the 3 haiku colors and have Haiku as text in it
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[03:32:15] <slaad> http://haiku-os.org/images/logo.gif <-- That
[03:32:15] <scanty|x86> I don't see why we can't have a few logos.
[03:32:28] <slaad> Althought I'm not sure how well that'd scale down.
[03:33:06] <agentmumu> slaad: yes, this one would be perfect
[03:33:22] <slaad> If it doesn't, maybe just the three leaves at those angles but next to each other and without the text.
[03:33:28] <slaad> (Or even where they are, without the text)
[03:33:42] <scanty|x86> I think a logo is the least of our worries, personally.
[03:33:48] <slaad> I don't!
[03:33:53] <agentmumu> slaad: i really think there should be haiku as text
[03:34:00] <slaad> It may not fit.
[03:34:05] <slaad> Or look good.
[03:34:15] <mmadia> that logo fits well when deskbar's tasklisting is expanded  but it doesn't fit when the man-at-chalkboard icon is visible.
[03:34:18] <slaad> Where as the leaves are still identifiable as Haiku but would still look good
[03:34:31] <scanty|x86> i like mmadias squares.
[03:34:34] <slaad> Yeah, so for the compact view just use the leaves?
[03:34:36] <agentmumu> scanty|x86: a nice logo is very important, also for project members
[03:34:48] <agentmumu> developers have to identify them selfs with their project
[03:34:58] <agentmumu> and everyone likes nice designs
[03:34:59] <scanty|x86> yes, it is important.... but there are other things that are more important :)
[03:35:05] <scanty|x86> I don't see why we can't have a few logos.
[03:35:11] <scanty|x86> and then we can just pick which one we want.
[03:35:18] <slaad> For the same reason skinning is bad? :)
[03:35:18] <scanty|x86> i.e. have them all available to the user
[03:35:28] <agentmumu> slaad: i agree
[03:35:37] <agentmumu> and there still has to be a default one
[03:35:37] <agentmumu> :)
[03:35:55] <slaad> I'd not have more than one, personally. It's important to have a brand identity.
[03:36:12] <mmadia> slaad what about the 3 vertical squares followed by "HAIKU"
[03:36:13] <agentmumu> slaad: exactly
[03:36:17] <slaad> Also, even something as small as a different icon there could confuse the heck out of a newbie sitting down at a friend's computer.
[03:36:28] <scanty|x86> well, they can all be similar.
[03:36:31] <scanty|x86> and then it's not a problem.
[03:36:36] <scanty|x86> i.e. have the same colour scheme on all.
[03:36:54] <slaad> Look at any big company, scanty|x86. How many of them have "similiar" designs for their logos? :)
[03:37:09] <slaad> The thing with the squares is, apart from the colour, I don't see the association to Haiku.
[03:37:11] <scanty|x86> bah, we're not big
[03:37:11] <agentmumu> scanty|x86: but having more than one logo is really an overkill and would require to code this functionality
[03:37:14] <scanty|x86> and we're not a company.
[03:37:38] <slaad> That wasn't my point, scanty|x86.
[03:37:49] <slaad> My point was that you need brand identity.
[03:37:51] <agentmumu> design was always important on beos
[03:37:54] <scanty|x86> whatever, it's senseless to argue about this.
[03:37:55] <agentmumu> so was usability
[03:37:56] <scanty|x86> IMO.
[03:38:05] <slaad> Big companies have lots of money to pay fancy people who know about this sort of thing. So they're probably on to something.
[03:38:20] <scanty|x86> whatever they pick is fine with me....
[03:38:32] <scanty|x86> anty|x86>	a logo won't make me use, or not use an OS.
[03:38:45] <scanty|x86> Be had a  few logos anyway
[03:39:18] <slaad> They were for different backgrounds. And depending on what they were promoting (The company, the OS, or the abilities of the OS)
[03:39:51] <agentmumu> how about a haiku deskbar logo contest? :)
[03:40:03] <scanty|x86> weee I see the haiku logo
[03:40:08] <agentmumu> the winner gets a haiku iso for free
[03:40:10] <agentmumu> scanty|x86: great :)
[03:40:19] <scanty|x86> does it take a while to boot after that
[03:40:51] <agentmumu> yes, about minute
[03:40:59] <scanty|x86> ok I'll let it sit
[03:41:03] <scanty|x86> and see what happens :^)
[03:41:05] <scanty|x86> I hope it works!
[03:41:16] <agentmumu> scanty|x86: but again you can follow the progress if you create a serial port and output its content to a file
[03:42:10] <scanty|x86> how do I do that
[03:42:12] <scanty|x86> in VMWare
[03:42:18] <scanty|x86> (it still at the bootscreen)
[03:42:29] <agentmumu> vm settings
[03:42:29] <agentmumu> add
[03:42:32] <agentmumu> serial port
[03:42:34] <agentmumu> output to file
[03:42:42] <agentmumu> start vm
[03:43:00] <scanty|x86> ok, I will try that
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[03:45:27] <scanty|x86> too bad there's no tail on windows
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[03:45:43] <scanty|x86> oh shit
[03:45:45] <scanty|x86> it's working@
[03:48:31] <scanty|x86> very cool :)
[03:49:27] <@geist> the other thing you can do is direct the serial port to a named pipe
[03:49:39] <@geist> and there are a few little utility apps that convert that to a tcp socket
[03:49:44] <scanty|x86> ah
[03:49:44] <@geist> which lets you interact with it
[03:50:12] <scanty|x86> cool
[03:50:18] <scanty|x86> is the Deskbar in this image or not?
[03:50:21] <scanty|x86> I know I have to start it myself.
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[03:52:10] <scanty|x86> either way, I'm thorougly impressed
[03:52:13] <scanty|x86> great job guys.
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[03:52:22] <scanty|x86> hopefully I'll be able to contribute some code myself :)
[03:52:54] * scanty|x86 wonders if his NES emulator will work under Haiku's game kit yet...
[03:53:06] <slaad> I already have. kprintf("slaad was 'ere.\n");
[03:53:28] <scanty|x86> hehe
[03:56:27] <MikeW> how long does it take haiku to bootup to the desktop?
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[03:56:58] <scanty|x86> less than half a minute
[03:56:58] <scanty|x86> easily
[03:57:51] <scanty|x86> sometimes it doesn't boot though.
[03:57:56] <scanty|x86> seems pretty intermittent ATM
[04:00:21] <scanty|x86> very nice, though.... really.
[04:01:38] * scanty|x86 wonders what he can work on.
[04:06:56] <scanty|x86> ok going back on my Ultra60
[04:06:57] <scanty|x86> brb\
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[04:08:13] <agentmumu> wah, I'm ultra angry now
[04:08:25] <agentmumu> this fucking damn evolution won't send any emails
[04:08:32] <agentmumu> "can't connect to smtp server"
[04:08:39] <agentmumu> but every other client can do
[04:09:05] <agentmumu> and my girlfriend is talking about nonsense all the time next to me
[04:09:11] <agentmumu> night ;)
[04:09:13] <slaad> Sucks to be using crappy mail clients.
[04:09:16] * slaad pets MDR
[04:09:21] <NathanW> haha
[04:09:23] <NathanW> true :)
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[04:14:41] <Bryan_w> Bryan!
[04:18:00] <BryanV> Bryan_w!
[04:18:32] <BryanV> Soo odd that there's two people that spell their name "Bryan" in #haiku.
[04:18:56] <BryanV> Brian I'd almost expect. But Bryan is rare around here.
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[04:19:41] <slaad> Bryan is the Illiterati method of spelling ;)
[04:20:25] <BryanV> Don't you mean Illyterati method? :-p
[04:20:31] * slaad grins
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[04:34:17] <NathanW> heh
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[04:51:15] <mmadia> agentmumu http://bryan.varnernet.com/files/haiku.deskbar.candidate.6.mmadia.png  ;)
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[04:57:59] <scanty> well, that took a little longer than I'd planned.
[05:01:40] <petterhj> what about THE haiku logo? :)
[05:02:14] <mmadia> it doesn't look nice when deskbar is compacted.    btw, hi petterhj  :)
[05:02:25] <slaad> I already suggested that, petterhj.
[05:02:30] <slaad> They told me I'm an idiot :~(
[05:02:35] <slaad> And then I cried and ran home.
[05:02:38] <NathanW> aw
[05:02:40] <NathanW> so sad
[05:02:42] <slaad> * Actual events may vary
[05:02:45] <slaad> Like an orange!
[05:06:30] <mmadia> http://bebits.com/app/3902 is a hack to get THE haiku logo as a deskbar icon too.
[05:09:07] <petterhj> mmadia, hi :)
[05:09:19] <petterhj> hehe
[05:10:31] <petterhj> that wasnt too pretty, but with some work I think it looks nice.. it need to be downsized a bit
[05:10:44] <petterhj> and does not work when deskbar is docked as windows'
[05:10:55] <petterhj> or compact yes
[05:11:40] <petterhj> but what if we compact the logo to the size of the BeOS logo that R5 have? then it would at least work!
[05:13:36] <mmadia> 47x20 is R5's deskbar icon size,   56 is about as wide as it can be and still work in the compact or windows-docked mode.
[05:14:16] <petterhj> ok, will the Haiku logo at that size be too small?
[05:14:34] <mmadia> ia>	i cant recall what size that bebits program uses for the haiku logo.   from my attempts, yes.
[05:15:14] <petterhj> mmadia, that one filled the whole thing when in normal mode, and thus not work in compact
[05:15:24] <mmadia> especially with a low-quality starting image, ie the logo most commonly available.    a higher resolution image may work better though.
[05:15:41] <petterhj> yea
[05:15:54] <petterhj> now I have to give this a shot myself :)
[05:15:55] <mmadia> right.  i just don't know the exact dimensions of that image :)
[05:20:10] <petterhj> I have the one we should use now!
[05:20:11] <petterhj> :)
[05:21:22] <mmadia> care to share?
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[05:23:52] <petterhj> sure.. wait a sec
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[05:26:14] <petterhj> mmadia: http://beos.petterhj.net/mockups/haiku-deskbar-logo.png
[05:26:45] <petterhj> the picture could probably be of better quality.. i took this one from my wallpaper and resized it :)
[05:27:03] <mmadia> wanna try it at 56pixels wide? i'm 99% sure that's the widest it could be.
[05:27:23] <petterhj> thats 50 i think..
[05:27:26] <scanty> looks good, but the white against the grey kills it.
[05:27:33] <scanty> try a 1pixel border around the white.
[05:27:40] <scanty> dark grey, maybe black even
[05:28:14] <scanty> but then, I'm no artist.
[05:28:27] <petterhj> yea.. theres room for improvements and other versions here.. but this is something I would like at least..
[05:28:29] <petterhj> me neither :)
[05:28:35] <scanty> also, the letter 'I' is too thin.
[05:28:38] <scanty> but looks nice otherwise ;)
[05:29:22] <petterhj> yea, thats because of bad resizing.. we need a good quality logo to start with
[05:29:51] <scanty> ah
[05:30:01] <scanty> maybe do it in vector graphics.
[05:30:06] <scanty> or something
[05:30:07] <scanty> I dunno
[05:30:43] <petterhj> yea, that would probably be the best solution
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[05:42:24] <petterhj> mmadia, scanty; new versions..
[05:44:50] <scanty> same URL?
[05:44:56] <petterhj> yea
[05:45:42] <scanty> I think it looks much better with that border.
[05:45:58] * mmadia nods in agreeance
[05:46:02] <slaad> It'd be better if it were transparent.
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[05:46:46] <dabeej> http://www.tuxx-home.at/archives/2005/06/27/T11_43_52/
[05:47:32] <petterhj> slaad, maybe a transparent version would be nice.. I was just thinking something along the lines of the R5 logo
[05:51:02] <slaad> I cannae DCC, mmadia
[05:51:16] <scanty> oh no, a scottishism.
[05:51:19] <scanty> ^^
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[06:10:04] <mmadia> yo slaad  here's a transparent logo for you:  http://beos.petterhj.net/mockups/haiku.deskbar.candidate.7.mmadia.png
[06:10:19] <slaad> Looks pretty good.
[06:10:32] <slaad> I think you might need to contact the original artist and ask for a small version that isn't just a scaled version.
[06:10:46] <mmadia> who is the original artist?
[06:11:17] <slaad> I don't know.... I don't pay much attention to you open source hippies. ;)
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[06:22:57] <slaad> Anyone here played with outgoing filters and MDR?
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[06:50:43] <Pascal> Good morning. Has someone experiences with Zeta R1 and driver installation under ~/config/settings/kernel/drivers/...?
[06:51:13] <Pascal> It's not working like it used to be under Neo or BeOS
[06:53:40] <slaad> Drivers don't go there.
[06:55:15] <Pascal> Well, they did!
[06:55:43] <Pascal> i created a bin directory with a symlink to the driver
[06:56:09] <slaad> The drivers themself have never gone there. That's where the settings for the drivers would go.
[06:56:12] <Pascal> and a bin/dvb directory with the symlink to the driver
[06:56:31] <slaad> The actual driver would live under ~/config/add-ons/kernel
[06:56:40] <slaad> (For a user-specific kernel driver)
[06:57:53] <Pascal> well, could it be that i'am a little confused this morning ;-)
[06:58:00] <slaad> Yup :P
[06:58:38] <Pascal> your path makes more sense! I will try that again. Thanks slaad.
[07:00:21] <slaad> Neener, neener, neener.
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[07:39:56] <[Beta]> wow, Haiku developers called `lazy`.
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[15:25:04] <TheGreatDane> tic
[15:25:29] <TheGreatDane> Geez...people log in, log out, nobody talks in here these days!  :-)
[15:32:35] <tqh> it's to hot to talk :)
[15:34:19] <Konrad77> tqh hehe, true
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[15:37:54] <TheGreatDane> Konrad77 So you guys are cookin' over in Sweden today, eh?
[15:38:18] <Konrad77> Its been too hot for too long right now
[15:38:35] <Konrad77> I almost look alive now, when I catched some sun
[15:38:42] <TheGreatDane> hehe
[15:38:48] <TheGreatDane> Don't catch too much of it!
[15:39:53] <Konrad77> Hehe
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[15:47:21] <SiCuTDeUx> Good Morning!
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[16:19:51] <TheGreatDane> atomzero
[16:19:59] <atomozero> si?
[16:20:13] <TheGreatDane> hi there...why does that sound so familiar?  Atomic Zero?
[16:20:28] <TheGreatDane> I think I remember something on an old "Audio Buzz" show about Atomic Zero.
[16:20:37] <atomozero> ahah :)
[16:20:55] <TheGreatDane> remind me... !
[16:21:11] <TheGreatDane> or are you the same guy?
[16:21:30] <atomozero> no i am not Atomic Zero
[16:21:40] <TheGreatDane> ok sorry  :-)
[16:22:06] <atomozero> no problem :)
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[16:32:46] <__nitro__> hi people
[16:33:07] <atomozero> __nitro__ prooot!
[16:33:17] <__nitro__> que pasa atomozero? :D
[16:33:24] <atomozero> va tutto ok!!!
[16:33:29] <atomozero> va todos ok!
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[16:40:55] <Dr_Evil> hello mmu_man! I just got home from work :((
[16:42:30] <@mmu_man> just got work from home :^)
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[17:24:41] <scanty> you work on saturday?
[17:25:20] <@mmu_man> you don't ?
[17:25:32] <scanty> well, i just lost my job.
[17:25:34] <scanty> but I didn't.
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[17:28:21] <LaesQ> anyone here know about parallel port programming in zeta?
[17:29:30] <@mmu_man> yep ?
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[17:44:50] <LaesQ> you do know?
[17:45:08] <LaesQ> I'm having problems making reads or writes to it
[17:45:33] <LaesQ> I'm trying to port a very small piece of linux code I wrote to zeta
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[17:48:45] <NathanW> Does anyone have the BONE openssh mmu_man made?
[17:49:06] <@mmu_man> beshare ?
[17:49:14] <NathanW> not there
[17:49:20] <@mmu_man> connecting...
[17:49:27] <NathanW> thanks :)
[17:49:35] <LaesQ> so am I lost then for suggestions on parallel port stuff?
[17:49:46] <LaesQ> I've looked at other code on bebits
[17:49:56] <NathanW> what do you want to do?
[17:50:08] <LaesQ> just read and write to the parallel port
[17:50:16] <LaesQ> but my code won't even compile
[17:50:29] <NathanW> cat blah > /dev/blah?
[17:50:42] <LaesQ> ugh?
[17:50:46] <LaesQ> I'm new to zeta
[17:50:56] <LaesQ> I'm a linux person myself
[17:51:02] <LaesQ> but a friend has got me into zeta
[17:51:05] <NathanW> I'm just saying
[17:51:06] <LaesQ> it's very nice
[17:51:12] <NathanW> you can read and write from /dev/parallel
[17:51:34] <LaesQ> will that read/write to the parallel port?
[17:51:44] <LaesQ> I read some code using /dev/parallel/parallel1
[17:51:51] <Dr_Evil> LaesQ if you code doen't compile, you do NOT need someone who knows parallel port programming
[17:51:53] <LaesQ> but dunno if that's for beos
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[17:53:07] <LaesQ> Dr_Evil: are you volunteering to decypher the gcc output?
[17:54:04] <@mmu_man> LaesQ paste it in ##paste
[17:54:05] <Dr_Evil> no
[17:54:34] <LaesQ> k 2 secs
[17:58:16] <@mmu_man> hehe
[17:58:25] <@mmu_man> hey Dr_Evil don't escape
[18:02:47] * Dr_Evil wants to spend the next 3 hours doing something else
[18:05:16] <LaesQ> am I a lost cause then>
[18:05:17] <LaesQ> ?
[18:05:27] <NathanW> mmu_man is very helpful :P
[18:06:00] <LaesQ> mmu_man, this code is a one off for a friend
[18:06:13] <LaesQ> I don't plan to make a huge program from it
[18:06:18] <LaesQ> it just needs to do what I need
[18:06:21] <LaesQ> clean or dirty
[18:06:43] <@mmu_man> well, you should be either using the dongle device or writing a custom driver
[18:07:07] <LaesQ> hmm
[18:07:13] <LaesQ> you got me thinking a mo
[18:07:18] <@mmu_man> but I guess you won't so
[18:07:30] <@mmu_man> http://wiki.bebits.com/page/UndocumentedSyscalls
[18:08:22] <@mmu_man> those are *not* to be used in apps because they probbly won't work in the future
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[18:08:29] <@mmu_man> and not supported in haiku
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[18:12:00] <LaesQ> mnay thanks dude
[18:12:10] <LaesQ> I'm gonna play with aliens parallel port driver
[18:12:14] <LaesQ> see what I can do with that
[18:12:17] <LaesQ> cheers
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[18:13:14] <Dr_Evil> puhh
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[18:31:16] <sys2> http://www.bug-nordic.org/imgs/haiku/Deskbar3.png?PHPSESSID=36b4fa811e7684c3a897fdd069b3a1b1 <-- saw that and was very pleased :>
[18:33:32] <ChrisK077> Not to mention that Haiku has gotten a lot more stable through the last week or so
[18:39:57] <ChrisK077> A detail that just now got my attention in that screenshot is the font kerning (e.g. look at the "Tr" in the word Tracker that appears in deskbar and compare it with R5's, for example). Very nice.
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[19:07:31] <sys2> so haiku is steadily going into a usable state :>
[19:07:38] <sys2> hows networking, sound etc .. working? :P
[19:07:48] <sys2> net ive seen .. but hear some issues with select? :>
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[19:34:58] <dabeej> from what i was told
[19:35:07] <dabeej> it's almost in a usable state, not yet
[19:38:42] <pres589> I installed it on my XBox and it controls my toaster oven and electric toilet flusher
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[20:01:13] <BetaMax> hi
[20:01:19] <BetaMax> Axel are you there?
[20:02:09] <@mmu_man> /ns info axeld
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[20:03:26] <BetaMax> oh
[20:05:51] <BetaMax> I would like to know if the conference in Spain is already began?
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[20:30:15] <lizdeika> watching at those Deskbar screenshots makes me cry
[20:31:44] <MikeW> why?
[20:32:23] <lizdeika> izdeika>	i am happy
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[21:20:38] <@Dr_Evil_> hey NathanW or geist, perhaps you know this. Can the node monitor be used to detect dynamic loading of drivers, like for USB DVB cards?
[21:20:59] <@Dr_Evil_> for monitoring /dev/dvb
[21:26:15] <@Dr_Evil_> anyone?
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[21:36:35] <fyysik> Dr_Evil_ - is BSoundPlayer code "freezed"? Or there are some changes planned?
[21:36:55] <@Dr_Evil_> no changes planned right now
[21:37:04] <@Dr_Evil_> pretty frozen
[21:37:49] <@Dr_Evil_> are you using it?
[21:38:18] <fyysik> i'm thinking about returning to VLC SurroundSound coding, Dr_Evil_
[21:38:29] <fyysik> which uses BSoundPlayer, as you remember
[21:39:23] <fyysik> thus same question about MediaNode code/interface
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[21:39:32] <@Dr_Evil_> yes, the question is, are you using the current version?
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[21:40:13] <fyysik> no, i tried updated version 4 months ago, but didn't work. And as i departed in USA, i hadn't time to investigate the reason
[21:41:13] <fyysik> so wondering if there is sense to spend time with current code, or wait a bit
[21:41:33] <@Dr_Evil_> well, I did a clean up, but that was some time ago
[21:42:10] <@Dr_Evil_> oh well, that was 8 months ago
[21:42:18] <fyysik> ok, good to know...will install R5 netserver again
[21:43:17] <fyysik> ilorvi_ - are you alive?
[21:44:07] <agentmumu> /win 2
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[22:00:11] <sys2> does sound work under haiku ? :>
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[22:02:57] <agentmumu> sys2: not over here
[22:03:08] <sys2> k
[22:03:09] <@Dr_Evil_> hi stippi!!!
[22:10:43] <MikeW> Hmm, time to buy a new soundcard (last one I bought from dabs hung my machine)
[22:10:57] <MikeW> SoundBlaster Live 24bit PCI is pretty standard, right?
[22:14:31] <brennanOS> sure
[22:14:47] <brennanOS> Ive have a SoundBlaster Live Value
[22:14:52] <brennanOS> works fine
[22:18:15] <MikeW> the only ones I see are the 16 and 32bit on the hardware matrix
[22:18:46] <brennanOS> hm
[22:18:54] <brennanOS> What is the Live?
[22:18:56] <brennanOS> 16?
[22:19:00] <brennanOS> I mean Value
[22:19:16] <brennanOS> solder on 12 more bits
[22:19:20] <brennanOS> ;)
[22:23:37] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13563 /haiku/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
[22:23:37] <CIA-6> Added a "confirm" parameter to BRoster::Shutdown() which causes the registrar
[22:23:37] <CIA-6> to ask the user to confirm shutting down the system.
[22:26:23] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13564 /haiku/trunk/src/servers/registrar/ (ShutdownProcess.cpp ShutdownProcess.h):
[22:26:24] <CIA-6> * Implemented the BRoster::Shutdown() confirmation feature.
[22:26:24] <CIA-6> * When an application aborts the shutdown process by refusing to quit, the
[22:26:24] <CIA-6> shutdown window says so for 3 seconds before closing.
[22:26:24] <CIA-6> * Fixed the height of the normal buttons in the shutdown window. They
[22:26:24] <CIA-6> accidentially got the size of a default button.
[22:27:50] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13565 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/Window.cpp: BWindow::SetDefaultButton() crashed when setting another default button.
[22:28:10] <CIA-6> bonefish * r13566 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/interface/Button.cpp: Be on the safe side.
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[22:46:32] <Sil2100> Hi
[22:46:38] <[Beta]> lo
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[22:50:51] <CIA-6> axeld * r13567 /haiku/trunk/src/apps/abouthaiku/ (AboutHaiku.cpp AboutHaiku.rdef):
[22:50:51] <CIA-6> Now has real app version information.
[22:50:51] <CIA-6> "labelHeight" was not the actual label height, just the font height; as a
[22:50:51] <CIA-6> result, it could overwrite the label (and did so with "Time Running:").
[22:50:51] <CIA-6> Now uses find_directory() to locate the system lib directory.
[22:50:52] <CIA-6> Does not use version_info::short_info if it's empty.
[22:52:08] <CIA-6> axeld * r13568 /haiku/trunk/src/kits/ (Jamfile libbe_version.rdef):
[22:52:08] <CIA-6> The version information is now actually set: apparently, AddResources must
[22:52:08] <CIA-6> appear before the SharedLibrary rule for some reason.
[23:01:31] <CIA-6> axeld * r13569 /haiku/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
[23:01:31] <CIA-6> Moved the CPU speed "clearing" function from Pulse to cpu_type.h header.
[23:01:31] <CIA-6> It's now also used by AboutHaiku.
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[23:06:12] <McCall> Hey hey hey!
[23:06:36] * McCall is in a LOT of pain!
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[23:06:48] <McCall> hey phoudoin!
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[23:06:57] <phoudoin> hey guys
[23:07:06] * McCall is also drugged up to his eyeballs on diazapan...
[23:08:31] <@Dr_Evil_> McCall why?
[23:09:03] <McCall> I go mountain biking, and my girlfriend said she fancied coming with me one time, so we went to a bike shop and I bought her a new bike.
[23:09:29] <McCall> I was really excited driving home, we had a great plan to go riding down the country lanes in the beautiful sun.
[23:10:01] <McCall> I was making her bike, and I bent down to pick up the type, (which isn't heavy at all!) and just felt something go in my back!
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[23:10:18] <McCall> I was in agony, managed to get to a bed before nearly passing out :(
[23:10:22] <McCall> and ruined the day :(
[23:10:44] <phoudoin> what's goes in your back?
[23:11:37] <McCall> its either a disc thats popped out and in, or just generally moved around, or I pulled a muscle.
[23:12:11] <phoudoin> both sounds hurtfull :-(
[23:12:14] <McCall> went to the hospital and got some diazapan and some painkillers.  Still in pain though...
[23:13:38] <McCall> I think NathanW has made a powerpc-haiku elf cross compiler.
[23:13:50] <McCall> and altered the build chain to build haiku.
[23:14:14] <McCall> said there were 14 jam rule changes, and there are quite a few places where x86 is hardcoded.
[23:14:16] <[Beta]> ouch Andrew :/
[23:14:27] <McCall> [Beta]: yeah :(
[23:14:44] <[Beta]> glad to see you're still pulling in time with Haiku :>
[23:14:45] <McCall> my girlfriend looks so hot in short-shorts and a tight cycle top too :(
[23:14:56] <[Beta]> McCall: send a pic?
[23:14:59] <McCall> I was hoping to ride behind her :_
[23:15:01] <McCall> :)
[23:15:26] <[Beta]> any news back from partyzip ?
[23:17:14] <phoudoin> well, axel seems back at coding ;-)
[23:18:32] <McCall> can someone do me a favor please?
[23:18:34] <phoudoin> I guess he'll fixed the most annoying issues raised during his presentation...
[23:18:59] <[Beta]> McCall: which is ?
[23:19:16] <McCall> Can someone make a nice screenshot wtih Haiku&Tracker&Deskbar with Pulse, terminal etc. and the about window, and scroll down to the bit where it says my name?
[23:19:23] <McCall> I want to put it in my blog :)
[23:19:34] <brennanOS> anybody have any good movie recommendations?
[23:19:41] <[Beta]> bah, I need to do something to get my name there..
[23:19:44] <McCall> War of the Worlds.
[23:20:02] <brennanOS> no, no... *good* movies
[23:20:06] <[Beta]> brennanOS: kung fu hustle is watchable.
[23:20:14] <[Beta]> matrix? :p
[23:20:29] <McCall> [Beta]: I did a bit at the start, 60% of the pref apps were started by me (and no doubt totally re-written by people who can code!) and I did a few kernel and jam commits.
[23:20:31] <[Beta]> gladiator is in my top 10
[23:20:45] <brennanOS> Gladiator is pretty good
[23:21:19] <phoudoin> McCall: I wanted to make ABoutHaiku a resizable window, btw.
[23:21:41] <McCall> no issue with that, but why?
[23:21:42] <[Beta]> If I cant help a bit on the net team over summer, i'll look at a new kit that beos lacked.
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[23:22:15] <[Beta]> phoudoin: so, when is this closed source easter egg going to be added to abouthaiku? ;)
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[23:22:26] <McCall> sex_server - automatically does live queries on skin sites so you can navigate then in the file system.
[23:22:33] <phoudoin> because I don't like static size windows?!
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[23:22:37] <McCall> :)
[23:23:11] <McCall> phoudoin: some are OK static, like screens that show when programs load.
[23:23:14] <[Beta]> lol, no, and mmu_man already has that one covered :p
[23:23:23] <phoudoin> [Beta]: easter egg? Which easter egg? ;-)
[23:24:08] <[Beta]> if it's a window with scrolling content (less than 100% shown), it has to be resizable (thats my feeling)
[23:24:40] <[Beta]> phoudoin: someone should make a win95 style pisstake credit screen :p
[23:24:44] <[Beta]> *balks
[23:25:30] <McCall> no, you should have an option hidden away to "Upgrade to Windows XP".
[23:26:00] <McCall> yeah, when you put a WindowsXP CD in, Haiku detects it and asks if you want to upgrade, then tells you you can't.
[23:27:05] <phoudoin> "To finish reading Haiku credits, you should now restart your computer".
[23:27:49] <McCall> :)
[23:28:12] <McCall> ok, think I am going to have to go to bed now.  in too much pain :(
[23:28:13] <McCall> later.
[23:28:16] <[Beta]> nn
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